‘Sexual cleansing’ in Iraq.
By on Apr 16th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
‘Sexual cleansing’ in Iraq.
“In the past three months, more than 30 gays have been executed in Baghdad. The bodies have been found tortured, mutilated – sometimes with signs of rape,” said Mustafa Salim, spokesman for the Rainbow for Life Organisation (RLO), a Baghdad-based gay rights NGO. “Notes were found near some of the bodies with messages saying that this is going to be the fate for any Muslim who denies the Islamic religion,” Salim added.
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sometimes with signs of rape…
Typical.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:40 pmReligion of peace?
April 16th, 2007 at 1:40 pmThis is a positive sign as far as I’m concerned of the progress made in Iraq.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:41 pmAnd I’m sure the Bush administration will speak out forcefully about this.
(Of course, that requires that the American MSM report this story, but there’s no reason to imagine they’d disregard this story, is there?)
April 16th, 2007 at 1:43 pmDemocracy can be messy.
How do they know they’re gay? Pink Korans?
And this I find VERY interesting, the dead gays were “…sometimes with signs of rape”. RAPE? The men killing them for being gay had sex with them?! Am I missing something here?
April 16th, 2007 at 1:43 pmToo bad Marvin Gaye has shuffled off this mortal coil – - just when we need some Sexual Healing.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:43 pmI don’t even have the words….
April 16th, 2007 at 1:43 pmYes, yes: Good news for ‘neo-consevatives’, bad news for anyone with human dignity.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:44 pmFor the record, I am NOT in favor of homosexuals being executed for their sexual orientation.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:45 pm#5…sodomizing the enemy, dead or alive, is an ancient gesture of contempt. And spare us the “democracy can be messy” and “Pink Koran” shit.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:47 pmFor the record, I am NOT in favor of homosexuals being executed for their sexual orientation. Comment by Jake — April 16, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Just tortured, and killed by your fellow rednecks when no one is looking. Right Jake*SS. You know, it’s a proven FACT that men like yourself that are as homophobic as you are, are typically Gay. You realize that don’t you SON? Of course you don’t, you’re an ignorant little child, that’s proud of his politics being to the RIGHT of David Duke’s!
April 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmHmmm! I may have to change my mind on Theocracies.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:50 pmLOL — my being homosexual sure would be a surprise to the wife — for the record, of course, I have been heterosexual my entire 75 years.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:53 pmFor the record, I am NOT in favor of homosexuals being executed for their sexual orientation.
Comment by Jake — April 16, 2007 @ 1:45 pm
Interesting that jake would feel compelled to set the record straight on this issue. it’s almost as if the political line he toes would typicallyendorse stuff like this. (See #3 firehead).
April 16th, 2007 at 1:54 pm#13…Typical comment from the closet. I’m sure she knew it all along.
April 16th, 2007 at 1:56 pmFor the record, I am NOT in favor of homosexuals being executed for their sexual orientation.
Comment by Jake
Wow, I nearly puked right there. Care to explain why you actually want to explain, Jakie-chan?
April 16th, 2007 at 2:00 pmDemocracy is what “we” want but if it is imposed then it is not a democracy after all. The culture in Mesopotamia and then Iraq has existed for thousands of years. I would venture to guess that their culture would remain long after our capitalism is long gone if we don’t blow everything up.
Bush & Co went to Iraq in order to control the resources there and to establish dominance in the area through force. Iraq is a staging area for attacking Iran. Countries in the desert appear harsh to us because they are harsh. If not for resources Iraq would still be Mesopotamia.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:01 pmJake: I had a feeling you would NOT be supportive of the killing of gays for just ‘being gay’. I applaud you for this.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:03 pmAnother reason for us to leave. This is their country and moral relativism dictates that we not pass judgement because no culture is beter than any other. So lets get out and let the islamist get on with enslaving women and killing off the rest of the homosexuals.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:05 pmThanks, whiteyfresh : )
April 16th, 2007 at 2:07 pmAh. So this is why Emperor Bush and his trusted buddy Jeff Gannon don’t “do” Iraq together…
April 16th, 2007 at 2:09 pmReligion of peace?
Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 1:40 pm
You referring to Christianity or Judaism?
I guess you missed your *buddy* firehead’s comment just below yours? Or maybe you forgot the stoning of Gays in Israel when they tried to have a gay pride march?
Or that most Christian countries until very recently practiced the same barbarisms, and are still barbaric in the treatment of Gays on several fronts?
This is a positive sign as far as I’m concerned of the progress made in Iraq. Comment by firehead — April 16, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Yeah, that’s the *values* vote the GOP counts on.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:11 pmJC-did ANYONE ever follow up on why the “GANNON CANNON” was at the white house? Does anyone know the “blow-by-blow”(*snicker*) of what was going on while he was being issued those daily passes?
April 16th, 2007 at 2:11 pm#23 – JC-did ANYONE ever follow up on why the “GANNON CANNON†was at the white house? Does anyone know the “blow-by-blowâ€(*snicker*) of what was going on while he was being issued those daily passes?
What’s come out (of the closet?) is that Mr. Gannon Cannon spent the night, yes, the NIGHT, in the WhiteHouse at least 13 times. This comes from the records that were reviewed for other unrelated reasons.
There is only one person, just ONE, who was also in the WhiteHouse those very same 13 nights. Care to take a guess who it was?
ITMFAs now!!!
April 16th, 2007 at 2:15 pmproven fact, huh? Can you please point us to the study that proves this “fact”???
April 16th, 2007 at 2:17 pmAssuming this wasn’t heavy sarcasm… your comments are ridiculous.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:18 pmDon’t blame us for him… with *values* like that, we don’t claim him and we don’t want him.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:19 pmYou referring to Christianity or Judaism?
I guess you missed your *buddy* firehead’s comment just below yours? Or maybe you forgot the stoning of Gays in Israel when they tried to have a gay pride march?
Why are you talking about Christianity or Judaism? What do they have to do with this situation? So you know I am not religious, so your pitiful reference to this subject to try and catch me in something is rather pointless. I take it you are not against the Muslim religion for this, because you only see fault in Christians and Jews?
April 16th, 2007 at 2:21 pmJC:GASP…you don’t mean….BUSH?I thought he was cheating on Laura with CONDI!!!!!
April 16th, 2007 at 2:26 pmwhere’s Daryll?
April 16th, 2007 at 2:27 pmI wear girl undies.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:36 pmI dont know why they would be executed when bi/homosexuality among men is sort of overlooked in the Arab culture. You cant have sex with a woman before you’re married but another man seems to be OK as do animals. Just from what I have seen and heard.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:42 pmNo, quite the opposite. We see fault in all of the brain washing religions of the world. They are only around to give cattle like you people something to do every Sunday.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:44 pmDaryll is attending rehab, and will not be posting for awhile.
April 16th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI am unable to discuss his situation any further, lest I compromise my position.
Incredible that thinkprogress.org puts this up, but doesn’t speak about the sexual cleansing going on in Iran, Korea, Cuba, the old Soviet Union ( a liberals paradise), where the palestinians live and many other places tha tthe liberals hold as paradises.
why is thinkprogress.org only pointing out these horrific acts when they happen in Iraq, but not as they happen in other nations….
bunch of hypocrites…sad, sad….
April 16th, 2007 at 2:58 pm#2
“Religion of peace?”
What religion do you think the guys in southeastern Wyoming who hang them on the barb wire fences belong to?
April 16th, 2007 at 2:59 pm#35, because it’s only bad if it happens in Iraq… then they’re able to say that it wouldn’t be happening if only we hadn’t invaded. Anything to quench their BDS thirst.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:01 pmthe old Soviet Union ( a liberals paradise),
Comment by Captain Kirk
Prove it.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:01 pmThis could happen here.
If the Religious Reich ever takes over the government, the gays will be the first to go into the Halliburton Soap Factory detention camps.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:12 pmIf they hate homosexuals so much (and homosexual sex), why rape them? Isn’t that committing what they believe is the sin? Or do they rationalize it away somehow?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe idea of homosexual men being raped and murdered really touched something in the resident trolls. Usually they have one or two at a time and work in shifts. This time it looks like everyone but daryll decided to weigh in. wonder why?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:17 pmIsn’t it something that VVGFU *conveniently* had to be somewhere else when pressed for cites to his inane comments.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:23 pm#40 You would be amazed what people can rationalize. There is something called “on the DL” where (supposedly) straight men have sex with other straight men. But they say it is strictly for pleasure and doesn’t mean anything, least of all that they are gay. With a sexually repressed country like Iraq I would be willing to bet there are a lot of self-hating closet cases ready and willing to take it out on more openly gay men.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:25 pmNo, quite the opposite. We see fault in all of the brain washing religions of the world. They are only around to give cattle like you people something to do every Sunday.
You did see that I said I was not religious right? That is the second time today somebody has not read my post that was very clear.
So you know I am not religious
April 16th, 2007 at 3:34 pmWhy are you talking about Christianity or Judaism? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
Because you claimed this was an issue with Islam, so I was pointing out the st*pidity of your comment, of course.
What do they have to do with this situation? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
So you didn’t read the comment from your fellow *religious* conservative? Or do you only have animus for the wacks from the religion of Islam?
So you know I am not religious, so your pitiful reference to this subject to try and catch me in something is rather pointless. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
You aren’t religious? Sure you are. You are devoted to the *religion* of Conservatism. The same religion your fellow Conservatives in Iraq are practicing with these acts.
It’s not rather pointless, it’s actually quite relevant. You didn’t attack the lunatics of Conservative Religious types, you only attack Islam – which as your fire*ss friend demonstrated, was falsely applied.
I take it you are not against the Muslim religion for this, because you only see fault in Christians and Jews? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 2:21 pm
I’m against all fanatics that use religion as an excuse for their fanaticism. I take it you are only against Muslims, as you refused to condemn your fellow conservatives for their saying the murder of gay people is good? Is that because you can only see fault with Muslims?
See I’m not defending the acts of lunatics – you are. Then again, you’re a lunatic, so it’s to be expected.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIsn’t it something that VVGFU *conveniently* had to be somewhere else when pressed for cites to his inane comments. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
It’s a blog Dale, I can comment whenever or on whatever I feel about. Your *opinion*, is as useless as you are.
So tell Dale, will you condemn the words of Fire*ss, or are you saying that only Muslim gay haters are bad?
#35, because it’s only bad if it happens in Iraq… then they’re able to say that it wouldn’t be happening if only we hadn’t invaded. Anything to quench their BDS thirst. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Weren’t they supposed to be bringing us flowers in Iraq by now? Tell me Dale, how many reports of mass murder of gay people were flowing out of Iraq? Remember now, we knew about all sorts of tragedies there, but what about this one?
And are you saying that a country under US control should be measured by the state of the country under the hand of a right wing dictator? Oh wait, what’s changed again?
You’re an idiot Dale.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:40 pmYou did see that I said I was not religious right? That is the second time today somebody has not read my post that was very clear. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 3:34 pm
Then why won’t you condemn your fellow Christian/Jewish friends that say killing Gay people is a sign of progress in Iraq? Or is your non-religiousness only targeted at Islam VinceP?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:41 pmAnything to quench their BDS thirst. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 3:01 pm
Someone like you with LDS looks incredibly hypocritical with your posts Dale. How many of us do you ever see on your wingnut sites? Not that you would ever allow dissent – but you get the point, don’t you little boy?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:42 pmThe idea of homosexual men being raped and murdered really touched something in the resident trolls. Usually they have one or two at a time and work in shifts. This time it looks like everyone but daryll decided to weigh in. wonder why?
Comment by klyde — April 16, 2007 @
Sexual excitement….obviously.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:43 pm#3 Firehead
Idiothead is more apt!
April 16th, 2007 at 3:52 pmthis is what we’re fighting for over there?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:53 pmValianVenusGrewFromUranas,
This is an issue with Islam, it has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity or Judaism. If there is a thread set up where Christians are the culprits of something like this, I will equally condemn them. Unfortunately, this thread has to do with Muslims not Christians or Jews. Your inability to make rational arguments relative to a situation is rather impressive. I don’t remember defending anybody, unless of course by my not condemning a few posters posts on the subject is considered defending them. With that way of thinking, since you have not spoken out against the murders and rapes of homosexuals by Muslims, you must therefore be defending them? You also mentioned that my fellow conservatives are the ones that committed these acts. I urge you to actually read who did this and take the blindfold off.
Here is a thought, don’t respond to my posts anymore. It is getting pretty redundant pointing out the inconsistancies of your arguments.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:53 pmThen why won’t you condemn your fellow Christian/Jewish friends that say killing Gay people is a sign of progress in Iraq? Or is your non-religiousness only targeted at Islam VinceP?
Because there is a big difference between some harsh words on a message board and actually killing and raping people because of their sexual orientation.
April 16th, 2007 at 3:55 pmBecause there is a big difference between some harsh words on a message board and actually killing and raping people because of their sexual orientation.
ValientVenusGrewFromUranus,
Can you discern the difference?
April 16th, 2007 at 3:57 pmBecause there is a big difference between some harsh words on a message board and actually killing and raping people because of their sexual orientation. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 3:55 pm
Wow, so you believe that it’s OK to use hate speech, and call for the murder of people as long as you don’t do it yourself? Yep, you are definitely that *values* vote.
Yet you’re the same wacko that expect LIBRULS to be judged by what you consider to be OUR harsh words.
That makes you a hypocrite, an idiot, and a fool.
So then when religious conservatives drag a man behind a truck, or pin him to a fence to die in this country because they feel the person is immoral, that’s somehow different than when Iraqis do it?
You’re an idiot, rabbid rat.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:08 pmCan you discern the difference?
Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
Yeah, the difference is that the people in Iraq KNOW they can get away with it, whereas the Jake*sses here are hoping that the laws change so they eventually will be able to as well.
Do you know the difference? Apparently know, idiot.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWow, so you believe that it’s OK to use hate speech, and call for the murder of people as long as you don’t do it yourself? Yep, you are definitely that *values* vote.
Posting hateful things on a blog to get a rise out of people is not hate speech. It is stupid, but hardly considered hate speech. And yes murder and rape is much much worse than posting on a board.
Yet you’re the same wacko that expect LIBRULS to be judged by what you consider to be OUR harsh words.
When did I say that?
So then when religious conservatives drag a man behind a truck, or pin him to a fence to die in this country because they feel the person is immoral, that’s somehow different than when Iraqis do it?
Again if there is a thread about that I will condemn it just like I condemned the Muslims that did this. When did I say that was okay? Please lets actually stick to what was said, I know that you like to change things for your argument and all-but just try it once.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:16 pmYeah, the difference is that the people in Iraq KNOW they can get away with it, whereas the Jake*sses here are hoping that the laws change so they eventually will be able to as well.
Do you know the difference? Apparently know, idiot.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
People get away with murder all the time in this country, so if he really wanted to he would. You throw more hatred out than I have seen from anybody here, so I guess the only reason you aren’t killing Christians or conservatives is because of the laws here?
April 16th, 2007 at 4:17 pmPosting hateful things on a blog to get a rise out of people is not hate speech. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
BAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
BAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH
BAHGAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA
What a st*pid comment! Of course it is!
It is stupid, but hardly considered hate speech. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Where it’s said, doesn’t change whether or not it’s hate speech – dum bass!
And yes murder and rape is much much worse than posting on a board. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Murder is always worse than inciting murder. But inciting murder is in fact a crime if it is believe to cause the act. This is the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater, and this is why people respond to so harshly to to the hate speech of people in authority in particular.
When did I say that? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
You attack and judge liberals who post here, purely on their words, which you just said aren’t relevant.
Again if there is a thread about that I will condemn it just like I condemned the Muslims that did this. When did I say that was okay? Please lets actually stick to what was said, I know that you like to change things for your argument and all-but just try it once.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Your condemnation was targeted specific and purely at Muslims, and you refused to condemn (as you still do) the hate speech of your fellow Christian/Jewish conservatives. That means you support their words, and therefore are a bigot yourself unless you condemn them and their words when challenged to do so.
So what you’re saying is that you believe that it’s ok to call for the murder of gay people (as firehead did), as long as you aren’t the one that does the actual deed?
You’re a lunatic.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:23 pmPeople get away with murder all the time in this country, so if he really wanted to he would. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
How do you know he hasn’t, gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay. And here you are supporting his hate speech. You’re a real *values* person, aren’t you?
You throw more hatred out than I have seen from anybody here, so I guess the only reason you aren’t killing Christians or conservatives is because of the laws here? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:17 pm
Hatred? Or criticism? I’ve never called for the murder or torture of anyone, even you Nazis. I don’t throw around hate, I throw around a mirror to your hate. No wonder you don’t like what you see…
I would never kill Christians like yourself. Get you medical treatment for your lunacy, for sure, even help pay for it with socialized medicine. Yeah, I’m a real *evil* person! You really should stop projecting your terrorism and hate values on others, Osama.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:26 pmMurder is always worse than inciting murder. But inciting murder is in fact a crime if it is believe to cause the act. This is the same as yelling fire in a crowded theater, and this is why people respond to so harshly to to the hate speech of people in authority in particular.
And you actually think that any postings on this thread will incite muder? What time is lights out at the mental hospital?
Your condemnation was targeted specific and purely at Muslims, and you refused to condemn (as you still do) the hate speech of your fellow Christian/Jewish conservatives. That means you support their words, and therefore are a bigot yourself unless you condemn them and their words when challenged to do so.
Again I don’t see what was said on this thread as nearly as bad as the acts above, which by the way you have yet to condemn. So on your same logic you support the acts. This is all you have said I’m against all fanatics that use religion as an excuse for their fanaticism hardly a condemnation.
You attack and judge liberals who post here, purely on their words, which you just said aren’t relevant.
I have not attacked or judged anybody here, I have argued with and debated. I leave the pointless attacks to you.
How do you know he hasn’t, gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay. And here you are supporting his hate speech. You’re a real *values* person, aren’t you?
From what I have seen you are more likely to kill somebody than Jake.
You really should stop projecting your terrorism and hate values on others, Osama
Comments like this just show that you are not above hate speech yourself. Comparing me to a known terrorist that is responsible for many innocent deaths, congrats on your hypocracy.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:41 pmthis is what we’re fighting for over there?
yes
April 16th, 2007 at 4:46 pmHow do you know he hasn’t, gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay.
And that is wrong, but that is not what this thread is about.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWay ahead of you… look at #26; I *already* condemned firehead.
Gee VVFGU, so let’s see if I understand, you post any old ranting and raving, making up facts and “proven” idiotic hypothesis as you go along, but if someone asks YOU for a cite, then there *opinion* is useless, huh?
Hey, you’d be more than welcome on “wingnut” sites… that is until you started your usual hate-filled speech. Guess we understand why you’re afraid to venture away from your own loving cocoon.
April 16th, 2007 at 4:59 pmAll the time, huh? I’m sure it *does* happen, and when it does it’s tragic. But “all the time”??? Care to cite your sources for *this* inane statement?
April 16th, 2007 at 5:02 pmGuess we understand why you’re afraid to venture away from your own loving cocoon
Couldn’t have said it better if I tried.
April 16th, 2007 at 5:03 pmAnd you actually think that any postings on this thread will incite muder? What time is lights out at the mental hospital? Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
How do you know it won’t be a contributing factor for someone? Are you that much of a mind reader? Hate speech is still hate speech, even if it isn’t the final trigger that pushes someone to act. Yes, you need a mental hospital, you supporter of hate, hate speech, and murder.
Again I don’t see what was said on this thread as nearly as bad as the acts above, which by the way you have yet to condemn. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
So you don’t think firehead saying that killing gay people is showing progress in Iraq is condemnable? Then you’re as bad as firehead and the terrorists that commit the act.
I have not attacked or judged anybody here, I have argued with and debated. I leave the pointless attacks to you. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
No, you’ve attacked people here, you haven’t debated. And you’ve also shown an unwillingness to condemn hate speech. If you don’t condemn it, then you support it.
From what I have seen you are more likely to kill somebody than Jake. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Really, based on what? The fact I call you wacks *ssh*les for wanting to kill, murder and oppress others? Please. You’re just projecting your own hate.
I have never called for the murder of anyone, but the same can’t be said for you, and your side, you’re an idiot.
Comments like this just show that you are not above hate speech yourself. Comparing me to a known terrorist that is responsible for many innocent deaths, congrats on your hypocracy. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
Pointing out that you defend the actions of someone that calls for murdering gay people makes me the hypocrite? You refused to condemn someone that applauded murder of innocent lives, while calling me a hypocrite when I point out your actions align you with Terrorists, not with me.
Hypocrisy (check your spelling sport if you’re going to use a big word) is what you demonstrate, not me. You fringe Lunatic!
April 16th, 2007 at 5:59 pmAll the time, huh? I’m sure it *does* happen, and when it does it’s tragic. But “all the time�?? Care to cite your sources for *this* inane statement? Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 5:02 pm
Law enforcement’s latest reports show almost 2000 (reported) hate crimes against gay people occur every year, with many more estimated to not be reported. Including ongoing harassment of gay students and individuals on a daily basis in many cases.
Since 1998 alone, there have been DOZENS of LGBT people murdered in the US, just because they’re gay.
That’s all the time enough for me.
You CONS though seem to prefer the ‘Iraqi’ solution though, don’t you bigot?
April 16th, 2007 at 6:06 pmWay ahead of you… look at #26; I *already* condemned firehead. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
That’s a weak condemnation, because it doesn’t say the comments are evil, hateful or immoral, it just says ‘ridiculous’, which could mean satirical or any other lose interpretation. So to use your own words Dale, your criticism was ‘ridiculous’.
Gee VVFGU, so let’s see if I understand, you post any old ranting and raving, making up facts and “proven†idiotic hypothesis as you go along, but if someone asks YOU for a cite, then there *opinion* is useless, huh? Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
I happily supply you *facts*, dum bass. The sick part is that I *have* to supply you *facts*, because you’re such an ignorant uninformed Jake*ss, that you don’t already know this!
Hey, you’d be more than welcome on “wingnut†sites… that is until you started your usual hate-filled speech. Guess we understand why you’re afraid to venture away from your own loving cocoon. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
Says the hate-filled idiot that posts his hate freely here.
Like I said, wingnut sites can’t handle the kind of dissent you spew here, hypocrite.
Who said I don’t venture into wingnut country? How would you know? After all, it’s the land of censorship, and ‘love our own’ koolaid drinkers like yourself! You really aren’t the sharpest tool, are you wingnut?
April 16th, 2007 at 6:09 pmGuess we understand why you’re afraid to venture away from your own loving cocoon
Couldn’t have said it better if I tried.
Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 5:03 pm
And you’re both wrong. Although saying you couldn’t say it better yourself, is hardly a compliment coming from a hate filled blithering idiot like yourself that won’t even condemn hate speech and the call for murdering gay people. At least Dale had enough backbone to call it ‘ridiculous’, albeit a pretty lame criticism.
Both of you idiots just recite the talking points you repeat, and repeat on your wingnut sites. Do you really think we’re unaware, and unfamiliar with the b*llsh*t you copy and paste here?
You’re delusional little boy/girl.
April 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pmI’m just wondering here…..is there anything that happen that isn’t directly Bush’s fault? Just wondering?
Oh yeah, I’m sure this will make me a repuke troll, oh well….
April 16th, 2007 at 6:11 pmI’m just wondering here…..is there anything that happen that isn’t directly Bush’s fault? Just wondering? Comment by Craig Mack — April 16, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
You confuse fault with responsibility. Any number of people in the chain of command that lead to this failure could share the fault. However, Bush is the president, this is his responsibility. You can be assured this is way low in his priorities list.
Oh yeah, I’m sure this will make me a repuke troll, oh well….
Comment by Craig Mack — April 16, 2007 @ 6:11 pm
It most certainly makes you sound like one – imagine that.
You Clinton Derangement Syndrome types like Dale and rabbid rat’s *ss would always blame everything on Clinton, but a war that Bush drove, against the international and domestic community, without cause, without justification, and without basis you never put the consequences of as something Bush owns. Why is that?
April 16th, 2007 at 6:21 pmI’m just wondering here…..is there anything that happen that isn’t directly Bush’s fault? Just wondering?
According to the trolls nothing is Bush’s fault. It is all Clinton’s. Sorry bud, Bush set things in motion. Every atrocity committed by our troops or our proxies in Iraq are laid directly at his feet, where they belong. Had Bush not had a hard on for Saddam, these murders wouldn’t have happened. What do 30 more bodies mean to Bush though? That is child’s play to him.
April 16th, 2007 at 6:24 pmHey, I just asked a simple question folks. I read most of these post, yet rarely reply. I just honestly wanted to throw that out there and watch who attacked me. Way to latch on valiant!
April 16th, 2007 at 6:29 pmwhat you said in #60 was:
the in #68,
So first you say gay people are killed all the time just because they’re gay. When asked for proof, you change it to hate crimes, and give a stat of “DOZENS” of LGBT people murdered since 1998. Gee, where do I start?
* Those hate crimes, while despicable, are *not* murder… so your stat (still without a cite) doesn’t support your asinine statement in #60.
* Dozens of LGBT, huh? Where’s the stat? And let’s consider dozens as 4… so 48 murders in 9 years. Any murder is wrong, a “hate crime” especialy so… but it STILL doesn’t support your “gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay” statement.
As usual, your over-the-top rhetoric isn’t backed up by facts.
No, you provided your opinion… you still have not cited one source, because you CAN’T cite sources for your idiocy.
Please show me what “hate” I’ve posted.
Face it VVGFU, all you know how to do is spew hate our of your garbage-filled life. When asked for facts to back it up, you cannot cite a SINGLE SOURCE for your idiotic comments.
April 16th, 2007 at 7:48 pmSo first you say gay people are killed all the time just because they’re gay. When asked for proof, you change it to hate crimes, and give a stat of “DOZENS†of LGBT people murdered since 1998. Gee, where do I start? Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
So you dismiss the known murders of dozens of gay people, the brutalizations of tens of thousands in recent years, and then we have the rampant teen suicides from kids that have to put up with the hatred, venom and hate speech of people like you, and you dismiss their suffering?
Wow, you’re sick.
* Those hate crimes, while despicable, are *not* murder… so your stat (still without a cite) doesn’t support your asinine statement in #60. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
People die all of the time, what’s wrong with what I said, it’s true. The largest number die because they commit suicide from the oppression, ridicule and hate that people like you throw at them when they’re teenagers. Sexual identity issues is the single largest killer among teens – but you probably own no responsibility in that, do you – hate monger?
* Dozens of LGBT, huh? Where’s the stat? And let’s consider dozens as 4… so 48 murders in 9 years. Any murder is wrong, a “hate crime†especialy so… but it STILL doesn’t support your “gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay†statement. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
It’s actually tracked by the US government, and their hate crimes division. Showing your ignorance again?
So just because we have emergency care in this country, and many of the victims of hate crimes survive here, you say no big deal? What a hate filled piece of sh*t you are.
As usual, your over-the-top rhetoric isn’t backed up by facts.
No, you provided your opinion… you still have not cited one source, because you CAN’T cite sources for your idiocy. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
US hate crime database. Go use “the google” and find it, st*pid ignorant j*ck*ss.
Please show me what “hate†I’ve posted. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
You dismiss out of hand the suffering, oppression and bigotry that gay people receive at the hands of you bigots. You enable, support, and facilitate their actions – hate filled bigot.
Face it VVGFU, all you know how to do is spew hate our of your garbage-filled life. When asked for facts to back it up, you cannot cite a SINGLE SOURCE for your idiotic comments. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 7:48 pm
What’s sad, is that you come and pretend to know something about this source, and you know nothing. You haven’t refuted a single thing I said, I supplied you with numbers, and you have no counter-numbers in your defense. You didn’t back up your arguments, yet you claim I didn’t back mine up.
That makes you not only a hypocrite, but a bigot.
Here’s a resource page that lists some of the older hate crimes. Yeah Dale, anti-gay bigotry is just in my imagination.
You’re a hate filled idiot.
http://www.hrc.org/Template.cfm?Section=Hate_Crimes1&Template=/ContentManagement/ContentDisplay.cfm&ContentID=27103
April 16th, 2007 at 8:11 pmHey, I just asked a simple question folks. I read most of these post, yet rarely reply. I just honestly wanted to throw that out there and watch who attacked me. Way to latch on valiant! Comment by Craig Mack — April 16, 2007 @ 6:29 pm
You attacked, I merely explained why your attack was a strawman, and the work of a partisan hack. Way to latch on to a talking point Craig!
April 16th, 2007 at 8:12 pmShow me where I dismissed? First I said:
then I said:
Dismiss? Riiiight.
I could supply *you* with numbers, that doesn’t prove a thing.
Ah, finally… a source that you actually cited. You *are* growing up!
Except you should trying citing a source like the FBI. This table shows that the number of hate crimes reported in 2005 that are attributable to sexual orientation is 1017.
Try to get this through your thick skull hendler. Any hate crime is wrong, and hate crime in general is disgusting. I wasn’t arguing that. I was just challenging your idiotic assertion that
In fact, this resource (hatecrimes.org) gives the 2004 hate crime stats (due to sexual orientation) at 1197. Which means sexually-oriented hate crimes have gone DOWN from 2000 to 2005.
Hendler, it’s really sad that you have to resort to idiocy instead of discussing the facts… are you like that in your personal life also? Naw, you’re probably too scared of life to *dare* talk back to those around you.
Wimp.
April 16th, 2007 at 9:28 pmlink for FBI stats in #78 (link didn’t go through)
April 16th, 2007 at 9:30 pmPointing out that you defend the actions of someone that calls for murdering gay people makes me the hypocrite? You refused to condemn someone that applauded murder of innocent lives, while calling me a hypocrite when I point out your actions align you with Terrorists, not with me
Yet you still have not condemned the actions of the Muslims that raped and killed homosexuals. You are truly inept.
April 16th, 2007 at 11:34 pmNo, you’ve attacked people here, you haven’t debated.
Give me one example of me attacking somebody that did not attack me first. We both know you are all talk, now prove it!
April 16th, 2007 at 11:35 pmAnd you’re both wrong. Although saying you couldn’t say it better yourself, is hardly a compliment coming from a hate filled blithering idiot like yourself that won’t even condemn hate speech and the call for murdering gay people. At least Dale had enough backbone to call it ‘ridiculous’, albeit a pretty lame criticism.
Both of you idiots just recite the talking points you repeat, and repeat on your wingnut sites. Do you really think we’re unaware, and unfamiliar with the b*llsh*t you copy and paste here?
You’re delusional little boy/girl.
Yet you won’t condemn the Muslims that killed and raped innocent homosexuals. I re-read what you see as hate speech and it clearly isn’t. It is just a tasteless joke, you are really grasping at straws.
April 16th, 2007 at 11:37 pmI have never called for the murder of anyone, but the same can’t be said for you
When???? Again I am going to have to ask you to prove something that you are fabricating. Have you ever typed a truthful statement?
April 16th, 2007 at 11:39 pmShow me where I dismissed? First I said: Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
You know, where you claimed that gay people were getting murdered and attacked, just because you were ignorant of the facts.
Dismiss? Riiiight. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Yep, just like you’re dismissing me pointing out you’re an ignorant idiot.
I could supply *you* with numbers, that doesn’t prove a thing. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
BAHAHA, sure it does. It proves you chose to pick a fight on a topic you were completely ignorant of, and when someone pointed out that ignorance instead of showing where it was wrong, you simply bluffed out of your own ignorance. Typical *con*.
Ah, finally… a source that you actually cited. You *are* growing up! Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Says the child. When you get your p*bic hair, maybe you’ll understand why you come across like a sniveling brat.
Except you should trying citing a source like the FBI. This table shows that the number of hate crimes reported in 2005 that are attributable to sexual orientation is 1017. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Do you really believe these are the only hate crimes in the US? You’re an idiot.
Try to get this through your thick skull hendler. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Thick skull indeed – that’s you. I’m not Hendler, I make fun of Hendler. Don’t trip while getting on the shortbus home, junior.
Any hate crime is wrong, and hate crime in general is disgusting. I wasn’t arguing that. I was just challenging your idiotic assertion that
gay people are killed in the US all of the time, simply because they’re gay. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
You don’t think thousands of people getting attacked, many of them attempted murders constitutes all of the time? You don’t think gay people committing suicide because of prejudice like yours, resulting from prejudice like yours constitutes death brought about by your prejudices?
You’re a hateful idiot.
In fact, this resource (hatecrimes.org) gives the 2004 hate crime stats (due to sexual orientation) at 1197. Which means sexually-oriented hate crimes have gone DOWN from 2000 to 2005. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
You’re full of sh*t. Look again at that site you posted, and you lied. You trimmed 1/4 of the number of hatecrimes from that site – it lists 1482 for 2004. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0004885.html
You’re a hate filled idiot.
Hendler, it’s really sad that you have to resort to idiocy instead of discussing the facts… are you like that in your personal life also? Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
I discuss ‘the facts’, with people that come armed with them. You know nothing, and the ‘facts’ you cited were patently false. Are you a pedantic, arrogant prick in real life?
Naw, you’re probably too scared of life to *dare* talk back to those around you. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Funny, that sounds like a perfect description of you… You know, the *ssh*le that dismisses the prejudice inflicted on a minority, so you feel ‘good’ about being a bigoted brat. You’re a coward, a liar, and an ignorant fool.
Wimp. Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:28 pm
Project much? You belittle the suffering of gay people, that must be subjected to hate filled *ssh*les like you every day, that think the prejudice inflicted against them is no big deal. You’re the wimp – *ssh*le.
April 16th, 2007 at 11:51 pmlink for FBI stats in #78 (link didn’t go through)
Comment by Dale — April 16, 2007 @ 9:30 pm
That should be your tagline – link didn’t go through. FYI, idiot, the link you posted is NOT the link for hate crimes. Where did you pull that from, some jake*ss partisan hack site?
You’re an idiot Dale. You can’t even post a link to the correct information, while criticizing me for your inadequacies! Typical wingnut projection.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:10 amYet you still have not condemned the actions of the Muslims that raped and killed homosexuals. You are truly inept. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 11:34 pm
Oh b*llsh*t. I condemned *all* hate crimes from all religious groups, you lying hate filled piece of sh*t liar. You are truly inept, you partisan hate filled bigot.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:11 amGive me one example of me attacking somebody that did not attack me first. We both know you are all talk, now prove it! Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 11:35 pm
You come to a liberal website, post hate filled b*llsh*t, and you’re not attacking those that post here? BAHAHAAHA, you’re an idiot, in addition to being a liar, you st*pid hack.
April 17th, 2007 at 12:12 amYet you won’t condemn the Muslims that killed and raped innocent homosexuals. I re-read what you see as hate speech and it clearly isn’t. It is just a tasteless joke, you are really grasping at straws. Comment by rabidbunny — April 16, 2007 @ 11:37 pm
It wasn’t a tasteless joke, it was hate speech. You bigots always pretend your hate speech is a *joke* when you get called on your hatred. Tell me, why do you think talking about killing gay people is *funny*, Coulter?
You’re a sick f*cking lunatic! What’s tasteless is you, you cowardly piece of trailer trash!
April 17th, 2007 at 12:13 amFunny. I was just wondering why there was so little comment about this from non-trolls.
The regular posters here seem to be exclusively concerned with commenting on what trolls have posted rather than the news story itself.
This was the only clear reason I could spot for the unwillingness to comment…..
April 17th, 2007 at 7:34 am
Oh b*llsh*t. I condemned *all* hate crimes from all religious groups, you lying hate filled piece of sh*t liar. You are truly inept, you partisan hate filled bigot.
You said: I’m against all fanatics that use religion as an excuse for their fanaticism, hardly a condmnation of these horrible acts.
Interestingly enough this condemnation by Dale about the hate speech you can’t get past your comments are ridiculous, was not enough for you. You are quite deranged.
April 17th, 2007 at 10:01 amYou come to a liberal website, post hate filled b*llsh*t, and you’re not attacking those that post here? BAHAHAAHA, you’re an idiot, in addition to being a liar, you st*pid hack.
Yet you still will not prove it and show me a hate filled quote by me. It shouldn’t be that hard, unless of course you are full of bullshit.
April 17th, 2007 at 10:02 am