I am shocked that all the people that mocked my posts saying that if there was no sex before marriage there would be less unplanned pregnancies have not responded to the above quote on abortion stats.

I didn’t get married to “start a family”. I got married because I loved him and wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. My daughter came from that love. She wasn’t “planned”.

Good for you that you didn’t get married to start a family, which is why I said most people not all people get married to start a family. Whether you admit it or not most people actually do get married with the thought of having children in the future.

speculations 3 & 4 below appear to be confirmed from new info on shooter’s religious background and school’s sensitivity to psychological issues: family was hyper-religious and he internalized a rigid Christian moralism which justified his dispensing punishing violence.

His creative writing teacher and the English Dept recognized and were long concerned by his warning signs but the larger university appears to have had policing rather than a more mental health orientation to his violent fantasies, and ignored his likely underlying psychotic depression. This seems to reflect an inadequate preventative / pro-active mental health program given the extent of warnings they received and their seeming failure to convene an intervention plan with the Dean of Students etc. to urge a full mental health evaluation or other intervention perhaps including parents, minister, etc.

Other technical schools, science and engineering depts especially ie. MIT, Harvard, have also learned the hard way that they must pay more attention to the stress, isolation, cultural shock, and mental vulnerabilities of their students and grad students to prevent suicides and homicides by disturbed students.

Minority and foreign students also have unique stressors of their own which administrators need to take into account. Mentoring programs, special orientation program, student to student drop-in counseling programs, and other innovations have been tried elsewhere. I wonder if any exist at Virginia Tech.

As per yesterday’s comment:

“File this under speculations:

Possible factors influencing rampage by disturbed young man…

1. Young male – more prone to lethal violent rejection and jealousy fueled rage than females, or older persons seasoned by love loss.

2. Racial aspect…history of Korean vs Black antagonism in some US cities, ie LA riots.

3. Possible religious stressor….South Koreans have been heavily proselytized by evangelical christians, who converted many. Korean evangelicals are often strong believers with rigid consciences. Many have immigrated to the US along with their churches and right-wing views.

What will we learn about his religious beliefs, if any, and what frustrations and conflicts may have been intensified by fundamentalist strictures inciting moralistic anger “justifying” his rage.

4. Tech schools are often quite stressful, and foster a culture which is resistant to psychologizing, offering limited mental health services and outreach, overlooking the isolation and harmful competitiveness which comes along with science and engineering disciplines and the students who are drawn to such careers…not always the most emotionally mature or socially adept at an age when few of us are.

Comment by Michael C — April 17, 2007 @ 11:12 am”

Hubba wha? Excuse me, are you trying to say that women get married to be barefoot and pregnant? Uh uh, no way, Jose. Don’t go there.

I didn’t get married to “start a family”. I got married because I loved him and wanted to spend the rest of my life with him. My daughter came from that love. She wasn’t “planned”.

The main issue here is a lack of education. Most people are scared to death to talk about sex to their children and it disgusts me to no end.
Yes, I have talked to my 11-year old about sex. She knows what sex is, and the consequences and has told me she will wait. I know for a fact that when she is going out with guys, that promise may not last, but at least she will know how to protect herself against diseases and unwanted pregnancies.

Just educate these kids, for Pete’s sake. Or are you too close-minded, too ashamed of your own nature, too conservative to do it yourself?

I looked up the stats and you could not be more wrong.

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/03facts/pregbirths.htm

The abortion rate for unmarried women is over four times higher than that of married women;

Looking at pregnancies among married women, three out of four ended in a live birth in 1999, and 7 percent ended in abortion;

Among unmarried women about half the pregnancies ended in a live birth while about 40 percent ended in abortion. In 1990 pregnancies among unmarried women were more likely to end in abortion than in a live birth.

I have NEVER pointed out spelling errors on this blog.
Try again, lame-ass.

My mistake on the spelling error comment. I had you mixed up with Raven. I apologize. However, in my defense you came after me with attacks well before I said anything negative about you.

As for me not getting the sarcasm you are referring to, why is it not worth your time to state said sarcasm but you have plenty of time to insult me?

Comment by lestatdelc

I never did any back pedalling, read what I said from the beginning nothing has changed. I never agreed with FRC I simply stated that there are many more risks with sex outside of marriage. You made it something that it wasn’t.

Are they white Americans? Didn’t think so….next topic of discussion?
/sarcasm

1) It allows the Christians to feel good about themselves, i.e., increase their piety.

2) It gives the Christians an additional opportunity to force their religion down other’s… er.. excuse me, to convert heathens to Christianity.

True Love Waits — a Christian group promoting abstinence-only education — is planning to expand its operations in six African countries, thanks to a recent surge in donations.

African countries have bigger issues than extramarital sex on their hands but I guess telling people to keep it in their pants is the easiest item they can cross out in God’s priority list.

go forth but avoid multipling, the habitrail can only hold so many hampsters

Try again at your weak-assed trolling.

The notable difference: taxpayer money v. donations

Try real hard, and you might figure it out.

Try again, Kilo. Telethons and fundraising groups are collecting donations, not taxpayer money.
Comment by Zooey — April 17, 2007 @ 7:55 pm

Try again at what ? If you think that was the notable difference between the two cases my point stands.