Comments on: Virginia Tech Gathers For Memorial Service At 2 PM

By: Another random user

Another random user — Wed, 25 Apr 2007 06:38:59 +0000

I’d like to say spiritual advisors only, but Bush’s presence probably helped the students feel that the country was backing them. Remember, you are not the only ones in the world. Although I did not like bush saying “the scripture” in reference to the bible.

By: Troy

Troy — Fri, 20 Apr 2007 03:19:55 +0000

You people make me sick. I can honestly say that I am not proud to be an american knowing that people like you live here. How can you makes this into something political? I dont care for bush as much as the next man but damn 32 people shot for no reason!! They didnt want to go to war.. they didnt sign up to go to iraq… they signed up for COLLEGE. Get off your high horse on the iraq shit, has nothing to do with this situation what so ever. These kids didnt sign up to go to war they were not armed and looking for a fight!! They were sitting in a damn classroom and were gun down for what?? Some screwed up kid who should have been locked away years ago. So stop you bullshit talk about bush and iraq that has nothing to do with this. SHOW SOME DAMN RESPECT FOR THE KIDS FAMILIES AND FRIENDS!!!!

By: dawn

dawn — Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:14:39 +0000

I feel sorry for all the victims of this tragedy; and as far as what Bush said, he is a no good president; all the victims of Iraq every day; why don’t you send our people home for a change and stop all the suffering that is going on. CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT YOU ARE NOT DOING ANY GOOD? I GUESS NOT!

By: Braveheart

Braveheart — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:51:22 +0000

Juan C 159

Civics 101: The United States is a Constitutional Republic that is governed by rule of law.

And that is why a President with an approval rating of 35% is still in power.

Under the rules you can impeach and convict, have a revolution, or wait until the next election.

Those are your choices. Have at ‘em.

By: Braveheart

Braveheart — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:46:56 +0000

#159 Well, changing the Saddam regime was against our laws so I would say it was done undemocratically.

Okay Jpark, prove it. Name the laws violated.

And by the way, good luck.

Cheers

By: bs

bs — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 04:24:43 +0000

can i say again,

homeland security, gotta love it!

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:08:14 +0000

The fact is the American people would not countenance a revolution at this time.
Comment by JPark
There is one thing you cant take out of people. Dignity. If US was invaded, I could bet you would give your life (I know I would) in order to fight for the right causes, or at least the ones I think are the right ones. Im sure US people is ready, but the circumstances seem mild to take that stand.

By the way, nice way of equating me with the US government:
Comment by JPark

Huh? I didnt understand.
I wasnt trying to pick on you. I was just saying that everytime I say I gladly would be an anarchist Bakunin-type, people look at me as if I was crazy.

By: big papa

big papa — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 02:06:14 +0000

We can still turn this thing around.

Comment by Bluedog49 #149

This is the country’s greatest test since the Civil War…

…will the Rule of Law prevail?

…will JUSTICE be served?

…If Bushiva, Lil Dick and company are not brought to JUSTICE…

…America will NEVER recover…

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:54:28 +0000

#162 Who is moderate? The fact is the American people would not countenance a revolution at this time. I am not going to martyr myself for a doomed cause. Selfish? Maybe.

By the way, nice way of equating me with the US government:

But feel free to tell me what you want, it is the story of my life.

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:50:41 +0000

#159 Well, changing the Saddam regime was against our laws so I would say it was done undemocratically.

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:50:40 +0000

do you equate progressive with anarchic or leftist?
Comment by JPark

Do you think there is progress in being moderate? And, this is a phylosophical question of course, and the usual discussion of any resistance movement: do we continue on the intellectual, moderate line or do we take the arms and make a revolution?

I, of course, would be in favor of anarchism, all the way. But feel free to tell me what you want, it is the story of my life.

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:44:11 +0000

#160 Hold on Juan, do you equate progressive with anarchic or leftist?

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:36:27 +0000

I really donâ€™t think a revolution doomed to fail is in the best interests of the progressive movement.
Comment by JPark

Ok, I also agree with that. But, then, what does progressive mean?

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:35:30 +0000

but by far the quickest systems are the undemocratic ones. I donâ€™t think you want totalitarianism.
Comment by Bluedog49

I disagree. Democracy is the government of the people, right? How come you have a president whose approval ratings fall to 35% and still is a democracy? You changed SaddamÂ´s regime in little time, from Shock and Awe to the seizing of Baghdad. Why it is not possible to change your own regime in the same time?

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:33:31 +0000

#157 I know what you think. I disagree. I really don’t think a revolution doomed to fail is in the best interests of the progressive movement.

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:28:13 +0000

I know, Juan, I know.
Comment by JPark

Do you mean it or you are being sarcastic?

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:17:55 +0000

#154 I know, Juan, I know.

By: JPark

JPark — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:17:35 +0000

#140 Of course there is tangible progress being made but you ignore it because it isn’t happening fast enough for you. Only immediate gratification would please you, it seems.

By: Juan C

Juan C — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 01:07:09 +0000

While some of you, slam Fed the Fcuk Up I actually agree with him in almost all levels. For me it is always welcomed that someone voices some words that disrupt my rutinely line of thought and action. It is important for progressives to always criticize government and corporation doings, but MOST IMPORTANT our own doings.

As usual in any society with a strong burgueoisie (?), nobody will do nothing until we see our own children dying or getting killed. Example: Argentina 2001.

By: Fed the Fcuk Up!

Fed the Fcuk Up! — Wed, 18 Apr 2007 00:19:55 +0000

#152,
Very reasoned and accurate, with one notable exception, war. We’re not talking about a zoning issue or changes to the tax tables. Nor are we talking about the establishment of laws or policy. People are dying violent deaths right now as a direct result of our nations actions. It only took 5 months to get into this “war”, yet we are 4 years down the road from the point where it became obvious to every being that the reasons for the invasion were thoroughly debunked. The only thing that has “changed” is that the congress is threatening to send legislation to the president that has timetables (word is that they are non-binding) for withdrawal some time in the next year.

This is a life and death issue. What is most bizzare is that since the only ones experiencing the deaths are foreigners and our own service members, people justify a “patient” approach as if we were talking about a law for having nutrition information on water bottles.

If we, as a nation, were experiencing a Virginia Tech incident on a daily basis, would we allow it to continue to happen for the next 4-5 years while we debated how best to stop it?

I appreciate your civility, but I believe that the situation is much more urgent than you give it credit for and warrants an immediate solution.