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		<title>By: SJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>SJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Irish, and I can almost guarantee you that if this poll had been taken in Ireland, we would have been in agreement with the majority.  

I cannot claim to really know that much regarding the circumstances in America.  We have our own elections coming up soon and they are more important to me currently.  (If it helps, we have an awful guy we don&#039;t want to re-elect and an awful guy we don&#039;t want to replace him.)  

However, I would like to point out that in general, our negative feelings are towards the American government, not the American people.  It seems that you were duped as much as us.  I do find it hard to understand why you allowed yourselves to be duped again.  (Then again, said &#039;awful guy&#039; here has been here a while.)  

It&#039;s strange, but every American I meet tells me how much they dislike Bush and disagree with his actions and policies.  I&#039;ve never met an American who admitted to voting for Bush.  So either I&#039;m being lied to, or those against Bush are so disillusioned as to not go out and vote.

This will never do!  Vote people!  Vote!

Many countries of the world would be delighted to see the American people taking action against something they evidently don&#039;t want, and would be no doubt quite happy to offer any assistance in getting things together again.

Just my thoughts.  Again... I&#039;m not that familiar, so don&#039;t go yelling at me.  I&#039;m happy to hear rational thoughts and arguments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Irish, and I can almost guarantee you that if this poll had been taken in Ireland, we would have been in agreement with the majority.  </p>
<p>I cannot claim to really know that much regarding the circumstances in America.  We have our own elections coming up soon and they are more important to me currently.  (If it helps, we have an awful guy we don&#8217;t want to re-elect and an awful guy we don&#8217;t want to replace him.)  </p>
<p>However, I would like to point out that in general, our negative feelings are towards the American government, not the American people.  It seems that you were duped as much as us.  I do find it hard to understand why you allowed yourselves to be duped again.  (Then again, said &#8216;awful guy&#8217; here has been here a while.)  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s strange, but every American I meet tells me how much they dislike Bush and disagree with his actions and policies.  I&#8217;ve never met an American who admitted to voting for Bush.  So either I&#8217;m being lied to, or those against Bush are so disillusioned as to not go out and vote.</p>
<p>This will never do!  Vote people!  Vote!</p>
<p>Many countries of the world would be delighted to see the American people taking action against something they evidently don&#8217;t want, and would be no doubt quite happy to offer any assistance in getting things together again.</p>
<p>Just my thoughts.  Again&#8230; I&#8217;m not that familiar, so don&#8217;t go yelling at me.  I&#8217;m happy to hear rational thoughts and arguments.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3759945', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Dana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 07:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as I agree with the seeming consensus that American has not acted responsibly and should get more help from other countries in international issues, I have to say it is only 15 countries. 

While I can imagine that the populace of most of the other countries in the world are probably in agreement, as other polls have suggested, it is a interesting mix of countries we have there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as I agree with the seeming consensus that American has not acted responsibly and should get more help from other countries in international issues, I have to say it is only 15 countries. </p>
<p>While I can imagine that the populace of most of the other countries in the world are probably in agreement, as other polls have suggested, it is a interesting mix of countries we have there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3759787', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nullRobert</title>
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		<dc:creator>nullRobert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Face it! Under Bush we lost all our prestige.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Face it! Under Bush we lost all our prestige.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3758029', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: for parity</title>
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		<dc:creator>for parity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Penny,

The system may have a few problems, God knows that the Democrats have always been behind election corruption, but the 2000 election. Well. Bush won the darn thing. The Gore campaign, in a massive planned (planned ahead of the election) moved into Florida raising cain. They had to sue several of the local Democraticly controlled precincts, as they did not want to do the recounts. Of course the Bush machine fought the Gore effort - that&#039;s what these big political machines do (both sides, my dear).

In the end, Bush won almost all of the local, and national challenges (interesting to see Gore chief atttorney in Bush v Gore out supporting the Libby side of the argument, is it not?).  All of the recounts - all of them - by the media that so much wanted Gore to win - showed that in any of the actions pursued by the Gore camp, Bush still won.

If Gore had somehow managed to win, then we could all correctly say that Bush won the election, but Gore through legal action was selected.

Get it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny,</p>
<p>The system may have a few problems, God knows that the Democrats have always been behind election corruption, but the 2000 election. Well. Bush won the darn thing. The Gore campaign, in a massive planned (planned ahead of the election) moved into Florida raising cain. They had to sue several of the local Democraticly controlled precincts, as they did not want to do the recounts. Of course the Bush machine fought the Gore effort &#8211; that&#8217;s what these big political machines do (both sides, my dear).</p>
<p>In the end, Bush won almost all of the local, and national challenges (interesting to see Gore chief atttorney in Bush v Gore out supporting the Libby side of the argument, is it not?).  All of the recounts &#8211; all of them &#8211; by the media that so much wanted Gore to win &#8211; showed that in any of the actions pursued by the Gore camp, Bush still won.</p>
<p>If Gore had somehow managed to win, then we could all correctly say that Bush won the election, but Gore through legal action was selected.</p>
<p>Get it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: patco</title>
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		<dc:creator>patco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 03:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Remember bush in the Debates that he lost said we should not be nation Builders.  What a change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember bush in the Debates that he lost said we should not be nation Builders.  What a change<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757643', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad to have married a Canadian 25 years ago. Though here are problems here as well, life is much much better for us since we moved here in 05.  I love the States, but I fear many have no clue what your future will be.  If you think you&#039;re hitting the bottom, wake up, the slide has just begun. A divided society flirting with fascism has very little chance, unless you the public stands up and demands a change, but having been born and lived 54 years in the States, I do not see it happening. I could go on, but I no longer have the energy. I would suggest more folks study history. Good luck. Oh, the writing is on the wall, it&#039;s Mandarin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad to have married a Canadian 25 years ago. Though here are problems here as well, life is much much better for us since we moved here in 05.  I love the States, but I fear many have no clue what your future will be.  If you think you&#8217;re hitting the bottom, wake up, the slide has just begun. A divided society flirting with fascism has very little chance, unless you the public stands up and demands a change, but having been born and lived 54 years in the States, I do not see it happening. I could go on, but I no longer have the energy. I would suggest more folks study history. Good luck. Oh, the writing is on the wall, it&#8217;s Mandarin!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757578', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Penny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Penny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 01:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is certainly no surprise. Ever since Bush took office we have had to watch our once great nation sink to a depth that no one would have ever believed we could reach. 

We are a laughing stock around the world and for the first time in my 60 years I would be embarssed to travel abroad and be recognized as from the USA.

Until 2000 and the dirty, stolen election, I have always been a very proud citizen, flown the flag, voted in every election, been active in civic affairs. Now I am just waiting for this administration to be replaced and praying and hoping that what comes next will be an improvement. We desperately need honest leadership; men and women with integrity and intelligence. 

I don&#039;t want to lose hope, but the politcal climate in our nation today does not lead one towards optimism.
If the &quot;silent Majority&quot; that is always there will rise up and make themselves heard, perhaps there will be a change back to that nation we once were. I have to keep hoping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is certainly no surprise. Ever since Bush took office we have had to watch our once great nation sink to a depth that no one would have ever believed we could reach. </p>
<p>We are a laughing stock around the world and for the first time in my 60 years I would be embarssed to travel abroad and be recognized as from the USA.</p>
<p>Until 2000 and the dirty, stolen election, I have always been a very proud citizen, flown the flag, voted in every election, been active in civic affairs. Now I am just waiting for this administration to be replaced and praying and hoping that what comes next will be an improvement. We desperately need honest leadership; men and women with integrity and intelligence. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to lose hope, but the politcal climate in our nation today does not lead one towards optimism.<br />
If the &#8220;silent Majority&#8221; that is always there will rise up and make themselves heard, perhaps there will be a change back to that nation we once were. I have to keep hoping.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757405', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we should worry about what others (allegedly) think and not about our own security; and
we should take away property from those who pay less taxes and give it to those who would pay more; and
we should tax everyone who is middle class or above a lot more and redistribute it (after a large bureaucratic cut); and
we should make the govt much larger so almost everyone works for it; and
we should all have low quality govt health care rather than have uninsured wait in the emergency rooms; and
we should make sure we take away everybodyâ€™s right to a gun so the govt will have more control; and
we should elect a knee jerk liberal who can really do some damage to this country; --- I don&#039;t think so.

The left in this country is trying to turn this country into a socialist state - don&#039;t vote for a democrat!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we should worry about what others (allegedly) think and not about our own security; and<br />
we should take away property from those who pay less taxes and give it to those who would pay more; and<br />
we should tax everyone who is middle class or above a lot more and redistribute it (after a large bureaucratic cut); and<br />
we should make the govt much larger so almost everyone works for it; and<br />
we should all have low quality govt health care rather than have uninsured wait in the emergency rooms; and<br />
we should make sure we take away everybodyâ€™s right to a gun so the govt will have more control; and<br />
we should elect a knee jerk liberal who can really do some damage to this country; &#8212; I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>The left in this country is trying to turn this country into a socialist state &#8211; don&#8217;t vote for a democrat!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757375', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: truth4all</title>
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		<dc:creator>truth4all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 00:00:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment by laurn bedingfield â€” April 18, 2007 @ 4:15 pm:

&quot;Folks when the U.S. does the moral or right thing as in the
 case of Kuwait, we get by and large the respect that we 
deserve&quot;

=======================================

Daddy Bush gave Saddam the &quot;green light&quot; to invade Kuwait by telling him that the U.S. would not interfere.  If Saddam knew that Bush was lying and intended to attack Saddam, Saddam would never have invaded Kuwait.

Daddy Bush set Saddam up so that he could redirect the World&#039;s attention away from his son, Neil, who was being attacked for his involvement in a Savings and Loan Banking scandal, and the plan worked perfectly.

Even though Neil was found guilty, almost no one heard about it because all of the talk and attention was on Kuwait and Iraq and Saddam and the nasty, evil &quot;turkey shoot&quot; whereby the U.S. firebombed escaping Iraqis leaving burned body remains which the U.S. soldiers than robbed of wedding rings and whatever else they could steal from the dead bodies.

How many people died and suffered just to keep Neil Bush out of jail and out of the headlines?

Saddam taped the &quot;green light&quot; conversation that he had with Bush&#039;s ambassador to Iraq:

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&lt;b&gt;Transcript of Meeting between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie.&lt;/b&gt; - &lt;b&gt;July 25, 1990&lt;/b&gt; (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait) - Presidential Palace - Baghdad

&lt;b&gt;U.S. Ambassador Glaspie&lt;/b&gt; - I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threats against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship - not confrontation - regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait&#039;s borders?

&lt;b&gt;Saddam Hussein&lt;/b&gt; - As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.

&lt;b&gt;U.S. Ambassador Glaspie&lt;/b&gt; - What solutions would be acceptable?

&lt;b&gt;Saddam Hussein&lt;/b&gt; - If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab - our strategic goal in our war with Iran - we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam&#039;s view, including Kuwait) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States&#039; opinion on this?

&lt;b&gt;U.S. Ambassador Glaspie&lt;/b&gt; - We have no opinion on your Arab - Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960&#039;s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. 

&lt;b&gt;(Saddam smiles)&lt;/b&gt; - On &lt;b&gt;August 2, 1990&lt;/b&gt;, Saddam&#039;s massed troops invade and occupy Kuwait.

Baghdad, &lt;b&gt;September 2, 1990&lt;/b&gt;, U.S. Embassy - One month later, British journalists obtain the above tape and transcript of the Saddam - Glaspie meeting of July 25, 1990. Astounded, they confront Ms. Glaspie as she leaves the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

&lt;b&gt;Journalist 1&lt;/b&gt; - Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?

(&lt;b&gt;Ambassador Glaspie does not respond&lt;/b&gt;)

&lt;b&gt;Journalist 2&lt;/b&gt; - You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait) but you didn&#039;t warn him not to. You didn&#039;t tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite - that America was not associated with Kuwait.

&lt;b&gt;Journalist 1&lt;/b&gt; - You encouraged this aggression - his invasion. What were you thinking?

&lt;b&gt;U.S. Ambassador Glaspie&lt;/b&gt; - Obviously, I didn&#039;t think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.
 
&lt;b&gt;Journalist 1&lt;/b&gt; - You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part of their country!

&lt;b&gt;Journalist 1&lt;/b&gt; - America  green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay - that the U.S. would not oppose a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands (including Bubiyan) - the territories claimed by Iraq?

(&lt;b&gt;Ambassador Glaspie says nothing&lt;/b&gt; as a limousine door closed behind her and the car drives off.)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ARTICLE5/april.html&lt;/a&gt;

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment by laurn bedingfield â€” April 18, 2007 @ 4:15 pm:</p>
<p>&#8220;Folks when the U.S. does the moral or right thing as in the<br />
 case of Kuwait, we get by and large the respect that we<br />
deserve&#8221;</p>
<p>=======================================</p>
<p>Daddy Bush gave Saddam the &#8220;green light&#8221; to invade Kuwait by telling him that the U.S. would not interfere.  If Saddam knew that Bush was lying and intended to attack Saddam, Saddam would never have invaded Kuwait.</p>
<p>Daddy Bush set Saddam up so that he could redirect the World&#8217;s attention away from his son, Neil, who was being attacked for his involvement in a Savings and Loan Banking scandal, and the plan worked perfectly.</p>
<p>Even though Neil was found guilty, almost no one heard about it because all of the talk and attention was on Kuwait and Iraq and Saddam and the nasty, evil &#8220;turkey shoot&#8221; whereby the U.S. firebombed escaping Iraqis leaving burned body remains which the U.S. soldiers than robbed of wedding rings and whatever else they could steal from the dead bodies.</p>
<p>How many people died and suffered just to keep Neil Bush out of jail and out of the headlines?</p>
<p>Saddam taped the &#8220;green light&#8221; conversation that he had with Bush&#8217;s ambassador to Iraq:</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><b>Transcript of Meeting between Iraqi President, Saddam Hussein and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq, April Glaspie.</b> &#8211; <b>July 25, 1990</b> (Eight days before the August 2, 1990 Iraqi Invasion of Kuwait) &#8211; Presidential Palace &#8211; Baghdad</p>
<p><b>U.S. Ambassador Glaspie</b> &#8211; I have direct instructions from President Bush to improve our relations with Iraq. We have considerable sympathy for your quest for higher oil prices, the immediate cause of your confrontation with Kuwait. (pause) As you know, I lived here for years and admire your extraordinary efforts to rebuild your country. We know you need funds. We understand that, and our opinion is that you should have the opportunity to rebuild your country. (pause) We can see that you have deployed massive numbers of troops in the south. Normally that would be none of our business, but when this happens in the context of your threats against Kuwait, then it would be reasonable for us to be concerned. For this reason, I have received an instruction to ask you, in the spirit of friendship &#8211; not confrontation &#8211; regarding your intentions: Why are your troops massed so very close to Kuwait&#8217;s borders?</p>
<p><b>Saddam Hussein</b> &#8211; As you know, for years now I have made every effort to reach a settlement on our dispute with Kuwait. There is to be a meeting in two days; I am prepared to give negotiations only this one more brief chance. (pause) When we (the Iraqis) meet (with the Kuwaitis) and we see there is hope, then nothing will happen. But if we are unable to find a solution, then it will be natural that Iraq will not accept death.</p>
<p><b>U.S. Ambassador Glaspie</b> &#8211; What solutions would be acceptable?</p>
<p><b>Saddam Hussein</b> &#8211; If we could keep the whole of the Shatt al Arab &#8211; our strategic goal in our war with Iran &#8211; we will make concessions (to the Kuwaitis). But, if we are forced to choose between keeping half of the Shatt and the whole of Iraq (i.e., in Saddam&#8217;s view, including Kuwait) then we will give up all of the Shatt to defend our claims on Kuwait to keep the whole of Iraq in the shape we wish it to be. (pause) What is the United States&#8217; opinion on this?</p>
<p><b>U.S. Ambassador Glaspie</b> &#8211; We have no opinion on your Arab &#8211; Arab conflicts, such as your dispute with Kuwait. Secretary (of State James) Baker has directed me to emphasize the instruction, first given to Iraq in the 1960&#8217;s, that the Kuwait issue is not associated with America. </p>
<p><b>(Saddam smiles)</b> &#8211; On <b>August 2, 1990</b>, Saddam&#8217;s massed troops invade and occupy Kuwait.</p>
<p>Baghdad, <b>September 2, 1990</b>, U.S. Embassy &#8211; One month later, British journalists obtain the above tape and transcript of the Saddam &#8211; Glaspie meeting of July 25, 1990. Astounded, they confront Ms. Glaspie as she leaves the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.</p>
<p><b>Journalist 1</b> &#8211; Are the transcripts (holding them up) correct, Madam Ambassador?</p>
<p>(<b>Ambassador Glaspie does not respond</b>)</p>
<p><b>Journalist 2</b> &#8211; You knew Saddam was going to invade (Kuwait) but you didn&#8217;t warn him not to. You didn&#8217;t tell him America would defend Kuwait. You told him the opposite &#8211; that America was not associated with Kuwait.</p>
<p><b>Journalist 1</b> &#8211; You encouraged this aggression &#8211; his invasion. What were you thinking?</p>
<p><b>U.S. Ambassador Glaspie</b> &#8211; Obviously, I didn&#8217;t think, and nobody else did, that the Iraqis were going to take all of Kuwait.</p>
<p><b>Journalist 1</b> &#8211; You thought he was just going to take some of it? But, how could you? Saddam told you that, if negotiations failed, he would give up his Iran (Shatt al Arab waterway) goal for the Whole of Iraq, in the shape we wish it to be. You know that includes Kuwait, which the Iraqis have always viewed as an historic part of their country!</p>
<p><b>Journalist 1</b> &#8211; America  green-lighted the invasion. At a minimum, you admit signaling Saddam that some aggression was okay &#8211; that the U.S. would not oppose a grab of the al-Rumeilah oil field, the disputed border strip and the Gulf Islands (including Bubiyan) &#8211; the territories claimed by Iraq?</p>
<p>(<b>Ambassador Glaspie says nothing</b> as a limousine door closed behind her and the car drives off.)</p>
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		<title>By: mongo carnivore</title>
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		<dc:creator>mongo carnivore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>99% of what you can buy in Wallyworld is made in Asia as it is way cheaper to do so. With our huge military budget dragging us down,why the hell don&#039;t we get all the warplanes and missiles made over there?? We could probably get them 80% cheaper and be able to buy a lot more, and then really go to town on the non-coalition members.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>99% of what you can buy in Wallyworld is made in Asia as it is way cheaper to do so. With our huge military budget dragging us down,why the hell don&#8217;t we get all the warplanes and missiles made over there?? We could probably get them 80% cheaper and be able to buy a lot more, and then really go to town on the non-coalition members.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757199', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: nutty4tahoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>nutty4tahoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 23:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to comment #67, above, our current unelected president&#039;s grandfather was a banker widely known to be a financier of the Nazi Germany war effort during the WWII years.  Your comment is probably closer to the mark than you realized....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to comment #67, above, our current unelected president&#8217;s grandfather was a banker widely known to be a financier of the Nazi Germany war effort during the WWII years.  Your comment is probably closer to the mark than you realized&#8230;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757151', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: mom57</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom57</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:37:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jefferson would spin in his grave!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jefferson would spin in his grave!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757086', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: skizzzziks</title>
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		<dc:creator>skizzzziks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 22:23:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These Bush supports would have made good Germans.  They do not want liberty and democracy, they want an iron fist.  They want absolute, lock-step totalitarian rule. They are not patriots, they are simple-minded fanatics. They pledge allegiance not to America but to The Republican Party. (And yes, there is a difference.) And they are not worth our time. Please, please, please, could we just ignore them and not afford them the dignity of a reply?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These Bush supports would have made good Germans.  They do not want liberty and democracy, they want an iron fist.  They want absolute, lock-step totalitarian rule. They are not patriots, they are simple-minded fanatics. They pledge allegiance not to America but to The Republican Party. (And yes, there is a difference.) And they are not worth our time. Please, please, please, could we just ignore them and not afford them the dignity of a reply?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3757055', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Jonster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True.  We should not be the world&#039;s policeman, but I bet they still want us as the world&#039;s savior -- aid, non-military intervention, etc.  

Given the world&#039;s disgust with what they see as our role in the world, I say we stick to a plan of strict isolationism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True.  We should not be the world&#8217;s policeman, but I bet they still want us as the world&#8217;s savior &#8212; aid, non-military intervention, etc.  </p>
<p>Given the world&#8217;s disgust with what they see as our role in the world, I say we stick to a plan of strict isolationism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756925', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, so the world doesn&#039;t like us?  Let me think of some reasons.

1&gt; Most of the world outside Europe consists of corrupt, incompetent and despotic oligarchies (Castro, Chavez, Mugabe...) who need a scapegoat for their socioeconomic failures and whose status quo is threatened by all this American talk of democracy/regime change/free trade.

2&gt; European societies are mostly old, tired, passive and cowardly ones  who were making piles of dirty, bloody money off US enemies like Saddam Hussein, just like they&#039;re currently making piles of it off of Iran.   Of course they resent Bush endangering their gravy train.

I do agree the US is too much of a world cop.  If the US deposing Saddam Hussein was immoral and illegal then Darfur is definitely NOT a US problem.  Let the French take care of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, so the world doesn&#8217;t like us?  Let me think of some reasons.</p>
<p>1&gt; Most of the world outside Europe consists of corrupt, incompetent and despotic oligarchies (Castro, Chavez, Mugabe&#8230;) who need a scapegoat for their socioeconomic failures and whose status quo is threatened by all this American talk of democracy/regime change/free trade.</p>
<p>2&gt; European societies are mostly old, tired, passive and cowardly ones  who were making piles of dirty, bloody money off US enemies like Saddam Hussein, just like they&#8217;re currently making piles of it off of Iran.   Of course they resent Bush endangering their gravy train.</p>
<p>I do agree the US is too much of a world cop.  If the US deposing Saddam Hussein was immoral and illegal then Darfur is definitely NOT a US problem.  Let the French take care of it.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756895', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that surprising that most countries feel that way. Personally I wouldn&#039;t trust this administration with &lt;strong&gt;safety scissors&lt;/strong&gt; let alone policing the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that surprising that most countries feel that way. Personally I wouldn&#8217;t trust this administration with <strong>safety scissors</strong> let alone policing the world.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756708', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: laurn bedingfield</title>
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		<dc:creator>laurn bedingfield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks when the U.S. does the moral or right thing as in the case of Kuwait and Bosnia, we get by and large the respect that we deserve nation wise BUT, when our country attacks a country on slim pretexts and outright lies and the cherry picking of intel, the government and the MSM enablers,hangerson and the neocon bunch in general deserve the distrust and outright haterd that is heaped on them. Don&#039;t take the study so personally as the fact is the people of the U.S. are fairly well respected and are looked upon as the victims of unscrupulous poloticians,lobbyists,pseudo christian theocratic neocon thugs and their ilk.
P.S. We the people are no longer the government, just it&#039;s taxpayers and serfs with little to no input and definately last in line of influence to the rest.
Don&#039;t believe it? I bet you believe the fiction of the &quot;rapture&quot; and completely discount &quot;evolution&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks when the U.S. does the moral or right thing as in the case of Kuwait and Bosnia, we get by and large the respect that we deserve nation wise BUT, when our country attacks a country on slim pretexts and outright lies and the cherry picking of intel, the government and the MSM enablers,hangerson and the neocon bunch in general deserve the distrust and outright haterd that is heaped on them. Don&#8217;t take the study so personally as the fact is the people of the U.S. are fairly well respected and are looked upon as the victims of unscrupulous poloticians,lobbyists,pseudo christian theocratic neocon thugs and their ilk.<br />
P.S. We the people are no longer the government, just it&#8217;s taxpayers and serfs with little to no input and definately last in line of influence to the rest.<br />
Don&#8217;t believe it? I bet you believe the fiction of the &#8220;rapture&#8221; and completely discount &#8220;evolution&#8221;.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Ken Jackson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spartacus,

In my country, the only expats walking around the beaches are either very old, or very rich......   Those of us who have immigrated are as native as the locals and all of us are Socialist or Green...  I have heard those who return to the USA saying how very glad they are when they return from their trip...  They all say, &quot;The USA is a nice place to visit, but I woldn&#039;t want to live there.&quot;

As, we don&#039;t let in very many americans (under 200), and if you get a &quot;green card&quot; as you call them, it doesn&#039;t allow you to work.  In order to work as a registered alian, you must write the government stating the job, its requirements, the company or owner of the company&#039;s name, address and telephone #...  If the job is fillable by a local, then you will not get it approved....

When I first immigrated, I was given a 2 year temporary card and during this period, it was forbidden for me to take any employment what so ever....  After I had learned the language during that period, I was given a 5 year card, and was allowed to work only after I asked the government for permission....

I personally didn&#039;t find anything wrong with this arrangement, after all I was the guest in &lt;b&gt; their &lt;/b&gt; country.  When I became a citizen, I found that I could work anywhere I wanted....   

Also since we&#039;re so small, we all know our representatives in the assembly and also the leaders are accessable to everyone...  One vote can and usually does mean the difference between being elected and being defeated....

Here are a few of the reasons I made my decision

No Income or Land Taxes
No Fishing Licenses or Limits
No Pistols allowed and all rifles are kept locked at the police station.
We have less than 1 murder every 10 years
I can walk about any time of the day or night and not worry about my safety...
The honesty, compassion, and warmth of the people...
We don&#039;t call it Paradise for nothing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spartacus,</p>
<p>In my country, the only expats walking around the beaches are either very old, or very rich&#8230;&#8230;   Those of us who have immigrated are as native as the locals and all of us are Socialist or Green&#8230;  I have heard those who return to the USA saying how very glad they are when they return from their trip&#8230;  They all say, &#8220;The USA is a nice place to visit, but I woldn&#8217;t want to live there.&#8221;</p>
<p>As, we don&#8217;t let in very many americans (under 200), and if you get a &#8220;green card&#8221; as you call them, it doesn&#8217;t allow you to work.  In order to work as a registered alian, you must write the government stating the job, its requirements, the company or owner of the company&#8217;s name, address and telephone #&#8230;  If the job is fillable by a local, then you will not get it approved&#8230;.</p>
<p>When I first immigrated, I was given a 2 year temporary card and during this period, it was forbidden for me to take any employment what so ever&#8230;.  After I had learned the language during that period, I was given a 5 year card, and was allowed to work only after I asked the government for permission&#8230;.</p>
<p>I personally didn&#8217;t find anything wrong with this arrangement, after all I was the guest in <b> their </b> country.  When I became a citizen, I found that I could work anywhere I wanted&#8230;.   </p>
<p>Also since we&#8217;re so small, we all know our representatives in the assembly and also the leaders are accessable to everyone&#8230;  One vote can and usually does mean the difference between being elected and being defeated&#8230;.</p>
<p>Here are a few of the reasons I made my decision</p>
<p>No Income or Land Taxes<br />
No Fishing Licenses or Limits<br />
No Pistols allowed and all rifles are kept locked at the police station.<br />
We have less than 1 murder every 10 years<br />
I can walk about any time of the day or night and not worry about my safety&#8230;<br />
The honesty, compassion, and warmth of the people&#8230;<br />
We don&#8217;t call it Paradise for nothing!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756652', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal and proud of it!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal and proud of it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:08:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>60) Can someone come up with a vision and a platform that will reconcile americans and the world or will you have to wait another 40 years for the pendulum to swing back?

Kucinich</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>60) Can someone come up with a vision and a platform that will reconcile americans and the world or will you have to wait another 40 years for the pendulum to swing back?</p>
<p>Kucinich<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756651', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Liberal and proud of it!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liberal and proud of it!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 20:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We CAN NOT be both super nationalistic, Pax America U.S.A. all the way AND &quot;leader of the free world&quot;. These are two mutually exclusive duties. In one we, as Bolton and the Neocon cabal has done, wreck the worlds economies through obscene World Bank and NAFTA rules for our use of strong arm polices. In the other, we seek to lead &quot;the poor and huddled masses&quot; and attempt to create the most perfect form of democracy we can (hint, we ain&#039;t doing so well on that one either) and do what&#039;s best for the majority of people on Earth. At certain times (say during WW2) these aims came in line with each other, but in the last decade they have diverged to such a massive degree as to become mutually exclusive. Americans have a deep psychological desire to lead, to be &quot;liked&quot;, but we have been criminally negligent in actually effectively leading. 

Choose one America. Shall we lead by proud example as our founders dreamed of? Or shall we care only for &quot;the fatherland&quot;, lining the pockets of our rich through the blood of the worlds poor. As an American, I know my choice.  

End the occupation, hold our own war criminals accountable, re-ratify the Geneva Conventions, and do our damnedest to fix what WE broke, and perhaps we will find our place again as leader of the Free World again. But I believe we have just been fired from that particular post.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We CAN NOT be both super nationalistic, Pax America U.S.A. all the way AND &#8220;leader of the free world&#8221;. These are two mutually exclusive duties. In one we, as Bolton and the Neocon cabal has done, wreck the worlds economies through obscene World Bank and NAFTA rules for our use of strong arm polices. In the other, we seek to lead &#8220;the poor and huddled masses&#8221; and attempt to create the most perfect form of democracy we can (hint, we ain&#8217;t doing so well on that one either) and do what&#8217;s best for the majority of people on Earth. At certain times (say during WW2) these aims came in line with each other, but in the last decade they have diverged to such a massive degree as to become mutually exclusive. Americans have a deep psychological desire to lead, to be &#8220;liked&#8221;, but we have been criminally negligent in actually effectively leading. </p>
<p>Choose one America. Shall we lead by proud example as our founders dreamed of? Or shall we care only for &#8220;the fatherland&#8221;, lining the pockets of our rich through the blood of the worlds poor. As an American, I know my choice.  </p>
<p>End the occupation, hold our own war criminals accountable, re-ratify the Geneva Conventions, and do our damnedest to fix what WE broke, and perhaps we will find our place again as leader of the Free World again. But I believe we have just been fired from that particular post&#8230;..<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3756644', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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