New Rasmussen poll finds that 50 percent of the American public believe that “in the long run, the U.S. mission in Iraq will be seen as a failure,” compared to just 33 percent who believe it will be a success.

A new CNN poll also finds that “69 percent of Americans say things are going badly for the United States in Iraq. That’s the most negative assessment yet recorded.”
Good luck riding those poll numbers into the presidency, GOP contenders. This little experiment in democracy has and will cost you dearly.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:32 pmSo?
April 18th, 2007 at 3:33 pmI’d like to round up all these 33%ers, put them in some classrooms, and bring in some deprogrammers to try to reverse the awful damage that FOX ‘news’ has done to this country.
Guaranteed, if everyone was actually informed about the situation in Iraq, you see that 33% drop to 3% PDQ.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:34 pmYour non-caring about this is great for the progressive cause. Thank you for helping.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:36 pmBush has already spent $340 billion on Iraq War thus far, but who got the profit? People in Iraq? They are shouting loud that “American, get out!†while Bush wants to send 15,000 more troops. That’s why we can’t support Bush and his supporters.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:37 pmIt is clear that the military solution is not working. Why don’t they try to bring peace by sending humanitarian aid instead of troops and weapons?
According to The Borgen Project, it only costs $19 billion to end global poverty and hunger. Compare to the amount Bush spent on his “War on Terror”, this annual cost is very little.
I hope our next political leader will make a commitment to the UN Millennium Development Goals which will end global poverty and starvation. It is really not so hard if we are truly willing to make a change and bring peace to the world not by military solution but by humanitarian aid.
No shit.
Great answers Spudge & TMM!
Better get to class. Later, ya’ll!
April 18th, 2007 at 3:39 pmSo? from the man who wants to know why students don’t rise up but doesn’t comprehend the disaster that has become Iraq. So indeed.
So why haven’t you taken a better look at yourself and your moral stances? So why do you think you have anything relevent to say.
So there chicken.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:45 pmSo?
Comment by Patrick1 — April 18, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
Patrick-stupidest-ever!
April 18th, 2007 at 3:47 pmFor a big ol’ pussy like Patrick1 to call other cowardly is quite amazing. He is the biggest coward on this blog. He doesn’t have the balls to join the military and wants others to fight his battles for him. Worthless sack of liquid crap.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:48 pmHow many of this 33% are Haliburton stockholders? How many are willfully ignorant (dittoheads, P1, etc.) and how many are so stupid they don’t understand the question?
April 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pmThe worse it gets, the better it’s working. Where is Orwell when we need him? “The surge is working” seems destined to become the the greatest example of newspeak ever. Meanwhile, Iraqis keep dying.
April 18th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI’m having trouble wrapping my brain around the poll numbers that show 50% STILL don’t understand that “failure” in Iraq is inevitable, even if we declare victory and leave. What is it that people can’t see? After 4 years nobody can even define “victory”, so how is it possible to win ?
April 18th, 2007 at 3:55 pmHistory, if we survive the neocons long enough to have a history, will certainly comdemn the actions of this government.
I have this feeling that the 30%ers are really 20%ers or less, and that the corporate MSM is pushing the appearance of national stability for ‘our own good’.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:04 pmYeah, so? Bush, and perhaps even Patrick1, believe in 50 years this great experiment in democracy will be viewed as a spectacular success. Bush, of course, is wrong. Just like I don’t believe God has any inkling that Bush believes God put him on earth do pull this shit. But, who cares? Posterity is not what ‘war’ is suppose to be about. Least not in this great nation.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:07 pmNew headline: Conservatives don’t care if Iraq is a failure. cite: Patrick1.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:08 pmSo what? Clinton, Pelosi, and Carter’s poll numbers are worser.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI’m still very worried about the 40%. What 40%? The difference between support for the war now and support in 2003. I can’t recall (famous words) reading a single document or opinion from anyone who was knowledgable about the arab middle east, who didn’t predict the current state of affairs. There were thoughtful people (20-30%) who were horrified, and the rest bought it hook, line and sinker. Conclusion? This will happen again unless we figure out how to stop or limit fraud in politics. The current 30%? They’re the same group that still supported Nixon when he was forced to resign. Ineducable.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:18 pmTMM I think the poll’s are realy around 9% that support the killer in charge…Know lot’s of republican’s, the old style conservatives not neo-con’s and they are coming over to the dem’s and just shaking their head’s in disbeliefe of this terrible lieing, war-mongers administration…Their opinion is there will be a 3rd party to replace the old conservatives and history (if there is any) will paint a terrible picture of what this bunch has done…One told me today”if it get’s any worse these people (reich winger’s will be cave dweller’s” after 2008″..He refered to them as bush people, like living in the bushes…..Blessings
April 18th, 2007 at 4:22 pmWell said John S.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:25 pmOf course it will be viewed as a failure – it already is so.
Bush&Co still cannot define victory. Nor can they define the ever-changing mission. Nor can they define the enemy.
Will someone ask Bush, who does he see as surrendering in this war he believes he will “win.”
Meanwhile, 3311 are dead, thousands more wounded, billions spent, infrastructure – from health care to schools to roads and mass transportation – is being neglected and unfunded, leaving us even more vulnerable.
This is a failure now and it will be a long time in reversing.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:25 pmIt already is considered an abysmal failure so what can change it? Obviously, the more protracted it becomes, the greater the failure it becomes so, if anything, it may be viewed as even more of a horrendous failure than it already is. BTW, what is the “nth degree of failure”? Failing failure…..failed failure….or simply unequivocal failure??
April 18th, 2007 at 4:27 pmSo what’s the point? Once something has been deemed a “failure”, then the surge becomes the “surged failure” atop the “already failed failure”. It’s a foregone conclusion that it’s already a huge failure so how much further can one go? When a machine fails, it’s kaput! This war is kaput, too.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:29 pmI suppose the history books will make “failure” synonymous with George W. Bush.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:30 pmIt’s already a failure because you can’t say that it has profited America in any way.
The only reason troops are still in Iraq is so that Bush can save face. Americans will have to continue to die so that he can pretend he hasn’t already lost. But he has already lost and everyone knows it.
Only two kinds of people want us to stay in Iraq: Republicans and al Qaeda.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:36 pm.
Most occupations are failures in the long run.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:48 pmIt will be interesting to see how Rove spins Bush’s “legacy” after they leave office. After more bribes, threats, and smears we’ll have: “Bush was the greatest president of this, or any past or future, century but was hindered by obstructionist Democrats. History hereby absolves Bush of all responsibility for his actions, or lack thereof, and lays all blame on Democrats. This is not to say that Bush had any failures.” Next chapter.
April 18th, 2007 at 4:55 pmwhat is success what is failure
to find WMD……… Failure
to hang saddam ……… Success
steal Oil ………. Maybe
commit murder……. Failure
how can anybody know what success and failure is if there is no mission
April 18th, 2007 at 6:02 pmPls stay in iraq! pleeeassse stay in iraq!!! pleeeeeaassssse stay in iraq.
Please don’t tackle health care, education or re-build New Orleans, please just stay in iraq and become a failed state back home!
And, oh, please change your constitution so that Bush can win another term!!! Pleeaaaaassssseeeee!!!
Hahahahaahahahaahahaha!
And please attack Iran while you’re at it.
Hahahahaahahahahahahaha!
April 19th, 2007 at 6:39 amYou post a lot of opinion polls here about people’s opinions are on the Iraq war and Bush’s handling of it.
Is there a 2nd reason to post this poll other than to indicate that all other polls are clearly worthless ?
After all when you have 50% who say they think Iraq will historically be viewed as a failure, you also have 50% who don’t say this.
WTF kind of issue can you come to a conclusion about if the prospects of success/failure in Iraq isn’t clear enough ?
What issue can people offer an informed opinion on if Iraq isn’t well enough covered to allow them to achieve this ?
The moon landing ? Hows the opinion on the success/failure of that rating ?
If an advert came on the TV saying that 50% of people think brushing teeth is beneficial for oral hygeine this doesn’t indicate anything other than half of people are clearly fkn retarded and any poll of them is worthless.
April 19th, 2007 at 10:06 amAll responses on this page are overly simplistic. I recently got back from Baghdad after a one year tour. Many Iraqis do want us to stay, fearing the enormous bloodshed that will take place if we leave too soon (yes, it can get worse than it is). Others want us too leave so they can impose their version of the future of Iraq on the rest of the country (there are many versions…most not good) All who say it cannot be a US military solution is correct (as stated by every general since Sanchez). All the US military can do is buy time for the Iraqi governemnt and security forces to get organized. The verdict is still out if this will happen. Pretty weak showing so far, but small signs of progress. The surge (hasnt really started yet…troops not in place until June) is really the last effort. At a certain point we will have to say “yes, they are going to make this work….let’s stick with them” or “No, this wont work. Save as many good Iraqis and protect the Kurds and fall back” Then, unfortunatly, the real killing will begin.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:26 pm