Iraqis ‘Curse’ U.S. Security Plan Following Deadliest Day Since Escalation Began
Iraqis ‘Curse’ U.S. Security Plan Following Deadliest Day Since Escalation Began
Yesterday was the deadliest day since the escalation strategy began, resulting in the deaths of over 200 people. A car bomb killed 140 in a single blast at the Sadriyah marketplace, making it the deadliest single such car bomb attack since the US-led invasion four years ago. Many Iraqis today are expressing their outrage over the impact that escalation is having on their lives:
“The security plan has big shortcomings. Since such incidents reoccurred, security should have been tightened. There is negligence,” said Naseer al-Ani, a Sunni Arab MP from the Iraqi Islamic Party.
“After two months of the security plan in the hot areas of the city, the attacks have moved to the cold, quiet areas to make them hot, while the hot areas burn,” said [Iraqi parliament member] Nasar al-Rubaie.
Aljazeera.net reported that locals “cursed at the security plan of the prime pinister” in the scene of the bombings. The website added that when Iraqi Army units appeared on the scene, outraged locals hurled insults at the soldiers and chased them out of the area. A US Army patrol entered the district shortly afterwards, only to be received by stones and slugs thrown by the residents. The American force withdrew from the scene as well.
“Where is the government? Where is the security plan?” [65-year-old Abu Adnan] raged, while bystanders crowded to see the three metre (yard) wide and two metre deep hole ripped out of the black tarmac by the force of the car bomb.
“How could anyone bring a car bomb to this place? What were those innocents guilty of?” [28-year-old Imad Basim] demanded. “Where is the government and its security plan?”
“The government is talking about the security plan but dozens of people are dying every day. No one is protecting us,” Sabah Haider, 42, told Reuters as he stood beside a dozen incinerated minibuses.
Rahim Ali, also in Sadriya, said: “The Americans say they are here to protect the Iraqi people but they are doing nothing.”
The increasing presence of the U.S. occupation is fueling a bloody cycle of violence: it motivates terrorists to carry out attacks; the locals blame the attacks on the U.S.; the terrorists then find a new recruiting pool willing to carry out new attacks.
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but…but…but…the augmentation is working!
April 19th, 2007 at 12:01 pmI take it that thinkprogress.org believes that there was no bloody cycle of violence before the USA went into Iraq, eh?
“The increasing presence of the U.S. occupation is fueling a bloody cycle of violence: it motivates terrorists to carry out attacks; the locals blame the attacks on the U.S.; the terrorists then find a new recruiting pool willing to carry out new attacks.”
this statement is pure and utter opinion from individuals that want the USA out of Iraq immediatly, but i am sure they wouldn’t have a problem putting troops in Darfur.
thinkprogress.org, you can spin all you want, but you are wrong.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:02 pmThe Mahdi Army provided protection for the Shia neighborhoods that the Iraqi police and US forces can’t. by targeting Sadr we have in fact made them, the Shia much less safe.
A cynic might think that that was part of the plan from the start.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:04 pmThe problem is you libs want the surge to fail. TP would never post on the successes of the surge, even if all of the insurgent leaders were killed. The only post the negative, to have posters here have a big anti-American circle jerk.
It’s disgusting.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmso you quote 7 Iraqis and you claim that this is all of Iraq? how does thinkprogress.org know that this are not Al-Qaeda members sent out to sell this propaganda? how does thinkprogress.org know that these are not terrorists who want the USA out and are using places like thinkprogress.org to get USA opinion to back them up?
thinkprogress.org, did you do research on any of the individuals you quoted? who are they? where do they come from? what do they do for a living? are they terrorists? how do you know?
or did you just put up quotes that serve your political purpose and you have ZERO idea as to who you were quoting?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:05 pmThe Cycle of Death … one heck of a job there republicans… now that is something you can really tell your children and grand children about….
April 19th, 2007 at 12:06 pmWhat a bunch of ingrates! When we get your cotton pickin’ oil, we’ll leave!
April 19th, 2007 at 12:06 pmBut did the Iraqis show any concern over Virginia Tech? Isn’t that the least they could do?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:06 pmFaiz,
Escalation is not a strategy.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:08 pmBut, but , but in six months, it will be successful. . . .
April 19th, 2007 at 12:08 pmBecause they would be lying stuper fu*k.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:08 pmWHAT?!?!?!?!?!
It’s not working? I don’t believe it. (hope the sarcasm is obvious)
April 19th, 2007 at 12:09 pmSays our new daily troll. Good luck trying to get any of the people here to drink your Kool-aide troll.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:10 pmWhy not, you take the word of one dumb ass to be reality.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:11 pmYes and the market Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham visited to buy cheap rugs was blown to bits and most of the merchants were killed or maimed.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:12 pmfirehead,
exactly, places like thinkprogress.org and most of the people that post here hate President Bush so much and Republicans so much that they pray for any plan in Iraq to fail. Their hate for republicans is so great that they could careless that if in the process of trying to destroy the Republican Party and Presidents, they also help destroy a nation.
Yes, many liberals don’t want to surge to work because then Bush will be seen as a hero and most Liberals can’t have that.
They care more about getting into power in Jan. 2009 than they care about Iraq being stable and safe place.
Most Liberal outlets have done everythign possible to turn opinion about the Iraq War against the President.
I have quite a few friends in Iraq and they all claim that while things are not perfect it is no where near the mess that the media and places like thinkprogress.org claim it is.
but no liberal will believe that, believing that means giving President Bush credit and their hate will not allow them to do this.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:12 pmSpudge_Boy,
no need for me on trying to get you to drink my Kool-Aid, you already drink the left wing, hate Bush, ,don’t want to win in Iraq Kool-Aid…..
and I take the word of my siblings and friends serving in Iraq over the words of thinkprogress.org and any other media outlet.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pmthinkprogress.org, you can spin all you want, but you are wrong.
Comment by j.j
What a misinformed person… Saddam was the only one allowed to use violence before the American invasion of aggression.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pmYankee Go Home! A slogan from the past is born again.
What’s with America’s obsession with saving people? Messianic fever?? The White Man’s Burden???
Bush said the surge had to work. Even though he’d tried an escalation twice before. Liberals didn’t want the surge to fail, they just knew it would fail. Oddly, it’s liberals who are being realists and not looking at Iraq through rose-colored glasses.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:14 pmComment by firehead
Then why dont you post all the “wins” I mean hell I am sure it is all over by now and you guys “won” … so post it…
April 19th, 2007 at 12:15 pmRedneck and J.J.,
Do you think we could turn this thing around in Iraq if we arm them all?
I keep hearing that we would lower the amount of violence in our own country if we were all armed.
What do you think? Could you sign up for that? More guns would make it better right?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pm“The Cycle of Death … one heck of a job there republicans… now that is something you can really tell your children and grand children about….
Comment by ggibson — April 19, 2007 @ 12:06 pm”
so you mean to tell me that no Republican voted for the Iraq War, really? wow…..you might want to tell that to Kerry, Hillary, and the majority of the Democratic Party that voted for the war in Iraq……what did they know that you don’t, eh?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:16 pmI meant firehead and j.j.
sorry Redneck
April 19th, 2007 at 12:17 pmA 7th escalation in 4 years is NOT a plan. It is buying time for Bush to get out of office, so somebody else can clean up his legacy.
And I have a LOT of friends in Iraq who say you and the president and John McCain are lying sacks of liquid crap.
There is also that thing called REALITY, that you people hate so much.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:17 pmand I take the word of my siblings and friends serving in Iraq over the words of thinkprogress.org and any other media outlet.
Comment by j.j
And you regularly do.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:17 pmANd I take the word of my friends and family that are serving in Iraq that say you and your masters are full of sh!t.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:18 pmI keep hearing that we would lower the amount of violence in our own country if we were all armed.
What do you think? Could you sign up for that? More guns would make it better right?
Comment by Crump’s Brother
What an ignorant argument… hopefully you are on the republican side because you would make the left look pretty dumb.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:19 pmJ.J. Walker – Your water just gvot heavier.
Do tell us, with citations, links, report, proof, your CLUSTERF**K is working. Sad you can no longver defend your Failure in Chief.
Are you blogging from Tikrit or Al-Ahnbar today?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:20 pmI have quite a few friends in Iraq and they all claim that while things are not perfect it is no where near the mess that the media and places like thinkprogress.org claim it is. — j.j
I have family there, right now.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:20 pmYou are a lying sack of sh*t.
Comment by j.j
NO Republican and NO Democrat voted for a War… infact there is no war. What WAS voted for was authorization to use force IF IF IF certain stipulations were met… those stipulations were NOT met and Bush commited treason, war crimes, and murder by using military force anyway.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:21 pm“Yankee Go Home! A slogan from the past is born again.
What’s with America’s obsession with saving people? Messianic fever?? The White Man’s Burden???
Bush said the surge had to work. Even though he’d tried an escalation twice before. Liberals didn’t want the surge to fail, they just knew it would fail. Oddly, it’s liberals who are being realists and not looking at Iraq through rose-colored glasses.
Comment by david — April 19, 2007 @ 12:14 pm”
you know, so much misinformation and so many people that are poorly informed and see the news through partisan glasses.
Why don’t you do a bit of research about who was asking for more troops to be sent out to Iraq?
you will be shocked to find that as late as December 2006 Senators like Harry Reid were calling on the President to do a troop escalation!!!!
did you know that? did you? Odly enough, Sen. Reid prefered politics over saving Iraq when Bush agreed with him, when this happened Reid turned against escalation.
I think the only misinformed people here are the left who drink too much of the left wing Kool-Aid and want America to lose not matter what.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:21 pmRule number one for being a republican troll is that you blame sh!t on Democrats always. The word republican should never be typed, ever. Never ever ever ever.
God, I could troll better than you. But, I am not a crazy freak like you.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:22 pmSpudge_Boy,
yeah, the voices in your head telling you that Iraq is a mess are not your siblings and friends serving there……
put down the left wing nut kool aid and you might sound a bit less hateful son.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmPost a link troll. Post some proof to back up your claims, or they are just as empty as your head.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmJ.J. – Truth has a liberal bias.
Last I checked, your Failure in Chief is still the ignorant retard and the sheeple who follow his HISTORICAL COLLOSSAL FAILURE are the nations disgrace.
Spin all you want you will not evade the CRUSHING VERDICT OF HISTORY.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:23 pmTHE SURGE OF DEATH IN BAGHDAD
Thursday 19th of April 2007
by Jay Randal
At least 198 Iraqis were slain in Baghdad, yesterday, as four large bombs exploded across the city, so surge of death is occurring under Pres. Bush’s phony plan.
Surge of death is occurring for American soldiers too, but some in the US Congress are still deaf, dumb, and blind about it, so members intend to fully fund fiasco.
The Bush Regime has willfully gone completely insane, but nobody understands why some members of House and Senate have gone nuts, so war of stupidity continues.
American public are beginning to notice that control of Iraq’s OIL reserves seems to be the sole reason for the misadventure and some in Congress benefit from it.
Sen. Hillary Clinton has stated to the press that if she becomes president, then she intends to keep the troops in Iraq to benefit BIG OIL CEOs making more profits.
Someday the World Court, at the Hague, could indict Pres. Bush and VP Cheney for war crimes, but some Senators like John McCain and Joe Lieberman as well.
(Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
PS: Contact Reps and Senators in DC to end Iraq Fiasco War now!
April 19th, 2007 at 12:24 pmj.j,
Oh god what a moron you are, first off I hate bush because he lied. He and his cronies keep lying.
Where is Osama? This war on terror was about Osama and Alqada, only you morons think Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.
Where is American security at home? Being bought up by corporations, we can’t even provide a safe college campus because Colleges worry more about that tuition fee than the safety of other students.
No sorry there are few liberal news programs now a days. We have corporate controlled media, which happens to lean right.
Bush has been a failure his entire life, one needs to just do a little research, did you think his presidency would be different? Only this time all the money in the world can’t help him and his failed ideals.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:24 pmGod, you are a terrible troll.
Okay, get it straight, the problem with democrats is that they don’t have a single talking point, they are all over the place. Therefore no Kool-Aide.
I shouldn’t have to give you trolling lessons. Didn’t Karl Rove give you the orientation class?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:24 pm“and I take the word of my siblings and friends serving in Iraq over the words of thinkprogress.org and any other media outlet.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:14 pm”
If they have a mindset like you, then thier idea of success is having hundreds killed everyday!!!!
It is YOU who is the one who is filled with hate and is only concerned about a PARTY!!!! It is YOU who is putting PARTY above COUNTRY!!!!
I don’t care WHO is in the WH, as long as it is country before party! However, this CRIMINAL cabal has shown the TRUE colors of the Republican party!!!! Anything for a buck, even selling out your own country!
So….. preytell…… What is good about what is going on in Iraq?????
Don’t give me this “they voted” crap! How many elections did they have for PM??? ONE! How many PM’s have they had????? I believe THREE!!! How does that work?????
April 19th, 2007 at 12:25 pmj.j,
1. Quit answering yourself
April 19th, 2007 at 12:25 pm2. Up your dose
Over 200 Iraqi civilians die and it’s just a passing news item. 32 Americans are killed at Virginia Tech and it’s the lead story with feature coverage and in depth commentary with a name, face, and story put to everone who died. If only each innocent death in Iraq were given such respect, maybe this occupation would end.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pmI know you are but what am I.
You are going to have to step it up a notch if you are going to troll here. Dumb fu*k.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pmSpudge_Boy,
son, little hateful thing, no one is blaming Democrats alone, if Iraq was the mess your little voices tell you, it is to be blamed on BOTH parties since a majority of BOTH parties voted to go to war in Iraq, right?
the sign of a true crazy ideolog, of a lunatic that can’t see beyond parties is one that always blames one party over the other.
The Iraq War would have never happened if a majority of Democrats would have voted against it, right?
c’mon son, you can do the math, or can you oh hateful one?
and you do like projecting who you are and blames others of doing what you do, eh?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:27 pmYou are going to have to step it up a notch if you are going to troll here. Dumb fu*k.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
j.j. is about three years behind the other trolls… he needs to get over to RedState and catch up.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:28 pmFrom the look’s of the photos and the written text there appear’s to be only 7 citizens, non military standing to talk to…What part of genocide don’t you troll’s understand….Bull shit bush started this evil madness and you bought into it, no matter what that makes you a part owner of the killing…Go sign up and fight with and for your evil dictator or STFU you spinless chicken s*its…Blessings to every one else
April 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pmWe need to bring our Troops home NOW. We went into this ILLEGAL WAR for OIL, OIL, OIL and to make Old Bushies and his Cronies Richer. Bush is a total failure. I feel sorry for the people of Iraq that have to endure this each and every day plus our troops being killed.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:29 pmwow, incredible, you liberals who are suppose to be compassionate and open minded are quite hateful.
I take it you guys don’t like to read or hear oppossing points of views, eh?
so much hate, so much anger, I pity you guys, I truly do.
Your hate for Bush and for Republicans blinds any type of intelligence that anyone of you may have. How truly sad.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:32 pmggibson,
I am not a repub. I was making, what obviously was a poor attempt, at irony.
The last couple of days I’ve been hearing righties scream about how the VaTech tragedy would have been averted if everyone had been armed.
So I was trying to show the flaw in the logic by paralleling it to the problems in Iraq. If they think more guns are the answer here, why wouldn’t they think more guns would be the answer there?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:32 pmDear God, please make the escalation fail so that j.j and president Bush will look more stupid than they are. Thank you.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:35 pmAbsolute weak performance by Gonzalez:
Did anyone ever look on the performance reports before putting them on the list? (2 b fired)
I dont know that
Fitzgerald (fired in the middle of the case)?
I dont rember that
thinks ever been talking about fitzgerald with anybody (with rove)?
Gonzalez:no.
Iglesias (with Rove?): voter fraud cases. Communicated this information to Sampson. (dot-not to rove)
Iglesias was his decision.
this man suffers from amnesia syndroms he must have alzheimer. gonzalez is reagan!!!
April 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pmRemoveBush,
are you as hateful as what you type? and do you have any level of education? why the hate son, why?
Iraqis have voted and they voted for one PM, that PM had to step down and someone else was put into place according to their Constitution.
Just if our President dies, is shot, etc, etc the VP takes over. People voted for the PResident right, but someone else could end up in power.
try to keep up with current events before you type stuff that makes you sound quite ignorant and very hateful.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:36 pmMary Popplins,
Illegal war? why because you say so? because the partisan hacks that you listen to and believe tell you so? Please…..
you guys certainly do drink a lot of left wing Kool-Aid.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:37 pmso much hate, so much anger, I pity you guys, I truly do.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Only hateful, violence-loving war-mongers like yourself need pity.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:38 pmFirst of all, you can drop the “Son” thing, because I am probably your age or older, son.
Second, yes, lots of people voted to go inot this war, because they were lied to by somebody that they should have trusted at the time. Hind site is 20/20. If that majority knew then what they know now, they would have never voted that way.
Now should these people have done some research and find out what the people on this blog know? You better believe it. Iraq was doomed to be a failure and there was an outcry from around the world and on this blog that said “Don’t do it”
We were right and now you people think we should just stay the course. We don’t hate Bush because he is a republican. Most of my family are republicans. We hate Bush, because he is a fu*king lying sack of crap that has gotten the country I have served for into the biggest pile of sh!t since Vietnam. It has nothing to do with right and left and everything to do with right and wrong.
Now, step it up. We have debunked all of these 3 year old talking points, 3 years ago.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:39 pmwow, incredible, you liberals who are suppose to be compassionate and open minded are quite hateful. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Not accustomed to tough love? That could explain the poor parenting.
I take it you guys don’t like to read or hear oppossing points of views, eh? Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Funny coming from a conservative, that so can’t stand to hear opposing views, you come here to post the same b*sh*t we can find at any number of sites. I hate to point out junior, but we don’t get to post those ‘opposing’ views at the wingnut sites, yet here you are posting your sh*t.
so much hate, so much anger, I pity you guys, I truly do. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
Sounds like self pity.
Your hate for Bush and for Republicans blinds any type of intelligence that anyone of you may have. How truly sad. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm
More masked self criticism I see.
Your hate of liberals and for the Clintons blinds any type of intelligence that you might have.
See how easy it is to inform you that your hatred shouldn’t be projected on others? Just makes you look st*pid son.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:39 pm“wow, incredible, you liberals who are suppose to be compassionate and open minded are quite hateful.
I take it you guys don’t like to read or hear oppossing points of views, eh?
so much hate, so much anger, I pity you guys, I truly do.
Your hate for Bush and for Republicans blinds any type of intelligence that anyone of you may have. How truly sad.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:32 pm”
Hey DIP$HIT!!!!
Compassionate does not mean roll over and play dead!
When do you draw the line in the sand??? After your mother has been rapped? After your father, or after you have been rapped????
You have absolutely no footing to stand thier and talk about what a party says they stand for when the Republicans have created LARGER government, Intruded into more personal lives, Spent more money, and have utterly DESTROYED the American family!
Don’t preach to someone until YOUR party is practicing what it preaches.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:40 pm“Dear God, please make the escalation fail so that j.j and president Bush will look more stupid than they are. Thank you.
Comment by Little Suzy — April 19, 2007 @ 12:35 pm”
this is a prayer that most Liberals say at night. They hate Bush so much they can’t have Iraq be a success. How truly sad and it shows the true sign of psycopaths. I am embarrassed for you Little Suzy.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:40 pmIllegal war? why because you say so? because the partisan hacks that you listen to and believe tell you so? Please…..
you guys certainly do drink a lot of left wing Kool-Aid.
Comment by j.j
Because the rules written by America after WWII say so.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:41 pmNow, step it up. We have debunked all of these 3 year old talking points, 3 years ago. Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 19, 2007 @ 12:39 pm
Poor j.j. confused ‘alternate-reality’, with alternate point of view… Poor little confused psycho..
April 19th, 2007 at 12:41 pmthen leave you lying sack of shit
April 19th, 2007 at 12:41 pmComment by Crump’s Brother
Sorry.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:42 pmj.j.
Even if the majority of democrats had not voted for the authorization to use force, it still would have passed. The republicans had the majority.
Further, most Dems who voted for the war, have admitted that they feel made a mistake.
THe republicans simply refuse to do that. Even in light of the horrible execution of the war. The way the war was executed alone, is grounds for apologies from all parties involved.
Apologize, and re-deploy.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:42 pmAwww, poor noob troll JJ, obviously still smarting over that political Little Big Horn Massacre the GOP took on November 7, 2006
But hey, it’s all right to cry JJ, really, it is
And maybe if you wish really, REALLY hard, President Jr will somehow rally the US public to his side yet again
Of course, maybe leading a nation into an occupation based on nothing but flat-out lies wasn’t the best course of action for an idiot who couldn’t find oil in Bahrain OR Texas, and failed at every other business he headed as well
Instead, this Administration, infested with draft-dodging, budget-busting ChickenHawks with delusions of grandeur has run the US empire right into the ground faster than anyone else in our history
If you back W, you do NOT back the US military, logically, one cannot back both
And JJ, get your chicken ass over to Iraq if it’s going so swimmingly and is so important a cause you’re willing to troll for, otherwise, like every other ChickenHawk ever in existence, you’re also nothing but a grade A hypocrite
April 19th, 2007 at 12:42 pmDear Goddess, please bring truth and justice to our country,bring forth and uncover all the wrong doer’s for the world to see and most of all bring Peace to the world…So Mote it be…Blessings
April 19th, 2007 at 12:43 pmwow, incredible, you liberals who are suppose to be compassionate and open minded are quite hateful.
I take it you guys don’t like to read or hear oppossing points of views, eh?
so much hate, so much anger, I pity you guys, I truly do.
Your hate for Bush and for Republicans blinds any type of intelligence that anyone of you may have. How truly sad.
Comment by j.j
We have every right to be angry… just as did Americas founding fathers …. just as did the people that couldnt stand seeing slavery in their midst any longer…
Many of us are at the brink of wanting to see you people in prison…
Why did the republicans surrender to the Saudis on 9/12 … over a cigar.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:44 pmPLEASE STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS. IT DOES NO GOOD. DON’T FEED THEM AND THEY WILL GO AWAY.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:45 pmDeath is more disgusting.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:46 pmSpudge_Boy,
Son, little one, you have debunked 3 year old talking points? really? says who, you little voices in your head? you really need to put down your Kool-Aid son, all youa re doing is spewing very old left wing talking points said by many other people before you. Try to be original son.
Secondly, son, so, the party that you support, the Democrats, according to you, voted for the war in Iraq without doing research, eh? this is what you call a responsible party, responsible leadership from your party?
and I thought Bush is an idiot, a chimp, a moron that can barely think for himself…..well of course according to left wing nuts like you, right? so what you are saying that Bush, who you consider an idiot, a moron and a chim was able to lie to the super, duper intelligent Democratic Party? and the Democratic Party believed his lies? so, if we go with what you are saying….that Bush lied, right? and you consider him an idiot, right? what does that make your party who believe the supposed lies of a person you consider an idiot? bigger idiots, morons and chimps…..
c’mon son, you keep on talking about steppipnig it up, but it is you son who needs to step it up, stop with the left wing nut job talking points that have been spewed long before you were born.
c’mon son, you can do it…you have been conditioned to allow others to think for you, now try it….think on your own, you will be amazed at how good it feels to not be told how and when to think, son.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:46 pmA little heads-up for the suffering Iraqis; the ‘Security’ part is meant for oil fields, oil infrastructure, and your puppet Govt.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:46 pmWe will not be leaving Iraq while Mr. Bush is in office unless his pupped Iraqi parliment passes the law he wants that would give 70% of Iraq’s oil profits to US and British oil companies for 30 years. That is why we are there and that is when we will leave under Mr. Bush’s administration.
Impeach Bush/Chaney and bring some sanity back into the world.
I weep for what we have become.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:47 pmAmen, Sharon
April 19th, 2007 at 12:47 pmMiigwetch
ggibson,
anger is one thing, you have every right to dissent and disagree, but the posts here against Bush and Republicans are beyond anger my friend. They full of hate, spite, venom, etc, etc, etc. This is not anger, this is lunacy which is so prevelent in the Democratic Party now a days. JFK, FDR, Harry Truman would be ashamed to see what their party has turned into, a bunch of hateful, spiteful human beings.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:47 pmPoeple like Fireanus think there are still chances to militarily win in Iraq.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:47 pmAnd he thinks we want the surge to fail. It failed before it even started. There was never a chance for the surge to be successful to begin with.
j.j– your old drinking buddy, Henry Kissinger, has already said America has lost in Iraq. It can’t be won militarily. That’s why Bush is skittish when it’s compared to Vietnam. He’s pulling a Nixon. Nixon knew Vietnam was lost in 1972; he only cared about getting reelected and holding off defeat until he was out of the WH.
Sometimes these colors do run! It’s called retreat. And it’s a poor commander who doesn’t know when to cut his losses and run. To fight a losing battle rather than withdraw –as Hitler ordered his Sixth Army to do at Stalingrad– is suicide.
In case you didn’t know it, liberals and progressives love America enough to want to see it remain a world power. They don’t want to see the sun set on America. And they don’t want Baghdad to be America’s Waterloo, Stalingrad, or Dien Bien Phu. It’s the neo-cons who are acting like lemmings and charging over a cliff. “Into the Valley of Death rode the six hundred….”
April 19th, 2007 at 12:48 pm“are you as hateful as what you type? and do you have any level of education? why the hate son, why?
Iraqis have voted and they voted for one PM, that PM had to step down and someone else was put into place according to their Constitution.
Just if our President dies, is shot, etc, etc the VP takes over. People voted for the PResident right, but someone else could end up in power.
try to keep up with current events before you type stuff that makes you sound quite ignorant and very hateful.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:36 pm”
Don’t call me “son” you IGNORANT sack of BUSH!!!
I only hate people like YOU who probably NEVER served and sit there and pretend that YOU know whats best. I hate people like you who project YOUR beliefs onto other people! I hate people like you who want to see America destroyed so thier party can rule forever.
I hate people like you who have destroyed my country because of YOUR hate for other people! So much hate that YOU invade countries that have not threatened us or could threaten us. I hate people like you who have no problems sending other people to do YOUR dirty work, because you are too chicken$hit to do it yourself.
So if you think this is hate, then I guess I am filled with hate. But remember this….. It was YOU, the Republicans, that destroyed my country that put that much hate into me. So when the clashes begin, don’t forget who caused it. YOU!
April 19th, 2007 at 12:48 pmJust put your bedroll by an oil feild, you’ll be safe there.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:48 pm#66…so true…thank you for the reminder.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:49 pmDems cave again
April 19th, 2007 at 12:49 pmGod help us.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/18/AR2007041800253.html
“Death is more disgusting
Comment by Parrotlover77 — April 19, 2007 @ 12:46 pm”
so I take it, Parrotlover77,that you were organizing marches and spewing hate against Saddam Hussein when he was causing 10s of thousands of Iraqis to die, right?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:51 pmRemoveBush,
Son, you are certainly fool of hate. I pity you kid. It must suck to wake up each morning and find out that you are still you.
go spew your hate at someone who cares.
you are a lunatic, son.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:53 pmHey Iraq, if you are not a bunch of college kids then we really don’t give a shite.
And man up over there, okay?!? Geez, we Americans have spoken and we are against this crusa…er…”war”. We, right now, are employing our world leading “tools of democracy” to address this problem and end it.
But first, we have to figure out this Gonzales thing and how these attorneys were fired (see, in America we resolve political differences by ruining someone’s career, not beheading them). And then we have to see how this ties into that Abramoff thing. Which then, hopefully, should shed some light on the processes that allowed for the Plame thing to occur. If we do this right, then we should be able to connect all the dots and finally determine how it was that someone was actually able to delete some emails. Because that is what a compassionate democracy and nation is all about, iPods and Blackberries. Because we hold these truths to be self evident…
“Uh, sir?”
Excuse me a moment. Yes Ms. Flatterbelly.
“Sir, I apologize for the interuption but I could not help but overhear you and I think I have an answer to the email dilemma.”
Excellent. See, you impatient child-like Iraqis, democracy prevails once again. Go ahead Ms. Flatterbelly, enlighten us.
“Well sir, if you look at the keyboard on your computer there is a ‘Delete’ key that, when pressed, causes for whatever you have selected on the screen to be deleted.”
Uh, okay. Thank you Ms. Flatterbelly for your input and I can assure you that we will fully investigate that theory. And to our friends in Iraq, I think you now see why we insisted that you put that provision for “NO FEMALE PRESIDENTES” in your constitution.
Now, as I was saying, we are working diligently to end this thingy in Iraq. But first, we have this pressing matter about the forced spaying/nuetering of pets. The debate is currently center around the point in time, identifiable point in time that is, when an animal converts from being “wild” to that of being a subservient “pet”. First, let’s hear from our distinguished expert from the renowned Council on Human Dominence on how the folks on the other side of this argument are complete traitors…
April 19th, 2007 at 12:54 pmso I take it, Parrotlover77,that you were organizing marches and spewing hate against Saddam Hussein when he was causing 10s of thousands of Iraqis to die, right? Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:51 pm
so I take it, j.j. (nully), that you are organizing marches and spewing hate at Sudan over Darfur?
Wouldn’t want people to know what a hate filled partisan lying hypocritical piece of sh*t you really are, now do we?
April 19th, 2007 at 12:54 pmj.j., firehead, and the rest of the America-haters posting here.
All of the “debate” that goes on here boils down to this:
Bush and the neocon cabal havn’t done much good for our country in terms of the economy, foreign policy, world stature, security, morals, ethics, or honesty. Examples of hypocrisy are multitude. Examples of moral and ethical corruption are multitude. Nefarious motives attributed to the various players would not be rejected by a prudent person. It is not a stretch to determine that there is probable cause to susupect criminality at all levels. It is not a stretch to assume our Constitutional rights are in jepoardy.
You try to argue these facts away.
Your continued insistence that Bushco’s policies would be workin’ hunkey-dory – if only the Democrats would just let them run things as they see fit (and of course, to let them have control of all of the money), is not supported by the Administration’s past performance. Look what happened the last time the American people let them run the show.
Again – you can’t argue these facts away.
Bottom line: The facts do not support your positions.
You are welcome to keep trying.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:55 pmHarry Truman would be heartbroken to see how his country is reviled around the world thanks to the bunch of hateful, spiteful human beings the Repub party has turned into.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
There – I fixed it for you.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:56 pm“and I thought Bush is an idiot, a chimp, a moron that can barely think for himself…..well of course according to left wing nuts like you, right? so what you are saying that Bush, who you consider an idiot, a moron and a chim was able to lie to the super, duper intelligent Democratic Party? and the Democratic Party believed his lies? so, if we go with what you are saying….that Bush lied, right? and you consider him an idiot, right? what does that make your party who believe the supposed lies of a person you consider an idiot? bigger idiots, morons and chimps…..
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:46 pm”
He is….. Why do you think that he does not ask any questions in meetings????? EVERYTHING is over his head……
You make it sound like Bush took what information he had and presented it to the Congress…… NIMROD!
Bush can’t even speak, and you think he’s intelligent??? I’ve seen fungus that has more intelligence than Bush!
As far as your claim:
“Secondly, son, so, the party that you support, the Democrats, according to you, voted for the war in Iraq without doing research, eh? this is what you call a responsible party, responsible leadership from your party?”
So you support a Party that votes for something that they did not investigate either????? NO ONE had acess to information OTHER than what the WH was providing, which was flawed and manipulated to fit the administrations lies.
Now run Forest….. run…..
April 19th, 2007 at 12:56 pmKate Henry @66. You’re right the ability of the trolls to get attention here is maddening.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:56 pmRemoveBush,
son, you are a lunatic. I am laughing at your level of hate. I pity you kid, I truly do.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:56 pmanger is one thing, you have every right to dissent and disagree, but the posts here against Bush and Republicans are beyond anger my friend.
Comment by j.j
Not even close… we are talking TREASON… George Washington was m ore than angry at General Benedict Arnold…
April 19th, 2007 at 12:58 pmValiant,
hmmm…..actually son, I have spoken against what is happening in Darfur and worked with plenty of individuals that have had to left Darfur. It is shameful that once again, just like Rwanda, the world is doing nothing to stop the genocide there.
I take it you are doing something about Darfur, right? that is why you ask if I was doing stuff about it.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:58 pmRemoveBush, Son, you are certainly fool of hate. I pity you kid. It must suck to wake up each morning and find out that you are still you. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
Sorry, but that’s just more self criticism of yourself, son.
go spew your hate at someone who cares. you are a lunatic, son. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:53 pm
Also, more self criticism. The difference is this is a progressive site, and RemoveBush is here because he’s a progressive.
You however have loads of partisan hack sites that will support and even encourage you to spew your hate, and they will ‘care’ what you have to say. Here, we’ve all seen, debunked and are just bored by your partisan hatred, and st*pid comments. You are the lunatic SON, because you actually think anyone is going to be ‘changed’ by you repeating st*pid dead talking points.
Nully, you’re nothing, but a lunatic.
April 19th, 2007 at 12:59 pmFrom TPM: What a sorry, pathetic figure. Now AG Gonzales is claiming that the criticism of his behavior is damaging the DOJ and making it harder for DOJ employees to do their job.
– Josh Marshall
Sums up the junta and it’s followers nicely
April 19th, 2007 at 1:00 pmValiant, hmmm…..actually son, I have spoken against what is happening in Darfur and worked with plenty of individuals that have had to left Darfur. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Doubtful nully. Then again, everything you say is just bizarre sh*t.
It is shameful that once again, just like Rwanda, the world is doing nothing to stop the genocide there. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Yet, you blame the world, not this administration. Hypocrite.
I take it you are doing something about Darfur, right? that is why you ask if I was doing stuff about it. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Ah, the st*pid nully I expect, that ‘doesn’t get it’. If you believe invading Iraq was for ‘humanitarian’ reasons, then why aren’t you screaming at Bush for allowing an ethnic cleansing?
You’re a hypocrite, that’s why I mention it, SON.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:01 pmI don’t do that now, so I’m not sure what your point is. I’m against the death of the innocent in any form. Whether caused by Saddam Hussein or George W. Bush. There is no hypocracy in my stand on this issue.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:01 pmRemoveBush, son, you are a lunatic. I am laughing at your level of hate. I pity you kid, I truly do. Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Typical wingnut, more self criticism – but he’s too st*pid to know it…
April 19th, 2007 at 1:02 pm“…. the posts here against Bush and Republicans are beyond anger my friend. They full of hate, spite, venom, etc, etc, etc.”
Comment by j.j
That’s right, j.j. Kind of like Rush’s site, or that puke’s Sean Hannity, huh?
Of course, you don’t have to post here. Why don’t you try another Blog that is more PRO-BUSH and inline with the Rethuglican talking points?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:02 pmI don’t do that now, so I’m not sure what your point is. I’m against the death of the innocent in any form. Whether caused by Saddam Hussein or George W. Bush. There is no hypocracy in my stand on this issue. Comment by Parrotlover77 — April 19, 2007 @ 1:01 pm
Nully, j.j is just doing some self criticism, masked as attacks on you to avoid facing his own hypocrisy as usual. Poor little pathetic lunatic…
April 19th, 2007 at 1:03 pmValiant, the hateful racist pig…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I take it by your post here that you did not bring your ace game. I told you kid, come with something better than yesterday because you were truly boring me.
It looks that all you brought was the same old hate, racist pig ideology of yours.
I pity you kid.
and nice to see that you are a paranoid liberal wacko…..did you sleep well last night believing that you had won something?
here is a clue….nully is not this person j.j, but leave it to a left wing nut job to be paranoid…
BWAHAHAHAHAHA
you amuse me my little one…good job. post way my racist nazi like pig….
April 19th, 2007 at 1:03 pmComment by j.j(my b.j.)— April 19, 2007 @ 12:58 pm
Hey michael, I see your changed your name after being totally debunked yesterday by VVCFU.
good luck, and please, keep up those witty, non informative posts that do not offer an ounce of credibility, or reliable sources
April 19th, 2007 at 1:03 pmoops, my bad
j.j.=michael=nully
there, mucho better
April 19th, 2007 at 1:05 pmHere’s a security plan, Iraqis: QUIT KILLING EACH OTHER. How about that one? Just . . . Quit . . . Killing . . . Each . . . Other. This [] is how much sympathy I have for you. You let religion, ethnicity, tribe, etc. dictate life and death. If I were POTUS, I’d make sure every man woman and child had a gun and the last one standing wins. Then, eliminate that last person and build a giant garden-zoo of tranquility.
Iraqis? You’re hopelessly unsaveable because you refuse to save yourselves.
Good riddance.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:05 pmvaliant, aka hateful, racist pig…..
so Darfur is President Bush’s fault? hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! you are certainly a deranged wacko little nazi like racist pig.
why are you so stupid? oh wait, you are going to try to come back with the same old line, “projecting much…” c’mon my racist little pig, you can do better than that, or can you?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:06 pmSix years of incompetence, ineptitude, and disconnectedness, and we are faced with the greatest foreign policy blunder of our lifetime. Those who think things are going frine in Iraq are so deluded that there is nothing anyone can say to them. The showdown is coming though.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:09 pmValaint,
wow, why the hate? holy cow. I have never seen so much hate in my life. RemoveBush, Spudge_bob, now Valiant. Why are liberals so hateful, so full of venome, of spite?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:10 pmDRxJ,
why are you liberals so paranoid? j.j is j.j, all those other people are other people. wow, hate and paranoid, not a good combination.
yes enaud, the showdown is coming. What the heck is wrong with you people? honestly. Never seen so many psycopaths gathered together in one place.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:12 pmOpposing points of view are fine. That is not what you have. You are a troll. You didn’t come onto this board looking for another point of view. You came here to troll. Nothing more, nothing less. Son.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSending in the troops should be our last option when it comes to establishing national security in countries abroad. Genocides like that in Sudan, and what happened in Somalia should never be allowed to happen again. Our soldiers are warriors, not peacekeepers. This is the primary reason why they have such a difficult time in un-warlike scenarios, like in Iraq. The enemy is not clearly defined as fighting goes on in the midst of everyday civilian life.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAs a nation, in order to preserve our own security should help establish other secure nations, not by military means. Hunger and poverty are petri dishes for militants, terrorists, and sociopaths. Eliminating the growth sites for such terrible things would reduce the need for immediate military action. It would also, be less expensive and possibly even make money. As those who are impoverished move out of poverty and begin to develop all nations involved could begin to profit in a healthy, sustainable way.
j.j, Why are neocons so stupid? This is something I’ve never been able to understand. Any insight?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:16 pmSpudge_Boy,
son, you are another lunatic, in fact I am starting to realize that this site is full of very hateful, poorly informed individuals who only care about Bush failing at anything he does regardless of the consequences to others.
for your own good, Pudge boy, put down your Kool-Aid, put down the left wing nut job talking points and as I asked you earlier try to think on your own. Start by shutting down your computer and not reading venom filled sites like thinkprogress.org.
Son, as I told RemoveBush, take your lunacy and spew it to someone that cares.
wow, incredible.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:17 pmthe sign of a true crazy ideolog, of a lunatic that can’t see beyond parties is one that always blames one party over the other.
Comment by j.j(my b.j.) — April 19 @2007 12:27 pm
which was preceded by this:
Yes, many liberals don’t want to surge to work because then Bush will be seen as a hero and most Liberals can’t have that.
They care more about getting into power in Jan. 2009 than they care about Iraq being stable and safe place.
Most Liberal outlets have done everythign possible to turn opinion about the Iraq War against the President.
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Okay, now that’ funny
April 19th, 2007 at 1:18 pmBUSTED!!!
Talking shit with a troll leaves you just that; shit.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:19 pmNever seen so many psycopaths gathered together in one place.
Comment by j.j my b.j — April 19, 2007 @ 1:12 pm
Up your dose of Risperdal consta!
April 19th, 2007 at 1:21 pmWhen you actually “see” people on a blog, the therapeutic effect of your current dosing is not working.
May I suggest 50mg IM q 2 weeks.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! ….. hate, racist pig ideology ….. paranoid liberal wacko….. left wing nut job to be paranoid…..
BWAHAHAHAHAHA ….. racist nazi like pig….
Comment by nully
I knew it was you, I-RIGHT-I. Long time no see. You been in treatment for a while or what? Didn’t help much, huh? And how long you been in drag?
April 19th, 2007 at 1:22 pmWow, how original you people are.
Hey guys, how many trolls have changed my screen name to be Spudge_bob or Sponge_bob? I am going to go with all of the ones that have been debunked and no longer post here, just as this one will go away after being humiliated too.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:23 pmMost Liberal outlets have done everythign possible to turn opinion about the Iraq War against the President.
Comment by j.j
Ya that whole …this is going on longer than WWII and doesnt appear to be a war but an occupation refereeing a civil war…had NOTHING to do with public opinion…
April 19th, 2007 at 1:24 pmHey son, you are nothing new here. You are a 28%er. We are 72%ers. We are the majority and you are a pitiful minority. So, you think that 72% of the population are lunatics? You better just pack up yor trailer and move son.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:25 pm“…I am starting to realize that this site is full of very hateful, poorly informed individuals who only care about Bush failing at anything he does regardless of the consequences to others.”
Comment by j.j — April 19, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Nobody here is hateful or poorly informed except you. What we care about is how Bush is incapable of learning from his mistakes and how his failed policies affect everyone. Bush is doing just fine on his own at failing at anything regardless of the consequences to others.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:27 pmI see a couple of reichwing girls have taken a break from clothes shopping to cheer for Bush.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:28 pmThe retarded tool bag trolls continually cling to some hope of “winning”. What is there to “win” besides lucrative oil contracts for Bush’s energy sector buddies? If the trolls could distinguish Iraq from a football game maybe they would realize there is no “winning”. Probably not, once a dumbf$ck, always a dumbf$ck.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:37 pm“Hey son, you are nothing new here. You are a 28%er. We are 72%ers. We are the majority and you are a pitiful minority. So, you think that 72% of the population are lunatics? You better just pack up yor trailer and move son.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 19, 2007 @ 1:25 pm”
so this is how you formualte your opinions and how you decide who and what to stand by, according to polls and popularity contests? how truly sad for you son.
I take it that if the majority of people said that jumping of a 100 story cliff was survivable, you would be the first one in line, since the majority said so, right?
do you not realize how ridiculous you sound? sadly enough, not.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:43 pmAhh yes, the old troll talking point of taking the focus off the issue, and saying justifyable anger is no more than misplaced hate.
Been there done that.
Next.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:44 pm“Ya that whole …this is going on longer than WWII and doesnt appear to be a war but an occupation refereeing a civil war…had NOTHING to do with public opinion…
Comment by ggibson — April 19, 2007 @ 1:24 pm”
Do you know history? Korean War to be more precise? go find out what it was all about and how it was truly a civil war that Democrats got us involved in.
If Iraq is a civil war, we have been in situations like this before. Please, honestly read up on the Korean War and what it was all about.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:45 pm“Ahh yes, the old troll talking point of taking the focus off the issue, and saying justifyable anger is no more than misplaced hate.
Been there done that.
Next.
Comment by ForTruth — April 19, 2007 @ 1:44 pm”
Typical language of the hateful people. They are so consumed by hate that they can’t see that their hate goes way beyond anger.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:46 pmOld Bushies works for the American people. We make the decisions not Old Bushies. It is time that the young college people to wake up and protested this war. In Madison WI the college students are doing just that.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:47 pmDo you know history? Korean War to be more precise? go find out what it was all about and how it was truly a civil war that Democrats got us involved in.
If Iraq is a civil war, we have been in situations like this before. Please, honestly read up on the Korean War and what it was all about.
Comment by j.j.
The domino theory was proven to be wrong.. democrat or republican.. it was wrong…
Korea … wrong…Vietnam …wrong… Iraq… wrong….
Left right..democrat republican… it doesnt matter…
April 19th, 2007 at 1:52 pmso this is how you formualte your opinions and how you decide who and what to stand by, according to polls and popularity contests? how truly sad for you son.
Comment by j.j
Really?
Thats how the Founding Fathers started America… and how our entire system works… WE THE PEOPLE speak the government listens…
April 19th, 2007 at 1:53 pm#124,
You are a pre 9/11 thinker for sure.
April 19th, 2007 at 1:57 pminstead of so much hate, why don’t you liberals focus and admire people like these….
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Bronze Star recipient
Capt. Alfred L. Butler, IV
1st Lt. Butler and his team were conducting operations in Fallujah, Iraq, on Dec. 23, 2004, when insurgents ambushed his platoon. Butler raced to the attack where several men in a house were taking heavy automatic weapons fire. He evacuated the men from a house under intense fire, and then organized an assault force to confront the insurgents who were pinning down additional men on the second floor. Jumping roof to roof, Butler and his team cleared two buildings under fire to retrieve the other men. Butler disregarded his own safety and shielded the bodies of fallen Marines when a grenade landed nearby. For his actions, Butler was awarded the Bronze Star Medal with Combat Distinguishing Device for his actions.See story.
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Air Force Capt. Craig D. Prather
While transporting men and equipment from Baghdad to Fallujah by helicopter on Nov. 13, 2004, Capt. Prather’s helicopter came under heavy fire from insurgents hidden in ditches below. Maj. Matthew Glover’s helicopter (see Jan. 17 “Heroesâ€) was also under attack. As rounds began hitting the aircraft, Prather immediately tried to maneuver out of the direct line of fire and find an alternate route. His crew returned fire, but the new flight pattern exposed them to a second enemy position. Even as he dodged hostile fire from two directions and flew a damaged aircraft, Prather wanted to continue with the mission to deliver the much-needed reinforcements and supplies to Fallujah. After delivering the provisions, Prather assessed the damaged aircraft and decided it was safe to fly back to an airfield where repairs could be made. However, as they headed back toward Baghdad, the right engine’s cover detached and flew through the aircraft’s rotor blades, further crippling the helicopter. Rather than abandon the aircraft to the enemy, Prather managed to successfully deliver his crew of 14 men to Baghdad. For his leadership and actions while under enemy fire, Prather was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross with “V†in November 2005.
Goldsboro, N.C.
Silver Star recipient
Sgt. Micheaux M. Sanders
Straight out of basic training, then-Spc. Sanders deployed to Iraq in 2003 in the early stages of the conflict–but it was not until April 4, 2004, that he faced his greatest challenge on the battlefield. A platoon of 20 men was trapped deep within Sadr City, which was in the midst of an uprising. Sgt. Sanders’s tank crew and two others from his unit were called to aid the rescue. The first two attempts failed, and during the second, Sgt. Sanders took a bullet through his left shoulder. Sanders waved the medics away, and instead hopped on another tank for a third rescue attempt, one which pushed through numerous firefights and impromptu roadblocks, such as burning tires and washing machines, to reach the stranded men. Sanders told the Chicago Tribune later, “All I needed was a Band-Aid.†Because Sanders’s unit had previously been scheduled for transport, the tanks were carrying a minimum load of ammunition. At one point Sanders ran out of ammo and resorted to throwing rocks and anything else he could find at the enemy. Sanders was awarded the Silver Star in October 2004. Army story.
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Silver Star recipient
North Carolina Army National Guard’s Sgt. 1st Class Chad M. Stephens
Urban combat often devolves into a series of actions that traverse winding streets and narrow alleys–sometimes for hours. That was certainly the case for Sgt. 1st Class Stephens on June 24, 2004, in Baqubah. That morning, Stephens and his platoon were called in to assist another platoon taking heavy fire from insurgents. Stephens’s platoon helped the others fight through the engagement and then proceeded further into Baqubah. And then they ran into the first ambush of the day. His company commander was severely wounded, and elements of the company disengaged to evacuate him–leaving an even slimmer force. Undaunted, Stephens’s platoon fought through the ambush and continued the offensive as it wound through the city.
Then came a second ambush. In a barrage of fire from all directions, one of the Bradleys was disabled by an RPG round–leaving a wounded man trapped in the open. As enemies continued to pour down a heavy stream of fire, Stephens leapt from his vehicle and sprinted 50 meters in the open to reach the injured soldier. As rounds ricocheted off the metal, Stephens climbed into the open hatch to pull the soldier out of the wrecked vehicle. Medics crouched on the protected side of the vehicle, and Stephens lowered the injured man to them. He then ran back across the open space, dodging the enemies’ fire. Stephens rallied his men and pushed on through the city, repelling numerous attacks as they evacuated the wounded soldier. Despite an injury, Stephens led his men to the opposite side of the city to a nearby base, where they hoped to save their downed man. Unfortunately, his wounds were too grave. For his selfless act in retrieving a fellow soldier while under enemy fire, Stephens was awarded the Silver Star on Oct. 22, 2006.
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April 19th, 2007 at 1:59 pm“Thats how the Founding Fathers started America… and how our entire system works… WE THE PEOPLE speak the government listens…
Comment by ggibson — April 19, 2007 @ 1:53 pm”
actually, WRONG!! if the Founding Fathers did what most colonist wanted at that time, they would have never started a revolution and the USA would have never been born. Please study some history, please. Do yourself this favor. You will sound smarter.
and We the People speak and the government listens by us electing people, not through ridiculous, biased, polls. get a clue, ggibson.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:01 pmggibson,
the domino affect was not a lie my friend.
what happened ot Vietnam and the surrounding countries after the Democrats forced our troops out of there. How many millions died after the USA left Vietnam?
let us also not forget what the USSR did in Afghanistan and EAstern Europe. The domino effect was very real.
i take it you took a history course from a very liberal, anti-american, pro-communist prof. eh? don’t worry, i took the same courses.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:05 pmj.j–…think you held on to those GI Joes a bit too long. Tell Mom it’s OK to throw them out.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:07 pmif the Founding Fathers did what most colonist wanted at that time, they would have never started a revolution and the USA would have never been born
Comment by nully— April 19, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
wow, that is very interesting. Please explain with detailed explanations so I can be further enlightened by your wisdom!
April 19th, 2007 at 2:09 pmwhat happened ot Vietnam and the surrounding countries after the Democrats forced our troops out of there. How many millions died after the USA left Vietnam?
Comment by j.j.
That isnt the domino thoery…
How many communists took over the world?
None.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:10 pmwhat happened ot Vietnam and the surrounding countries after the Democrats forced our troops out of there. How many millions died after the USA left Vietnam?
Comment by nully — April 19, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
do you even think before typing? When did the last troops leave Vietnam? 1975.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:12 pmWho was president? Ford.
WTF are you stating???
and We the People speak and the government listens by us electing people, not through ridiculous, biased, polls. get a clue, ggibson.
Comment by j.j
The polls reflect the opinions of the people. The Congress is put in place to represent the PEOPLE….
WE THE PEOPLE of the United States were writing booklets about the wrongs being done against the people… WE THE PEOPLE were commiting crimes of “Boston Tea Parties” … WE THE PEOPLE were being taken as slaves to work and die on british navy ships… The founding fathers were acting on the will of the people… the founding fathers were the REPRESENTATIVES of the will of the people… I suggest YOU study history beyond just reading the titles….
April 19th, 2007 at 2:13 pmYou are a pre 9/11 thinker for sure.
Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up!
Yes I am… I like to think of it as a 1776 thinker… ahh the age of reason.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:15 pmDRxJ,
do you really want me to school you son? you are aware that only 1/3 of the colonist wanted to seperate from England, right? you do know this son, right?
that public school education, it clearly failed DRxJ who thinks he is smart an educated.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:19 pm#134,
Word.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:19 pmDRxJ,
what the hell are you ranting about son……
it was your “genius” ggibson that brought up Vietnam. Furthermore, uneducated, poorly informed one it was the Democratic Party in Congress that forced our troops to be pulled out Vietnam. Guess what they did….they pull the funding for our troops there.
what the hell are you talking about Ford being the PResident then, so what….it was congress which forced Nixon’s hand.
get a clue and an education too.
no wonder you are a liberal, complete and utter ignorant.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:21 pmj.j, you really need to read some history. You are quite ignorant. Both about the Founding Fathers and the Korean War. Of course, I’m not blaming Americans for forgetting their British roots, every child disowns its parents for a time, but it’s folly to go on denying it and assuming the Nation was born ex nihilo.
The Korean War was a UN police action. And you conveniently forget that Truman fired MacArthur for disobeying orders and expanding the war. The Republicans favored invading Red China. It was the same talk of a ’surge’ working and the need to expand the war to fight them over there or fight them here. And it was Republican BS.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:23 pmit clearly failed DRxJ who thinks he is smart an educated.
Comment by nully— April 19, 2007 @ 2:19 pm
but at least I can spell simpelton words, like “and”
April 19th, 2007 at 2:23 pmggibson,
son, uneducated one, the founding fathers were acting on the will of 1/3 of the people.
it looks like public education, which you Democrats love so much, also failed you.
furthermore, you weren’t born back then, so it was “WE” don’t include yourself there. You are too uneducated to be part of the great founding fathers.
the Founding Fathers did what they thought was right, they didn’t take polls to see if the colonists wanted to seperate from England, they didn’t take opinion polls, to come to this conclusion. If they would have done this, and they worked like the mind of a Liberal, they would have stayed home and open the doors to the English since only 1/3 of the colonist, yes a minority, wanted complete seperation from England.
along with DRxJ you need to get a clue and an education.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:24 pmComment by j.j.
Try posting links… because your version of history contradicts everything we have read…
April 19th, 2007 at 2:25 pmson, uneducated one, the founding fathers were acting on the will of 1/3 of the people.
Comment by j.j.
So says you… and reading your comments here doesnt give your word much credibility…. I prefer history…
April 19th, 2007 at 2:27 pmDavid,
wrong!!! Republicans were against the Korean War! read up on it. Who ended the Korean War, well you created a truce? hint, he was a Republican.
It was Democrats who wanted this war to go on and on and on. please!
and so what the Korean WAr was a UN police action, like most wars it is the USA that always provides the bulk of the armed forces and money and weapons. The USA fought the Korean War and it was well beyond a police action.
and McArthur was fired because of his talk of using atomic bombs against china and N. Korea. get a clue and an education while you are it.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:28 pmYou are too uneducated to be part of the great founding fathers.
Comment by nully — April 19, 2007 @ 2:24 pm
but was preceded by this great sentence structure:
so it was “WE†don’t include yourself there.
nully, you may want to let go of the uneducated argument! To judge one as uneducated, one must be educated first
D’OH
April 19th, 2007 at 2:28 pmggibson,
oh my goodness!!! go read any history book, turn on the history channel or pbs if you are too lazy to read a book about American history.
1/3 of the colonist supported complete seperation from England…….
wow, so much ignorant, so much ignorance. It is not I who says it, it is history.
If i am wrong, here is the perfect opportunity for you to prove me wrong.
and i would suggest that you stop relying on your public school education son.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:30 pmthe Founding Fathers did what they thought was right, they didn’t take polls to see if the colonists wanted to seperate from England, they didn’t take opinion polls, to come to this conclusion. If they would have done this, and they worked like the mind of a Liberal, they would have stayed home and open the doors to the English since only 1/3 of the colonist, yes a minority, wanted complete seperation from England.
along with DRxJ you need to get a clue and an education.
Comment by j.j.
What the Founding Fathers did do was sit in pubs and have meetings… as did many many Americans… and in those pubs what they heard was the type of talk we only hear now a days on the Internet… they heard their fellow Americans giving speechs against the tyranny of the british… They read the pamphlets of people like Thomas Paine rail against the british… they saw the suffering and shame on the faces of their fellows… they saw the drawing of the boston massacre….
They were NOT Bush and his FEW neocon followers “doing the right thing” … they had a mass of angry people… and they did something about it… and many of those people picked up their guns and suffered right along side Washington … they gave intelligence on the loyalists and the british… they gave food and clothes to the fighters…
Did you ever read any of the details of the American revolution beyond high school?
April 19th, 2007 at 2:31 pmWhile there is no way of knowing the actual numbers, historians estimate 15% to 25% of the colonists remained loyal to the British Crown; these became known as Loyalists (or ‘Tories’, or ‘King’s men’). Loyalists were typically older, less willing to break with old loyalties, often connected to the Anglican church, and included many established merchants with business connections across the Empire, for example Thomas Hutchinson of Boston. Recent immigrants who had not been fully Americanized were also inclined to support the King, such as recent Scottish settlers in the back country
Wow, and to think nully said only 1/3 of the colonists wanted to seperate from Great Britain.
Geez, hows that new math working out for you nully?
April 19th, 2007 at 2:32 pmComment by j.j.
Have you ever read the “give me liberty or give me death” speech? What about the history of the situation… many MANY people wanted the british to back off… many MANY were afraid of the military and thought the cause was hopeless… but when the fighting began they either were loyalists or Americans…. MOST choose AMERICA…. smart guy…
April 19th, 2007 at 2:34 pmDRxJ,
first of all, I am not nully, stop your paranoia.
secondly, what the hell are you talking about, you rant and rave and you only make sense to the voices in your head.
obviously you aren’t educated enough to see how incredible wrong you are.
trust me, most ingorant people like you believe they are educated. you aren’t son, you just aren’t.
try to open up a book once in a while, you will be shocked at how much information you can obtain by reading.
wow, incredible the amount of ignorance coming from DRxJ and his buddies. how sad, how truly, truly sad……
now wonder sites fool idiots like you guys so easily, you aren’t educated enough to know when site like thinkprogress.org are lying to you.
i don’t know whether to cry for you or laugh at you……
April 19th, 2007 at 2:34 pmDRxJ,
oh so anywhere between 1/3 became Tories, 1/3 were for full seperation from England, how about the other 1/3, can you guess what they wanted.
like a good liberal you pointed to half-truths, why not put up the full picture, afraid you are wrong…….
April 19th, 2007 at 2:36 pmAnd what was the name of the polling firm back in 1774-76 that you got these figures from? And how did that Continental Congress manage to pass all those Articles with only one third of the votes?
Of course, I do understand that all the 13 Colonies were British. Every single American was a British subject in 1775. And most would have known the chaos that followed the beheading of Charles I by Cromwell. And certainly most would have feared the devil they didn’t know.
But you certainly aren’t teaching anyone useful history. And I think it’s just a smokescreen to hide the fact that you can’t defend America’s imperialist adventure in the Middle East.
And what’s with the “Aw, shucks, son” routine? Are you some senile old coot who can’t remember where he left his eyeglasses? Ooops, there they are! Perched on the top of your pointy head.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:36 pmComment by j.j.
You suck at trying to prove your point… you just want people to take your word… is that the extent of your powers?
April 19th, 2007 at 2:37 pmWell yes, because we live in A DEMOCRACY.
Jesus H friggin’ Christ what is wrong with you people? Son.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:38 pmggibson,
here is a clue for you, which DRxJ doesn’t get…
about 1/3 wanted freedom, 1/3 wanted to stay with England, and 1/3 wanted to not fully seperate from England.
1/3 of colonists is many, many people, I agree, but it is not a majority. Just like it was not a majority of colonist who fought in the American Revolutions. The ones that did fight were incredible heros, but the majority of colonists did not fight the English.
stop with the second grade American history stuff and go more indepth. Please! I am embarrased for you and DRxJ.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:38 pmIt is called the Electoral College.
I swear you people are fu*king stupid.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:39 pmnully,
15 to 25 percent wanted to stay loyal (thats about 1/4) That means that literally 85 to 75 percent (3/4) wanted to disassociate from the governing body of Britania.
3/4 > 1/3
Now, where’d you get that 1/3rd figure? Link please, as I will not look up your a$$
April 19th, 2007 at 2:40 pmSpudge_boy
are you so stupid as to not know that we don’t live in a Democracy, but in a Republican, which is a Representative Democracy…
I ask you, what is wrong with people like you….wow!!
so, you don’t do what is right, you do what the majority says is right….
do you not realize how stupid you are sounding? wow!!!
April 19th, 2007 at 2:40 pmJJ,
Where have I been so hateful?
April 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pmDRxJ,
oh please, the old liberal tactic…
Liberal says, “Provide a link….”, but they provide no link to their distorted views.
oh please you are beneath me son, try your lunacy with someone as stupid as you.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:41 pmTry starting here… and follow all those links for references… spend a day or 10 …
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution
April 19th, 2007 at 2:42 pmAlthough Loyalists were about 15-20% of the population, throughout the war the Patriots generally controlled 80-90% of the territory; the British could only hold a few coastal cities. In 1776, representatives of the 13 colonies voted unanimously to adopt a Declaration of Independence, by which they established the United States of America.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Revolution
April 19th, 2007 at 2:44 pmggibson,
oh please wikipedia….my two year old son can go in there and edit anything he wants….
let us try a real source and not a joke like wikipedia.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:44 pmare you so stupid as to not know that we don’t live in a Democracy, but in a Republican,
Comment by nully. — April 19, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
Was that a freudian slip? You want to live “in” a Republican?
April 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pmOkay Gannon.
Tell us again how we are uneducated
j.j wants you to use the Washington Times and Fox News sources.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:45 pmTruman called for a ceasefire. And I bet, j.j, you don’t want to be reminded of what Eisenhower thought of Texas oilmen.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:46 pmsh….tno wonder DRxj is so ill-informed he uses wikipedia to inform himself….
how truly sad and ignorant of him…
try the Britanica Encyclopidia or something a lot more reliable and trustworthy than a site like wikipedia where anyone and everyone can edit and add what they want……
wow!
April 19th, 2007 at 2:46 pmBoy Karl Rove sure did scrape the barrel finding people to derail any blog that is talking about the 210 dead Iraqis. The so want there 7th surge of the occupation to work. They just want it to last until after January 2009, so we have to clean up their mess. Idiots.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:47 pmIt is the Encyclopedia Britanica moron.
I love somebody who tries to be intellectual, but can’t spell or form a sentence correctly. No wonder you guys like Bush so much, he speaks your language. Texbonics.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:49 pmhow truly sad and ignorant of him…
try the Britanica Encyclopidia
wow!
Comment by nully — April 19, 2007 @ 2:46 pm
But at least I can spell Encyclopedia.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:49 pmHow truly sad and ignorant of me to actual pass a vocabulary test
let us try a real source and not a joke like wikipedia.
Comment by j.j.
typical response… I believe in the Internet revolution.. you dont? You go to a more “proper” source and prove me wrong.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:51 pmOkay nully, you’ve derailed the thread long enough.
April 19th, 2007 at 2:52 pmIs the surge working?
Should we continue the increase, with back door drafts, and shortened leaves?
About one-third of American colonists were loyalists, including officeholders who served the British crown, large landholders, wealthy merchants, Anglican clergy and their parishioners, and Quakers. Loyalists were most numerous in the South, New York, and Pennsylvania, but they did not constitute a majority in any colony. At first they urged moderation in the struggle for colonial rights; when denounced by radical patriots, they became active partisans. Some joined the British army, including 23,000 from New York; when captured in battle, they were treated as traitors. All states passed laws against them, confiscating or heavily taxing their property. Beginning in 1776, about 100,000 loyalists fled into exile, many to Canada. Public sentiment against them diminished after 1789, and punitive state laws were repealed by 1814.
http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9370644
Thanks for the 30day free trial britannica.com….
April 19th, 2007 at 3:04 pmSo trolls, is 210 dead Iraqis in 24 hours proof of a surge victory?
Are we winning when the people we are protecting die?
April 19th, 2007 at 3:06 pmClassic troll smack down.
April 19th, 2007 at 3:12 pmRepublicans have been playing the “gotcha” game for a long, long time. They really want the Dems to end this war so they can blame them for its loss. Although Karl Rove’s comments of late should let us all know that it’s pretty much considered over in WH circles.
April 19th, 2007 at 3:18 pmoddly enough, when confronted with facts, as well as an invitation to begin an actual debate with relevence to this thread, j.j (aka nully) disappears
Huh, whoda thunk?
What’s the over under that it returns around 10pm tonight to defend it’s posts?
April 19th, 2007 at 3:43 pmDRxJ,
little one, I have a living outside of thinkprogress.org….try getting out of your box, thinkprogress.org once in a while…..
April 19th, 2007 at 4:00 pmyou know, if any of you nutjobs would had been around during WWII, you would have called it quits on December 7, 1941.
If no then, you would have called it quits during the Battle of the Buldge, or during the battles in which America lost 10s of thousands of Americans and everything seems hopeless and lost.
you poor liberals are so filled with fear, and hate for your nation.
you guys have no problem raising the white flag and running home with your tail between your legs.
the surge just began, all the troopps that are suppose to be part of the surge have gotten to Iraq, so how the hell are liberals claiming that the surge is not working when the surge is not even complete! duh, duh, duh….
leave it to liberals to raise the white flag faster than a speeding bullet.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:04 pmOn Decmemer 7, 1941 we were attacked by the Japanese, so we went after them.
On Spetember 11, 2001 we were attacked by Saudis and People from the UAE, so we attacked Iraq.
Next lame a$$ed talking point son.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:09 pmIraqis are more likely to die under the US occupation than they were under Saddam. The Iraqi who helped in the photo-op of bringing down the statue of Saddam said the Americans had replaced one thief with forty thieves. More Deadly than Saddam
Why is America in Iraq? It didn’t have WMD. It didn’t help bring down the WTC. No. And Saddam was complying with all the UN resolutions. (Which is why Bush and Blair didn’t go for that promised second resolution.)
Checking Amazon’s bestseller list, I am amazed at how little America cares about this conflict, its backstory, and the people of the region. During Vietnam, American publishers had dozens of books out on the war, the history of Indochina, and the language & culture of the Vietnamese. One could even pick up the poems of Ho Chi Minh in a slim paperback. But Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Pakistan? Forgeddaboutit! You will not find the Koran among Amazon’s top 100. Or books on learning Arabic. Or the history of Islam, the Ottoman Empire, or even Lawrence of Arabia’s classic The Seven Pillars of Wisdom, which is a must read for people wanting to know that region’s history. (Seven Pillars ranks 5946 at Amazon and the Penguin translation of the Koran is #19,122)
You know, if you’re keen to kill a million people and steal their country, you should at least have the decency to read up on who they were and what they were like.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:09 pmggibson, you keep on bringing up the 1/3 of the colonist population that wanted to stay with England….you don’t do research on the full numbers.
here to help you out on your education and research that you will now be able to do in Britanica Enc.
1/3 were loyalist
1/3 patriots
1/3 neutral.
once again the founding fathers did not do what the majority of colonist wanted.
but I am glad that I pushed you to get acquainted with a reliable source like Britanica, hopefully it will help you become better educated
glad I could help you. :)
April 19th, 2007 at 4:13 pmyou know, if any of you nutjobs would had been around during WWII, you would have called it quits on December 7, 1941.
If no then, you would have called it quits during the Battle of the Buldge, or during the battles in which America lost 10s of thousands of Americans and everything seems hopeless and lost.
you poor liberals are so filled with fear, and hate for your nation.
you guys have no problem raising the white flag and running home with your tail between your legs.
the surge just began, all the troopps that are suppose to be part of the surge have gotten to Iraq, so how the hell are liberals claiming that the surge is not working when the surge is not even complete! duh, duh, duh….
leave it to liberals to raise the white flag faster than a speeding bullet.
Comment by j.j
Judging by the number of his typos (troopps?) I’d say j.j is in his cups. Drunk. Enjoying a little Republican courage, as they say down at the Legion.
Wasn’t the Commander-in-Chief during WWII that arch-liberal democrat FDR? And wasn’t it the Republican party that was scared to offend Hitler and didn’t want anything to do with Britain’s quarrel with the Nazis?
And wasn’t it Republican Senate leader Taft who hated the idea of NATO and thought Stalin wasn’t such a dangerous guy. And Joseph McCarthy who kept accusing the Dems of having Lost China?
The Big Myth created in the last quarter of the 20th century was the one where the Republicans know anything about War, Peace, Strategy, Human Rights, or International Relations. Republicans know squat. A newly elected Republican always asks the same question: Where’s the trough?
April 19th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAnd the Encyclopedia Britanica is reliable because it has been around a long time. Well, so has the bible, but it has been scewed by each new rewrite. Get with the times dumb a$$. You need information from more than one source and if the one ggibson used, wikipedia, agrees with the Encyclopedia Britanica, how can you state that what he said was wrong, son?
April 19th, 2007 at 4:22 pmWhy yes it was. And why is that you ask? Because people like George W Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush (R) Conn. were funding the Nazi party. This isn’t a liberal conspiracy theory. Prescott Bush testified in front of Congress and the bank he ran was seized.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:28 pmThe nutjobs are the people who continually bash their head against the wall of Iraq and expect some different outcome entering the fifth year. There is an astronomical difference between accepting the reality of the situation and surrendering. Cling to your pathetic hope that something resembling victory will come out of the Iraq debacle. When morons like jj finally do come around, they will blame anyone else but the people that put us there and the people that blindly supported this insane endevour. Its not about fortitude or sticking it out. Its about how many more American lives and dollars will be wasted for a colossal mistake.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:29 pmDavid and Spudge_boy,
you little ones don’t know much history do you, eh? Check into Granpa Kennedy, a Senator during the 1930s who actually went and visited Hitler and came back and encouraged FDR to join WWII on the side of HItler….guess which party Grandpa Kennedy belong to…..that’s right Democrats!
as for the propaganda that Grandpa Bush was funding the Nazis, pure and utter propaganda, left wing nut jobs like Pudgy Boy believe all the crap they read from left wing nut job sites and claim it as fact.
it must be sad to be you Pudgy Boy….
read some true history and not some ridiculous website that tells you grandpa bush funded the nazis.
wow, what is wrong with you son…you sound very much like the Korean guy that committed the massacre in VT. Your rant against Christianity and against the rich sound way too much like his rants.
are you his evil soul?
April 19th, 2007 at 4:32 pmComment by j.j.
You have done nothing in this discussion but repeat crap you heard somewhere else… why? because that little bit is all you know. And you are too lazy to go fact check yourself…which leaves me to do it…and I am not going to spend anymore time doing it for you. IF you come up with something worth responding to I will give you another shot.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:41 pmThat would be you Jack0ff Jake.
Sonny boy, do you think calling people little one or son makes you seem knowledgeable? You are the one with the hate filled heart who came to this site this morning intentionally to start a fight. If anybody is like the VT killer it is you son. I haven’t said anything about rich people, you just made that sh!t up son. Nobody believes a liar. It is why Bush is in trouble and nobody will listen to you boy.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:42 pmKnock yourself out from the Congressional Archives, nully
April 19th, 2007 at 4:42 pmhttp://www.geocities.com/bushfamilynazis/
as for the propaganda that Grandpa Bush was funding the Nazis, pure and utter propaganda, left wing nut jobs like Pudgy Boy believe all the crap they read from left wing nut job sites and claim it as fact. Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
Actually the bank Grandpa Bush was an officer in, was funding Hitler. You however are familiar with propaganda, Nazi boy – since that’s all the sh*t you post.
it must be sad to be you Pudgy Boy…. Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
More unintentional self reflection.
read some true history and not some ridiculous website that tells you grandpa bush funded the nazis. Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
True history? You mean like this history on Prescott Bush’s Nazi ties?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html
wow, what is wrong with you son…you sound very much like the Korean guy that committed the massacre in VT. Your rant against Christianity and against the rich sound way too much like his rants.
are you his evil soul? Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
More unintentional self-criticism. He was in VA, not VT, you ignorant lying piece of sh*t.
Ironic, considering your rants, and poor command of english are quite reminiscent of the shooter. Poor sad little wacko! Hope they have you under better mental health care, than that poor lost kid. Considering how wacko you sound, it’s clear you aren’t under any suitable care. You’re a good reminder for why we need better health care in this country though – wacko!
April 19th, 2007 at 4:51 pmI commend THINK PROGRESS for publishing above letters that are critical of their reporting, and so hateful towards “liberals”. This is what Democracy is about: allowing BOTH sides to express their views. As much as it is uncomfortable to read posts that attack my own beliefs, it helps me understand what others are thinking. Maybe both sides can eventually have a calm, respectful conversation and reach some common ground.
April 19th, 2007 at 4:53 pmMan you repukes are dumba$$es, NO would actually like the surge to be successful, we would love the war to end in peace…but that isn’t going to happen. Have you ever been around Iraqis…no….mmm, I have, and let me tell you they hate each other, it is a civil war, we cannot win a civil war, this is a fact you idiots keep missing.
And yes we hate Bush, cause of lies, corruption, crimes, war crimes, cronyism, fascism, murder, kidnaping, torture, I think those are all good reasons for hating bush, and it is not just the left that hates him either, I am not much of a far left type, but I know BS when I see it.
Hating repukes like Fireant and JJ (JerkJerk) daily
April 19th, 2007 at 5:07 pm#186 j.j.
as for the propaganda that Grandpa Bush was funding the Nazis, pure and utter propaganda, left wing nut jobs like Pudgy Boy believe all the crap they read from left wing nut job sites and claim it as fact.
Would it help if you read it on the Fox News site, “little one”?
Documents: Bush’s Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler
April 19th, 2007 at 5:58 pmHow are supposed to have a viable GAP store with a McDonald’s next to it.
Oh yeah, in the green zone, nevermind.
April 19th, 2007 at 6:16 pmOnly if you people give tranquilizers to your trolls.
April 19th, 2007 at 6:53 pmExcellent de-bunk Chimpeach.
So JJ,
Any comments on the FOX news story about Prescott Bush and his ties to Hitler.
*crickets chirpin*
April 19th, 2007 at 6:56 pmEven Fox is wrong sometimes too. You people are so full of hate. I don’t know why anyone can say republicans are full of hate. What we did to Clinton was not blind hate, because he really did rape that woman and run drugs and and kill vince foster and he certainly deserved to be impeached because lying about ANYTHING under oath, no matter how trivial, is absolutely much more terrible than lying when your not under oath. Sometimes presidents need to lie if they have a good reason to go to war that isnt really marketable. Its hard to tell the people the real reasons for a war when alot of the people who work for you shook hands and sold weapons to the guy your going to war with.
It doesnt matter what its about, lying under oath is terrible but saying “I don’t remember” under oath 45 times in one day is ok.
Also, its not really that hateful to attack veteran’s war record with unsubstantiated allegations and mock their service with purple heart band aids. Its also not hateful to make up rumours about veterans you are running against. Oh, and trying to generate anger and make laws against people of different sexual orientations just to get votes, that not hateful at all either. Oh… and its also ok to make fun of cripples with Parkinsons disease, if you think they are just pretending. Doing these things isnt hateful.. you people are hateful against bush just because he starts wars and kills people. Saddam was a bad guy. Except when he was our friend. But that was in the past, and 9-11 changed everything. Three thousand people died, so its ok to kill hundreds of thousands of people to get to Saddam. They are just collateral damage. But we didnt kill them out of hate. So its ok. Because now there is democracy is Iraq. And if those people democratically choose to transform Iraq into an Islamic Theocracy, thats ok. Because Saddam is the worst thing in the world that could ever happen. Nothing is worse than Saddam. If Iraq wants to be just like Iran thats ok, it doesnt matter how many of our soldiers die or how much money we spend, as long as Iraqis can choose thier government, thats whats important. Because democracy is always good. Well.. except for Palestine.. and Iran…and Venezula… well.,. ok.. democracy in those countries maybe isnt so good.. but its not TRUE democracy.. its only TRUE democracy if they choose to like america. So im sure theres no way that democracy in iraq coudl turn out bad. Palestine electing Hamas was just a fluke. Iraq is totally different. Really it is. You guys are so full of hate for thinking that we give Iraqis freedom and anything bad could come of freedom. More American soliders should die so that Iraqis can have the right to be just like Iran..
April 20th, 2007 at 12:43 amlol, right, great logic there jake/elizabeth/kirk/micheal/asshatmcgee
dude…. have you guys noticed ALOT of right wingers have really been freaking out recently? I’m not just talking about on this site.. I’ve noticed it in real life too…. frankly, its pretty funnny to watch theses guys melt down…. the cognitive dissonance is becoming too great… each day, reality oozes ever deeper into thier thick skulls… more more more each day, like tidal waves upon the shore, people are having their “but–bush good—bush say he christian…christ good.. so bush good”… myopicly innane mindset challenged. its both amusing and frightening to watch. the more desparate they get the more they deny reality. and most of all .. the more they PROJECT….”oh im a victim,…im so opressed.. we only control all the paid media in the country and nearly 2 and a half branches of government..”
wwwaaaaaaa.
ive said it before like i say it again.. for a bunch of macho guys who like to bomb first and ask questions later, you sure are bunch of fucking crying pussies…your medicine doesnt taste you good when its being shoved into your mouth, does it?
April 20th, 2007 at 12:53 am“Well.. except for Palestine.. and Iran…and Venezula… well.,. ok.. democracy in those countries maybe isnt so good.. but its not TRUE democracy.. its only TRUE democracy if they choose to like america. So im sure theres no way that democracy in iraq coudl turn out bad. Palestine electing Hamas was just a fluke. Iraq is totally different.
Comment by j.j. — April 20, 2007 @ 12:43 am”
JJ are you okay?
I’m not trying trying to insult you with mock concern, it’s just that your post sounds more like someone who tries to convince himself instead of trying to convince others.
Maybe you have someone you love fighting in Iraq right now and you don’t want his sacrifice to be for nothing.
But coming to ThinkProgress and spewing republican party spin about Iraq war is not how to support him.
If you really care about him you should ask for the troops to be redeployed and timeline for the Iraq war so that he can come home sooner.
April 20th, 2007 at 3:45 amj.j, what’s with this false history lesson. First, the USA is NOT a TRUE democracy; it’s a REPRESENTATIVE democracy. Which means it tries to approximate the Will of the People, but can be subverted. That’s why this USAttorney scandal is so important; it appears the USAttorneys were out to suppress the Democratic vote and provide the ‘taint’ of scandal during elections.
Venezuela iis a democracy. Chavez is elected and there is a flourishing free press and opposition. Your kind keeps promoting this myth because is scares you that this kind of leader might be the new face of Latin America.
Palestine did elect Hamas. And that sort of put the lie to all the hype about democracy, didn’t it? You want them to elect leaders, but only Republican approved leaders. Ha. Well, I think, since the West Bank is occupied territory, we can view that vote as a protest against Israel.
And Iran? What do you know of Iran? Zip. Ahmadinejad was elected over a moderate –mostly in response to that “Axis of Evil” speech. Iran is a mix of democracy and theocracy. Free speech may be limited, but within a certain range there can be vigorous debate. The biggest threat is external.
Of course I can think of another combination of democracy and theorcracy and it ain’t doing to well either. Pray for George.
April 20th, 2007 at 7:36 amIf you think the Iraq adventure is working,
or maybe you just believe in it with all your
heart…Join Up! They need you!
April 20th, 2007 at 2:15 pm