or maybe you just believe in it with all your

heart…Join Up! They need you!

Venezuela iis a democracy. Chavez is elected and there is a flourishing free press and opposition. Your kind keeps promoting this myth because is scares you that this kind of leader might be the new face of Latin America.

Palestine did elect Hamas. And that sort of put the lie to all the hype about democracy, didn’t it? You want them to elect leaders, but only Republican approved leaders. Ha. Well, I think, since the West Bank is occupied territory, we can view that vote as a protest against Israel.

And Iran? What do you know of Iran? Zip. Ahmadinejad was elected over a moderate –mostly in response to that “Axis of Evil” speech. Iran is a mix of democracy and theocracy. Free speech may be limited, but within a certain range there can be vigorous debate. The biggest threat is external.

Of course I can think of another combination of democracy and theorcracy and it ain’t doing to well either. Pray for George.

Comment by j.j. — April 20, 2007 @ 12:43 am”

JJ are you okay?

I’m not trying trying to insult you with mock concern, it’s just that your post sounds more like someone who tries to convince himself instead of trying to convince others.

Maybe you have someone you love fighting in Iraq right now and you don’t want his sacrifice to be for nothing.

But coming to ThinkProgress and spewing republican party spin about Iraq war is not how to support him.

If you really care about him you should ask for the troops to be redeployed and timeline for the Iraq war so that he can come home sooner.

dude…. have you guys noticed ALOT of right wingers have really been freaking out recently? I’m not just talking about on this site.. I’ve noticed it in real life too…. frankly, its pretty funnny to watch theses guys melt down…. the cognitive dissonance is becoming too great… each day, reality oozes ever deeper into thier thick skulls… more more more each day, like tidal waves upon the shore, people are having their “but–bush good—bush say he christian…christ good.. so bush good”… myopicly innane mindset challenged. its both amusing and frightening to watch. the more desparate they get the more they deny reality. and most of all .. the more they PROJECT….”oh im a victim,…im so opressed.. we only control all the paid media in the country and nearly 2 and a half branches of government..”

wwwaaaaaaa.

ive said it before like i say it again.. for a bunch of macho guys who like to bomb first and ask questions later, you sure are bunch of fucking crying pussies…your medicine doesnt taste you good when its being shoved into your mouth, does it?

It doesnt matter what its about, lying under oath is terrible but saying “I don’t remember” under oath 45 times in one day is ok.

Also, its not really that hateful to attack veteran’s war record with unsubstantiated allegations and mock their service with purple heart band aids. Its also not hateful to make up rumours about veterans you are running against. Oh, and trying to generate anger and make laws against people of different sexual orientations just to get votes, that not hateful at all either. Oh… and its also ok to make fun of cripples with Parkinsons disease, if you think they are just pretending. Doing these things isnt hateful.. you people are hateful against bush just because he starts wars and kills people. Saddam was a bad guy. Except when he was our friend. But that was in the past, and 9-11 changed everything. Three thousand people died, so its ok to kill hundreds of thousands of people to get to Saddam. They are just collateral damage. But we didnt kill them out of hate. So its ok. Because now there is democracy is Iraq. And if those people democratically choose to transform Iraq into an Islamic Theocracy, thats ok. Because Saddam is the worst thing in the world that could ever happen. Nothing is worse than Saddam. If Iraq wants to be just like Iran thats ok, it doesnt matter how many of our soldiers die or how much money we spend, as long as Iraqis can choose thier government, thats whats important. Because democracy is always good. Well.. except for Palestine.. and Iran…and Venezula… well.,. ok.. democracy in those countries maybe isnt so good.. but its not TRUE democracy.. its only TRUE democracy if they choose to like america. So im sure theres no way that democracy in iraq coudl turn out bad. Palestine electing Hamas was just a fluke. Iraq is totally different. Really it is. You guys are so full of hate for thinking that we give Iraqis freedom and anything bad could come of freedom. More American soliders should die so that Iraqis can have the right to be just like Iran..

So JJ,

Any comments on the FOX news story about Prescott Bush and his ties to Hitler.

*crickets chirpin*

Maybe both sides can eventually have a calm, respectful conversation and reach some common ground.

Comment by Rick — April 19, 2007 @ 4:53 pm

Only if you people give tranquilizers to your trolls.

Oh yeah, in the green zone, nevermind.

as for the propaganda that Grandpa Bush was funding the Nazis, pure and utter propaganda, left wing nut jobs like Pudgy Boy believe all the crap they read from left wing nut job sites and claim it as fact.

Would it help if you read it on the Fox News site, “little one”?

Documents: Bush’s Grandfather Directed Bank Tied to Man Who Funded Hitler

Hating repukes like Fireant and JJ (JerkJerk) daily

Actually the bank Grandpa Bush was an officer in, was funding Hitler. You however are familiar with propaganda, Nazi boy – since that’s all the sh*t you post.

it must be sad to be you Pudgy Boy…. Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

More unintentional self reflection.

read some true history and not some ridiculous website that tells you grandpa bush funded the nazis. Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

True history? You mean like this history on Prescott Bush’s Nazi ties?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,1312540,00.html

wow, what is wrong with you son…you sound very much like the Korean guy that committed the massacre in VT. Your rant against Christianity and against the rich sound way too much like his rants.
are you his evil soul? Comment by j.j. — April 19, 2007 @ 4:32 pm

More unintentional self-criticism. He was in VA, not VT, you ignorant lying piece of sh*t.

Ironic, considering your rants, and poor command of english are quite reminiscent of the shooter. Poor sad little wacko! Hope they have you under better mental health care, than that poor lost kid. Considering how wacko you sound, it’s clear you aren’t under any suitable care. You’re a good reminder for why we need better health care in this country though – wacko!

Sonny boy, do you think calling people little one or son makes you seem knowledgeable? You are the one with the hate filled heart who came to this site this morning intentionally to start a fight. If anybody is like the VT killer it is you son. I haven’t said anything about rich people, you just made that sh!t up son. Nobody believes a liar. It is why Bush is in trouble and nobody will listen to you boy.

You have done nothing in this discussion but repeat crap you heard somewhere else… why? because that little bit is all you know. And you are too lazy to go fact check yourself…which leaves me to do it…and I am not going to spend anymore time doing it for you. IF you come up with something worth responding to I will give you another shot.

you little ones don’t know much history do you, eh? Check into Granpa Kennedy, a Senator during the 1930s who actually went and visited Hitler and came back and encouraged FDR to join WWII on the side of HItler….guess which party Grandpa Kennedy belong to…..that’s right Democrats!

as for the propaganda that Grandpa Bush was funding the Nazis, pure and utter propaganda, left wing nut jobs like Pudgy Boy believe all the crap they read from left wing nut job sites and claim it as fact.

it must be sad to be you Pudgy Boy….

read some true history and not some ridiculous website that tells you grandpa bush funded the nazis.

wow, what is wrong with you son…you sound very much like the Korean guy that committed the massacre in VT. Your rant against Christianity and against the rich sound way too much like his rants.

are you his evil soul?

And wasn’t it the Republican party that was scared to offend Hitler and didn’t want anything to do with Britain’s quarrel with the Nazis?

Why yes it was. And why is that you ask? Because people like George W Bush’s grandfather Prescott Bush (R) Conn. were funding the Nazi party. This isn’t a liberal conspiracy theory. Prescott Bush testified in front of Congress and the bank he ran was seized.

but I am glad that I pushed you to get acquainted with a reliable source like Britanica, hopefully it will help you become better educated

And the Encyclopedia Britanica is reliable because it has been around a long time. Well, so has the bible, but it has been scewed by each new rewrite. Get with the times dumb a$$. You need information from more than one source and if the one ggibson used, wikipedia, agrees with the Encyclopedia Britanica, how can you state that what he said was wrong, son?

Comment by j.j

Judging by the number of his typos (troopps?) I’d say j.j is in his cups. Drunk. Enjoying a little Republican courage, as they say down at the Legion.

Wasn’t the Commander-in-Chief during WWII that arch-liberal democrat FDR? And wasn’t it the Republican party that was scared to offend Hitler and didn’t want anything to do with Britain’s quarrel with the Nazis?

And wasn’t it Republican Senate leader Taft who hated the idea of NATO and thought Stalin wasn’t such a dangerous guy. And Joseph McCarthy who kept accusing the Dems of having Lost China?

The Big Myth created in the last quarter of the 20th century was the one where the Republicans know anything about War, Peace, Strategy, Human Rights, or International Relations. Republicans know squat. A newly elected Republican always asks the same question: Where’s the trough?