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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773040</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œOn December 8, 2005â€¦.Mrs. Sieverding filed an entirely new pro se lawsuitâ€¦Kay Sieverding v. WorldWest Limitedâ€¦attached as Exhibit Aâ€¦.As a result the Newspaper Defendants also request that the Court require (Mr.) Sieverding appear and show cause why he should not be held in contempt of court for assisting (Mrs.) Sieverdingâ€ Respectfully submitted this 12th day of December â€¦ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANTS WorldWest Limited Liability (attached.) 
â€œthe case from the D of Kansas remains pending.  Thatâ€™s Sieverding v. WorldWest Limited Liability Company 05-cv-2510â€¦the Courtâ€™s order to the U.S. Marshals Service is that she will be taken into custody and heldâ€¦.she will not be released until we have certified copies of the dismissals of these casesâ€¦â€  CO Judge Nottingham 02/02/06 p. 7-8 closed case 02-cv-1950 D of Colorado...

â€œSo youâ€™ll stay out of jail if all these cases are dismissed in time for me to vacate the hearing.  Otherwise the next time you show up, you pack your toothbrush, because you are going to jail.â€  Judge Edward W. Nottingham to Mrs. Sieverding 2/16/06  closed CO case 02-cv-1950 p.14

 â€œAre the defendants suggesting that the plaintiff be jailed?â€  Judge Edward W. Nottingham 2/16/06 p. 6 D of CO closed case 02-cv-1950

â€œYou attached a consolidated motion to withdraw under duress of jailâ€¦and you include the Kansas Case â€¦you have 7 days to do this and furnish to this court that youâ€™ve done that  and serve that proof on the defendantsâ€¦.I will check out and make sure that you have dismissed all those cases.â€ Judge Edward W. Nottingham 2/16/06  p. 10-13 closed CO case to Mrs. Sieverding about open KS case.

 â€œâ€¦a bench warrant should issue for her arrestâ€  Christopher P. Beall, representing WorldWest LLP p.5. 02/02/06 closed case CO 02-cv-1950

â€œThe first case is the â€¦D of Minnesota case filed by Mr. and Mrs. Sieverding against the newspaper defendants and my law firm, Feagre &amp; Benson. (p. 6.)â€¦.we seek an order requiring the plaintiffs, Mr. and Mrs. Sieverding, to show cause why they should not be held in contempt (p. 11.)â€¦they do not have the right to counsel.  They do not have the right to a jury trial.  They do not have the right to a full and complete evidentiary hearing. (p. 14.)â€¦nothing short of incarceration will make them stop, and thatâ€™s an appropriateâ€ (p. 18.) Christopher P. Beall representing WorldWest LLP 9/2/05 closed case CO 02-cv-1950

â€œYou will file on your behalf a motion to voluntarily dismiss (p. 32)â€¦If you fail to withdraw those lawsuits, the next time youâ€™re in this court you better be prepared with your toothbrush, because you will be going to jail. (p.33.)â€ Judge Edward W. Nottingham, 9/2/05 closed case CO 02-cv-1950.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>â€œOn December 8, 2005â€¦.Mrs. Sieverding filed an entirely new pro se lawsuitâ€¦Kay Sieverding v. WorldWest Limitedâ€¦attached as Exhibit Aâ€¦.As a result the Newspaper Defendants also request that the Court require (Mr.) Sieverding appear and show cause why he should not be held in contempt of court for assisting (Mrs.) Sieverdingâ€ Respectfully submitted this 12th day of December â€¦ATTORNEYS FOR DEFENDANTS WorldWest Limited Liability (attached.)<br />
â€œthe case from the D of Kansas remains pending.  Thatâ€™s Sieverding v. WorldWest Limited Liability Company 05-cv-2510â€¦the Courtâ€™s order to the U.S. Marshals Service is that she will be taken into custody and heldâ€¦.she will not be released until we have certified copies of the dismissals of these casesâ€¦â€  CO Judge Nottingham 02/02/06 p. 7-8 closed case 02-cv-1950 D of Colorado&#8230;</p>
<p>â€œSo youâ€™ll stay out of jail if all these cases are dismissed in time for me to vacate the hearing.  Otherwise the next time you show up, you pack your toothbrush, because you are going to jail.â€  Judge Edward W. Nottingham to Mrs. Sieverding 2/16/06  closed CO case 02-cv-1950 p.14</p>
<p> â€œAre the defendants suggesting that the plaintiff be jailed?â€  Judge Edward W. Nottingham 2/16/06 p. 6 D of CO closed case 02-cv-1950</p>
<p>â€œYou attached a consolidated motion to withdraw under duress of jailâ€¦and you include the Kansas Case â€¦you have 7 days to do this and furnish to this court that youâ€™ve done that  and serve that proof on the defendantsâ€¦.I will check out and make sure that you have dismissed all those cases.â€ Judge Edward W. Nottingham 2/16/06  p. 10-13 closed CO case to Mrs. Sieverding about open KS case.</p>
<p> â€œâ€¦a bench warrant should issue for her arrestâ€  Christopher P. Beall, representing WorldWest LLP p.5. 02/02/06 closed case CO 02-cv-1950</p>
<p>â€œThe first case is the â€¦D of Minnesota case filed by Mr. and Mrs. Sieverding against the newspaper defendants and my law firm, Feagre &amp; Benson. (p. 6.)â€¦.we seek an order requiring the plaintiffs, Mr. and Mrs. Sieverding, to show cause why they should not be held in contempt (p. 11.)â€¦they do not have the right to counsel.  They do not have the right to a jury trial.  They do not have the right to a full and complete evidentiary hearing. (p. 14.)â€¦nothing short of incarceration will make them stop, and thatâ€™s an appropriateâ€ (p. 18.) Christopher P. Beall representing WorldWest LLP 9/2/05 closed case CO 02-cv-1950</p>
<p>â€œYou will file on your behalf a motion to voluntarily dismiss (p. 32)â€¦If you fail to withdraw those lawsuits, the next time youâ€™re in this court you better be prepared with your toothbrush, because you will be going to jail. (p.33.)â€ Judge Edward W. Nottingham, 9/2/05 closed case CO 02-cv-1950.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773040', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773036</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my experiences with federal court continued:

.)  2/12/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding new pleadings from plaintiffsâ€. (e60 David Brougham bill to CIRSA)
42.) 2/28/03 â€œTelephone call from David Brougham regarding new pleading from Sieverding and review pleading with Brougham as to most significant allegations.  Telephone call withâ€¦.and Clerkâ€™s officeâ€ (e73 Lettunich)
43.)  3/21/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding possible re-filed amended complaintâ€ (e10 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental risk Sharing)  Note, the amended complaint was not filed until 3/31/03.
44.) 3/24/03 â€œConfer with city attorney regarding status of amended complaint and service issue, telephone call to federal court clerk regarding sameâ€ (e61-62 Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing)
45.)  3/31/03 â€œtelephone calls to and from Lettunich regarding new filing, telephone call to federal court regarding sameâ€(e62 Brougham to CIRSA)
46.)4/23/03 Telephone call to court regarding status of recent ordersâ€ (e64) 
47.) 5/2/03 â€œReview actual court file re co-defendantâ€™s answerâ€.  () but the other records show that the co-defendants were emailing their filings so the â€œactual court fileâ€ must have had additional information not sent by the co-defendants. On 5/6, Broughamâ€™s wording was â€œreview Colorado Barâ€™s motion to dismissâ€. (e70 Broughamâ€™s bill to CIRSA)
48.) 5/6/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of defendant responsesâ€(e67)
49.) 6/11/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding response to motion to compelâ€ (e67 Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing)
50.) 6/16/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding 6/15 filingâ€  (e68 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing) 
51.)  6/16/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding status of plaintiffsâ€™ response regarding motion to dismissâ€ (e68 Brougham to CIRSA)
52.) 7/2/03 â€œTelephone call from clerk regarding certain motionsâ€ (e72) ....
55.)  7/30/03 â€œTelephone call to Court regarding latest filingsâ€  (e75)...

8/4/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding filings by plaintiffs since (7/31) orderâ€.  (e75 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental)
59.)  8/11/03â€œTelephone call to court clerk regarding post 7/31 filingsâ€e46
60.) 8/14/03â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of ruling on motionsâ€ e76 (Brougham to CIRSA)
61.) 8/15/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of pending motions and timing of rulingâ€. (e58  Brougham to Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London)
62.) 9/8/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding status of pending motionsâ€ (e76  Brougham to CIRSA)
63.) 9/09/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of motionsâ€ (e77)
64.) 9/24/03 â€œConfer with Lettunich and court clerk regarding status of pending motionsâ€ (e78 Brougham to CIRSA)
65.) 9/24/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of pending motions) (e58  Brougham to Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London)
65.) 10/07/03 â€˜Confer with court clerk regarding rule statusâ€™ (e78)
66.) 10/10/03 â€œTelephone calls to court clerk regarding new filingsâ€(e78)
67.) 10/14/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding filing of recommendation regarding pending motionsâ€ (e78, Brougham to CIRSA).  That recommendation was issued 10/20.
68.) 10/24/03 â€œreview 13 additional â€˜motionsâ€™ filed by plaintiffs.  Telephone call to court regarding status and acceptance or rejection of same.â€ (e79-80, Mr. Brougham, Hall &amp; Evans to CIRSA)
69.) 10/27/03 â€œConfer court clerk regarding filing dates and plaintiffsâ€™ latest filingsâ€ (e 80 Brougham to CIRSA
69.) 10/31/03 â€œReview actual court file regarding most recent pleadings, â€˜strikingâ€™ majority of same, confer with court clerk regarding sameâ€ (e80, Brougham to CIRSA)
70.) 11/21/03 â€œconfer with court clerk regarding status of pleadingsâ€ (e81)
71.) 12/2/03 â€œtelephone call to court clerk regarding status of 50 or more filingsâ€  (e81)
72.) 12/11/03  â€œReview actual court fileâ€ â€œconfer with clerks regarding case status, pending motionsâ€   â€œFurther conference with court staff regarding motion statusâ€ (e82, Brougham to CIRSA)
73.) 1/07/04 â€œConfer with court regarding status of plaintiff pleadings, pending motions, etc. Analyze motion to enjoin grounds, etc.â€ (.40) (e82, Brougham to CIRSA)
74.) 2/11/04 â€œâ€Telephone call to court regarding Plaintiffâ€™s latest filings.â€  (e83, Brougham to CIRSA)
2/17/04â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of recent plaintiff filings.â€(e83, Brougham to CIRSA)
76.) 3/23/04 â€œconfer with Court Clerk, city attorney, and Merrill regarding latest plaintiff filingsâ€ e85 (Brougham to CIRSA)

There are copies of the bills quoted here for ex parte conferences posted on D of Colorado 02-1950 Pacer on 4/12/07-4/31/07.  Anyone can download the bills for ex parte conferences with federal judicial personnel for 8 cents a page.  If you email me at kaysieverding@aol.com, I will email them to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my experiences with federal court continued:</p>
<p>.)  2/12/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding new pleadings from plaintiffsâ€. (e60 David Brougham bill to CIRSA)<br />
42.) 2/28/03 â€œTelephone call from David Brougham regarding new pleading from Sieverding and review pleading with Brougham as to most significant allegations.  Telephone call withâ€¦.and Clerkâ€™s officeâ€ (e73 Lettunich)<br />
43.)  3/21/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding possible re-filed amended complaintâ€ (e10 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental risk Sharing)  Note, the amended complaint was not filed until 3/31/03.<br />
44.) 3/24/03 â€œConfer with city attorney regarding status of amended complaint and service issue, telephone call to federal court clerk regarding sameâ€ (e61-62 Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing)<br />
45.)  3/31/03 â€œtelephone calls to and from Lettunich regarding new filing, telephone call to federal court regarding sameâ€(e62 Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
46.)4/23/03 Telephone call to court regarding status of recent ordersâ€ (e64)<br />
47.) 5/2/03 â€œReview actual court file re co-defendantâ€™s answerâ€.  () but the other records show that the co-defendants were emailing their filings so the â€œactual court fileâ€ must have had additional information not sent by the co-defendants. On 5/6, Broughamâ€™s wording was â€œreview Colorado Barâ€™s motion to dismissâ€. (e70 Broughamâ€™s bill to CIRSA)<br />
48.) 5/6/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of defendant responsesâ€(e67)<br />
49.) 6/11/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding response to motion to compelâ€ (e67 Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing)<br />
50.) 6/16/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding 6/15 filingâ€  (e68 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental Risk Sharing)<br />
51.)  6/16/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding status of plaintiffsâ€™ response regarding motion to dismissâ€ (e68 Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
52.) 7/2/03 â€œTelephone call from clerk regarding certain motionsâ€ (e72) &#8230;.<br />
55.)  7/30/03 â€œTelephone call to Court regarding latest filingsâ€  (e75)&#8230;</p>
<p>8/4/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding filings by plaintiffs since (7/31) orderâ€.  (e75 David Brougham to Colorado Intergovernmental)<br />
59.)  8/11/03â€œTelephone call to court clerk regarding post 7/31 filingsâ€e46<br />
60.) 8/14/03â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of ruling on motionsâ€ e76 (Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
61.) 8/15/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of pending motions and timing of rulingâ€. (e58  Brougham to Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London)<br />
62.) 9/8/03 â€œTelephone call to court regarding status of pending motionsâ€ (e76  Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
63.) 9/09/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of motionsâ€ (e77)<br />
64.) 9/24/03 â€œConfer with Lettunich and court clerk regarding status of pending motionsâ€ (e78 Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
65.) 9/24/03 â€œConfer with court regarding status of pending motions) (e58  Brougham to Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London)<br />
65.) 10/07/03 â€˜Confer with court clerk regarding rule statusâ€™ (e78)<br />
66.) 10/10/03 â€œTelephone calls to court clerk regarding new filingsâ€(e78)<br />
67.) 10/14/03 â€œConfer with court clerk regarding filing of recommendation regarding pending motionsâ€ (e78, Brougham to CIRSA).  That recommendation was issued 10/20.<br />
68.) 10/24/03 â€œreview 13 additional â€˜motionsâ€™ filed by plaintiffs.  Telephone call to court regarding status and acceptance or rejection of same.â€ (e79-80, Mr. Brougham, Hall &amp; Evans to CIRSA)<br />
69.) 10/27/03 â€œConfer court clerk regarding filing dates and plaintiffsâ€™ latest filingsâ€ (e 80 Brougham to CIRSA<br />
69.) 10/31/03 â€œReview actual court file regarding most recent pleadings, â€˜strikingâ€™ majority of same, confer with court clerk regarding sameâ€ (e80, Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
70.) 11/21/03 â€œconfer with court clerk regarding status of pleadingsâ€ (e81)<br />
71.) 12/2/03 â€œtelephone call to court clerk regarding status of 50 or more filingsâ€  (e81)<br />
72.) 12/11/03  â€œReview actual court fileâ€ â€œconfer with clerks regarding case status, pending motionsâ€   â€œFurther conference with court staff regarding motion statusâ€ (e82, Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
73.) 1/07/04 â€œConfer with court regarding status of plaintiff pleadings, pending motions, etc. Analyze motion to enjoin grounds, etc.â€ (.40) (e82, Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
74.) 2/11/04 â€œâ€Telephone call to court regarding Plaintiffâ€™s latest filings.â€  (e83, Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
2/17/04â€œConfer with court clerk regarding status of recent plaintiff filings.â€(e83, Brougham to CIRSA)<br />
76.) 3/23/04 â€œconfer with Court Clerk, city attorney, and Merrill regarding latest plaintiff filingsâ€ e85 (Brougham to CIRSA)</p>
<p>There are copies of the bills quoted here for ex parte conferences posted on D of Colorado 02-1950 Pacer on 4/12/07-4/31/07.  Anyone can download the bills for ex parte conferences with federal judicial personnel for 8 cents a page.  If you email me at <a href="mailto:kaysieverding@aol.com">kaysieverding@aol.com</a>, I will email them to you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773036', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773031</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 13:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my experiences with federal court continued:

â€œTelephone call from Dave Brougham (defense attorney for government defendants) advising me that the Clerk for Magistrate Schlatter advised that no Reply would be necessaryâ€. 6/24/03 (e88)

On 4/14/03, â€œConfer with Slezak regarding case assignment, Review fax regarding sameâ€. Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London, c/o Lord, Bissell &amp; Brook, Attm Walter Slezak, 115 S. LaSalle St. Chicago, IL 60603-3901 claim 6603013-1896 (e57)

After the conference with Walter Slezak in his role with Underwriters at Lloyds of London our lawsuit d of Colorado 02-1950 was transferred in Oct 2003 from Judge Matsch to Judge Edward Nottingham. No health reason was given and the transfer order was not signed by the court administrator as is standard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my experiences with federal court continued:</p>
<p>â€œTelephone call from Dave Brougham (defense attorney for government defendants) advising me that the Clerk for Magistrate Schlatter advised that no Reply would be necessaryâ€. 6/24/03 (e88)</p>
<p>On 4/14/03, â€œConfer with Slezak regarding case assignment, Review fax regarding sameâ€. Underwriters at Lloydâ€™s London, c/o Lord, Bissell &amp; Brook, Attm Walter Slezak, 115 S. LaSalle St. Chicago, IL 60603-3901 claim 6603013-1896 (e57)</p>
<p>After the conference with Walter Slezak in his role with Underwriters at Lloyds of London our lawsuit d of Colorado 02-1950 was transferred in Oct 2003 from Judge Matsch to Judge Edward Nottingham. No health reason was given and the transfer order was not signed by the court administrator as is standard<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773031', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773029</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my experience with federal courts continued

On 2/12/03,:â€œReview new letter from Sieverding to Tremaine regarding Jane Bennett and may city defendants. Telephone call to Dave Broughamâ€”discussed pleadings from Wisconsin court and Sieverding letter.  Conference call to Magistrate Schlatter.  Further discussion with Brougham on notice letter to Sieverding.â€(e86, Lettunich to City)

That&#039;s a verified bill for a long distance three way ex parte conference between city of steamboat springs colorado city attorney Anthony lettunich and David Brougham, attorney representing Lloyds of London, and former federal magistrate O.E. Schlatter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my experience with federal courts continued</p>
<p>On 2/12/03,:â€œReview new letter from Sieverding to Tremaine regarding Jane Bennett and may city defendants. Telephone call to Dave Broughamâ€”discussed pleadings from Wisconsin court and Sieverding letter.  Conference call to Magistrate Schlatter.  Further discussion with Brougham on notice letter to Sieverding.â€(e86, Lettunich to City)</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a verified bill for a long distance three way ex parte conference between city of steamboat springs colorado city attorney Anthony lettunich and David Brougham, attorney representing Lloyds of London, and former federal magistrate O.E. Schlatter.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773029', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773027</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my experience with federal courts continued:

â€œWhen Federal Magistrate Schlatter was asked â€œDo you think that if any attorney knowingly lies in court to hurt you and succeeds, that they should be liable for that?  His answer was â€œNoâ€ â€¦Judge Schlatter said â€œEven if the lawyer gives a false statement of law or a false statement of the facts, I would have to sit here and look at you and say no claimâ€ and â€œif any attorney makes up something that you think is a lie, thereâ€™s some likelihood that no theyâ€™re not liable for that if theyâ€™re representing a party that is opposed to your interestâ€ Asked again â€œIf an attorney makes a knowing false statement of law, you think they should have no liability?â€, Magistrate Judge Schlatter responded â€œYou have no claim against them for thatâ€ 05-01283 complaint p. 33.  (transcript on record)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my experience with federal courts continued:</p>
<p>â€œWhen Federal Magistrate Schlatter was asked â€œDo you think that if any attorney knowingly lies in court to hurt you and succeeds, that they should be liable for that?  His answer was â€œNoâ€ â€¦Judge Schlatter said â€œEven if the lawyer gives a false statement of law or a false statement of the facts, I would have to sit here and look at you and say no claimâ€ and â€œif any attorney makes up something that you think is a lie, thereâ€™s some likelihood that no theyâ€™re not liable for that if theyâ€™re representing a party that is opposed to your interestâ€ Asked again â€œIf an attorney makes a knowing false statement of law, you think they should have no liability?â€, Magistrate Judge Schlatter responded â€œYou have no claim against them for thatâ€ 05-01283 complaint p. 33.  (transcript on record)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773027', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773026</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My experience with the federal courts:
10/27/04 â€œrevise letters to Judge Tunheim; discussion with M. Chester and J. Walborn (former clerks for Judge Tunheim)â€ (e35 Jon Borger Faegre to Schaefer at Oâ€™Brien Bulter McConihie and Schaeffer in D.C.)

However, it is forbidden for ex clerks to have meetings about how a judge may react.  The judge is Minnesota federal judge Tunheim.  They wrote and asked him for an ex parte phone call.

â€œDavid Brougham has advised me that in the event that plaintiffs obtain service upon any of the municipal defendants he will be the attorney for such defendants.  In light of that fact, I will direct that Mr. Brougham also attend the status conferenceâ€ p. 7 â€œorder setting status conference 1/10/03 Magistrate Schlatterâ€ Colorado 02- 1950 document 9</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My experience with the federal courts:<br />
10/27/04 â€œrevise letters to Judge Tunheim; discussion with M. Chester and J. Walborn (former clerks for Judge Tunheim)â€ (e35 Jon Borger Faegre to Schaefer at Oâ€™Brien Bulter McConihie and Schaeffer in D.C.)</p>
<p>However, it is forbidden for ex clerks to have meetings about how a judge may react.  The judge is Minnesota federal judge Tunheim.  They wrote and asked him for an ex parte phone call.</p>
<p>â€œDavid Brougham has advised me that in the event that plaintiffs obtain service upon any of the municipal defendants he will be the attorney for such defendants.  In light of that fact, I will direct that Mr. Brougham also attend the status conferenceâ€ p. 7 â€œorder setting status conference 1/10/03 Magistrate Schlatterâ€ Colorado 02- 1950 document 9<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773026', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3773021</link>
		<dc:creator>kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 12:48:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;dixie blood&quot; The articles are all placed by persons associated with Mutual Insurance of Bermuda, which sells defamation and liability insurance but is not registered with any state insurance commission that I can find.  A restraining order was issued on me by Colorado Judge Garrecht on his finding that I &quot;molested&quot; Jane Bennett. Judge Garrecht specifically found that I did not &quot;harass&quot; Jane Bennett.  However, &quot;molestation&quot; was not in the complaint and I was not allowed to cross examine anyone as to whether or not I &quot;molested&quot; Jane Bennett.  She testified under oath that there was no offensive touching.  At the &quot;zoning&quot;  hearing by Judge Joel Thompson, later accused by the DEA of living with a cocaine dealer, it was determined that my copy of the city code was &#039;improperly certified&quot;.  The city council president, his lawyer from the Klauzer and Tremaine Steamboat Springs law firm, and the former city planning services commission all refused to let me borrow their &quot;certified&quot; copy of the city code. They said that I didn&#039;t have standing as an adjoining neighbor to enforce the zoning and development laws. The defendants say in various forums that my complaint was &quot;impossible to understand&quot; but when challenged they don&#039;t ask for clarification of a single sentence.  Her criminal charges were dismissed and the Routt County Colorado district attorney&#039;s office refuses to say why they were pursued.  I was followed by the police for going to Walmart, waiting for a red light to change, and passing out government corruption flyers in Steamboat Springs, CO. We estimated our economic, non personal., damages at $400,000 and they did not dispute our itemization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dixie blood&#8221; The articles are all placed by persons associated with Mutual Insurance of Bermuda, which sells defamation and liability insurance but is not registered with any state insurance commission that I can find.  A restraining order was issued on me by Colorado Judge Garrecht on his finding that I &#8220;molested&#8221; Jane Bennett. Judge Garrecht specifically found that I did not &#8220;harass&#8221; Jane Bennett.  However, &#8220;molestation&#8221; was not in the complaint and I was not allowed to cross examine anyone as to whether or not I &#8220;molested&#8221; Jane Bennett.  She testified under oath that there was no offensive touching.  At the &#8220;zoning&#8221;  hearing by Judge Joel Thompson, later accused by the DEA of living with a cocaine dealer, it was determined that my copy of the city code was &#8216;improperly certified&#8221;.  The city council president, his lawyer from the Klauzer and Tremaine Steamboat Springs law firm, and the former city planning services commission all refused to let me borrow their &#8220;certified&#8221; copy of the city code. They said that I didn&#8217;t have standing as an adjoining neighbor to enforce the zoning and development laws. The defendants say in various forums that my complaint was &#8220;impossible to understand&#8221; but when challenged they don&#8217;t ask for clarification of a single sentence.  Her criminal charges were dismissed and the Routt County Colorado district attorney&#8217;s office refuses to say why they were pursued.  I was followed by the police for going to Walmart, waiting for a red light to change, and passing out government corruption flyers in Steamboat Springs, CO. We estimated our economic, non personal., damages at $400,000 and they did not dispute our itemization.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3773021', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: dixie blood</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762778</link>
		<dc:creator>dixie blood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 11:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by SKdeA â€” April 22, 2007 @ 1:22 am&lt;/em&gt;

Don&#039;t be taken in by Kay&#039;s story. Google her name and you will that she has esculated a zoning dispute with a neighbor into an assault against the local government, local officials, the local, state and federal courts and many others including the bar.

She was jailed for contempt of court regarding abuse of process. She and her husband are complete kooks. They lost their zoning dispute and decided to take it out on everyone in sight. A restraining was issued to the neighbor involved in the zoning dispute because of repeated harrassment.

They sued the bar because they couldn&#039;t get a lawyer to take up their obviously frivolous cause.

She and her husband filed dozens of lawsuits pro se that are filled what one judge called â€œverbose, prolix, and impossible to understandâ€ language. Talk about sore losers!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Comment by SKdeA â€” April 22, 2007 @ 1:22 am</em></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t be taken in by Kay&#8217;s story. Google her name and you will that she has esculated a zoning dispute with a neighbor into an assault against the local government, local officials, the local, state and federal courts and many others including the bar.</p>
<p>She was jailed for contempt of court regarding abuse of process. She and her husband are complete kooks. They lost their zoning dispute and decided to take it out on everyone in sight. A restraining was issued to the neighbor involved in the zoning dispute because of repeated harrassment.</p>
<p>They sued the bar because they couldn&#8217;t get a lawyer to take up their obviously frivolous cause.</p>
<p>She and her husband filed dozens of lawsuits pro se that are filled what one judge called â€œverbose, prolix, and impossible to understandâ€ language. Talk about sore losers!!!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762778', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Karim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762730</link>
		<dc:creator>Karim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loyalty befor competence...shameless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loyalty befor competence&#8230;shameless.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762730', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: SKdeA</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762724</link>
		<dc:creator>SKdeA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 05:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kay Sieverding, that is awful.
Not in our name!
I hope to see some resolution in your case...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kay Sieverding, that is awful.<br />
Not in our name!<br />
I hope to see some resolution in your case&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762724', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Com-n-sense</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762683</link>
		<dc:creator>Com-n-sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth ... I have no hope. 

If someone of this low a caliber can become AG of the USA ... there is no hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth &#8230; I have no hope. </p>
<p>If someone of this low a caliber can become AG of the USA &#8230; there is no hope.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762683', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Com-n-sense</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762663</link>
		<dc:creator>Com-n-sense</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Either we are the most stupid people on the planet or the think we&#039;re the most stupid.  

Gonzo: &quot;I&#039;m an eye witness. I didn&#039;t see a thing.&quot; 

Please, after 9/11 when the same people that will illegally spy on us and keep our records of communication tell us that they can&#039;t find their own, they either think you a fool or you are a fool.  

We don&#039;t have any time to waste. We&#039;ve already have gone too far. Not only do we have to convict these criminals ASAP, we need to work overtime to repair</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Either we are the most stupid people on the planet or the think we&#8217;re the most stupid.  </p>
<p>Gonzo: &#8220;I&#8217;m an eye witness. I didn&#8217;t see a thing.&#8221; </p>
<p>Please, after 9/11 when the same people that will illegally spy on us and keep our records of communication tell us that they can&#8217;t find their own, they either think you a fool or you are a fool.  </p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have any time to waste. We&#8217;ve already have gone too far. Not only do we have to convict these criminals ASAP, we need to work overtime to repair<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762663', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762660</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 04:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America&#039;s going belly up financially...

...the Bushites are flooding the DOJ...

...the Bush family are CIA connected...

...the rich NOW have Blackwater AND the Patriot Act...

...America is in dangerous territory...

...DELUDE yourselves at your own risk...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America&#8217;s going belly up financially&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the Bushites are flooding the DOJ&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the Bush family are CIA connected&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;the rich NOW have Blackwater AND the Patriot Act&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;America is in dangerous territory&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;DELUDE yourselves at your own risk&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762660', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: powkat</title>
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		<dc:creator>powkat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 03:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does Gonzales still have pants?  Or have they burned away completely by now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Gonzales still have pants?  Or have they burned away completely by now?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762629', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: cincigal74</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762606</link>
		<dc:creator>cincigal74</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 02:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;She is the same person that I dont recall remembering&quot;?????What kind of talk is this?? These Senators are dumber  than Gonzo.Bush and Rove were probably rolling on the floor laughing at this.If Specter and Leahey had a brain between them they would have held him in contempt of congress.Bring on the third party before it is too late,if it isnt already.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;She is the same person that I dont recall remembering&#8221;?????What kind of talk is this?? These Senators are dumber  than Gonzo.Bush and Rove were probably rolling on the floor laughing at this.If Specter and Leahey had a brain between them they would have held him in contempt of congress.Bring on the third party before it is too late,if it isnt already.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762606', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: pre-Amerikkkan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762568</link>
		<dc:creator>pre-Amerikkkan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tell you what, either the dems impeach NOW or we form a third party to defeat dems and repugs in &#039;08!

WTF!  Impeach them already!  WHAT do they have to do to make you act on what you KNOW is happening here?

chebush has morphed into our &quot;shadow&quot; government.  who really knows what they plan to do next?  

We cannot wait, impeach or start the Mother of all 3rd parties!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tell you what, either the dems impeach NOW or we form a third party to defeat dems and repugs in &#8216;08!</p>
<p>WTF!  Impeach them already!  WHAT do they have to do to make you act on what you KNOW is happening here?</p>
<p>chebush has morphed into our &#8220;shadow&#8221; government.  who really knows what they plan to do next?  </p>
<p>We cannot wait, impeach or start the Mother of all 3rd parties!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762568', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: big papa</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762565</link>
		<dc:creator>big papa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caption contest:

&quot;I serv(ice) at the pleasure of...

...whomever in the WH will have me... SERIOUSLY!&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caption contest:</p>
<p>&#8220;I serv(ice) at the pleasure of&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8230;whomever in the WH will have me&#8230; SERIOUSLY!&#8221;&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762565', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: theswan</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762485</link>
		<dc:creator>theswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pukes produce &quot;the shit&quot; and then step in it.  Nothing changed!  They love it.
They Republicans just love their shithouse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pukes produce &#8220;the shit&#8221; and then step in it.  Nothing changed!  They love it.<br />
They Republicans just love their shithouse.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762485', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kay Sieverding</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/21/gonzales-chiara-paulose/comment-page-1/#comment-3762466</link>
		<dc:creator>Kay Sieverding</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wrote to the FBI in Denver and complained that I was imprisoned wihout being found to have commited contempt in the presence of the court, without being indicted, without an evidentiary hearing, without a government prosecutor, without a trial, etc.  I was in jail at the direction of federal judge Edward Nottingham, apparently a Bush appointee, without a trial for over 4 months. There was no term and no bail. I was told that I wasn&#039;t entitled to a lawyer and that I wasn&#039;t entitled to an evidentiary hearing.  My husband and I wrote to the FBI several times, and called them and asked them to investiage the crimes of conspiracy to deprive rights, unlawful imprisonment, RICO, witness intimidation, and ex parte defense court conferences, unrecorded except inadvertently, while I was in jail and my life was being threatened , and they wouldn&#039;t even acknowledge our communications. I have no criminal record and am a U.S. citizen. In what we wrote to the FBI,  we quoted U. S. Title 18, the criminal code,  and we couldn&#039;t understand why the FBI didn&#039;t write back but now with this expose it is clear that what the FBI has been doing and not doing is controlled by financial interests, in many instances.  In this case, foreign insurance companies, not registered to do business in Colorado, had a percieved financial advantage in violating my rights.  They were Lloyds of London, TIG Insurance, and Mutual Insurance of Canada.  Later I applied for habeas corpus and Judge Nottingham defaulted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wrote to the FBI in Denver and complained that I was imprisoned wihout being found to have commited contempt in the presence of the court, without being indicted, without an evidentiary hearing, without a government prosecutor, without a trial, etc.  I was in jail at the direction of federal judge Edward Nottingham, apparently a Bush appointee, without a trial for over 4 months. There was no term and no bail. I was told that I wasn&#8217;t entitled to a lawyer and that I wasn&#8217;t entitled to an evidentiary hearing.  My husband and I wrote to the FBI several times, and called them and asked them to investiage the crimes of conspiracy to deprive rights, unlawful imprisonment, RICO, witness intimidation, and ex parte defense court conferences, unrecorded except inadvertently, while I was in jail and my life was being threatened , and they wouldn&#8217;t even acknowledge our communications. I have no criminal record and am a U.S. citizen. In what we wrote to the FBI,  we quoted U. S. Title 18, the criminal code,  and we couldn&#8217;t understand why the FBI didn&#8217;t write back but now with this expose it is clear that what the FBI has been doing and not doing is controlled by financial interests, in many instances.  In this case, foreign insurance companies, not registered to do business in Colorado, had a percieved financial advantage in violating my rights.  They were Lloyds of London, TIG Insurance, and Mutual Insurance of Canada.  Later I applied for habeas corpus and Judge Nottingham defaulted.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762466', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Willy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Willy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 22:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t recall remembering that I remembered the unknown unknowns that aren&#039;t known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t recall remembering that I remembered the unknown unknowns that aren&#8217;t known.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3762362', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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