On his radio show Friday, Rush Limbaugh encouraged conservatives to “circle the wagons” around Alberto Gonzales, recycling his argument that winning elections is more important than governing. Here was Rush’s amusing defense of Gonzales:
Everybody on the Republican side now, along with the Democrats, wants to throw Alberto Gonzales overboard. He may be an idiot, I don’t know. He may be a weak attorney general. … It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
While Rush may be willing to disregard incompetence, other conservatives are not. Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) and Rep. Adam Putnam (R-FL) have called for Gonzales’ resignation. Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) put out a statement saying Gonzales “should have a frank discussion with the White House. If he and the president decide that he cannot be an effective leader…then he should resign.”
Even White House insiders acknowledge that Gonzales “hurt himself during testimony.” “Everyone’s putting their best public face on,” one source said, “but everyone is discouraged. Everyone is disappointed.”
Digg It!
Transcript:
RUSH: I have to tell you something, folks. I’m embarrassed, once again, by our side, some of the Republicans up in Washington. It just appears that they cannot think strategically. They have no idea how to circle the wagons around their own. Everybody on the Republican side now, along with the Democrats, wants to throw Alberto Gonzales overboard. He may be an idiot, I don’t know. He may be a weak attorney general. I think that’s why they — You know, Ashcroft was strong and Bush had to get rid of him, and now Gonzales is weak. We have to get rid of him! All this concocted stuff over the US attorneys? There’s no crime. There really isn’t even any incompetence here in the process of getting rid of the attorneys. What this is about is that Gonzales may have not remembered what happened when or where. But whatever the status of Gonzales, it’s beside the point. Why in the world is it only…? It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
Okay, Rush. I demand that all high-level democrats in the executive branch of the government resign!!! Oh, yeah……….
Adjust the Limtards oxy drip, he’s convoluted again.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:08 amGee - I don’t know Rush, maybe it has to do with the fact that they are totally corrupt, are idiots, and don’t give a rat’s ass about defending the constitution.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:09 amRush that is because GOPers, including yourself, are corrupt creepos!
April 21st, 2007 at 10:11 amAttorney Generals can be fired for political reasons too, right?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:13 amLimbaugh forgets that the entire GOP demanded that Pres. Clinton resign for lying under oath about getting BJs from Monica. Hypocrites like Rush would be wise to shut their yappers.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:14 amevery time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican
Well, no sh!t, Sherlock! Do you think there’s a pattern forming there, Limpballs. You should be able to figure that out . . . even with “half your brain tied behind your back just to make it fair”.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:14 amProving once again that competence and professionalism mean absolutely nothing to the cynical Republicans and their morally bankrupt philosophy that emphasizes winning at all costs.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:15 amWho are the sponsors that pay for this a$$clown’s airtime? Anyone got a list?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:21 amWhat an amazing coincidence….every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
April 21st, 2007 at 10:23 amGerman Telekom announces loss of 600000 customers 4 1st quarter 07.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:23 amsurprise, surprise. rush agrees with john cornyn - it’s not about competence, it’s about maintaining political advantage.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:28 amJay Randal:
Once Gonzales ADMITS to lying under oath, then we’ll ask for his resignation ; )
April 21st, 2007 at 10:30 amVerbalKint:
If Gonzales did not lie Thursday, why should he resign?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:31 amCould it be that enforcing the law is not what the Bushies are looking for from the DOJ?
How many violations of Federal procurement law go unnoticed under Gonzales?
Is the game to enrich the cronies, regardless of the legal requirements?
Are there enough cuts of the $170 billion spent annually on Iraq to keep everybody importtant in government or major media quite?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:32 amthank you, rush, for confirmation that you and your followers are nothing more than bush cultists who put party before the good of the country.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:33 amLooks like he’s back to “carrying water” for these “idiot”s,
April 21st, 2007 at 10:35 amI found this by John Gizzi of Human Events who caught up with David Marston who was fired by President Carter for political reasons and reveals how unconcerned over such political firing a Democrat-controlled Congress was in 1978.
What does Dave Marston think? “He’s trying to rewrite history,” was the response of the 64-year-old former prosecutor to the President who fired him. “Under the standard he has imposed on Gonzales, the President should have fired Atty. Gen. Griffin Bell in 1978.” Although it is so far unclear how much Gonzales knew about what the U.S. prosecutors were working on when they were forced out and what reasons were behind their exits, Marston pointed out that then-Rep. Joshua Eilberg (D.-Pa.) had actually called Carter on November 4, 1977 to demand Marston’s ouster and that the Prsident, in turn, called Bell and told him to “hurry up” in finding a new U.S. attorney in Philadelphia. Eilberg himself was the subject of a corruption probe by Marston’s office and, as Marston recalled to me, “the Justice Department was aware of this because I told Russell Baker [Bell’s top aide] that Eilberg was under investigation. And Russell Baker, who was a stand-up guy, confirmed this.”
A significant difference between his situation and those of the fired U.S. attorneys that Marston pointed out to me was that “Democrat controlled Congress in 1978 and did not investigate a Democratic President. Today, they control Congress and they will investigate the Republican Administration.”
And how president Carter lied about it… causing no furor. In reviewing the transcript of Carter’s “Today” interview, Marston pointed out that the opening segment featured a clip of Carter from a news conference on January 12, 1978 in which he is asked about the Marston sacking and says: “I’ve not interfered at all.”
“That was on January 12th,” the former prosecutor pointed out, “and yet the evidence shows that he had called his attorney general about replacing me two months earlier.
Do you think we will see more on this story of Jimmy Carter firing a U.S. Attorney for political reasons in future MSM stories about the Gonzales?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:36 amDan? Lying under oath is not determined by the person admitting it. The person is proven to be a liar when their testimony does not hold together. Gonzales lied at the hearing repeatedly and it can be proven.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:36 amlinda:
Both Carter and Clinton fired U.S. Attorneys for political reasons. Did you know that?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:37 am“It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!”
Well Duh! At this stage of the game I think it would be safe to say that the corrupt Republicans out number the corrupt Democrats by at least 50 to 1 so of course it’s always going to be a republican.
Rush seems to conviently forget that back in the 90’s we had a reverse situation.
Advice to Rush, sit back on that voulumonous ass of yours and wait, the tide will turn and it will be the Dems in the hot seat within a few years.
Corruption in this government is not new, it just changes hands from time to time.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:37 amJay Randal:
Please “prove” one such lie then.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:38 amJoe > several billion dollars in US cash vanished in Iraq, so that money could be used to buy off a lot of people. Each shrink-wrapped brick of $100 dollar bills is $100,000 bucks. Imagine a guy handing you a brick or two to shut up.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:40 amcant pill head see the wagons are on fire……
April 21st, 2007 at 10:42 amLOL Dan > Gonzo’s entire testimony was lies. He prepped for the hearing for 2 weeks, or more, so that was to try to hold his concocted story together. If you are honest, then no preparation is needed to testify.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:43 amSo, it shouldn’t be hard at all to “prove” one such lie, Jay Randal.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:46 amIf Gonzales did not lie Thursday, why should he resign?
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:31 am
Well, by nearly universal acclaim he did lie, so why should I answer this question?
I do think that having ZERO credibility with ANYONE is pretty good cause to resign an important public service job like AG. Gross, comical incompetence is a pretty good reason, too.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:49 am“It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!”
Harry Reid switched parties last week?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:49 amBoth Carter and Clinton fired U.S. Attorneys for political reasons. Did you know that?
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:37 am
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!
Very funny, Dan. You must be new to these parts, or you would realize this talking point was thoroughly debunked already.
You wouldn’t happen to know Frank Matthews from the other thread, would you? You sound an awful lot like him, like maybe the two of you are pals or something, coming here together to lay down some RNC talking points.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:52 amLOL Dan > I was not at the hearing, so a Democrat like Rep. Waxman will do the digging into Gonzo’s testimony.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:54 amSo, it shouldn’t be hard at all to “prove†one such lie, Jay Randal.
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:46 am
Well, Dan, even if Jay did prove such a lie, I’m sure it would somehow fail your standards for proof.
Tell me, Dan: did Scooter libby commit perjury and obstruction of justice, and if so, why?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:54 amVerbalKint:
By nearly universal acclaim, Jews were gassed in Nazi Germany too. I watched the entire testimony, and I am not aware of a single lie by Gonzales. Don’t worry, though, I won’t force you to answer the question.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:54 amThis is just how repukes are, they could care less about rule of law, could care less about with is right, could care less morals, it is all about them having power and corupt power at that.
We all know that, we see it everyday by the post of Fireant, Jake Jerk, Vaginal Disease Venus, Jerk Jerk, and Patty 1 inch, Exlax. They are shinning examples of the repukes, diseased minds.
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 21st, 2007 at 10:56 amIt won’t be hard to prove — you’ll see. As my southern friends like to say, don’t be in a rush to get an a$$ whuppin’, it’s a-comin’ for you bushtrolls and soon
April 21st, 2007 at 10:56 amP.S. I don’t know Frank Matthews, and I don’t know if Libby lied. If his conviction is upheld, and he is not pardoned, I will have to trust that the system did not punish an innocent man. Funny how you won’t answer my question though.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:58 amOh, I see we can add Dan the Sham to that list of idiots
April 21st, 2007 at 10:59 amDan = Jake
**eyes rolling**
April 21st, 2007 at 10:59 am“Frank Matthews”
Comment by VerbalKint — April 21, 2007 @ 10:54 am
April 21st, 2007 at 10:59 amDan IS Frank or Frank’s ultra-ego…
By nearly universal acclaim, Jews were gassed in Nazi Germany too. I watched the entire testimony, and I am not aware of a single lie by Gonzales. Don’t worry, though, I won’t force you to answer the question.
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:54 am
Pretty creepy post, Dan. Are you saying that Jews weren’t gassed in Nazi Germany? It sounds to me like you are saying that. And what do you mean by “Don’t worry”? Should I be worried about you “forcing” me to do something?!? Are you saying “we have ways of forcing you to do things”?!?
April 21st, 2007 at 10:59 amIt seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
Imagine that….
April 21st, 2007 at 11:00 amOh, so Jay Randal, when you claimed that Gonzales’s “lies” can be proven, you meant by someone else, not you? I am fine waiting until they are proven in a court of law as well.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:01 amI am neither Frank nor Jake. Can any of you simply argue the merits without the illogical ad hominem attacks?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:02 amAnd every time there’s an administration demand to keep a weak dishonest idiot in charge, it’s because s/he has an R after hir name.
I support getting rid of grossly incompetent lying political hacks, no matter what their party. (Hey, it’s one way to really downsize government.)
April 21st, 2007 at 11:02 amVerbalKint:
To answer YOUR questions, no.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:03 amThis is a boring thread so I’m not going to bother with it, but I’ve got one comment. I am not Dan. Unlike some of you, I do not post under other peoples’ nicks.
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April 21st, 2007 at 11:11 ammatthews.frank@gmail.com
It is kinda boring, I agree, with only one side of the argument answering questions and the other side resorting to ad hominems will continue. For those who want to discuss the merits of this topic, here are the unanswered questions I’ve asked so far:
The Attorney General can be fired for political reasons too, right?
If Gonzales did not lie Thursday, why should he resign?
Do you think we will see anything about Carter firing a U.S. Attorney for political reasons in future MSM stories about the Gonzales?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:15 amDan > Clinton’s lies were never proven inside a courtroom before a judge. He was taped under oath giving testimony to one of Ken Starr’s attorneys. When his testimony was shown to be false, because Monica admitted they had a sexual affair, then Bill was proven to have perjured himself. If Gonzo does not resign, then the next step will be an indictment of perjury, then eventually a trial before a judge.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:15 am“Once Gonzales ADMITS to lying under oath, then we’ll ask for his resignation ; )
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:30 am”
So is that what you did with CLINTON????? Ask for him to admit that he lied under oath????
HYPOCRITES…… That is all the Republican party is!!!! That is ALL it stands for…..
They are just on big lying sack of Bush!!!!
April 21st, 2007 at 11:16 amOne troll disappears only to be replaced my new troll spewing same fundie right wing talking points. Happens around here all of the time. “Jake’s” 3 month paid trolling spree at TP must have expired. He was rotated out, and “Dan” was rotated in.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:17 amIt seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
That couldn’t have anything to do with them being, like, in charge, could it? I mean, things are going so well…
April 21st, 2007 at 11:17 amBoth Carter and Clinton fired U.S. Attorneys for political reasons. Did you know that?
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:37 am
Hi Jake, whatever name you post under you’re still an ass. Did you know that?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:17 am“Please “prove†one such lie then.
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:38 am”
Gonzo: “I was not involved in the process…..”
Later we find out that he held many meetings with Sampson and even reviewed the information…..
THIS IS BEING INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS!!!
Therefore, HE LIED!!!
April 21st, 2007 at 11:21 amBy nearly universal acclaim, Jews were gassed in Nazi Germany too. I watched the entire testimony, and I am not aware of a single lie by Gonzales. Don’t worry, though, I won’t force you to answer the question.
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:54 am
“Dan” are you saying you don’t believe Jews were gassed in Nazi Germany? If you are, you are much too Reich Wing for anybody here to bodther responding to you any further.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:21 amDan, I have two question for you. Why are you circling the wagons around the Attorney General, and defending this administration? Even Nixon backers either cut their losses, including E. Howard Hunt, and admitted they were wrong, or faded into oblivion. Which way are you going?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:21 am“Circle the wagons?”
I’m beginning to think that we should address our president as: President GEORGE CUSTER.
And we all thought General George Custer was incompetent. Little did we know! Yikes! General George Custer is looking like a genius compared to President George Bush and his cronies.
The Bush administration is down on the mat and the count is about 9 now. Gonzales’ testimony is more fun than professional wrestling. Hulk Hogan couldn’t even save these sorry bunch of losers.
John
April 21st, 2007 at 11:22 amI don’t know if Gonzo lied or not (but there did seem to be some contradiction with some previous statements he’s made) but I do know one thing - he sure does have a crappy memory!
And he doesn’t seem to know what’s going on in his own department! Not sure what it is he does most of the time but it sure doesn’t seem as though he’s running his department!
As Jon Stewart pointed out, “He’s using the Ken Lay defense!” As in, “I don’t know, I don’t recall, I wasn’t involved but but but I’m SURE that nothing improper took place!” Gimme a break.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:24 am“It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!”
Gee, I wonder why.
- Tom
April 21st, 2007 at 11:24 amDan = Jake
**eyes rolling**
Comment by Zooey — April 21, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Hi Zooey - even before his disgusting display last evening of his misogynistic nature, we could smell Jake at a thousand miles. Did you see his Nazi comment?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:24 amAre you saying “we have ways of forcing you to do things�!?
Comment by VerbalKint — April 21, 2007 @ 10:59 am
Last night Jake was threatening Zooey and I with rape inuendos. He’s stooping to new lows now that he’s hiding behind other names.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:26 amJay Randal:
Clinton’s lies never needed to be proven inside a courtroom before a judge. He ADMITTED to lying. That’s even better (as I pointed out above re: Libby). Good luck with your indictment for perjury though.
RemoveBush:
Once he admitted to lying, I did call on Clinton to resign. I would do the same with Gonzales, so I’m not sure what you think is “hypocritical” with that. Could you try explaining your position without the invective and ad hominem?
RobG and Shane:
Could you try stating your position without the ad hominem as well?
Lone Voice of Reason:
Because, sir, non-terrorists are innocent until proven guilty in this country. As I said above, if Gonzales admits to lying under oath, I would call for his resignation as well.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:27 amHi Zooey - even before his disgusting display last evening of his misogynistic nature, we could smell Jake at a thousand miles. Did you see his Nazi comment?
Comment by Shane
Yep. He’s baiting.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:29 ammargaret:
Did you think Bill or Hillary Clinton had “crappy” memories when they testified “I don’t know” and “I don’t recall” more than Gonzales did?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:29 amSad, sad. Alberto Gonzales only troll support has been reduced to Holocaust deniers. Oh, and obese, drugged-out junkies with erectile dysfunction.
-GSD
April 21st, 2007 at 11:29 am“It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!â€
Isn’t it funny that these trolls are their own counterpoint?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:31 amJake/Dan,
You don’t get to dictate behavior around here, since your behavior is vile at best.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:31 amlinda:
Both Carter and Clinton fired U.S. Attorneys for political reasons. Did you know that?
but they didnt want to fire all and had alberto gonzalez correct it
April 21st, 2007 at 11:32 amWAAAAHHHHH! More Oxycontin and boner pills illegal immigrant house cleaner.
WAHHHHHH!!!
CLINTON!!!!!
WAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!!
More Oxycontin and boner pills illegal immigrant house cleaner.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:33 amAs I told VerbalKint, I am not a Holocaust denier. Is ANYONE willing to discuss this issue based on the merits?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:34 am“RemoveBush:
Once he admitted to lying, I did call on Clinton to resign. I would do the same with Gonzales, so I’m not sure what you think is “hypocritical†with that. Could you try explaining your position without the invective and ad hominem?
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 11:27 am”
My point is that what you are saying is that only when someone admits that they lied under oath should they be held accountable……
Nice to see that you care about the rule of law we have in the US, or I should say we HAD.
It can be PROVEN very easily that Gonzo lied under oath. His entire testomony does not match what 3 or 4 other witnesses have stated. If the others match up and his does not, does that mean that the other 4 got together and worked out thier statements together to burn Gonzo??? Or….. Does it meant that the other 4 gave truthful accounts and Gonzo LIED???
A FIFTH grader could figure that out!!!!
April 21st, 2007 at 11:35 am“Is ANYONE willing to discuss this issue based on the merits?
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 11:34 am”
It’s clear your not Jake, and never have been……
April 21st, 2007 at 11:37 amI’m not Jake. Please point to one “vile” statement I’ve made on this thread.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:38 amYes, RemoveBush, someone above thinks that Waxman can “prove” it easily too. I will await such proof.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:38 amDan, Gonzo didn’t even want speak under oath. That is who is upholding justice in the highest court. You seem cordial enough, and respectful enough, but examine the evidence.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:40 amIt seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
well, rusty, since there are only republicans in charge, if someone needs to resign in disgrace, it only leads to the conclusion that a republican is the one who needs to go
(or, UU. could hire some democrats to fire in the future….)
April 21st, 2007 at 11:42 amRrriiinnnngggggg…..
“Hello, Dick? It’s me, Rush!”
“Whadda ya want” (’stupid fat ass…’)
“I wanna know if its OK with you if I go after Gonzo, I’m running out of
people to attack!”
“What makes you think I give a flyin’ fock about that stupid little
incompetent real estate lawyer? (’or you either, frickin druggie’)
“Hey, I just thought that, since we were best buds and all now, and well, I’d be off the air if it wasn’t for you, thought you should know…”
“Take a hike, blimpo, I’m packing for Dubai, and I don’t have time for your pathetic drivel anymore. I just used you to buy some time, and if you think there’ll be a condo waiting for you on the Persian Gulf, you’re mistaken. Try Panama City, it’s on the gulf, too… Hahahaha.”
April 21st, 2007 at 11:44 am(stupid git)
Dan sounds more like ‘michael’ to me.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:45 amI’m not Jake. Please point to one “vile†statement I’ve made on this thread.
Comment by Dan
Having problems with reading comprehension now, Jake? I said your BEHAVIOR is vile. YOU are vile and disgusting.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:47 amDan sounds more like ‘michael’ to me.
Comment by ∞Ω
The “michael” of yesterday was Jake.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:48 amDan,
How long have you visited here? Several posters have tried this angle, you know the whole “proof” gambit and was debunked time and time again. It’s really annoying to have to do it all over again for you the next idiot to appear. So take your supposed victory and go butt a stump.
The days of the fascists are coming to a close. You pathetic brown shirt fascist, supposed Christian Conserv666ative, moral majority, contract with America, pewks have been seen through move to North Korea where that shit still works.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:49 amComment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 11:38 am
Okay Dan you keep fighting the good fight. Obviously you don’t love America or the constitution just like Limbaugh. You both think winning elections is more important than this country.
You might want to move that deck chair another hundred times but the ship is still going down.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:49 amIt would seem that all these hateful people who come here to agitate ever can put forth as a defense is Clinton Clinton Clinton. It’s become so predictable I can only laugh.
Now back to the topic at hand - Rush seems to think it that it’s okay to have a “weak attorney general” who doesn’t know what’s going on in his department. An attorney general who attends meetings and doesn’t know what was discussed at the meetings! If Alberto doesn’t know what’s going on who does? Does anyone? The incompetance is astounding!
He’s either lying or he’s tragically incompetant. There - the right wing likes things in black and white. Choose which one it is! Either way he shouldn’t be this nation’s “top cop”!
April 21st, 2007 at 11:56 amThe “michael†of yesterday was Jake.
Comment by Zooey
Now I’m really confused.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:57 amI was thinking ‘Jake’ might have been posing as ‘j.j.’.
Shane, they say it’s the fat rats are the the first off the burning ship, or mabey it’s the sinking ship.
April 21st, 2007 at 11:58 amNow I’m really confused.
I was thinking ‘Jake’ might have been posing as ‘j.j.’.
Comment by ∞Ω
That was either a new one, or “Howsad” reincarnated.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:02 pmThe lard ass, drug addled, gas bag, who takes someone else’s Viagra to help him bang fourteen yearl old hookers in the Dominican Republic speaks…to the knuckle dragging neandrthal troglodytes of the Reichwing Party of closeted pedophiles and crooks.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:03 pmThat was either a new one, or “Howsad†reincarnated.
Comment by Zooey
DOH!!
April 21st, 2007 at 12:14 pmIt’s like keeping up with how many times Gonzo said “I don’t recall”.
Dan, you are irritating everyone with BS we know is BS.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/08/podesta-rove/
That is what Zooey is refering to as vile behavior. We know you are distorting the facts, the truth on this matter has been covered here before, but you keep on at it.
It is one of the major things that irritates us about the rightwing.
Oh, and also, the fact that you guys just love to point to someone else and, much like 3 year olds, whine “But he did it too.” That is not an argument, that is not moral, that is stupid and a sign of massive irresponsibility.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:15 pmI agree with #16.
Waterboy has his hands full with this group. From his mouth on Nov 8, 2006:
“And I believe my side is worthy of victory, and I believe it’s much easier to reform things that are going wrong on my side from a position of strength. Now, I’m liberated from having to constantly come in here every day and try to buck up a bunch of people who don’t deserve it, to try to carry the water and make excuses for people who don’t deserve it. I just — I did not want to sit here and participate, willingly, in the victory of the libs, in the victory of the Democrat [sic] Party by sabotaging my own.
watch it at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfWyFY1RK68
What we all should realize is that it must be tough to take on the GOP side. After years of conservative values being pounded against those weak kneed liberals they have to watch incompetence on a scale unknown in our countrys history
April 21st, 2007 at 12:17 pmDOH!!
It’s like keeping up with how many times Gonzo said “I don’t recallâ€.
Comment by ∞Ω
It’s easier keeping track of the damned trolls!
April 21st, 2007 at 12:18 pm“It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!”
That is hilarious. Of course the demands for resignations is of Republics. They are the ones who are breaking the law. They are the ones who are turning our country into a fascist state. They are the ones who are stomping on the constitution. They are the ones who are bankrupting our country.
If there are Democrats who are doing these things, I would like to know who they are (other than Jefferson whom the Democrats have already taken care of by denying him seats on committees).
April 21st, 2007 at 12:18 pmIt’s fer tha gud of the kuntry that Gonzolas stays in offiss evin tho he aint no gud.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:20 pmOkay, if the post doesn’t show up: Dan, this has been covered before. Your side has been debunked on the “Clinton did it too” claim.
While I have no idea who Marston is, his name doesn’t even come up in wikipedia in reference to anything (Surprising, considering that Carter was not a popular president) I do know that Clinton did not mass-fire attorneys in the middle of his second term.
A lie does not get any truer with repetition, and frankly if you are wondering why Zooey is accusing you of vile behavior, repeating talking points which have been debunked on THIS FRIGGING SITE doesn’t exactly win very much respect from the regulars here.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:22 pm“If Gonzales did not lie Thursday, why should he resign?” Of course he didn’t lie, he just didn’t remember. I say that an Attorney General that says “I can’t recall” or “I don’t remember” 74 times in the course of 4 hours is unfit for duty. Do we really need an AG who is pre-Alzheimer’s? The sorry fact is that Gonzo has less qualifications to be AG than any of the US Attorney’s they fired. He is an embarrassment and has done more to corrupt our system of justice than all other AG’s combined.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:23 pm“If his conviction is upheld, and he is not pardoned, I will have to trust that the system did not punish an innocent man. ”
Excuse me Dan…how would pardoning Libby make him an innocent man? You are hilarious and your talking points are right out of the RNC handbook. I find it amazing that when one troll is either kicked off this board or leaves, an identical troll pops up.
Dan, I suggest you go down to your local JC and take a course in critical thinking. You desperately need it.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:29 pmI’ve seen some really stupid comments lately, but now I believe I’ve seen the worst:
Once Gonzales ADMITS to lying under oath, then we’ll ask for his resignation ; )
Comment by Dan — April 21, 2007 @ 10:30 am
April 21st, 2007 at 12:29 pmIt seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
You know… Rush might be on to something… what is up with all these corrupt republicans?
April 21st, 2007 at 12:29 pmShane, they say it’s the fat rats are the the first off the burning ship, or mabey it’s the sinking ship.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — April 21, 2007 @ 11:58 am
Good thing so many neocons already have practice at desertion.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:30 pmIt’s easier keeping track of the damned trolls!
Comment by Zooey — April 21, 2007 @ 12:18 pm
Since they all share one brain the only difference is style not substance.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:33 pmI tried being a conservative for a few minutes one day, and the only way you can defend them is either lie, be a hypocrite, or bring up stuff that happened a a decade or more ago.
Such is why Dan must bring up Carter to try and defend AGAG. AGAG lied under oath DAN, and it would appear he is working for Rove and the RNC, not Bush. Not to forget that AGAG lied under oath as well. Stick with today Dan, rehashing the old does not excuse the new, that’s a tired old habit the Republicans use and it just wont spin anymore.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:34 pmW.G.A.F’inf.F. what fat ass says? He’s a buffoon, good for laughs but scary that the double-digit IQ’s lissin’a him.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:36 pmThe RupliRats throw one another overboard only to discover they are on a bus,not a keeling seagoing vessel, heading for a cliff, and not the edge of the earth, in desperation they keep throwing RepuliRats overboard and under the wheels hoping they will act as a chock, but the bus has too much momentum and speed for a soft fleshy chock to subdue and sails over it with only a slight jarrring motion and a cry from the abandoned chock rat as it careens toward the rocky edge of the abyss.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:42 pmThanks, Bruce Gorton. Always more articulate than my “f*ck you!” :-)
April 21st, 2007 at 12:43 pmZep Tepi
I would put it more as follows:
The Republicans are throwing people overboard in the hopes of avoiding sinking, but they keep on aiming for those dratted icebergs.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:45 pmRegarding the attorney general issues.
April 21st, 2007 at 12:46 pmOne core issue that has not come out yet or not much is even questioned. Who slipped this attached bill into the larger bill. Who drew it up and slipped it in? Where did that come from.
Can anyone clear that up?
Thanks
Billy
Can anyone clear that up?
Thanks
Billy
I didn’t watch the entire trial, but Dianne Feinstein asked Gonzales that same question. Of course, he didn’t know.
April 21st, 2007 at 1:00 pmComment by Zep Tepi — April 21, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
You are such an optimist!
April 21st, 2007 at 1:18 pmDan:
1 lie: “I do not recall”. multiply that by 72 and you have the issue. If the man running the Justice Department, was former White House Counsel to W., was a former member of the Texas Supreme Court and a licensed member of the Bar cannot ‘recall’ something he is being asked to ‘recall’ under oath, then there are two possibile options:
1. He is an incompetent IDIOT (which arguably can be refuted by his resume….ARGUABLY)
or.
2. HE
IS
LYING
There are e-mails and documents as well as sworn testimony that puts him in meetings and at the center of this controversy. He now says he doesn’t recall anything. That means he’s full of it!
April 21st, 2007 at 1:36 pmPeople,
April 21st, 2007 at 2:46 pmWhy, why, WHY, do you all leap to respond to the foolish rantings of creatures like “Dan”? He and his kind appear to have some kind of magical hold on you all, that makes you respond to his blatant idiocy as though it were reasoned or logical. IGNORE HIM, for your sanity and peace of mind.
Hey Limbaugh,
Did you ever think that the reason why most cries for resignations are for Republicans is that they may deserve it????? !!!!!!
Incomptence. Cronyism. Greed. Intolerance. Bigotry. Warmongering. Wanting to thrust their religion down everyone else’s throat? Curbing civil rights. Looking out for themselves and not their fellow man. Disenfranchising legitimate voters. Need I go on?
Face it, look around you, conservatism is a failure. Wake up America.
April 21st, 2007 at 2:49 pmI remember when Limpballz was very concerned with White House travel office staffing scandals (in his mind) and now he don’t give 2 shits about the Constitution.
Limpballz = CUA!!! = FACIST!!!
April 21st, 2007 at 3:03 pmWhy, all this commentary has been disgraceful. In my day, no one would ever slander the office of the President of the United States in such a way. This great nation was built on respect - something I haven’t read here so far tonight. It seems to me that people hate President Bush just because he stole the presidency (twice). And then led the country into an illegal war. That has cost us incredible treasure and human lives. Not to mention untold hundred of thousands of innocent Iraqi deaths.
But I ask you, why would anyone defame this President or this broadcaster in the face of such things? Just because the President has ruined this country - possibly for good, and this broadcaster attempts to protect the outright idiocy that comes from the White house, shouldn’t we walk lock step into hell? What good would it be to listen to the “liberal media” and their facts and what not. The President of the United States is driving this country into the ground before our very eyes, and we must salute him. How can we not applaud our own deaths? Are you unpatriotic?! This is America! Our ancestors died to let this as*hole ruin it for everybody for all time. Don’t put up a fight. Quietly put you seat back into a reclining position and enjoy the ride into hell. Bless the pentagon.
we will be okay.
just submit.
sa
April 21st, 2007 at 3:11 pmWith the exploding scandals at the Justice Department and the World Bank enveloping his administration, President Bush voiced “full confidence” in Alberto Gonzales and Paul Wolfowitz this week. But as history has shown, there is no more certain confirmation of the criminality, ethical-wrong doing or imminent departure of a Bush team player than the President’s expression of confidence in him.
For the details, see:
April 21st, 2007 at 3:34 pm“President Bush, Confidence Man.”
It would be nice to see this guy get his due, but what difference does it really make if he resigns? Does anyone think George W. Bush will appoint an honest, ethical, responisble AG? No. This is about rigging elections, Bush will do everything to help rig elections to get Republicans elected. He’ll appoint whoever Rove tells him to.
April 21st, 2007 at 3:56 pmCould Rush Limbaugh be any more stupid?
April 21st, 2007 at 3:58 pmI agree with Rush… defend Gonzales to the last. The Republican party must go down in flames, and what better way to help that along then to back an attorney general that has proven his penchant for mendacity and obsfucation of the facts.
April 21st, 2007 at 4:01 pmComment by sa — April 21, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Why, all this commentary has been disgraceful. In my day, no one would ever slander the office of the President of the United States in such a way. This great nation was built on respect - something I haven’t read here so far tonight.
Yeah, and when a**hole presidunce Botch shows some respect for the Constitution and the rule of law then maybe, just ph*cking maybe, I’ll let up…but, then, there’s other shit he’s ph*cked up, right? So maybe I won’t let up!!!
It seems to me that people hate President Bush just because he stole the presidency (twice).
Not really! He got a free pass on 9/11 and he PH*CKING BLEW IT!!!!
And then led the country into an illegal war. That has cost us incredible treasure and human lives. Not to mention untold hundred of thousands of innocent Iraqi deaths.
Now, we agree.
But I ask you, why would anyone defame this President or this broadcaster in the face of such things? Just because the President has ruined this country - possibly for good, and this broadcaster attempts to protect the outright idiocy that comes from the White house, shouldn’t we walk lock step into hell?
Now, I think you need some different meds maybe…or, is this sarcasm?
What good would it be to listen to the “liberal media†and their facts and what not.
There’s no such thing as a “liberal media†in the MSM. Just doesn’t exist.
The President of the United States is driving this country into the ground before our very eyes,…
We agree again.
…and we must salute him.
Bullsh!t!
How can we not applaud our own deaths? Are you unpatriotic?! This is America! Our ancestors died to let this as*hole ruin it for everybody for all time. Don’t put up a fight. Quietly put you seat back into a reclining position and enjoy the ride into hell. Bless the pentagon.
Is this again some kind of babbling sarcasm or are you in need of a trip to the pharmacy?
we will be okay.
Promise or hope to die?
TP–Are you going to post this???
April 21st, 2007 at 4:21 pmThanks to all the redneck, hick-a-billy bobs who want their thinking done for them, this man has millions of listeners daily.
It’s so pathetic, you have to laugh.
April 21st, 2007 at 4:46 pmListening to the “moral outrage” of Dems wanting to dump the first Hispanic AG is easy to understand when I consider the “courageous” stand they took in “dumping” the incompetent Janet Reno……..who was the living embodiment of the Peter Principle.
Have a great weekend, Progs!!
April 21st, 2007 at 4:54 pmThis sums Rush Limbaugh up nicely!
April 21st, 2007 at 4:56 pm
Gonzalez stated 74 times before lunch that he could not remember or recall his meetings or discussions, including those with the most powerful man in the world. He should be fired because he obviously doesn’t have the memory to handle this job. When the man needs to be reminded that he had a meeting with the President, his mental priorities must be elsewhere. It’s a wonder he remembers his pants in the morning.
April 21st, 2007 at 5:07 pmPoor Dan, bringing up what might have been a scandal, 30 years ago, as if that somehow makes today’s events ok.
150 years ago, slavery was legal, and slaves were property, not people. Under current Republican logic, if a Republican were caught owning slaves, it would be ok, because Democrats owned slaves 150 years ago.
Someone must have never told the trolls that two wrongs don’t make a right.
April 21st, 2007 at 5:33 pmBy all means, Rush, circle the wagons. The more Republicans circle around and support the Bush Administration the more voters they lose.
Eventually, the Republican Party will be reduced to its core; a bunch of super wealthy elitists and their conned evangelical and/or fascist sheep, waiting for the Rapture. In fact, they’re pretty much at that point right now.
April 21st, 2007 at 5:37 pmI don’t think that two wrongs make a right, Briseadh na Faire. If it was fine for the Democrats back then, it is hypocrisy to complain about it now. See the difference?
April 21st, 2007 at 6:00 pmFirst off, I wasn’t aware of Carter’s actions then.
Second, even assuming hypocracy, does that excuse current actions?
Should we allow the Bush Administration a free pass on every violation of law, merely by pointing out that other Administrations violated the law?
What about the next Administration? Will Republicans be forever barred from complaining about a Democratic President who deceives the country into a War of Agression? Will they forever be silenced should a Democratic President who listens in on citizens without a warrant? Can they not complain when a Democratic President imprisons a citizen for years without ever filing charges?
Must they tacitly agree to a Democratic President who nullifies hundreds of laws through the use of signing statements?
Will they be forced to keep quiet if a Democratic President orders the DoJ to only investigate Republicans and turn a blind eye to corruption by Democrats?
If you think it is right and just that Republicans cry out against the above-mentioned actions, are you then supporting hypocracy yourself?
April 21st, 2007 at 6:19 pmBnF you rock!
The Republicans claimed that they were going to restore honor and integrity to the WH, right? Instead, they have set the bar for acceptable behavior to new lows!
April 21st, 2007 at 6:24 pmNot “new” lows. How many times do I have to explain this? If we want to take out all political considerations for U.S. Attorneys, then change the law for future Presidents. But don’t try to change the law ex post facto, Briseadh na Faire.
April 21st, 2007 at 6:47 pmIt seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
By golly, I think you’re onto something there, Lush!
April 21st, 2007 at 6:55 pmDan -
I would have to say, thank god for the “internets” we were able to catch it this time. If that happened under Carter then that was also wrong. I was only two at the time, so I don’t know what the context of that firing was. Let’s assume that you and Dave Marston are accurate. Then the logical answer is that it was wrong then and it is wrong now. We are dealing with the current situation, and I assume, from your statement, that you also feel that it is wrong and holds the potential for obstruction of justice. I, personally, would never put party above country when it comes to the lead law inforcement officer in the country.
April 21st, 2007 at 7:06 pmLush Limpbaughll and his Embicile in Broadcasting network should be shipped to Iraq to help “win” his buddy’s war. After all I don’t think he could still have those anal cysts after all these years of sitting on that lardass, could he?
April 21st, 2007 at 7:11 pm# 17. I would have you read this article before posting more inaccurate information.
http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/ stories/ 2007/ mrcattorneys2.html
April 21st, 2007 at 7:23 pmWho said anything about changing the law ex post facto? Not I. Let’s just enforce the laws we have about obstructing justice, lying to Congress, perjury, etc., etc., etc.
Oh, and whatever wrongdoing President Carter is alleged to have done regarding Marston, I do believe that after 30 years, the Statute of Limitations has lapsed. If you and/or the Republicans were so outraged about it, charges should have been filed in a timely fashion.
April 21st, 2007 at 7:30 pmJTitor, thanks for the link. From the article:
Marston’s, and your, credibility just plummetted.
April 21st, 2007 at 7:38 pm“It would be nice to see this guy get his due, but what difference does it really make if he resigns? Does anyone think George W. Bush will appoint an honest, ethical, responisble AG?”
The problem Bush is going to face when Gonzo resigns is that he is going to have a hell of a time getting a new AG past the Senate. They will be asking questions about protecting the constitution, protecting rights to privacy, torture and all those other pesky topics that the Republics and George would like to be kept quiet. The Democrats will be able to try all those issues in the public eye while attempting to confirm a new AG. It’s going to be a blast. I can hardly wait. It is Bush’s worst nightmare.
April 21st, 2007 at 8:03 pm129 - I think Bush’s worst nightmare would be a stain on Jeff Gannon’s blue shirt….
April 21st, 2007 at 8:23 pmBush solves the Gonzales problem very easily.
He appoints Carol Lam and she gets quickly confirmed by the Senate.
Scandal over! On to the important bisiness of the Republic
April 21st, 2007 at 8:32 pmI thought Rush said that he was tired of carrying the water pail for the republicans?
April 21st, 2007 at 8:56 pmEveryone is passing up on the real issue ignored by Dan. Can anyone cite a single instance when Gonzo told the truth on Thursday except for those instances where he admitted having ‘misspoken’ in prior testimony?
April 21st, 2007 at 8:57 pm“It seems, every time someone gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar, it’s always a Republican!”
April 21st, 2007 at 9:05 pmAnd we thought they were just interested in pages!
April 21st, 2007 at 9:08 pm“It seems, every time someone gets caught with his finger in a page, it’s always a Republican!â€
April 21st, 2007 at 9:22 pmThe very fact that this…
…drug addicted felon…
…holds sway over the conned’self-serving Bushites…
…should be ALL the proof THINKING Americans need…
…to move heaven and EARTH to DESTROY the right wing conservative movement…
…these HYPOCRITES, cultists, and inbred idol worshippers…
…hate liberals MORE than incompetence, corruption, and TREASON…
…and are willing to sacrifice our democratic republic for nothing more than…
…political bragging rites…
April 21st, 2007 at 9:28 pmDan asked, illogically, If Gonzales did not lie Thursday, why should he resign?
He certainly DID lie, but why isn’t gross incompetence and utter mismanagement adequate reason to resign??? By his own admission (smoke screen), he can’t manage even the most fundamental parts of the job. He can’t manage interactions of WH and DOJ, to name one.
April 21st, 2007 at 9:36 pmWhile Rush may be willing to disregard incompetence, other conservatives are not. ….
heh….incompetance.
Can you explain then how Janet Reno lasted eight years?
Oh yeah, she knew the truth about the files.
April 21st, 2007 at 10:11 pmIf it was fine for the Democrats back then, it is hypocrisy to complain about it now. See the difference?
Comment by Dan #120
Dan,
…if you KNEW that situations and circumstances like those being currently investigated in the criminal Bushite junta…
…existed and were being perpetrated during past “Democratic administrations”…
…but did NOTHING about it…
…except IMPEACH a president for “lying” about a personal indiscretion…
…THEN YOU are a miserable FAILURE as a citizen…
…WE Liberal Progressives on the other hand are NOT going to make that same mistake (that you’ve made)…
…we’re going for Bushiva, L’il Dick’s and ALL of their cronies’ jugulars…
…politically, personally, legally, economically and ANY other way we can…
…in order to see to it that JUSTICE is served…
…and that our “DIVERSE” democratic republic survives and prospers…
…so YOU can either join us…
…or step aside…
April 21st, 2007 at 10:14 pmRe: It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
Well, considering it is a Republican administration…
April 21st, 2007 at 10:43 pm…I hate it when I clear the board of inbreds…
…they’re so…
…entertaining…
…in an annoying sort of way…
April 21st, 2007 at 11:19 pmRe: It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!
Gosh. Do ya think it might have something to do with the fact that none of Bush’s appointees are Democrats?
April 21st, 2007 at 11:23 pmComment by Madame Defarge #143
…I’ve loved your moniker since high school…
…and your character of course…
…”off with their heads”…
hahahahahaha!!!!
April 21st, 2007 at 11:38 pmDan- read this
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:10 amUS legal code 18 section 1502
it makes it illegal to fire a US attorney if it interferes with an investigation.
of course, you being a republican shill, & all, and telling half truths & lies, will ignore the laws of america, and its Constitution & bill of rights to keep your pockets lined & your party in power.
Why do republicans hate America?
big papa,
Thanks. I’ve got a lot of knitting to do.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:13 amRepublicans are lining up to disavow Gonzales, and all Limpy can do is blame them. Goes to show that there really is no honor among thieves.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 amMaybe I need to remind the trolls that say Alberto Gonzales didn’t break any laws? I would say neither was Scooter Libby guilty of a crime until it was investigated. It was determined that obstruction of justice for intentionally deceiving a grand jury investigating a crime was going to be Mr. Libby’s downfall.
Now we look at one of the 8 attorneys fired, Carol Lam. She was investigating Jerry Lewis R-San Diego for his involvement with Duke Cunningham and his political action committee, Future Leaders PAC, and the investment group, Cerberus Capital Management. This investigation abruptly shelved after the firing of Carol Lam.
This is just one of three potential legal issues facing the Whitehouse and the AG. What did Alberto know and when did he know it? Lets look at the email…. hmmm. No email. Because it had been deleted. While any one of these facts don’t appear to illegal, all are potentially illegal. The Whitehouse should be scared? In effect, what this does is paint the Republicans as corrupt, liars, and cheats. The Duke Cunningham scandal was dying down before this emerged, and it’s only going to get worse. Republicans are running from this administration faster then Foley to a kid’s birthday party.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 amRepublicans are lining up to disavow Gonzales, and all Limpy can do is blame them. Goes to show that there really is no honor among thieves.
Comment by Karim
Many Republicans are looking at this and seeing their chances for re-election dwindling. This scandal enforces the notion that the Republican Party is corrupt and morally bankrupt in the eyes of the electorate. If Gonzales steps down then the investigation goes away…. Issue resolved from the Republican perspective. The problem is Bush has made it clear that Gonzales will stay. So the pundits are trying to rally the troops and use the disinformation machine to bring back some support, and at the same time bring pressure to the Republican Party to stay the course. The Republicans are distancing themselves from the Neo-Conservatives at a record pace. What you are seeing is the Right imploding.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:07 amI actually think if the Vermant campus shooter was a Republican. Rush would be calling to circle the wagons around Cho.
I would like to remind Rush that he stated, : he was not going to carry water for republicans anymore” After the Nov elections. So water boy find some work that really helps the nation instead of dividing it.
Rush is one of those that should join Imus. And let his sponsors understand that Rush is inciting peoples ire.
Why doesn’t Rush help pay for some of those Pat Robertson attny grads to represent Gonzales?
Rush is doing the country a grave injustice with his free speech. Either he doesn’t understand what it is doing to the justice dept and the nation or he doesn’t care as long as his party is seen as winning a game.
The lawlessness it can bring will nullify all that money Rush has made and plans to rule his little kingdom with.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:10 amhe is preaching to the 35 % choir again.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 amPeople like him feel safe because he is a repulsive republican.
When the dems take over, he’ll be jumping up and down for fair decent above average representation.
crush limbaugh
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:38 pmmr. limbaugh often used the expression “…with half my brain tied around my back..” or something to that affect. what he was inferring was that he was so smart he only needed to grapple with “liberals” with half his brain. as it turned out that was true. the guy was high as a kite for a decade or so. a f*cking drug addict. which (drug addicts) he railed against repeatedly.
so he got convicted (rush). i think he’s a felon. maybe i’m wrong. his maid bought him drugs or something. again, florida, has republican “justice” so who knows what was the deal (thankyoumr. bush).
but rush/gonzales, just go away. both of you. you had public stature, then abused that post. you’ve been proven bad people. now, go away.
either heal the world, or hurt the world. there is no middle ground. both of you have been proven the latter.
bye bye now.
sa
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pmFor all of those asking for a “Lir” that gonzo stated in his testimony…
It’s hard to say something is a “lie” when he was confronted with the truth he would only respond — over and over again — “I don not recall,” I am not aware of that,” I don’t know.”
Faking ignorance is what criminals do when they get caught lying. In the one instance where he was caught lying point blank he gave the excuse — “I misspoke.”
Of course “misspoke” is lying to everyone else.
He practiced lying for two weeks — “I am not aware”
If he wasn’t lying, he is the surely the most incompetent and unqualified AG in modern times. If his memory is so poor to not even remember a meeting with the President of the US he is probably an Alzheimer’s victim or just plain stupid.
Either way — he ahs got to go!
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmAt least not any “lie” you can prove, abdiel, right?
Sorry I missed all the other comments above. If anyone is still left on this old thread, let me know.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmSOMEBODY promised him that the world was going to be a WAY different place than it truly, finally, deeply, IS! yeah!
No matter what, be patient, no one is giving up yet. If next week, he is still there and the MSM is still avoiding the story, a website MUST be activated to get people out onto the street.
someone (can’t remember who, ayyy!) wrote: participation IS power
if there is such a website, post it.
i may be just a troglodyte, but our long experience with greedy feds makes us have a certain point of view.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 pmi’ve been on threads all over, looking for something to DO, sick of reading and typing when all hell is breaking loose.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmRush Limpdick is calling for a conservative circle jerk for Gonzo. The only question is who will be the pivot man……Limpdick or Gonzo?
April 22nd, 2007 at 8:05 pmAn idiot calling another person “an idiot.” Something wrong with this picture.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmI think the MORAN has poped to many pills he is brain dead, what little brain he has left.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:22 pmAttention: A Gonzo photo op. See picture above.
Another happy and joyful looking Republic person. Gonzo,