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Climate change disaster strikes Australia.»

“Australia has warned that it will have to switch off the water supply to the continent’s food bowl unless heavy rains break an epic drought - heralding what could be the first climate change-driven disaster to strike a developed nation.”

The Prime Minister, John Howard, a hardened climate-change sceptic, delivered dire tidings to the nation’s farmers yesterday. Unless there is significant rainfall in the next six to eight weeks, irrigation will be banned in the principal agricultural area. Crops such as rice, cotton and wine grapes will fail, citrus, olive and almond trees will die, along with livestock.

A ban on irrigation, which would remain in place until May next year, spells possible ruin for thousands of farmers, already debt-laden and in despair after six straight years of drought.

Australia is the only major industrialized country other than the U.S. to reject the Kyoto Protocol.




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77 Responses to “Climate change disaster strikes Australia.”

  1. Zep Tepi Says:

    It’s Bush’s fault


  2. s Says:

    Given the reality of Global Warming, this could be good news.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/ news/ main.jhtml?xml=/ news/ 2007/ 04/ 22/ wgore22.xml


  3. Barfly Says:

    Perhaps they could utilize the “iceberg bagging” techniques I’ve read about, to snag some detached South Pole bergs and float them home.


  4. Karim Says:

    Neocons of the world unite!


  5. Barfly Says:

    Comment by s

    Gore War II.

    Prepare for more “Earth-Tone Al Invented the Internet”-level media coverage, complete with fawning coverage of his opponents.


  6. DM Says:

    #2 - not good news. Gore is awesome provided he doesn’t actually try to be a candidate - kinda like the magic McCain once had.


  7. Zep Tepi Says:

    Island found in Arctic Circle
    [tangent]A new island has been discovered in the Arctic after rising temperatures melted the giant ice sheet which covered it.
    The rocky mass - dubbed Warming Island - lies 400 miles north of the Arctic Circle in eastern Greenland, reports The Sun.


  8. kiwi visitor Says:

    This is nobodys fault but the people of the world. The thing is, will Howard get his head out of his ass and start to help do something about it. The US president at least recognizes GW and has been doing small things for it. Too bad the Aussie leader is a total idiot.


  9. Barfly Says:

    The rocky mass - dubbed Warming Island - lies 400 miles north of the Arctic Circle in eastern Greenland, reports The Sun.

    And with that announcement, a thousand Hollywood writers leaped into their computer chairs, their fingers a collective blur as new ideas for plots dance within their febrile imaginations. Lord, deliver us from Golan-Globus, and their offspring.


  10. Zep Tepi Says:

    @3 there are a few icebergs afloat, and could perhaps, as you say, be used to irrigate Aussie land.

    It’s not likely of course but would be great if it was


  11. Zep Tepi Says:

    Ah yes, to be a writer, at least what they have to write of is historical, sadly..


  12. Mugsy Says:

    Australia’s President Howard spoke about the issue on the Evening news Saturday. Hopefully, TP will post the video.


  13. Willy Says:

    O’Reilly: “Why does that damn liberal media report only the bad news about global warming?”

    Cheney: “Global warming is in its last throes?”

    Chickenhawks: “Why do liberals hate the farmers?”

    John McCain: “I am now going to prove that Australia’s food bowl is safe to walk across without a canteen (though with 100 support personnel and three helicopters).”

    Bush regarding global warming: “Bring it on”.

    Bush on the failure of preparing for global warming: “Mission accomplished”.

    Laura Bush: “There is only one small global warming disaster each day.”

    Powell: “We have proof that Saddam received stale yellow fruitcake from Aunt Mabel in Niger.”

    Rumsfeld: “The consensus of scientists is that the known unknowns about global warming are still unknown.”

    Gonzales: “I don’t recall if I can remember if global warming exists.”


  14. some random guy Says:

    the only thing that comes to mind is… “You shall reap what you sow”

    Wishing you could sign that Kyoto Protocol NOW, huh mate?


  15. Shirley Ugest Says:

    Gee, wouldn’t it be hysterical if while the world’s super-rich were busy conniving and murdering for diminishing world resources (such as Iraq’s oil) global warming destroyed the human specie’s ability to survive?
    BTW, anybody heard the recent reports that North America’s honey-bee stocks are dying off? They think it is a result of cell phone microwave radiation or some such thing. I believe Albert Einstein once said the human race had about 4 years to live if the bees became extinct.


  16. JPV Says:

    It’s Bush’s fault

    Comment by Zep Tepi

    Well, it’s obviously not Bush’s fault, but his administration is at fault for not at least attempting to do anything to help alleviate the problem.


  17. JPV Says:

    BTW, anybody heard the recent reports that North America’s honey-bee stocks are dying off? They think it is a result of cell phone microwave radiation or some such thing. I believe Albert Einstein once said the human race had about 4 years to live if the bees became extinct.

    Comment by Shirley Ugest

    Yep, pretty alarming news, but I did read that certain species, such as African Bess, where faring pretty well. So maybe all is not quite lost… yet that is.


  18. DownUnder Says:

    Australia (aka John W Howard) is a member state and signatory of the UN Convention on Climate Change. We have known about climate change for over 10 years. OZ & US have not ratified Kyoto.

    There has been a confirmed link between the current drought here and global warming - Howard denies this and is now asking everyone here to pray for rain! Has he lost the plot or what?


  19. old hack Says:

    I spoke to a girl that lives in perth she works at a movie theater and during closing she and her coworkers collect all the unemptied water bottles from that night to take home to feed their plants. their resevoir is about dried up. SUVs and Cell Phones will destrpy us all… not with a band but a whimper.


  20. old hack Says:

    Well, it’s obviously not Bush’s fault, but his administration is at fault for not at least attempting to do anything to help alleviate the problem.

    Comment by JPV

    dude. He put the Oil Corps in charge of regulating emissions. If thats not serious attrition then what is?


  21. DJO Says:

    PM John Howard, a 3rd rate lawyer & 1st rate political schemer, is also a famously “loyal Bushie”. (Kyoto, Iraq, Gitmo etc.)

    Perhaps when he’s defeated at elections later this year Abu Gonzalez can get him a swing state job as a US Attorney? Citizenship won’t be a problem - after all Rupert Murdoch switched nationality from Aussie to American before you could say Fair & Balanced…


  22. jimbo Says:

    it’s absolutely SICKENING these global warming political parasites and leeches will make economic growth much more important than the long term consquences of what is occuring related to global warming…. IF global warming is true.

    POLITICAL CORRUPTION… PARASITES, ROACHES, LEECHES, CRONY’S,
    IN THE CESSPOOL OF ALL THIS POLITICAL CORRUPTION IT’S ENOUGH TO MAKE YOU PUKE… SCANDAL AFTER SCANDAL

    AND YOUR GOING TO TRUST CORRUPT POLITICIANS TO HANDLE GLOBAL WARMING RESPONSIBLY… LIKE A MAD MAN, RIGHT, ONLY WHAT BENEFITS THEM AND THEIR BUDDIES… BOTTOM LINE ULTIMATE POWER, RULING AND LOTS OF MONEY FOR THEM

    ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE PUKE THESE POLITCAL HOODLUMS OUT OF OFFICE FOREVER

    BUT YOU CAN’T DUDE… THE SYSTEM IS RIGGED DUDE RIGGED


  23. koalablue Says:

    The articles fails to mention that the larger cities are on major water restrictions.
    Here in Brisbane the water storage is under 20% and the plan is 140 litres per preson per day, or face major fines(Up to $5,000AUD, approx $4,000USD). Recycled water and De-Salination plants are getting built at present, dams are getting linked together.

    Mr Howard acknowledged that an irrigation ban would have a “potentially devastating” impact. But “this is very much in the lap of the gods”, he said. By quoting the Gods he still denies the affect of GW.
    Howard still strongly supports the massive coal industry in Australia and new mines seem to open daily. He will not at present pass any law to curb coal production or carbon Emissions.


  24. Frank Matthews Says:

    And where’s the proven connection between alleged global warming and this? Surely there have been several droughts like this before. More liberal nonsense.


    matthews.frank@gmail.com


  25. Gillian Says:

    Yeah, here in Brisbane the grass turns to dust under our feet. We save bath water to flush the toilet and use the run off from the washing machine to moisten the foundations of our house to stop them cracking.

    Our corrupt government closed their eyes to the effects of this drought until our dams were at 30% capacity. We had no idea things were so bad until they told us last year.

    Now we’re on Level 5 water restrictions - and it’s only going to get worse. Our world has changed forever.


  26. scott Says:

    Dear O’Reilly - why does liberal media only report the negative effects of climate change? Are there any positive effects???? besides the fact that it was 30 degrees Celcius in Munich last week,,, i


  27. DownUnder Says:

    Frank Mathews said
    “And where’s the proven connection between alleged global warming and this”

    Try the G.R.A.C.E. satellite research data or Australia’s own C.S.I.R.O. muzzled research data - rings a bell with Bush’s censorship on facts.

    Climate change has happened before and will continue in the future. BUT, carbon isotope analysis of C12 : C13 prove that the current global warming is due to human activity. Check out the real science.


  28. Markk Says:

    I know it’s a fad to blame every single climate anomaly on global warming, but Australia has had numerous droughts in the past. This is a pretty bad one though.


  29. AlanDownunder Says:

    “1. It’s Bush’s fault

    Comment by Zep Tepi — April 22, 2007 @ 1:20 am”

    Never was an intendedly facetious more true. If George says “jump”, Johnny says “how high?”. They put their heads together over Kyoto and the hollow noise continues to reverberate.


  30. pro choice lib Says:

    I smell a major land grab. Wonder if any major food conglomerates donate to Howards campaign?


  31. pro choice lib Says:

    I smell a major land grab.


  32. Tom3 Says:

    Howard is Chimpy’s butt boy.


  33. Coffins Draped with Flags Says:

    #2 - the dream team - Gore/Richardson.


  34. Coffins Draped with Flags Says:

    I believe Albert Einstein once said the human race had about 4 years to live if the bees became extinct.

    Comment by Shirley Ugest — April 22, 2007 @ 2:38 am

    Shirley - you are right about the bees and the collapse of our food supply. There is a phenomona called Colony Collapse where the honey bees leave the hive and never return after which the remaining queen and immature workers eventually die. I was looking at my flowering fruit trees yesterday and noticed that there were tiny wasps and big wood bees going from flower to flower. What was missing was lots of yellow pollen hanging from their legs. These other bees just don’t pollinate as well as honey bees.


  35. The Borg Queen Says:

    Frank Matthews, 8 of 10, has now been fully assimilated into the collective republican mind. We have erased his individuality and implanted republican talking points. We are searching the planet for more weak willed, ignorant, cowardly specimens to assimilate. There are not many left, all other humans of the liberal, intelligent species are not fit for assimilation. We are done here for now.


  36. criticalthinker Says:

    When you farm in lands where there environment is not meant for farming this is what happens.

    The native Australians understood that and lived accordingly.

    But the so called “civilized” people who took over, thought they could master the environment instead of living with it.

    The so called “civilized” people could learn a lot from indigenous people, if they would stop the genocide against them and learn from them instead!


  37. ruckrover Says:

    Of the world’s leaders, John Howard is perhaps even more than George Bush the most skeptical about global warming. In a sense this drought is karma for us here in Australia for voting for him 4 times (every election he rolls out the let’s pick on refugees ruse plus promises of money here there and everywhere and gets the 52% through redneck and hip pocket votes.

    The leading meteorologists here say although the drought cannot be definitively nailed to global warming, “the fingerprints of global warming are all over this drought”. The reason is that Australia and the oceans surrounding have warmed faster than much of the rest of the world - partly because the lack of air pollution allows more sunlight in and also because the oceans absorb more heat from global warming.

    The drought is so severe because there has been a 30 year change in the storm fronts from the southern ocean/antarctica that no longer come so far north as they once did. That, say the weathermen is very likely a change due to global warming because it is exactly what the global warming models predicted.


  38. Raven Says:

    #32…
    I could definitley join you on that ticket, CDwF!


  39. Perry Logan Says:

    Clinton’s fault.


  40. david Says:

    Howard reminds me of a guy I knew who never changed the oil in his car –a mechanic’s scam, he said– and never washed his car –he let the rain do all that work. And yet he fussed and fumed when his car fell apart and its Bluebook value was zip.

    Barfly and Frank Matthews have been watching too much Babylon 5. They obviously paid no attention during high school science or they’d know that Earth was a closed system and you can’t just invent more water. No, I suspect they were home schooled and believe in Creationism and that dinosaurs walked with Mankind. Well, the only dinosaurs walking with men are the neo-cons.

    An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure! And there is no respectable scientist taking the contrary viewpoint. In fact, the science community is starting to sound like a Old Testament prophet. They know that any change we make today will only have a demonstrable effect 30 years from now. This planet is TOAST.


  41. New Mexico Says:

    #34….
    Please, please, make sure you don’t forget Pete Domenici before you go!


  42. david Says:

    Howard has ‘reluctantly’ accepted the science of climate change. But he blamed the current drought on “the gods”. How cute! Not God, but “the gods”. Perhaps he imagines he’s in a Wagner opera: Gotterdammerung: Twilight of the Gods.


  43. Dave C Says:

    And where’s the proven connection between alleged global warming and this? Surely there have been several droughts like this before. More liberal nonsense.

    –
    matthews.frank@gmail.com

    Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 5:29 am

    This kind of thinking makes me laugh. Every known scientist that isn’t owned by big oil has agreed with the concept of global warming but Frank wants to see the proven connection. Cheney says that Saddam worked with Al Qaeda and Frank just laps it up ignoring all evidence to the contrary. It seems proof is only required to support concepts that you don’t accept… for the Faux News concepts just the word of a mass murderer is enough to seal the deal.


  44. tbob Says:

    Hey, whatever happened to that Aussie co-do spirit? Time to buckle down, nose to grindstone, pull yourself up by your own bootstraps (boobstraps for the sheilas) and envision the abundance sure to come your way! This is nothing that positive thinking, constructive action and a major pipeline from Canada can’t fix.

    Sorry, don’t know what came over me…it’s the damned heat, I guess. Just curious, are you guys still watering the horse tracks and golf courses?


  45. Knappy Headed Ho Says:

    > Frank Matthews, 8 of 10

    I highly doubt that persons real name is frank. I googled Frank Matthews and the first hit I got was some black talk show host from alabama. Someone posts inane right wing idiocy on a liberal blog and conveniently leaves an email address to respond to? Come one, whats more likely.. that the address is really his, or that some white trash inbred redneck (who thinks incest should be legal but blacks being on the radio shouldn’t) is trolling and trying to get the guy spammed. i suggest someone email that address and tell the guy hes probably being trolled on here so he can do something about it..


  46. Can-O-Whoop-Ass Says:

    Frank, possibly there have been droughts like this, but ya see last time it happened people numbered in the 1000’s. It was much easier to adapt when such a few amount of people needed water.

    Are you really as dumb as you sound? Do you get paid to just be a GOP mouthpiece? Or just anti-human? Or are you one of those wackos that think you’re going to be raptured?

    Tell me Frank, are you looking forward to not only paying $15.00 a gallon for gas, but $8 a gallon for drinkable water?

    Frank for someone like you so worried about terrorism, wouldn’t the smartest thing America could do was end it’s dependence on countries that are the root of most terrorism?

    Wouldn’t a “greener” earth be good, so you know those who don’t smoke don’t die of lung cancer. Or all the chemicals in our foods raising birth defects, ADD, autism, cancers, and so on?

    No matter what you feel about climate change theory, you have to understand the simple common sense of an America not dependent on another nation for energy, as well as less pollution, instead of more as the world continues to have it’s population increase.


  47. Capt. Gonzoid Says:

    I would suggest NOT e-mailing the slimy troll, to avoid having your e-mail address dropped into John Poindexter’s TIA data base….


  48. david Says:

    The real reason Neo-cons deny Global Warming is that –as the more grim scientists report– it will require sustainable retreat. That is, we’ll need to scale back our demands and lower our expectations. It means a planned economy, rationing, and protectionism. It means the end of the Reagan Revolution.

    As Howard is discovering, Disaster –when it strikes– will be swift and unforgiving. Howard refused to sign Kyoto because it would hurt Australia’s economy. Well, now Australia will have no economy. No water, no life, no trade. And it’ll take 30 years to put things right even if we start acting now. So we can start calling our children the Lost Generation.

    Couple this with Bee Colony Collapse Disorder and we can expect the Western World to go thirsty and hungry in the next five years unless the government acts quickly. Thank goodness they did such a great job after Katrina. We can count on FEMA to see us through. NOT.


  49. VerbalKint Says:

    Well, well, well. It seems that “Frank Matthews” isn’t just a big supporter of Gonzales and Wolfowitz, he is also a global warming denier.

    I’m so surprised, Frank! I thought I might see some sign of independent thought from you (/sarcasm off).


  50. VerbalKint Says:

    Certainly a lot of d*mbasses have been suckered by Fox News and Exxon to doubt global warming science. But Frank Matthews probably does accept global warming theory. He says he doesn’t, but he is a liar. He lies because he is an elitist. He “knows” that “free markets” are the best “solution” to the problem. It is just that he doesn’t trust us to know that. So, like all his pals in the administration on the take, Frank is here to sow confusion with the aim of stalling action as long as possible.


  51. Frank Matthews Says:

    Knappy headed ho (44): Yeah, right. You find one Frank Matthews on Google and you instantly assume that I must be trolling him. There’s just no way that there could be another Frank Matthews in America - one that doesn’t show up on Google.


    matthews.frank@gmail.com


  52. VerbalKint Says:

    Frank, you’ve been trolling here under this name for two days now. Catch anything yet?


  53. dog Says:

    “lap, lap, lap.”

    twitch.

    “drip. drip.”

    “roll around in the mud puddle. roll around in the mud puddle.”

    twitch.

    “shake my coat all over the inside of the car. shake my coat all over the inside of my car.”

    twitch. twitch. twitch.


  54. Frank Matthews Says:

    47: “It means a planned economy, rationing, and protectionism. ”

    Is that what you really what? I’d rather die than live under a system that for all intents and purposes is a communist system. No wonder you liberals are so hell-bent on global warming. It gives you a new opportunity to attempt to bring back the totalitarian communist form of government you’ve always loved. The well-deserved fall of the Soviet Union and communism all over the world must seem like a nightmare to you.


    matthews.frank@gmail.com


  55. dog-walker Says:

    my dog is dreaming of wet winters, but here in southern california, we’re experiencing the most severe drought i can remember in my life-time of 43 years, the dryest winter my father of 79 can remember in his.

    if this thing doesn’t resolve — in Australia or here — we will have no basis in history for comparison with the scale of disaster or extremity of human suffering.

    #13: i wish i could teach my dog to read so i could watch him LOL.


  56. dog Says:

    tear, chew, grind, gulp. tear, chew, grind, gulp.

    grrr. grrr. grrr.


  57. katy Says:

    *
    i would be interested to know if there will also be a ban on
    swimming pools, car washes, fountains, etc…

    it seems to me that those things should be turned off
    in order to provide the irrigation to the “food bowl”…


  58. dog Says:

    #53: my dog’s grandfather was a refugee from the former soviet union and he just swallowed whole and tore into tiny pieces that word your type uses as the great bogyeman in the sky, that awe inspiring, terror inducing, mind locking “C” word.

    he asked me to point out that it was never the fundamental ideas of communism but the pre-extant authoritarian reflexes in russian society and the sclerotic lock of impenitrable beaurocracy on every aspect of life that led the project to disaster.

    just think, “I made the decision. I don’t recall when the decision was made.” imagine, “the consensus view of senior management.”

    no reason it can’t take us down just as abruptly one day. no reason at all.


  59. VerbalKint Says:

    It gives you a new opportunity to attempt to bring back the totalitarian communist form of government you’ve always loved.
    Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 11:18 am

    Typical Karl Rove doublespeak.

    Frank, the Bush administration has come far closer to a Soviet-style corrupt bureacracy than any before in history. Central planning is what the Bush administration is all about.


  60. david Says:

    So you would rather die, Frank Matthews, than live. That’s what really scares me about the Rapture Lovers: they’re so sure they’re going to be saved by the deus ex machina that they don’t care if the rest of us fry in the hell of Global Warming.

    Everyone would prefer a world without a planned economy, rationing, and protectionism. But that’s what we need to do to survive this crisis. And it’s what we’ve always done. In both World Wars, we did this. In colonial days, we did this. In Biblical Times, we did this.

    It’s the Republican Right that sells us the idea we can have tax cuts AND fight two wars. It’s the Republican Right that sells us the idea we can break our dependency on oil AND drive SUVs, have airconditioned monster homes, and cheap irrigated food from the 4 corners of the world.

    The Republican Right is the guy in the lifeboat hiding two Hershey bars in his jacket while the rest are sharing what meagre supplies are left. I curse him. And I saw Throw the SOB overboard.


  61. Briseadh na Faire Says:

    Makers of desalinization plants should be sending their best sales people to Australia, there’s a heck of a market.


  62. Peter Says:

    There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that the Australian drought is due to climate change. There have been droughts since the beginning of time, and there will continue to be droughts even if there is no climate change.

    Alarmist, nonscientific claims only serve to hurt the global warming movement.


  63. Barfly Says:

    Comment by Peter

    Sorry Pete, but you’ve already lost the debate on global warming. Case closed. Now, go back to reading the bible . . .


  64. david Says:

    The Death of Australia may be what’s needed to wake up America. Howard has been a Global Warming denier. The end of a continent due to the worst drought in over a 1000 years will let Americans know what’s in store for Texas, Nevada, NM, Arizona and California.

    There is no scientific dispute. Human made climate change is a fact. The only debate is over how fast it’s happening and whether it can be stopped. Australia’s drought shocks because it seems it’s happening a lot faster than we expected and with even nastier results.

    Austraian’s are familiar with biological collapse. Rabbits, a serious pest, have gone through boom/bust cycles. It’ll be horrific when it happens to the humans.


  65. muckdog Says:

    But the Kyoto protocol would have had zero impact.

    There is no scientific dispute.

    Wrong. Scientists who have expressed doubt regarding the current scientific opinion on global warming.

    Human made climate change is a fact.

    Wrong again. Global warming is mostly due to natural processes.


  66. Stay out of the Bushes Says:

    david @ 63,

    I wish you were right about global warming skeptics waking up.

    Even if Australia, and other parts of the world begin to experience
    DRAMATIC and SUSTAINED effects due to global warming, the current crop
    of global warming skeptics (for the most part) will not attribute it
    to global warming. It will be due to God being angry at us/them, a cyclical pattern that will eventually reverse course, or some other reason that DEFIES all reason and logic.

    They can and never are wrong in their own minds. Most of my family are of this ilk. They just can’t ever be wrong (on anything). Despite more and more evidence which cause rational and logical persons to change their mind. You know, the persons they call the “flip-floppers”. I call these people sane.


  67. Stay out of the Bushes Says:

    muckdog,

    The overwhelming majority of scientists are all on the same page on this issue to the extent that a peer-reviewed scientific article has not been published in any scientific journal that gives any legitimacy to the claims of the individuals you cite.

    While the list might appear to be vast on first look, it is indeed EXTREMELY small compared when compared to the total number of scientists in the field. I can imagine who (i.e. which industry) might be behind the posting. I have tied quite a few “scientists” to oil industry, and Exxon has even openly advertised (recently) to pay $10,000 to scientists willing to back them to dispute global warming.

    There will NEVER be 100% consensus on any issue throughout the world. Continue to be in the VAST minority (worldwide) and a minority (in the U.S.) when it comes to this issue. Being in the minority in opinion is quite often a noble endeavour. This is NOT one of those times. The ramifications of continuing to change our lifestyles to an ever-growing global population will bring chaos that is unimaginable to us.


  68. Stay out of the Bushes Says:

    Last sentence should read : “ramifications of continuing to NOT change our lifestyles…”


  69. david Says:

    muckdog, you are a caution. I might open a wikipedia entry saying you’re a Nobel Prize winner and concert pianist.

    Junk science is not science. The tobacco industry produced report after report “proving” tobacco did not cause cancer. The reports were all junk. Fabrications.

    I’m sorry, muckdog, don’t you believe your own senses? Don’t you notice the freak weather? The wild storms, blistering heatwaves, droughts followed by floods.

    This climate change is not natural. Natural would take several centuries to change, this has happend in three decades.

    Most disturbing was the study done on North American weather patterns after 9/11. It proved something as simple as air traffic does change the weather.

    What has to be said is that industry was in denial about CFCs and produced plenty of junk science to back them up. Fortunately, Maggie Thatcher actually had a science degree and saw that the destruction of the ozone was real. Sadly, we have very few politicians with any real understanding of science.

    And by the time we do admit that it’s true, it’ll be too late. There is a point of no return. And we are coming dangerously close to it.


  70. MA Says:

    Global warming/climate change? yep. But what is the cause of changes? Out there on the planets, they are having their problems too, surely the Co2. has not travelled that far.
    Perhaps we should be also thinking outside our ”oval”!


  71. Kilo Says:

    i would be interested to know if there will also be a ban on
    swimming pools, car washes, fountains, etc…
    it seems to me that those things should be turned off
    in order to provide the irrigation to the “food bowl”…
    Comment by katy — April 22, 2007 @ 11:28 am

    If Lake Michigan ran dry cutting water usage in Seattle wouldn’t change that now would it. This is a river supplying farmers in rural Australia. Household usage simply doesn’t rate compared to irrigation.

    FYI all areas effected by drought have been under water restrictions for some years.


  72. Kilo Says:

    the only thing that comes to mind is… “You shall reap what you sow”
    Wishing you could sign that Kyoto Protocol NOW, huh mate?
    Comment by some random guy — April 22, 2007 @ 2:38 am

    WTF is this even supposed to mean ?
    This drought predates the Kyoto protocol, just like the last one did and the one before that.

    Why would anyone have preferred to have signed the Kyoto protocol ? Has anyone even floated a suggestion why ?

    That plan to reduce expected CO2 emissions by 15%. That would have resulted in something different would it ?

    That plan which would have imposed a cap that Australia has only exceeded by 8% without doing anything. That one ?

    Yeah if only Australia had committed to trying to reduce their 2.5% of world CO2 emissions to 2.3% of emissions that would have really changed something in regard to global wind currents and the distribution of rainfall. Sure.

    Clearly there’s no such ’scientific concensus’ on this issue as has been suggested. After all there are zero scientists of any persuasion on this planet who you can find suggesting that long term drought is in any way impacted by short term reductions in CO2.

    Or perhaps the scientific consensus stands and it is just those who choose to misrepresent it for partisan point scoring is what’s split down the middle, right and left.

    ps. Big kudos to the TP reader who suggested mass starvation and the destruction of Australia would serve as a good wake up call for America.
    Best of luck trying to get those Republicans to stop making Americans look like a bunch of self-centred arseholes despised the world over.



  73. steve Says:

    I’m wondering if anyone in Australia is thinking about replacing the flush-toilet systems with in-house humanure collection vessels and municipal-wide composting systems. This would save lots of precious water, and probably money too, and could be run using for example, vacuum tanker trucks.
    This would save gallons and gallons of freshwater per day per person, and would cost less than maintaining underground pipe infrastrucure, according to Joseph Jenkins in The Humanure Handbook. Of course, getting people to even think about this is difficult. But maybe if you don’t have enough water for important things like crops you might start to think about it despite the cultural taboo.


  74. Eric Says:

    Eric

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