Kristol: Reid’s Iraq Remark Is ‘Much More Disgraceful Than Anything Trent Lott Said’
Kristol: Reid’s Iraq Remark Is ‘Much More Disgraceful Than Anything Trent Lott Said’
This morning on Fox News Sunday, Weekly Standard editor William Kristol said that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid’s (D-NV) remark that the Iraq war is lost is “much more disgraceful” than Sen. Trent Lott’s (R-MS) 2002 claim that the country would be much better off if it had maintained racist segregation policies.
“What Harry Reid said is much more disgraceful than anything Trent Lott said, and I do think Democrats should ask Harry Reid to step down,” Kristol said.
NPR’s Juan Williams stared at Kristol with a look of confusion. “Brit [Hume] says it’s ‘laughable,’ you say it’s a ‘disgrace.’ I think what he said is the truth. I mean, it’s unavoidable,” Williams said. “Most Americans think we should have never gone in there, so he’s speaking in a voice that represents the majority of the American people.”
Watch it:
As Juan Williams points out, Reid’s comments are hardly controversial. They are shared by President Bush’s regular military adviser Henry Kissinger and several senior U.S. military officials, as well as a majority of the American people:
Washington Post/ABC News poll, April 16:
Will U.S. win or lose the war?
Lose: 51%
Win: 35%Rasmussen poll, April 16:
Thirty-three percent (33%) of American voters believe that history will ultimately judge the U.S. mission in Iraq a success. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 50% of Likely Voters believe the mission will be deemed a failure.
UPDATE: Atrios notes how CNN also documented how the American people agree with Reid.
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I believe you shoud be stepped ON, Mr. Kristol...
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:33 amOf course, because saying that a war is lost is so much worse than saying that the country is better off segregated.....
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:36 amThe guy is obviously insane...just lock him up in the looney bin. He is likley to go postal...PSYCOTIC!!!
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:38 amI like the way Kristol minimizes the comment on segregation. He actually laughs when explaining it. Note how serious he is though when he wants Reid removed because he dares speak the truth.
Does he think our men and women in battle are so stupid that they are fighting for W's moronic talking points? I assure you, our combat soldiers are not stupid and are more insulted by Mcain saying you can stroll through Bagdad to scoop up bargains on one dollar rugs for your daily constitutional...
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:38 amIf the always wrong Mr. Broken-Kristol-ball is criticizing you, Senator Reid, you surely must be correct.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:42 amRaven, I would see your 'stepped on' and add 'kick in teeth'
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:43 amFascist propaganda enacted, monologued by a proud fascist.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:43 amdono,
This "administration" and their lackeys could give a rats ass about the soldiers on the ground, they are just so many pawns. The Republic666ans are all about the defense contractors. When war is as profitable as these fascists have made it, expect more of it, and to hell with the soldiers.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 amWhy doesn't FOX spend a segment of air time pointing out all the things Kristol and his neocon Iraq fantasy have been correct about. That segment would last three seconds and have crickets chirping in the background. The more time Kristol can spend talking about Reid is less time he has to defend the failed Bush/GOP/neocon policies here and abroad.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:46 amThe best punishment for Kristol would be patrol duty in Sadr City. How I would love to see this utterly loathsome freak sent there.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:47 amtime for CRYSTAL to strap a gun on his back and go to iraq to kick in some doors.... think he/she will....?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:48 amLacking results, the conservatives, led by cheney/rove, must resort to discrediting anyone who points out their failed policies. Americans realize the sky isn't falling but that Americans continue to die in Iraq and $Billions of dollars have been wasted or directed to cheney pals. Conservatives cannot defend their results so attack the criticism. Kristol is simply a cheney/rove puppet, who is neither accountable nor responsible for anything he spews. The conservatives better love him because everyone else in the world sees through his phony act.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:48 amIf the Democrats had an ounce of sense, they would point to Kristol's comment as just another example of how Iraq has become so similar to Vietnam. What Kristol said is the same things that were said, almost verbatim, during the Vietnam War when the hawks claimed back then that any criticism of the war was wrong, disgraceful, ended up giving aid and comfort to the enemy, traitorous, etc. Williams should have demanded that Kristol point to him where in the U.S. Constitution it states that one is not allowed to question and criticize the government during a time of war. I have checked my copy of the Constitution and was unable to find that particular passage where it states that criticism of the government during wartime is expressly forbidden. Geoffrey Stone brilliantly explores this topic in his very relevant book "Perilous Times- Free Speech in Wartime- From the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism".
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:49 amAs one of the primary backers of the Iraq invasion and continuing occupation, this is merely Bill Kristol defending himself. And if I hear one more time that Democrats don't support the troops by insisting on deadlines to be met....someone really should ask these a..holes how keeping troops in a situation where they are like targets in a shooting gallery is "supporting the troops." Does anyone know if either Kristol or Hume have ever BEEN to Iraq since the war started?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:50 amLove me, love my war.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 am-
Yesterday, Rush was quoted as saying, "It seems, every time there’s a public demand for somebody to resign in Washington, it’s always a Republican!"
Today, Bill Kristol calls for Reid's resignation.
Frankly, I'm getting sick of seeing Bill's smarmy face.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 am#10 VerbalKint
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 amAlthough I am sure Broken-Kristol-ball earns much more than I do, I wouldn't mind starting or contributing to a fund to send him (not to mention, Limpballs, O'Lielly, Ann-thrax, etc.) to Iraq. How about you?
I'm reminded of the line in the movie Stripes where he's trying to motivate his group and say "Come on. This is the United States Army. We're 10 and 1.", an obvious reference to Vietnam. (Oddly, this particular line is not seen in the edited versions they show on network TV.)
I think it can now be considered that were 11-2 in wars overall.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:52 amBush, Kristol, and the neocons made a fatal mistake before they invaded Iraq by thinking they could somehow convince Americans to give a shit about Iraq--when they themselves do not care. Ir Bush really cared about what happened to Iraq would he have hired Donald Rumsfeld to lead the charge and would he have taken advice from Richard Perle?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:53 amdoes this thing live outside pox? is it perhaps confined, or quarantined due to the pox? it clearly knows very little about life in general, and seems rather isolated from reality.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:55 amit is a thing to ignore, for emboldening it only makes it say more and more absurd things. couldn't we just stop giving it press? my guess is that it would cause it's head to implode due to neglect
Lora - I would rather send them to Guantanamo, to be interrogated by Republican-approved non-torture.
Add to your list members of the PNAC.
Maybe then we'll find out the truth about 9/11.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:58 amI like how Hume and Kristol both said emphatically that "Al Qaeda is the cause of most the violence there not the sectarian issues" (paraphrasing of course)
Bring back the draft now, it's time for these fuckers to go done.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 amIt is way past time to expose emotionally disturbed people like Kristol for who they truly are. Kristol is a narcissistic childish coward. As John Edwards said last night in Detroit, during a speech I attended, "We're ( the American people) better than this." He was referring to a whole spectrum of things.
I say we are better than those with the whining juvenile world view of Kristol. These spoiled infants continually try to foist this bile on our nation. It is time become a great nation made of of people that are capable of reason, honesty, empathy, and courage.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 amYou could tell almost as soon as Kristol brought up the Trent Lott thing he realized he'd stepped in it big time, but it was too late to stop. It's like he suddenly remembered he was sitting next to a black guy and maybe references to segregation might not be quite appropriate. Heh.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 amand now, for a little levity -- check
out letterman's "top ten" on bush,
used to counteract rich little's coddling
at the white house correspondents'
dinner last night. . . (h/t atrios for the
you tube link!) -- suffer through the
first 30 seconds of tony snow. . .
. . .as letterman is in perfect form!
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 amkristol has been right about iraq so often that i think he should be the "war czar."
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:00 amOh it's just Kristol doing irreversable damage to the Neocon movement. Let him keep talking.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:01 am#21 BnF,
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:02 amI can agree with that idea. It's probably cheaper, too.
Bill Kristol?? Why would anybody pay attention to that idiot. Wasn't he wrong about EVERYTHING?
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:02 amWhy does TP continue to give any credence to anything that comes from the mouth of Crystal? Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that he is nothing but an asskissing front for the latest hype of the Bush Crime Family. If the media would just ignore the silly fool and the idiots who feed at the same slop sink he does, we would all be better off.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:02 amNeocons are going to regret not having a better plan to end terrorism.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:06 amWell, Bill Kristol's sense of outrage and mine (our?) are probably tuned to a different radio stations.
I'm still stuck on John McCain's outright lie, you know, that Baghdad is a perfectly safe place to walk around in--about another thousand deaths ago. Of all the things Bush has destroyed, America's ability to thoughtfully look at the truth and speak it without being accused of "being against the troops" stands with his greatest dubious achievements.
Speaking of McCain, a laugh at his expense?
Operation Karaoke: McCain to Croon More Policy Tunes
McCain will also perform at weddings with sappy love song updates from artists such as Lionel Richie (â€You’re once, twice, three times invaded“) and Paul McCartney (â€Baby you’re ablaze.")
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:08 amCall it what you want, defeat, surrender, cut and run... anything that puts a stop to the insanity that the Bush administration has created is a huge victory for America.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:08 amWhat Bill Kristol has said is worse than Imus, think about this for a second, segregation in America would be better than trying to stop a war George Bush and gang hate black people.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:14 amThe whole "we are/aren't winning" premise is a fallacy. And although I agree that theres really no conceivable definitition of "winning" that we could use to make ourselves feel better about Iraq, I personally think the democrats aren't using the right language.. instead of saying "we arent winning" they should say "there are no good guys here"... "we used to be allies with saddam because the islamic radicals he fought were worse than him".. then they should show a picture of rumsfeld shaking hands with hussien. honestly, come on guys.. deep down.. behind all the "democracy for iraqis...we have to fight them there" crap, deep down, the unspoken undercurrent that they've used to justify this war is that "saddam is a bad man"... well if we start reminding the american people he used to be our ally, that would do alot to turn people againt bush. i am utterly confused as to why the democrats refuse to use this very powerful tactic. anyone have any speculation.... as much as I would love to think that ALL these frikkin politicians aren't tools trying to feed at the same trough, the abject refusal of dems to bring up our dirty past dancing with saddam makes me think its true...
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 amMaybe I’m a little naive, but I thought we “won the war†in Iraq (Bush), and that we are in the “last troughs†of the insurgency (Cheney)…
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 amIt's completely irrelevant what the likely voters think. The fact is that we've got troops in Iraq and it is completely irresponsible and unpatriotic to go out in public and say that the war effort is lost. I mean WTF is wrong with Reid? What happened to supporting your President and being loyal to your State when at war?
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April 22nd, 2007 at 11:26 ammatthews.frank@gmail.com
Frank, can't face reality that the "war" was lost the moment we crossed the border into Iraq? You should open a book and see how well the Korean war, as well as Vietnam went to see how well our democracy building went. And don't bring up Germany and Japan, they surrendered, I never saw Saddam and his generals signing truce papers, like the leadership of Japan and Germany did after WWII.
Frank the only way America could win would be to have complete genocide, these people hate you just as much as you hate them, and know why they'll win? Because their not cowards like you who fight the battle behind your keyboard.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:37 am? What happened to supporting your President and being loyal to your State when at war?
We don't support liars, murderers, and thieves Frank, why do you?
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 amWhat do you expect from a PNAC man.?!!
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:40 amWhen he hears the ' War is Lost....',his mind is lost.
This goes against the 'Plan for New American Century'(PNAC).
Rape-Public-Cans, how painful is your matastesized terminal idealogy? Your writhing and teeth nashing is anticipated as is the denial from your pundits but it seems very painful. Truth be told, it has been excruciating to us.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 am#36..frank
[ It is completely irrelevant what the likely voters think.]
But you seem to forget that Reid is an elected official whose job is to represent the people[electorate],as a Majority Leader.
You also forgot that the money for the war and lives lost also comes from the majority.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:50 amSad truth is these Neocons are not stupid. They know as do the GOP water carriers that this has been lost. However they know something the American people are in denial about. WE ARE NEVER LEAVING IRAQ.......EVER. This is being reiterated by the Dino Hillary.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:53 amIf it's Sunday, it's another stupid comment by Bill - small of mind and large of mouth.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 amguys, call Frank something other than Frank, because I dont think thats his name.. someone suggested he might be jake and I think thats probably on target.. him or one of his inbred relativees.. that certainly isnt his email address
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:55 amFrank seems to forget that the President is an employee.
You know who his employers are?
300 million American people, that's who.
He works for us. We are NOT subservient to him.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:56 amAnd Kristol, being the chickenshit chickenhawk coward who never served in the military, is the biggest disgrace on Sunday Morning talk shows, every week. Who care what this worthless piece of shit says.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:12 pmBill Kristol is extremely confused, he doesn't understand reality, he is just too stupid to understand.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:23 pmBill Kristol is the Sunday morning cartoon act.......thats all folks!
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:33 pmMaybe Harry Reid missed "Mission Accomplished".. we already won, Harry!!
er.. wait..
I'd love to see Kristol in a Marines uniform getting on a plane headed for Iraq.. that would be a great day for America
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:53 pmThat's kind of right up there with the Nazi propaganda machine urging boy-soldiers to victory as the Russians invaded Berlin.
And Baghdad Bob's press statements denying the fact that American troops were in Baghdad, as American tanks rolled in the background.
Once a President commits an international war crime by starting an illegal war of agression, Fascist Frank and his ilk insist we all follow in goose-step behind der furheur.
During the Revolutionary War, people like Frank were called Tories. After all, the Founding Fathers committed treason against King George.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmY'all seem to be missing what segregation meant to millions, and the pain it brought to America. This is not acceptable for a person who is on TV all the time to go off and say that to hinder people by race is alright, to continue segregation in this country would have bin on par with invading a country for no reason.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:16 pmIt's not Sunday on TP unless there's a thread with this blathering Death Head.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmAt this point you have to wonder if Bill Kristol's own mother takes him seriously any more.
BTW, I notice "Li'l Billy" still hasn't voluntarily enlisted to go fight in the war he loves so much. Go cluck yourself, Bill.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmBill Kristol: Worst Person in the World....
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmKristol is much more disgusting. He was/is a cheerleader for this debacle. Yet, he is unwilling to put his ass on the line by enlisting. Kristol is another cowardly, draft-dodging chickenhawk who doesn't have the balls to put his body where his mouth is. Gung-ho for war......as long as someone else does the fighting.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmAmerica would be better off if shitbirds like Kristol, Limpdick, Hannity, Savage, Bush, Cheney, Ashcroft, Abrams, Hastert, had been fragged in Vietnam.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmWhy do most Americans hate America?
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:28 pmI listen to Kritol, who has not one iota of an idea what being in battle is like, and wonder how can people even agree with such a warmongering chickenhawk. The man is evil. Thank God, Juan Wiliams is around to be the voice of reason. I say let Billy Boy go over and tour Bagdad on his own and report what is really happening. How can these people keep on saying that the outlook in Bagdad is good when so many are being killed daily. Bombing are still going on, troups are being killed, citizens of Bagdad take their lives into their hands daily by going out into the open.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:38 pmThe public needs to wake up to the fact that Kristol and his kind will be pushing this war for a decade if they get the chance and in the end it will all turn out the same.
frak; why do you love/support war criminals(Bush/Cheney)? Why do you hate our troops. I assume you are not(like me) a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:53 pmKristol, you sack of shit, you've been lying since Day 1. Why would ansyone still be listening to your lies?
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:58 pmfrak; why do you love/support war criminals(Bush/Cheney)? Why do you hate our troops. I assume you are not(like me) a member of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Hi Uncle Ho!
Frank finds it difficult to think for himself, and he has no end of employee trouble. Poor thing....
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmHiya Zooey! I just commented on your post on the thread about Newt. With a mindset(or is it mindless- set?) like his, no wonder he has employee trouble.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmBush created this Civil War with his failed policy=Lost
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:11 pmGonna split for a while. Installing a new shelf stereo system. Later.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmI agree with Kristol. I don't think most Americans think we've lost in Iraq either.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:34 pmGonna split for a while. Installing a new shelf stereo system. Later.
Comment by Uncle Ho
I hope you're doing that for yourself! Later, Uncle Ho.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmNico - When all the public hears is BAAAAAD news about Iraq, don't act so surprised whe a majority believe we might lose this war. (Rather, pat yourselves on the back - you've done a great job according to the folks who hate America and/or hate GWB!!)
"Old Surrender" Harry Reid should be ASHAMED of himself for giving aid and comfort to the enemy!!
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:00 pmAgreed, valiant venus.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:27 pm#
It’s completely irrelevant what the likely voters think. The fact is that we’ve got troops in Iraq and it is completely irresponsible and unpatriotic to go out in public and say that the war effort is lost. I mean WTF is wrong with Reid? What happened to supporting your President and being loyal to your State when at war?
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matthews.frank@gmail.com
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 11:26 am
You clearly don't support the U.S. Constitution. According to you, voters don't "count," free speech is unpatriotic, and supporting the President (policy) is more important than supporting the concept of a free and democratic country. During Vietnam, one of the bumper stickers and mottos so popular among the supporters of that war was "America...love it or leave it." Frank...time for you to leave now. Your rhetoric clearly demonstrates that you do not love your country.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:41 pm#36 Frank
Bush works for the American people. We are the decider not Bush. We need to bring our Troops home NOW. The War is LOST as Reid said. I see Malki is putting a stop to the wall. It is about time he stepped up to the plate and was Iraqis leader. This is not Bushes country. We went into a ILLEGAL UNJUST WAR for OIL and to make Bushies CRONIES RICHER.
Why does anyone believe anything OLD BILLIE KRISTOL the neocon nut says.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:47 pmThis just goes to show you how frightened the neocons and their wingnut accomplices are by somebody who tells the truth.
We were told that we would stand down when the Iraqis stood up. Now we come to find out that the Iraqis are not capable of standing up, now or later.
Hence it follows as the night the day, we will not stand down as long as the neocons and their wingnut accomplices stay in control.
Throw the bums out!
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:55 pmKristol's still taking up space and breathing our air...
...is much more disgraceful than...
...anything Reid has said...
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 pmCalling for Reid to step down solidified the evolving role of Kristol's voice about this war: Irrelevant.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:17 pmKristol is a leader among blood thirsty PNAC vampires. The PNAC dream of world domination and america as an empire will not go away. These vampires will lurk for a while untill they can regroup. But they will keep coming back. Exposure might be the best defense against these awful creepy crawlies.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:31 pmWhat' the matter Frank? Cranky because the RNC makes you work on Sunday?
As for Smiley Kristol - I'm sure he and the rest of the neo-con killers would love for Harry to leave. Ever since Harry took over, things haven't been going well for the Straussian elite. I disagree with Harry on a lot of things, but I love that he stands up to BushCo.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:36 pmHiya Zooey! The new stereo is for myself, but the sucker is defective- the CD tray will not open when you push the button. Have to return it.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:14 pmTranslation of Kristol's comment (with which I personally adamantly disagree):
Making racist comments is no big deal. The world would be much better if the ______ knew their place.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:19 pmHiya Zooey! The new stereo is for myself, but the sucker is defective- the CD tray will not open when you push the button. Have to return it.
Comment by Uncle Ho
Damn, sorry about that.
It's always something....
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:29 pm(channeling Emily Litella)
Zooey: dare I ask? Who is Emily Litella?
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:42 pmZooey: dare I ask? Who is Emily Litella?
Comment by Uncle Ho
Apparently you do dare, Uncle Ho. :D
Emily Litella was a Saturday Night Live character by the great Gilda Radner.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilda_Radner
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:59 pmI used to watch SNL- must have missed that one. Did like Babwa Wawa & Roseanne Rosanna Danna. And those wild & crazy guys, the Samurai, & King Tut, and don't forget the Blues Brothers.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:15 pmUncle Ho,
Those were the good old days on SNL. Nothing compares, IMHO. :)
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:26 pmMapleStreet:
I don't think that Kristol was saying: "Making racist comments is no big deal." He was saying that the Senate majority leader claiming "We have lost in Iraq" is worse.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:26 pmRepublicans are always testing our reactions. Too bad the media loves his point of view. Lott's a bigot and so is Billy. Too bad he can't count us all in his court.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:55 pmJust watch them make themselves fools, once again, and certainly not for the last time.
IMPEACH, to rid US of this scurge.
Mr. Kristol is once again out of step with American opinion. What else is new?
April 22nd, 2007 at 9:01 pmKarim:
What else is new? How many Americans think we've lost in America vs. Americans who think we wouldn't have all these problems if Strom Thurmond had been elected?
April 22nd, 2007 at 9:11 pmIs there any appreciable difference between what Senator Reid stated Thursday (04/19/2007) and again Friday (04/20/2007) and what Tokyo Rose said during WWII? Hasn't Nancy Pelosi, in essence, engaged in the same rhetoric? I realized they were both elected by their constituents and Tokyo Rose was not, but does being elected really excuse treasonous acts and statements? The actions by Reid and Pelosi seem flagrant enough to negate their immunity from prosecution while performing the duties of their office.
April 22nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmIs it my imagination, that these neocons hate happiness, hate life, hate themselves? So many of them seem to be in the closet, self loathing Roy Cohns of the present day. Did their parents keep them closeted and repressed, and this is the result? Or were they all beaten by stern fathers, while their mothers cowared in the shadows. The sins of the father are destroying our world. Wake up!
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:02 pmWhat I'd like to see is someone pointing out to Kristol or other supporter that the US is not fighting a war, it's occupying a country against the will of a majority of the population.
If Juan Williams framed it by asking Kristol how the US can do anything but LOSE an occupation (by eventually giving it up), it could be a great interview.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:29 pmComment by John Lobenstein — April 22, 2007 @ 9:35 pm
What Harry Reid said is pretty much what William F. Buckley and other intelligent people are saying. Idiots like you, in the 28%tile, which is a minority, need to wake the fuck up. This war is over and Dubya lost it. Get a grip, moron.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:33 pmOf course there is a difference. In WWII, the US was fighting sovereign countries that sought to capture other lands. When they surrendered, the war was over.
In Iraq, the US is occupying a country. The rulers are captured or dead. The population increasingly resents the US, and the situation worsens by the month, with 50,000 leaving each month.
See the difference?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmWilliam F. Buckley, a famous conservative, said the war was lost a year ago. Is there a difference in what he said than Tokyo Rose?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmYes, and Reid's statement is more accurate than anything Trent Lott ever said also.
Kristol is a war monger, as is plain for all to see. Anyone who is against war is the enemy to him.
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:56 pmLot of good comments here.
Yes, the war was over and the Ba'athist govenrment defeated long ago.
Leaving Iraq to the Iraqis is anc can be the only true eventual goal!
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:59 pmEargy Earp:
How can anyone doubt the following statement is, at the very least, "accurate" (regardless of its claimed racist sentiment): "If America had elected Strom Thurmond as President, we wouldn't have all these problems."
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:33 amThat's like denying there were lynchings in the South. I mean, I thought you guys were the "reality-based" crowd?
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 amHey Nico, why didn't you lead with this headline?
Bill Kristol Suggests Harry Reid Was Behind 9/11.
Sure, yet another transcript where no such suggestion occurs, but considering there's no correction to where you've done this before that's no problem, right ?
April 23rd, 2007 at 7:18 amThe handbills of the Segregationist party in 1948 were specifically "pro-lynching". If douchewads like Kristol are going to trot out Trent everytime they point to a media storm (poor Lott lost the leadership of the GOP because he advocated Lynching in 2001, but he was allowed to keep his Senate seat, boo hoo)
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:54 pmWhich of the following should not be ignored or fired: Kristol, Cheney.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmBush, Pearle. Wolfowitz, Rove, Rush, Hannity, Lott, O'Riley, Gonzales,
Coulter, Hatch, Blair, or McCain.
No. 12 Comment by SouthWest Bob — April 22, 2007 @ 10:48 am
You believe that
"Kristol is simply a cheney/rove puppet..."
No. 30 Comment by John the Elder — April 22, 2007 @ 11:02 am
You said:
"Anyone with an ounce of sense knows that he (Kristol) is nothing but an asskissing front for the latest hype of the Bush Crime Family."
I disagree with both of your comments which relegate Kristal to a shill for this Administration.
He is a lot more important than that! In fact it might be turned around to say that he is one of the driving forces behind BushCo. A puppet he is not. In these interviews he is defending his own views and ideology not BushCos.
And of course Irving Kristol, his father, is one of the founders of the neo-con movement originating with Leo Strauss and using Machiavellian ideology.
Here is part of his bio from Wikipedia
Weekly Standard
After the Republican sweep of both houses of Congress in 1994, arguably a result of the debacle over health care reform, Kristol established, along with neoconservative John Podhoretz and with financing from Rupert Murdoch, the conservative periodical The Weekly Standard. In 1997, he founded, with Robert Kagan, the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a movement credited in part for some of the foreign policy decisions of the Bush administration as evidenced by their 1998 letter to US President Bill Clinton advocating military action in Iraq, to "protect our vital interests in the Gulf". He is also a member of the conservative think tank the American Enterprise Institute from which the Bush administration has borrowed over two dozen members to fill various government offices and panels. Kristol is currently chairman of PNAC and editor of The Weekly Standard.
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:00 pmThe war was lost a long time ago. Some are finally figuring that out.
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:33 pmBill Kristol simply speaks the truth: What is good for Israel is Good! Period...
April 24th, 2007 at 7:09 amThe Bushies will leave Iraq as soon as they figure out a way to take the oil with them.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:40 amRug Lover
I wonder how many of these facts you have really checked your self.
March 15th, 2008 at 11:42 pmVenus Williams Gallery
I Googled for something completely different, but found your page?and have to say thanks. nice read?
April 1st, 2008 at 9:41 amfamous rebate
April 10th, 2008 at 9:00 pm