Singer Sheryl Crow, “on a cross-country global warming awareness trip, got into it with Karl Rove” last night at the White House Correspondents Dinner. “Jawing like a baseball manager and an umpire arguing a call, Crow and Rove were disagreeing over global warming, with Crow’s pal, Laurie David, offering support.” David describes the scene:
We asked Mr. Rove if he would consider taking a fresh look at the science of global warming. Much to our dismay, he immediately got combative. And it went downhill from there.
We reminded the senior White House advisor that the US leads the world in global warming pollution and we are doing the least about it. Anger flaring, Mr. Rove immediately regurgitated the official Administration position on global warming which is that the US spends more on researching the causes than any other country. […]
In his attempt to dismiss us, Mr. Rove turned to head toward his table, but as soon as he did so, Sheryl reached out to touch his arm. Karl swung around and spat, “Don’t touch me.” How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow? Unphased, Sheryl abruptly responded, “You can’t speak to us like that, you work for us.” Karl then quipped, “I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.” To which Sheryl promptly reminded him, “We are the American people.”
In a real USA that would have gotten Rove FIRED by the President Since we live in another USA I guess they will hang Crow for assulting Rove
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:18 amAnd this is news? If the roles had been reversed, I bet Ms. Crow would be screaming about sexual harassment. “Rove touched me! I’m gonna sue him!”
It is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 ammatthews.frank@gmail.com
I found a very recent group photo of Cheney, Bush, Frank, Roger/2, Rove, Rice, Valiunt Venile, Patrick1, Jason M Hitler, and many others.. They must be stopped.
http://www.gamespot.com/ pages/ image_viewer/ frame_lead.php?pid=935325&img=22
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:22 amAny chance that the whole exchange was recorded?
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:24 amThe Bush Administration works for Exxon/Mobil, not the American people. Just ask Philip Cooney.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:27 amGO SHERYL! You are a true patriot.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:28 amFrank the only anti-troops Americans I know are you, patrick1, and the rest of the idiotic trolls who fight terrorism with your keyboard hiding in your moms basement. If you believe so much in it, why aren’t you there?
Mostly ‘cuz you’re a bed wetting pansy.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:28 amFrank Matthews is a Homo Ignoramus.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:28 amI guess Mr. Rove is a bit on edge these days. Keeping all these scandals under control can be very stressful, let alone really HARD WORK.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:29 amOh and another thing Frank, Tell me been divorced 4 times because you hate women?
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:29 amShe would have kicked him in the groin, but was afraid her foot would stick in his gaping vagina.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:30 amOff topic,sorry,but:
Tom Friedman speaks to Wolf B.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:32 amI didn’t see the whole interview;did he mention any “Friedman Unit” metrics?
A Tom Friedman thread in 3…2…1….
Rove considers George W. Bush “the American people”.
-GSD
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:32 amFrank Matthews at 11:22 am
Have you received your talking points from Karl Rove or Joseph McCarthy? Like them, you apparently believe that no criticism of the U.S. government is allowed, either during a time of a Hot or a Cold War. That may be true in a dictatorial or authoritaran type of government but it certainly should not be true in a democracy, even one ruled by Bush and Cheney.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 amSuicide Bombers are here!
Reagan-Era Colbert Replacement Bombs At White House Correspondents Dinner
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ 2007/ 04/ 21/ reaganera-colbert-replac_n_46489.html
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 amrove is gay. thats how he hates being grabbed by the lovely miss crow
Man.. Her and I would be naked with a cheese sandwich, we’d make our own mayonnaise.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 amThis administration is in it’s “last throes”.
And I’m loving every minute of it.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:33 amWhenever I’m looking for answers to the difficult questions surrounding global warming there’s only one person to turn to. Laurie David. We know that she had extensive debates about greenhouse gas emissions with Kramer on the set of Seinfeld. Sheryl Crow is not to be scoffed at either. Some may think this statement is over the top, but I think she is the smartest human being to ever walk the planet.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:34 amQuick, keyboard commandos from wingnuttistan..to arms…Karl Rove has been attacked viciously by a songstress.
-GSD
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:36 am‘Dont touch me…’ - what a FAG. Is he such a Federalist he is not even to be touched? I don’t know any man who would whine such a girlie shreak upon Sheryl Crow touching their arm.
I bet if she had kissed him he would have curled up under the table in the fetal position and whimpered.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:38 amHonestly if it came to the President’s attention that one of his advisors had done anything other than patronize one of the members of the other side he would be gone. Surely in public like that all there is is arm grabbing. Any salesman would grab you by the elbow and attempt to get you to buy what he is pitching.
This shows that Rove lacks the necessary decorum to be able to converse let alone be present in public. No, Rove does not have to agree with Crow but in public he must at least appear interested in what Crow says.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:39 amErroll (14): We’ve got elections every four years. That’s your chance to effect a change. Criticizing the policies of an elected President when we’re at war only emboldens the enemy.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 11:41 ammatthews.frank@gmail.com
Rove’s final response says it all.
“The American People”….no, “AMERICA” is so narrowly defined in the administration’s mind, that I doubt a majority of this country is even considered ‘The American People” by them anymore.
And the trolls seem to go along with this just fine. News flash: your base is barely a third of The American People.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:43 amThank you, Ms. Crow, for your courage.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:44 amYou may have just united a vast movement of women, and men, who will bring a summer of joyous outpouring for the sake of evolving planetary awareness and the sanctity of spaceship Earth.
Let’s declare a WAR on Polluters. With Australia facing the devastation of crops due to drought and pacific islands sinking, there is now strong visual evidence of the effects of global warming.
Now say we’re all wrong about global warming and we change to clean power for no reason… hell it will save a ton of children from athsma and clean up our water. This is a no brainer and a win win situation. Green innovation will spur the US economy and put us at #1 in the world again.
What really are Rove and company afraid of? What is their endgame? Short term profits are ridiculous if there is no world in 20 years in which to spend them? Do these ass-mallets really want to be the last generation left on earth?
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:46 amFrankie-poo,
Your shallow rhetoric belies your inability to think for yourself.
Unfortunately for you, we live in a Democracy where free speech is allowed.
Allow me to demonstrate:
“You’re a f*cking idiot and so is Shrub.”
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:47 amThis administration needs to isolate itself as much as possible. It simply can’t take REAL questions from REAL Americans about WTF this government is doing to our country and our planet. It’s not surprising that Rove would freak out when actually confronted with such questions.
Do you think GWB could survive in a Q&A format where average Amercians, like maybe some parents of Iraqi troops, were allowed to ask unfiltered questions about the way in which he is running this country? If he really is working for the American people, then this kind of a format should be standard operating procedure for our elected officials.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:48 amFrank Matthews,
Please enlighten me on your descripition of exactly what is a “Anti-Troop Celebrity”, is! Am I a Anti-troop American for protesting the War in Vietnam,( I served and was wounded 3 different times,on 3 different days),I protested when I got out of the hospital and am protesting today! I protest everyday against Bushs’ Swimmingly Good Crusade in Iraq! Am I Anti-Troop cause I want them home?
Answer me if you any balls at all! I also believe your a 60 year,overweight,white male nobody,never married,still a virgin,and still living at home in your mothers basement ,that hasn’t worked since the Stock Market Crash of ‘87!
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 amErroll (14): We’ve got elections every four years. That’s your chance to effect a change. Criticizing the policies of an elected President when we’re at war only emboldens the enemy.
Really? Where was this spirit back in Clinton’s administration. Hell…where was it in Bush I’s? Reagan’s? Carter’s?
It’s our duty as PATRIOTS to be skeptics, especially on serious considerations such as military action and war. To claim that our duty is to shut up and listen to dear leader goes against the very fabric this country was built upon. The only way we embolden the enemy is by betraying ourselves, by willfully giving up who we are and the ideals we were brought up with. We are not mindless drones. Dissent, no matter how uncomfortable some may find it, is a CORNERSTONE of healthy society, not a detriment.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:49 amFrank,
Let’s ask you point blank - Do you think our government should do more to combat global warming or simply ignore it?
Note to trolls-Your answers may not reference Clinton. Let’s focus on the present.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:51 amIt is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Frank, I’m so disappointed with you. Up until now you have behaved like a perfect RNC representative. But this comment ventures into Firehead territory, and marks you as just another dumb a*shole troll.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:53 amKarl, Dick and George work for American “interests.”
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:54 amI hear this term over and over, especially from G.Dubious.
“American interests” seems to translate to corporate profits, resource control, exploitation of developing counties, and economic slavery.
There are a lot of Americans who are interested in peace, harmony, security, and freedom. Not to mention simple survival of the human race on this planet.
None of which can be attained at the end of a gun barrel.
A somber WHD due to the VT carnage might seem appropriate at first glance but joking about missing WMD and atrocities of iraq is hyterical.
The color of the sky is blue, I wonder what the color of the sky is in the world of Neocons.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:57 am29: I thank you for your service and I certainly believe that having served you have also earned the right to protest. That cannot be said of most professional hand-wringers who seem to wish for defeat in Iraq.
31: That’s a loaded question, because it assumes that global warming is a proven fact. Assuming that global warming was real, which it most likely isn’t, I’m sure combating it would be profitable and hence the markets would take care of it.
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April 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 ammatthews.frank@gmail.com
“……we are the american people” cut to roves face. cue curb your enthusiasm theme song hahahaha
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:59 amI’m looking forward to the next Democratic President fighting the war on terror and not being criticized by Republicans, because that would only embolden our enemy.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:02 pmWe know that the American people Rove and Bush work for are the oil barons and crony capitalists looting our treasury. Rove has been a pig, is a pig now, and will go to his grave a pig. But it’s still interesting to hear how big a stinking pig he truly is with such an intimate anecdote.
I imagine Rove ran over to bask in the fame of Sanjaya, shunning the conscientious artist for the faux bullshit artist (as if I know the first thing about that miserable mass-mind-numbing program.)
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmBravo for Sheryl Crow! That takes a lot of guts and she has started something positively positive. We need more people like her, who use their position and rights to call the nuts out. We all have work to do to bring this country back from a horrid place which has been spiraling downward.
Billy
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:03 pmLike them, you apparently believe that no criticism of the U.S. government is allowed, either during a time of a Hot or a Cold War. Comment by Erroll — April 22, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Yesterday “Frank Matthews” said that since there is no proof of crimes committed by either Gonzales or Wolfowitz, everybody should shut up and leave them alone. You see, in this democracy Frank sets the ground rules: all Republican public servants are above criticism and oversight until it is proven that they have committed a crime or they have failed their loyalty test (of course without criticism and oversight it is much less likely that criminal activity would be discovered, but Frank eschews the rule of law anyway). Frank is the one who gets to determine what constitutes proof of crimes committed by Republicans (nothing, apparently), and also gets to determine what constitutes crimes committed by Democrats (let’s start with jaywalking). Frank is also a climate science expert, too.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:04 pmSo unless you served, you don’t have a right to protest? Even if the reasons a person protests are the same as those who have served? Even if the reasons a person protests are BECAUSE of those who’ve served and now protest? Even if the reasons a person protests are because of the lessons we’ve learned from those who served?
There are damn good reasons common people should be protesting. And it has nothing with ‘wishing for defeat’. It’s about recognizing the defeat this administration’s incompetence has already wrought.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:05 pm…and hence the markets would take care of it.
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matthews.frank@gmail.com
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 11:59 am
I’m so tired of this right-wing lie. More likely, pollution (or rather the failure to not pollute) will probably be profitable until its too late. At which point, the market will have killed us all.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmFrand, USMC Retired,
Don’t bother with that retard. Defending a non-elected scheming blowhard that can’t rise above partisanship for the sake of civility to a woman in public is unconscionable.
Both KKKarl and this idiot are beyond the pale, corrupt and arrogant.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pmlet’s play 6 degrees! i’ll start:
i once dated a man from kennett,mo, sheryl’s hometown, and her father was my bf’s father’s lawyer… and now that bf is married to a kennett girl whose sister is sheryl’s close friend…
there’s more, but, yea yea yea… close, but no cigar…
having spent a lot of time in kennett missouri, it must surely be an enormous source of pride for those citizens to claim sheryl crow as one of their own… well, it should be, but given it’s very southern redneck, i’m not really sure…
i’m proud of her, and laurie, for doing this! you go girls!
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:06 pm“Frank” just wrote this:
Assuming that global warming was real, which it most likely isn’t, I’m sure combating it would be profitable and hence the markets would take care of it. (emphasis added)
Now contrast that with this comment I posted an hour ago on another thread:
Certainly a lot of d*mbasses have been suckered by Fox News and Exxon to doubt global warming science. But Frank Matthews probably does accept global warming theory. He says he doesn’t, but he is a liar. He lies because he is an elitist. He “knows†that “free markets†are the best “solution†to the problem. It is just that he doesn’t trust us to know that. So, like all his pals in the administration on the take, Frank is here to sow confusion with the aim of stalling action as long as possible.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:09 pmWow, Frank you are a total a$$hat, what a Repuke Talkiing Point Fool, you are the shinning example of what the repukes are all about. This is the type of person that needs to be maginalized in the public discourse. They need to be shoved back in their neanderthal caves, give them some rocks to bang together to keep them busy.
You suck a$$
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:11 pmHe is the prime minister to the boy-king - no one dare touch his anointed raiment.
Indignation over having been approached by one of the “rabble,” the golden one expresses his outrage at the impertinence.
I am so f***ing fed up with Bush&Co, their ego and their arrogance, their selfishness and their recklessness, their crimes and corruption. As big papa sez:
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmLet us
Investigate
Impeach
Imprison
Impoverish
“I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.”
Has there ever been a statement that more accurately summarized this Administration’s dismissive attitude toward the fundamental tenets of our democracy?
Here’s what I simply don’t understand about the lockstep Republican opposition to addressing global warming. For years, this same Party has told us that if there is even a remote chance of combating terrorism, we must sacrifice our rights to privacy, dissent, and our adherence to time-honored codes of human conduct. If there was a chance that Sadaam might have WMD, we must start a war with Iraq. If there is a chance that a first-trimester fetus constitutes human life, we must outlaw abortion. If there is a chance that someone will prevent a crime by being armed, we must provide unfettered access to all manner of guns.
Yet, this same “erring on the side of life” attitude is chucked out the window when it comes to the possible destruction of our entire planet. If there is even a chance that every competent scientist on the globe is right - and not simply a “librul anti-troop Bush-hater” - then how can these same individuals resist doing anything about it with knee-jerk reliability? This glaring inconsistency alone should discredit naysayers like Rove, and expose them for the self-serving hypocritical imbeciles they most certainly are.
BobP
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:14 pmhttp://www.thehueandcry.com
Crow was talking to Rove about global warming but she could just as easily been talking about abortion rights. Rove seems to have told her that he is not into her or what she has to say. In that as related to the thread Rove appears to have gone a little over the top.
On global warming: There is another possibility regarding global warming that I don’t hear about on this site. According to NASA the average and mean temperature of all the “bodies” in our solar system are on the rise. This is to say that just like our planet all of the others are also warming.
http://www.washtimes.com/ world/ 20040718-115714-6334r.htm
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/global-warming031307.htm
http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=17977
In a corrupt world as this one is we folks are considered as “the sheep” and they can sell us on anything like fixing global warming by charging a carbon tax… LOL
These things are true:
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:17 pm1) We will stop driving since we are out of energy.
2) The world will heat up regardless of what we do at this point
3) The warming will continue if…
a) Humans caused it or
b) If the solar system causes it.
4) Starvation, Energy Depletion, Drought, etc show that we (humans) are now in a “Population Die-Off” that will cull us by 50% or more.
5) There simply is not enough food or water for the total global population that has crossed the Rubicon (the point of no return).
6) If we were going to attempt to drop the temperature then killing 80 to 90% of the world human population and composting their bodies at this point would add more greenhouse gasses.
7) 1/4 of all of the bees on this planet are GONE, VANISHED… what will we eat? Cannibalism yummy, yummy in my tummy or in yours?
8) We are screwed so PARTY LIKE ITS 1999 PEOPLE!
Rove is discusting.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:20 pm#49 Please try to organize your thoughts next time.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:22 pmIt is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.
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Comment by Frank Matthew
I agree anyone like Rove who took some 5-6 deferments to keep from becoming a trooper shouldn’t possibly be considered and American
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:25 pmBreaking News… Sheryl Crow beats down Karl Rove in front of everyone… after Rove stoped crying offered him a tissue.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:33 pmKKKarl Rove, the Goebbels of the Chimperor’s Palace, afraid of Sheryl Crow?
That’s like Condi Rice being afraid of going to Harlem.
That’s like Rascal Flatts being afraid of Johnny Cash.
That’s like Rich Little being afraid of being funny.
That’s like Nicholas Cage being afraid of making great movies
That’s like Gonzo Gonzales being afraid of actually recalling things.
If I was touched by Sheryl Crow, hell, I’d be aroused. If I was kissed by her….WEDDING BELLS.
KKKarl, in the words of William Shatner from SNL, “Have you ever kissed a girl?” Oh, don’t bother, with a face like that, who’d want to kiss you.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:34 pmYuck, cannot imagine touching Karl Rove.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:39 pmLooks like The Porcine One is a bit touchy these days…
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:42 pmTime for the Al Gore campaign to enter the race…
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 pmGo Sheryl!!!
Keep fighting the good fight against f*ckers like Rove and his ilk!
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmComment by Cpl Frand, USMC Retired — April 22, 2007 @ 11:49 am
Frank is a self-avowed Fascist. Enough said?
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pm35. “That cannot be said of most professional hand-wringers who seem to wish for defeat in Iraq.”
Nobody wants defeat in Iraq, you stupid fool.
35. “That’s a loaded question, because it assumes that global warming is a proven fact. Assuming that global warming was real, which it most likely isn’t, I’m sure combating it would be profitable and hence the markets would take care of it.”
“which it most likely isn’t”…what are you basing this off of? A wild guess I suspect. Combating global warming WOULD NOT be profitable, because the oil companies are making HUGE profits from the sale of gas. You sound a tad confused, sir.
April 22nd, 2007 at 12:56 pmrove’s head belongs on a stick on the beach. just like “piggy” in lord of the flies. that’s who he’s been since he was a kid. that’s who is now. fuck him. what a piece of trash. mother fucking faggot. i’m queer. i know a cock sucker when i see one. this guy sucks cock. always has. always will. jesus christ, i’m so sick of this guy. please, someone. let’s get rid of him. off with his fat fucking head. put the fucking head on a stick and send it to the beach for the flies to lick.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmWE, the PEOPLE, will criticize the “president” ANY TIME that we feel that he is NOT representing WE, the PEOPLE.
WARTIME? Something that Rove uses to cower people into silence about how these WAR CRIMINALS have taken over the USA.
Rove is a TRAITOR, Bush is a TRAITOR, Cheney is a TRAITOR.
I can say it over and over, especially since it is TRUE…
EMBOLDEN the TERRORISTS???
Such as LEAVING BIN LADEN ALONE and attacking Iraq, which had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11?
Thus, as the 2002 CIA report TOLD Bush, THOUSANDS more “Al Queda”-type cells would result by his attacking IRAQ.
THAT is “EMBOLDENING THE TERRORISTS”.
See you in hell “frank” and “mandarin” (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA
Hey there Frank, saw your post over at Think Progress,
‘And this is news? If the roles had been reversed, I bet Ms. Crow would be screaming about sexual harassment. “Rove touched me! I’m gonna sue him!”‘
That’s just silly. No judge would agree with that assessment because everyone knows that Cheryl Crow is hot, and Karl Rove is an anally retentive fat ass. So you’re assertion just has no bearing in reality. On your second point,
“It is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.”
Watch some of these personal testimonials of Iraq veterans, VideoVets, they laugh at your notion that being against this war is being against the troops. These are t-h-e t-r-o-o-p-s laughing at what you are saying. Just embrace that fact for a while here and let it sink in. Now tell me how does that make you feel? They are scoffing at your assertion as not only absurd, but treasonous to your duties as an American citizen. They are saying it is evident on it’s face that this war, which at the same time is both for and against the people of Iraq, is fu(ked. They are laughing at you saying it’s the job of Americans to debate policy and to say it’s fu(ked when it’s fu(ked, and protect the troops from dying for a fu(ked situation, in this case, the situation created by your Kool-Aid serving cult-leader-in-chief. It is you and your cult leader who are hiding behind the troops saying “if you attack my ideas, nomatter how ignorant and utterly derelict those ideas are, then you attack the troops”. How utterly childish and cowardly, no?
I do have one question for you though, what part about “the fiasco in Iraq is fu(ked” do you not understand?
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 pmGO SHERYL!
WOO HOOO!
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:06 pmKarl knows that he is on borrowed time once those e-mails surface.
And in “Rove-speak” the “American People (TM)” are George W, Barney and Karl’s favorite Swiss banker.
We know you’re stashing cash, Karl!
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:20 pmThat to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness… But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmi saw a clip this morning, of a rich little joke from that WHC dinner…
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmi thought it was a very respectable DIG at the shrub…
in character, as dubya, something about dreaming of a wealthy, healthy, happy country… turns out it was switzerland…
kinda funny…
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#22 Erroll (14): We’ve got elections every four years. That’s your chance to effect a change. Criticizing the policies of an elected President when we’re at war only emboldens the enemy.
To quote Theodore Roosevelt (a REPUBLICAN): “To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
This is a democracy. Debate and criticism are to be EXPECTED, even in times of war. You obviously have NO idea what the Founding Fathers were all about. America’s govenrment is set up to protect AGAINST tyranny and absolutism. You, sir, are a MORON.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:39 pmFind the emails that KKKarl lost and all the world’s problems can be solved…we will be able to put his sorry ass in jail and impeach the chimp.
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmIt looks like Rove’s nerves are a little jangling these days.
Excellent……
April 22nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmBravo, Cheryl. You know there are some nasty things added to your FBI file today….
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmIt is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.
And Herr Karl, with his dual citizenship? Let’s hear a spirited defense of that Frank, as you’re so hot to be the TP decider of who is, or isn’t an American.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmMr. Rove, of course, doesn’t work for the American people; he’s only paid by them. He works for Mr. Bush.
His “anger theatrics” were purposeful; he is more controlled than a Jesuit. They got him in the news in a way that only Exxon Mobil could love. And they do.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmI’d love to see a clip of this. When I first read about it, I thought it was a joke!
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmRe: Rove, You know the truths will eventually come out about who and what Rove has done to this country. The timing of upcoming investigations of him will need to be timed so he gets jail and not a pardon.
Billy
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:20 pmHas frank just arrived from outer space? Frank, listen up. We are American citizens here, and we will kick your subversive butt into Tuesday with dumb posts like that. Why do you hate this wonderful country so much? This is America, love it or leave it, you commie puke. If you are just a featherhead, then just keep your antiAmerican mouth shut and listen like a good little boy and you may learn something from the adult Americans.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:22 pm“What really are Rove and company afraid of? What is their endgame? Short term profits are ridiculous if there is no world in 20 years in which to spend them? Do these ass-mallets really want to be the last generation left on earth?
Comment by worst fearsâ€
Their true agenda? They want the end of the world, and the end of any pretext of democracy in America. The sooner the majority of Congress realizes this, the sooner we can repudiate and impeach them. As long as they are given any credit for humanity or honesty, we will continue to be assaulted with the endless lies Rove initiates to preserve their power.
As for the comment by OutSourced, I doubt seriously this “will be in the news.â€
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:27 pmNone of these people are used to hearing dissenting views nor do they know how to react to them.
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:47 pmComment by yathink — April 22, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Ending the world means that nothing (on Earth and even the Earth) here now remains.
Ending Democracy means that the existing governmental systems that support Democratic views are changed into other non-democratic systems.
Why should they (Rove, Bush) need to end Democracy if the bigger picture is that they plan on “ending the worldâ€?? It would seem to me that ending the world in and of itself implies that no government systems will be needed so they only then need to end the world.
By George, (LOL) I think you are wrong Mr. Yathink!
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:57 pmIs Rove married? We hear all about the family lives of the Democrats but I have no idea at all about Rove’s family life. I raise this because I have a theory : he once dated a foxy liberal who dumped him and he’s now getting revenge on the rest of us.
At any rate, for Rove to be upbraided by a MUSICIAN of all things - well that’s just unbearable, isnt it? And a woman to boot?
This man is a pure coward and has just given us a strategic coup. We now know that Rove and his ilk cannot handle being corrected by a liberal woman. (Just like with Pelosi in Syria.) Right wing men (and women) are intimidated by powerful liberal women. This truth needs to be groked better on our side and utilized. WEhat perfect bait. How will it look when they send the Swift Boat Character Assasin Squad after meek liberal female vocalist cancer survivors?
April 22nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmDear Frank Matthews -
Hmm. So your argument is that the only people who should be allowed to protest a war are those who have served.
Okay. Interesting …
Then by extension, I guess, one should only be allowed to protest abortion if one has had one. Right?
Also please let us know where you served so that we can thank you for your service. I mean, let’s be fair.
- R. Y.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:00 pm“It is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.” You’ve been out behind the woodshed drinking that neo-con Kool-Aid haven’t you Frank?
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmIf this is going to be a long struggle I think it is in America’s best interest to redeploy our troops and shift our policy to more fireman and policemen on U.S. soil while investing more money into international police enforcement. Urban guerilla warfare fights in amorphous circles and not along a battle front line.
They want the end of the world, and the end of any pretext of democracy in America. The sooner the majority of Congress realizes this, the sooner we can repudiate and impeach them.
Comment by yathink — April 22, 2007 @ 2:27 pm
Ending the world means that nothing (on Earth and even the Earth) here now remains.
Ending Democracy means that the existing governmental systems that support Democratic views are changed into other non-democratic systems.
Why should they (Rove, Bush) need to end Democracy if the bigger picture is that they plan on “ending the worldâ€?? It would seem to me that ending the world in and of itself implies that no government systems will be needed so they only then need to end the world.
By George, (LOL) I think you are wrong Mr. Yathink!
(Sorry something happened with the EM tags so here is the corrected post)
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmseriously, why is karl rove on the government payroll?
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:05 pm#49 Please try to organize your thoughts next time.
Comment by VerbalKint — April 22, 2007 @ 12:22 pm
Tell me, how could I have done better so that you would be pleased Comrade VerbalKint?
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:06 pmGreat story! We get to see yet another side to Karl Rove. Well, it’s actually the same side: he’s one dimensional. Even so, anytime we get to see Karl lose his cool, lose his self control, and act more like the person we truly know he is, is a time to celebrate. And when he comes out on the short end of the stick (turb blossom that he is) as he did with Sheryl, we all get down to party.
PS Frank would be far happier in Hitler’s Germany, no doubt about it.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:09 pmsplash,
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:14 pmRove has been married twice. First he married a rich girl and divorced after a couple of years. Then he married, had a son and remains married. He did not complete college but became involved in repug politics, and began developing his “talents” as a campaign advisor with unethical methods.
matthews.frank@gmail.com wrote”
“It is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.” Later he also opined that
“Assuming that global warming was real, which it most likely isn’t, I’m sure combating it would be profitable and hence the markets would take care of it.”
Frank,
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmHow are we supposed to form informed opinions pr debate intelligently on how to vote or what to accept if we do not exercise and respect the freedom to voice opinions and dissent?
To brand those who disagree with the administration as less patriotic, less American, or less entitled to speak to our administration diminishes what it is to be American.
It is fair to be skeptical of what and how “facts” are reported, though. Neither of us likely possess sufficient personal knowledge to know for sure whether global warming is a real threat any more than we can trust that Mr. Rove was really that rude and offensive to Ms. Crow or that he is as much a fascist as others here posting portray.
At least you got the notion that opinions are “debatable” right. Also a lot of industry is selling “green” and marketing itself as environmentally firendly. This suggests that you are wrong in your premise that global warming is not a real threat.
Perhaps the free market is responding to the planet warming and address this as profitable. I propose that a free marketplace of ideas also inflates the value of truth and deflates the value of false premises over time. It seems that far fewer of the American people are buying your views these days than when they elected Bush and company. Far more agree with the views ascribed Sheryl Crow and the various persons who on this thread have posted. It would not be surprising that Karl Rove is touchy. At least the global warming crowd won’t literally burn him at the stake-the open fire would contribute unnecessarily to global warming.
You are entitled to buy whichever views you want. As I see it Bush, Cheney and Rove’s politics are way past their expiration date. To me, their policies smell bad like increasing millions of corpses littering an ever warmer planet which these policies appear to accelerate.
Just a thought here regarding the topic…
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:30 pmWhat if Crow happens to be a loud mouthed know it all who Rove simply did not want to talk to any more? What if Crow was the one who was rude? How many of us were present at this event? By the way not everyone agrees about everything so sometimes it is better to just turn away! He might not have wanted the appearance that he solicited the ‘touch’ by Crow. For example, Rove is married and perhaps his wife becomes jealous about things like women touching his husband?
Lucky for Ms. Crowe, the Secret Service weren’t around to shoot her.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmIt is also debatable whether anti-troop celebrities like Ms. Crow should be considered American people.
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matthews.frank@gmail.com
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 22, 2007 @ 11:22 am
I’m sick to death of this kind of rhetoric. “Anti-troop” is allowing them to die for a hopeless cause. You would be one of those.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:32 pm#
I found a very recent group photo of Cheney, Bush, Frank, Roger/2, Rove, Rice, Valiunt Venile, Patrick1, Jason M Hitler, and many others.. They must be stopped.
http://www.gamespot.com/ pages/ image_viewer/ frame_lead.php?pid=935325&img=22
Comment by Can-O-Whoop-Ass — April 22, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Yes.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:33 pmJust a thought here regarding the topic…
What if Crow happens to be a loud mouthed know it all who Rove simply did not want to talk to any more? What if Crow was the one who was rude? How many of us were present at this event? By the way not everyone agrees about everything so sometimes it is better to just turn away! He might not have wanted the appearance that he solicited the ‘touch’ by Crow. For example, Rove is married and perhaps his wife becomes jealous about things like women touching (edited wrong word ‘his’)her husband?
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmGood points, Saywho. What would Lance Armstrong think if Rove was the one who touched Crow?
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmHe might not have wanted the appearance that he solicited the ‘touch’ by Crow. For example, Rove is married and perhaps his wife becomes jealous about things like women touching (edited wrong word ‘his’)her husband?
Comment by Saywho —
Ha, ha, ha … suggesting that anyone would ever touch Karl in a sexually-suggestive manner at the National Press Club dinner, amidst a roomful of journalists, wins the “Unintended Humor of the Day” award. Congrats.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmWhat would Lance Armstrong think if Rove was the one who touched Crow?
Comment by Dan — April 22, 2007
Since they’re no longer a couple, not much, I’d think.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:51 pmI thought they got married?! Oh well, I doubt Crow was touching Rove in a sexually-suggestive manner either, but that’s not Saywho’s point regardless. It also could have been an offensive and unwanted battery.
April 22nd, 2007 at 3:55 pmDan spelled backwards is nad, as in go….
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmGood points, Saywho. What would Lance Armstrong think if Rove was the one who touched Crow?
Comment by Dan — April 22, 2007 @ 3:43 pm
I’m not taking sides on this. I am merely pointing out that there is more than one side to the story and unless someone is pressing charges frankly two people having a spat in public is not that news worthy.
Here for instance is my position on ‘global warming’. I believe that regardless of the cause (I think the cause is the same as that which is causing all bodies in our solar system to rise in temperature) we will not be able to amend it no matter what we do. I want to be wrong since being correct about this implies that we are on the verge of extinction.
Regardless, you may believe that we can correct this and that is your belief. Our opposing views will remain so there is no point in discussion after we have stated our views. This might be applicable to the Crow-Rove Gate event?
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:03 pmHi, Raven (spelled “nevar” backwards).
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmFor example, Rove is married and perhaps his wife becomes jealous about things like women touching her husband?
I made an example to make a point. I’m not suggesting anything sexual or otherwise. The point is this thread could be about Rove being rude or for that matter Crow being rude! Beyond that the whole thing is silly!
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmthus quoth the raven, nevar more…..
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm(Po’ troll)
It also could have been an offensive and unwanted battery.
Comment by Dan —
Or a sign of Rove’s petty, churlish, nature.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmI thought it was Raven Nevar MORR?
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmI understood your point, Saywho. As I said, it was a good point.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:15 pm“How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow?”
She’s pretty, so she can do whatever she wants? What if she was being a loud-mouthed bitch? If someone was being annoying I’d tell them to leave me alone - they don’t get off just because they’re an attractive celebrity.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmRove is just up mad because of other problems he has right now. He got caught as running the DOJ, having Americans illegally arrested, leaking the CI A’s name, Dubai deal, kick back money from Halliburton and so much more. Ms. Crow was getting the attack not for what she said but what pressure he’s under. Now I notice the support Rove is getting from some bloggers. Like the GOP loyalist when Rove is indicted all will say they never knew him. As Bush does with his loyal criminal supporters like Jack Abramoff, Duke, Ney and Libby. Ms. Crow has a right to say what she wants as she pays Rove’s salary he works for the American people. Not to worry George W. Bush will be removed and Karl Rove will be doing time in jail. I hope the jail guards play alot of Ms. Crow’s music for Karl as he’s looking for the soap. By the time Karl gets out of jail he will be Karly.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmFor example, Rove is married and perhaps his wife becomes jealous about things like women touching her husband?
Absurd. He gets touched by women all the time at political fundraisers. Mrs. Rove would be inured to this kind of very-public touching (for what ever reason), at social functions.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmBarfly:
Maybe. For the pruposes of my hypothetical, “battery” is often broken down into gradations for the purposes of determining the severity of punishment. For example:
1) Simple battery may include ANY form of non-consensual, harmful or insulting contact, regardless of the injury caused. Criminal battery requires an intent to inflict an injury on another, as distinguished from a tortious battery.
2) Sexual battery may be defined as non-consensual touching of the intimate parts of another.
3) Family violence battery may be limited in its scope between persons within a certain degree of relationship: statutes with respect to this offense have been enacted in response to increasing awareness of the problem of domestic violence.
4) Aggravated battery is generally regarded as a serious offense of felony grade, involving the loss of the victim’s limb or some other type of permanent disfigurement of the victim. As successor to the common law crime of mayhem, this is sometimes subsumed in the definition of aggravated assault.
In some jurisdictions, battery has recently been constructed to include directing bodily secretions at another person without their permission. In some jurisdictions this automatically is considered aggravated battery.
As a first approximation to the distinction between battery and assault:
(a) the overt behavior of an assault might be A advancing upon B by chasing after him and swinging a fist at his head, while
(b) that of an act of battery might be A actually striking B.
Within United States law, in most jurisdictions, the charge of criminal battery requires evidence of a mental state (mens rea). I’m not sure what District of Columbia law requires.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmWho says she’s an “attractive” celebrity, Bobby. Too much teeth for my liking.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:21 pmIf someone was being annoying I’d tell them to leave me alone - they don’t get off just because they’re an attractive celebrity.
Comment by Bobby
He’s a public servant, who was being asked to change US policy; you’re a private citizen. Big difference.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:22 pmPerhaps the trolls on this string are using their RNC email accounts. Or maybe Rove has some extra time on his hands. Either way, it’s attempting to defend someone who is helping overthrow a democratic form of government. And in my book, that’s a traitor. (Emphasis on “democratic” vs. fixed elections through whatever means.)
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmComment by Dan
Thanks for the unnecessary cut-and-paste, but isn’t he a public figure, as well as a servant of the taxpayers?
Within United States law, in most jurisdictions, the charge of criminal battery requires evidence of a mental state (mens rea).
So you’re making the case that she meant to assault him, to physically harm him? Absurdity on stilts.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmYou’re welcome. “Physical harm” is not necessary, whether he is a public figure or not. Fan site discussing the issue too:
http://www.sherylcrow.com/boards/default.aspx?cid=224
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmWho says she’s an “attractive†celebrity, Bobby. Too much teeth for my liking.
Comment by Dan
And after your previous “substantive” post, this shows the true level of your intellectual maturity.
Shorter Dan: “And she’s ugly, to boot!”
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:30 pmCareful Dan, or you will be accused of “political correctness” with your analysis of the legal definitions of battery. You people will absolutely spin and stretch anyway you can to defend these criminals. Idiot. A majority of the American people have wised up and they are not buying the s**t anymore. There’s a game called “Twister,” which would put your skills to better use. Also has a moral lesson involved.
The game has one spinner, divided into quarters by color; each quadrant specifies left foot, right foot, left hand, or right hand. After spinning, the combination is called; players must move the part to a matching location. No two people can have a part on the same circle (rules are different for more people). Due to the scarcity of colored circles, players will often be required to put themselves in unlikely or precarious positions, eventually resulting in someone’s fall.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:32 pmbattery ???!
talk about mountains out of molehills…
yeesh…
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmYou’re welcome. “Physical harm†is not necessary …
But “mens Rea” isn’t present, unless you can post some evidence that suggests Ms. Crow intended to have a physical confrontation?
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:36 pmI am very proud of Sheryl Crow — now she can get her hand disinfected at the point it touched Evil (a.ka. Turd Blossom)
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:41 pmThe “highlight” of the evening had to be when we were introduced to Karl Rove. How excited were we to have our first opportunity ever to talk directly to the Bush Administration about global warming.
They were introduced to him, and he was walking away after blowing up at them, when she touched his arm — not grabbed — and he reacted so snippishly. Battery? That’s hilarious.
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:47 pmComment by Barfly — April 22, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
He made the point that Rove has every right to tell Crow that the ‘TOUCH’ is not welcomed and to STOP TOUCHING ME! If she persisted then he would be within his rights to have her arrested!
but isn’t he a public figure, as well as a servant of the taxpayers?
Comment by Barfly — April 22, 2007 @ 4:26 pm
Public figures are often threatened and some are assassinated. Some public figures are victims of extortion. Regardless, Rove does not have to permit touching at any time as a citizen public or private. You are a citizen so should you be able to touch Crow w/ out her permission Barfly? She would tell you clearly to “STOP”!
April 22nd, 2007 at 4:49 pmNo wonder Lance kicked her ass out the door.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmJust the type of reaction I would expect from “M.C. Rove”. (Embarassing video, by the way! Stick to your day job, Karl. On second thought, DON’T!!!)
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:04 pmWhy, in a more reasonable world, should Rove’s opinion on global warming be relevent?
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:06 pmPublic figures are often threatened and some are assassinated.
At a National Press Club dinner? With secret service personnel in the room? Highly doubtful.
Regardless, Rove does not have to permit touching at any time as a citizen public or private.
This is taking place between two public figures, in a very public setting. To even suggest that Ms. Crow’s intent was to do other than to gain his attention, after speaking with them at some length, is absurdity in it’s rawest form. Did they shake hands when they were introduced? Will you next claim that it was also battery? I ask again: can you produce evidence of mens rea? If not, your analogy falls flat.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:11 pmT-Blossom was no doubt feeling . . . less than fresh.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:12 pmRove’s a TRAITOR coxucker PUNK. Just like Bush and Cheney.
ALL of them deserve to be in JAIL for the rest of their lives.
God can decide what to do with these MURDERERS afterward.
See you in hell karl (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
Bullies don’t like to be called on their bullying…
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:35 pmI HATE REPUBLICANS!!! They are SLIME! Not worthy of breathing the very air they pollute. Hey, republicans…go to hell!
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:37 pmNothing political here, just an observation in society. That a person in society would allow a good looking person to touch them but not a not-so good looking person. Harrasment for an plain person, but a welcomed advance if your good looking. And the only one who gets to decide if it is welcomed is the person getting the attention. It can get very fuzzy. Yet the good looking person and the plain person may have the exact same “line” and “move”.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:48 pmPolitical power is a different animal. Power is an aphrodesiac like good looks is to you and I. People in Washington are different than the average person. Bill Clinton could have had just about any girl we wanted. He could have had the finest piece of butt in the world and yet he chose Monica. A chunky so-so looking intern because of a power trip. This goes for both partys
Rove…Gonzales…Wolfowitz…Gingrich…and their ilk…
The one piece of good news that I cling to is that, regardless of what happens, there will come a day when I will have the opportunity to piss on all of their graves.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:53 pmPublic figures are often threatened and some are assassinated.
For Rove, I hope it happens.
By a vet or two from this tragedy who have been PERMANENTLY WOUNDED OR MAIMED for the LIES of Bush and the
TREASON OF KARL ROVE…
See you in hell karl (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
Actually, the “science of global warming” is far from settled. It is true that the liberal press has silenced the scientists who offer differing views in their attempt to indoctrinate the public much like Nazi Germany’s Joseph Goebbels. For those interested and for those with an open mind (not many here):
The other side of An Inconvenient Truth.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:55 pmIn his attempt to dismiss us, Mr. Rove turned to head toward his table, but as soon as he did so, Sheryl reached out to touch his arm. Karl swung around and spat, “Don’t touch me.â€
Like applying a cross to a vampire.
April 22nd, 2007 at 5:57 pmHey Laura,
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:00 pmWhat are you, 5 years old. Enough with the name calling. These politicians go to lunch together, later go to a press comference and dog the other side and you buy into it and then they go to dinner together.
And your the only one causing true hate. They do it to get elected, but why do you do it.
GREAT TASTE or LESS FILLING. You cry that GREAT TASTE is the greastest and that you hate LESS FILLING and wish it would die. But remember, it is still the same beer that we are talking about.
#129 FUNNY!!!
So, the fact that the Nazi oil-companies PAID SCHOOLS NOT TO WATCH GORE’S VIDEOS
and PAID “SCIENTISTS” to disavow global warming is NOT
“indoctrination”???
By the BushCrime Saudi-OIL WHOREBAG Nazis????
Yup, YOU are a Nazi TOOL…
See YOU in hell muckdog (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
KKKarl prefers to be slapped around by Jeff (Gannon) Guckert.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:06 pmWow, Cobalt60 and MBGTH
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmYou two have a deep sick venom. I fear for a Virginia Tech type reaction from you both. You are both very fragile mentally and hope Obama keeps you clear of his campaign as you can only be a cancer on a flourishing campaign.
Oh please… somewhere be a tape, audio or visual of that confrontation….
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:22 pmKarl Rove.
Architect. Mastermind. Strategist. Beat up by a skinny girl.
April 22nd, 2007 at 6:54 pmHoping for Rove’s assassination? Nice.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:00 pmMs. Crow better watch it……
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:02 pmHer lib friends may disown her for appearing on FoxNews.
Yeeesch, still here danny boy?
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:08 pmBarfly:
If you come back, I’m not saying Crow is guilty of aggravated battery. However, as I noted, battery has recently been constructed to include directing bodily secretions at another person without their permission, i.e. “Rove spat.” In some jurisdictions, this automatically is considered aggravated battery. I’m just saying there could be more than one way to answer the question: “How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow?”
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:10 pmI’m right here, Capt. Krunch. Are you “waiving farewell?”
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:12 pmI wouldn’t want to be touched by Cindy Sheehan either.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:13 pmI think I just threw up in my mouth when you said Cindy Sheenan.
Thanx
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:29 pmI think if Cheryl Crow still had a carreer, she would be on the road and not at political dinners.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:34 pmThe closeted homo Rove is obviously a self-hating misogynist and couldn’t bear the idea of being in a discussion with two strong willed women. Sheryl Crow has the guts that alot of Democrats in Congress don’t. She is terrific!
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:36 pmWhat, no MC Rove bit this time? Where’s Karl’s sense of humor gone? I guess he is feeling the heat getting a bit closer as Abu got ‘clubbed like a baby seal’ and Monica ‘the Talibangelical’ Goodling is looking at making an immunity deal. Sounds like a total over reaction on his part.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:39 pmSo strong willed that Lance kicked her buck-toothed ass out the door.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:41 pmOf course Crow can have more guts than a lot of Democrats in Congress, she doesnt have to get elected.
April 22nd, 2007 at 7:52 pmI’m just saying there could be more than one way to answer the question: “How hardened and removed from reality must a person be to refuse to be touched by Sheryl Crow?â€
Comment by Dan — April 22, 2007 @ 7:
An absurdist, unreal distinction, as mens rea cannot be shown. Go back to criticizing her looks - that’s your true intellectual depth, isn’t it?
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:00 pm147. “So strong willed that Lance kicked her buck-toothed ass out the door.” Comment by TMac — April 22, 2007 @ 7:41 pm
It’s a nice buck toothed ass tho. Lance is another closeted homo and kicked her out precisely because she is strong willed.
148. “Of course Crow can have more guts than a lot of Democrats in Congress, she doesn’t have to get elected.” Comment by Megan — April 22, 2007 @ 7:52 pm
So, let me get this straight, in order to get elected to Congress, you don’t need guts? Do we want to elect people to Congress that won’t do their job of oversight? Not sure what your point was….
April 22nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmWait, I thought Rove worked for Satan?
IMPEACH THEM ALL!!!
APRIL 28: NATIONWIDE ACTIONS FOR IMPEACHMENT
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:01 pmShe should have stabbed that sombich…
…and told him he’s FIRED!…
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:20 pmShe probably shouldn’t have touched Rove. I mean c’mon, this is the spawn of the devil we’re talkin’ about here.
No touchy! Unless you want your fingers singed.
April 22nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmbig papa:
Had she stabbed Rove under these circumstances, would THAT have been a battery?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:32 amif you do NOT want sheryl crow to touch you, you are not heterosexual.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:37 amComment by Dan
Absurdist twaddle; about what I’d expect from you, given the substance of your previous posts.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 amBarfly:
I think it’s a reasonable question: Had she stabbed Rove under these circumstances, would THAT have been a battery?
junior birdman:
I know plenty of happily married HETEROSEXUAL men who would rather not be touched by Sheryl Crow.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:28 amI bought some art paper today that was made from windmill power only.
I feel at one with the earth.
Of course it was truck in across country.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 amI find it hard to believe… A classy guy like Rove? Nah, couldn’t be…
Pressure most be building.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:15 amgo ahead and name them, dan.
lol
somebody above mentioned ‘ closeted homo ‘ with regard to Fat Traitor rove. it applies.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:03 amSheryl Crow and Laurel David are just another two dumb Hollywood leftists who, like the rest of their ilk, rejected rationalism a long time ago. Crow’s recent “idea” about putting a restriction on the number of toilet sheets people can use - well let’s just say that this whole Global Warming hoax has really exposed the sinister, pseudo-religious, totalitarian nature behind much of the left. As for this “incident” with Rove, well all I can say is how often does the man get into spats like this with pig ignorant “celebrities” who think that just because enough people are stupid enough to watch their tedious movies/listen to their bland music, then that gives them the right to provoke College-level “confrontations” with people they have no intention of showing common courtesy or common respect from the start. If I were Rove, I would have told that horrible woman to stop touching me as well. These two idiots respresent the essence of trash-liberalism - they have no idea how the world works, how anything works, they have no idea what “epistemology” means or how rational people think, they have no powers of conceptual thought, no respect for objectivity or the truth, and to be honest I love Larry David’s comedy but I have to seriously rethink my opinion of him as a person if he actually let himself become marr