Comments on: Rove ‘explodes’ at Crow over global warming. http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/ Thu, 26 Nov 2009 09:55:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: Jim Bell http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3789273 Jim Bell Sun, 06 May 2007 21:34:07 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3789273 The problem is not about individuals, its about understanding solutions that provide real energy savings in the near term so that we see changes, and are motivated to do more. I keep hearing about the need for a "Manhattan Project" style objective. That is a find approach when there is really no other solution, but let's go for some real savings now. We know that CFL's have an impact, how do we get more people to recognize that? Also, companies like www.gridlogix.com and the Texas A&M energy group (look up Re-Commissioning or see www.machine2enterprise.com) have solutions that can reduce energy usage in an average commercial building by 10-20% by optimizing the control software in the building. Across the nation that would result in reducing consumption of 500M barrels of oil/yr and the CO2 output of 25M cars. I think we should focus on real solutions. The problem is not about individuals, its about understanding solutions that provide real energy savings in the near term so that we see changes, and are motivated to do more. I keep hearing about the need for a “Manhattan Project” style objective. That is a find approach when there is really no other solution, but let’s go for some real savings now. We know that CFL’s have an impact, how do we get more people to recognize that?

Also, companies like http://www.gridlogix.com and the Texas A&M energy group (look up Re-Commissioning or see http://www.machine2enterprise.com) have solutions that can reduce energy usage in an average commercial building by 10-20% by optimizing the control software in the building. Across the nation that would result in reducing consumption of 500M barrels of oil/yr and the CO2 output of 25M cars.

I think we should focus on real solutions.

]]> By: Mr. President http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3788127 Mr. President Sat, 05 May 2007 17:17:25 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3788127 Yeah, I heard that Crow and David got down on their knees and started grabbing at Rove's package. When Karl looked down and saw those old hoes lusting out of control for a man with two testicles, he said: "Bitch please! You ain't know? I'm a playa don't put your filthy hands on me! I'm straight pimpin' biyatch. and... I'm outta dis bitch. Church." Yeah, I heard that Crow and David got down on their knees and started grabbing at Rove’s package. When Karl looked down and saw those old hoes lusting out of control for a man with two testicles, he said: “Bitch please! You ain’t know? I’m a playa don’t put your filthy hands on me! I’m straight pimpin’ biyatch. and… I’m outta dis bitch. Church.”

]]> By: Greg http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3787154 Greg Fri, 04 May 2007 19:51:43 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3787154 Only Crows and Davids side is published here. Typical left wing journalism. My understanding of the encounter is substantially different than what is presented by Sherry and her "friend"..... Only Crows and Davids side is published here. Typical left wing journalism. My understanding of the encounter is substantially different than what is presented by Sherry and her “friend”…..

]]> By: William Mills http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3787144 William Mills Fri, 04 May 2007 19:48:40 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3787144 I think the bush administration has pushed the american people almost to the breaking point. Thank GOD It's almost over. The behavior of some of these civil SERVANTS is anything but civil. Kind of reminds me of a time when there were kings and peasants. And guess who's who? BOTTOM LINE........ It's all about OIL DOLLARS. Hmmmm! I wonder who's pocket that goes into..... I think the bush administration has pushed the american people almost to the breaking point. Thank GOD It’s almost over. The behavior of some of these civil SERVANTS is anything but civil. Kind of reminds me of a time when there were kings and peasants. And guess who’s who? BOTTOM LINE…….. It’s all about OIL DOLLARS. Hmmmm! I wonder who’s pocket that goes into…..

]]> By: Eric Straatsma http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3787031 Eric Straatsma Fri, 04 May 2007 19:01:12 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3787031 What we need is a sustainable future. There is only one planet. There is only ONE future. What is good for seven future generations of our childrens' children? What we need is a sustainable future. There is only one planet. There is only ONE future. What is good for seven future generations of our childrens’ children?

]]> By: Eric Straatsma http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3787026 Eric Straatsma Fri, 04 May 2007 18:59:15 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3787026 We can plan for a sustainable future, no matter if we agree or not on global warming. What is good for seven future generations? We can plan for a sustainable future, no matter if we agree or not on global warming. What is good for seven future generations?

]]> By: Craig http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786898 Craig Fri, 04 May 2007 18:15:31 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786898 I love the arrogance of these self-absorbed activists. For Sheryl Crow to claim that she IS 'the American people' is both pretentious and insulting. She certainly doesn't speak for this American and her fanatical devotion and ministry for the new religion of Global Warming means less than nothing to me. I love the arrogance of these self-absorbed activists. For Sheryl Crow to claim that she IS ‘the American people’ is both pretentious and insulting. She certainly doesn’t speak for this American and her fanatical devotion and ministry for the new religion of Global Warming means less than nothing to me.

]]> By: null http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786857 null Fri, 04 May 2007 17:52:41 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786857 Juan, author of post #180, see #165 above Juan, author of post #180, see #165 above

]]> By: null http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786853 null Fri, 04 May 2007 17:49:34 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786853 The truth is, if a person puts his or her hand on you then you have a right to tell them: "Don't touch me!" Crow and Rove got into a trivial confrontation, and I can not believe I wasted my time following the link from MSN.com. Furthermore, despite all of the imbecility on this page, William from post 165, I feel for you, but using that vocabulary incorrectly does not help your case. Did Crow or another nut-job say something about "epistemology"? If so then you are in the right. However, read up on the current philosophic consensus regarding "objective truth". This is not the forum to be discussing criteria for epistemic objectivity or meaning. (See: Quine, Feyerabend, and Sellers) The truth is, if a person puts his or her hand on you then you have a right to tell them: “Don’t touch me!” Crow and Rove got into a trivial confrontation, and I can not believe I wasted my time following the link from MSN.com. Furthermore, despite all of the imbecility on this page, William from post 165, I feel for you, but using that vocabulary incorrectly does not help your case. Did Crow or another nut-job say something about “epistemology”? If so then you are in the right. However, read up on the current philosophic consensus regarding “objective truth”. This is not the forum to be discussing criteria for epistemic objectivity or meaning. (See: Quine, Feyerabend, and Sellers)

]]> By: candace http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786717 candace Fri, 04 May 2007 16:49:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786717 Its hard to be partiotic when you know you are being lied to...bottom line. Why can't we put the dollar sign down and really be what the founders of this country intended. We should lead by example in this world. We are a fortunate country, we need to start acting like it. What happened to the importance of being a good person?? Its hard to be partiotic when you know you are being lied to…bottom line. Why can’t we put the dollar sign down and really be what the founders of this country intended. We should lead by example in this world. We are a fortunate country, we need to start acting like it. What happened to the importance of being a good person??

]]> By: Mike http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786672 Mike Fri, 04 May 2007 16:28:48 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786672 I cut down a tree today!!! And it screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeamed! I cut down a tree today!!! And it screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeamed!

]]> By: Tiredof Itall http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786322 Tiredof Itall Fri, 04 May 2007 13:00:45 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786322 Crow??? Singer at best, but not a environmental expert! Everyone trying to save the world but no one has an idea how too. The same kind of people that preach against eating meat but then turn around a B#^$H about "illegal imigration" used to plant and harvest the crops. And if we use equipment to harvest the crops they B%$#H about "global warming". So we hire the greatest workforce in the world to do it by hand - "Amreican Labor" and now you B*^$H about the cost of food. Everyone B*%#HING, no one ANSWERING!!! Sheryl, go home and turn your lights off or better yet leave them on and "B^#@H about it!! Crow??? Singer at best, but not a environmental expert! Everyone trying to save the world but no one has an idea how too.
The same kind of people that preach against eating meat but then turn around a B#^$H about “illegal imigration” used to plant and harvest the crops. And if we use equipment to harvest the crops they B%$#H about “global warming”. So we hire the greatest workforce in the world to do it by hand – “Amreican Labor” and now you B*^$H about the cost of food. Everyone B*%#HING, no one ANSWERING!!!
Sheryl, go home and turn your lights off or better yet leave them on and “B^#@H about it!!

]]> By: doug bertel http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786296 doug bertel Fri, 04 May 2007 11:51:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786296 its proven that the planet is changing, and regardless of who or what is to blame (i still believe that humans are the largest contributor) we need to do something about it. change starts locally at your own home and city, but society needs the backing and funding from the national level. as my all time favorite professor said in my undergrad work in an environmental planning class, "think about how every action you do will affect the next 7 generations"...thats your great great great great great grandchildren you have to consider. its proven that the planet is changing, and regardless of who or what is to blame (i still believe that humans are the largest contributor) we need to do something about it. change starts locally at your own home and city, but society needs the backing and funding from the national level. as my all time favorite professor said in my undergrad work in an environmental planning class, “think about how every action you do will affect the next 7 generations”…thats your great great great great great grandchildren you have to consider.

]]> By: Juan Valdez http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3786277 Juan Valdez Fri, 04 May 2007 10:03:01 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3786277 My only problem with the "Global Warming" issue is that just because we all agree that our planet changing, nobody so far can prove to me that we are responsible for such changes. You guys went from "the next ice age" issue just ten years ago to "global warming" this year. You and your group of self serving hiprocates hippies should go back to the science class that you missed while smoking pot and introducing LSD to America to learn that CONCENSUS is not science. Science is ABSOLUTE and until you guys show proof that by buying mercury filled $3.00 lightbulbs and cleaning my butt with just one piece of toilet paper will save the planet, I will continue to buy 69 cents incandescent lightbulbs and using as much paper (trees are a renewable source) as I deam necessary to use. I want to use all my "carbon credits" rather than for your God Al Gore to use them so he can run a $3,200.00 electric bill to heat up his olympic size pool. What a bunch of losers you are! My only problem with the “Global Warming” issue is that just because we all agree that our planet changing, nobody so far can prove to me that we are responsible for such changes.

You guys went from “the next ice age” issue just ten years ago to “global warming” this year. You and your group of self serving hiprocates hippies should go back to the science class that you missed while smoking pot and introducing LSD to America to learn that CONCENSUS is not science. Science is ABSOLUTE and until you guys show proof that by buying mercury filled $3.00 lightbulbs and cleaning my butt with just one piece of toilet paper will save the planet, I will continue to buy 69 cents incandescent lightbulbs and using as much paper (trees are a renewable source) as I deam necessary to use. I want to use all my “carbon credits” rather than for your God Al Gore to use them so he can run a $3,200.00 electric bill to heat up his olympic size pool. What a bunch of losers you are!

]]> By: Brent Dillahunty http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3766474 Brent Dillahunty Tue, 24 Apr 2007 16:15:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3766474 I find it ironic that Rove spells his name using the German spelling of 'Karl'. He is a mirror image to Hitler's pimp of propaganda Josef Goebles. Unfortunately, 'Karl-baby'(I use this term because of his infantile tantrum) probably doesn't even understand the concept of ironic much less MORONIC, which more aptly defines him. I find it ironic that Rove spells his name using the German spelling of ‘Karl’. He is a mirror image to Hitler’s pimp of propaganda Josef Goebles.

Unfortunately, ‘Karl-baby’(I use this term because of his infantile tantrum) probably doesn’t even understand the concept of ironic much less MORONIC, which more aptly defines him.

]]> By: tom baker http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3765378 tom baker Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:10:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3765378 righties sissies pitchin little hissies gettin punk'd by the missies righties

sissies

pitchin little hissies

gettin punk’d by the missies

]]> By: Uknowwho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3765239 Uknowwho Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:18:57 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3765239 Karl Rove is a big fat idiot and so are the trolls. Neener Neener! Karl Rove is a big fat idiot and so are the trolls. Neener Neener!

]]> By: think douche http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3764101 think douche Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:06:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3764101 This website has really degenerated. You really think this was about anything more than making these two publicity whores more money? Of course it is straight up rude to interrupt someone\'s dinner, even if it someone as despicable as Karl Rove. What did you think his reaction would be? \"Oh sit down, my dears, lets chat.\" ThinkProgress has become a site for tools. Sad... This website has really degenerated. You really think this was about anything more than making these two publicity whores more money? Of course it is straight up rude to interrupt someone\’s dinner, even if it someone as despicable as Karl Rove. What did you think his reaction would be? \”Oh sit down, my dears, lets chat.\” ThinkProgress has become a site for tools. Sad…

]]> By: Saywho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3764033 Saywho Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:39:05 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3764033 <em>Furthermore, more likely than not, Sheryl Crow is just lying and trying to get publicity. Comment by Valiantthehater — April 23, 2007 @ 10:23 am</em> Yep she is SELLING a CLOTHING LINE that has DETACHABLE SLEEVE that YOU can WIPE YOUR FACE ON rather than USING A NAPKIN... Tick Tock Tick Tock DING MmMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm isn't that the same as a cloth napkin but instead shows as a sloppy mess attached to your arm. She should not get credit for that by the way since I invented wiping my ass on my hand and wiping my mouth on my sleeve years ago. Furthermore, more likely than not, Sheryl Crow is just lying and trying to get publicity.

Comment by Valiantthehater — April 23, 2007 @ 10:23 am

Yep she is SELLING a CLOTHING LINE that has DETACHABLE SLEEVE that YOU can WIPE YOUR FACE ON rather than USING A NAPKIN…

Tick Tock Tick Tock DING

MmMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm isn’t that the same as a cloth napkin but instead shows as a sloppy mess attached to your arm. She should not get credit for that by the way since I invented wiping my ass on my hand and wiping my mouth on my sleeve years ago.

]]> By: Saywho http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/comment-page-4/#comment-3764023 Saywho Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:33:23 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/22/rove-explodes-at-crow-over-global-warming/#comment-3764023 Here is the BBC article regarding how much TP Crow feels is acceptable for members of TP or for that matter anyone... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6583067.stm Lovely smile on Miss. Crow pictured at this link... http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42834000/jpg/_42834441_crowe_ap203b.jpg So Miss Crow wants to sell something she claims to have invented... <blockquote>She has designed a clothing line with what she calls a "dining sleeve". The sleeve is detachable and can be replaced with another "dining sleeve" after the diner has used it to wipe his or her mouth.</blockquote> What if Miss Crow had her "DINING SLEEVE" on and rove didn't want any goo that she had smeared on it to get on his $1800.00 suite? Here is the BBC article regarding how much TP Crow feels is acceptable for members of TP or for that matter anyone…

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6583067.stm

Lovely smile on Miss. Crow pictured at this link…

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42834000/jpg/_42834441_crowe_ap203b.jpg

So Miss Crow wants to sell something she claims to have invented…

She has designed a clothing line with what she calls a “dining sleeve”.

The sleeve is detachable and can be replaced with another “dining sleeve” after the diner has used it to wipe his or her mouth.

What if Miss Crow had her “DINING SLEEVE” on and rove didn’t want any goo that she had smeared on it to get on his $1800.00 suite?

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