Broder: Reid Is A ‘Bumbling’ ‘Embarrassment’
Broder: Reid Is A ‘Bumbling’ ‘Embarrassment’
David Broder, the sagely insightful “dean” of the Washington press corps, attacked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) today over his claim that the war in Iraq is lost.
Speaking on XM radio, Broder said that Reid should “learn to engage mind before mouth opens,” and suggested that Reid’s Senate allies “have a little caucus and decide how much further they want to carry Harry Reid” and his “bumbling performance.”
Asked if Harry Reid is “an embarrassment,” Broder said, “I think so,” since “every six weeks or so there’s another episode where he has to apologize for the way in which he has bungled the Democratic case.”
CLICK HERE TO LISTENThis is the prototypical Washington “gaffe” which reporters like Broder find so “embarrassing.” It doesn’t matter whether what Harry Reid said was actually true or false, but whether it was impolitic. And what determines whether it was impolitic isn’t the opinion of American public, but whether conservatives got angry and called Reid “reckless” and “disgraceful.”
It’s apparently irrelevant that Reid’s views are shared by President Bush’s regular military adviser Henry Kissinger, or senior U.S. military officials, or the majority of the American people.
Maybe David Broder can “revisit and revise” his comments about Reid too.
UPDATE: Greg Sargent: “I just checked with Reid’s office, and they told me in no uncertain terms that Reid has not apologized for any of his remarks during his first four months as majority leader.”
Transcript:
EDWARDS: White House and congressional Republicans really blasted Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid for saying the war in Iraq is lost. Do Republicans believe it can still be won?
BRODER: Uh, Republicans, some of them believe that, and Democrats, by and large, wish that Harry Reid would learn to engage mind before mouth opens. This has become kind of a pattern for him, and, uh, I think at some point down the road the Democrats are gonna have to have a little caucus and decide how much further they want to carry Harry Reid. They’ve got able people on the Senate side, and they don’t have to put up with this kind of bumbling performance forever.
EDWARDS: You think Harry Reid is an embarrassment to the Democrats?
BRODER: I think so. I mean, he has been a pretty effective leader but he is verbally just a real loose cannon and it seems to me, Bob, that about every six weeks or so there’s another episode where he has to apologize for the way in which he has bungled the Democratic case.
Reid’s view that we have already lost is not shared by Kissinger, current U.S. military officials, or the majority of the American people.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:25 amJust another reason why newspapers are losing customers every day.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 amApril 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 am
Broder is a wanker.
Does he have an email address so that we can disabuse him of his polite notions of Senate comportment?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 amAs a Democrat I wish more leaders would speak up like Harry Reid. And we don’t need neocon commentators to tell us what’s good for our party.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:26 amThis is just another untreated case of gasbagitus. Reid is doing just fine.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 amHmmm, the old bait and switch.
When asked directly if Reid was correct, Broder diverted the conversation into a specious attack upon Reid, rather than commenting on the merits (or even lack thereof) of what Reid said.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:28 amIt would be nice if the press would at least use the full quote.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:30 amIt is an embarrassment to me for the Liberal Press to have their asses up Dubya, the drunken moron’s ass, all the time. Was it an embarrassment when William F. Buckley made a similar comment approximately a year ago? What about when Chuck Hagel said the same.
This war is over, we lost and we lost because of the neo-conservatives who spend more time blaming others than looking at their own actions. Screw Broder and the rest of the ass kissing Washington Press Corp.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 amAh yes, Mr. Broder…. hope you don’t mind if I share a little anecdote with the readers here….
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:31 amThe Broder family had an old tattered beach cottage on a certain island in the northern end of Lake Michigan.
Which they proceeded to enclose within an over-the-top mega beach house, thereby preserving for posterity all their fond memories.
Weird.
nico - just curious… is your mom a red-head?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 amyou have that certain “bite” i’m reminded of…
as a daughter of, and a mother of, a red-head…
just wondering…
:-)
Holy sh*t …… How much more of this garbage can I take? These same Repowhore AHoles called for Les Aspin to resign after a few guys (18) got killed in blackdowk down-town……
Bush lost the worst war in American history,
3323 dead in Iraq so far………………
bankrupted us and shredded the army and NOTHING has been done about new orleans either….
Total incompetence!
If Republican CEO Hall of Famer Lee Iacocca thinks the country is being managed this badly, why not Broder too? Isnt that AHole paying attention?
Why cant one of us get on the main stream media and call that guy out for being a white house propagandist ???
Cant think Progress DO ANYTHING???
jesus.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 amNice coral lip gloss, David…
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 amDavid Broder is an embarrassment to journalism.
Wait - check that. David Broder is an embarrassment to humanity.
Pot, meet kettle.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 amReid had the guts to state the obvious. The unstoppable force has been stopped in Iraq. Just because we cannot be defeated on any battlefield, it does not follow that we can win in each and every theater.
Nobody wants to hear the words “we cannot win” when the word “we” refers to the US of A but facts have to be faced - especially when denying the facts will certainly cost us more than we can afford.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 am“Mike Post sez:
Kissinger???
Well, it looks like Shakey’s blown another gasket…attempting to discredit Reid by invoking Kissinger is a bit like attempting to discredit Churchill by invoking Mussolini.
TP, can we please have a better troll? Just rebranding the same, tired, worn-out troll and sending him back into the fray is obviously not working.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:33 amThe war is lost and was lost since it was founded on lies and unjustice. Thousands of civilians dead, millions of exiled, millions living in fear, terrorism on the rise, kidnappings, beheadings, torture, and death. Which side is the embarrasing one, stupid a-hole?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:34 amJust to let you know, Brownie’s doing a heck of a job.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:36 amI like his pursed lips. Reminds me of somebody.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 amBroder has been a colossal embarrassment for years, but he isn’t alone. We are ruled by dead men, an entire zombie-fied establishment. I haven’t read a newspaper or watched TV except sporadically for years. That helps. The more of us who do this, the sooner something better may arise.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 amCan you quote the full Buckley comment, kasinca? I had not heard about that before.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 am“Reid’s view that we have already lost is not shared by Kissinger, current U.S. military officials, or the majority of the American people.”
A citation would be nice. But I will add that the majority of the American people want us out of Iraq NOW.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:37 amI believe the full quote runs something along the lings of Ried stating that he told Bush that Ried believes that Bush and his administration know the war is lost but are running out the clock until a new administration comes in so that the new administration will have to deal with W and VP’s mess. Ried did not state that he thought the war was lost. And, even if he did, who cares . . ..
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:39 amIt’s only going to get more impolitic.
I predict it won’t be long until some high-level person (media or government) explicitly alleges that the preznit is mentally ill.
Reid has come as close as I’ve seen … so far.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amReid was candid, and Broder can’t handle candor, especially where it may offend members of the D.C. dinner party circuit. He’s not a journalist — he’s a grumpy old man annoyed at the generation that is running things. (And he looks like Jr. Soprano fading away in the nursing home.)
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amTo comment number 9…
I agree with everything you say except the comment about the “Liberal Press”. There is nothing liberal about the press that Broder and his ilk represent, only corporate concerns.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amIs it just me, or are all the talking news heads looking a bit long in the tooth? I mean, talk about your dead white European males. Looking at Broder’s picture makes me think he probably remembers Rich Little’s debut on Judy Garland’s show. No wonder most informed Americans get their news from the Net or The Daily Show. This guy is DOA.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:40 amI’ve met Broder and used to respect him, but now he’s a hollow shill of a man.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 amBroder,who asked you?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:41 amHarry Reid is correct.
Harry also knows that this is no longer a war to be won or lost,but a war to enrich all the Bush/Cheney buddies with our tax dollars as fast as possible.
Here’s the full Reid quote for the trolls:
Now, go sit on it, Potsie.
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April 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 amLike EVERY time the CONTURD media quote a Democrat OUT OF CONTEXT-
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:42 amhis next sentence was that a military solution wasn’t possible, which the Cletii of the MSM and CONTURD media both conveniently “forget”.
Sure glad I don’t have to look across my table at broder in the morning….Yike’s! what a scowler and he lies to…Geees these guy’s are all like troll’s…..BTW..TP can you recycle these old boring troll’s please and send us some fresh one’s….Thank’s in advance….Blessings
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:43 amNote to Broder: Bush is the embarrassment you need to worry about.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 am#21
Or words to that effect….
http://www.nationalreview.com/ buckley/ buckley200602241451.asp
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:44 amHey Broder, what do you think of Our Dear Leader?
C’mon you frickin’ whore, be honest….
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 amCan you quote the full Buckley comment, kasinca? I had not heard about that before.
Comment by Mike Post — April 23, 2007 @ 11:37 am
Why don’t YOU go look for it. Can’t you neocons do anything yourselves?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:45 amCan you quote the full Buckley comment, kasinca? I had not heard about that before.
Comment by Mike Post — April 23, 2007 @ 11:37 am
that’s what you get for not paying attention…
here are three threads at TP:
http://thinkprogress.org/?s=Buckley
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:46 amRemember when Broder used to do insightful and thoughtful commetary? No! Neither do I.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 amWe know who the bumbling embarrassment is and it ain’t Reid. It’s the head bushie, and all his little bushies, whose incompetence, ineptitude, and disconnectedness have given us the greatest foreign policy disaster ever. Broder is an embarrassment who has been completely wrong for some time now.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:47 amHey, Broder’s talking about the one area where he has real experience and true expertise - bumbling incompetency, mainly his own.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:48 amI don’t have a problem with Reid coming out against our troops. I just wish he would have added his personal plan for victory. Simply saying the troops have failed is pretty weak and heartless. He really needs to produce a plan for victory otherwise Reid’s comments are worthless and hurtful. BTW, what is the Dem plan to gain freedom and democracy for the Iraqi people?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 amThis is the full quote I was referring to:
“I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and — you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows — this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday.”
Reid’s comments also touched off many US Veterans which prompted Veterans of Foreign Wars Commander-in-Chief Gary Kurpius to “urge Senator Reid to stop his defeatist rhetoric because of the negative impact it is having on the morale of American forces and their families.” Kurpius said Thursday was not the first time Sen. Reid has slammed US troops in Iraq, saying that on April 2 in Las Vegas Reid had said that the Iraq war was “a failure.”
“Senator Reid claims to be a legislator who knows how to compromise, but his repeated comments are having an extremely negative impact on our troops, their families and our allies around the world,” said Kurpius.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 amThis is just classic Republican projection.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:49 amThis the same Broder who back in Feb, declared: “President Bush is poised for a political comeback?”
Pardon me while I laugh in your face David…Bahahahaha!
This war was, in fact, lost when Bush stole the election in 2000. To prop up a veritable failure in everything he touched and sell him as some sort of ‘God-fearing’ Neocon savior only makes monkeys out of the people who voted for him and the rest of us angrily justified in our outcry. Broder, et. al. hitched their wagons to an anvil and are now launching the slings and arrows up at those unwilling to join his accelerating plummet.
“You’ll be sooorrrrrryyyyyyyy…………”
Broder has resorted to name-calling since he cannot cite real merits of throwing away our bravest soldiers into Bush’s vanity war. David Broder is only trying to earn his money barking on command for his corporate masters.
Roll-over David! Good boy!
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amThe President gave away operational information on the troops in Bagdad. I think that hurts the troops more that anything Reid said!!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:50 amThanks, katy, but none of those Buckley quotes refer to a “LOST war”. Even I agree that we were not able to meet the American objective of a quick war and subsequent peaceful democracy in Iraq. We are continuing regardless of that initial setback. That is quite different from Reid saying we’ve already lost.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:52 amBroder gives clear, irrefutable evidence that patriotism rots the brain
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:53 amThis war was, in fact, lost when Bush stole the election in 2000.
Comment by Commons3nse
That is so true.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 amWhy doesn’t he talk about the bumbling by Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Bremmer etal. who made “the war” imminently unwinnable a long, long time ago. Reid is one of the few that has the guts and insight to say what is true. Broder should be taking on the main-stream media for their failures and for aiding and abetting these reckless and irresponsible jerks for the worst foreign policy debacle in our history! He passed the litmus test for being a republican–he’s throwing blame on someone else in order to minimize his own “bumbling” and that of an almost criminal lack of responsiblity by the new media.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:55 amMike Post #21
http://www.truthout.org/ cgi-bin/ artman/ exec/ view.cgi/ 59/ 18789
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 amSee my comments to katy, kasinca. I have to go, but I will be back tomorrow.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 amWe are continuing regardless of that initial setback. That is quite different from Reid saying we’ve already lost.
Comment by Mike Post — April 23, 2007 @ 11:52 am
Initial setback that is lasting more than 4 years by now.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amReality meet Mike, Mike meet reality.
#41 - Don’t the Iraqi people already have a government that they elected into office?
Well, other than the hand-picked people that Pres. Bush and his Administration have placed into the Iraqi government, that is.
Don’t the Iraqi people already have soldiers that are trained to secure their own country? What was it Pres. Bush said: 5 regiments that are fully trained?
It looks like the war is over, it’s just the Civil War that the Iraqi’s have to contend with now.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amBroder 101:
Heads, Republicans Win.
Tails, Democrats Lose.
See, it’s a bipartisan arrangement, since both sides are represented!
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:57 amYou say Broder, I say turn the radio off!
“Nope. The Stupidest Man Alive Is David S. Broder”
Enough to drive anybody shrill:
http://shrillblog.blogspot.com/ 2007_04_01_archive.html#2874490671116083524
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 amBroder is supposed to be a news professional, yet he’s nothing more than a shameless political propagandist for the Bush administration. Is anyone really “surprised” that he’s attacking Reid for what Bush is most guilty of; being a “bumbling embarassment”!? That’s like Ken Melhman accusing Arnold Schwarzenegger of being effimenent. Bush Republicans are either purposeful liars or cloistered neo-con fools. And sometimes, as in Broder’s case, both.
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 amComment by Mike Post — April 23, 2007 @ 11:49 am
it is common etiquette to supply the link to such posts…
you really should return the favor, at the least…
as for your doubts about Kissinger, current U.S. military officials, or the majority of the American people, do you undertand the the words and phrases that are underlined are links to the source?
well, now you do…
that’s all for that one, shane… good point..
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 amBTW, what is the Dem plan to gain freedom and democracy for the Iraqi people?
Comment by Roger_Roger — April 23, 2007 @ 11:49 am
So that is the Republican’s plan. Do nothing until Bush’s term is over and then let the Democrats solve the problem. So you want soldiers and Iraqis just to keep dying because Bush dug this whole so deep and has no idea how to get out.
And this is the leader you’re so proud of?
April 23rd, 2007 at 11:58 amRoger_Rhetoric sez:
RR, I refer you to Sparky the Penguin from This Modern World fame for an answer to your question:
And before you ask, it’s every bit as feasible Chimpy’s “plan”.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmthe only embarrasment is broder and his vicious tongue - another paranoid armchair general who wouldnt be caught dead fighting this illegal war in iraq, yet doesnt mind sniping from the back row
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm“Senator Reid claims to be a legislator who knows how to compromise, but his repeated comments are having an extremely negative impact on our troops, their families and our allies around the world,†said Kurpius.
Comment by Mike Post — April 23, 2007 @ 11:49 am
I’ll bet Kurpius is a Republican. Why should Reid care what he thinks when the President says “screw you” to everybody who voted a majority of Democrats into congress?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pmis there a move underfoot within the hardcore bushies to make the blanket denials like the first post here in continuance of the gop’s tactic
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:02 pmof repeating a lie often enough for people to believe it? that coal-fired
locomotive frm pettycoat junction that the gop had disguised as a bullet train has run off the tracks, it is likely to require extensive repairs and a return to its glory days will take a long time, if , indeed, it is even possible.
Broder has a firm grasp of the obvious. Wonder why it took him so long to figure out that Surrender Harry Reid is indeed an idiot and an appeaser.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:03 pmRogerx2 How painful is your terminal matastasized idealogy? We see you nashing and writhing, it seems very painful the death of your failed ideology and party. We see you remain stuck in stage one of what Elizabeth Kubler Ross called denial or have you slipped into anger?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:04 pmBroder is just another neocon sycophant. Of course the war is lost. It was lost before it was even began, since ‘winning’ per se, has only been at best an afterthought.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:05 pmThe purpose underlying all the bloodshed, lies and hubris has been PROFIT.
Only the ‘dimmest lightbulb’ could believe that there’s a deeper modivation behind BushCo, except ‘INCREASING PROFITS‘!
RogerX2, and twice as dumb… Tell me was your father your mothers brother?
Now the question is… What are YOU going to do about an incompetent administration? Don’t push all your failures off on democrats, oh I know you GOP’ers are nothing but a bunch of pussy-ass-coward-child-molesting-cheating-lying-CHO’s. With no ideas of your own, only slogans. Face it roger, YOU SUCK. Your administration sucks, and sadly now so does all of America in the worlds eyes.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 pmPatrick1.
*yawn*
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:08 pmOhnoes! We’re doomed!
The Republicans are going to destroy us in the 2006 mid-terms.
Oh yeah. This is going to kill us. Just like Pelosi’s trip to Syria. You know, the one that happened just before her poll numbers went up, and the president’s went down?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pmBroder has always been a GOP favoring “political writer.” Cheney/rove have pulled his chain and he’s delivering the attack. The rove game plan continues. . . attack the person and Americans will forget about the message. Thankfully, for Americans, it is no longer working. This is a failed president and no amount of attacking anyone critical of bushco will change the reality of the numerous blunders and incompetence.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pmThe Dems are invested in a US defeat in Iraq. The US did not win the Korean War. We lost the Viet Nam War, capitulated in Lebanon and Somalia. We cannot afford to be defeated in Iraq, despite the benefit this defeat may present to the Democrats.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:10 pm#41, Nice try RR, but Reid never said the troops failed, His comment was directed towards the president and his course (curse?) of action. Or do you have a different quote that you are thinking of? Also why do they have to have a plan to replace failure? Ever think that there are no achievable goals If that is the case then there is no point to staying in Iraq. And simply wishing for a people to accept democracy from the barrel of a gun is not necessarily an achievable goal, It is more akin to a kid wishing they could jump from building to building like Spiderman. You can think about it all you want, and it may happen in your dreams, but in reality it aint gonnna happen. Thus far I have seen nothing showing that the White House goals are attainable, other than the wishes and will power of the president. Sorry, you need much more than that.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:11 pmNow the question is… What are YOU going to do about an incompetent administration? Don’t push all your failures off on democrats, oh I know you GOP’ers are nothing but a bunch of pussy-ass-coward-child-molesting-cheating-lying-CHO’s. With no ideas of your own, only slogans. Face it roger, YOU SUCK. Your administration sucks, and sadly now so does all of America in the worlds eyes.
Comment by Can-O-Whoop-Ass —
Wow. I’m in love….
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:12 pmAnd before you ask, it’s every bit as feasible Chimpy’s “planâ€.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — April 23, 2007 @ 12:01 pm
Dang, why didn’t I think of that? Thanks TMM.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:13 pmLet’s take a moment and consider who Broder is defending. David Broder is defending Bush.
George W. Bush.
This George W. Bush. (Keep in mind, short of Mitt-mentum or St. McCain, this is the smartest guy the republicans could muster! This is their champion!) It’s like booing at the special olympics!
The Letterman top ten from the Correspondents dinner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8px_KyIFyo
I actually almost feel sorry for these fools who cluelessly and slavishly support President Short Bus…
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmI wish one of these bumbling embarrassments in the administration would define VICTORY, instead of smearing everyone who points out the obvious (that there is no plan for victory).
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmYee haa! Where can I get a can-o-that-stuff ?!
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:14 pmBroder should retire. He’s lost any ability he every had for thoughtful, independent, and reasonable analysis.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:16 pmPatrick1.
*yawn*
Comment by Juan C — April 23, 2007 @ 12:08 pm
The start of a new work week for Patrick1 and he’s already tiresome. He is obviously overpaid at any rate even if he’s a volunteer.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:17 pmHi Zoeey,
I’m taken by a nice sweet ex-christian :)
But we can be friends and kick idiots asses together! :)
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 pmI think Reid and the democratic leadership have bungled, are are bungling, the Democratic case, though not for the reasons Broder claims.
The Democratic leadership has bungled their case by failing to act aggressively. The need for impeachment hearings is more than evident, yet they spend weeks and months going after Samson and Gonzales. These guys need to be much more forceful and aggressive in their prosecution of this ongoing criminal enterprise known as the Bush Administration.
To paraphrase Winston Churchill: There is no need to be polite when your enemy has stated his intention to drive you into the sea and drown you.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:19 pmOnce apon a time George Bush didn’t lie about the Iraq war.
That day he said that “we have to win the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.”
He didn’t lie about needing this to “win”.
It was as true then as it is now.
The lie was that he ever intended to do this at all. He didn’t. Those hearts and minds are full of hate and with good reason.
The occupation is is a failure. It has been lost by 4 years of lies, torture, mismanagement, corruption, and the inability to acknowledge ANY mistakes or make ANY attempt to correct any of them.
That’s reality.
Bush and the fools that worship him live someplace else.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pm“That is quite different from Reid saying we’ve already lost. Comment by Mike Post”
Mike, it’s really too bad you can’t read, or are not curious enough to read the whole quote. Please tell me where Harry Reid, in this quoted statement:
“As long as we follow the President’s path in Iraq, the war is lost”
is saying that the war is already lost? Actually, he should have said the occupation is lost because it has not been a war for a very long time. It seems to me if you read Reid’s quote correctly, he is implying that if we were to take a different course (like finding a diplomatic solution), we might be able to win this occupation.
So, Mike, before you spout your loud mouth off, make sure you have your facts in order.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmit’s all in the phrasing. Harry should have said — “The war, if we continue with Bush’s ’strategy’, is lost.” This way, there is no soundbite by chopping off the first phrase.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:20 pmThe dominant narrative is that Gonzales is a bumbling idiot who should resign, so the right wing (Broder is obviously in that camp with no pretense of objectivity) has to say the same. It fits their meme: the liberal media is biased because they’re not even bothering to focus on the ‘other bumbling’ idiot, Reid. So now, the media are pushed to “be balanced” and to focus on calls for Reid to resign, which come from inside the media; from Kristol and Broder. I’d be angry at Broder for being such a waist of skin, except that the evidence says that this crap works. And now I won’t be surprised if the media start focusing on Harry Reid due to Kristol and Broder’s baseless calls for him to resign.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 pm#66..Can-O, I am liking your post’s better every day….Keep up the good work….Hey, and I love your humor..No kidding…Blessings
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:23 pmFor all the criticism you Dems have of the President and the war effort, the only solution I hear you proposing is to have the troops come home. I’d like them home, too. But given realistic choices of fighting the Islamofacists on their turf or have suitcase nukes, dirty bombs, car bombs, bio-terrorism, chemical attacks and suicide bombers facing my children and/or grandchildren, I still say “Finish the Job…”
Nobody wants war. That is not the question. The only real question up for debate at this point has to do with the choice of battlefield. If you do not want to fight them there, then get prepared to fight them here. Oh, and by the way, you should also prepare for the battle here to be in civilian population centers, not just military bases.
Some of you do not seem to understand the Islamic concept of “Infidels,” and the way Islamic radicals treat those who refuse to endorse their particular branch of Islam. With them it is either convert to Islam, keep Islamic law or die.
Terrorism is not going away without a fight. We just need to decide on the location of the battlefield.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:24 pmBroder is so out of it, I am embarrassed for him.
I miss the REAL WaPo — the one not taken over by neocons.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:25 pmBroder spelled backwards is red orb
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:27 pmBroder spelled backwards is red orb
Comment by Patrick0
LOL!!
priceless…
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:30 pmI’m taken by a nice sweet ex-christian :)
But we can be friends and kick idiots asses together! :)
Comment by Can-O-Whoop-Ass
Deal.
Unrequited love is so painful….. *sniff* :D
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:31 pm“Terrorism is not going away without a fight. We just need to decide on the location of the battlefield.
Comment by IDidntDoIt — April 23, 2007 @ 12:24 pm”
100% WRONG!!!!
Terroism is NOT going away PERIOD!!! It has been around as long as man has!
The only way to defeat terroism is to TALK with people and try to work something out.
War is not the answer, and never will be against an IDIOLOGY!!!
Why do you Republicans have such a MIND BLOCK for 5th grader common sense?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:31 pmRoger_Roger, why do the Dems need a plan for Iraq in order to speak up? What is your causal reasoning? The Democrats acknowledge that the war is illegal, immoral and lost. Leave is the answer. Do they need to plan the leaving for Bush?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:35 pmTo #84: Alright, IDidntDoIt, neither the fuck did I. You want to fight them over there so they don’t fight us over here. Fine. But let’s fight INTELLIGENTLY. Let’s fight were the PROBLEMS ARE, not where we’d like them to be. Let’s fight our REAL ENEMIES, say the Sauds who’s partical branch of Islam is churning out the terrorists you so want to destroy. Oh, but we can’t do that, cuz we’re tied to their tit and the current administration is overflowing with their money. Don’t fucking tell me that Iraq is the proper place for this to be taking place. No, sir, this was just to be the mind candy to keep the base warm. Now everyone realizes that no one was watching the pot boil, figuring out what the hell we’d be eating or asking any questions to see if some other idiot Bushie happened to be doing so. Get the troops out of Iraq. Figure out what the fuck we’re doing. And get on with getting on. This 6 y ears of BS has grown quite tiring. AND IT IS YOUR FAULT!
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:35 pmI have never seen Broder as a Wise Man of Washington, so I’ view his remarks as more of the same old, same old. Or as many here at TP would say, “same s**t, different day.” And Broder is the “same ‘ho, different corner.”
What a wanker.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 pmto the author of post #84:
That old line about what muslims want to do “infidels” is tired. “Muslims” are not monolithic, and that line is particulalrly useless in connection with Iraq because they have a multi-ethnic society. They inter-marry without killing their in-laws. And please, didn’t you ever ask yourself where the word “infidel” comes from? It’s spanish for the “unfaithful.” Now, where or why would Muslims use a Spanish word for unfaithful? http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 pmComment by IDidntDoIt — April 23, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
I read your comment right up to the word “Islamofascists”.
Your use of this idiotic and repeatedly debunked pejorative term illustrates graphically that you need not be taken seriously.
Thanks for putting “Islamofascists” so near the beginning of your comment…it was a real time saver.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:36 pmMike Post: “Reid’s view that we have already lost is not shared by Kissinger…”
How perfectly ironic. We all now know that Kissinger felt the war in Viet Nam was lost years before we left, but counseled Nixon to never say the war was lost; to publically proclaim that we still could win.
Now, 29 years later, Mike Post takes Kissinger’s public words at face value and reminds us that Kissinger doesn’t think we’ve lost this war.
When will we ever learn?
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:38 pmhey smafdy-i think we’ve all had it up to here with forceful and aggressive, implementing the laws that already exist to remove and punish the forceful and aggressive- and illegal will serve us all better- dont lets keep going down that road, there’s more than one way to skin a rat
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 pmIDidntDoIt: “Nobody wants war. That is not the question.”
Sorry, Charlie. The overwhelming evidence we now have indicates that Bush did, indeed want war.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:40 pmBefore bush&co took us into George Orwell’s 1984 world it would have already have been acknowledged that we “won the war” - we shockandawed our way to Baghdad, we did the “regime change” thing, and we held elections (they now have “democracy”). So, it’s over - time to go home. What’s going on now is the occupation, which we were never told was a part of the objective. Congress never voted to support an occupation, and they shouldn’t continue to fund it. There is a civil war going on there now - how are we going to “win” that? Whose side are we on? It things were reversed, and some other country whom we had never harmed attacked, defeated, and occupied our country, those fighting against the occupying forces (whom we now call “insurgents”) would be considered PATRIOTS!!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:44 pm#84
So…by extension of your logic here, the only thing keeping terrorists at bay is by refereeing ethnic cleansing? Last I checked NONE, as in ZERO of the 9-11 hijackers were Iraqi. Neither was Richard Reid, neither was Timothy McVeigh for that matter.
The only thing we are accomplishing at this point is getting our soldiers killed and planting seeds of anti-American, terrorist feelings in a NEW generation of jihadists in Iraq and the Muslim world as a whole.
Your argument here has no basis in reality. The “battles” you speak of coming to our population centers are not being prevented because we have a military operation underway in Iraq.
Get a clue. Or better yet, enlist and go make sure none of those terrorists stage a massive land assault on America.
April 23rd, 2007 at 12:49 pm#41 Reid TELLS THE TRUTH. He SUPPORTS the troops, and wants them OUT.
What is BUSH’S plan for “victory”?? A “surge”?
He didn’t say the TROOPS have failed.
He said Bush’s ILLEGAL WAR was a failure, and that DIPLOMATIC SOLUTIONS are the KEY.
Also, Bush LOVED how Gonzo answered “as honestly as he CAN”.
NOT “the TRUTH, WHOLE TRUTH, NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH”, which USED to be the USA standard.
You Rush-liar-followers are HILARIOUS!!!
See you in hell roger-roger (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:05 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
Broder’s e-mail address at the WashPo:
davidbroder@washpost.com
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:06 pmOh, please Harry Reid is correct. Bush and his henchmen have been engaged in war crimes the minute they invaded Iraq. Lets hope the Democrats, although I doubt it, will not allow the same error to happen with an Iran invasion. The sooner everyone admits that the Iraq invasion was an error of the utmost proportions and immediately withdraw US troops, the better off the world will be. The longer Bush prolongs this disaster the great will he be creating terrorism against the US, and I do not blame those who hate this administration and want to bring it to its knees. If my family, friends and property had been harmed or destroyed by Bush’s soldiers, I would never stop wanting revenge.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:25 pmBUT, I thught Bush is the “bumbling embarassment!”. Get it straight…
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:26 pm“Bumbling performance” is something the Bush administration has performed admirably.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmTerrorism is not going away without a fight. We just need to decide on the location of the battlefield.
Comment by IDidntDoIt — April 23, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
Is this an old 24 episode?
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:43 pmO Lord, how tired I am of all the rhetoric. I am a registered republican, and voted for “W” the FIRST TIME. Where is it written that our labels– Rep, Dem, Lib, Con, Indy, etc. means that we must forego any and all common sense? Anyone who does not see and admit the damages that this administrtion has done to this country is either stupid, criminal or both. Wake-up people, stop blindly following an allegance to a party as many people did in Germany years ago.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:45 pmComment by IDidntDoIt — April 23, 2007 @ 12:24 pm
Enlisted lately, shit for brains? They need morons over there.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pmThe most frequent “outside” advice concerning the U.S.’s preemptive intervention in Iraq that the Bush administration is getting is from Henry Kissinger, the guy who put American soldiers into the meatgrinder in Vietnam. Kissinger is a traitor to his country.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:51 pmReid spoke the truth, plain and simple. This is so unusual
in today’s political climate that it has provoked a firestorm
of criticism.
Harry Reid is a brave man. All praise to him.
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:54 pmSince when does Broder speak for the Democrats when he says Democrats wish Reid would keep quiet?
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmDemocrats in the country are cheering for Reid, the soft-spoken man, who tells the truth.
Actually, across the country, most American believe, as Reid does, that this war is hopeless. We are involved in the middle of something we cannot resolve; we can only lose more lives.
There will be mayhem and chaos when we leave - there is mayhem and chaos now.
Doesn’t anyone think that the leaders of countries in the region will step forward after we leave? With mayhem and chaos next door, it would behoove them to mediate.
We should leave, and give them a chance - as it stands now, we stay, we lost more Americans, we resolve nothing in Iraq, we create more hatred for us and our presence there.
(BTW, building a wall will surely not go very far in promoting cooperation - a necessary factor in any lasting settlement.)
It’s amazing how badly this war in Iraq has gone for Bush, and how often his administration has been wrong, that anyone would buy any argurment they make. This idea of staying in Iraq to help fight future terrorism is so flawed. It’s creating new potential terrorists by the day. How is it that some of you here actually buy anything Bush says?? Seriously, are you just hoping he’ll eventually be right? Because he has the odds in his favor? I mean nobody can be so wrong as often as this Bush administration has, can it?
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:58 pmThis is for mike Post, the troll:
April 23rd, 2007 at 1:59 pmAP 4/1/07
Kissinger says military vistory no longer possible.
http://www.iht.com/ articles/ ap/ 2007/ 04/ 01/ asia/ AS-GEN-Japan-Iraq-Kissinger.php
Comment by Repo-whores-suk
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:07 pmseems to forget that we were attacked and 3000 people were killed in New York. Its not Bush losing the war, it’s traitors like Reid and Pelosi undermining our soldiers. They need to be thanking those soldiers for dieing and giving them the right to say the stupid things they do.
When does Broder apologize for his embarressment in supporting this disaster?
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:08 pmBy Bush’s own definition, the War is Over. It’s the Reconstruction that’s failed. And what Reid was trying to get across to the Decider was the we won the war, but we lost the peace.
Saddam is gone. Kaput. And when the US Army starts builing Berlin-like walls in downtown Baghdad over the wishes of the Prime Minister, you know the military planners haven’t got a clue what’s going on. I mean, East Germany was trying to prevent people escaping a system that was broken.
What is the point of hanging around when you’re not wanted? Unless the real goal was occupation all along and this nonsense about Freedom & Democracy was just a smokescreen.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pmThank you, Cal Darnage. It’s amazing how wonderful newspapers can be for settling disagreements over black-and-white facts–like that Kissinger DID say military victory in Iraq is impossible.
In fact, newspapers are great sources for all sorts of facts. Mike Post should pick one up sometime.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:11 pm#90 If “leave” is the answer, they certainly need to explain to the Iraqi people how us leaving will net them the Democracy, Freedom, and decrease in violence they deserve. If leaving doesn’t net those 3 things, leaving is not the answer. I am not looking for a debate, I am looking for an answer for the Iraqi people. In my mind, leaving will not create a democracy nor will it allow for freedom. If us leaving doesn’t provide that, then leaving is the wrong answer. Of course, you could always go with the heartless route. Maybe this crowd doesn’t care about fixing something we broke. Maybe you don’t care about the future of Iraq and its people. If you don’t care, then yes, leaving is the correct answer indeed.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:13 pm#122, what if staying will not get thsoe three things? Then what is yoru answer? TO me the answer is obvious, if staying will not get them security etc… and leaving will not either, then I am all for leaving as tleaving at elast pulls our guys out of the meat grinder.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:19 pm#118 charles
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:21 pmWhat does 9/11 have to do with the war in Iraq?
There is/was no connection - or haven’t you heard?
Broder is the bumbler…
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:23 pmIf we had continued to pursue those who masterminded the 9/11 tragedy, we might not be in the abyss we are today. Instead, Bush abandoned that pursuit - outsourced it, in fact - and instead went off into Iraq under false pretenses, taking full advantage of the shocked and confused state of mind of the general public.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:26 pmTime to give up the propaganda channels you obviously watch on your television - do a little research.
I was once a soldier many years ago. I can say in all honesty that the only time the words of politicians hurt me or my fellow troops was when they cut funding because they felt that soldiers were not important at the time. What kills me is how anytime someone speaks about iraq they are talking about the soldiers. We are not idiots we do know the difference between policy and our efforts. The only thing that is wrong with reid’s words is they are four years to late
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:41 pmWow. Broder is really falling apart. I wonder if dementia is involved.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:44 pmThe problem with Iraq is two-fold. The insurgents are like cockroached breading in the baseboards. You can defog one room but they come back from another. American foreign policy in the region has made Bush a poster child for recuitment of extreamists. They will just keep coming.
The country itself has a long history of civil strife between factions and they are not going to come together.
I am sad to say, the Bush policy in Iraq has destabalized it beyond anyone’s wildest dreams. But to the point of Reid’s comments, he is right. These two very seperate issues are not likely to resolve themselves anytime soon.
The only question left is do we want to occupy Iraq indefinately or begin to bring the troops home. We don’t have the manpower or the money (now $419+ billion) to continue this disasterous incursion without end. This is clearly a case of winning the battle and losing the war. It is time to get one with things.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:54 pmHow can America “win” a war without knowing what signs are present when we win. Does winning mean that we “occupy” and fight in a land where we are not wanted. The latest poll shows a clear majority of Iraqi’s want us out. Millions of affluent Iraqi’s have left the country. Bush and Cheney Corporations are getting “filthy” rich. Tens of billions are not accounted. There is no plan beyond add troups and stay the course. Meanwhile our military is broken, our world prestige has dwindled to insignificance. Our attorney general is a laughing stock with his 72 “I don’t recall.” Reid actually spoke up and said that if we follow Bush’s plan, we have lost. The truth if I have ever read it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 2:57 pmed u cates
What’s embarrassing about Reid’s comment is that the whole idea that Iraq is a “war” that can be “lost” is false to start with. Talking about either winning or losing just plays into W’s hands. Believe it or not, those 30-40% of voters who still support Bush mostly believe we are in pitched battle with al Qaeda in Iraq. Talking about either winning or losing just helps them sustain their delusion. The fact that there is nothing available to be won there has to be made more clearly. Saying we “lost” confuses that critical effort.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmHarry Reid HAS admitted that his mother worked in SEVERAL whore houses, not just one. I suspect that he doesn’t know who his real father was, and judging by the tenor in his voice, was probably the product of sex between two women. He looks more fitting at a quilt social than the Senate.
Reid and Pelosi will kill the Dems chances to take the presidency yet - just watch.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pm#1
Get your head out of the sand Bushie. The majority of the people want us out of Iraq. 28% doesn’t a majority make. And the majority doesn’t want us out of Iraq because they don’t think we’ve lost the war. It was lost from the start.
Bushies will say anything without fact checking first.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe best line in this article is “It doesn’t matter whether what Harry Reid said was actually true or false, but whether it was impolitic.” NOT!!!! The truth matters and it need to be repeated, frequently and loudly. If people had known the truth before invading Iraq the invasion would never have happened, tens (or hundreds) of thousands of dead people would be alive, Iran wouldn’t have been strengthened, al Qaeda wouldn’t have been strengthened, and we’d be hundreds of billions of dollars less in debt.
Tell the truth, often and loudly.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmBush’s mother admitted that she IS a WHOREHOUSE, built to look like George Washington.
Bush and the entire family are TRAITORS to the USA, who will burn in hell for their WAR CRIMES, THIEVERY and LIES to the America public and world.
The REAL fact is that Bush and Cheney REFUSED TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH TO THE 9/11 Commission.
That is, they REFUSED TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens, and Saudi TERRORIST financiers.
And THAT tells us ALL WE NEED TO KNOW about these TRAITORS.
See YOU in hell jason (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
If they would let the silent majority lead instead of the loud mouth ,weak lilly livered cowards that DON’T want a victory in Iraq.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmWhat would they have done in our battle for independence in 1776,
civil war or would war two.They have all ready showed us what they can do in Korea and Vietnam.The democratic self serving politican in
Washington should be work on a way to fix social security by putting
themselfs on the same program the taxpayer are on.I am not a republican or democrat. I am an AMERICAN.
I am an American, too, Bob F.
Bush and Cheney are TRAITORS to the USA, and deserve to be tried, convicted, and EXECUTED by a US Army firing squad for WAR CRIMES,
which include the deaths of 3200 US soldies, 650,000 Iraqis.
And Bin Laden, the mastermind of 9/11, Bush’s old BUSINESS PARTNER,
is STILL FREE.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmThe bumbling embarrassment, Mr. Broder, I think you’ll find every morning when you look in the mirror.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pmThis American Military family holds Reid with great respect and realizes he speaks truth.
Additionally, he has a record of really being for
the people not a do-nothing congressmen.
Further, I know I’m not alone as
other military families appreciate him speaking truth!
Unlike many others who wish to “hide” under white napkins seeking WMD brainwash techniques. Or who pretend to actually accomplish something, only to show more failures.
View the weekly events in the last 2 months inside of IRAQ. Results are more failures:
Attacks inside the “safe”green zone,
Attacks on troops living in the gated area,
Death and wounded rate through the roof tops,
Attacks more intense,
Members of the Iraq government killed,
Spread the killing outside of Baghdad and henceforth not all the dead is counted.
We the US military are being “exploited and abused” by these clowns “sitting” in the white house. Further, the ones “sitting” aren’t tending to the people’s business, they are ploting the next election cycle 24/7. And to hell with the people’s business.
Most citizens are wise to the games that the white house is playing with soldiers and their families.
Additionally, since this occupation first started most people realize that their own cost of living has gone to the moon. How is your gas
and the cost of your weekly food?
Wars equate to extreme inflation.
Why do you think gold has reached over 700.00 an ounce today compared with 282.72 on 3/01/2000?
The Cat
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmHarry Reid HAS admitted that his mother worked in SEVERAL whore houses, not just one. I suspect that he doesn’t know who his real father was, and judging by the tenor in his voice, was probably the product of sex between two women. He looks more fitting at a quilt social than the Senate.
Reid and Pelosi will kill the Dems chances to take the presidency yet - just watch.
Comment by Jason M. Hendler
You are a demented moron. Please get help.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pm“As a Democrat I wish more leaders would speak up like Harry Reid. And we don’t need neocon commentators to tell us what’s good for our party.”
Comment by Shane
I agree with you Shane 110%!! As a conservative I HOPE more losers…I mean leaders, join Harry “Surrender” Reid and make more insightful comments about the war. Shane, I am SO happy we could find a meeting of the minds!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:17 pmActually, I bet it’s Broder who has a small caucus. AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Whoo! Cracked myself up there… and it’s probably true.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pmI stand behind my comments about the silent majority being behind
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:21 pmPRESIDENT BUSH who does not let manitulated polls have a bearing
on his decisions.I don’t know why you liberals are getting on Broder
for when the entire media think that Ried is just a hairs breath away from treason not the president. You people have got to get over Gore in 04.
#137 - Mr. B - So your fellow bloggers and blogettes don’t conclude you are drinking on the job, I have a suggestion. Look up the word traitor. To assist you, here is the definition of treason from Dictionary.com:
1. a crime that undermines the offender’s government
2. disloyalty by virtue of subversive behavior
3. an act of deliberate betrayal [syn: treachery]
Harry “Surrender” aids and assists our enemy with his carelessly strewn opinions. Pssst…Harry, “Loose lips still sink Ships”…
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pm143 - Bob - Excellent suggestion to the opposition to “get over Gore”!! The problem is - they can’t and won’t…. Such a morphing is tantamount to Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton ACTUALLY wanting and achieving racial harmony. What would those guys do with no microphones to hunt down, no banners to carry, no funds to raise and spend??
It is interesting to note the Left is comprised of loose organizations with overlapping interests. Personally, I find many of these posters VERY amusing!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pmIf anyone is a “bumbling embarrassment” it’s Mr. Broder. He is a disgrace to his profession.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:48 pmBob F.–
Bush and Cheney HAVE committed TREASON and ARE TRAITORS TO THE USA.
Tell us—WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE to SWEAR TO GOD UNDER OATH TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE 9/11 Commission???
Yup, TREASON, that’s WHY.
And Bin Laden is STILL FREE 5 1/2 years later…
Harry Reid is a PATRIOTIC American who speaks the TRUTH.
See you in hell Bob F. (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:51 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
This discussion could have easily taken place in the late 60’s. Nixon and Kissinger knew full well that there was really no way to “win” in Viet Nam, but for political purposes, encouraged fellow repubs and conservative dems to call any talk of a pull out “surrender.” We all know that this happened. It’s on tapes. It’s in released transcripts. Now, conservatives are working from exactly the same playbook as Nixon, but with the support and cooperation of a compromised corporate media. Broder is so out of touch with most Americans that it’s pathetic. Remember, Broder and his fellow over-paid and pampered Washington news elite called Al Gore “crazy” and “unhinged” when he had the temerity to suggest that invading Iraq was a mistake.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:55 pmBob F., for your “silent majority” theory to hold water, one would have to believe that people who support Bush consistently fail to answer questions when polled. All polling data indicates that the more conservative a person is, the MORE likely they are to answer a poll, so you’re on shaky ground here. It may be time for you to simply accept the fact that most Americans do not approve of Bush.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:58 pmSenator Harry Reid is to Marshall Pétain as the Democratic Party is to the Vichy Regime.
I would like to interpolate this analogy into the blogosphere to stimulate a discussion of its historical relevancy to the Senator’s recent political statements and others who make similar pronouncements.
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:06 pmSenator Harry Reid is to Marshall Pétain as the Democratic Party is to the Vichy Regime.
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmI would like to interpolate this analogy into the blogosphere to stimulate a discussion of its historical relevancy to the Senator’s recent political statements and others who make similar pronouncements.
No. 24 Comment by Sinfonian — April 23, 2007 @ 11:40 am
You prognosticated:
“I predict it won’t be long until some high-level person (media or government) explicitly alleges that the preznit is mentally ill.”
This has already been done by a group of therapists headed by a psychiatrist who studied Bush in depth. This was back in 2003. The book is “Bush on the Couch” by Justin A. Frank.
If you want to truly understand the man who fronts for the neo-con cabal this book is a must read! It explains Bush exactly as we have come to see him. Insightful reading!
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:49 pmI have got to get back to silkscreening more liberial T shirts with stupid saying on them . I tryed to do some conservative one but they didn’t sell they were to intelligent.
April 23rd, 2007 at 5:54 pmSenator Harry Reid is to Marshall Pétain as the Democratic Party is to the Vichy Regime. Capitulators never prosper!
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:10 pmGood Afternoon, Valient, sweetie,
I’ve been wondering, do you trolls work out of “boiler rooms” like salesmen do. Do you all get a manual of right wing talking points to refer to and maybe a history book written for troll use which twists history around to suit your purpose? Does your supervisor hang over your shoulder to guage content and results? Like how many “libs” you sucked in today?
Do you get paid a commission? How do you get paid anyway? Commission really doesn’t make sense.
I’m thinking about writing a book about successful trolls. Do you know any. Maybe you could put me in touch with the head troll watcher. That would be a boon!
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:13 pmAnxiously waiting for reply…
Ynaem Newo spelled backwards is Owen Meany. Now aren’t you a clever little troll?
Hey do you and Venus work in the same boiler room?
Maybe I will put you in the book I’m going to write about successful trolls. Are you up for an interview? Pro Bono of course. But just think of the great publicity you would get!
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:18 pmDavid Broder worships Richard Perle and the other PNAC Platoon members and always will. He’s utterly worthless.
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:29 pmYou know Mr. Reid is really not all that politically astute. And his remarks are troubling. However they are not false. “The war”….the military mission in Iraq, toppled Saddam Hussein……the war was won….not lost. But “the mission” is all but lost. Due to the arrogance and greed of the Bush administration. Policing Iraq and attempting nation building in the face of stiff oppositon….is an utter failure. A disaster ……and just as GBW’s father’s team told him, going into Bagdad is not going to work. Occupation is almost impossible. Bring home the troups before their victory is squandered.
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:36 pmDavid Broder should be more worried about all the embarrassing things he’s said lately, e.g., President Bush rebounding in the polls, for one. His criticism of Senator Reid is merely a case of the pot calling the kettle black. To my mind, Broder has lost all credibility as a journalist. He is now nothing more than a simple-minded, predictable hack for the current administration…
April 23rd, 2007 at 6:43 pmSo, how would you describe the look on Broder’s face?
April 23rd, 2007 at 7:00 pmI am getting sick and tired of the lame excuse you ignorant people and I won’t just say liberals saying that PRESIDENT Bush used go into Iraq . If I’m not mistaken both the House and Senate voted 100% except the looney from Wisconsin. They saw the very same infomation
April 23rd, 2007 at 8:37 pmthe President did .The problem is when the lying news media started to make up story all your self serving politican tried to cover their butts. They are all poll driven. Had all of the politican stayed behind the effort the war would been over along time.The truth be told there isn’t a liberal in washington that want the war to be won. I gues i would say any where else also.
Finally, a democrat has the stones to tell it like it is.
Has any flamethrowing, foamy mouthed, blathermeister from the right offered an argument as to why the war is not lost?
What say you Herr Broder?
April 23rd, 2007 at 8:46 pmBob F. -
Your “silent majority” is positively mute! Has it escaped your attention that nearly 2/3rds of Americans believe that Bush is doing a poor job and disagree wit his conduct of the war? Do you even know what a majority is, or did you lift the phrase “silent majority” from your John Birch primer? I can see why you think Bush is a genius…