At this afternoon’s White House press conference, spokeswoman Dana Perino launched into a snippy tirade against Sheryl Crow and Laurie David for approaching Karl Rove on Saturday night to discuss the administration’s environmental policies.
“I think it’s unfortunate that people who have an impassioned view about a topic don’t take the time to afford the President the same respect that they are asking for. The President’s record on climate change is very strong,” Perino said. “I don’t know know why they can’t take yes for an answer.” She added, “I wish they would channel some of that Hollywood energy into something constructive rather than baseless finger-pointing.” Watch it:
First of all, in response to affording the President respect, the last time we checked Karl Rove is not the President.
Second, Sheryl Crow and Laurie David did nothing disrespectful towards Rove during the dinner. As David explains, “We asked Mr. Rove if he would consider taking a fresh look at the science of global warming. Much to our dismay, he immediately got combative.” To the extent disrespect was shown, it was exhibited in Rove’s comment that “I don’t work for you, I work for the American people.”
Third, Bush and Cheney’s record on climate change is far from “strong.” They refuse to take the basic step of acknowledging the science that humans are a major contributor to global warming. Moreover, they have reneged on their electoral promise to curb carbon dioxide emissions.
UPDATE: The Washington Times’ offers a profile of Perino:
Mrs. Perino’s work on environmental issues is a passion, fueled by her upbringing in Evanston, Wyo. Growing up, she often helped her grandfather with his annual cattle drive in Newcastle. “She’s a conservationist conservative, with some real solid Western roots,” Mr. Connaughton said. “I’m a strong environmentalist,” said Mrs. Perino, who called the White House’s approach to climate change “a model for the world.”
Transcript:
QUESTION: Can I ask you — there’s been a lot of chatter over the last couple days about this confrontation that Karl Rove allegedly had with a couple of celebrities about global warming, climate change. What was Karl Rove’s reaction to being confronted at the dinner…
PERINO: I think Karl Rove just wanted to have some fun on Saturday night. And I think he wasn’t the only one. I think that it’s unfortunate that people who have an impassioned view about a topic don’t take the time and afford the president the same respect that they are asking for.
The president’s record on climate change is very strong. I do not understand why they can’t take yes for an answer. The president has acknowledged since the beginning of his term that climate change is real. He has a different approach of how to help solve the problems, but that doesn’t mean he hasn’t acted.
We have provided billions of dollars in terms of resources to develop the new technologies that are not only going to help solve that problem, but will also help lift people out of poverty from around the world because they need the clean energy that everyone else needs in order to help their economies grow.
QUESTION: But it was not until this last State of the Union that he mentioned climate change, right? So…
PERINO: Absolutely not.
QUESTION: (OFF-MIKE)
PERINO: In the State of the Union?
QUESTION: In the State of the Union.
PERINO: Well, in the State of the Union, but that doesn’t mean that people weren’t actively working on things. I could point you back to the 2003 State of the Union, in which he announced the FutureGen project, which is a zero-emissions coal-fired power plant which is currently underway in terms of its development and is a 10- year plan.
And what we would hope is that, once we get that technology, we’ll be able to transfer it to developing countries that are going to use coal like Mexico and South Africa and China — which, by the way, is building one power plant a week that uses coal.
PERINO: So we have big climate change challenges ahead of us. And I just wish that they would channel some of that Hollywood energy into something constructive, rather than baseless finger-pointing.
QUESTION: Did Rove leave early because he was angry, because of the…
PERINO: Rove left to get in a motorcade to go home. That’s what we all have to do (inaudible) to the motorcade. I had to stay behind.
Bow to your King!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:02 pmStarting to unravel a wee bit, Ms. Merino?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:03 pm(Intentional misspelling Exley, if you are watching…)
‘free-fallin, free-fallin’
they’re pathetic in their response to- well, everything.
Stick a fork in this Administration, they’re done.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:05 pmTranslation: We are so damn insecure that we will not tolerate anyone questioning or asking us to look at our actions. Free, open debate exposes our lack of knowledge and awareness of issues so we prefer to scream and yell about being disrespected.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pmgeorgie and his minions will get respect when they decide to show the american people respect. They have to remember that we do not work for them. They work for us. We pay their salaries, not the other way around.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmFirst of all, in response to affording the President respect, the last time we checked Karl Rove is not the President. - - A Rove by any other name would stink up the presidency.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmLike I want to respect anything Bush says or does. Respect is earned, not given because you’re in a certain position. Bush has done nothing to earn my respect.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pmMaybe saying PudeBoy Rover was the president wasn’t so far off, after all! She might have let the cat out of the bag.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmIs it time to take a page out of the trolls’ Cheap Debating Techniques For Dummies manual, and accuse the trolls of anti-semitism when they say anything negative about Laurie David?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmKarl just wanted to have fun! Because that is what it is all about. Rapping, and dancing, and joking with everyone.
But Bush needed to be serious because of the VT killings. Yes, 32 college folks is indeed sad…But in previous years Bush joked about finding WMD’s all while US troops were dying.
3,324 dead US troops won’t put Bush into a bad mood though.
-GSD
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:08 pmThank you Ms. Perino, for confirming that which vast numbers of us have been saying for six+ years now - we have a Howdy Doody as President, with Ol’ Turd Blossom playing the role of Buffalo Bob.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmShe needs to be declawed.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmFreudian Slip? We all know that Dick Cheney is the President and Karl Rove is the Vice President. She needs to get it straight.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmPoor Karl. Imagine, being confronted and actually touched by that awful bully Sheryl Crow!
What kind of world must he live in to think that that would be a bad thing?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmnext year the Correspondent’s Dinner should book somebody like Henny Youngman who is long dead and not bother to invite anybody.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:09 pmMerino will be talking a differnt tune when the money stops coming in for the GOP and their Candidates. Look for the big money to go else where and then Karl Rove will have time for Ms. Crow. Wait for Lance to stop his check and fund rasing events. George W. Bush is the King as nothing is being done to stop this madness. Bush is also the Dictator of Iraq and Maliki just follows his orders. Bush only wants the money Congress is holding back. Cheney is busy packing up his things and moving his money to off shore accounts. Rove is up to his neck in every scandal that has come out so far. When the big money stops Bush/Rove will be on the phone and give a press report on how they apologized to Ms. Crow.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmKarl Rove. The president?
Hah-hah-ha-ha-ha-heh-heh-heeeee… sigh.
It gets less funny the more I think about it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pmSaying that the Bush administration’s record on climate change is very strong is like saying Wile E. Coyote’s record of catching the Roadrunner is very strong.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pm“Second, Sheryl Crow and Laurie David did nothing disrespectful towards Rove during the dinner.”
And, of course, Faiz knows this because he was there….Oh, wait…He wasn’t? Never mind.
“Some witnesses said David was very aggressive with Rove”
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 04/ 22/ AR2007042200353.html
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:12 pmOooooo!
We’re gonna have a popularity smack-down contest between Sheryl Crow and Preznit Bush! It’s sounds like Dana’s afraid of who’s gonna win. Not to quote an idiot, but “BRING IT ON!”
We all know that most of Bush’s “different approach” is to funnel money to big oil so they can broadcast a bunch of hooey propaganda about how Gore is a loony-toon and Global Warming is a hoax.
We now see what happens when this administration loses control of the media - they fly off the deep end.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm“I think Karl Rove just wanted to have some fun on Saturday night. And I think he wasn’t the only one.”
What an ironic choice of words.
Can you picture Karl singing,
“All I wanna do is have some fun. And I’ve a feeling I’m not the only one…”
Maybe he could do a little dance too.
Then again, maybe not.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pmRespect??? For Chimpy???
Under normal circumstances, the President is the guy we (the people) choose to do a job…and it’s only a temp job, at that.
In Chimpy’s case, there is clear evidence that this selection process was compromised in both of his elections…so he’s not even the guy we chose.
This jackass has spent his entire presidential career dismantling this nation, stripping us of our freedoms, and making us the laughingstock of the entire planet.
Anyone who demands that we show
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pmfealtyrespect for this drugged-up little chimp with delusions of adequacy deserves exactly the same amount of respect Chimpy himself respects. The ecxact amount I’m referring to, I’ll leave as an exercise for the reader.Yep, them there cat-tell-min shur no how ta raise up a fine inviro-mintellist.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe League of Conservation Voters gave President Bush a grade of “F” for his environmental policies. “Very strong record” my a$$. Of course, Bush is used to seeing F’s on his report cards.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmAhhhh, a Cheney Crony. That explains it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:16 pmRove is the PRESIDENT.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:17 pmWhen Perino said Rove went to the motorcade to go home and that’s what they “all had to do,” does that mean that these people get Secret Service protection? Or is some firm like Blackwater being paid (with taxpayer money) to provide security for Bush people?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:18 pm“Some witnesses said David was very aggressive with Roveâ€
Washington Post
Oh, my an aggressive woman…how scary! And how dare she not know to stay in her place and respect men because they are men???? Poor Rive, such a victim!
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:19 pmI hear desperation in Ms. Perino response and Rove’s actions towards Sheryl. Though still consciously still in denial, they are starting to see glimmers that their house of cards is falling down around them. Finally…
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmgeez louise.
Can’t this administration take a little criticism? Can’t they debate without Swiftboating? What’s wrong with addressing current problems without getting defensive?
(trolls, these are rhetorical questions, there is no need to address each one, aka Jake/Dan/Alfred)
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmSome witnesses said David was very aggressive with Roveâ€
Washington Post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ content/ article/ 2007/ 04/ 22/ AR2007042200353.html
Comment by Exley
Yes, asking our employees a question has now become ‘aggressive’. Yeah, that’s right - NOT!
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmExlax misses the point again…
Crow and David’s behavior are not the point.. Karl Rove is not the state and neither is Chimpy - which is the prerogative Perino claims today. Rove is a political adviser and is therefore ‘fair game’ (thanks for that KKKarl).
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pmSo, according to Ann’s view a woman can never be rude and a man can never take offense when a woman acts rudely.
Hmmmm…How 19th century of Ann.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmSo Dana IS another Cheney plant in the White House; beginning to make more sense now. Obviously a good country girl from that land of cowboys and open plains; oh wait, that Newcastle part of Wyoming is coal country ain’t it. Massive wholesale destruction of the environment where the only that that drives now are coal trucks and trains. And Evanston is perhaps one of the ugliest damn towns in which to get off the Interstate; only slightly more hospitable (less violent) than Green River and Rawlins, and the center of huge tracts of natural gas exploration and further planetary destruction. If she is a conservative conservationist, she is the direct heir of James Watt: wise use means use it up and throw the rest away.
I am still stuck with just what sort of people those real American’s are, that pResident Karl speaks for and to????
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pmHow many times, on a variety of issues, have Bush and the other members of the Bush regime told us the American People who they claim to work for to “go screw,” because they were going to do exactly what they wanted to do no matter what the American People had made clear they wanted. I’ll show Bush and company respect when we who pay their salaries get it from them. In the meantime, “here the same back to you.”
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:24 pmRESPECT for “president” Bush.
How about RESPECT FOR THE RULE OF LAW.
emails DELIVERED to the Congress, and not WITHHELD.
Staff testifying UNDER OATH about WHY the US DOJ has been politicized.
Since this WON’T happen voluntarily by the BushTraitors (TM),
I have NO RESPECT for EVIL WAR CRIMINALS like Bush and Cheney.
P.S. Dana, “go fvck yourself”. Another BushTraitor (TM).
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:24 pm“The President’s record on climate change is very strong…â€
Yes, very strongly against acknowledging it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 pm“Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 3:12 pm”
You call this STONG evidence????
“Some witnesses said David was very aggressive with Rove; a shaken Crow later said that Rove was “combative and unresponsive.”
I have “some witness” that says they saw a Jesus the other day too… Does that mean that my witness is as strong as the POPE saying he saw jesus the other day?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:25 pmNice try, Triple-T, but your attempt at diversion falls flat…as usual.
The point is that TP disingenuously tried to present a one-sided view of the encounter (quoting only David herself) without reference to any other witnesses’ opinion on how the event unfolded. As I have show, David’s self-serving “I am a victim” whine is disputed by others who were there (whereas Faiz was not there).
Try again.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pm“So, according to Ann’s view a woman can never be rude and a man can never take offense when a woman acts rudely.”
Not at all what I said and you know it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:27 pm“The President’s record on climate change is very strong”???
Okay, Dana, I admit it, I was struck by how pretty you are, but your stupid statements are beginning to pile up now. It’s not your fault; look at where you work. It’s pretty much inevitable that you’ll wind up having to defend the indefensible or deny the undeniable.
But we’re through, Dana. Pretty doesn’t cut it anymore. I don’t have a problem with being attracted to a Republican, but I do demand honesty from my fantasy crushes. …Although, now that I think about it, that comes pretty close to disqualifying all Republicans, doesn’t it?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmNow, where is the he-man woman-haters’ club on this thread? I guess they’re still back harping on Sheryl Crow and her audacity to dare to touch King Karl.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:28 pmOh come on Exley, you fu*king people make me sick. You always talk about how tough you are. Take the VT slayings. Some of your pundits have called people cowards for not jumping in front of a gun and then you get all offended when you get asked a question you don’t like.
PU$$Y.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pm“…she often helped her grandfather with his annual cattle drive in Newcastle.”
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:30 pmShe must have spent way too much time on that saddle horn.
So, according to Ann’s view a woman can never be rude and a man can never take offense when a woman acts rudely.
Hmmmm…How 19th century of Ann.
Comment by Exley
You must have pulled two or three muscles with that stretch, Exley.
**eyes rolling**
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmFirst of all, in response to affording the President respect, the last time we checked Karl Rove is not the President.
Press Corps: “Um, Ms. Perino, but Karl Rove is not the president!”
Perino: “That’s where you’re wrong!”
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:31 pmSomeone should bend her over a desk and spank her ass for being such a rubbernecked idiot.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pm“Some witnesses said” Oooh. It’s that old “some people said” argument that the right likes to use to bolter their positions. Problem is, when push comes to shove, they can’t seem to find those people who said.
I say good on you to Crow and David. I wish that more people would confront Rove and his minions. Just like I loved it when Jim Webb did his smack down of the POTUS. Remember how many Republics said “you have to respect him because he is the POTUS”. Well, I’ll respect him when he does something to deserve my respect. So far he’s batting a big zero!
I weep for what we have become.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmExley,
Your support for Crow or David acting “rudely” is pretty thin. Rove said they meant to be insulting, and “some witnesses” said David was aggressive. “Some witnesses”???? Not a hallmark of great reporting. They went to the well and all they could come up with was “some witnesses”???
Don’t you evaluate the quality of the sources you quote, or do you just search for anything which might be twisted to say what you want it to.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:32 pmOn this topic, I have to agree with the Libs. Global warming is unquestionably the biggest threat to America and the world. Bush is completely wrong with his inaction. We need to set massive reduction in our Co2 emissions right now. A minimum reduction should be 30% and we should shoot for more. Currently, we have no standing in the world to demand that the world’s biggest polluters stop. China will surpass the USA THIS YEAR in Co2 emissions. By 2008, China will be #1 and are scheduled to increase their emissions by a staggering 50% or more within the next 10 years. If the USA doesn’t get strong on Global warming right now, we stand no chance when we demand that China, India, and Russia clean up their act.
I hope it isn’t to late already, but it might be. Even if Europe and the USA cut emissions by 50% (Which we should do) it is meaningless unless we can get China and India to reduce their emissions. They are currently planning to increase their emissions which is insane. They are the biggest threat to the planet at this point and unfortunetly the USA is in no position to demand they stop and start reducing.
This is Bush’s largest failure by a mile.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:33 pm37. Excellent point Exley. We should have all who were there give there impression of what happened. Then, we should request if the initial question could be revisited by the White House. Then we can hear open debate on whether or not this administration should alter some of their stances on Global Warming. Maybe there are other solutions than what has bee presented so far.
Do you think a Rock n’ Roll star is going to just let the government push their opinion of the events without her responding? You haven’t read much history then.
This will only get bigger because Crow is not going to let the WH have the last word.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmBush officials often sound like brats in need of a good spanking.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmConfrontation is not Rove’s style. He’s more of a back-stabber.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pmKarl feels threatened by smart assertive women. Does that surprise anyone?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pmetiquette trolls unite!!
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:40 pm“Bow to your King!!
Comment by Zooey — April 23, 2007″
Trying to make some point?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pm#40,
Your attempt to make this trivial incident into some type of “Great Moments in Feminism” is not only comical but also has no basis in any type of fact.
None of us were there, but the only people not involved in the incident who have said anything about the incident so far appear to be saying that David (a noted climate science scholar…Oh, wait…She isn’t?) was overly aggressive in accosting Rove.
What we most likely have here are two celebrities (well, one celebrity and one person who was lucky enough to marry a celebrity) — used to being pampered on hand and foot by Hollywood and music industry toadies and possessing an overdeveloped sense of entitlement — who were shocked — SHOCKED — that someone did not automatically bow down to their great celebrity status and that reality check has bruised their egos.
The fact that TP has devoted three posts to the hurt feeling and bruised egos are Sheryl Crow and Laurie David is really quite an embarassment to this site.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:41 pmGreat post Roger_Roger, except this last statement. This last sentence would only be true if you ignore Iraq. But other than that, it is nice to see you come around on this one. We must lead, not follow. We need to have the moral high ground if we are going to tell India and China to clean up their act. This same argument applies to things like torture. We have to cease all activities relating to torture, if we expect other countries to not torture.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:42 pm“Free, open debate exposes our lack of knowledge and awareness of issues so we prefer to scream and yell about being disrespected.
Comment by SouthWest Bob — April 23, 2007″
What would a liberal know about a free open debate?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:42 pmMaybe Crow needs to spend some time with Bubble Boy & teach him to play guitar.
Wasn’t that what he was pretending to do while New Orleans drowned?
As for you, Ms. Perino, go back to Wyoming & rub elbows with them thar steers. Bullshit suits you much better than pantsuits.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmNot trying, it came across loud and clear.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmTrying to make some point?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:43 pmComment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
Still stalking, creepy dude?
#55…Exley, you are pathetic and every one of your posts reinforces that fact.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmProject much?
It is Rove who got his feelings hurt by some girls.
Ha, what a big blubbering pu$$y.
“Mommy, the girls at school made fun of me.”
“STFU Karl and eat your slop you little b!tch.”
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:44 pmwell - at least somebody in the white house admitted that bushie isn’t really the prez
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:45 pmThe fact that you can post your garbage here and not get banned, but we can’t post at redstate without having it deleted at getting banned speaks volumes for which side knows about free speech dumb a$$.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pm#47 Peter,
My point is not to prove conclusively that Crow and David acted rudely. It is to show that there is a dispute about how the incident unfolded and who may have been at fault but that TP disingenuously failed to mention that and simply made a conclusory statement that “Sheryl Crow and Laurie David did nothing disrespectful towards Rove during the dinner.” Well, that is very much in question, according to the Post. The only backing for TP’s assertion that David and Crow “did nothing disrespectful” is David herself.
Is that a “hallmark of great reporting” for you?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pmKKKarl wouldn’t have slapped Jeff Gannon/ Guckerts’ hand ( or, ………) away.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pm“I wish they would channel some of that Hollywood energy into something constructive rather than baseless finger-pointing.â€
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:46 pmI wish they would channel some of that Washington energy into something constructive rather than baseless swift-boating.
I predict that Dana Perino will run screaming and sobbing from the WH very soon…..it’s hard to believe that these are adults sometimes.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmAnd, I think that we SHOULD TREAT THE PRESIDENT AND HIS CRONIES WITH THE RESPECT THAT IS DUE THEM…..which is still hovering around 30%, if you believe the polls.
They’ve had plenty of years of the kind of “respect” they intimidated out of people, and now it is time for America and the world to see the
PERP MARCH. All of them, linked together like a daisy chain, being herded across the White House lawn to their waiting prison bus(es).
If only.
“Your attempt to make this trivial incident into some type of “Great Moments in Feminism†is not only comical but also has no basis in any type of fact.”
Good grief - where are you getting this? I was making reference to the woman-bashing tendency on this blog. Whenever there’s a post about a woman, men go crazy making rude,lewd and inappropriate comments. It’s like being in a high school locker room. Can’t you little boys just grow up?
As for Crow and David being pampered, I think you need to look a bit more closely at the cushy, pampered lifestyle of Karl Rove before you continue in this vein.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:47 pmYour attempt to make this trivial incident…
The fact that TP has devoted three posts to the hurt feeling and bruised egos are Sheryl Crow and Laurie David is really quite an embarassment to this site.
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 3:41 pm
trivial, you say? then the press secretary should ignore, correct? But she didn’t! so it’s trivial for you, and you only.
As for embarrasment. Really? Well, it’s all over the news. What’s embarassing is the Swift Boating Ms.Crow is taking right now.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmNo, we can’t have a meaningful debate, let’s just attack her character instead. Typical
#62
Um, Spudge, it was Crow and David who went crying to the press with their (now disputed) story about Rove been rude to them.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 pmWhat would a liberal know about a free open debate?
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:50 pmComment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 3:42 pm
so sayeth our resident, creepy stalker, who routinely, and undeniably, avoids debate at all costs.
” I was making reference to the woman-bashing tendency on this blog.”
I apparently misunderstood you. I thought you were saying that it was Rove who was claiming this sense of male-entitlement. I apologize. I missed your point.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:51 pmIf we are to take the word of Bush saying that Gonzo answered as honestly as he could why shouldn’t we take David’s word that they did nothing disrespectful?
Exley’s mistaken if he thinks this is just hurt feelings. The White House cared enough to discuss it in a Press Briefing. That’s not the place for idle chit chat and sports scores. It’s where the WH can deliver it’s message. This is just a response to their message.
Crow will most likely have a more encompassing response.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 pmSomeone should bend her over a desk and spank her ass for being such a rubbernecked idiot.
Comment by kasinca
I could get behind that!
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 pmI generally am on the political side of thinkprogress, but I think when you recontextualize or rearrange people’s words to make them more offensive, like you do in this headline and like you’ve done in the past, it makes me take TP less seriously and TP loses credibility in my estimation. If you’ve got a good quote, use it, if you don’t, don’t try to construct one.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:53 pm#70 DRxJ,
“then the press secretary should ignore, correct?”
Absolutely! I don’t know why she dignified this non-story with a response. Although she did treat it lightly initially by parodying the lyrics to one of Crow’s songs. The press corp (and TP) seemed to miss that entirely.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pmUm, Spudge, it was Crow and David who went crying to the press with their (now disputed) story about Rove been rude to them. Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 3:50 pm
Disputed by whom, ExLax? BHAHAA, you’re a st*pid, naive little boy…
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pmClinton did it, too. So did Pelosi.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:54 pm“Some witnesses said David was very aggressive with Roveâ€
Washington Post Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 3:12 pm
Which witnesses, Dick Cheney?
BAHAHA, st*pid child.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:55 pmRove’s version as quoted in the previous thread: “She came over to insult me and she succeeded.â€
Rove, the Bushmen’s Attack Dog, can dish it out from the dark corners under protection of executive privelege and other misuses of power, but he can’t take it in the light of day.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pm#37. Exley, you seem like a smart guy. Why do you constantly defend the powerful and privileged? You could use your powers for good.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pm“Clinton did it, too. So did Pelosi.”
Pelosi might be able to get away with using one square of toilet paper, but probably not Bill.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pmIt is interesting that this administration has lost any chance to be viewed as having any creditability and they keep doing it to themselves. The bottom line with neoconvicts is that they do not negotiate or use diplomacy to resolve differences. It’s my way or the hiway. . . and I get to determine the facts and you get to live with it. The cheney/rove world view dominates this WH and puppet boy george is only a figure head who thinks he’s entitled to avoid conflicts with his water carrying cheney/rove views.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:57 pmCheryl Crow calls for limit on toilet paper. What a loon.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/ 2/ hi/ entertainment/ 6583067.stm
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:58 pmAny intelligent man who is touched by Sheryl Crow knows that can lead to (gulp) PLEASURE! Of course, if you’re KKKarl Rove, the opposite reaction can mean that he’s never come close to even kissing a woman.
Of course, looking at KKKarl, he’s not musch worth for any woman to kiss.
April 23rd, 2007 at 3:59 pmOf course they would be willing to listen to their constituency, the problem was the lack of disrepect demonstrated by Ms. David and Ms. Crow…they didn’t make their donations to the RNC as required
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:00 pmThe press corp (and TP) seemed to miss that entirely.
Comment by Exley
But on ManCow, a right wing radio show, this morning, he wanted to discuss her A$$ wiping technique.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:00 pmsuddenly, it’s not trivial, it’s an attack, to derail the fact that there was a confrontation, to which Karl got pissy and pouted like a child!
Is that a “hallmark of great reporting†for you?
Comment by Exley
Well, “some people” seems to be convincing enough for you. That you take TP to task, using unsourced gossip as proof, is comedy gold. I seem to remember “unnamed sources” getting us stuck in Iraq aw well — and yet you still swallow “some people” sourcing, whole. Astounding.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pm” I thought you were saying that it was Rove who was claiming this sense of male-entitlement. ”
Karl does have a sense of entitlement, but it’s not just because he’s a male; it’s because he’s a pampered Washington insider.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pmProof?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:01 pmRove prefers to the touch of Jeff Gannon, obviously.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:02 pmAirhead Perino now “Pontificator Extraordinaire”….wonders never cease! Where does this neophyte get off telling a sophisticated intellect like Crowe ANYTHING?? Clearly, Perino is “losing it” and much quicker than Snowjob Tony did. Chalk it up to the foolishness of a youngster who only wishes and pretends to have a brain.
To suggest that because Emperor George has now become the “scientific expert” on global warming and to not foster or respect his idiotic global view on stewardship of the environment is tantamount to tomfoolery.
Does Dana really “get” that she’s making a total embarrassment of herself? I thinks she’s not even enlightened enough to realize that she’s a fool - unfortunately.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:03 pmExley, learn to spell, or at least use spellcheck. Embarrassment is spelled with two rs. Also, I think you’re projecting on the “how dare you not bow before my overinflated ego” thing. Even if Laurie David was rude, it doesn’t excuse Turd Blossom’s hostility and weird touchiness (Personally, I think Karl, like a lot of other closeted Republicans, finds women icky). Aren’t you wingnuts supposed to be the civility party? Karl wasn’t even acting like a grownup.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:03 pmAnd finally, declaring that no one can express an opinion on anything on which they’re not an expert is sad and unAmerican. And, which would actually help your side, it would keep George “W stands for Wasted!” Bush eternally mute.
No doubt, a woman’s touch is something alien to the Pillsbury Dough Boy….now if that were Gannon/Guckert, that’d be another story entirely.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:04 pmThis all doesn’t look good for Rove. Looks like he’s a pussy. Attacked by 2 women so he excludes them from being american citizens (in his own head) and says he’s insulted.
No man spine in there at all. Rove was bitch slapped and he didn’t like it.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pm#82, Matt,
Thank you for the first part of your posting. But I don’t think questioning the version of events as decribed by a multi-millionaire recording artist and a wife of a multi-millionaire TV actor and writer is exactly stomping on the weak and helpless. Crow and David are pretty privileged themselves, wouldn’t you say?
In any case, I avoided this whole topic through the first two posts. But Faiz’s disingenuous, one-sided presentation of the story without reference to the fact that the Washington Post reports that some witnesses fault David was too much for me to ignore.
The “substance” of the story is meaningless…I couldn’t care less that a powerful White House official and two multi-millionaire celebrities got into some type of tiff. But when I see TP twisting the facts, it bugs me.
(Prediction: Some poster responds: “You criticizing others for twisting facts, Exley? That’s the pot calling the kettle black!!!!)
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:05 pmwho the hell do these people think they are ? scuse me while i bow and scrape
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:06 pm“the fact that the Washington Post reports that some witnesses fault David was too much for me to ignore.
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:05 pm”
So now you consider ONE witness that is not identified as MANY????
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:09 pmyou can’t fix stupid. this cretin appears to believe a cattle drive is “environmental helper” not the disaster it is to all concerned. amazing that someone could be so retarded and the nooz would put a camera on it?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:11 pmPrediction: by Exley No, we’re laughing at how “unnamed sources” is now your gold standard for proof. Hilarious!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:11 pmDoes anybody actually think that Crow and the producer of a “Convenient Lie” actually came over and tried to engage in a civilized discussion? Please, witnesses at the table said she was combative.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:12 pmComment by Barfly — April 23, 2007 @ 4:11 pm
Yes, I though that was rich as well…Exley using the ’some people say’ gambit. Apparently, he’s been watching too much FOX “news”. ^_^
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pmYou’ve gotta love the Bushies’ fix for global warming. “We’re going to spend our way outta this one too! Big magical coal plants will be here in about 10 years if we just keep sending your tax money to our cronies! Remember, to our administration, the answer to all problems is magical thinking!”
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pmLet’s get Karl on the line for his recollection of these events. Or has that been erased just like Gonzo’s memory.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:13 pm#56 How could you possibly think that Bush’s failure in Iraq equals his failure on Global warming? Iraq is a little issue that will eventually go away with time and better judgement. Global Warming WILL NOT go away with time. Bad judgement on Global warming means certain death to most of the world. bad judgement on Iraq means we stay there a tad longer and a few more people die. These 2 issues aren’t even in the same universe. You are talking about one place where 500,000 to 1 million may die while Global warming my kill billions. If you don’t believe Global Warming is the biggest issue, then you fall into that same league as those that simply deny it is real. Belittling it is just as damaging as those that deny it.
It is time we start treating this problem for what it is. A Global killer.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:14 pm(Prediction: Some poster responds: “You criticizing others for twisting facts, Exley? That’s the pot calling the kettle black!!!!) Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
At least you KNOW what you do wrong, just like a misbehaving child. Too bad your parents never taught you how to live honorably, honestly and with integrity. Then again, if they had, you’d have been a progressive!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:15 pmSo now you consider ONE witness that is not identified as MANY????
Comment by RemoveBush
The article in the Washington Post said some witnesses, not one.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmRove prefers to the touch of Jeff Gannon, obviously.
Comment by Matt Jett
We all know that.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmDoes anybody actually think that Crow and the producer of a “Convenient Lie†actually came over and tried to engage in a civilized discussion? Please, witnesses at the table said she was combative. Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 23, 2007 @ 4:12 pm
More projection, from the troll that “came her to engage in civilized discussion?”… You wingnuts are all alike.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmOnce again, Barfly doesn’t do his reading. Check out posting # 65.
Meanwhile, I find it extremely amusing that you uncritically take the self-serving blog posted description of the incident by Crow and David as gospel truth. Barfly: “Wow. Sherly Crow and Laurie David said that’s how it happened??? Well, then it MUST be true!”
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmYep, them there cat-tell-min shur no how ta raise up a fine inviro-mintellist.
Comment by Raven — April 23, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Just what I was thinking, Raven. Just like those commercial fisherman are interested in marine life.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmIs that a “hallmark of great reporting†for you?
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
ThinkProgress is not a news source, and Faiz is not a reporter.
I thought by now you’d have that much figured out.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pmMore projection, from the troll that “came her to engage in civilized discussion?â€â€¦ You wingnuts are all alike.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Projection??? Did your psychiatrist teach you that word? I just went back and read your posts in this thread and you talk about civilized? Hilarious.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:19 pmOnce again, Barfly doesn’t do his reading. Check out posting # 65.
Meanwhile, I find it extremely amusing that you uncritically take the self-serving blog posted description of the incident by Crow and David as gospel truth. Barfly: “Wow. Sherly Crow and Laurie David said that’s how it happened??? Well, then it MUST be true!†Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
Asking the president’s chief strategist why this administration is ignoring the world of science, and the future of the planet - isn’t being disrespectful. Working towards destroying the planet, while ignoring the will of the people is disrespectful.
Being a dishonest, cowardly little piece of sh*t like you and Rove, is disrespectful to the human condition, ExLax.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pm#91 Spudge,
The entire detailed description of the incident that has been accepted uncritically and without any corroboration by TP comes from Crow’s and David’s own entry on “HuffingtonPost.” They are the ones who first went public with this encounter and whined that their feeling were hurt.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ laurie-david-and-sheryl-crow/ karl-rove-gets-thrown-und_b_46501.html
But I must admit, they are clever. They achieved their objective and got their free publicity for their “Stop Global Warming College Tour”
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:20 pmMeanwhile, I find it extremely amusing that you uncritically take the self-serving blog posted description of the incident by Crow and David as gospel truth. Barfly: “Wow. Sherly Crow and Laurie David said that’s how it happened??? Well, then it MUST be true!â€
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:16 pm
You’re willing to take the word of unnamed sources in the article, but don’t believe for one second the word of Laurie David and Sheryl Crow. That’s just too rich for words.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:21 pm“The article in the Washington Post said some witnesses, not one.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 23, 2007 @ 4:16 pm”
OK…..
But if they are UNNAMED, it still does not matter!!!!
For all we know the reporter made that up!
Provide the proof of these people so that they can be questioned by multiple sources, then it will matter!
Until then, you really have NOTHING!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:21 pmHat tip to Dana for working in the Cheryl Crow lyric reference at the beginning of the clip. Beyond that, blah. . . blah. . . blah. . .
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:21 pmBut we’re through, Dana. Pretty doesn’t cut it anymore. I don’t have a problem with being attracted to a Republican, but I do demand honesty from my fantasy crushes. …Although, now that I think about it, that comes pretty close to disqualifying all Republicans, doesn’t it?
Comment by KRank — April 23, 2007 @ 3:28 pm
Oh thank goodness, I’ve been spending my days hoping you’d turn gay before you ended up with that awful woman. What a relief.
Pretend Mom
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:22 pm#97. Exley. That’s funny that you would compare two entertainment industry rich women to the main advisor to the most powerful man in the history of the universe. There’s no comparison there. Of course, Crow and David are well-to-do rich women. But look at the “constituencies” that they “represent” - 1. the world’s poor who will be the most affected and damaged by climate change and 2. multi-billion dollar energy industry executives and stockholders.
And my reflecton on your loyalties really does not center around this post, but your unending loyalty to the robber-baron powerbrokers that want more than anything to maintain the current status quo of wealth and privilege.
So, keep it up man. The rulers that put truth in the backseat in order to maintain their power positions against encroaching Democracy love you.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:22 pm“Not trying, it came across loud and clear.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 23, 2007″
To who?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:23 pmOkay, one more time Exley..
If this is such a non-issue, why are the right wing pundits bringing up Sheryl’s suggestion of conserving TP?
And why are the trolls (ditto heads) here (rancid bunny) following lock and step with said attack?
I mean, after all, it’s trivial, correct?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:23 pm“Still stalking, creepy dude?
Comment by DRxJ — April 23, 2007″
Nope! Just trying to keep liberals honest!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:24 pmTo who?
Comment by michael st.stalker — April 23, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
and I now direct you to our great debating skills of our residential, creepy, lurking, probably a peeping tom, troll…
michael
Ta Dah!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pm“#55…Exley, you are pathetic and every one of your posts reinforces that fact.
Comment by Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party”
Care to elaborate on what you disagree with in post # 55?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:26 pm#113.
“ThinkProgress is not a news source, and Faiz is not a reporter.”
You can say THAT again, Gregor!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pmTo who?
Comment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
The correct question is “To whom?”. Ignorant Jake*ss.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:27 pm““Mommy, the girls at school made fun of me.â€
“STFU Karl and eat your slop you little b!tch.â€
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 23, 2007″
My, my, the intelligence exhibited by the left on this blog is inspiring!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:28 pm“Just trying to keep liberals honest!
Comment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:24 pm”
Might I suggest you worry about the Repubs more????
Repubs:
http://dir.salon.com/ story/ news/ feature/ 2005/ 01/ 18/ scandal/ index.html
Dems:
http://www.boycottliberalism.com/Scandals.htm
Notice how far back this list had to go?????
Most of the listing for the Repubs are VERY CURRENT!!!!!
Please work on your own party before you try to work on your opponents.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:29 pm“The fact that you can post your garbage here and not get banned, but we can’t post at redstate without having it deleted at getting banned speaks volumes for which side knows about free speech dumb a$$.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 23, 2007″
If what you post here is an example of what you post on redstate then I don’t blame them for deleting garbage!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:30 pmYou can say THAT again, Gregor!
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:27 pm
And you are not an intellectual, an expert, or remotely competent on any subject you post about…
I’m not sure which is worse. Your disingenuous debates, or michael’s claim to want to debate, while acting like a desk hugging coward.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pmMy, my, the intelligence exhibited by the left on this blog is inspiring!
Comment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:28 pm
You critiquing the intellect of others. Perhaps when you learn how to construct a compound sentence, use proper grammar, and what the meaning of the word “debate” is, this won’t make you look so st*pid - son.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pm“I wish they would channel some of that Washington energy into something constructive rather than baseless swift-boating.
Comment by Kevin Good — April 23, 2007″
Are you accusing someone of doing something wrong?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pmExLax, your d*ld* michael is here to support you. I’m surprised you’d let him out of your *ss long enough for him to type for himself!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:32 pmThe fact that TP has devoted three posts to the hurt feeling and bruised egos are Sheryl Crow and Laurie David is really quite an embarassment to this site.
Comment by Exley
Exlax, you’re foaming at the mouth. TP is doing just fine, thanks.
But, you Neocons are slobbering all over each other as the walls close in.
I thank KKKarl for his venomous response. Young people all over the Nation will be coming in droves to hear Crow’s message, thanks to KKKarl. In fact, I don’t think the timing could be better. KKKarl stuck his mouth in his pampered white ass, and you know it, bozo.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 pmAre you accusing someone of doing something wrong?
Comment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
You’ve done something right? Prove it!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 pm#123 DRxJ,
“why are the right wing pundits bringing up Sheryl’s suggestion of conserving TP?”
I imagine its because Crow is running all over the place today on TV and on blogs to peddle her disputed story about the encounter with Rove and whine about her allegedly hurt feelings and other people who disgree with are tired of her act and want to show how extreme he is on the issue of the worldwide threat posed by toilet paper.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 pm“They’ve had plenty of years of the kind of “respect†they intimidated out of people
Comment by loretta — April 23, 2007″
I suppose you can back that dumb statement up?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:33 pmOK…..
But if they are UNNAMED, it still does not matter!!!!
For all we know the reporter made that up!
Provide the proof of these people so that they can be questioned by multiple sources, then it will matter!
Until then, you really have NOTHING!
Comment by RemoveBush
Do you have any reason to doubt the jounalistic integrity of this writer for the Washinton Post?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pmBut I must admit, they are clever. They achieved their objective and got their free publicity for their “Stop Global Warming College Tourâ€
Comment by Exley — April 23, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
Yeah, what a waste of time worrying about the planet when we could be happily fearing evil doers and cheering “shock and awe”.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pmIf what you post here is an example of what you post on redstate then I don’t blame them for deleting garbage! Comment by michael — April 23, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Ah, the lover of propaganda and censorship. Your training is complete, apprentice, you now serve the darkside, and remember that fascism and torture are signs you’re a saint!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:34 pm“I think you need to look a bit more closely at the cushy, pampered lifestyle of Karl Rove before you continue in this vein.
Comment by ann — April 23, 2007″
To what are you referring?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:35 pm“the Swift Boating Ms.Crow is taking right now.
Comment by DRxJ — April 23, 2007″
What do you mean by Swift Boating?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:36 pmBut if they are UNNAMED, it still does not matter!!!!
For all we know the reporter made that up!
Provide the proof of these people so that they can be questioned by multiple sources, then it will matter!
Until then, you really have NOTHING!
Comment by RemoveBush
Unnamed sources play a key role in journalism. Don’t you think Nixon’s legacy would be a little different without an unnamed source?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pm“Yeah, what a waste of time worrying about the planet when we could be happily fearing evil doers and cheering “shock and aweâ€.
Comment by Juan C — April 23, 2007″
What’s wrong with the planet?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:37 pmThe President’s record on climate change is very strong,†Perino said.
Right! Don’cha know, he going to turn Iowa, Illinois, and Nebraska into Corn Factories for Ethanol, so’s the cost of corn will go as high as en elephant’s eye and no one who actually eats it will afford same.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:38 pm“Do you have any reason to doubt the jounalistic integrity of this writer for the Washinton Post?
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 23, 2007 @ 4:34 pm”
YES!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:38 pmto many McDonalds, michael…….
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:38 pmDo you have any reason to doubt the jounalistic integrity of this writer for the Washinton Post? Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 23, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
So if those journalists, were to say in the past have written articles that say bush has been dishonest about Iraq - you’d have no reason to doubt their journalistic integrity?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pm“You’ve done something right? Prove it!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — April 23, 2007″
Did you perfect your debating skills in PS 13 on McLean Ave?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pmTacky, Laurie David….VERY tacky! The White House Correspondents dinner is NOT the place to make your political point - besides…. I thought you already did THAT with “A Convenient Truth”. I hope TP lets its audience in on some of the latest environ-wack suggestions:
1 square of TP (the paper product) per bathroom visit should suffice…
the dining sleeve - which would replace paper napkins…. and Kleenex.
What freaks!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:39 pm“Unnamed sources play a key role in journalism. Don’t you think Nixon’s legacy would be a little different without an unnamed source?
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 23, 2007 @ 4:37 pm”
There’s a difference in the example you gave and the one in discussion…..
If you can’t see that, then it’s not worth trying to explain it to you!
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:40 pmTo what are you referring?
What do you mean by Swift Boating?
What’s wrong with the planet?
Comment by michael (I’m on the sexual offender registry) — April 23, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
The great debater at his finest. but what do you expect from a Drudge Report cloney?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:40 pm“YES!
Comment by RemoveBush — April 23, 2007″
Explain?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:41 pmYES!
Comment by RemoveBush
And your reason is?
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:41 pmThe same liberals who aren’t pleased with Karls’ reaction to Crowe/David must be tickled pink with the Free Speech Oppressors at the University of Michigan….
Gotta run……
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:42 pmPerino was advised to put on her big girl panties. She has clearly taken that advise to heart, big time.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmKarl does have a sense of entitlement, but it’s not just because he’s a male; it’s because he’s a pampered Washington insider.
Comment by ann — April 23, 2007 @ 4:01 pm
The nerve of these two bitches. They didn’t curtsey and kiss Rove’s ring before they dared to ask him a question.
Oh, and tell Exlax to pound sand where the sun don’t shine. He thinks TP is embarrassing he better run off with his tail between his legs before his “friends” find him here.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmTacky, Laurie David….VERY tacky! The White House Correspondents dinner is NOT the place to make your political point - besides…. Comment by valiant venus — April 23, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
There’s NEVER a time or place to make a political point for you waco’s except maybe when YOU are trying to do it!
I thought you already did THAT with “A Convenient Truthâ€. I hope TP lets its audience in on some of the latest environ-wack suggestions: Comment by valiant venus — April 23, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Why don’t you let the audience in on the latest anti-environment suggestions. Like use more oil, so the RAPTURE happens sooner!
1 square of TP (the paper product) per bathroom visit should suffice… the dining sleeve - which would replace paper napkins…. and Kleenex. What freaks! Comment by valiant venus — April 23, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
You never thought that maybe your toiletry needs was just of a reflection on what a filthy skank you are? But don’t like to us venus. We know you never clean up after yourself -that’s why the stench when you arrive even makes it through the TUBES.
April 23rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmSt*pid c*nt.
So if those journalists, were to say in the past have written articles that say bush has been dishonest about Iraq - you’d have no reason to doubt their journalistic integrity?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
If they had unnamed sources that said Bush did this or did that no I would have no reason to doubt them at face value.