Beck: Iraq Withdrawal Would Be ‘America’s Most Shameful Act Of Immorality Since Slavery’
Beck: Iraq Withdrawal Would Be ‘America’s Most Shameful Act Of Immorality Since Slavery’
CNN Headline News anchor Glenn Beck said tonight that if America withdraws from Iraq, it “would be America’s most shameful act of immorality since slavery,” adding that congressional war opponents are “just plain stupid” and “can’t see the future.”
Beck claimed that if U.S. forces pull out, a “genocide” will take place that makes Darfur “look like a picnic.” “The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands,” Beck said. Watch it:
According to Beck, the solution for Iraq is more U.S. troops. A lack of troops isn’t the problem. Since President Bush sent his “surge” of troops to Baghdad, violence has gone up. The deadliest single attack since the war began — a suicide truck bombing in Tal Afar that killed 152 people — occurred this month, as did the deadliest attack yet inside the Green Zone.
The U.S. presence in Iraq is hurting, rather than helping, the situation. Seven out of 10 Iraqis want the United States to leave, and a poll last year found that the majority of Iraqis believe violence would decrease if U.S. troops withdrew.
There is no comparison between enslaving human beings and proposing a plan to remove U.S. troops from the middle of a civil war.
(HT: My Two Sense)
And three, the Democrats in Congress, I believe many of them, are just plain stupid. They can’t see the future. It’s a combination of all three. Meanwhile, they’re not only playing with the lives of our troops, but they are playing with the lives of the Iraqi people.
It is immoral for us to do what we’re doing right now, to abandon these people and let them get slaughtered after we started it. If we did that now, this would be America’s most shameful act of immorality since slavery. The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands.
Harry Reid, the Iraqi children are not wetting their pants because of us and the American soldiers. They are wetting their pants and having nightmares because of the lack of American soldiers protecting them.
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He’s not getting laid enough.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:43 pmOh my god, just shut the f*ck up….
April 24th, 2007 at 10:43 pmOnly the morons like Beck, no worries.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:45 pmRepeat after me: “What so-called-liberal-media?” – thanks Eric Alterman
April 24th, 2007 at 10:45 pm,em>He’s not getting laid enough.
Comment by Horny Proggy — April 24, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Aren’t we all? But you don’t see me riding about the countryside wearing a pillowcase, yelling ‘yee hah!’
April 24th, 2007 at 10:46 pmTry to avoid posting FACTS, because TP will just delete them……
April 24th, 2007 at 10:47 pmDefinitely the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard Glenn Beck say…
April 24th, 2007 at 10:48 pm“can’t see the future.â€
As opposed to republicans who CAN see the future?
April 24th, 2007 at 10:48 pmDefinitely the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard Glenn Beck say…
Comment by Granola Hippy
Just give him time.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:49 pmThe White House is pulling out all the stops. It doesn’t get any more desperate than this. Say anything, Beck. Nothing is too silly or over the top. Bush and Cheney are so desperate to keep this phony war going that they’re calling out all the right-wing nutjobs to launch a verbal assault.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:50 pmAs opposed to republicans who CAN see the future?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
Hey, we need s’mores if you’re going to tell scary stories. :D
April 24th, 2007 at 10:50 pmUm, are we supposed to stop the killing by killing more Iraqis? The blood is on our hands no matter what we do. Might as well stop now and save a few lives.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:50 pmI like 24-hour cable news shows. The highest quality information.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:52 pmand a poll last year found that the majority of Iraqis believe violence would decrease if U.S. troops withdrew.
Gotta give it to those Iraqi’s – more common sense then the average troll here. Less guns + less people who are hated = less death.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI watched this live, and it was terrifying. Stupid Little Glenn Beck also said something about “hippy-communists” during this.
Glenn Beck you are, seriously, mentally ill. You are EXTREMELY confused! Just like all the other “Republicans”. You don’t seem to know right from wrong anymore, or up from down. If you can predict the future, go gamble and win some money. But, Oh!, you can’t!
Folks this is how an insane person acts. Yes, mad as a mad-hatter.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:54 pmHarry Reid, the Iraqi children are not wetting their pants because of us and the American soldiers. They are wetting their pants and having nightmares because of the lack of American soldiers protecting them.
…
after we started it.
No, beck, its because of us.
Children in Iraq are having this psychological problem because of us. In Iraq some people made videos of life before we attacked them. I have seen them and the children in them. Things have changed horribly because of the decisions of Americans.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:54 pmBeck is an arrogant putz. The fool says “The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands,â€. How many Iraqi children have already been slaughtered by the “liberating” Amercian war machine
April 24th, 2007 at 10:55 pmNobody’s buying it you CLOWN. Get off the stage!
April 24th, 2007 at 10:57 pmUnless we kill all of the Iraqis there will be genocide! So let’s get crackin’.
-GSD
April 24th, 2007 at 10:58 pm… and in other news: Rich People serving in Iraq, 0.0001%
You want to support Iraq, Glen? Talk to your rich buddies on Wall Street and have them send all their kids and money there.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:59 pm#
Beck is an arrogant putz. The fool says “The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands,â€. How many Iraqi children have already been slaughtered by the “liberating†Amercian war machine
Comment by Jason Baddo — April 24, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
Let’s not forget Afghanistan, and all the pregnant mothers that our bombs and bullets performed murder, and forced abortion, how ya feel now pro-lifers!
April 24th, 2007 at 10:59 pm**Throwing rotton vegetables**
April 24th, 2007 at 11:02 pmCan anyone tell me if you see my post??
April 24th, 2007 at 11:02 pmNobody’s buying it you CLOWN. Get off the stage!
Comment by NatteringNabob
I agree 100% — and I loooove your sign in name!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:03 pmSomething is very wrong with him. Very. To the point of scary.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:04 pmSuit up Glenn, and hit the drop zone.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:05 pmBeck is only 43 years old.
I’m sure the Army would take him if he volunteered.
“Beck Bound for Baghdad Brigade” — that should be the title of his next show — if he had any guts.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:07 pmHey, is that Glenn “Wet-brain” Beck? Remember, me Doobie McSpliff…we went through detox how many times?
Hide the liquor, Glenn is pretending to care about Iraqi civilians.
-GSD
April 24th, 2007 at 11:08 pmnot right now,
but later on,
there really has to be a thorough congressional investigation of how
fox news and cnn set their news agendas.
in particular , testimony needs to be taken from roger ailes and richard parsons,
not from the “news readers” themselves,
but from the producers and their bosses.
there is something going on in cable news that is really fishy -
possibly collusion between ailes and parsons.
i can find no way to explain the way these two report their political news than collusion, external threats, or bribery.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:10 pmComment by RemoveBush
April 24th, 2007 at 11:10 pmBeck is only 43 years old.
Comment by Earthside
Really? He looks like a giant baby.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:11 pmCan anyone tell me if you see my post??
Comment by RemoveBush — April 24, 2007 @ 11:02 pm
Yup. Hope that the ‘post’ is not a metaphor for something, though :)
April 24th, 2007 at 11:13 pmGlenn one day when CNN is getting ready to fire you, this will no doubt be one of the clips they play to show how out of touch with reality you were.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:14 pmGranite State #28 – LOL
April 24th, 2007 at 11:14 pmThanks barfly…..
April 24th, 2007 at 11:14 pmWe already have blood on our hands, Beck. thanks to you and your ilk. You freekin’ moron.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:14 pm“can’t see the future.â€
What he means is ignore the past. That lets him and his bloodsoaked cadre off the moral hook. History will determine future events, and Beck will go down as a third-rate propagandist. The blood of innocents already stains his manicured fingers.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:14 pmRemoveBush:
De nada.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:16 pmIs it just me, or the GOP and their pundits seem incredibly out of touch with reality…
April 24th, 2007 at 11:16 pmHere’s a surprise for you, Beck doesn’t care about the people in Darfur or Iraq. He’s just making a dishonest argument for why why must stay in Iraq because staying in Iraq is what the Repubs want to do.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:19 pmIs it just me, or the GOP and their pundits seem incredibly out of touch with reality…
Comment by DB
Power is addictive, and they are Jonesin!’
April 24th, 2007 at 11:20 pmWhen has Glen Beck ever cared about anything but his pathetic little ratings? Oh, that’s right, never and his comments on this are no different.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:21 pmHey I want my money back, this snake oil doesn’t work.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:21 pmOh, come on, there must be at least 3 or 4 people left in the country who take Glen seriously.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:23 pmJust watched Jon Stewart with John McCain. Man! God bless Jon Stewart! What a patriot! What a “fake?” news show? I’m sorry, the Daily show is the only real news. Thank you Jon!
Peace!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:24 pmPJ
Beck has really gone downhill since that “Where it’s at!” single…. two turntables and a microphone…
April 24th, 2007 at 11:24 pmPeej – report please. Did McCain sing?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:25 pmAhhhh, glen beck- behind the pudgy, “aw-shucks” demeanor lies a scum- sucking sack of shit racist , a true waste of skin.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:26 pmso i guess glenn’s okay with the pentagon lying to soldier’s families. and regarding “The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands,†his concern is about 600,000 dead iraqis too late. and iraqi children? maybe he’s referring to Abeer Qasim Hamza al-Janabi.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:26 pmJust watched Jon Stewart with John McCain. Man! God bless Jon Stewart! What a patriot! What a “fake?†news show? I’m sorry, the Daily show is the only real news. Thank you Jon!
Peace!
PJ
Well, now you have to give details to those of us without the magical sparkle box.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:26 pmHe’s not getting laid enough.
Comment by Horny Proggy — April 24, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Aren’t we all? But you don’t see me riding about the countryside wearing a pillowcase, yelling ‘yee hah!’
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 24, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Best post of the day. Thanks!!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:28 pmWhat Beck would have said on his old radio show “would be America’s most shameful act of immorality since ending slavery,â€
April 24th, 2007 at 11:28 pmGlenn Beck is so goofy looking and goofy talking how can anyone take him seriously? He looks like Chippy the Chipmunk trying to talk politics.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pmWhy is this insect still on TV? I heard his ratings are complete shit.
Oh, yeah, he worships Bush, just like CNN does.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pmPeace!
PJ
Comment by PeeJ — April 24, 2007 @ 11:24 pm
Did Stewart say that McCain implying Americans who want the war ended don’t respect the soldiers is almost criminal?
TP needs to get that clip here.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:31 pm“Did Stewart say that McCain implying Americans who want the war ended don’t respect the soldiers is almost criminal?
TP needs to get that clip here.
Comment by Shane — April 24, 2007 @ 11:31 pm”
Why, they will just CENSOR it or delete any post that would present factual information about it!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:33 pmBeck must join the military, and go over to Iraq to patrol the streets of Baghdad, or he must shut his Nazi mouth > PERIOD. CNN must fire him.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:35 pmbeck is nothing more than a black hearted, no neck, bloated face, reich winged radical relegious nut bag troll that is on T.V.,,Watched part’s of 2 of his slimy show’s and had enough.. He is a paid hack nothing more…Did ya ever notice how many chemichel abusers that have gone into treatment come out raving relegious lunatic’s…They exchange one problem for another as far as I can see..And ofcourse many of their brain cells are gone…Geees..We need better dolts on the T.V…Blessings
April 24th, 2007 at 11:35 pmWhy, they will just CENSOR it or delete any post that would present factual information about it!!!
Comment by RemoveBush
Huh?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:36 pm,em>Best post of the day. Thanks!!
Comment by Juan C — April 24, 2007 @ 11:28 pm
Thank you Juan, I have been stepping up my game this evening – the recognition from such as yourself is indeed praise.
Other subject: how’s your countryman, the flawed genius Diego?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:36 pmBeck’s an idiot. Ignore him.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:36 pmBeck would look awfully tasty on a spit with an apple in his mouth.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:39 pmHe’s not getting laid enough.
Comment by Horny Proggy — April 24, 2007 @ 10:43 pm
Aren’t we all? But you don’t see me riding about the countryside wearing a pillowcase, yelling ‘yee hah!’
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 24, 2007 @ 10:46 pm
Then again, how would anyone know – I’m wearing a pillowcase? Back in a bit.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:39 pmNope! McLame was completely over his head. I don’t understand why these people won’t heed Rahm’s warning. If you don’t have a truthful story you can defend, DON’T go on the Daily show or Colbert. THEY WILL MAKE YOU LOOK LIKE IDIOTS! Though, because you’re lying, it’s not really that hard. I mean I could do it, and I’m just an idiot American (God bless me, I need it)!
Peace!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmPJ
“Oh my god, just shut the f*ck up….
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007″
Why zooey? What did he say wrong? Show us what you learned in school today?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmBeck’s an idiot. Ignore him.
Comment by Publicus
But the thread…..!
Trying…..to…stay…..on….topic…
Heh.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pm“Huh?
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007 @ 11:36 pm”
It seems that TP has a problem with people posting FACTS about Republican presidential candidates….. Oh say, Rudy G.
I posted four posts with a link to the video and quoted text, and ALL of them were deleted in the RUDY thread.
From here on out, I will continue to point out how TP is CENSORING the TRUTH and wish to keep the FACTS about 9/11 hidden.
See prison planet dot com and look for the Rudy lies article if you want to know what I posted that was deleted FOUR times…..
April 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmBeck would look awfully tasty on a spit with an apple in his mouth.
Comment by JPark
Now I have to scrub my brain with a wire brush….
April 24th, 2007 at 11:42 pmThen again, how would anyone know – I’m wearing a pillowcase? Back in a bit.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Yee hah…..
April 24th, 2007 at 11:43 pmYpu guys are a bunch of miserable Stalinst pricks! Get a life!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:43 pmThe blood of Iraqi children (and adults) is already on this adminstration’ hands, and has been for 4 years.
But according to Beck the the blood will only flow if the Democrat plan “abandons” Iraqis.
The Iraqis were abandoned by this adminstration and the neo-con cabal from the outset–as the plans for invasion and occupation were being drawn up.
Oh, there’s really no f****ing point in responding to this, here, is there?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:44 pmYpu guys are a bunch of miserable Stalinst pricks! Get a life!
Comment by The Joker
I never killed anyone! And you can’t prove it anyway!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:47 pmOther subject: how’s your countryman, the flawed genius Diego?
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 24, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
Oh, I have a harsh opinion about him. In fact, my hope is that he does OK from rehab and be the poorest man in the world, so no drugdealers or fameseekers attempt to induce him into drugs, parties and stuff like that. Greatest player in history with such a sad life.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:47 pm#68 Eh, it was just a cheap shot that he looks like a pig. Time for a roast.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:47 pm#70 Heil!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:47 pm“Ypu guys are a bunch of miserable Stalinst pricks! Get a life!
Comment by The Joker — April 24, 2007″
i knew i shouldn’t have lent you my copy of ‘red dawn’
April 24th, 2007 at 11:49 pmGlenn is impassioned and thoughtful in the speech. Never wuold you see a libby deliever a speech with such force. That takes guts you don’t have.
Beck is da man. Admit you like him, or at least respect him.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:49 pmGlenn Beck looks like a Giant baby for sure.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:50 pmGlenn Beck looks like a Giant baby for sure.
Comment by Centipede on my Tree
He’s all shiny and well-scrubbed.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:53 pmYeah, firehead, your opinion is really valued among those of us that belong to the human race. By the way, that was sarcasm.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:54 pmShouldn’t he be twisting balloons into cute little animals while he’s talking? Oh, I see. He can’t do two things at the same time. Nevermind.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:54 pmYpu guys are a bunch of miserable Stalinst pricks! Get a life!
Comment by The Joker — April 24, 2007 @ 11:43 pm
Stalin was a Georgian thug that robbed trains before getting to the Presidence of the Soviet Union, after repressing opposition and killing Trotsky just a few blocks from where I live. Stalin was a totalitarian dictator. We abhor totalitarism, thats called progress. Bush dismiss Congress, banned habeas corpus and made illegal surveillance of US citizens by wiretaping phone calls. Stalin killed 20 million russians. Bush has killed like 600,000 Iraqis and 3500 american soldiers. He will try to improve his record.
Thank you for giving us an idea of your love for Stalinism.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:54 pmBeck is da man. Admit you like him, or at least respect him.
Comment by firehead
No.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:55 pmOK firhead,
I admit I like him, he’s so shiny and well-scrubbed, how could a person not like that?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:56 pmif beck is really, really concerned about the iraqi people [the ones who haven't been killed or haven't fled the country since the start of the war in 2003], then maybe he can lead the charge to ensure that all iraqi oil profits go to the iraqi people.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:56 pmBeck is da man. Admit you like him, or at least respect him.
Comment by firehead — April 24, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
That is so gay.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:56 pmGreatest player in history with such a sad life.
Comment by Juan C — April 24, 2007 @ 11:47 pm
Nope, I still feel it was Pele, but then again 1986 – never had one World Cup been beholden to a single player, before, or since…… but if he had not cheated on the field as well as off. Hmm, it’s fun to relive it on Youtube, nevertheless… quite a game in Champions League today too.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:57 pmGlenn is impassioned and thoughtful in the speech. Never wuold you see a libby deliever a speech with such force. That takes guts you don’t have.
Beck is da man. Admit you like him, or at least respect him.
Comment by firehead — April 24, 2007 @ 11:49 pm
So was Goebbels.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:58 pmPele’ made soccer(football) cool when I was growing up.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:01 am#87 Terry, the US doesn’t really like soccer :)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:01 amI admit I like him, he’s so shiny and well-scrubbed, how could a person not like that?
Comment by Centipede on my Tree
But do you respect him?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:01 amHow can CNN allow this guy to say this on tv? This is racism blended with ignorant elitism to such an extreme I think this guy would be stomped alive if he said this on a city street.
Lets get one thing straight. The only reason troops are in Iraq is because the neocons and Bush believe it benefits the interests of their particular ideology, not the United States. The US presence is only resulting in massive death and destruction on a genocidal scale.
Ending a campaign centered almost entirely on death and suffering in now way compares to slavery. Beck. Don’t let the maggots chew all the way through your brain, its only a matter of time before they reach the scalp.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:02 amGlenn Beck, just another reason I stopped watching CNN (Fox Lite). Beck is like Tucker Carlson, who the hell watches this shit? Thank God for the BBC and the internet. Glenn Beck is an ass and the only reason he’s on tv is because the corporations that sponser cnn are republican donors. End of story.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:02 amOh, there’s really no f****ing point in responding to this, here, is there?
Comment by Britisher — April 24, 2007 @ 11:44 pm
Not if it makes sense.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:06 am#87 Terry, the US doesn’t really like soccer :)
Comment by JPark — April 25, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Sigh – calling out the AC Milan / United score by the minute in my Houston meeting……. …… sigh
April 25th, 2007 at 12:08 amSigh – calling out the AC Milan / United score by the minute in my Houston meeting……. …… sigh
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
JPark really doesn’t like soccer. :D
April 25th, 2007 at 12:10 am#95 I am interested in whether Marshawn Lynch is going to be a Packer or not. And enjoying the Brewers leading the division. Soccer has a long way to go (maybe having 4 or 5 goals in a game :) ) before catching my attention.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:10 amWho is this non-entity?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:10 amNope, I still feel it was Pele, but then again 1986 – never had one World Cup been beholden to a single player, before, or since…… but if he had not cheated on the field as well as off. Hmm, it’s fun to relive it on Youtube, nevertheless… quite a game in Champions League today too.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 24, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Oh, my god. Im gonna cry, I never thought I could take about football here (and Im gonna use football cuz you took that from us. How many times the ball in an American football match is touched with the foot?). Pelé never played in Europe. He was a monster but Brazil team as a whole was a samba machine.
Hey, he never cheated, the referee just didnt see the hand. ;) As Maradona said: Yeah, I cheated. But they took us the Falklands (Islas Malvinas), so thats a tie.
I couldnt watch it, Terry. Just read the highlights. Most have been a fantastic match. 34 shots in 62 minutes. Manchester plays by the book and in the offense. They should win the CL.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:13 am“Now I have to scrub my brain with a wire brush….
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007″
You have a brain?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amPele’ made soccer(football) cool when I was growing up.
Comment by Centipede on my Tree — April 25, 2007 @ 12:01 am
Maradona made Naples (the poorest city in Italy) win two Scudettos.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:15 amYou have a brain?
Comment by michael — April 25, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Funny. The first time you post here I was wondering if you had a p*nis?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:20 amburnt brain is as crazy as beck..Respect a nazi, married 3 time’s, alcholic, converted mormon that spout’s racism, isolation and back’s the bush dictatorship.. No I wont’ respect such a screaming troll on T.V. any more than I would respect a skin head fool troll here that follows such filth…..Be gone troll and take the trash beck out with you when you go.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 amI like to eat brain.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 amIm gonna use football cuz you took that from us You mistake me for an American, Juan.
Now Maradona, couldn’t win a world cup in Europe either, although he did play in Europe for a few good years. One wonders if the English would trade the Falklands for a World Cup these days :). That’s 25 years ago, not fair to the kids who lost their lives back then on behalf of more old men and women who should have known better.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 am#102 I think he probably does but I am sure it is one that nobody could be proud of. I always say…”I would rather have no penis than Michaels little inch-worm.”
April 25th, 2007 at 12:24 amYou have a brain?
Comment by michael — April 25, 2007 @ 12:14 am
mikey, here you are: skiving off again. How’s your weather story coming along?
Juan: I think Liverpool will do it again…..
April 25th, 2007 at 12:25 amGo to this page and scroll to the first picture on th left…
http://tomflocco.com/fs/FbiMemoPhotoLinkBushJfk.htm
Notice who is in the picture???
April 25th, 2007 at 12:25 amI like to blend up the brains into a paste, for crackers, or stoned wheat thins.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:25 amNo I wont’ respect such a screaming troll on T.V. any more than I would respect a skin head fool troll here that follows such filth…..Be gone troll and take the trash beck out with you when you go.
Comment by Sharon
Nice one, Sharon. You have such a gift for words and imagery. :)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:26 amJPark, I don’t understand of what you speak.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:26 amHere is a closeup
http://www.tomflocco.com/Docs/63/BushJfkBookDepo.htm
April 25th, 2007 at 12:27 am#110 Heh, it is a Wisconsin thing. :)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:30 amJust another a$$hat chickenhawk that doesn’t know Jack sh*t about the situation….just another Rovian Stooge spouting Repuke talking points.
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 25th, 2007 at 12:34 amOh Good Lord….Soccer talk???????
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
Mets win tonight! In first place in the NL East, tied for the best record in baseball!
April 25th, 2007 at 12:34 amTerry:
Sorry about the football remark. It was a joke anyway. Maradona almost won it, with a lousy team and a big swollen ankle, 90. No other player in history of futbol has represented so much in a good way to so many people than Maradona.
You are Brittish, dont you? Yeah, the Falklands was a tragedy. I wasnt really aware of what was happening. It was a desperate attempt of the military junta that was ruling Argentina to bring out the chauvinism of people after a corrupted, murderous government was seeing its final. Brits are what Brits are: Pirates. I accuse them just as I accuse our government. After the war, it was public that some Argie soldiers starved and freezed to death because food and supplies were being SOLD to other people. We, latinamericans, have these things: the best and the worst.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:34 amOh, Terry.
I hope Liverpool or Chelsea dont. They are good teams, but they are a disgrace to offensive football.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:35 amMets win tonight! In first place in the NL East, tied for the best record in baseball!
Comment by Exley — April 25, 2007 @ 12:34 am
Are you for real, Ex?
18 guys chewing tobacco for more than 3 hours is exciting, because…?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:37 amHoly Sh*t! Beck must be on the same drugs that Limbaugh is on! Do you suppose Beck gets his from the same maid?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:40 amWhat a delusional loser!
#117 But there are more runs in baseball than goals in soccer. :) …and a whole lot of strategy. Baseball is a statisticians wet dream.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:41 amOh Good Lord….Soccer talk???????
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz….
Comment by Exley
Just leave the real sports to the real men.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:42 amBecause it’s the perfect game, Juan. The PERFECT game.
“In fact, the real beauty of baseball is that, if you know the game, it is like the placid duck paddling furiously under water — all sorts of things are happening or may be happening or could possibly happen soon, you think. Then, when something does happen it is that much more delicious. That, as much as the periodic action, is what makes baseball such a marvelous sport.” – Frank Deford in Sports Illustrated (October 2000)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:46 amThe U.S. presence in Iraq is hurting, rather than helping, the situation. Seven out of 10 Iraqis want the United States to leave, and a poll last year found that the majority of Iraqis believe violence would decrease if U.S. troops withdrew.
That poll was from from January 2006, 15 months ago.
Iraqis were asked whether the US leaving Iraq would result in a decrease in violence. They were asked this one month before the Samarra Shrine bombing which accounted for the trigger to the majority of the violence since.
That’s like highlighting a quote from October 1963 on how happy JFK was with his secret service protection. Either just plain stupid or intentionally misleading.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:47 amIraq Occupation is ‘America’s Most Shameful Act Of Immorality Since Slavery’
April 25th, 2007 at 12:48 amJuan, you got it right. Went to BA in 2004 with my colleague who is a Bocas fan. What a fabulous trip. But I saw the poor souls in the great square outside Menem’s palace…. We argued for the whole two weeks about it all, 1982, 1986, 1998, 2002 and the centuries before. I think I figured it out after that trip and also by reading about the Brit who was drafted into the Argentine army and was in Port Stanley at the end. One of the great football rivalries today, along with Germany-Poland, Germany-England, USA-Mexico, Argentina-Brazil…. hope it stays on the field. Peace, my friend.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:50 amComment by Exley — April 25, 2007 @ 12:46 am
To tell you the truth I watch, sometimes, only the “World” series. So, I do not despise it that much. But, come on, watching the Yankees win the trophy every two years is really, really boring.
Now, that guy, Frank Deford, I guess he never played sports in his lifetime. Heh. ;)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:51 amJust leave the real sports to the real men.
Comment by Zooey — April 25, 2007 @ 12:42 am
Heh. You dont give up. ;)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:52 amBack at ya Lady Z…Think I may peak in on the messy thread below..Guialiana (sp) the one day runner for the presidency seems to be going balistick thinking the repukes will keep us safe, ya like that’s working and one would think 9/11 was on the clinton watch, gees the ignorance and evil is staggering with this bunch….
Hay, Juan good to read you here, you are such a dear…BTW you don’t have to apolagize for what your leader’s are or have done, hell look at our mess and the mad men running thing’s here in the states, these guy’s are real lunatics…..Blessings
April 25th, 2007 at 12:53 amNow, that guy, Frank Deford, I guess he never played sports in his lifetime. Heh. ;)
Comment by Juan C
Like Exley.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:53 am“But, come on, watching the Yankees win the trophy every two years is really, really boring.”
Juan, As a New York Mets fan and bona-fide Yankee hater, I couldn’t agree more!
April 25th, 2007 at 12:53 amCheney Impeachment documents at this link…
http://kucinich.house.gov/SpotlightIssues/documents.htm
April 25th, 2007 at 12:54 am#121,
So, what are you saying, Zooey? You wanna talk about Boise State Broncos football????
April 25th, 2007 at 12:55 am#126 You are right about that. The concentration of money hurts baseball. The NFL is much more popular than baseball because (other than the wicked hits) it is fair. Everybody has a chance. My Brewers are a tiny market so they get a chance to make the playoffs every 10-15 years if they build up a good farm system. The Evil Empire (the Yankees) get to buy their way into the playoffs while the A’s, Twins, Brewers and Pirates have to make the right decision every time. This was way off topic but it is late :)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:56 amSo, what are you saying, Zooey? You wanna talk about Boise State Broncos football????
Comment by Exley
I don’t go to Boise State. Who gives a shit?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:57 am#129 Well, the Mets don’t have quite the money the Yankees do but they aren’t the Brewers!!! They should make the playoffs every year.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:58 amHeh. You dont give up. ;)
Comment by Juan C
No, my dear, I do not. :)
April 25th, 2007 at 12:58 am#131 Do you have something against the plucky underdog??
April 25th, 2007 at 12:59 amAh Exley initiates the ‘big Johnson’ contest. Must get another beer. Must hurry – it won’t last long (the contest that is)…
April 25th, 2007 at 12:59 amSo when did Beck become a war wizard? Too much time watching Harry Potter movies, alone?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:01 amPeace, my friend.
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — April 25, 2007 @ 12:50 am
Under any circumstance. ;)
Yeah, it will be really difficult to win a debate about football with an Argie. We, I dont know how to describe it, feel football in a very special, deep way. After it arrived to South America, the rich gentlemen clubs made by rich europeans played it, but it really reached what is now, in the sense of skills, in the docks, the railways, the mines…wherever there were poor workers. So, it has a deep social sense for us, too.
I like England. I admire the physical side of their game. Gerrard, Lampard and Rooney are espectacular players.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:01 am#131 Do you have something against the plucky underdog??
Comment by JPark
They play on frickin’ Smurf Turf.
Nuff said.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:02 amwoooooooooo.. i probably shouldn’t be bloggin now….
April 25th, 2007 at 1:03 amAh Exley initiates the ‘big Johnson’ contest. Must get another beer. Must hurry – it won’t last long (the contest that is)…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Not with baseball, he doesn’t.
Oy…all they do is stand around, scratch themselves, and pat each other’s butts.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:04 am#140 LOL, that is true. It is VERY unnatural turf. Gotta love the ripped up knees.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:04 amHay, Juan good to read you here, you are such a dear…BTW you don’t have to apolagize for what your leader’s are or have done, hell look at our mess and the mad men running thing’s here in the states, these guy’s are real lunatics…..Blessings
Comment by Sharon
No Kidding…..
Its really really hard for me to believe half of American voters actually voted for this Moron in ChimpSuit…… Fscking Twice!!
Still blows the mind.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:06 am
JPark,
I agree that like the NFL, there should be revenue-sharing in baseball. Helps create parity. I was in the Milwaukee area last summer and really wanted to check out Miller Park, but unfortunately, my business took me to Wauwatosa instead of the city itself….Bummer.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:07 amHay, Juan good to read you here, you are such a dear…
Comment by Sharon — April 25, 2007 @ 12:53 am
You had me at the Hay… ;)
Sharon, I think we have the governments we deserve. Sad. But we are learning, little by little. Blessings to you, lady.
Juan, As a New York Mets fan and bona-fide Yankee hater, I couldn’t agree more!
Comment by Exley — April 25, 2007 @ 12:53 am
I like the Red Sox, but it saddens me that players are but mercenaries. There is no sentimental attachment for this or that T-shirt (thats football lingo).
Hey, Ex, why dont you apologize with Zoo? Even if you did nothing wrong, dont you prefer having a good relationship instead of a bad one? Is being right that important for you all the time? Come on. You are no longer 15.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:08 amYeah, it will be really difficult to win a debate about football with an Argie. LOL. Not going to try. Can’t stand ManU, I bet we agree on that.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:09 amwoooooooooo.. i probably shouldn’t be bloggin now….
Comment by whiteyfresh
How much have you consumed, whitey?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:10 amComment by TerrytheTurtle — April 25, 2007 @ 1:09 am
Whats your team? Liverpool?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:12 amI like West Ham…due to Tevez. Heh.
quite a bit, my sweet..
April 25th, 2007 at 1:13 am;)
Oh, sorry. Players are mercenaries… not but…
April 25th, 2007 at 1:13 amJuan,
I like the Red Sox only to the extent that they are the Yankees’ mortal enemy….The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
As for Zooey, well, I am usually more that ready to admit when I make an error and apologize when I am wrong. I just did so yesterday when I misunderstood a posting by I think her name was Ann…
But you’re right, Juan…What the heck? Hey, Zooey….Let’s bury the hatchet!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:14 am#145 Miller Park is an incredible place to watch baseball (just ask Cleveland and LA :) ). Seriously, it is a great place. Wauwatosa, not so much.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:14 am#151 We had a guy in Green Bay sign for less to stay with the Packers. Switch to real football, some of them are loyal. :)
April 25th, 2007 at 1:16 amJuan: Newcastle – I know all about unrequited love, the immortality of he in the No 9 shirt, the heroic failure and the desperate pain of knowing that no matter how many goals you score, your back four just doesn’t stack up….ever….
April 25th, 2007 at 1:18 amquite a bit, my sweet..
;)
Comment by whiteyfresh
Stay home, ok?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:19 amBut you’re right, Juan…What the heck? Hey, Zooey….Let’s bury the hatchet!
Comment by Exley
Right in the back of your head, babes.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:20 amHow much Halliburton stock does he own?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:23 ami’m not going anywhere…
April 25th, 2007 at 1:24 amand Beck’s a little $hit..
2 truths..
:D
Yep! Wayne, the crazies vote for the crazies and stuff the ballot boxes…Hope it end’s…
I’m a Denver Broncos fan, they don’t win much now since Elway retired but I love them any way and I keep hoping….Started watching them in 86 when I was injured and confined to bed…It’s kind of like watching the Macy’s parade and the Rose parade, some good thing’s are traditional……Don’t forget to do something for your country and the world tomorrow, tell some one you love them…….I love you Lady Z, Juan and all the regular poster’s and please think good thought’s for a speedy return of RUCerious to our posting’s…..Nite all…Blessings
April 25th, 2007 at 1:24 amAmazing – there are two conversations going on here – both in English, but each is unintelligible to the other…… heard on my TV in the last 20 mins “Newcastle – wherever that is”
April 25th, 2007 at 1:25 amExcellent, Zooey! I handed you the straightline and you ran with it!
Okay, Juan…See? You have helped bring about peace in our time!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:27 am#160 What happened to RU?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:28 amThe U.S. presence in Iraq is hurting, rather than helping, the situation. Seven out of 10 Iraqis want the United States to leave, and a poll last year found that the majority of Iraqis believe violence would decrease if U.S. troops withdrew.
Of course, 7 out of 10 Iraqis may die relatively quickly once the US withdraws. Thus, decreasing violence. Unfortunately, those who answered the poll won’t be around for any follow-up questions.
Remember, there was hardly any violence in Iraq when Saddam was in control and mass murdering hundreds of thousands. It was very peaceful.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:29 amI love you Lady Z, Juan and all the regular poster’s and please think good thought’s for a speedy return of RUCerious to our posting’s…..Nite all…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
I love you too, Sharon and Juan. Good thoughts for RU’s recovery continuing to go out.
Goodnight.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:29 am#162 But you goaded her on another thread. Nope, not honest.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:32 am#164 Thanks for the neocon update. 7 of 10, huh, muckdog? Sounds like a Fox news graphic waiting to happen.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:34 amgood thought’s for a speedy return of RUCerious Yes. Watching.
I’m a Denver Broncos fan, they don’t win much now since Elway retired and was anyone except Clevelanders not screaming that he make that first down back in…… oh hell last Superbowl I watched….. except for Janet’s nipple.
…. salutations, Sharon, was in your neck of the woods beginning of the week….best of fortunes
April 25th, 2007 at 1:37 amComment by muckdog — April 25, 2007 @ 1:29 am
Prove it Captain Skidmark….
April 25th, 2007 at 1:37 amJPark, The timing was off and the “goading” that was going on on the other thread is now over….The hatchet was buried here and the goading on the other thread is over, at least as far as I am conerned. Go take a look.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:39 am#168 I was rooting for the Browns. I despise that carpetbagging scumbag Javon Walker.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:44 amIraqis may die relatively quickly once the US withdraws. Thus, decreasing violence. Unfortunately, those who answered the poll won’t be around for any follow-up questions.
Comment by muckdog — April 25, 2007 @ 1:29 am
You may think this needs pointing out because of the lack of discussion to that end.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:45 amHowever I would suggest the realisation of the results of US withdrawal is the reason for the lack of discussion.
The reason TP hasn’t contradicted Beck’s suggestion in their article and why the comments now focus solely on sports.
Hey, people, Im off. Take good care, everybody.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:48 am#172 Yeah, Kilo. It wouldn’t have anything to do with that little tidbit being plain stupid.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:48 amLet’s just keep troops in Iraq forever Kilo. That would keep fatalities down. Do you realize just how incredibly counterintuitive that is? No, I suppose you don’t.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:49 amGood night, Juan….I think Zooey missed my hatchet burying before she went to bed….Put in a good word for me!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:50 amNight Juan.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:50 amRight in the back of your head, babes.
Comment by Zooey
And this from the person who feigns so much resentment at rape quips.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:55 am#178, I think (hope) she was kidding….
April 25th, 2007 at 1:56 amOkay, it’s late….Have a good night, JPark. Please take note that the final “goading” e-mail came before Zooey agreed to bury the hatchet and peace was declared….Check out the posting times….I didn’t sandbag anybody…G’night…Go Brewers. Go Mets.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:59 am“Night John Boy,Ben and Erin”…
April 25th, 2007 at 2:00 amSo cute around here.
Glenn was only following research and readings through out the EU that intimated and professed the intentions of those with which we are engaged by military force.. If your intentions are to say hello and how are you you better follow the rules of Shria and never shake anyones hand with your right. Also find a place to run because even your “free speech” won’t be allowed.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:00 am#179 Yeah, rape quips are the same thing, you pathetic troll.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:00 am“The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands,†Beck said.
It already is you vile mother fucker! God damn these people say the stupidest things.
“If we pull out of this war that never should have happened in the first place the blood of Iraqi children will be on our hands, never mind that over half a fucking million Iraqis have already died to date!”
-Glenn (the retarded drug addled shithead) Beck
April 25th, 2007 at 2:02 am#181 Night Exley. If you are honestly repentant Zoo will forgive you eventually. Until then I will enjoy Brewer wins. Mets, not so much but I did root for them a few years ago against the Evil Empire.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:03 amAnd like these bastards give a damn about the Iraqi children.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:04 am#182 What trash are you reading msnullo? Red State?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:04 am#182 Pathetic. Go to freeperville if you want the hatred you so crave.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:05 amI think (hope) she was kidding….
Comment by Exley
Who cares,really?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:06 amBut make a rape quip and you’d think it happened to her.
#187 That was for #183
April 25th, 2007 at 2:07 am#188 Do you know it hasn’t, jackass? Rape is fu$king funny, isn’t it, troglodyte?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:10 amComment by JPark
Suck on this,you damn Cho look-a-like.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:10 am#191 Hehe, Cletus, you need some a that edumacation. You are way out of your league here, toad.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:12 am…but I did root for them…
Comment by JPark
Pete Rose would surely bet that that’s not the only “ROOT” you’re into.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:16 am#193 Wow, you stretched for that insult. I give it a 3.5. Wait, considering you are a closet case it probably came pretty easily to you. 2.5
April 25th, 2007 at 2:20 amRape is fu$king funny,…
Comment by JPerk
Neither is a hatchet in the back of someone’s head.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:22 amI guess your bias won’t let you smell the double standard,will it, J erk.
It has been awfully fun conversing with the lowest common denominator, ?????, but I have a job so it is bedtime. Hopefully you will be a productive member of society some day too. I have a dream.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:24 amJPerk:
Nighty,night,”PACKER” fan.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:31 amIf the voters of America hadn’t beaten the Republican hack in 2006, Congress would probably be voting to reinstate slavery.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:34 amHey Beck: America’s Most Shameful Act Of Immorality Since Slavery has already happened.
It’s called the Iraq war.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:39 amWhy isn’t Beck in Iraq.
Anybody.
He looks of age.
Hey they raised the age for which you can enlist.
April 25th, 2007 at 6:40 amFORGET ABOUT DARFUR!
April 25th, 2007 at 6:44 am(thats really ugly)
“The blood of the Iraqi children will be on all of our hands†Um no, you toady, it’s on the hands of the idiots who launched the occupation of Iraq and on YOUR hands and those of your brethren in the media who sold your souls and integrity selling us this dreck of a plan night after night on your media shows. Stop trying to put your guilt on us you s*****g.
Can we get this moron off the air. Ah, who cares I have officially stopped watching the news and reading newspapers and feel better as a result.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:27 amBeck is too late. The most immoral act perpetuated by the United States has already occurred with the invasion & destruction of Iraq. It is a war of aggression — the sort of thing we routinely condemn when other people do it. (In fact, it was one of the four articles we tried the Nazis for in the first IMT at Nuremberg.)
The simple fact that no one really wants to wrap their minds around is that the world and the United States would have been far better off if the US had not invaded Iraq. And because they did, there are no “right” or “best” things left to do, only “least worst.”
April 25th, 2007 at 7:31 amThe guy is insane.Some call an ambulance for Beck please.Urgently.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:11 amBeck’s father was crimminal in not “withdrawing”!
April 25th, 2007 at 8:15 amThe Point –
Iraq Occupation = Blood on our hands…you DOPE!!
April 25th, 2007 at 8:15 amIraqis killing Iraqis is their business. Just because America killed Saddam doesnt force the hand of the Iraqis… They are choosing to put their religion above the lives of their children. We should just get out and stop pretending like we are the cops of Iraq and stop pretending that if we stay we might some how some day be thanked for what we did…
April 25th, 2007 at 8:32 am—-
According to Beck, the solution for Iraq is more U.S. troops.
—-
I’ll agree with Beck on this point, only it would take like another 500,000 troops. Bush and Rummy woefully underestimated the number of troops necessary after the invasion to maintain security.
But they blew it, so redeploy or BRING OUR TROOPS home!
- Tom
April 25th, 2007 at 8:45 amRecent interviews of political and military leaders in Rolling Stone Magazine do discuss the aftermath of our departure from Iraq, and under all scenarios, more bloodshed and conflict are to be expected.
Beck is correct in saying that the departure of American troops will likely be followed by increased fighting within the sects, and thus, more deaths. But that is all he is correct about, from what I see.
We broke it; we can’t fix it, so if we choose to stay, we will see our own country chipped away, cracked and brittle, until it, too, is destroyed. This will be enabled by the loss of our protections-especially our own constitution, which is intended to help us correct our way once we have gotten off path.
Impeach Cheney, marginalize the BushCo incompetents, and get busy bringing our government and nation back into line with the civilized nations of the world!
April 25th, 2007 at 8:48 amI’m so sick of all the chickenhawks crying “this is a time of war” about the troop withdrawl deadline. Al queda doesn’t know how to govern. Their numbers are small. We leave, they lose all legitamacy and the Iraqi’s will deal with them. Don’t these chickenhawks like Beck realize that everyone knows this is a time of war, a war of our own choosing that we can end at our choosing. What are the conditions for victory Mr. Beck, you dumb moron? Standing up the Iraqi army is out now. Oh, I forgot, once the oil deal is ironed out, then we can claim victory.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:58 amEven if the solution was to send even more troops – we don’t have them to send. Our Army is stretched too thin as it is and we can’t continue at this pace indefinately without it buckling under the pressure. So, do we stay and allow our military to collapse or do we leave and let the civil war play itself out? To preserve our country, I don’t think we have any choice but to leave.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:05 amDoes anyone truly believe that if we leave, Iraq will someone turn into a peace loving Democratic state complete with freedom for its citizens? Not even those that wish America be defeated like Reid can believe that.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:06 amdouble R, you are wrong to throw out rhetoric such as Reid wishes defeat. That shows your blind following. Why should we believe that a Democracy would ever have come out of Iraq. What gave you the idea that by jumping into another country, without understanding it’s infrastructure or culture, take out the leaders and think the machine would still work.
We’ve squandered any chance of a military victory. That was lost when there weren’t enough soldiers to secure the peace. That’s when a fledgling democracy could have happened but it wasn’t thought out. We are in the position we are in today because of Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and the others that ignored the military’s advice of 380,000 troops.
So do you think you have any solid ground to talk about what to do now when you can’t admit that the asshats you’ve been following have been screwing this up for over 3 years?
April 25th, 2007 at 9:17 amWhat the hell is this idiot smoking?
April 25th, 2007 at 9:54 amNo, America’s most shameful act was invading Iraq in the first place. What is shameful is continuing to send our troops into a meat grinder just so we can steal Iraq’s oil. Glenn Beck and his ilk have no conscience. They don’t care how many people have to die as long as we get the oil in the end. Glenn Beck and his ilk’s days are numbered. The American public is finally waking up and will be tuning them out, and in 2008 will be voting the Republics out of office who have supported this travesty of a war/occupation.
I weep for what we have become.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:16 amThis fake Neocons pundit cries over the sufferings of the Iraqis.
That is when you laugh and cry the same time listening to this clown showing how much mercy he got in his heart for the Iraqis.
In his show he always showed hatered for Moslems and Arabs.. he even questioned a newly elected black Moslem,first ever, to US Congress from state of Minnesota..he told him ..”Sir, why should I trust you that you are not helping the terrorists”.
Now he is crying for the Iraqis and humanity….What did he say about the sanctions that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, even before this war started…Madeleine Albright,Secreteray of State under Clinton said “it is worth it”,when asked by CBS ‘60 minutes’ Lesley Stahl…
This clown crying for humanity and the Iraqis lives…does he know that over 650000 Iraqis already lost their lives,and over 3 million refugees inside and outside the country?.
Amazingly,he is blaming Senator Reid for jeopardizing and risking the Iraqis lives..as if the Iraqis enjoying peace and prosperity these days.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:26 am#212 – “Not even those that wish America be defeated like Reid can believe that.” Comment by Roger_Roger — April 25, 2007 @ 9:06 am
How about all the GOP congressional members that hate the US Troops by refusing to properly fund their armouring and training?
How about all the GOP administration officials that actively tried to hide the deplorable conditions our soldiers have to endure in the VA?
It looks like the only people that want the US to fail are the GOP.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:37 amWho cares,really?
But make a rape quip and you’d think it happened to her.
Comment by ?????
Aren’t you the brave one, waiting until I’m gone to start your pathetic trolling?
April 25th, 2007 at 10:54 am“It is immoral for us to do what we’re doing right now.” This is the only part of Beck’s statement I agree with.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:14 pmpeople actually watch that show???
talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations….hoooooo-weeeeee!!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:00 pmI always thought that Beck was a comedy act! You mean it is supposed to be news and commentary?!! But he’s an idiot… but not as big a one as those who pay his salary. That anyone takes him serious makes me want to go take a hot shower hoping to wash off the filth he spews. May never fell clean again.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:52 pmanother stupid white man.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:15 pmOver 220 comments on this thread and barely a dozen actually try to rebut or support thoughtfully the topic brought up in the thread. I surf this blog and daily kos to get an idea of the priority set of those who generally don’t share my ideals.
It’s shameful that those who share sentiment with Reid that there should be a withdrawal date (or immediate withdrawal) keep bringing up kool aid topics like: ‘we went to Iraq for oil’, ‘let the Iraqi’s sort out their own civil war’, ‘Arabs/Muslims/Middleeasterners all hate us (Americans) because of our toppeling of the Hussein/Baathists regime’, ‘Iraqi’s and Iraqi children have been savaged by Allied forces (as if more so than insurgent and sectarioan violence)’.
It’s odd that no one here brings up the reality that if US forces all pulled out local and regional battle for hegemony begins. You can use metaphors like Beck – talking about blood being on hands – but the reality is, only the far left is fooling themselves – only you guys scoff Beck when he says such things – everyone else realizes and understands the consequences of premature US withdrawal.
Someone explain to me how liberals, with this idea (and dread) that everyone hates us (Americans) can advocate a withdrawal from a region striving for independence and self-sufficiency? Is anyone here having a thought conflict with wanting to withdraw but don’t want any more people around the world to hate us when we cut and run militarily from a region where the opponents is advocating an Islamic state (as in Sharia law)?
My tone should be conversational – please keep it this way – I’m simply trying to spark worthwhile debate instead of running through he kool aid sprinkler with those who’ve already posted.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:17 pmsdfgsg
April 25th, 2007 at 3:18 pmThomas let me make this very simple for you…the best possible outcome for the situation in iraq is that it becomes a stable anti-western islamic theocracy. Worst is civil war. Where in that spectrum lies something worth spending our blood and treasure? Are you happy with how democracy has panned out in places like Palestine? There are two choices… we can 1) stay forever, and probably not change the outcome, or 2 ) leave and cut our losses, and let the inevitable outcome occur.
You can keep rehashing the arguments of the people who said we’d be greeted with flowers, that iraq would be a cakewalk and that its oil revenues would pay for it reconstrcution if you want. Honestly, there are only bad outcomes from this….why..because there are no good guys….you think saddam was a bad man opressing poor helpless people? No… theres a reason we used to help him kill the peopel he killed.. its just gangs fighting.. and we changed the equation and tipped the balance to a different gang. If the people saddam opressed were so good and virtuous
why were we helping him kill them less than a generation ago?
> That poll was from from January 2006, 15 months ago. -kilo
ah another feeble brain seizure from our resident douchebag cum philosopher Kilo.. are you saying MORE iraqis want us to stay now than then? or do you care what they want? let me guess, they just dont know whats good for them, right?
> Remember, there was hardly any violence in Iraq when
> Saddam was in control
Comparitively? Recently? yeah, there wasnt much.. have the numbers for how many people saddam killed this decade? he was at his most brutal when Rumsfeld, etc was supporting him. Any speculation about why Rumsfelf supported him then?
> and mass murdering hundreds of thousands. It was very peaceful.
explain something to me… if Saddam was such a mass murderer, why did he hang for killing a mere 148 people? You really think the Us had no control over the trial? If the us wanted to show how horrible he was, why didnt they bring up all his crimes? why.. because we probably helped him commit at least half of them…
Oh, and another thing.. the vast majority of his own citizens he had killed were FIGHTING FOR ANOTHER COUNTRY AGAINST IRAQ……… you guys want to hang people like us for treason just because we disagree with the war…..somehow, if we actually took up arms against you, especially in the name of another country, say, Mehico, are we really supposed to beleive that you people wouldnt be screaming for the blood of us and all our family members?.. please…you people are more like saddam and the religious nuts you claim to hate that you beleive..
April 25th, 2007 at 4:23 pmThomas:
There is no good outcome. The region is striving for independence and self sufficiency from the United States of America.
I already mentioned the likely result of our departure (see post # 209), but I can only guess on the result of our continued occupation. I guess it would continue to be strongly counter to our best interests, and to our image among civilized nations.
There is nothing premature about the departure date being discussed by the Congress. It is overdue, if anything.
This war was illigitimate from the start. Apparently, you and others who share your ideology find that irrelevant now, but I assert it is the major reason why the civilized nations of the world find us to be disagreeable bullies. If we act in a statesmanlike way to correct this error, and once again restore our allegiance to law and human rights, we stand a chance of regaining our national prestige. And deserving it, too.
If you truly think we can determine Iraq’s future through military action, you should apply for that opening for Bush’s “war czar”. Several multi-star generals have turned down the position, out of recognition that the “mission” is folly.
By the way, Senator Reid is not discussing a “sentiment” for a withdrawal date. He is discussing not emotion, but action. Not preferences, but decisions. He is being a “decider”, and he is deciding to do what more than 70% of the American people know is needed.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:33 pmWho’s come up with a graceful exit or redeployment plan in case the funding actually falls through? “Blame the dhimmicrat traitors†doesn’t seem like much of a fallback plan to me – not one that’ll sell to the moderate majority anymore, anyways.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:37 pmThese clowns should have figured Americas strong cultural intolerance for long-drawn-out-expensive wars into their equations from the beginning. They’re looking like strategic idiots right about now. Who’s got more on:
1. New Kurdish and Basra states with US military bases?
2. Pull back to US bases inside and near Iraq?
3. Secure the borders around Iraq (might help us better secure our own borders..)?
4. Let the “islamofascists†have the oil – we’ll go to the energy alternatives?
It was the chickenhawk neocons who got us into this mess by basically arm-twisting any opposition into saying “Uncle! You guys are smarter!â€
They should get us out.
April 25th, 2007 at 5:03 pmI can’t grasp the defeatist ideology of the Left!
How can someone say that Iraq is struggling against US oppression? Wow that makes no sense!
How can someone say that the best outcome is a anti-western theocracy for Iraq. Is this really the inner thinking of someone who’s done much thinking? To bring up Palestine as the most likely path for Iraq is bringing defeatism to unachieved levels.
It’s so sad that individuals feel the need to bring up Saddamn as some low level thorn in the West’s side – try to justify his actions by implicating the US government in some manner. It’s sickening – almost as sickening as stating that the Iraq was better off with a Baathist dictator still in power.
And who is going to throw a number out there like 70%? It’s a shame that our media caters to the left – because it’s the left that gobbles it up without putting any conscious thought into what they are consuming. Who’s going to seriously throw a number out there like 70% and expect no one to ask questions – sorry kool aid is for the kool aid drinkers.
Reid decided to blacksheep himself from his dhimmicrat shepards yet again. It’s sad that a whole party is wagering their future on the defeat of our country’s troops. With Reid saying what he has, the US cannot win in Iraq – for the sake of Democrats everywhere.
April 25th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHow can someone say that Iraq is struggling against US oppression?
Iraq went from the certainty of totalitarianism to the uncertainty of terrorist gang warfare. “US oppression†is stupid, but US stupidity may be oppressive.
It’s a shame that our media caters to the left – because it’s the left that gobbles it up without putting any conscious thought into what they are consuming.
In America or the USSR? Here the media caters to who’s buying, and if the left are the spendthrifty ones, that’s capitalism.
It’s sad that a whole party is wagering their future on the defeat of our country’s troops.
No. It’s Bush Republicans who got us into this mess, and then lost control of their situation when their problems went public. Many other Republicans have turned against them as well.
But this is all BS. Answer my 4:37 and 5:03 questions.
April 25th, 2007 at 5:39 pmI stopped watching CNN after they hired the idiot Beck. I watched his show a couple of times, enough to get the measure of the fool, and then I changed the channel to SpongeBob Squarepants. Actually, SpongeBob and his cronies makes me think of Bush, Cheney, and the other barrel-scrapings the highly intelligent American electorate put in office. There are many points of similarity between bush and Patrick …
April 25th, 2007 at 6:34 pmGlen Beck is cognitively challenged and a total loser.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:03 pmApparently Mr. Beck got two things right – sort of.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:29 pmFirst – quote “According to Beck, the solution to Iraq is more U.S. troops.” end quote. Well, duh! The Only possiblitity now of ramping down the violence in while U. S. troops are still there is to send in about another million or so troops. We don’t have that many troops and even if the draft were reinstituted tomorrow it take at least 12-18 months before any of those troops could be in Iraq. Sorry Glen, wishful thinking is no way to run a foreign policy.
Second – quote “It is immoral for us to do what we’re doing right now, to abandon these people and let them get slaughtered after we started it.” end quote. I guess he must be getting desperate if he’s starting to quote facts to support his arguments.
D.E. Stamate
USN (ret)
What is this bull**** about 7 out of 10 iraqis wanting to get rid of troops. My cousin is a soldier who has been in Iraq for a long time. the real deal is that 99% of the people there love the troops and want and NEED more troops. Unlike you liberal pigs, he is proud to be helping uphold America’s reputation of protecting freedom. If you cowards don’t have the balls to help the people that need your help than you don’t deserve to be American.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:27 pmWell. ejem…If you voted, thats the goverment that you choose…Dont cry now if an atomic bomb explodes around the corner
April 25th, 2007 at 8:29 pmFun to watch so many libs hype themselves up.
April 25th, 2007 at 8:35 pmThis dude is 100% correct. You liberal pu!@#ies need to get out of the way and let the grownups take care important matters!
“the real deal is that 99% of the people there love the troops and want and NEED more troops”
Then why not train and arm them to get rid of the other 1%?
April 25th, 2007 at 8:36 pmK, you liberal nut jobs, you guys are so stupid sometimes. You act like you have the answer. If memory serves me, Congress voted for the war. Not just Bush. That means liberals and conservatives. But since the war didn’t go so smooth all the people who once supported the war are “changing their mind” well, how convenient. PULL THEM OUT, and WHAT? Let them go to CIVIL war? DO YOU REMEMBER when the first Bush pulled out of IRAQ? How he was criticized for it? Remember the movie 3 kings dealt in length with how the US had broken it’s promise to liberate the IRAQI people. Now Bush JR is there trying to do that and some liberal pigs consider him worse than the terrorists in IRAQ. YOU MAKE ME SICK!
April 25th, 2007 at 9:11 pmAnd I am Canadian.
Glenn Beck’s failure to shut his mouth, shoulder a rifle, and “stand the post” is his most shameful act of immorality since his own putrescent birth.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:11 pmOK, Ted. Enough of a joke. Ted. Ted ? Hello. Pull the plug Ted….
April 25th, 2007 at 9:21 pmAmerica’s Most Shameful Act Of Immorality Since Slavery, is actually
April 25th, 2007 at 9:53 pmthe Glen Beck Show, on CNN. Clearly narcissistic megalomania is alive
and well on the cable news feeds.
Hey, Bob, let’s try to think for a minute (must be hard, but try it, nevertheless.) Let’s see: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Bush&Co lied day and night about terrorism, and WMDs (and liberation, bringing democracy, and Saddam being a mass murderer -which is strange, because when he was mass-murdering, these Neocons were very good buddies of his.) So the war was started on lies. The idiot democrats shouldn’t have compromised themselves, but they always were idiots.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:32 pmBush Senior? Well, you tend to forget, that THAT war was actually supported by the whole world, even the Arab world. At THAT time, it could have happened. They even lied to the Iraqis about it, that’s why the 3 Kings movie was made.
Pulling out? Civil war is already raging, all those fractions murdering each other. This was foreseen by everybody but the ignorant and plain morons. What are you going to do about it? If the US pulls out, the murders will go on. If the US does not pull out, the results are the same. You now have a terrorist-breeding ground instead of one of the more stable countries in the Middle East. Whatever they do, THEY F@#ED THIS UP the minute they invaded. There is no good choice. The whole Muslim world is against us now. With jolly good reason (besides, of course the constant meddling of the last century with their fate).
So let’s sit back, and try to do some critical thinking, instead of getting sit, chum, will ya?
I never said that I supported the initial invasion or do I agree with Bush on many issues. However, you guys did invade… the situation will only worsen with withdrawal. Sure it will not be your blood today, but tomorrow. It will only embolden terrorist factions if they see the defeat of the U.S. not make them pitty you. The objective need to be completed now that it has started.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:44 pm1. We withdraw.
2. A Cambodia style genocide happens.
3. The moslem world becomes horrified the same way much of the
communist world did about Cambodia.
4. Populist movements turn Moslem countries democratic like much of the communist world did.
5. Sales of arab technopop go thru the roof.
Invest today.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:20 pmIraq had nothing to do with 9/11.— Possibly True. Most likely the only sensible conclusion in your ramble.
Bush&Co lied day and night about terrorism. —-Definitely false. 911 was not the first terrorist act on US soil and if the current democratic leadership has its way and keeps leading us on a path of defeat, it won’t be long before we suffer another domestic tragedy. The day we pull out of Iraq is the day Islamic terrorists across the world celebrate yet another step towards the ENTIRE WORLD living under Islamic law. Yes, pulling out of Iraq would definitly embolden them, and attacks against US and Allied interests and innocent civilians would become more commonplace.
and Saddam being a mass murderer.— False. This guy killed thousands to preserve his own pathetic evil existence.
The idiot democrats shouldn’t have compromised themselves. —Umm, you got the idiot democrats part correct, except they seem to be compromising themselves now.
and WMDs —- Both President Bush and Congress came by this information from the CIA. So if The President lied to us, then so did most of the democrats in congress.
You now have a terrorist-breeding ground —- Sounds like a good place to fight terrorists to me.
April 25th, 2007 at 11:26 pmC’mon guys, we’re critisizing Glenn Beck not the Iraq War. You can tell his heart is in the right place, he just slipped up on the delivery. If you study the history of iraq it is easy to see the sectional divisions of Sunni, Shiite and Kurd the three ethnicities in Iraq. These odd parings of culture are virtually opposite in their beliefs and, as we have seen for the past five thousand years, differences in the middle east will invariably be settle through warfare. What Glenn Means when he says, ” the Blood of the Iraqi children will be on our hands, ” is that if we pull our there will benothing to to stop the ethnicities from grouping themselves together and waging an internal Jihad on the other occupants of “their” land. Even if we went in for the Oil, or to have Iran surrounded, if we were to just up and leave the peoples would undeniably wage a bloody war amongst themselves drawing all of the middle east into the struggle to fill the power vaccumm that America left. Bush has to stay in, even at the cost of lives and money because if he leaves the media will not be blamed for the resulting genocide/WWIII; he will.
April 26th, 2007 at 12:50 amWhat I and the poll have said is written down. You can still read it if you are confused.
The poll was of Iraqis opinion of whether violence would increase or decrease, a month before the Samarra bombing, before the civil war kicked off and basically all attack and death stats doubled to their current levels.
No. Just more Sunnis. That’s generally how genocide works. It’s usually just the minority getting ethnically cleansed that is after the intervention.
Some basic logic there you may need to grapple with for some weeks. I’ll check back in May, see how you’re fairing.
No, I don’t care what you want.
You invaded the cradle of civilisation, destabilised the entire nation, imposed no law and order, did everything possible to encourage an insurgency, undermining the state and it’s security apparatus which has resulted in a complete lack of security in which terrorist groups, a rubust insurgency, genocidal militias and torture squads pile up bodies 100 a day (or 1000 a day if you believe Lancet).
Apparently, after creating this, you think the US has done the best it can for the Iraqi people and that they’ll be better off once the only viable security force and press are removed.
And to top it off, you think I’m selfish ?
I’m wrong about what I think is best for Iraqis ?
Can’t you tell yourself to GFY ? Seems almost redundant for me to say it.
Just really no humanity to be found in your country is there. No memory, remorse, lessons learned from previous wars and genocides. Nothin at all.
You know what kind of poll of foreigners I’d like to see ?
Survivors, family members, orphans and descendants of victims of US wars, military interventions and genocides polled with just one question:
“Can you name two US political parties”.
You will not get this until your head out of your partisan arse fool.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:16 amGlenn Beck is not a news anchor. News anchors are journalists and even the worst of them bring some measure of journalistic integrity to what they do.
Beck is a commentator – comparable to the editorial writers or columnists at most newspapers – and an odious example of what can go wrong when you give a pinhead an hour a night to spout off just because the religious right contends your network isn’t conservative enough.
Let’s boycot his advertisers – and O’Really’s and Hannity’s, et al, as well – and send the advertisers e-mails telling them why!
April 26th, 2007 at 10:00 amNarkus
April 26th, 2007 at 10:22 amMaybe you should look some definitions up. Ramblings, for example. Or “mass-murder”. (Saddam wasn’t the only one having close relations with the US, by the way.) But you can start looking into recent history as well -you know, like how were certain “world-leadeers” pressuring the CIA to produce “evidence for their pet war…
Not to mention the other points you were afraid to touch (hence the “name-calling” -the bushies do that too… nice job.)
Anyone who compares withdrawal to slavery obviously doesn’t think slavery was all that bad.
As a veteran I have a few questions for the chickenhawk posters here:
If we were victims of an attack on 9/11, how does that make us responsible to “fix” the middle-east problems? Obviously you care more about the international “global village” than you do about America’s own sovereignty.
If we were attacked on 9/11, why can’t we split Iraq into three seperate states and be done with it? If that makes Iran too powerful, then it can be dealt with seperately. YOU are sending soldiers to die for your global vision of a modernist middle-east.
I also don’t understand how neocons can say, on one hand that “islamo-fascism” is a culture of death, and we need to get them before they get us, and then turn around and ask why don’t we believe that Iraqis deserve the same chance at democracy as everyone else and anyone who thinks they don’t want democracy must be a “rascist”. Uh…gee, you attention deficit retards, didn’t you just say they were a culture of death? That just might at least suggest that the fundamental differences between our two cultures are great enough that democracy simply won’t work in the mideast.
You people will say anything to drag this war out, if you were real patriots you would demand that we stop using our troops as bait, unleash the full potential of our military on our enemies, split up nations that oppose us and parcel them out to their neighbors, but international corporations want a bunch of small nation states that don’t have enough power to resist the globalization of markets, so our troops are unnecesarily in harm’s way to defend their sick global vision.
You and your pathetic president are the true traitors to America and its soldiers. Osama is laughing his ass off that Bush is actually trying to “win the hearts and minds” of our enemies. This war fails because it is fundamentally based on a Marxist strategy – give the common people among our enemies material wealth and they will cease to be our enemies and give us what we want. Read Thomas Barnett (a supporter of the war) sometime and you will educate yourself about who and what Bush is really fighting for, and I’ll warn you its not about preserving America.
April 26th, 2007 at 2:35 pmHow has Beck even gotten a show on CNN? Oops–forgot–must be that Liberal Media–what a horrendous joke!!! I too, would like to know where the Liberal media is–besides Air America–which I can’t even find on any of my radio stations. The hate mongering going on with the right wing radio hosts–has taken it’s toll in the USA! Sorry to say–there are some pretty ignorant people out there who buy their junk!
April 27th, 2007 at 7:04 amDear Sir
I watched your show Hard Line Prime on the “End of Days†04/27/2007 9:30 PM, and I have some thoughts regarding the Second coming of Christ, and the great day of his wrath or 7 year tribulation.
This was not mentioned about how near the tribulation could actually be: Matthew 24:33,34 “So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.†This rules out the notion that it’s a very long way off!
You probably know vastly much more that I know about world current events. I take the Bible scriptures at face value; it means what it says, and says what it means and I believe it liturely.
Because I’m more of a nuts and bolts guy, I look for sceincetific astronomical events. Remember the 21 asteroids the hit Jupiter back in 1995 (Levi 5 I think they call it)? Well, there are 21 judgments in the 7-year tribulation. For me, this event was a warning shot telling us to wake up.
The scripture that have intrigued me are Revelation chapter 8 and chapter 9.
Revelation chapter 8 describes a solar asteroid storm that may be bigger in breath than our solar system and headed directly for our sun. This great body of mass has an ice front that earth passes through, then within it mass car size, city size, and mountain size asteroids, then at its core a huge planet asteroid. The “green grass†gets burned up as the earth passes through the ice front etc.. You can see why people will die of fear during this event.
There is evidence that this solar asteroid storm is headed our way. If you take star maps from 50 years ago, and overlay that star maps of today you will find missing stars. There are stars that can no longer be seen because this massive asteroid storm is blocking its view.
Another very recent discovery finding is the new black hole that is passing through our galaxy. You can see its effects on the Internet. Several stars circled around it in a very short time, and were flung out, as they got close.
Revelation chapter 9 describes China very accurately. China now has this great army, and all this advanced technology (that we gave them) will kill in battle one third of mankind or about 2 billion people right after the asteroid storm of revelation chapter 8. There are now over 2 million Chinese troops in Sudan on the boarder of Saudi Arabia.
The seal’s judgments are very much a mystery to me because of the 6th seal at the end of chapter 6. Notice the statement of the 6th seal after what appears to be an all out nuclear war; Revelation 6:17 says, “For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?†After the 6th seal is opened the world recognizes that they are in the tribulation period, but what about the first 5 seals that are opened. The people that were left behind after the rapture and turned to Jesus were all killed at the 5th seal, and then many thousands will turn to Jesus and not receive the “Mark of the Beast†and be put to death. Ref. Revelation 20:4.
The question about Babylon, your hosts did not seemed prepared to answer when they thought it would be rebuilt. It should be tackled on your show when scholarly men are prepared to discuss it at length. Some say Babylon represents the United States of America, other say no it’s the historic city rebuilt. Do you think by the answers they gave on your program that there is time to build such great city as described in Revelation 18? I don’t. Babylon, to me describes America without born-again Christians, not the historical city in Iraq, but that’s my guess.
One of the things, that I believe, will indicate to me that Christ return is upon us is the destruction of the “Mosque of Omar†that sits on the temple mount. Another thing will be the uncovering of Noah’s Ark on mount Ararat.
And finally, the destruction of the born-again Christian may come in sooner than we know. Born-again Christians will be hunted down and killed, as they are already in Europe, Asia, China, Africa, then at last in America. I’ve always said that when the dogs are chasing us born-again Christians through the woods, then the rapture. If they find out that you’re a born-again Christian at work, then you are terminated. Lucky you, you still have a job! The Lord bless you as you fight the good fight of faith. You could also discuss the difference between the “Raptureâ€, and the “First Resurrection†and the difference in the trumpets of Matthew 24:30,31 Revelation 20:4,5,6 and the Rapture in I Corinthians 15:51, 52 and I Thessalonians 4:13-18.
I hope this has been helpful?
In Christ Service,
Art Wilmoth. e-mail: art.Wilmoth@yahoo.com
April 28th, 2007 at 1:14 pmI’m sorry, but for all those who only want to blame this war solely on the Republicans, you have GOT to be kidding me!! Hilary Clinton initially voted for the war in Iraq!!! I mean i’ve been reading all these blogs, and if you think that what Glenn Beck said was stupid, some of you should go back and read what you had to say!!
Everyone has an opinion about this war, and thats fine! You know why? Because our country allows us to think for ourselves and have our own opinions, and to share those opinions with whoever we want. I mean sure, we wish some people wouldn’t share there’s, but still… isn’t it great that we are given that right? Something in me just has to agree with what we are doing in Iraq is right, that it will make a difference, and that maybe oneday in the future, the people of Iraq will be able to say the same.
Now, I don’t listen to Glenn Beck. I actually don’t even care to. Not that I disagree with what he says, but what he says won’t change my own opinion. I came to this site because I was assigned a debate… a debate on the war in iraq, and the only reason I’m writing is to show how much we practice our democracy, how we live it out everyday! Everyone on here is fussing and arguing, and blatantly, when it comes down to it, we just want people to listen!
I just wish people would realize that the people in Iraq deserve that freedom too.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:13 pmDear Glen Beck & readers;
Senator McCain responded that he believed in the communist doctrine of aithist Evolution!
So, Senator McCain says to the country that he believes that Blacks evolves from monkeys!
God wasted his time on McCain when he recused him from prisoner of war, and made him a senator!!@
The only one up there that looked and souded presidental was Mr. Gillmore. Senator Brownback also sounded good
If the Clinton’s get back in office it will be the death of Christianty in America!
art.wilmoth@yahoo.com
May 4th, 2007 at 7:27 amIt is unbelievable that CNN allows Glen Beck to be on their network. He’s a dry drunk with got the IQ of a pidgeon. Is this CNN’s idea of news comedy? Is he CNN’s version of John Stewart? Trouble is, not only is he not funny, he’s stupid to boot! Do yourself a favor CNN, boot his dumb ass off the show, and replace it with a real news analyst, Steve Murphy of the Insider Exclusive TV show, http://www.insiderexclusive.com
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