‘Attack Dog’ Cheney Unleashes Litany Of Misleading Claims About Reid
‘Attack Dog’ Cheney Unleashes Litany Of Misleading Claims About Reid
Vice President Cheney and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) exchanged words today in back-to-back news conferences. Cheney accused Reid of “defeatism” and called Reid’s speech yesterday “uninformed and misleading.”
Reid assailed President Bush for again sending out his “attack dog, also known as Dick Cheney.”
Watch it:
Below, a rebuttal of Cheney’s main attacks:
CHENEY: “Yesterday, Senator Reid said the troop surge was against the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group. That is plainly false. The Iraq Study Group report was explicitly favorable toward a troop surge to secure Baghdad.”
FACT: Iraq Study Group says escalation will “not solve the fundamental cause of violence in Iraq.” The Iraq Study Group said that a “short-term redeployment” of troops into Baghdad could be part of a larger military, economic, and diplomatic plan to wind down the war. But the Bush escalation policy is not short-term. The ISG also states, “Sustained increases in U.S. troop levels would not solve the fundamental cause of violence in Iraq… As another American general told us, if the Iraqi government does not make political progress, ‘all the troops in the world will not provide security.’”
CHENEY: “Senator Reid said there should be a regional conference on Iraq. Apparently he doesn’t know that there is going to be one next week.”
FACT: Regional conferences mean little without diplomacy. Reid criticized Bush yesterday for failing to “launch any meaningful diplomatic efforts.” The fact that there is a regional conference means little if the U.S. chooses not to engage Iraq’s neighbors. An account from last month’s regional conference: “So they went, shook hands and chatted briefly. And that was the sum of the direct interaction between American and Iranian delegates at a long-awaited, day-long regional summit on Iraq today in Baghdad. … U.S. and Iranian officials said there were no private conversations of any substance.”
CHENEY: “Senator Reid said he doesn’t have real substantive meetings with the president. Yet immediately following last week’s meeting at the White House, he said, ‘It was a good exchange. Everyone voiced their considered opinion about the war in Iraq.’”
FACT: These two statements don’t contradict. In both, Reid simply says that Bush gave his opinion on Iraq. One is more diplomatic than the other, but they don’t contradict.
CHENEY: “What’s most troubling about Senator Reid’s comments yesterday is his defeatism. Indeed, last week he said the war is already lost. And the timetable legislation that he is now pursuing would guarantee defeat.”
FACT: Americans think Cheney is wrong. From a 4/19 Fox News poll: “[D]o you think it is accurate to compare withdrawal with surrender?” Yes: 33 percent | No: 61 percent
CNN’s Dana Bash reported that Cheney’s Capitol Hill press conference was “virtually unprecedented,” but that war critics “aren’t worried about it.” As one said in an email, “I wish Dick Cheney would come out every single day.”
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Wasn’t he supposed be at the Doctor’s office today. COME ON KUCINICH!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:15 pmI thought Kucinich said that Cheney had a medical crisis today?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmShouldn’t one of those blood clots be moving towards the brain?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmI think the clot has moved fom his leg to his brain.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmsorry to be picky, but that’s LITANY…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
April 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmI was actually disappointed there was no medical crisis.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmnever mind, i see you fixed it already
April 24th, 2007 at 4:19 pmIS THE SURGE BACKFIRING?
http://www.time.com/ time/ world/ article/ 0,8599,1614091,00.html?cnn=yes
April 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmMr. Cheney,
I would tell you to “go fcuk yourself” but that would require that at least one of the participants be a man, so you do not qualify.
Senator Reid,
Thank you Majority Leader Reid for speaking the truth and outlining realistic objectives and a strategy for ending the travesty that is known as the “Iraq War”.
It stops here!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:20 pmIsn’t he like at around 14 percent approval ?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmAfter all that he’s been directlly involved in . . . why he’s still in office I’m not sure.
Impeach already .
When Cheney comes out — you know the administration is feeling the pinch and needs to try to attack anyone about anything. This administration is in deep sh!t.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI’m not going to get into a name calling match with the administration’s chief attack dog,” Reid said.
Give em Hell Harry!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmBefore Cheney CAN be impeached, he will be retired “for medical reasons”…. Clearly, his DVT has migrated from his leg to his brain and is obscuring his thought processes. This guy’s a certified bull dog and no one is listening to his BS any longer. He’d be totally irrelevant and a lameduck right now and not worth Kucinich’s time to impeach except that when Dubya IS impeached, the american people certainly want nothing to do with Cheney becoming president. Both of these guys are known liars and losers….lameducks and irrelevant to the american people.
We need a “lack of confidence” vote of the american people regarding the continuation of having Bush & Cheney represent us.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pmI’m an American, and I know Cheney is wrong.
Give him hell, Harry. Don’t let “Dick” get away with this crap.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pm(Insert asinine contrary statement her)
April 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pm“I thought his speech yesterday was unfortunate, that his comments were uninformed and misleading,†Mr. Cheney said.
Kettle, meet pot.
“Leaders should make decisions based on the security interests of our country, not on the interests of their political party.â€
Pot, meet kettle.
Darth is on the warpath, as ever.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:24 pmYou know how they say people resemble their dogs?? Look at Cheney the next time he is regurgitating his drivel on television. He looks like either a pit bull or a bulldog and the only time he’s “unleashed” on the public is when the WH is is in deep doggie-doo! With Rove now going under investigation by the Office of Special Counsel, I’d say that they’re going to be mired in their own excrement for a very long time. I can catch a whiff of the acrid, sour aroma of decaying human excrement now!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmIMPEACH THIS MOTHER FU*KER ALREADY!!!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmYou know what would have made Cheney’s attack really, really effective?
If he hadn’t spent the last five years repeatedly lying and getting caught.
Nico, I think you missed the part where Dick Cheney reported that it has been confirmed that Harry Reid met with Mohammed Atta in Prague.
Oh, wait, nevermind, there has never been an attempt by the administration to link Harry Reid with defeatism. We just imagined that.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmHe’s on the ropes!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:26 pmHis doctors visit this morning appears to have been “leaked” as a medical crisis, just long enough for wind of it to go around Washington, and for Kucinich to cancel the impeachment press conference….
Check Chainee’s appointment record with the doctor, likely he made the appointment after learning Kucinich’s schedule………..
Is anyone sure Cheney hasn’t lied about his age on his paperwork? I’d swear his “effective age” is at least 15 years more than his “actual age” according to him. He looks like he’s approaching 80, for goodness sakes. There’s no fool like an “old fool” - especially when it’s the “old fool on the hill”.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pmMurtha on Cheney…
“I like guys who got five deferments and (have) never been there and send people to war, and then don’t like to hear suggestions about what needs to be done”
Cheney is no friend of the men and women who actually fight the wars that this Chickenhawk vice president so shamelessly — and disingenuously — promotes.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pmSee Darth Dance….See Darth Spew….Isn’t it going to be primo to watch The Dick, Cheney, in his new “lameduck impeachment dance”?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmIt’s like having Richard Speck come out as a public spokesman for lighter sentencing guidelines.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pm#11 - exaclty. When they have to pull the shooter out from his “undisclosed location”, you know things are getting desperate. I’m sure geirgey is busy having a tantrum because Harry Reid isn’t backing down
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pm“Cheney called Reid’s speech yesterday “uninformed and misleading.â€
This from a guy who keeps Faux News on wherever he goes.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pmAnyone (Bush) who would send Cheney (aka Mr. Credibility) out to attack the messenger is seriously out of touch with the American people.
Or they are drinking.
Or just desperate.
But we already knew that.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pmCheney’s runnin’ scared, I’d say if he resorts to using a fictitious appointment with his doctor as a lame excuse to quell Kucinich and the american public’s call for his head. It can wait until tomorrow although I briefly heard Wolf Blitzler blaring from the other room about the Cheney impeachment charges….stay tuned….this is going to be a really BEEG show!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pm“FACT: Americans think Cheney is wrong. From a 4/19 Fox News poll: “[D]o you think it is accurate to compare withdrawal with surrender?†Yes: 33 percent | No: 61 percent”
oh this is too much…..so thinkprogress.org and its liberal readers spent countless articles, and hours attacking Foxnews as not being a real news organization and having no legitimacy, yet they use a Foxnews poll in order to prove that thinkprogress.org is right?
HAHAHAHA!!! i knew it, thinkprogress.org does consider its liberal idiots to be useful fools that can be easily manipulated.
everything else that thinkprogress.org said against Cheney is half truths. Once again, though, thinkprogress.org is counting on its poorly educated liberal readers to not know this.
and about the poll, when day in and day out Americans are inundated with bad news from Iraq, most people will be convinced that things are going bad. Simple fact of life. When the media only shows one side of the coin, what do you expect Americans to believe. We all know, expect it seems thinkprogress.org and the wacky liberals, that if you only see one side of the coin, you are going to believe that only that side exists.
Most Americans get their news from the 30 minutes half hour news, do you really think this will educate Americans to fully know what is going on in Iraq? 2 minute clips of Iraq don’t educate anyone about iraq and when the 2 minute clip day in and day out is all bad….well what do you think will happen to public opinion.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pmYeparoo….5 Deferrment Cheney is on the ropes now!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI think every Dem, when referencing the Veep, should always call him “Crazy Dick Cheney” or “Crazy Cheney” or “our lovable by senile Vice President” or “Disaster Dick Cheney.”
April 24th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#24— excellent comparison. Any of you under thirty folks get that one? just curious
April 24th, 2007 at 4:32 pmAnd Cheney has been right about what in the failed war in Iraq?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:33 pmYeah, I’d like to see Cheney on TV every day also. Maybe Cheney and Rohrbacher and Boehner and William Kristol and Duncan Hunter can appear all together on TV so Americans can get a good look at them.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:33 pmhttp://www.latimes.com/ news/ opinion/ la-oe-mcgovern24apr24,0,4084076.story
Check it out….McGovern predicts that Cheney and Bush will be forced to resign.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:33 pmValiantthehater is struggling with reality, facts, and *honesty* again. Poor little thing, lies, smears, deceives and blames *libruls* for being the dishonest ones!
BAHAHAHAH, you’re such a st*pid little “useless idiot” Valiant!!! Dum bass!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:34 pmRaven,
Did Kucinich actually cancel for tomorrow?
See you in hell virulentvenereal (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 24th, 2007 at 4:35 pmMr. Bush
MUDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo)
This is typical of why the Democratic party is constantly on the defensive. The GOP knows that if they say something with enough authority, most Americans are stupid and will believe it is therefore true.
Now I don’t like the GOP at all, but come on Reid! If you’re going to lob a grenade statement like that, shouldn’t you do some homework and take this opportunity given to you in front of the camera to back it up?
Cheney gets up there and spews lies as usual in a very authoritative and confident way - obviously a prepared statement since he was reading it. And all Reid can do as a rebuttal is call Cheney Bush’s attack Dog? OUCH!
WTF - why didn’t Reid have a statement prepared with the facts that Thinkprogress has to rebuke Cheney?
Come on Dems! How about a little forethought on strategy? Other than lying, that is the only thing the GOP has to make it a formidable political party - a knowledgeable and working plan of strategy to pursue there own agenda. As much as DEMS and mod GOPS hate it, it works.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:36 pmPity party for VtH in 3, 2, 1…
“Boo-friggin-hoo you stupid old witch!”
April 24th, 2007 at 4:36 pmValiantthehater:
Not only that irony, but also Think Progress never cites to polling numbers that actually ask whether Americans want Iraq de-funded or not.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWe all know, expect it seems thinkprogress.org and the wacky liberals,
April 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by Valianttheeater — April 24, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
No, but we all see that MA/VV has taken another name.
Dayam gurl, eat a cheeseburger without regurgitating.
everything else that thinkprogress.org said against Cheney is half truths.
Links and/or articles please. I’d really love to see the other half of the truth.
Take you time in not researching your claim.
Now go inhale large amounts of flourocarbons at a gambling convention, all the while not eating.
HALLO ALL:veritas*nods*you always have some of the best and well thought out posts!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmRaven:what’s shaken?
Zooey:My Princess of Progress is here! How have you been?
TMM: Cheney is a douche :)
> He’s ( Cheney ) on the ropes!
I bet Reid would love to do a boxing match with Dick “Chickehawk’ Cheney since Harry was a former amateur middleweight boxer (and boxing judge)
http://www.flickr.com/ photos/ 23937375@N00/ 464536388/
April 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmHello, your time is important to me, I will post when the next thread isn’t about someone with rocks in his head. Thank you.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:40 pmSounds like Reid is in the comfort zone, padded by America’s hatred for Cheney and his failed war on terror.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:41 pmThese Neocons are going to regret not having a plan B to end terror.
Blue Healer:
That is all Reid could manage, at the same time claiming he was NOT getting into a name calling match, with the “CHIEF ATTACK DOG” LOL
April 24th, 2007 at 4:41 pmPost #2 was not authored by me.
Jake, you pathetic little coward, is this the only way you can win an argument?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmIt isn’t something we can poll the American people about. Withdrawing troops from an ongoing war is always defeat. Just because a large percentage of Americans don’t understand the meaning of defeat doesn’t mean that the Libs plan isn’t defeat. When Reid came out and said the troops lost the war and we need to withdraw from Iraq, how could anyone read that any other way then that the Libs feel the troops lost the war and we need to retreat. Please put your political spin on this to make it look like retreating and calling our military a loser somehow a victory. I really want to see that spin.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmHarry Reid said the King is naked. All the King’s horses and all the King’s men lay the blame solely Harry for the King’s poor choice of tailors.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmThink Progress never cites to polling numbers that actually ask whether Americans want Iraq de-funded or not.
Comment by Frankie Matthews Goes To Hollywood — April 24, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
Hi, Jake. Care to continue cutting and pasting someone elses war profile?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmHow come Think Progress never cites to polling numbers about how pathetic you name changing trolls are?
km4:
Reid also violated ethics rules by accepting boxing tickets.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmShooter shoots himself in mouth!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:43 pm-film @ 11:00
VoteVets Shows Support for Reid; Right Wing Meltdown Ongoing
April 24th, 2007 at 4:43 pmhttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/4/24/141541/869
#37……..Mr. Bush Goes to hell…………….
April 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmI don’t know anything about when Kucinich rescheduled his press conference, all I know is that he canceled the one for today at noon.. apologies if I wasn’t clear.
“Jake” Matthews! You came BACK!
So, tell us ALL:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission?
i.e. SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO AMERICA about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens & the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS?
I say it is TREASON by these WAR CRIMINALS.
Come on, “frank”!!
BRING IT ON!!!
See you in hell “frank” (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo)
Just once, could that Dick be right about something so I could get a real debate.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:45 pmAh yes, ol’ “Last Thoroes” Cheney claiming a Dem is being misleading. That’s a big shock. Cheney has been WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING ON IRAQ! Get it rolling, Dennis. Let’s hold this lying sack accountable.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pm#42. whiteyfresh…
tailfeathers
April 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pmFrank Matthews,
I hope this formats correctly
Here is a poll about the funding. It’s from USATODAY
Which of these comes closest to your opinion? (1) Congress should block all funding for the war in Iraq no matter what. OR, (2) Congress should allow funding only for a limited period of time. OR, (3) Congress should allow all funding for the war in Iraq without a time limit.”
Block All Time Limit No Limit Unsure
6% 61% 30% 3%
“Which of these comes closest to your opinion? (1) Congress should allow all funding for the war in Iraq without a time limit. OR, (2) Congress should allow funding only for a limited period of time. OR, (3) Congress should block all funding for the war in Iraq no matter what.”
No Limit Time Limit Block All Unsure
28% 55% 12% 5%
Here’s the link.
http://www.pollingreport.com/iraq.htm
April 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pmReid also violated ethics rules by accepting boxing tickets.
Comment by Frank Matthews
And how many people died as a result?
Besides, the tix were gifted BEFORE legislation passed banning such gifting, hence, using the tix was NOT a violation.
You are as dense as the war is long, aren’t you Frankie-poo?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pmWhy didn’t Bush and Cheney swear to tell the truth concerning 9/11? Very troubling indeed.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pmI think a lot of the ethics violations and debates are made as distractions to continually deplete the treasury (or increase the debt). This environmental video from the 1992 UN conference seems to explain most of the current issues:
http://video.google.com/ videoplay?docid=-6642758020554799808
April 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmZooey:My Princess of Progress is here! How have you been?
Comment by whiteyfresh
Hello whitey, my dear. How is the mouth? Back to the Captain Crunch?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmHis blood has been so thinned out that his mechanical signaling device for his heart can’t get the blood to his head to think clearly. For all we know, all his lunatic speeches could be a side affect of his medications.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:49 pm#51 Oh my God! Really! why didn’t someone say that sooner. That’s by far the worst thing someone could do, I guess you’ve been right all along.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:49 pmAaand maybe this would mean something if Cheney weren’t widely considered to be a raving, lying hosebeast.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pmRoger,
Your being blatantly dishonest. Find the quote where Reid said the “Troops lost the war.”
Find it, or quit saying it. It’s very deceptive of you to keep saying that when you know it isn’t true. Argue the merits or move on.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pmI am not Jake or TripMaster Monkey. I’m smarter than both of them combined.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pmThe new Repuke talking point is Democrats want to “surrender”
I heard that Stepford beeyotch Dana Perino say it the other day.
Surrender means our troops lose the battle and yield to the enemy in the field. White flag and all that.
Redeployment out of Iraq is not surrendering, our troops were never beaten in Iraq. It is just time for them to get out of Iraq.
So, the Repukes are insulting our troops by saying they will “surrender” in Iraq. Repukes hate our troops!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pm“When Reid came out and said the troops lost the war and we need to withdraw from Iraq, how could anyone read that any other way then that the Libs feel the troops lost the war and we need to retreat. Please put your political spin on this to make it look like retreating and calling our military a loser somehow a victory. I really want to see that spin.
Comment by Roger_Roger — April 24, 2007 @ 4:42 pm”
Hey Roger square head…….
Reid NEVER said the “troops lost the war”!!!!!
He said the war was lost because of the Political stategy of this administration.
Stop with the talking points and twisting what is said to suit your needs.
Please provide the video of where Reid said the “troops lost the war”.
You can’t, so STFU!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:51 pmRoger is a lying sack of crap Repuke troll.
Reid’s exact quote is “Iraq is lost”. Not our troops lost it or we lost it.
It is time to cut our losses and get out. It is the only sane thing to do.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:51 pmZooey: oh GOD NO! I still have some heavy duty soreness at times, but to quote the Beatles “It’s get-ting bet-ter all the time..It’s getting betterrrr ooohh AAAAAHHHH…..”
:)
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmFrank, I don’t know if you’re smarter, but at least they have a mind of their own.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmWhen the Repuke trolls only got boxing tickets, you know they’e on the ropes.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmPost #6 isn’t mine, either.
Apparently, I’ll need to start PGP-signing all my posts to insure authenticity. Thanks, TP, for making abuses like this possible.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:54 pmCrump’s Brother:
Even I think Congress should appropriate Iraq funding only for a limited period of time — one year at a time.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:54 pm#48
What Reid said: “I believe myself that the secretary of state, secretary of defense and — you have to make your own decisions as to what the president knows — (know) this war is lost and the surge is not accomplishing anything as indicated by the extreme violence in Iraq yesterday,”
Big difference between that and “the troops lost the war”. It’s obvious to anyone with a brain that Bush and his administration have bungled this war from the beginning.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:54 pmTom3:
What percentage of Americans agree with you and Reid that “Iraq is lost”? Last I checked, it was a whopping 9%.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:57 pmRoger_Roger,
Uh, but we ARE defeated. It took us less time to defeat Nazi Germany AND Japan in WWII than this futile mess in Iraq, and we’re NOT EVEN CLOSE to being proclaimed the victor. Sure, it took us no time at all to topple the Ba’ath party, because that was an easily defined enemy with specific targets to take out. Fighting a concept like “terror” is way more difficult, because 1. You perpetuate the culture of martyrdom present in Islamic extremism by continuing to fight and kill, 2. Kill one, and ten are ready to jump in and take their place, and 3. These terrorist organizations are far too fluid and lacking in structure to easily identify.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:57 pmWho the h*ll is Reid to call VP Cheney an “attack dog”… didn’t he call Pres. Bush a loser in front of high school students?
And from the same article:
Of course, stuff like this is what I’ve come to expect from the Dem party and most of the people here on TP (re: #’s 3, 4, 5, 9, 17… oh h*ll, most of them) There’re very few who are able to have a civil conversation without resorting to personal attacks.
And if you’re honest, you’ll agree that this does not bode well for the future of our country, no matter *what* side you’re on.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:57 pm#75, even *I* am starting to wish TP would get a registration system… how the h*ll am I able to get p*ssed at TMM if I can’t be sure which posts are his and which aren’t? :-)
April 24th, 2007 at 4:59 pmTom3:
My point about the boxing tickets was not a major one but countered the false bravado that Harry Reid the former boxer and ref was going to take on Dick Cheney (who would bring his shotgun to that fight ; )
April 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pmOkay, so it’s more difficult. Do you think the answer is to pull back and quit fighting them?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:00 pmIF Cheney HAD a heart, that clot might have killed him already.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:01 pmThis guy is a pit bull, and he’s full of bull too. He has no creditablility left yet he continues to attack people who disagrees with. Apparently dumbass doesn’t think history is looking when he makes these stupid statements. He will go down in history as the worst VP in history, but that means nothing to a man like him. He’s not only a COWARD, but a lying coward. He wanted to start this war and lied to get us into it. But during Viet Nam he was afraid to fight, so he hid behind his wifes skirt. He should be the last to criticize anyone. But that’s a chicken hawk for you.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pmFrank Matthews is another Repuke troll.
What percentage of Americans agree with Reid that we should get the hell out of Iraq?
70%.
Go back under your bridge, Frank.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pmDale:
But you know that TMM was thinking that though, don’t you?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pmEvery time a social program is cut, a tax cut is given and a penny spent in Iraq, the future of America go farther down the drain. Be a real American and admit this administration is not working for us.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:03 pmDale,
You make a valid point that personal attacks should stop, you should not do it with such a blanket statement that nearly all the Dem party does this. That would be like me saying that you are no different from Roger_Roger who insists that Harry Reid said “the troops lost the warâ€. I don’t blame all my right-wing countrymen of such blatant intellectual dishonesty. You should give us the same courtesy.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“There’re very few who are able to have a civil conversation without resorting to personal attacks.
And if you’re honest, you’ll agree that this does not bode well for the future of our country, no matter *what* side you’re on.
Comment by Dale — April 24, 2007 @ 4:57 pm”
You mean like MOST Republicans do??????
Ever hear of Bush, Cheney, Delay, Orilley, Malkin, etc…..
Take your Republican a$$ somewhere else to complain about name calling!!!!
Progressives have TRIED to play nice for over 10 years….. But YOU HYPOCRITES have done nothing but played dirty and nasty all the way….. Don’t complain because the gloves come off and your now getting a bloody nose.
If you can’t take the heat, then get the hell out of the kitchen.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:05 pmwhere’s the Kucinich press conference for impeachment of Cheney? I cant find it anywhere
Comment by old hack — April 24, 2007 @ 3:52 pm
Nobody would have listened to Cheney today if he hadn’t had his shotgun in one hand and a flask in the other.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:06 pmCrump’s Bro, that’s all they know. think about it. Where do they gey their news.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pm“I’m an American, and I know Cheney is wrong.
Give him hell, Harry. Don’t let “Dick†get away with this crap.
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007″
Child care get out early zooey?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pmComment by Valiantthehater — April 24, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
arf, arf, arf …. arf, arf, arf … grrrrowllll … arf, arf, arf
April 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pmmichael links to mann coulter.
michael is a repuke closet case, he has the hots for a man in a dress.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:08 pmGo git her, michael!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:09 pmThe only way to stop the personal attacks is to FIRE every single right wing commentator in the media.
They are ALL making personal attacks on a regular basis. They’ve been villifying liberals and the Democratic party for years. They use lies and spin and NEVER tell the truth.
Personal attacks? That’s a Repuke tactic.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:10 pm“Okay, so it’s more difficult. Do you think the answer is to pull back and quit fighting them?
Comment by Dale — April 24, 2007 @ 5:00 pm”
Fight WHO?????
Who are the terrorists?????
Obviously, no one can identify them through military force or they would be gone by now……
ALL terrorists need to be identified through Investigative means……
I guess you think the best way to identify the bank robber is to blow up the entire bank???
Otherwise how do you know who the bank robber is?????
The “insurgents” are mostly Iraqi’s and they are attacking groups opposite of themselves….. This is not something we can deal with MILITARILY!!!!!
Since YOU never served in the military, I’m assuming since your a Republican and for this war, YOU obviously have no idea what the military trains for…..
Here is a HINT….. It’s not fighting a CIVIL WAR between factions in another country.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:11 pmOh dear, the attack dog has little puppies doing his dirty work.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:11 pmBack on topic though, I thought this was far more damaging to Reid (no wonder why Think Progress left it out):
“THE VICE PRESIDENT: I usually avoid press comment when I’m up here, but I felt so strongly about what Senator Reid said in the last couple of days, that I thought it was appropriate that I come out today and make a statement that I think needs to be made.
I thought his speech yesterday was unfortunate, that his comments were uninformed and misleading. Senator Reid has taken many positions on Iraq. He has threatened that if the President vetoes the current pending supplemental legislation, that he will send up Senator Russ Feingold’s bill to de-fund Iraq operations altogether.
Yet only last November, Senator Reid said there would be no cutoff of funds for the military in Iraq. So in less than six months’ time, Senator Reid has gone from pledging full funding for the military, then full funding but with conditions, and then a cutoff of funding — three positions in five months on the most important foreign policy question facing the nation and our troops.”
http://www.whitehouse.gov/ news/ releases/ 2007/ 04/ 20070424-10.html
April 24th, 2007 at 5:11 pmReid was CORRECT. Bush IS a LOSER.
A corrupt little silver-spoon TRAITOR coxucker PUNK of a LOSER!
Tell us, “dale”,
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission?
i.e. SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO AMERICA about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens & the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS?
I say it is TREASON by these WAR CRIMINALS.
Come on, “daleâ€!!
BRING IT ON!!!
See you in hell “dale†(cause I’LL be THERE),
April 24th, 2007 at 5:12 pmMichael,
April 24th, 2007 at 5:12 pmYou need to beat your wife/girlfriend before posting here. Your tension is overwhelming, painfully abundant.
And please have the courtesy to give Frankie-poo the reach-around once in a while.
He’s very desperate.
Do I agree with TMM? No. Have I seen him make comments like this? Yes. But do I *know* that he made this one? No, and I won’t assume otherwise.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:13 pmEnough Penguin - Bring on Batman!!!!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:13 pmFrank, welcome Michael to the short sighted club, “Child care get out early zooey?” How adolesent.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:14 pmHmm, does the USAF count? 445X0G, stationed at Minot AFB? As usual RemoveBush, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Now begone, child.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:15 pmFrank Matthews,
The problem with quoting Cheney is that he has zero credibility with American people anymore. Approval rating around 18% or some craziness. He’s been wrong about everything with regards to this war, and words carry little to no weight when he is speaking.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:15 pmHasn’t that question been answered several times, Mr. Bush Goes To Hell, by the very people Tom3 claims are never subjected to personal attacks around these here parts?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:17 pm“michael links to mann coulter.
michael is a repuke closet case, he has the hots for a man in a dress.
Comment by Tom3 — April 24, 2007″
Is that how you would debate her?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThe Emperor grows restless - the Rebel Alliance threatens his bid for total dominance, so Darth Cheney is called to crush them like beetles.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:18 pmWhy are you trolls even on here, we’re talking about numbskulls like you. Sorry everybody, I don’t like to name call but how describe these people.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:18 pmChild care get out early zooey?
Comment by michael
________________
Zookeeper gone for the day, michael? You are obviously the missing link that evolutionists have been searching for.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:19 pm“The only way to stop the personal attacks is to FIRE every single right wing commentator in the media.
They are ALL making personal attacks on a regular basis. They’ve been villifying liberals and the Democratic party for years. They use lies and spin and NEVER tell the truth.
Personal attacks? That’s a Repuke tactic.
Comment by Tom3 — April 24, 2007″
Can you provide some examples and prove they’re lies?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:19 pmKucinich just announced the beginning of the imminent impeachment. Well I’m optimistic.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:20 pmDale, Bush served too didn’t he. Be gone.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:20 pmMichael,
She’s not worth debating. Why debate someone who stoops to personal attacks so quickly? Especially personal attacks to people who aren’t present to defend themselves. Not that anyone should have to defend themself against a woman whose only claim to fame is being as offensive as possible in the name of book sales.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:22 pm“Hmm, does the USAF count? 445X0G, stationed at Minot AFB? As usual RemoveBush, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Now begone, child.”
And slightly earlier,
“There’re very few who are able to have a civil conversation without resorting to personal attacks.”
So Dale, I must assume that calling an adult a child is not a personnel attack? Hypocrite - and that would be what’s called a fact.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:23 pm“Reid was CORRECT. Bush IS a LOSER.
A corrupt little silver-spoon TRAITOR coxucker PUNK of a LOSER!
Tell us, “daleâ€,
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO TESTIFY UNDER OATH to the 9/11 Commission?
i.e. SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO AMERICA about their involvement with 9/11, the Bin Ladens & the Saudi TERRORIST FINANCIERS?
I say it is TREASON by these WAR CRIMINALS.
Come on, “daleâ€!!
BRING IT ON!!!
See you in hell “dale†(cause I’LL be THERE),
Comment by Mr. Bush Goes To Hell — April 24, 2007″
Get back in your child care class with zooey!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:23 pmCrump’s Brother:
That may be a “problem” for the logically-handicapped Bush-haters and those who spit out ad hominem instead of arguments. But, there is no denying the FACT that Senator Reid has taken many positions on Iraq. He HAS threatened that if the President vetoes the current pending supplemental legislation, that he will send up Senator Russ Feingold’s bill to de-fund Iraq operations altogether. Less than six months ago, Senator Reid said there would be NO cutoff of funds for the military in Iraq.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:23 pmHALLO ALL:veritas*nods*you always have some of the best and well thought out posts!
Raven:what’s shaken?
Zooey:My Princess of Progress is here! How have you been?
TMM: Cheney is a douche :)
Comment by whiteyfresh — April 24, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
To paraphrase “When Harry Met Sally”:
“I’ll have what he’s having.”
April 24th, 2007 at 5:23 pmOh yeah….it’s Michael1, Firehead, Jake, and now Frank Matthews - one in the same, schizophrenic troll!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pm“Child care get out early zooey?†How adolesent.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — April 24, 2007″
You wouldn’t understand.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pmMichael, ever heard of Mediamatters.org., take a night of from O’Rielly and check it out.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pmCheney & Bush refused to testify to the 911 commission because it was an “inside job”… the critical mass is realizing that.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:25 pmTom3,
Wouldn’t you regard a phrase like “repuke”, to be a personal attack?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:25 pmDale - as in Chip’n Dales?? Suppose so from the ridiculousness of the posts.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:25 pm“Hmm, does the USAF count? 445X0G, stationed at Minot AFB? As usual RemoveBush, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Now begone, child.
Comment by Dale — April 24, 2007″
They’re all children!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:26 pmComment by michael
**YAWN**
You just can’t help but bring down the average IQ here at TP, huh?
And always with the answering a questing with a question?!
Who’s more likely to need child care, Zooey’s kids or YOU?
Now kindly, f*ck off.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:27 pmWithdrawing troops from an ongoing war is always defeat
Comment by Roger_Roger — April 24, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
Says who? You? Is this a war or an occupation? Withdrawing troops from an occupation, would that be defeat or redeployment?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:28 pmFrank Matthews,
Why is it that it is a popsition of strength never to change your mind? Do you feel Cheney is more reputable because he has refused to back track on all of his mistakes in regards to the war?
I would have much rather he realized how wrong he got it, apologize, and help to mitigate the disaster. But he wont.
While I agree that Reid’s position has changed, so has the position of the American people. It is the job of our elected officials to promote our agenda,is it not?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:29 pmReid also violated ethics rules by accepting boxing tickets.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
Republicans worrying about Reid’s ethics violations, aaaaghhahahahaha. That’s rich.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“She’s not worth debating.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — April 24, 2007″
She’s not? In my opinion anyone who I disagree with is worth debating unless of course I knew I would get creamed! And that is exactly what she would do to any one of you liberal dopes on this blog!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:30 pm“Hmm, does the USAF count? 445X0G, stationed at Minot AFB? As usual RemoveBush, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Now begone, child.
Comment by Dale — April 24, 2007 @ 5:15 pm”
Then pretell……. In what military training class is it that I was suppose to receive that I never did that trained me on CIVIL WAR in a foriegn country?????
What is it that our military is suppose to do in regards to this??? They are NOT POLICE!!!!!
Oh wise one, enlighten us with your ignorance more…
April 24th, 2007 at 5:30 pmSomebody kick this grumpy old prick in the shins…
April 24th, 2007 at 5:31 pmTypical. predictable, and typical.
Doesn’t anyone in our glorious sanctified christian boot licking
government ever say, or do, any thing original?
All of this useless rhetoric is so predictable nowadays.
We certainly can’t fault any of them with original thought.
This “Surge” was meant to do one thing, and one thing only.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:32 pmIncrease the body bag count. In that respect, the “Surge”
is a smashing success. Its good to see the republicans tow
the Party line so well. More of the same in Iraq, is sure to
bring the Final Victory (which equates to a totally cowed Iraqi
population) and secure Oil contracts for our beloved Oil
Oligarchs in the West.
“Michael, ever heard of Mediamatters.org., take a night of from O’Rielly and check it out.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — April 24, 2007″
Yes I have and I’ve been banned! It seems they don’t want people who don’t tow their liberal line asking pointed questions!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:32 pmMichael,
It’s like saying it would be worth it to debate a kid on the playground concerning worldly affairs. It might be fun for a laugh, but it would be pretty pointless. At the moment she realized that once again (as she was with al franken) completely outclassed, she would call me a “faggot” or something similar. Then would attempt to make light of a patently homophobic remark by calling it satire and saying she was just kidding. No thanks
April 24th, 2007 at 5:35 pmMichael, Congratulations! You are finally right about something. But don’t brag because I don’t understand people who stand against America.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:35 pmI will eat your children, for breakfast, lunch and dinner, especially if they’re MUSLIM.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:36 pmYou are living in the dark ages.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:37 pmCrump’s Bro, there is a reason some people are homophobic. See they have to think about it, and they are afraid they are going to “catch gay”.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:42 pmCrump’s Brother:
I don’t think it is a position of strength to never change one’s mind, based on evidence, of course. What exactly has CHANGED in Iraq in the last five months. You know, as well as I do, that Reid said what he said BEFORE the election so as to maximize votes. He’s saying what he’s saying now to maximize votes as well. Who knows which “position” he actually believes? If you think that is “promot[ing] your agenda” then I guess that’s all that counts for you. In the end, I want our elected officials to do the right thing and protect our country, popular or not.
And, that’s why I believe Bush / Cheney are more reputable despite the mistakes made. We obviously disagree about how wrong they got it, whether to apologize, and want to do from here on out.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:43 pm“I will eat your children, for breakfast, lunch and dinner, especially if they’re MUSLIM.
Comment by michael — April 24, 2007 @ 5:36 pm”
TYPICAL “Family Value”, God Loving, War mongering Republican……..
Everyone take a look….. michael is a TYPICAL Republican, and is showing the world what the politicians would love to say but won’t because they would lose thier seats for sure…..
I say we kill ALL people who are religious!!!!!!
This way, there will be no people around who can use thier religion for killing…..
How about that michael????
April 24th, 2007 at 5:45 pmCan you provide some examples and prove they’re lies?
Comment by michael — April 24, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
We’re not supplying you lackey trolls with anything. Go watch Fox News and if you can’t figure it out then f**k you.
The number of trolls here is indicative of how deep the doodoo is that administration is swimming in.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:46 pm“Reid my lips: NO NEW VICTORIES.”
April 24th, 2007 at 5:46 pmSure… but first, can you admit that you were wrong when you assumed that I wasn’t in the military?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:47 pmWar Prognosticator and Real Estate Guru Harry “My Money’s Not Dingy, It’s Laundered” Reid (D-NV) has a chance to do the right thing. For the good of the country, and most importantly, for the good of the Senate, Harry Read Must Resign.
There’s a cloud. It’s troubling. I’m concerned.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:47 pmFrank Matthews,
Well I guess we can agree to disagree. I want the troops out. If the only to do that is to defund all the way, then I’m for that. I think this war has made us less safe. I think it has been a beacon call for Islamic extremism. We had no good reason for going in, and now I think we have all to many good reasons to get out. Not the least of which is the safety of our homeland, our troops, and our treasure.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:49 pmYou’re correct Yikes… I never should’ve called him/her a child.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:49 pmMichael you are suffering from a very bad case of BDS ! I would advise you to have it checked out very soon,before you turn into a complete babbling,drooling fool!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:51 pmheh…
check out this graphic… it just struck me funny…
http://www3.whdh.com:80/ news/ articles/ national/ BO50162/
April 24th, 2007 at 5:53 pm…
Harry Reid has ADMITTED that his mother worked in several WHORE houses, and I suspect Reid’s testiness is due to him not knowing who his father is.
Reid sounds more appropriate for a quilt social than the Senate - he should get a man’s voice.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:57 pmFrank: “What exactly has CHANGED in Iraq in the last five months.”
Is this a trick question? OK, I’ll bite. Is the answer “more casulties and more suicide bombings?”
April 24th, 2007 at 5:58 pmJason,
Nice comment.
Way to raise the level of debate.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:02 pmSince the Democrats have been fighting on the side of the terrorists for years, I assume that Harry Reid’s announcement that “this war is lost” is refers to how things are going for them.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:05 pmIt’s not a trick question. We’ve faced casualties and suicide bombings since the start of the war. Nice try though.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:06 pmNo. 40 Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 4:37 pm
“Valiantthehater:
Not only that irony, but also Think Progress never cites to polling numbers that actually ask whether Americans want Iraq de-funded or not.”
Pssst, Valiant. You’re talking to yourself again. You really should be more careful about doing it in public. You know, you can warts on your hands if you keep that up.
BTW, I like your new handle. Maybe we shouldn’t have that renaming contest after all. Glad you agreed with my sentiments on your name the other day. This one sounds so, so… er… macho. Good for you sweetie, Appearance is everything you know.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:07 pmWithdrawing troops from an ongoing war is always defeat
Comment by Roger_Roger — April 24, 2007 @ 4:42 pm
Roger Rabbit has his Risk board out again. Man, I bet Hitler wishes he had a strategist like you during Stalingrad…..
April 24th, 2007 at 6:09 pmREAD THIS
ANKARA, Turkey - The United States and other world powers may be ready to allow Iran to keep some of its uranium enrichment program intact instead of demanding its complete dismantling, foreign government officials said Tuesday.
The United States might accept a version of “cold standby” — allowing a set number of centrifuges to remain standing and assembled in series but not running, a diplomat said. Iran, he said, would likely push for keeping the machines operating, if not producing enriched uranium.
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070424/ ap_on_re_mi_ea/ nuclear_iran;_ylt=AhsNtWle5iBx6E1HeoyhtFjMWM0F
AMERICA HAS BEEN OUTFOXED SISTANI - - BY THE IRAQ WAR _ … we wore America down till its useless …………. HA HA HA HA
April 24th, 2007 at 6:10 pm“What exactly has CHANGED in Iraq in the last five months?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:15 pmWell, for one thing, the War in Iraq has LOST the support of the American People. And that would be because things are getting Worse…not Better…and Voters don’t believe that “turning the corner” argument. It has been trotted out one too many times.
Merlin:
You think I am Valiantthehater? Then who is “Jake”?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:15 pmReid sounds more appropriate for a quilt social than the Senate - he should get a man’s voice. Comment by Jason M. Hendler — April 24, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
That’s really funny, considering Valiant Venus (when she thought I was you), said you were the wimpiest girlyish man she’s seen in ages. Sounds like your own inferiority complex hendler..
April 24th, 2007 at 6:18 pmFor all the troglodyte trolls on this board: 1.What has this administration been right about in the past four years?
2. Why aren’t you in the military or at least on your way to the recruiter?
You are most probably cowards like Dubya the AWOL coward and Dick Cheney the five deferment coward.
There are not enough Republican veterans to make a squad, much less fight a war. GOP= Crooks, Liars, and Cowards…Chickenshit Chickenhawks.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:18 pmHas anyone else here tried latex underwear? I prefer the panties, especially after I fill them with loads of poo.
Adult diaper party?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:21 pmO.K., Badger, good one. The anti-war shrieking has bumped up polling a few percentage points. That’s at least a “change” technically. Now, should FDR have pulled out of World War II because of a couple point change in polling data?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:25 pmDamnit,
There’s the OTHER Frank again. Now where’s the 3rd?
Frankkk???? Frankie? Frankles??
No Franks.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:26 pmOK, we’ve established that Frank doesn’t think increased American deaths and increased suicide bombings is a big enough issue to be included in his sweeping question, “what has changed in recent months.” Great, Frank. Nice values.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:27 pmThis guy makes Agnew look like JFK.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:33 pmWithdrawal without vanquishing the enemy IS surrender, Nico. No matter how much lipstick you put on that pig of an argument, it’s still a pig. (At the predictable question: “So you think 61% of the polled Americans are wrong?”
April 24th, 2007 at 6:37 pmAnswer: “Yes….BUT if they are public school grads and came to this conclusion, an allowance can be made!”)
Who is the enemy? And don’t say the terrorists. Are they Sunni or Shia?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:39 pmshould FDR have pulled out of World War II because of a couple point change in polling data?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:45 pmWorld war II was fought against Fascism, and against an enemy that Attacked America. The war in Iraq was fought for …WMD…Make that Ties to Al Qaeda…er make that Brutal Dictator..er Make that Democracy. Anyhow…Iraq NEVER attacked us. Saddam was boxed in, and the Box has become a Pandora’s Box. Cheney’s own arguments against Invading Baghdad in 1991 were both persuasive and Prescient.
One of the things that you have to appreciate about Messrs. Bush and Cheney is the business opportunities they have created as a result of their own actions. Since the flammability of one’s trousers is in inverse proportion to the veracity of one’s statements, sales of asbestos trousers have skyrocketed and these items have now become a hot item on the stock market.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:49 pmSo, Badger, does that mean FDR should or shouldn’t have pulled out of World War II because of a couple point change in polling data?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:55 pmDuring World war II, Every ABLE BODIED MAN was in the fight for the DURATION. NO FIVE Deferments. NO Texas national Guard. World War II HAD the support of the American people….Period.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:59 pm“You mean like MOST Republicans do??????
Ever hear of Bush, Cheney, Delay, Orilley, Malkin, etc…..
Comment by RemoveBush — April 24, 2007″
What about them?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:01 pm“Why are you trolls even on here, we’re talking about numbskulls like you. Sorry everybody, I don’t like to name call but how describe these people.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — April 24, 2007″
And it seems that name calling is your best debating skill because you haven’t exhibited any others!
April 24th, 2007 at 7:04 pmYes or no, Badger?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:06 pm“I’m not going to get into a name calling match with the administration’s chief attack dog,†Reid said.”
So explain to me how calling Cheney is not getting into a “name calling” match?
Once again the stupid thug loving US troop hater Reid speaks in one sentence two opposing points of view!
I watched the Biased CBS news conveniently show all of Cheney in a bad light and when Reid comes up, the drop that statement!
How convenient! How biased! How typical!
The MSM, the politically motivated Dems with Reid in the forefront just don’t get it!
These idiots are nothing more than shills for the thugs and barbarians. Read what a true soldier in Iraq has to say about Harry Reid…
This Email To Me, Harry, And America, Direct From A Grunt On The Front Lines Of Ramadi, Is Just Hours Old.
Corporal Tyler Rock, 1/6 Charlie Company, on the left, at my old home, Camp Hurricane Point, Ramadi.
“yeah i know how you feel. its going to be very weird leaving this place and going back to america. weve been here for almost an entire year and have lived in the center of it the whole time. its crazy that when we got here it was so hectic and now its calmed down so much. so it was awesome to be able to see that turn out.
yeah news worth reporting…. well ramadi was once dubbed by everyone as the worst city in the world. but we have done such a great job here that all the families in the area have worked with us on driving out the insurgency and that we work directly with the IA and the IP’s. the city has been cleaned up so well that the IP’s do most of the patrols now and we go out with them to hand out candy and toys to the children. you can tell that the people want us here to protect them from the thugs and gangs (insurgents). granted they would rather have peace and quit but they know that if we arent here they will be thrown around by the insurgents. a good example is this one mission we did. long story short we got blown up in multiple buildings and had to run into a families house. i spent my christmas holidays covered in ash from the mortar fire and the IED’s, sleeping under a dirty rug i found in the house. everyone was sleeping way to close for comfort just to stay warm. anyways. a family was there and they obviously didnt want us there. atleast at first. the daughters were very sick so our corpsman treated them. they didnt have electricity so we got them a generator for power, they were cold so we got them gas heaters, we got them food and water and then we gave them $500. by the end of the week long visit with them we were drinking tea with them. when we left we cleaned their house better than it was when we got there. i even have pictures with the family. they told us that they liked marines and they would help us as much as they could and they gave us some information on the insurgents in the area. we ended up catching a HUGE target down the road from there house because of it.
yeah and i got a qoute for that douche harry reid. these families need us here. obviously he has never been in iraq. or atleast the area worth seeing. the parts where insurgency is rampant and the buildings are blown to pieces. we need to stay here and help rebuild. if iraq didnt want us here then why do we have IP’s voluntering everyday to rebuild their cities. and working directly with us too. same with the IA’s. it sucks that iraqi’s have more patriotism for a country that has turned to complete shit more than the people in america who drink starbucks everyday. we could leave this place and say we are sorry to the terrorists. and then we could wait for 3,000 more american civilians to die before we say “hey thats not nice†again. and the sad thing is after we WIN this war. people like him will say he was there for us the whole time.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:07 pmand for messages back home. i have a wife back home who is going through a tough time. i just cant wait to be back home and see everyone. haha and i cant wait to go back home and get some starbucks. i love it when those people serve me. hahahaâ€
NO!!!!! In the first place, polling was not as ubiquitous as Now. And..If FDR had suggested we quit world war II, he certainly wouldn’t have been reelected 4 times, and probably would have been impeached. AND….Remember that congress actually DECLARED WAR back then.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:11 pm“It’s like saying it would be worth it to debate a kid on the playground concerning worldly affairs. It might be fun for a laugh, but it would be pretty pointless. At the moment she realized that once again (as she was with al franken) completely outclassed, she would call me a “faggot†or something similar. Then would attempt to make light of a patently homophobic remark by calling it satire and saying she was just kidding. No thanks
Comment by Crump’s Brother — April 24, 2007″
It’s so easy to throw rocks from a distance. A kid on the playground? Ha, ha ha, ha! She’s an accomplished Constitutional lawyer and was part of a group of lawyers who got Clinton impeached! You, and ANY liberal on this blog, would be a toy for her. Just read some of your nuty comments!
April 24th, 2007 at 7:14 pmThank you, Badger. Finally! That was like pulling teeth. We at least agree that FDR should not have pulled out of WWII because of a couple point drop in the polls. We’ll have to agree to disagree on Iraq.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:26 pm“Can you provide some examples and prove they’re lies?”
Comment by michael — April 24, 2007 @ 5:19 pm
Dick Cheney said this: