Iglesias Reveals He Filed Complaint Against Rove, Leading To Special Counsel Probe
Iglesias Reveals He Filed Complaint Against Rove, Leading To Special Counsel Probe
Tonight on MSNBC, fired U.S. Attorney David Iglesias revealed key new details about the Office of Special Counsel’s (OSC) probe into Karl Rove and other White House officials reported today by the Los Angeles Times.
Iglesias said that on April 3, he filed a Hatch Act complaint with the OSC, charging that Karl Rove and others may have violated the law by firing him over his failure to initiate partisan-motivated prosecutions. Iglesias said he subsequently spoke with OSC chief Scott Bloch, who made clear that he was planning to launch an investigation. Despite suggestions that the White House may have initiated the OSC investigation to obstruct parallel congressional probes, Iglesias expressed confidence in Bloch.
Iglesias also said that while evidence of Rove’s potential illegal actions is currently only circumstantial, “I believe if OSC digs in, they can get direct evidence.”
[T]he Justice Department papers everything. I mean, the most minute issue has an incredible researched and memoed product. There has to be a paper trail. I haven’t seen it yet. If it’s not at the Justice Department, it has got to be at the White House.
Finally, Iglesias said he believes that Monica Goodling — former counsel to Alberto Gonzales and the Justice Department’s liaison to the White House — holds the “keys to the kingdom” in terms of uncovering the roots of the U.S. Attorney purge, since she can describe the communication that took place between the White House and the Justice Department.
Below, key excerpts from Iglesias’ interview:
Iglesias filed a Hatch Act complaint against several White House officials, likely leading to the Office of Special Counsel probe.
MATTHEWS: Was your complaint to the Office of Special Counsel the reason for this investigation of Karl Rove?
IGLESIAS: It could have started the ball rolling, yes. It’s is something I filed back on April 3 of this year…based on, you know, Special Counsel having powers to investigate where evidence goes. I actually filed a Hatch Act complaint against Gonzales, McNulty, Sampson and Goodling and they’re already getting documents from the Justice Department and possibly from the White House. […]
MATTHEWS: Do you believe the investigators, have they talked to you at all, have the people at the office — has Scott Bloch talked to you at all?
IGLESIAS: Yes. I had a conversation with Mr. Bloch and his deputy and two other attorneys approximately three weeks ago.
MATTHEWS: And did that lead you to believe they were going to act like they have?
IGLESIAS: Yes, yes. Yes, it did.
MATTHEWS: So you believe affirmatively that your complaint to the Office of Special Counsel in the Justice Department led to this probe we’re reading about today in the L.A. Times, the Associated Press and here on NBC?
IGLESIAS: I do. There may be other complainants that I’m not aware of, but I believe my complaints are at least a partial basis for that.
There is a paper trail documenting the attorney purge, and if it’s not in the Justice Department, it’s in the White House.
SWEET: When you talk about how you wanted to know the link between the e-mails and the memos, sometimes a good lawyer knows the answer to a question before they ask it. Do you know what are in some of those memos and emails?
IGLESIAS: No, I sure don’t. But I do know that the Justice Department papers everything. I mean, the most minute issue has an incredible researched and memoed product. There has to be a paper trail. I haven’t seen it yet. If it’s not at the Justice Department, it has got to be at the White House.
Karl Rove may have violated the Hatch Act.
MATTHEWS: What law do you believe [Rove] broke?
IGLESIAS: He could have violated the Hatch Act by putting undue pressure on the Justice Department to fire me and my colleagues.
MATTHEWS: Do you have any evidence that Karl Rove had a hand in your dumping, your firing?
IGLESIAS: There are some emails — there is some evidence. It is circumstantial now. I believe if OSC digs in, they can get direct evidence.
Monica Goodling “holds the keys” to uncovering the reasons behind the firings.
I think Monica Goodling is holding the keys to the kingdom. I think if they get her to testify under oath with a transcript, and have her describe the process between the information flow between the White House counsel, White House and the Justice Department, I believe the picture becomes a lot clearer.
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Yeah, yeah, and Joe Wilson was dreaming of Rove being frog-marched out of the White House too. How many disappointed Fitzmas mornings can your side endure?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:49 pmCue the trolls yammering about disgruntled ex-U.S. attorneys with axes to grind in 3…2…1…
April 24th, 2007 at 7:51 pmHow many disappointed Fitzmas mornings can your side endure?
Comment by Frank Matthews —
Libby: convicted. Rove: up next.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:51 pmHaHa. Rough night Frank. Why aren’t you in Iraq Frank? Keep trolling. The more you troll the more your ass is out the door in 08.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:52 pmHere’s a list of Frank’s buddies. Soon to be joined by Rove.
http://www.armchairsubversive.com/
April 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pmYes, Virginia, there really will be a Fitzmas THIS year!
April 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pmSh!t, it has been Fitzmas for months now. Every morning I wake up, somebody else on your side is going down. It is great to be on our side. 72% of the population is having a grand old time. Must suck to be a 28%er.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pmThis sounds for real.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:54 pmYes, you guys got Libby for a faulty memory. Good one. Look, guys, even if Bush / Cheney get impeached and removed from office, Alito and Roberts STAY on the Supreme Court, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:56 pmJust for the record, how many of the ousted U.S. Attorneys were Republicans?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:57 pmHow many disappointed Fitzmas mornings can your side endure?
Comment by Frank Matthews
Hows that Libby conviction working for you?
I know that you neocon clowns don’t consider perjury a crime, but too bad for you guys it is. And it doesn’t have to be just about a blow job.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:57 pmSupreme Court Justices can be impeached too.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:58 pmOnce the Official of Special Counsel clears Karl Rove, then you’ll leave him alone, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 7:59 pmBTW: I’ll take 28% and the Unitary Executive any day of the week ; )
April 24th, 2007 at 7:59 pmHaHa Frank. Alito and Roberts will be the only conservatives left on the Supreme court in 10 years. The neocons have tainted Republicans at least for another 15 years. Don’t worry Frank, Alabama will still welcome your ideas.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:00 pmPLC:
Probably all eight. Clinton replaced more than eight DEMOCRATIC United States Attorneys too.
Spudge_Boy:
There has to be SOME reason to impeach Supreme Court Justices, right? You can’t impeach them for overturning Roe v. Wade.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:02 pmYes, you guys got Libby for a faulty memory. Good one. Look, guys, even if Bush / Cheney get impeached and removed from office, Alito and Roberts STAY on the Supreme Court, right?
Yup.
But if you’re hoping for another Bush/Gore squeaker, don’t forget that Bush v Gore can’t be used as precedent for other cases — the Felonious Five saw to that.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:02 pmWayne:
You’re the last one who should be crowing about memory problems.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:03 pm#14
BTW: I’ll take 28% and the Unitary Executive any day of the week ; )
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 7:59 pm
And Jake the fascist finally comes clean. You make take 28%, but the rest of America won’t and neither will our military. Be careful what you wish for hillbilly.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:03 pmHow many disappointed Fitzmas mornings can your side endure?
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 7:49 pm
Iglesias is a Republican. Although, admittedly, he’s not acting like one. He’s showing integrity.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:03 pmBTW: I’ll take 28% and the Unitary Executive any day of the week ; )
Comment by Frank Matthews
Wait til Obama becomes president. Then you’ll really appreciate the unitary executive. Tick, Tock . . .
April 24th, 2007 at 8:04 pmYes, you guys got Libby for a faulty memory.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 7:56 pm
Wrong, Less-than-Frank. Libby went down for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE. I think the level of proof required of a jury for those charges is significantly higher than “faulty memory” would require.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:05 pmYes, you guys got Libby for a faulty memory.
Comment by Frank Matthews
Yeah, funny thing about Libby claiming to have a photographic memory BEFORE getting charged.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:05 pmThe jury didn’t buy the faulty memory defense either.
I guess only morons like you do.
I already stated I am not Jake.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:07 pmHe’s showing integrity.
Comment by KRank
“Swift Boats idling in the harbor, sir.”
April 24th, 2007 at 8:08 pmSince I brought up the topic of Rove, anyone remember this little bit from last year.
One of my all time favorites
“Karl Rove Indicted on Charges of Perjury, Lying to Investigators
By Jason Leopold
t r u t h o u t | Report
Saturday 13 May 2006
Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald spent more than half a day Friday at the offices of Patton Boggs, the law firm representing Karl Rove.
During the course of that meeting, Fitzgerald served attorneys for former Deputy White House Chief of Staff Karl Rove with an indictment charging the embattled White House official with perjury and lying to investigators related to his role in the CIA leak case, and instructed one of the attorneys to tell Rove that he has 24 business hours to get his affairs in order, high level sources with direct knowledge of the meeting said Saturday morning.”
http://www.truthout.org/cgi-bin/…ew.cgi/60/ 19780
April 24th, 2007 at 8:09 pmIs it just me, or does Jake seem to be getting a little testy?
Could it be that a Bush appointee who was f*cked over by the Boy King is refusing to take it lying down like a “loyal Bushie”, and Jake is starting to panic?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWayne:
You’re the last one who should be crowing about memory problems.
Comment by Frank Matthews
Because you couldn’t remember the question YOU asked me in the Tillman thread? Or because your reading comprehensionis soo bad you couldn’t re-read that thread to find it after I pointed it out to you?
You really are a dumb mutha f*cker aren’t you?
Hilarious, LOL
April 24th, 2007 at 8:11 pmC’mon Office of Special Prosecutor…
…big papa needs a new pair o’ shoes…
April 24th, 2007 at 8:11 pmI already stated I am not Jake.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 8:07 pm
Assuming this is in response to #19, which as of this writing is the only post here that referred to Jake as Jake — I mean, to FRANK as Jake, let’s play along and rewrite for accuracy:
And Frank the fascist finally comes clean. You make take 28%, but the rest of America won’t and neither will our military. Be careful what you wish for hillbilly.
There. That better?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmNope
We know, you are a fascist. You brown shirt troll.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWayne:
C) After repeatedly asking you what YOUR question was in response from said imaginary thread, you failed to do so.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmStill doesn’t mean you aren’t jake, jake.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhat’s funny about this, is the republicans would have squealed racism if Iglesias were an Anglo — but they can’t use that vile tactic against a latino republican. Too bad, eh Frank?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:13 pmOh, Wayne, to answer your questions though, no.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:14 pm#13 You mean the OSC investigation run by the ethically challenged Bloch (who is, by the way, a Bush appointee) and who heads up an agency that is supposed to protect federal whistleblowers, while himself under investigation for intimidating and threatening his own employees?
Yeah, not a whitewash waiting to happen there and if Rove is “cleared”.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:14 pmMathews says “we” got Libby for a “faulty memory”! What a freakin’ laugh!
Uh no, that was his defense at trial. The jury thought it was a load of crap and rejected it. Just like a large marjority of Americans think of AG Gonzalez’es “faulty memory”.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:15 pmYeah, that was a good one, kliege. Remember before BOTH 2006 and 2004 elections, the libs were salivating for Karl Rove too — what a disappointment it will be when he walks out of the White House, without handcuffs, that cold January 20, 2009 morning . . .
April 24th, 2007 at 8:16 pmI think we have been here so many times. The liberals or “progressives” have blown there wad at least several dozens times on the thought of Rove getting indicted or to quote Joe Wilson “fogged marched” out of the White House.
I know hope springs enternal for you clowns but just like you believed that if the Democrats took over the Congress the war would magically end the FACT is that nothing is gonna happen to Karl Rove and he will end his political career in Jan of 2009 just like President Bush and Cheney.
P.S how are those supeonas of Rove and Miers going?
.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:16 pmYes, lestatdelc, that OSC that sweetgumroot said “sounds for real” above.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:17 pmNot at all, Barfly, as I have not trashed Iglesias (yet).
April 24th, 2007 at 8:19 pmIt just never ends with these clowns. Pack the administration with pseudo-christians who have the intellectual depth of a tide pool,;stomp your feet that Democrats are forcing Bush to veto necessary funding for the troops; watch as yet another Bush flunky gets indicted, then convicted (and not for lying about a blowjob); claim that “liberals” are aiding the enemy, ruining xmas, easter and Festivus, while ignoring the military experts you claim to listen to; watch as an 85-year old George McGovern slaps the man who couldn’t shoot straight for his cowardice and blissful ignorance, but please, keep grasping at the straws this rolling disaster of an administration tossing to you. You’ll need those straws to continue to drink the Kool-Aid.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:19 pmAttention to all 28% troglodytes…your Fuhrer needs you in Iraq…get to the recruiter immediately.
Going after KKKarl Rove because that is where the bodies are buried. GOP = Crooks, Liars, Cowardly troglodytes.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:19 pm#29 Office of Special Council, not Office of Special Prosecutor. Total different things.
As Shakesville notes:
In addition to charges of “unnecessarily reorganizing the OSC to try to run off internal critics,†Bloch was also accused of “failing to enforce a long-standing policy against bias in the federal workplace based on sexual orientation†and “arbitrarily dismissing some personnel complaints and whistle-blower disclosures in an effort to claim reductions in backlogs.†At the time, it was quite evident that Bloch had turned the OSC into just another political arm of the Bush White House-and while they claimed to be supportive of the long-standing policy against discriminating against gays, and supportive of whistleblower statutes, Bloch was busily cooking up excuses for not adhering to the nondiscrimination policy and wantonly dismissing complaints.
So, it’s possible that Bloch’s OSC-led investigation of Rove is evidence of Rove’s waning influence—but it’s also quite possible that it’s evidence of his continued influence, with this ostensibly-independent investigation fated to find no wrongdoing.
Suffice it to say, I’m going to take a wait-and-see approach about whether this investigation is designed to put heat on the White House, or take it off. Wouldn’t it be just spectacularly Rovian for Rove, after resisting like his very life depended on it testifying under oath in front of Congress, chose to “fully cooperate†with a non-criminal investigation covertly designed to exonerate him?
For once I actually agree with Frank here, let’s not be popping any Fitzmas bubbly yet. This could be nothign more than an inside whitewash.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:20 pmHey, kliege, I thought I was assigned the Rove / Miers subpoena talking points?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pmI already stated I am not Jake.
Sure you are. More to the point you’re the sociopath who posted as Charlie/Thomas/Cheney and dozens of other handles with equally pathetic idiocy at Washington Monthly until you were run out.
For those who may not know Charlie he gets particularly agitated when there are bad news stories for the Bush maladministration - you know, like a petulant little girl.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pmI think we have been here so many times. The liberals or “progressives†have blown there wad at least several dozens times on the thought of Rove getting indicted or to quote Joe Wilson “fogged marched†out of the White House.
Ahh but now we have subpoena powers… life’s a bitch if you’re a GOP isn’t it?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:21 pmOh, Wayne, to answer your questions though, no.
Comment by Frank Matthews
Your obtuseness is pure Jake, even if you claim not to be him.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:22 pmin any case you are pure Jake-a$$
#39…the reason it’s so difficult to get to Rove is because he is so well protected. The protective walls are just now crumbling.
“…nothing is gonna happen to Karl Rove…” that’s what republicans said about Nixon.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:22 pmBut, HumboldtBlue, he sure did look good landing on that aircraft carrier, didn’t he?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:22 pmCANCEL post #29
…first of all it should’ve read Office of Special Counsel…
…and second (and MOST embarrassing)…
…the sh*thead running it (Scott Bloch)…
…is a mofoing BUSHITE TRAITOR…
…I sure hope the Democrats declare war against the Repulsivescum…
…so we can get on with the business of cleaning this sh*t up…
…look’slike Cheney’s geeking it up…
…all we need is for Reid to remember that HE’s a MAN…
…and Cheney’s a blowhard COWARD and thief!
…call these sons-of-bi*ches (Bushiva and L’il Dick) what they are…
…every time they put a mike in your mugs Pelosi and Reid…
April 24th, 2007 at 8:22 pmI think Monica Goodling is holding the keys to the kingdom. I think if they get her to testify under oath with a transcript, and have her describe the process between the information flow between the White House counsel, White House and the Justice Department, I believe the picture becomes a lot clearer.
Frickin’ sweet…..
April 24th, 2007 at 8:23 pmSo when the liberals run out of things to so they resort to the calling Bush Hilter.
God I wish you people would be more visiable to the average voter.
Let them see the kinda of scum that now make up the Democrat Party.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:24 pmWho cares if Frank Matthews is Jake? He’s gotten enough attention for six lifetimes.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pmYes, you guys got Libby for a faulty memory. Good one. Look, guys, even if Bush / Cheney get impeached and removed from office, Alito and Roberts STAY on the Supreme Court, right?
No, Libby was convicted for PERJURY and OBSTRUCTING Fitz’s INVESTIGATION into WHO EXPOSED A CIA COVERT SPY
SPECIALIZING IN WMD.
And we now know that Cheney (and so the silver-spoon TRAITOR Bush) were ultimately behind it.
As far as the TRAITORS on the Supreme Court, you are CORRECT…
But WHY do you HATE America and put PARTY before COUNTRY by supporting these TRAITORS to the USA??
I guess because you ARE what you SUPPORT, a TREASONOUS unamerican piece of sewer trash.
See you in hell “jake matthews” (cause I’LL be THERE),
April 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pmMr. Bush
MURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM)
big papa:
You finally got YOU talking points?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:26 pm#
Who cares if Frank Matthews is Jake? He’s gotten enough attention for six lifetimes.
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007 @ 8:25 pm
Zooey, better he gets the attention here versus grabbing a gun and “Going Cho”, it’s always the frank types that do that crap.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:27 pmkliege:
Just wait until it festers and boils over after the war appropriation or impeachment battle fails.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:28 pm#53
Dubya is no Hitler…he is just a wannabe.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:28 pmwhat a disappointment it will be when he walks out of the White House, without handcuffs, that cold January 20, 2009 morning . . .
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 8:16 pm
Rove has used the justice department as a political firewall. If the lawyers at justice decide the consequences are too great for them to continue to give Rove & co. a pass for Hatch act violations, your “unitary” executive will be just that - by himself, and looking at a revived special prosecutor statute. The American people aren’t quite there yet, but every day that Iraq gets worse, they are nudged a little closer to that conclusion. By continuing to support this president, you hold a piece of melting ice; and soon all you will be left with is a bad case of political frostbite.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:28 pm#53 booooo-ring
April 24th, 2007 at 8:29 pmPoor whittle Zoo-Zoo. Did the petals come off your flower again?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:29 pmIt really is sad. Most of the people on this Thingprogress.com a website of the Soros funded Center for American Progress really are irrelevant. They come home from their jobs(they few that have one) to and empty house or apartment( few are married and those that were a divorced) put some food into the microwave and sit at the computer and scan these left wing websites.
But the truth is the things they say are irrelevant. Outside of their one vote these people are nobodys. If they were to die tonight the world would still carry on with its business like nothing happened.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:30 pmThe OSC investigation is going nowhere on purpose. Check out CREW and a great piece about Scott Bloch and OSC.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:30 pmhttp://www.citizensforethics.org/node/27785
Not at all, Barfly, as I have not trashed Iglesias (yet).
Comment by Frank Matthews
Because you can’t, without looking two-faced. I already said that tactic had been nullified by Iglesias race. Or are you having trouble, cognitatively speaking?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:31 pmI think Monica Goodling is holding the keys to the kingdom. I think if they get her to testify under oath with a transcript, and have her describe the process between the information flow between the White House counsel, White House and the Justice Department, I believe the picture becomes a lot clearer.
Frickin’ sweet…..
Comment by Zooey — April 24, 2007 @ 8:23 pm
Dont cream you panties yet Zooey.
The Democrats are gonna have to find a way to get Goodling to not plead the 5th and the way they have been acting I wouldn’t bet on it.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:31 pmMr. Bush Goes to Hell:
I do not hate America, nor do I put party before country. I support President Bush because I do not believe he is a traitor but rather he is doing the right job in Iraq and here at home too.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:32 pmThis Blockhead guy is a buddy of Rove.
Whitewash.
No doubt about it.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:33 pmPoor whittle Zoo-Zoo. Did the petals come off your flower again?
Comment by micheal
Oohh! You’re sure a hot pistil! Wanna germinate?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:33 pmOh yeah Frank impeachment. The battle cry of the left wing fever scum.
If they are gonna impeach Bush( they will unless want to impeach Cheney) they need to get started about now because its already April.
Its gonna be 2008 soon so unless impeachment is just another way for the lib bots to get excited and cream themselves has they soo often do. I would suggest they get the impeachment starts right away.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:34 pmFrank is another shining example of the modern republican party…places party of above country and full of hate. The more you defend the indefensible the more unhinged you look.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:34 pmZooey, better he gets the attention here versus grabbing a gun and “Going Choâ€, it’s always the frank types that do that crap.
Comment by Can-O-Whoop-Ass
He’d just hide under his dripping bed and cry.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:34 pmComment by kliege
I’m surprised you could talk so well with Karl Rove’’s dick in your mouth. Now, piss off, troll.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:35 pmDont cream you panties yet Zooey.
Oh, that’s lovely — NOT.
The Democrats are gonna have to find a way to get Goodling to not plead the 5th and the way they have been acting I wouldn’t bet on it.
Comment by kliege
A girl can hope, so I hope — and write everyone I can think of…
April 24th, 2007 at 8:36 pmOohh! You’re sure a hot pistil! Wanna germinate?
Comment by Rosie
Too funny….
April 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pmHi Guys,
I’m going to wait for the next post. After last night’s record of no trolls, KKKarl must have upped the ante (probably if he had his choice he would have upped Uncle Dick).
April 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pmAlito and Roberts STAY on the Supreme Court, right? - Frank Matthews
**********************
Why on earth would that make you happy? You are a fool.
Trolls to Bush (who is applying a hot coat hanger to their collective bare ass): “Thank you sir, may I have another?”
April 24th, 2007 at 8:37 pm#
So when the liberals run out of things to so they resort to the calling Bush Hilter.
God I wish you people would be more visiable to the average voter.
Let them see the kinda of scum that now make up the Democrat Party.
Comment by kliege — April 24, 2007 @ 8:24 pm
Hey man if the shoe fits wear it, perhaps you should compare the two..
Hitler lied to the Germans
Bush lied about WMD’s
Hitler had a scapegoat, the Jews
Bush has the Islamic people.
Hitler said you’re either with us or against us.
DITTO for Bush
Hitler had secret camps, endorsed torture.
DITTO for Bush
Hitler didn’t listen to his Generals
Bush fires the ones that don’t agree too!
Hitler thought withdrawing from russia was losing the war.
Bush claims withdrawing from Iraq is losing the war.
Hitler Spied on the German people.
Bush spies on us!
Hitler demanded everyone carry their papers at all times.
Bush wants to “chip” people like you do your dog. (Since when are we owned by our govt, like we own a dog?)
So keep on supporting Hitler V2 (with more bugs than windows.)
April 24th, 2007 at 8:39 pmI support President Bush because I do not believe he is a traitor but rather he is doing the right job in Iraq and here at home too.
Comment by micheal
Tell that to the veterans and the wounded at Walter Reed. Tell that to the Tillman family who found out that Bushco used Pat, lying about the true reason he died.
Tell that to the veterans that have had their claims denied by the political appointees made by Bush
You are full of crap, micheal.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:40 pmI’m going to wait for the next post. After last night’s record of no trolls, KKKarl must have upped the ante (probably if he had his choice he would have upped Uncle Dick).
Comment by Clyde the Ripper
Apparently they slept an extra day in their pods this week. ;D
April 24th, 2007 at 8:40 pmI’m not having a trouble, Barfly. Gonzales’s race did stop your side’s attacks, did it?
BTW: No thanks, Rosie (O’Donnell?).
April 24th, 2007 at 8:41 pmBush said he has confidence in Wolfie,Gonzo..and now he will add Rove to the list.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:43 pmKucinich filed the papers for IMPEACHMENT OF CHENEY today.
The PURGE of the BushCrimeCo (TM) TRAITORS begins….
See you in hell Dickie (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
April 24th, 2007 at 8:44 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo)
Comment by Clyde the Ripper — April 24, 2007 @ 8:37 pm
Why would that even be in your mind.
You must have some sort of narcissistic personality disorder to believe that a man has important has Rove would care about the rantings of left wing scum.
Seriously don’t think yourself so highly. The truth is nobody but you cares what you say. You are a nobody to Rove.
You are irrelevant to tell the truth.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:44 pmBecause, fuzzwald, I want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe v. Wade.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:44 pmClyde the Ripper:
I was here last night.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:45 pm#63
ROFLMAO
Wow, you really buy up that Bill O’Lielly bullshit and fact free Soros nonsense don’t ya?
April 24th, 2007 at 8:45 pmfrank, frank, frank, frank matthews,,,,,,,,,your stooge monkey president bush, at best he is grossly incompetent,,,,,,,,,,,he has never taken advice from any one qualified!!!!!!!!!!, bush cant even start a war with out screwing up,,,,,,,,,he ignored military advice that it would take 350,000 troops on ground,,,,,,,,,he fired all the iraqi army, some of which could have kept the peace, they turned into insurgents during all the looting,,,,,,,,,,,bush dumps 12 billion in $100 dollar bills into iraq, over 8 billion cant be accounted for,,, hell bush has made more terrorist, now he is funding terrorism,,,,,,,,,,frank, youir stooge president is making a monkey out of usa
April 24th, 2007 at 8:45 pmSeriously don’t think yourself so highly. The truth is nobody but you cares what you say. You are a nobody to Rove.
I think very highly of what Clyde has to say, since he’s a brilliant man.
You are irrelevant to tell the truth.
Comment by kliege
I’m pretty sure you know how that feels.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:47 pmYou’re entitled to your own opinion, bubba chumpster.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:48 pmI was here last night.
Comment by Frank Matthews
Always enjoyable when the trolls identify themselves. Thanks, Jake.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:49 pmComment by bubba chumpster — April 24, 2007 @ 8:45 pm
Im guessing you believe yourself to be one of those qualified.
Trust me your not and you never will be or reach has high or earn has much money has any of the people you hate.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:49 pmIMPEACHMENT TIME, kiddies.
Articles filed on Cheney today by Dennis Kucinich, AMERICAN PATRIOT
And Pat Tillman’s buddies were ORDERED NOT TO TELL HOW HE DIED.
The Democrats are gonna have to find a way to get Goodling to not plead the 5th and the way they have been acting I wouldn’t bet on it.
Goodling can ONLY AVOID JAIL by cooperating with Congress, and MAYBE they will grant her immunity…
Otherwise, this “christian” from Pat Robertson’s DIPLOMA MILL
WILL BE GOING TO JAIL FOR GONZO AND BUSH.
She will be wetting her panties until she
finally DECIDES TO IMPLICATE them to save her OWN azz.
God Bless America, the Democrats, SUBPOENAS, and the WORLD!
April 24th, 2007 at 8:50 pmClyde the Ripper:
The next post is up — this time, some push back from the GOP on yet another session of Rice’s testimony.
Mr. Bush Goes To Hell:
Cynthia McKinney filed impeachment papers last year against Bush. I think Waxman has a daily-increasing list on his website. Bupkis so far.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMy balls would look real nice sitting on Karl Rove’s chin.
Poppin’ a chubby as I type…!
April 24th, 2007 at 8:52 pmMy balls would look real nice sitting on Karl Rove’s chin.
Poppin’ a chubby as I type…!
Comment by Frank Matthews
I knew you were cruising….
April 24th, 2007 at 8:54 pmBut THIS is a NEW YEAR.
With REAL American CONGRESSPEOPLE.
Not NAZI TRAITORS like Bush and Cheney.
By the way, you NEVER did answer:
WHY did Bush and Cheney REFUSE TO SWEAR TO GOD TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE 9/11 commission???
Come on, “frank”.
Tell us ALL about WHY they wouldn’t TELL THE TRUTH IN PUBLIC TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE…
BRING IT ON!!
April 24th, 2007 at 8:57 pmWe need more great Americans like Iglesias and Carol Lam.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:58 pmCareful, fake Frank, don’t let TripMaster Monkey see you or he will (not) blow a gasket about comment registration . . .
April 24th, 2007 at 8:59 pmLet’s be Frank.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:59 pmBecause, Mr. Bush Goes To Hell, the Congress cannot force a sitting President / Vice President to testify.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:00 pmIglesias is operating under the assumption that the US still runs under the rule of law.
That Blockhead guy doing the investigation is a crony of Rove.
This stinks of coverup. Whitewash.
We shall see.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:00 pmTrust me your not and you never will be or reach has high or earn has much money has any of the people you hate.
Comment by kliege — April 24, 2007 @ 8:49 pm
Wow, another product of no child left behind, scary you can vote, and own a weapon, and buy liquor!
Dude we could care less how much people have, it’s when govt helps them to get richer off my back, and yours too dummy! But keep on sheeping on!
April 24th, 2007 at 9:04 pmCLINTON DID IT! (TO ME, more than once actually.)
April 24th, 2007 at 9:05 pmBecause, Mr. Bush Goes To Hell, the Congress cannot force a sitting President / Vice President to testify.
Comment by Frank Matthews
Nixon thought so too and we see where that lead him =)
April 24th, 2007 at 9:07 pm#
Because, Mr. Bush Goes To Hell, the Congress cannot force a sitting President / Vice President to testify.
WHY would they need to be FORCED to testify AT ALL???
1. One would think that being PATRIOTIC AMERICANS, they would be HAPPY to tell EVERYTHING THEY COULD that would help us understand WHY we were attacked.
2. Nixon, Reagan and Clinton ALL testified UNDER OATH.
3. Interestingly enough, out of all the disasters we have had: Pearl Harbor, Challenger Shuttle, etc., there was ALWAYS a Commission to study WHY. Bush and Cheney resisted for over a year, only giving in
from PRESSURE FROM THE 9/11 widows.
So, WHY wouldn’t they want to TELL THE TRUTH TO AMERICAN, and WHY would they feel FORCED to do so???
Bring it on!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 9:10 pmWayne:
Congress never forced Nixon to testify either.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:10 pmLet’s see if I follow Frank’s drift. I think it goes something like: ” Okay, so you Democrats took back both houses of Congress, Nancy Pelosi is the first female Speaker of the House, she’s got a better than 50% approval rating while Bush’s is stuck in the low 30s, and the country disagrees with Bush on everything having to do with the war. We’ve seen two GOP congressmen, the Veep’s chief of staff, and other members of the administration convicted and thrown in jail, along with several GOP lobbyists and congressional staffers. BUT, you haven’t gotten Rove, yet. So, nyah nyah ny-nyah nyah.”
How proud you must be, Frank. Do you feel like a winner?
April 24th, 2007 at 9:11 pmClinton did it.
He inhaled.
Hey, he went to college.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:11 pmYou are a nobody to Rove.
You are irrelevant to tell the truth.
Comment by kliege #84
…do Rove, Bush and Cheney…
…care about YOU kleenex?
…are YOU relevant?
…what is YOUR reward for defending and serving Bush, Cheney and Rove?
April 24th, 2007 at 9:13 pmRove is the nobody.
He lost the last election.
He hasn’t gotten any job offers from the Repuke candidates.
Rove is over. His star is tied to Chimpy’s.
And Chimpy is a lame duck.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmDont cream you panties yet Zooey.
The Democrats are gonna have to find a way to get Goodling to not plead the 5th and the way they have been acting I wouldn’t bet on it.
Comment by kliege — April 24, 2007 @ 8:31 pm
It’s called “immunity.”
April 24th, 2007 at 9:17 pmConsidering how many times you’ve been gunning for Karl Rove, chimpeach, yes. Like I told Spudge_Boy, I will take 28% but the Unitary Executive over all of what you’ve got any day of the week.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:20 pmDon’t cream your panties yet, Zooie.
I haven’t set up my camera yet. 8^)
April 24th, 2007 at 9:22 pmI’ll take 28% and the Unitary Executive any day of the week ; )
Comment by Frank Matthews
I think this statement says all you really need to know about Frank, or whatever his name is: He doesn’t believe in the three equal branches of the US government and wants a king or dictator.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:22 pmI will take 28% but the Unitary Executive over all of what you’ve got any day of the week.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
I’ll take the Military and Defending the Constitution NOT the CiC. for 500 Alex!
April 24th, 2007 at 9:24 pmI haven’t set up my camera yet. 8^)
Comment by Tom3
Please don’t feed the trolls — at my expense. Oy….
April 24th, 2007 at 9:26 pm**eyes rolling**
For the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see:
April 24th, 2007 at 9:36 pm“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
FrankMatt, kliege & 28%er deadenders — We shld feel pity & sorrow for them. But dont get too close ’cause you’ll get slimed - & definitely dont touch ‘em unless willing to take a shower right afterward!
April 24th, 2007 at 9:43 pmFrom CNN;
A federal agency has launched an extensive investigation into the activities of the White House’s political operation and its architect, Karl Rove. It is checking whether Rove or other White House aides broke federal laws by making political presentations to government employees encouraging them to find ways to support Republican candidates. “We will not leave any stone unturned,” said Scott Bloch, the lawyer appointed by President Bush to head the agency in 2003.
I wouldn’t hold your breath y’all.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:54 pm#113 Frank Matthews
Considering how many times you’ve been gunning for Karl Rove, chimpeach, yes. Like I told Spudge_Boy, I will take 28% but the Unitary Executive over all of what you’ve got any day of the week.
Considering that the Dems have only been the majority party for a little over a hundred days, you’re awfully quick to be declaring Rove to be bulletproof. There was no oversight for six years. The Republicans blocked it. Remember? The “Unitary Executive” exists in the minds of a few deranged White House staffers and nowhere else. You’re laboring under this delusion that Bush, Cheney, and Rove are going to get away with murder. They won’t. But, I don’t mind seeing it get dragged out. I want the noose to tighten slowly. I want to see them reach a point where they’re so fed up with having to fight off investigations and subpoenas and charges, where they realize that nobody wants them to stay on, not even their own party, that they’re almost to the point of just throwing in the towel. But, before they have a chance to quit, I want to see impeachment.
You’ve got nothing to be cocky about, Frank. You never dreamed that the Dems would take back Congress and start holding oversight hearings. It sucks to be a Republican right now and don’t pretend that it doesn’t.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:55 pmI will take 28% but the Unitary Executive over all of what you’ve got any day of the week.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
Achtung!
April 24th, 2007 at 10:02 pmSix short years ago, wingers were gloating over complete control of American government. Now all they can do is gloat over the fact that Karl Rove hasn’t been arrested yet.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:07 pmYeah, how’s that “permanent Republican majority” thing coming, Frank?
April 24th, 2007 at 10:12 pmDAMN!
…Where did everybody go?
April 24th, 2007 at 10:35 pmbib papa,
I’m still here, was curious if TP was having issues, but I think it’s past the trolls bedtime. Don’t worry, like moths to a flame, they’ll be back tomorrow to get their ass kicked again.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:52 pmComment by Can-O-Whoop-Ass #126
…you’re doing a great job of holding their dumb a*ses to the fire COWA…
…keep it up…
April 24th, 2007 at 11:06 pmCheck out Jesus General’s 4/24 post from the past on the Block-man. he’s just what the Bush Crime Family would want investigating their consigliere.
http://www.patriotboy.blogspot.com/
April 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pm#9 It is nice to see you have ethics, Frankie. “I don’t recall” is just code for I am a guilty a$$ed, motherf&cker and you know it. How honest do you think Abu Gonz was in his testimony? Really, really truthful?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:30 pmI’m not having a trouble, Barfly. Gonzales’s race did stop your side’s attacks, did it? FM
And Iglesias’ ethnicity kept your racial swiftboaters at bay, also. It works both ways. How are you guys gonna do that to Obama? It won’t play well if the Party of Lincoln swiftboats a black candidate. Do that, and the hispanic vote will say adios to the repubs as well. Then all you’ll have is a few isolated religious fanatics, and the backwoods boys. Fiscal conservatives have already jumped ship.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:36 pmwill take 28% but the Unitary Executive over all of what you’ve got any day of the week.
Comment by Frank Matthews — April 24, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
When they make you serve in this chickenshit war you defend…you will change your mind…most trolls in that 28% are nothing but troglodyte chickenshit chickenhawk cowards…much like Dubya and Cheney and the rest of the warmongers in the PNAC…never served a lick.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:41 pmI believe Exlax has morphed into Frank! Just like MA became VV and Jake became Elizabeth then Dan, and Patrick1 and Firehead share the same keyboard.
There are only three trolls who are paid to post here, and they assume several identities to make it seem that there are several f*cking idiots who share their views. But no. There are only a few.
It is regrettable that we have to share space in our country with these miserable, pathetic losers, but hey, it’s not like they are going to go away.
Please, please…………..don’t feed the trolls.
They are not worth your/our time.
April 24th, 2007 at 11:52 pm#132 I just give them empty calories. I agree with you that they aren’t worth any actual thoughtful debate but I do think mental twinkies are good for them and us.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:00 amBut, I don’t mind seeing it get dragged out. I want the noose to tighten slowly. I want to see them reach a point where they’re so fed up with having to fight off investigations and subpoenas and charges, where they realize that nobody wants them to stay on, not even their own party, that they’re almost to the point of just throwing in the towel. But, before they have a chance to quit, I want to see impeachment.
Does anyone honestly expect to see Impeachment? I mean seriously? First off they are going to drag this garbage out for a year and a half spending countless billions of our dollars that could be better spent. Then it will be a huge political cry before elections, then regardless of who wins it will sort of go away. Reasons like: we need to look forward now, we must unite a nation, the healing must begin blah blah blah Meanwhile the only people making out are the high priced lawyers on both sides while we all get stuck with the bill.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:01 am#134 Ok, Tundra, what happened? You were a troll quite a while ago. Did you suddenly cross the aisle or are you a new Tundra?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:06 amYou were a troll quite a while ago.
I have always distrusted all politicians. Including the Democrats. Just seems everytime I say Yeah big whoop 8 lawyers (Who I distrust as much as politicians) got canned. Is it possible that they really did kinda suck at their job?
I get
You Bushies
Your war
Womens rights
NeoCONS like you
Rethuglicans like you always
But Cheney did this
When in reality I think both sides are playing off each other to keep people choosing a side while they continue to make huge amounts of cash off of all of us. Sort of amazing to me how noone can figure out how to run a free country off 40%+ of what everyone makes. Keep blaming the other side while you pull money into your coffers.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:14 amJPark,
I have followed your posts to that point, and I agree that it does reveal the talking points being disseminated, and we sharpen our debate points with their foils. I think that we are also sharpening their points maybe.
It is hard to give these pukes any quarter when it’s our young kids being sacrificed on the altar of Boy George.
The trolls, the Faux News, the hate radio talk shows do have an effect on the a lot of Americans who don’t think for themselves, or don’t want to. The propaganda works. KKKarl’s mentor is Goebbels, and at the end of the day KKKarl will be villified as the enemy of the truth he is.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:20 amHi Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington (CREW),
Here’s the commentary on OSC. So-called “whistleblower advocacy groups” as GAP, POGO, PEER, Judaical Watch, National Whistleblower Certer, etc, give OSC lawbreaking a “free pass,” because it drives people like me to their doors - it’s a sick game in which attorneys in these organizations shred their professional ethics by failing to “blow whistles” on OSC lawbreaking and the related professional misconduct of OSC attorneys who have specific responsibilities to implement specific laws to protect feds from retribution.
I would hope that CREW would encourage a DOJ career attorney, concerned that she is being asked to railroad someone for political reasons, to responsibly act on her concerns. Such a career DOJ attorney, as just about every other career (and many non-career) federal employees in almost every agency, would be relying on the office of special counsel, and its attorneys, to protect them at the law requires. But CREW cannot, at present, reasonably assure such a person, based on Congressional, judicial, or other independent oversight that OSC will comply with statutory obligaitons to do so.
I hope CREW finds that unsatisfactory and does something responsible about it, unlike the so-called whistleblower advocacy groups, which exploit, more than help, concerned federal employees.
Respectfully,
Joe Carson, P.E.
Knoxville, TN
865-300-5831
*******************************************************************
From “Federal Times”
Commentary: Lack of protection for whistleblowers imperils us all
April 16, 2007
Many civilian federal employees, in a variety of agencies, are on the front lines of the war on terrorism. But who protects them from workplace retribution when they put their sworn duty to defend and protect the public’s health and safety ahead of their self-interest or the interests of their supervisors and agencies?
The primary mission of the Office of Special Counsel (OSC) is to protect employees in nearly every agency  except FBI and intelligence agencies  from 11 types of prohibited personnel practices, particularly whistleblower reprisal. OSC has about 110 employees, about 40 percent of whom are licensed attorneys. Like public defenders, OSC’s attorneys are paid by the government to act in the interests of federal employees who seek their protection.
OSC annually receives about 1,700 complaints of prohibited personnel practices, alleging about 3,500 specific practices. We contend the law  5 USC 1214(b)(2)(A)  is absolutely clear that OSC is required to investigate complaints and report its determination “whether there are reasonable grounds to believe a [prohibited practice] has occurred, exists, or is to be taken.â€
If OSC makes a positive determination, according to the law and a 2000 federal court decision, then it must report that determination to the involved agency, the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) and the Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB). This is to enable the agency heads to comply with their lawful duty to prevent prohibited personnel practices in their agencies.
However, according to OSC’s annual report for 2004, public records maintained by OSC, and a Freedom of Information Act response from MSPB, OSC did not report a single positive determination of prohibited personnel practices to MSPB during 2002-2004, not in 5,529 separate complaints it investigated and closed in that time. It made three such reports to MSPB in fiscal 2005-2006.
While OSC claims to have obtained about 320 “favorable actions†when agencies took actions as a result of OSC investigations of complaints from fiscal 2002 through 2004, there is little, if any, publicly available documentation to substantiate OSC’s claims.
We contend that MSPB is statutorily required to conduct the necessary inquiries of OSC and other federal agencies to determine and publicly report “whether the public interest in a civil service free of [prohibited personnel practices] is being adequately protected.†In response to a Freedom Of Information Act request, MSPB acknowledged that it has not conducted the necessary inquiries of OSC and other agencies to make that report but claims that its special studies and reports, particularly in the aggregate, contain the relevant information.
Our position is that MSPB has failed to conduct required reviews of OSC, enabling OSC noncompliance with its specific statutory obligations to protect federal employees from prohibited personnel practices.
Bottom line: No one in any agency or Congress can reasonably assure federal employees, based on any independent oversight of OSC, that if they stick their necks out to do their duty to protect public safety  including in the war on terrorism  OSC will comply with its lawful duty to protect them from government retaliation. That is a formula for failed levees, doomed space shuttles, catastrophic terrorist attacks, neglected veterans, etc.
What to do? The new Congress must perform its constitutional duty of oversight of OSC and MSPB to ensure their scrupulous compliance with relevant law in protecting federal employees from prohibited personnel practices. Both OSC and MSPB are due to be reauthorized by the end of fiscal 2007, so thorough congressional oversight of these agencies is now timely.
If congressional or judicial oversight substantiates our concerns, there are potentially thousands of victims who may well merit official restoration and rehabilitation via congressional action.
If we are correct, OSC attorneys can be seen as failing to comply with their legal and professional duty to “blow whistles†on OSC’s failure to comply with the law in protecting federal employees.
Joe Carson is a whistleblower and Energy Department nuclear safety engineer. His co-authors are Jeffrey Black, a federal air marshal and whistleblower; Carol Czarkowski, former Navy contracting officer and whistleblower; Jeffrey Fudin, founder and director of the Veterans Affairs Whistleblower Coalition; David Nolan, former White House attorney under President Reagan; and Michael Springman, former Foreign Service officer and whistleblower. The opinions are those of the authors and not of their current or previous employers.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:27 amKarl Rove is a moral and ethical black hole. Molly Ivins warned us about him long ago. Alas, it’s hard for us liberals to believe how low Homo sapiens can go.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:32 am“Monica Goodling —holds the “keys to the kingdom†in terms of uncovering the roots of the U.S. Attorney purge, since she can describe the communication that took place between the White House and the Justice Department.”"
Yeah, If she can recall anything… anything at all.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:33 am#137 I really don’t think the Rove Doctrine is all that successful anymore. I think people have a limit to which they will succumb to that type of tactic. Yes, most people are slow learners but every single poll is in Dems favor no matter what the issue. People are sick to death of Rovian politics. Rove and his trolls are on the run and scrambling to get the American public back but the people aren’t buying. The sleight of hand has lost its magic.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:39 am“Monica Goodling —holds the “keys to the kingdom†in terms of uncovering the roots of the U.S. Attorney purge, since she can describe the communication that took place between the White House and the Justice Department.—
Harriet Miers is the answer. Pissed off that she didn’t get the post for the Supreme Court due to her lack of experience and poor character. Decides she wants to purge them all. Gonzales says you can’t do that. She goes on a hunt to find at least a few she can ditch. Locates 8 with semi poor records/good enough excuses to fire and goes to town (+1 Roves friend needed to replace).
Of course this is simply my opinion and I have zero proof but hey I can say what I want.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:43 amTime for a little waterboarding….oh, wait we have better ethics and morals than that, DAMN.
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 25th, 2007 at 12:47 am#142 Ok, I am on board. I know exactly what to expect from you, Tundra. Good to know this is an anomaly and that you will become one of our esteemed trolls.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:50 am#142 The only problem is your loser masters ditched the performance excuse about 2 months ago. You righties are so predictable. Hold on, let me go listen to Limbaugh and I will tell you exactly what excuses you will have tomorrow.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:51 am#142 Ok, I am on board. I know exactly what to expect from you, Tundra. Good to know this is an anomaly and that you will become one of our esteemed trolls.
Wow, I blame Bush’s chief legal counsel and I am a republican troll again. Her name was all over the chain of e-mails. Ever notice that the people fired were from the areas of some of the people that were against her. Heck that’s abuse of power even, but I’m back to a republican troll.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:02 amGood to know this is an anomaly and that you will become one of our esteemed trolls.
Ok, so if I follow the talking points you give me to the letter I am OK, If I chose my own theory (Even if it is still against the republicans) I am a troll.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:08 amThe (R)’s have the corner on corruption and it will show at the polls in ‘08, ‘10, ‘12, ‘14, ‘16, ‘18, ‘20. . . .
you get the idea, concrete though your brain may be.
love it, just love it.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:10 am#146 No Tundra, you are a troll because you still state that it was a performance issue despite the fact that that particular talking point has been abandoned (I didn’t say you were a GOOD troll). By the way, Harriet Miers? It is all her fault right? So Abu Gonzo should be alright and they should hire back Sampson, eh?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:11 am#147 Harriet Miers? Ok, maybe you aren’t a troll. If you are not, however, you are plain stupid.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:12 amIs Jake getting double pay for posting as both Frank and Kliege, and then congratulating himself for his great posts?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:41 amIt really is sad. Most of the people on this Thingprogress.com a website of the Soros funded Center for American Progress really are irrelevant. They come home from their jobs(they few that have one) to and empty house or apartment( few are married and those that were a divorced) put some food into the microwave and sit at the computer and scan these left wing websites.
But the truth is the things they say are irrelevant. Outside of their one vote these people are nobodys. If they were to die tonight the world would still carry on with its business like nothing happened.
Comment by kliege — April 24, 2007 @ 8:30 pm
Wow, how sad for you if the only thing you have to do with your life is come here and read our meaningless posts. Kinda makes you even less than meaningless, and that much less relevant.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:46 am#151 No, he just gets an extra doggy biscuit.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:46 amKliege somehow thinks Soros giving money is unAmerican while Mellon-Scaife is patriotic. Kind of a tool if you ask me.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:54 amI decided to get to know you guys. Hi, My name is carl. What’s yours? JPark? That you post here, I suspect that you, like me, are just here to practice your typing skills, right? Want to get a couple brews later? Listen to some Dixie Chicks on the way over? Heey man, dude, you like the Lakers?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:20 amRichard, don’t you know anything? Dumbass!
April 25th, 2007 at 2:23 amnaw, what’s fun is going out AFTER reading all these posts and informing all those that cannot afford to sit here and be informed and help inform them.
they don’t believe what’s happening either. there’s NO WAY those (R)’s finally get to face the real world? NO!
what is even more fun is watching the BYU students get the $$ they need to have an alternative commencement and NOT allow themselves to be preached at by the worst example of character there is today, d. cheney.
what is even more fun than even that is watching my repug neighbor frantically scraping his bumper sticker off his suv.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:58 amNigel Snarkley-Smythe feels that the reason for this “special investigation” is to activate the Libby cover, i.e. to allow all Cheney/Bush folk to simply say they don’t comment on active investigations.
April 25th, 2007 at 7:32 am#134 Tundra
First off they are going to drag this garbage out for a year and a half spending countless billions of our dollars that could be better spent.
Oh, you mean like the countless billions in taxpayers dollars that have been ripped off by Halliburton through overbilling, fraud, waste, and shoddy workmanship? Actually, “billions” would be a bit of an exaggeration. I don’t think that long overdue oversight and prosecution of criminals in the White House is going to cost more than the $60 million that the Whitewater investigation rang up. And, I expect it to be much more productive, too.
Gee, I haven’t seen a ‘concern troll’ around here in a while.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:26 amIglesias is one of the few decent Republicans who put duty to the law before loyalty to the GOP.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:58 amWow, a troll derailed this thread on the first post. What an easy bunch you are.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:28 pmBillons? chump change.
the feds owe Native American TRILLIONS if you followed the Cobell case now in process. again, because of the massive corruption of the feds (also known as republicans) and the extractive industries. this has been going on for years and gale norton was in contempt of court for not producing documents because they were inadvertently “lost”. sound familiar? the depth of depravity of this administration is STAGGERINGl
gonzales knows that this case is going to break them. he will not quit. ask him about cobell.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:30 pm