ThinkProgress wins spot in O’Reilly’s New World Order.
By on Apr 24th, 2007 at 3:58 pm
ThinkProgress wins spot in O’Reilly’s New World Order.
Last night, Bill O’Reilly exposed how George Soros rules the world. The Center for American Progress, home of ThinkProgress, made the chart:
[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2007/04/sorosoreilly666.320.240.flv]
You really can’t call yourself “a very well-oiled, effective character assassination machine” until you’re on O’Reilly’s list, so thanks to all our readers who helped make this possible.
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O’Liely is such a
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmfoolTool.Congratulations, TP!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmSoros was also on the grassy knoll and personally sank Atlantis.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmIn all fairness shouldn’t BO draw up his idea of the flow of information from Rupert Murdoch to Fox?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWhat a damned joke. Bill-O talking about the “great left-wing conspiracy”???
Hey, Bill…if we were running the world, things might make a little more sense, thanks.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmCool. We’re part of BO’s “New World Order.”
April 24th, 2007 at 4:03 pmI feel all powerful and shit.
It could have something to do with John Podesta as well.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmdoes CAP/Think Progress even get any money for Soros?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmIt sure would be nice if the MSM published 0.000000001% of the actual facts that TP does. But, it is too busy with Anna Nichole Smith.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmHey TP intern!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:04 pmI bet if you fixed the time on this sucker, it would get some play!
And the right wing calls us conspiracy theorists….
Idiots.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:05 pmSo I guess he doesn’t consider Fox part of the “Mainstream Media”??
April 24th, 2007 at 4:05 pmThe only way I hear about O’Really is when I watch Oberman, don’t give this crazy any press time.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:06 pmYou gotta be doing something right when they start putting you at the center of the Global Left Wing Conspiracy
April 24th, 2007 at 4:07 pmZooey
I believe yesterday you said the the left does not smear?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:07 pmHey, I’ve become an activist!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:07 pmIt’s funny, how the “very well-oiled, effective character assassination machine†that is Think Progress still runs on a platform not substantially any more advanced than the old dialup BBSs I frequented back in the halcyon days of the late 80s.
When can we expect TP to get current, admins? The software is freely available and would take about two days to fully implement.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:07 pmI’m so proud of my meager contributions to the well-oiled machine.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:08 pmTold ya. :-)
April 24th, 2007 at 4:08 pmDid they happen to do a chart on Scaife?
Didn’t think so.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmHot Damn! Congratulations! Now maybe Malkin will feature you on blowing hot air, powerline will misquote you about how you love to torture puppies while peeing on a picture of the virgin Mary and Hannity will allow you sleep with Colmes.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmO’Reilly is going off the deep end. He’s off his meds.
He’s been loofah-ing his felafel too much.
He’s seeing a huge librrrul conspiracy where there IS none.
The media in the US are corporate. Over 80% are owned by five big corporations. Corporate media are NOT liberal media, they support the corporate agenda.
For example, NBC is owned by GE. So NBC News edits any mention of GE out of any bad story. This is well-documented.
The “liberal media” canard is a typical Reich Wingnut BIG LIE. The mainstream media are controlled by corporate conservatives and have a proven conservative bias.
MediaMatters and others have proven this conservative bias, so of course O’Reilly is going to attack them.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmcongrats, you must be doing something right, thanks for your service to our country.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmI want to join the chorus and extend my congratulations to TP! This is freaking awesome!
Remember, kids, the only reason O’Really knows he can get away with naming our websites is because he knows the demographic of his viewers. The approximate age of his demo is between ‘Freaking Old’ and ‘A Couple Days Away From Being a Schiavo.’ (So, they probably think the internet is a “bunch of tubes.”)
Congratulations to all of us!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmCongrats, TP!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmWaaaWaaaaa
WaaaWAAAA
April 24th, 2007 at 4:09 pmPost #7 isn’t mine.
This is the second namejacking I’ve noticed today. Folks, if you see something objectionable with my name at the bottom, don’t be too quick to judge me, OK?
Admins, what do you plan to do to address this?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmAbout the bulletin board software, maybe TP doesn’t want to get into the huge mess that RawStory did with theirs. This may be an old fashioned program but it works.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI have a better one for the right wing nutjobs
All right wing pundants and organizations —-> Fox News —–> American public
Seems they are pretty streamlined, get all your false facts and spin from one place
April 24th, 2007 at 4:11 pmWow,we have all this power and we have yet to torture anyone or mismanage 2 wars.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:13 pmBravo TP.
And we’re supposed to believe that Republican causes, i.e. denial of Global Warming, are supported by grass-roots organizations and not by well-funded sources (i.e. Exxon)?
It’s also very misleading that they list MoveOn.org on that list. If there were ever a grass-roots organization that was not controlled by a financial benefactor, MoveOn is it.
And I love how Media Matters goes right into the MSM.
O’Reilly is so full of it it’s not funny. What’s scary is that the audience of Fox News believes them without question.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:13 pmThe only well-oiled character assassination machine I have seen in the US is the one that is run by Karl Rove.
This machine is funded with a BILLION DOLLARS of your taxpayer money, and it is embedded in every federal agency. They are all on the same page with daily talking points sent out by Karl Rove.
The Rovian propaganda machine is the biggest in the history of the US and anything the left has is puny by comparison.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:13 pmThe only people whose names I see being hijacked are are wonderful trolls. In most instances, I get quite a laugh out of it when this is done. Thus, I don’t see the need for registration.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThe righties are scared s***less. They pull something out of their ass about every 5 minutes trying to get control of the mess they are in.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmI also agree bringing up Podesta’s name in mixed company was a social faux pas. It won’t happen again.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmWhen can we expect TP to get current, admins? The software is freely available and would take about two days to fully implement.
Comment by TripMaster Monkey — April 24, 2007 @ 4:07 pm
TMM, linux is just a hobby for me, but I setup a nice phpBB system in an evening, and a nice Postnuke portal front end the next evening. So a proffessional should be able to get a nice system up in a couple hours.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmTalk about projecting ones own faults onto someone else! Does this putz know how foolish he looks when he opens his mouth?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:14 pmdidn’t Toto pull the curtain open with his mouth too BO? Good dog.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:15 pmAn earlier thread spoke of the tension felt by the far right so this is another example of the fear they feel.
good.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmHe sounds like…uhhh….errrr…..Senator McCarthy.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:16 pmThe more Bill O., Rush, etc., pull the stuff,
the more I think back to Stephen Colbert’s salient words,
“FACTS HAVE AN INHERENT LIBERAL BIAS”.
…yeah Bill, in your world, I guess the truth really sucks.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmwell, well, well….thinkprogress.org using typical communist tactics. Make a charicature out of those that find out the truth about you.
Yes, Soros, who is super anti-American funds places like thinkprogress.org. I guess thinkprogress.org doesn’t want people to know the truth.
It isn’t a conspiracy theory when the facts back it up.
thinkprogress.org IS a far left smear website that uses the methods that it claims O’Reilly uses. They love to slander Republicans and Conservatives. They love to smear anyone that doesn’t agree with the left wing ideology.
but as we all know, thinkprogress.org knows that most of its liberal readers aren’t too smart or educated so it knows it can get away with the lies, half-truths, slanders, etc that it posts up on its site.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:17 pmI wish it was just FOX News that has conservative bias.
CNN and MSNBC and ABC have serious conservative bias problems.
CNN hired Glenn Beck, a racist reich wingnut.
ABC ran the “Path to 911″ smear job, which tried to blame Clinton.
And MSNBC has Tucker Carlson and Chris Matthews, a couple of Chimpy’s butt boys.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmZooey
I believe yesterday you said the the left does not smear?
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
Am I smearing? Who’s smearing, baby?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:18 pmDoes thinkprogress.org deny that millions of Soros’ money go into Center for American Progress?
is thinkprogress.org ready to prove that Soros’ finances which show that it has poured millions into the Center for american Progress are not correct?
is this how you lie to your readers thinkprogress.org? I guess you know that your liberal readers aren’t too smart or educated, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:19 pmSo THAT’S how it all works. Gosh that old Soros guy is busy. Hang on… I have to take a call…
That was George Soros on the phone. He was making sure I had my orders to embolden terrorists, give aid and comfort to our enemies, and participate in un-American activities.
Excuse me now, I have another call coming in. I think it’s Barbra Streisand…
April 24th, 2007 at 4:19 pmValiantthehater – so the facts back up O’Reilley. So, can you point to anything, other than your own opinion or empty rhetoric that actually provide these facts?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI can’t tell what’s on O’Reilly’s mind, but – and maybe this is just me – doesn’t O’Reilly’s chart look vaguely like a vagina. I’m sure it’s just me. Sorry
April 24th, 2007 at 4:22 pmSo, the Fox News flow chart would be:
Karl Rove >>> Rupert Murdoch >>> Fox News >>> Bill O’Rielly.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:23 pmI can’t tell what’s on O’Reilly’s mind, but – and maybe this is just me – doesn’t O’Reilly’s chart look vaguely like a vagina. I’m sure it’s just me. Sorry
Comment by Renman
Have you actually seen a vagina…? C’mon….!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:25 pmAm I smearing? Who’s smearing, baby?
Comment by Zooey
You aren’t smearing. It’s all about $$$$$, just like the Swift Boat thing. Sites like these distort the truth and make opinion facts. Both sides do it and you said that liberals/progressives were above it.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:26 pmThanks TP for
the Think part of the Progress–most of the talkings heads and their audience forget that part;
pointing out the craziness that is usually lost in the fluff ‘news’ of the media;
watching the nuts like bill, sean, and rush so we don’t have to;
and most important, encouraging FREE SPEECH with this posty thingymagig.
Thanks!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:27 pman informative graph.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmValiantthehater,
Why does it matter if Soros gives his money to the CAP?
Are you going to argue that my countrymen on the right don’t give large sums of cash to think tanks like the Competitive Enterprise Institute? Or to Ayn Rand? what have you?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI would like to see a chart of the organizations and “think tanks” supported by Richard Mellon Scaith over the years. Along with the time line which shows the evolution (and obvious anti-Clinton orchestration) over the last 20 years. It would make this exaggeration of Soros’ progressive support look puny
Anyone know where to find such a compilation?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:28 pmI am not above you stupid piece of sh!t.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:29 pmI’ve always found it interesting how doing things like quoting someone back to themselves is “smearing them”
April 24th, 2007 at 4:30 pmliberalism=mental disorder – perhaps you would like to provide examples of your alleged distortions.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:32 pmI find it interesting how progressives are labeled as “smearing”, “hateful”, and the like by trolls with screen names that announce their smearing attitude. Valiantthehater and liberalism=mental disorder readily come to mind.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:32 pmYou aren’t smearing. It’s all about $$$$$, just like the Swift Boat thing. Sites like these distort the truth and make opinion facts. Both sides do it and you said that liberals/progressives were above it.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
Are you sure George Soros actually makes money off CAP? Or this site?
Just looking over today’s threads, I see that all of them are backed up with links, video and transcripts. That means we can look for ourselves! Do you actually think we have never called bullshit on TP?
Are you still allowed to comment here freely? Find a con site that lets you do that — and won’t ban you for any dissent.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:33 pmJosh,
why don’t you go take a look at Soros finances. it is all there. Start with the taxes he files in America, which with a freedom of information form, you should be able to get them.
or is it easier for you to believe what thinkprogress.org says and you are too lazy to work at educating yourself.
places like thinkprogress.org rely on people like you to spread their lie. They do all the work for you and you just sit back and read what they post up because they know 99% of the people will not do the research to see if thinkprogress.org is lying or not.
Soros does fund thinkprogress.org. Why don’t you ask the Center for American Progress to show how and who funds them? I am sure they have nothing to hide, right?
in fact, why doesn’t thinkprogress.org show us all who funds them. I mean they claim that O’Reilly is lying, right? why doesn’t thinkprogress.org prove that Soros doesn’t fund them.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI can’t tell what’s on O’Reilly’s mind, but – and maybe this is just me – doesn’t O’Reilly’s chart look vaguely like a vagina. I’m sure it’s just me. Sorry
Comment by Renman
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O’Reilly’s female staff are probably more cautious around him and his falafel, now. He needed a substitute and this chart gives him a double orgasm.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:35 pmCrump,
the problem with Soros is that he is anti-Jew, as he has admitted, he is anti-American, as he has admitted. He hates America, as he has admitted. he cares nothing for the western world.
Soros is a monster of an individual who has aligned himself with the left.
the guy is beyond rich and many on the left worship him as a god.
it never ceases to amaze me how the left claims that its leaders are for the people, yet I ask you. How much money has Soros given to the people, Kerry, two of the richest left wingers in America. How many homes did Soros, Kerry build for the poor people that suffered under Katrina. They were quick to criticize our President, but how many of his million dollar homes did Kerry or Soros open to the poor people of Katrina.
Kerry and Soros alone, without going broke could give away millions to America’s poor, why haven’t they done it yet?
or are they more interested, like John Edwards in getting $400 hair cuts.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pmBoth sides do it and you said that liberals/progressives were above it.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
Name the left’s version of the Swift Boaters.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pmLets just go to the thread below this one with Kyl. When he said that we have never left a battlefield the way dems want to thinkprogress said he voted for withdrawls of Kosovo and Bosnia. We all know that Bosnia and Kosovo were not battlefields at the time. It is a blatant distortion of the facts to smear him and imply hypocricy. That is just in the last hour, you don’t want to play this game I can pull up plenty more for you.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pmValiantthehater,
Why does it matter who funds them? Who funds the right-wing blogs? Again, I certainly hope your assertion isn’t that it is wrong to fund a blog. Especially one that has the same political leaning as one’s self.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:38 pm1. Anyone else notice that given what the individual organizations on the chart are actually madated to do, those arrows are pointed in the wrong dirction.
2. What fool put George Soros at the top, keeping in mind the above it should be the General Public.
3. Do we really?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmSo, in otherwords you don’t have the evidence. The burden is now on me to go out of my way to get a copy of his taxes myself to see whether your argument is correct or not? Please. If you make the argument, then you should have the evidence that backs it up readily available.
I’m not sure how “claiming O’Reilly is lying” (something which they actually don’t do. They’re just making fun of O’Reilly’s assertion that Soros controls the universe) is connected to or even equivalent to whether Soros funds them.
Even if Soros provided them with the bulk of their funding, there is still the issue of whether Soros wields as much control over everything that O’Reilley says he does. I mean, Soros, through a couple layers of other organizations, funds and influences the Mainstream Media? Please!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:39 pmAre you sure George Soros actually makes money off CAP? Or this site?
Just looking over today’s threads, I see that all of them are backed up with links, video and transcripts. That means we can look for ourselves! Do you actually think we have never called bullshit on TP?
Are you still allowed to comment here freely? Find a con site that lets you do that — and won’t ban you for any dissent.
Comment by Zooey
It’s not about making money on this site. It is about using money to further political agenda in order to make money later on. He funds candidates with his money, he works on smearing the other side and then they work for him. No different than the republican party.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:40 pmPatriotc Christian,
don’t assume, my name, Valiantthehater, was given to me by Liberals on this site.
so yes, many of you guys, not all, but many are full of hate, venom, etc, etc.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:40 pmCrump,
oh, I think we can fund whatever we want. The question comes in as to the character of the individual that funds you. Make sense?
I mean, if you get funded by a nazi, or communist, murderer etc wouldn’t you question the validity and honesty of that blog?
I don’t believe that either government or private sector should tell you where your money should go (Democrats love telling people where their money should go). But I have the riight to question the validity of a site according to who is funding it, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:42 pmYeah, I don’t understand why it’s awful to fund a blog. I’m being as open-minded as I can with Valient in this situation. Why is it wrong for Soros to put money into the CAP or TP? Most of the blogs we all read — left, right or center — are probably not-for-profits who probably want our cash. Am I wrong to assume that?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:43 pmWhat really disturbs me and many on this site is how TP is wholly funded by Hillary and her hired thugs. TP doesn’t even try to act like they are giving any of the other Dem canidates even a chance. At least your unbridled support of a pro Iraq war canidate like Hillary really puts most your posts in perspective. It proves your only motive is to smear and promote your agenda. It proves you don’t care at all about the real issue. Your only care is about getting Hilary into power. At least most on this site realize that.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:44 pmJosh,
hmmm….the burden is actually on thinkprogress.org who is making fun of O’Reilly for claiming that thinkprogress.org is not funded by Soros.
O’Reilly provided his evidence last night, now thinkprogress.org can provide (which they didn’t, they just smeared O’Reilly) its evidence that Soros doesn’t fund thinkprogress.org.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:45 pm…he works on smearing the other side and then they work for him. No different than the republican party.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
Prove it.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:45 pmName the left’s version of the Swift Boaters.
Comment by Zooey
I have read on many liberal sites that the Bush administration was behind 9/11. Have you ever heard that? Who funds these attacks?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pmSo Soros is an anti-Jewish…Jew? And um, where did he say he hated America again? And not agreeing with George W. Bush doesn’t count.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:46 pmProve it.
Comment by Zooey
Look at the thread about Kyl, clearly distorting what was true in order to point out a non-existent hypocricy.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pmDemocraticSycamore,
I agree, all blogs are funded some how, well most are. I don’t think that we should tell Soros how to spend his money. I sure don’t want people telling me how to spend my money. He can fund anything he wants, but we can question the people that he funds according to his believes, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:47 pmExcept, at least in this quote, Think Progress doesn’t claim they’re not being funded by Soros. Now, Media Matters said they weren’t funded by Soros. Think Progress is making fun of the allegation that Soros is some sort of master-of-everything-on-the-left.
At least O’Reilly didn’t say that Soros funds Kos or something.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmCenter for American Progress – Think Progress,
April 24th, 2007 at 4:48 pmhas become one of the most popular and fastest growing media information sites. Ray Taliaferro, Bernie Ward, Mike Malloy, Thom Hartman, Ed Shultz, Rachael Maddow, Sam Sedar( so sad what AAR did to him),Randi Rhodes and many others mention thinkprogress.org as their source of information. Also, in my opinion, I believe our comments are read and used as a barometer to help plan for their up coming show. For those who want to make a monetary contribution to a place where it will make a difference – this is the place.
God, I wish that Media Matters really did have any influence with our mainstream media… we wouldn’t be in Iraq for one thing!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:49 pmJosh,
thinkprogress.org is using a very, very, very, very, I mean very old tactic against its enemy O’Reilly. Instead of disputing the facts and showing how O’Relly is 100% wrong, they smear the guy and make fun of him.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:49 pmAnd if those people go even remotely close to any civilized left-leaning blog, they typically get laughed off.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pmI want my name on Dild O’Reilly’s chart too!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:50 pmThat’s not fair!
When will I ever get some Soros bucks?
I have read on many liberal sites that the Bush administration was behind 9/11. Have you ever heard that? Who funds these attacks?
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
I have heard that. People are allowed to speculate, and have personal opinions.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:52 pmProve it.
Comment by Zooey
How about Dan Rather giving false news about Bush’s military record? He clearly is a left winger-I saw him on Bill Maher a few weeks ago. It happens, neither side is above it.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmAnd if those people go even remotely close to any civilized left-leaning blog, they typically get laughed off.
Comment by Josh
I’ve never seen anybody laughing them off.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmValiantthehater
Of course you can question it. Do you have reason to believe that Soros is any of those things you described?
He is a Holocaust survivor. So I doubt he’s a Nazi. He’s wildly wealthy. So communism would act against his own self interest. So I doubt that he supports that viewpoint. And I have never heard of him being tried for murder.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:53 pmLook at the thread about Kyl, clearly distorting what was true in order to point out a non-existent hypocricy.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder
That is not proof of Soros working to smear the other side. All the links are there. We are all free to read them and decide for ourselves. Nothing is hidden.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:54 pmI agree, all blogs are funded some how, well most are.
Comment by Valiantthehater — April 24, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
The rest operate without money?
April 24th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI have heard that. People are allowed to speculate, and have personal opinions.
Comment by Zooey
I agree, there are websited dedicated to spreading those lies. Just like Swift Boat somebody uses their cash to smear the other side to promote their side.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:55 pmIf this were the first time O’Reilly acted up, I may agree with you. However, given how many times O’Reilly has said things like this, and how many times he’s spouted things which were not only wrong, but obviously wrong, at some point attempting to refute him becomes pointless and the best thing one can do is just point and laugh whenever he says something ridiculous.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:55 pmThis is the best troll tag team ever!!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:56 pmTry posting a 9/11 conspiracy diary at Daily Kos then. You’ll probably be laughed away (then banned) so fast it will make your head spin.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:56 pmThat is not proof of Soros working to smear the other side. All the links are there. We are all free to read them and decide for ourselves. Nothing is hidden.
Comment by Zooey
Obviously it is not as blatant as Swift Boat, but the agenda is there. It is not a true depiction of the actual events, and is very mis-leading.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:57 pmFeel honored – they are feeling the heat of melt down!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:58 pmEvidence?
What evidence?
That craptacular little blood-red scare chart he trotted out is “evidence”?
Some right wing wingnut-welfare recipient hack calling Soros “Dr. Evil” is evidence?
Kinda like Colin Powell holding up little pill bottles filled with flour or whatever as “evidence” that Saddam had WMDs.
Ooh look, I just drew up a chart in Powerpoint with arrows connecting Bill O’Reilly to the Ku Klux Klan, the Bilderbgers, and the Bavarian Illuminati! Bill O’Reilly is a racist, one-world-government promoting sex pervert! And I have EVIDENCE!!!!11!one!
April 24th, 2007 at 4:58 pmTry posting a 9/11 conspiracy diary at Daily Kos then. You’ll probably be laughed away (then banned) so fast it will make your head spin.
Comment by Josh
I’ll take your word for it.
April 24th, 2007 at 4:59 pm“I’ve never seen anybody laughing them off.
Try posting a 9/11 conspiracy diary at Daily Kos then. You’ll probably be laughed away (then banned) so fast it will make your head spin.
Comment by Josh — April 24, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
you aren’t being serious, right? thinkprogress.org is full of left wingers that swear that 9/11 was an inside job, so is dailycoocoos, huffandpuff, etc, etc.
you aren’t being very honest. watch out for tripmaster monkey, Juan C and others here that swear the USA created 9/11.
you are either lying or too knew to this site. but I know you are 100% lying about the other left wing sites since they are full of peole that claim Bush did 9/11.
so please go sell your lies to someone that isn’t educated enough to believe them.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAlso, there appears to be this argument that, for sites like Think Progress to be “above the fray,” then all liberal websites everywhere should be.
Are there liberal websites peddling crap? Yeah. The problem is that while the liberals who peddle cap tend to be in the nooks and crannies of the internet, the conservatives who peddle crap have millions upon millions of watchers, listeners, and readers on TV, on the radio, and online.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:02 pmIf true, so what if he funds think progress. Every followed the right wing money chart with heritage fundation, american enterprise institute, federalist society, blah, blah, blah. OH and lets not for Moon and the Fox gaziliiaries that fund the media outlets FAUX news and Washington Lies.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“oh, I think we can fund whatever we want. The question comes in as to the character of the individual that funds you. Make sense?”
Here’s an idea. Let’s make a list of all the funders on the left and the right. All of the ones who are despicable people are lined up and shot.
I’m guessing the right loses big in that trade-off.
I like this game. Take it a step further. Let’s line up all the elected and appointed people with IQs below 100. Bang bang.
Well, there goes the White House and all of its cronies.
More, more! Let’s use the same filters for blogs. Ooops, b’bye to Valientthehater…
April 24th, 2007 at 5:03 pmAs I said, then go to Daily Kos and try. I dare you to.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:04 pmoh noes! the libruls have money!!!
WAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:05 pmI’d count BO as an Old World Odor
April 24th, 2007 at 5:05 pmHere’s an idea. Let’s make a list of all the funders on the left and the right. All of the ones who are despicable people are lined up and shot.
I’m guessing the right loses big in that trade-off.
Exactly, As Sam Seder stated – you do not find Democratic political strategist, opinion people on their death beds having a mea culpa on their sleazy lives. But every Republican operative comes out sooner and later and asked for forgiveness.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:07 pmValiantthehater,
I think that unless you have evidence that TP is “full†of people that swear 9-11 was inside job, you shouldn’t say things like that. I don’t think it was an inside job, and I happen to enjoy posting here regularly. I’m sure there are some who think that. But I’m also sure there are some who post on right-wing blogs that are equally whacko about several topics.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:08 pmOreilly has been wrong on so many things and had so many conspiracies and idiotic wars on christmas and easter. One day it’s the Stalinists and the next day it’s the Adolphists, BORe is like crazy Ivan, allways veering off course…
I don’t know Soros, nor ever been paid to post here, as some of the trolls here perhaps do. I do get a kick outta BORe, he is acting isn’t he? FOX news is really a comedy show, right?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:09 pm“thinkprogress.org is full of left wingers that swear that 9/11 was an inside job”
There are a very few. How ’bout you count them all up and compare to the total number of posters. Say, for the past three months.
On more than one occasion, I’ve responded by posting a link to the article from Skeptic magazine debunking the idea, but as with all conspiracy theories, it will never die.
So what?
This doesn’t change the facts that the right wing side has been basically wrong about everything for the past six years, and shows no signs of self-correction.
Be gone, demon. I rebuke you. Get thee hence.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:11 pmThe real chart
April 24th, 2007 at 5:12 pmValiantthehater,
Explain to me why you have such a problem with Soros fudning what he wants, but yet Rupert Murdoch, who has the the entire FOX News empire at his disposal, is so without reproach. Why does it matter?
I guess I’m still trying to figure out why you care about this so much. Maybe TP isn’t trying to say it isn’t true, because it is true, and it doesn’t matter. Soros plays for one team, Murdoch for the other.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:13 pmgorn by any other name,
Actually, there are a lot of us here that believe Bush was complicit in 9/11. We just aren’t allowed to talk about it on TP. So much for free speech.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:16 pmAND Murdoch ADMITTED in January that they “tried to influence the Iraq war toward the Bush administration”.
Hardly news.
PROPAGANDA
April 24th, 2007 at 5:16 pmValiantthehater
Don’t mean to get off topic, but – if a few answers could be given to some unanswered questions maybe the conspiracy theories could be put to an end. Instead of answers we get this angry ‘holier than thou’ attitude of how can anyone think such thoughts? Maybe the American people could not handle the real truth.
Instead of attitudes how about some answers?
When it takes a week to set up a building for demolition, how was building 7 ‘brought down’ in just a few hours?
As it is mentioned in PNAC on page 51, we needed a new Pearl Harbor for the American people to buy t the Empire building planned – why did Bush use the term “we had a Pearl Harbor” just after 9/11
April 24th, 2007 at 5:22 pmThere are sooooooo many more questions and I do not want to take up this complete board, but why can we not just get answers instead of the defensive attitudes?
What an honor, to be hated by that big fat walking talking turd.
Shove it B.O., shove it till it hurts, then shove somemore.
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 24th, 2007 at 5:24 pmCongrats, Think Progress!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:26 pmIf it really comes down to choosing Soros’ Empire or Sun Myung Moon’s, who is not going to pick Soros?
Seriously, if that’s the choice, Righties, you’re saying you choose to be Moonies??
If so, give up all your sanctimonious pro-Israel ammo, ’cause, you know, Soros really is a Holocaust survivor. Can’t have it both ways, Righty.
April 24th, 2007 at 5:32 pmHey BORe, look on the back of a one dollar bill, it says a ‘New Order has begun’
That BORe sure is funny!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:36 pmNo Valiantthescumsuckingsubhuman, we spew hate at you because, frankly, you deserve it.
Hating the Scumsuckingsubhuman Repuke Mafia daily
April 24th, 2007 at 5:38 pmWhat an honor to be part of a “a very well-oiled, effective character assassination machine†that uses the dastardly technique of reporting facts. How cruel!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:44 pmdoes CAP/Think Progress even get any money for Soros?
Comment by Josh — April 24, 2007 @ 4:04 pm
Oh, nooo. Of course they don’t! Perish the thought!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:48 pmNo Valiantthescumsuckingsubhuman, we spew hate at you because, frankly, you deserve it.
Hating the Scumsuckingsubhuman Repuke Mafia daily
Comment by Buck Fush
LOL!
April 24th, 2007 at 5:50 pmCoool, does Think Progress get black, completely silent helicopters to carry out its portion of the world domination?
April 24th, 2007 at 5:53 pm“thinkprogress.org is full of left wingers that swear that 9/11 was an inside jobâ€
The RWN’s are mentally unbalanced. (Gov Study)
April 24th, 2007 at 6:02 pmhttp://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976825305
Billo – the wolf is at the door ….
Run, scurry, flee …
Oh no, he’s right be hind you!
ggrrghrrrgh, chomp
April 24th, 2007 at 6:08 pm“Actually, there are a lot of us here that believe Bush was complicit in 9/11. We just aren’t allowed to talk about it on TP. So much for free speech.”
I believe he was complicit too – in terms of incompetence and being asleep at the switch, and generally a lying, bumbling weasel.
As for conspiracy, sorry that’s just nuts. Even if we assume he’s that evil, for sure he isn’t that smart. This guy can’t find his own bunghole with both thumbs, a flashlight, and a rear-view cam. How could he possibly pull of the most heinous mass murder in national history?
And anyway, I find the debunking info far more credible than the conspiracy info.
http://www.skeptic.com/eskeptic/06-09-11.html
The conspiracy theory isn’t doing us any favors. There are so many better reasons to impeach this lunatic.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:10 pmin fact, why doesn’t thinkprogress.org show us all who funds them. I mean they claim that O’Reilly is lying, right? why doesn’t thinkprogress.org prove that Soros doesn’t fund them.
Comment by Valiantthehater — April 24, 2007 @ 4:34 pm
Why should they. Progressives aren’t complaining. You don’t like it, go away.
How can you tell O’Reilly is Lying? His mouth is moving.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“Smear anyone he wants in a variety of ways” = Use several outlets to tell the truth about the stupid shit people have said so everyone can see what a dumbass they are while we can only make crap up and put it on Fox Noise.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:15 pmIs it true? If not, so what? If so, then THANK YOU MR. SOROS!!
April 24th, 2007 at 6:16 pmNo different than the republican party.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 24, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
Exactly, we learned from the worst.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:16 pmI would love to address this and post some information, but we aren’t allowed to talk about it here and the post will get deleted.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:20 pmMazal Tov; you make an old Stevenson bubbie proud.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:39 pmNo different than the republican party.
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder — April 24, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
Exactly, we learned from the worst.
Comment by Shane
I agree, are you proud of that?
April 24th, 2007 at 6:41 pmthe problem with Soros is that he is anti-Jew, … he is anti-American, … He hates America …
Soros is a monster …
Comment by Valiantthehater
Comment by liberalism=mental disorder (The name itself is rather insulting. Of course, that’s ok if you’re here for intelligent discourse.)
I’m glad to see you trolls wouldn’t smear anybody.
April 24th, 2007 at 6:54 pm“I would love to address this and post some information, but we aren’t allowed to talk about it here and the post will get deleted.”
Probably just as well as I’m in no position to debate it, and this topic can’t possibly be treated seriously in a forum like this with a bunch of amateurs comparing speculations.
If you have disagreements with the Skeptic article, I’d suggest you’d be well served to write a letter in detail to Skeptic, who most likely will publish it in full in the next issue and allow the author to respond in full.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:25 pmI will read it in full first, because unlike our republican troll, I like to read stuff before I start trashing it. I would love for somebody to prove that our government isn’t involved.
Also, while you see me post on here that Bush is a moron, I am talking about the things he does. He isn’t as dumb as he would have you believe. It doesn’t matter how much of a puppet you are, NOBODY gets to be president without being smart and that includes dumb fu*k Bush.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:46 pmComment by liberalism=mental disorder (The name itself is rather insulting. Of course, that’s ok if you’re here for intelligent discourse.)
I’m glad to see you trolls wouldn’t smear anybody.
Comment by Vinnie
I’m not above smearing anybody, I’m willing to admit that which the left is unable to do.
April 24th, 2007 at 7:59 pmI will read it in full first, because unlike our republican troll, I like to read stuff before I start trashing it. I would love for somebody to prove that our government isn’t involved.
Comment by Spudge_Boy
So predictable and so funny.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:01 pm“Also, while you see me post on here that Bush is a moron, I am talking about the things he does. He isn’t as dumb as he would have you believe.”
It’s an interesting topic: is Bush stupid but not evil, or is he smart but using a cover of stupidity to mask his evil nature. I’m of the opinion that he is more stupid than evil, that his evil is the by-product of his stupidness. I don’t think you can easily fake his level of public stupidity for six years, and if you look at his history, he’s been an utter failure at everything he’s touched. He was a C student in college (Yale or not doesn’t matter), he was a frat boy burnout, he was a no-show in his National Guard service, he was a failure in the oil business, he was a failure in the baseball business, he was a crappy governer of Texas, and he’s the worst president in US history. Now, that’s one hell of a long time to be pretending to be stupider than dirt just to avoid one’s evil tendencies.
I think the simpler answer is that the American system of electing a president is so f’d up that it’s quite possible to elect a moron puppet, kind of comparable to how possible it is to be rich and famous even when you have no talent (Britney Spears, etc), if you have the right look and the right handlers.
For god sake, this dimbulb got has arse handed to him, and suffered public humiliation, in every Presidential debate. Remember the dopey blinking when he couldn’t answer a simple question? But he won anyway. A little help from Jeb, the SCOTUS, and Diebold doesn’t hurt either. Add a nation with Clinton fatigue, a major terr-rist attack, an apathetic electorate, a docile press bludgeoned toward the right for a decade, and an impotent Congress, a major boost from PNAC aqnd the neocon elite, and an unholy alliance with the religious right, and it’s not much of a stretch to elect Mr. Dunce. Twice. It’s the confluence of an amazing series of factors to lift him to undeserved heights. He’s Forest Gump brought to life, without the likable and innocent qualities.
“It doesn’t matter how much of a puppet you are, NOBODY gets to be president without being smart and that includes dumb fu*k Bush.”
Sorry, I don’t believe it. He has a stubborn streak that has been effective at times, but I don’t detect much wattage in his bulbs. Certainly not enough to engineer something as gargantuan as 911.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:03 pm“I’m not above smearing anybody, I’m willing to admit that which the left is unable to do.”
I guess you need to find some way, any way, to get a hard on. Bet your momma is proud.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:04 pmApparently OR gets his facts from a new source, The Protocols of the Elders of Soros….
April 24th, 2007 at 8:25 pmI guess you need to find some way, any way, to get a hard on. Bet your momma is proud.
Comment by gorn by any other name
Clearly you are not above smearing either.
April 24th, 2007 at 8:59 pm“Clearly you are not above smearing either.”
Eye for an eye, dude. You want to play in the sewer, don’t whine about the slime.
But unlike you, I wouldn’t initiate it, much less be PROUD of it.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:12 pm“Clearly you are not above smearing either.”
However, I should point out that what I said was not a smear. A smear is an vicious attack on character based upon an untruth.
You bragged about smearing people. One would be proud of such a thing, only if they “got off” on it in some fashion. A lot of trolls get their kicks that way. The “hard on” comment is a metaphor. For all I know, you’re unable to obtain one at all, perhaps lacking the organ entirely.
April 24th, 2007 at 9:16 pmHowever, I should point out that what I said was not a smear. A smear is an vicious attack on character based upon an untruth.
You bragged about smearing people. One would be proud of such a thing, only if they “got off†on it in some fashion. A lot of trolls get their kicks that way. The “hard on†comment is a metaphor. For all I know, you’re unable to obtain one at all, perhaps lacking the organ entirely.
Comment by gorn by any other name
I never bragged about anything, I simply have enough character to admit I am not above it. You continue to smear, but my only “smear” is my username, which is meant as a joke obviously. I guess I have a knack for pointing out inconsistencies by the left.
April 24th, 2007 at 10:53 pmIs it my imagination, or does Dild O’Reilly’s chart look susupiciously like a diagram of the female reproductive track?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:25 pmGood God, is the Weiner Disciple still here?
Are you really a “Team” of Weiner Worshippers?
Sort of a “Weiner Dream” Team?
April 24th, 2007 at 11:28 pmliberalism=mental disorder ,
There are posters like Jay Randal and Gibson Jr. who support Al-Qarda, Hizb’Allah and Iran on this site too!
April 24th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWell, you said you weren’t above smearing anybody. Nuff said.
I agree, you said that.
No, I really didn’t smear you. I just said it sounds like you get some enjoyment from smearing and I wondered if that would make your mother proud of you.
Oh yes, a bloody riot.
You can point out inconsistencies without smearing. Smearing is what was done to John Kerry, for example. It’s one thing to have a little verbal joust with some anonymous person on a forum like this, quite another to create snarky disinformation campaigns slandering good people. It shouldn’t be necessary to create lies about someone just because you have political disagreement. If that is the only way to defeat them, it says something about the depth of your position.
I could point out that you’re a jerk – big deal. The world won’t change because of it. But if you create a smear campaign, for example, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Islam based on his name or the fact that he went to a grade school in Indonesia, then that would make you a pathetic sum loser.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:44 amoh, I’m quaking in my boots! BILL MOYERS is part of a left-wing
April 25th, 2007 at 2:41 amconspiracy? give me a break!!!!
Someone like Olberman needs to lay out a similar flowchart detailing how money flows from Republican billionaires into various “think tanks” , “foundations,” and “institutes.” I know there are several, but T boone Pickens is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:05 amTry Richard Mellon Scaife for another. I also believe the Coors and Mars Candy fortunes go to back alot of this nonsense. Clear Channel Communications is/was the largest owner of AM radio stations in the country until recently, when they filed for bankruptcy and sold themselves off, if I’m not mistaken. I guess endlessly broadcasting Rush, Heil Hannity, and the Weiner King were not as profitable as they had hoped.
April 25th, 2007 at 9:53 amYou can point out inconsistencies without smearing. Smearing is what was done to John Kerry, for example. It’s one thing to have a little verbal joust with some anonymous person on a forum like this, quite another to create snarky disinformation campaigns slandering good people. It shouldn’t be necessary to create lies about someone just because you have political disagreement. If that is the only way to defeat them, it says something about the depth of your position.
I could point out that you’re a jerk – big deal. The world won’t change because of it. But if you create a smear campaign, for example, trying to link Barack Obama to radical Islam based on his name or the fact that he went to a grade school in Indonesia, then that would make you a pathetic sum loser.
Comment by gorn by any other name
Smearing can also be what Michael Moore did in his movie that lied multiple times. Smearing can be what Dan Rather did in inventing news about Bush’s military record. The left if not above it, never has and never will.
April 25th, 2007 at 10:05 amBahahahahaha.
~Sean
April 25th, 2007 at 10:56 amIt’s also very misleading that they list MoveOn.org on that list. If there were ever a grass-roots organization that was not controlled by a financial benefactor, MoveOn is it.
Comment by Vinnie — April 24, 2007 @ 4:13 pm
Now, for the first time, the Hungarian-born billionaire has injected his opinions and his wealth into the electoral politics of his adopted nation. Soros has also given $2.5 million to MoveOn.org, a six-year-old group that uses the Internet to rally 2 million anti-Bush activists.
Soros’s soft money contributions to 527s have disappointed some former allies. “He’s made a decision to go from being part of the solution to being part of the problem,” says Fred Wertheimer, CEO of Washington-based Democracy 21. “Our concern is that 527s are becoming a vehicle whereby large contributors can gain undue influence, and Soros has chosen to make himself the poster child for 527s.”
Possibly MoveOn.org began as a grass roots movement. I don’t know about that. But, obviously it hasn’t stayed that way. And, yes, Soros has the right to contribute to any cause he chooses as long as it’s legal. O’Reilly is just making public what Soros does behind the scenes. Nothing wrong with that either.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:11 pmTP – my favorite blog is now officially an O’Reilly target! GO TP! CONGRATULATIONS on such a wonderful accomplishment. Nothing says “truth” more than O’Reilly calling you a liar! :-)
April 25th, 2007 at 5:06 pm