How the media helped send us to war.
How the media helped send us to war.
Bill Moyers’ new documentary, Buying the War, airs tonight on PBS at 9pm. The Washington Post’s Tom Shales calls it “one of the most gripping and important pieces of broadcast journalism so far this year, but it’s as disheartening as it is compelling.”
Moyers and producer Kathleen Hughes use alarming evidence and an array of respected journalists to make the case that, in the rage that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the media abandoned their role as watchdog and became a lapdog instead.
Exhibit A — the first event recalled in this report — is a news conference by President Bush on March 6, 2003, which Moyers says is two weeks before Bush “will order America to war.” The press conference was a sham, with Bush calling only on “friendly” reporters who’d ask friendly questions. The corker was this scorching investigative query: “Mr. President, how is your faith guiding you?”
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everything Bush does is a sham… only friendlies are allowed to be near him…
this special sounds good… can’t wait for the inevitable “liberal media” jabs to follow…
April 25th, 2007 at 12:09 pm“Mr. President, how is your faith guiding you?â€
Puke.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:12 pmLaughable lies from the propagandist Moyers. What is sad is this is our tax dollars at work to spew this rubbish.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pmHow can a list of respected journalists include Dan Rather?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:13 pmMoyers and producer Kathleen Hughes use alarming evidence and an array of respected journalists to make the case that, in the rage that followed the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, the media abandoned their role as watchdog and became a lapdog instead.
Curse you, liberal media!
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April 25th, 2007 at 12:15 pmPeadick1, what took you so long? Don’t you think it would be helpful to watch the entire show before you condemn it as rubbish or did you receive your orders to smear sight unseen from KKKarl this morning.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:16 pmGreat quote from the article:
April 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pm
I guess Moyer’s opinion now constitutes evidence in moonbat la la land.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:17 pmPatrick is pissing his pants, as usual. **yawn**
April 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pmPatrick1 doesn’t approve. So, it must be true.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:18 pmBill Moyers is a journalist who can be fairly described as “liberal”. Unfortunately for the right, that measn that, aside from displaying concern for his fellow man in his work, he’s also an extremely talented and ethical journalist who is universally respected in the industry and society.
There was a time when “liberal” meant good things — tolerance, curiosity, generosity, forward-looking. It still means those things, of course. But the corporate media has allowed the right to replace those characteristics with their own demonizing bugaboos. It’s just kind of funny that they have to be very careful when discussing fundamentalist Muslim societies (”conservative”) and the direction in which we would like them to move (”liberalize”.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmBrent Bozo Bozell on Fox of course tried to slam Moyers. Image that, Fox going after a truth teller.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmLaughable lies from the propagandist Moyers. What is sad is this is our tax dollars at work to spew this rubbish.
Comment by Patrick1
What a true Orwellist you are.
Truth from one of the most honest reporters ever and you call it a lie
Yet lies from the Bush administration you call the truth
That koolaide your drinking must be very potent.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:19 pmIt is keeping you in a state of perpetual delusion.
It is about time the media Bill Moyer comes out with the true. More power to Bill Moyer.
Bush and his admin. lied about the Iraq war. We went into an illegal and unjust war for OIL and to make Bushies cronies RICHER.
We need to bring our Troops home NOW.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:21 pmPee 1,
Rathers, not respected?
I know you live in reality few of us have experienced, but please remember the info in that document was accurate. The fact someone had scanned it into a Word document was the issue.
Lies from Moyers? Have you seen this show? If so, how?
Do you realize you’re calling a video of Bush a lie?
You know, we’ve had some trolls here who can actually debate. Not often, mind you, but some.
You, on the other hand, give credence to what all of us here have believed all along…stupidity, arrogance and blatant lies make up today’s CONservative movement.
Any questions?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmOf course, the press conference was a sham; what else can it be when a sham president orders it? That’s why people find the unvarnished, unpropagandized version of news on the internet and no longer listen to the news stations or purchase newspapers. For the most part, it’s a highly edited, biased & bastardized version of what we find as the truth from our online sources AND it’s “old news” since the internet brings us the news at warp speed. Who needs the MSM any longer? Clearly, the people are telling the MSM that they are becoming dinosaurs and totally obsolete & irrelevant.
This Moyers special will simply confirm what people already know. The MSM is complicit with this corrupt administration and is used as their personal propaganda machine, while all the time spouting off about the “liberal media” as a total smokescreen.
I believe that in the near future there will be an array of newscasters on the unemployment lines. The combination of functional obsolescence and being a mouthpiece for propaganda will result in their total demise.
Everyone knows they’re all sycophantic whores anyway.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmLooks like patrick has taken his cue from Oreilly…Who started his smear campaign against Moyers last night.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buM3ygJVY8
April 25th, 2007 at 12:23 pmOh….so the “troll du jour”’s moniker today is Patrick1, eh? Yesterday it was Frank Matthews! The day before it was Firehead so I guess he’s been “jaked-off” enough and pounded into the ground that he’s no longer using that one of his schizophrenic monikers here.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:24 pmI cannot wait to see this program this evening. I give Moyer’s a lot of credit for putting this documentary together–sadly, we needed it 5 years ago.
Patrick, if you are unable to offer some kind of insight and thoughtfulness to TP–then please go away. You are very limited and I would say quite challenged in your logic and in your ability to think. If you have nothing constructive to offer here why not simply stay with your “little friends” over on the fringe–the 32 percenters.
If you really want to see how our media was hijacked by the right go over to http://www.Coolaqua.com and scroll down and read the article on GE/NBC and the role Jack Welch and Rove played in bringing about the changes in our media. It’s all corporate all the time.
I understand Moyer’s couldn’t get the ususal suspects to give him an interview Ailes, Hannity,etc. Could it be because they would be off their own turf and their arguments could stand up to close examination?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:25 pmMoyers has become little more than a moonbat who lives off the taxpayer tit. He offers no facts, simply as quoted above his opinion.
Dan Rather based a knew story on forged documents, is that what I should respect?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:28 pmPatrick1,
I’m genuinely interested in your answer to the following questions. What do you think the function of journalism is in a free, democratic society? How do you define “propaganda”?
Any valid criticism of Moyers and his program, as opposed to thoughtless rantings, requires that one first decide what one thinks the function of journalism is, and the standards that must be satisfied to fulfill that function. I’m inviting you to convince me that you do have a valid criticism.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:29 pmPatrick1 blurts:
Come back when you can form a cogent sentence, Pattie.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:30 pmDan Rather based a knew story on forged documents, is that what I should respect?
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
Bush and Cheney based a bullsh*t war on the forged Niger documents, is that what we should respect?
Tool.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:35 pmOur world has since 9/11 become one of subterfuge and increasing fear. The Bush Administration clearly lied to the American public about the reasons for going to war. Since the declaration that weapons of mass destruction were located in Iraq, none have been found. A catastrophic waste of money, and the American people were betrayed. Fundamentally, we as a country, are a nation of rebels, fighting dearly for what matters most to us. But, in a war where there is no distinct enemy, we cannot battle in the same way. There is no military solution to a battle which must be waged on a humanitarian front. As Americans, we need a leader who will recognize that war is not the salve to put on the wound that was created when 3,000 Americans died in New York. Poverty creates the terrorists and militants that continually emerge from the woodwork on a daily basis killing innocent people and our soldiers. In order to fight the war on terror, we need America to take off the war paint and put on our gloves. If we eliminate, through humanitarian efforts, the grounds for terrorism; our world can return be a safer place for all to live . The war needs to fought in a new way, and that we won’t stand for losing another Iraqi’s life or another brave American soldier. Not one more. End it now. There is another way to win.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:40 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1buM3ygJVY8
Comment by HSUK — April 25, 2007 @ 12:23 pm
Thanks for the link O’Reilly and Malkin sound like they’re racing to the psych ward. That Kalb guy didn’t back down, I’m surprised O’Reilly didn’t shut off his microphone.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:41 pmJournalism is the finding and presenting of facts. Who, what, when, where and how.
propaganda [propəˈgӕndə] noun
the activity of spreading particular ideas, opinions etc according to an organized plan, eg by a government; the ideas etc spread in this way.
The only thing to add in Moyers case is he gets the taxpayers who disagree with him to pay for it.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:42 pmpattie of the small one, given that the program in question hasn’t yet aired, the only access you have to it is the embedded video in this post.
Can you tell us what “lies” you’re referring to in this video that Bill Moyers told? As near as I can see, he’s presenting interviews with established journalists who covered the buildup to the Iraq War.
Can you identify any of these lies that has you so cheesed off?
April 25th, 2007 at 12:51 pmYour own site put up a quote of Moyers’ opinion. Why is this thread on here since TP hasn’t seen it either. Because they too were unable to come up with any facts presented in the propoganda piece.
The fact that Dan Rather is in the thing dooms any hope of it having credibility with anyone other than the left wing loons who lurk around here.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:55 pmGreat quote from the article:
Former CNN president Walter Isaacson tells Moyers: “One of the great pressures we’re facing in journalism now is, it’s a lot cheaper to hire thumb-suckers and pundits and have talk shows on the air than actually have bureaus and reporters.â€
Comment by TripMaster Monkey
Spot on, TMM. Also, see this David Sarota blog post at Working Assets.
From that post:
Summary, “journalists” today seem to lack too much in courage and enterprise to serve us well.
April 25th, 2007 at 12:59 pmYour own site put up a quote of Moyers’ opinion. Why is this thread on here since TP hasn’t seen it either. Because they too were unable to come up with any facts presented in the propoganda piece.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:55 pm
Look, patty, if you’re going to hang around with the grownups, you’re going to have to try to make a little sense.
Since when is “opinion” a “lie”?
The thread is up here because TP has seen at least this preview and decided it was something that would interest its visitors.
Your last quoted sentence is just blather. You sound like the teacher in Charlie Brown.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:00 pmBottom line: the connection between Sadam and Al Qaeda and WMDs never existed. Noone, repeat noone, disputes that (except Cheney all alone, yelling from the bunker). The administration either lied or at best, completely fcuked up ordering the deaths of tens of thousands of men, women, and children. The media was an integral part of pulling it off. What’s hard to understand about that? To think we even need another documentary to tell us this is amazing in and of itself. Man, do we have a lot of fcuking idiots in this country or what? Go Bill!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:01 pm#31 Then why did Bill Clinton, Al Gore, British intel and William Cohen say there was?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:06 pmPatrick you are very tiresome and your little “tirades” are terribly boring. Why don’t you go over to Malkin’s sight and you can play with the Bush/Cheney “amen corner.”
I wouldn’t watch Bill O’Really if he were the last person left on television. Thank TP for the link. I think Billy-boy is out of his mind. He is a pathetic fool for this administration but it proves what the article on Coolaqua so cogently provides all of us.
We have been had by ALL of the networks–liberal bias, my arse. There is no liberal bias. Like the lies about Iraq, WMD, Walter Reed, ad nauseum it is a myth.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pmWOW! The right wing spin machine is in overtime. They are running scared! There must be some good stuff in this.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:08 pmI’m sure the Moyers’ tome will include: him reaming CNN for not reporting on the barbarities of Saddam’s regime so CNN could keep operating in Iraq.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:13 pmCrickets chirping…
Comment by Burning Crosses — April 25, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Your right BC…There must be “some good stuff” in this documentary as Hannity and fellow conservative Brent Bozell were also smearing Moyers on last night H&C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOAIogyK0eI
April 25th, 2007 at 1:17 pmPatrick1,
Please cite, with specific time index references, all examples of “lies”, “falsehoods”, and “opinions” that you assert are in Mr. Moyer’s documentary.
If you cannot, then you are at the very least a lying smear merchant and also in the realm of libel.
Your credibility is on the line here. Either you back up your assertions with facts, or no one here could ever reasonably or in good conscience assign any credibility whatsoever to anything that you have to say.
Clock is ticking…
April 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pmPoor Patrick1, the wheels came off his cart on this one!
That’s what happens, when the unstoppable force of truth, hits the immovable partisan with a head filled with rocks!
Patrick1, you’re a sad, sad, pathetic little man – left as the “cheerleader”, having to back his failed “cheerleader”. You have the pity of all (well most) of us Patrick1. Ask your doctor to up your dosages, it might help with your uncontrolled anxiety.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:18 pmPatrick1,
Thanks for replying to my questions. I see, though, that you have no interest in genuine debate on the merits of different points of view about this issue. You have no interest in discovering whether your view is as correct as you think. You have no interest in applying your own definitions as the evidence warrants. Your only interest is in attacking Moyers and the left. For whatever reason–poor education, lack of adequate reasoning skills, lack of adequate role models, possibly being paid to disrupt on TP–it’s best to ignore you. I honestly regret this, but experience has taught me that any attempt to engage you in logical thought about this issue would waste my time. That time is better used educating my students so that they can contribute to political discourse at a higher level than you can, at least at present.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:19 pmI’m sure the Moyers’ tome will include: him reaming CNN for not reporting on the barbarities of Saddam’s regime so CNN could keep operating in Iraq.
Crickets chirping…
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
So barbarities are the *reason* for invading another country? Well then, why aren’t we already in Sudan, Saudi Arabia, Israel and Pakistan? The barbarities they inflict on minorities and dissidents is as bad or worse than Saddam!
What’s your excuse Patrick1? St*pid hypocritical lying Jake*ss.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:20 pmIf you cannot, then you are at the very least a lying smear merchant and also in the realm of libel. Comment by Fed the Fcuk Up! — April 25, 2007 @ 1:18 pm
Patrick1 never leaves the realm of libel, just like his fellow swiftboaters, when Democrats are involved. The poor little st*pid hypocrite!
April 25th, 2007 at 1:21 pmis a news conference by President Bush on March 6, 2003, which Moyers says is two weeks before Bush “will order America to war.†The press conference was a sham, with Bush calling only on “friendly†reporters who’d ask friendly questions. The corker was this scorching investigative query: “Mr. President, how is your faith guiding you?â€
This is an opinion.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:24 pmJust ask me.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#41,
The opinion, perhaps, of the reviewer, but has nothing to do with Mr. Moyer’s documentary.
Is that all that you’ve got?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pmVideo tape this program! Then show it to others. This is what Bush and his minions are most afraid of.
Vampires can’t survive the sunlight, and neither can the current Republican party.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:29 pm#31. We would never have been so stupid as to invade Iraq under these flimsy pretenses had Gore been president. Obviously everyone else was misled by very powerful people (Cheney and Co.). Well, they used to be powerful. Now they’re discredited, isolated, and on their way to the becoming the worst administration in US history.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:31 pmCalling a news conference a sham is an opinion.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:32 pmNot exactly American heroes like Ben Franklin or Thomas Paine or many of the other journalists and printers that helped make the American Revolution happen now are they? Hell they arent even up to deep throat level either.
I guess some journalists arent heroes for the truth at all… but shills and propagandists.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:33 pmComment by Patrick1
Nothing you say has any credibility. I suggest you just shutup and do alot more listening and thinking.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:34 pmOf course if Gore were President Iraq would be the least of our problems. Osama’s office in the Empire State building for example.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:36 pmComment by Patrick1
Nothing you say has any credibility. I suggest you just shutup and do alot more listening and thinking.
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr — April 25, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Yeah, good luck with THAT.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:39 pmBeing from the UK I’m hoping this excellent looking documentary will appear on the net somewhere come Thursday…I’m sure it will and can’t wait to see it.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:39 pmThe only thing to add in Moyers case is he gets the taxpayers who disagree with him to pay for it.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
Gee Patrick1lesssane, since almost nobody has seen the entire show that airs tonight it’s quite presumptuous for you to say taxpayers disagree with him.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmAnd if you want to guesstimate I’d say the 91% that hate Cheney probably agree but if you want to split hairs I’ll give you the 70% who think the President is a liar benefit and say maybe 30% disagree with Moyers.
But that’s just you and your sycophant buddies without a clue.
#46,
Once again, an opinion, perhaps, of the reviewer. And, once again, has nothing to do with Mr. Moyer’s documentary.
So, I see now what many here have been saying is very much true, and that is that the poster known as Patrick1 has no credibility whatsoever. Irrefutable evidence supplied by yourself leads to no other conclusion. In fact, you then readily admit that your online persona of Patrick1 is a smear merchant by its own admission.
Goodbye Patrick1, and good riddance.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:41 pmOf course if Gore were President Iraq would be the least of our problems. Osama’s office in the Empire State building for example.
Comment by Patrick1
Really?
You mean sorta like that “office” that Bush secretly negotiated with Pakistan in the days after 911?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:45 pm34 -> 41 -> 49
April 25th, 2007 at 1:47 pmThis says all that is necessary about the futility of engaging Patrick1trickpony in a debate of any kind at any time.
He offers no facts, simply as quoted above his opinion.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:28 pm
While you, Patrick, cannot even offer your own opinion most of the time and have to copy and paste someone else’s opinion, then try to pass it off as your own.
Remember: Those of us who were against Pres Bush’s decision to launch an invasion on Iraq were right -no WMDs, no “reconstituted” nuclear program, no threat to its neighbors let alone the US.
We should pay any attention to anything you might incoherently babble in defence of this administration because….?
April 25th, 2007 at 1:49 pmEveryone believed that Saddam had a WMD program including Saddam and Bill Clinton. This was hardly an invention of Bush as we know from statements made by Clinton in 1998, so that statement of Gregor is nonsense.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:53 pmYour right BC…There must be “some good stuff†in this documentary as Hannity and fellow conservative Brent Bozell were also smearing Moyers on last night H&C.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOAIogyK0eI
Comment by HSUK — April 25, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
Really Hannity and O’Reilly have their undies in a bundle over this show. Ironically they have introduced it to all their blockheads who would never have known about it otherwise.
Funny that Bozell is going on about the taxpayer money used for the Moyers show when the Republicans have already cut funding for PBS. And they don’t worry about the hundreds of billions spent on the Iraq war that the majority opposes but the small amount of tax dollars that PBS gave to Moyers sends them over the edge. I’ve donated to PBS for many years, I’d say this is money well spent.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:56 pmEveryone believed that Saddam had a WMD program including Saddam and Bill Clinton. This was hardly an invention of Bush as we know from statements made by Clinton in 1998, so that statement of Gregor is nonsense. Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
A WMD program, and actual working WMDs are hardly the same thing – st*pid Jake*ss. Tell me genius, is that the same WMD program that Clinton spoke about in 1998, just before he bombed the h*ll out of the facilities?
You’re completely, and utterly mentally r*t*rded.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:57 pmOf course if Gore were President Iraq would be the least of our problems. Osama’s office in the Empire State building for example.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
If Gore had been president, he wouldn’t have hired people that would have been intelligent enough to know the “Bin Laden intends to strike”, means DO SOMETHING! You r*t*rded hate filled jake*ss.
April 25th, 2007 at 1:59 pmThe only thing to add in Moyers case is he gets the taxpayers who disagree with him to pay for it.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:42 pm
Republicans have cut funding to PBS many times already. Have you never watched PBS or seen a fund raising drive they have. Money for the new programs is largely raised from private donors. I’ve been donating for many years. Have you. Then maybe you should go to a PBS site and see how little tax money is part of their operating expenses before you continue to ape what Hannity and O’Reilly say.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:00 pmEven if Saddam had WMD, which many knowledgeable people at the time were questioning, the inspectors were there (finding nothing) and Saddam was totally contained.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:04 pmUsing the blanket statement “everyone believed” is disingenuous because not everyone did believe. It was the lies and distortions and exaggerations of Bush&Co that persuaded many of the “believers” that he had WMDs.
Invading Iraq has not benefitted America and in fact has inflamed violence around the world.
I am looking forward to seeing this tonite.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:06 pmNOW was my favorite when he was still there.
How sweet would it be to be able to control fox, cnn and the rest long enough to make them switch to this broadcast tonite ?
I’ll be very interested to see this show, but it also reminds me, this is how and why I found the blogosphere in the first place–this disconnect from what I was reading in the European press during the run up to the war and what I found at CNN and other US networks. Still, a few small on-line American magazines did provide more reasonable commentary, criticism, analysis, and background history on Iraq, but they also included links to these things called “weblogs”, and since then I’ve been hooked.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:11 pm#57 “Everyone” — at Fox — the rest of us were thinking about how to stop Al Queda. Thinking about finding Bin Ladin and making him pay for his crimes. Thinking about how he was and still is hiding in Pakistan which really does have WMDs. What was the point of invading Iraq? Was it ignorance or malice? Either one, both are seriously bad for the US and the world in fighting terrorists. What have we gained? Nothing. Just tens of thousands of dead men, women and children and the greatest recruitment program for Al Quaeda Bin Ladin could ever have imagined. All because of a seriously flawed president and his maniacle “team”. And Laura Bush says “no one hurts more than she and GW.” Hurting from taking the world down a road into hell. Yeah, she should be hurting.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:12 pmpatsick, your on to this like fies on shit. The truth hurts, huh?
April 25th, 2007 at 2:12 pmEveryone believed that Saddam had a WMD program including Saddam and Bill Clinton. This was hardly an invention of Bush as we know from statements made by Clinton in 1998, so that statement of Gregor is nonsense.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
I believe that assesment was before the first gulf war.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:18 pmYou’re not very good pat.
So they are using taxpayer money so what. I don’t want my taxpayers money to pay for this Illegal Unjust war in Iraq. Where is the money they LOST in Iraq at the beginning of this war. We need to bring our Troops Home NOW.
April 25th, 2007 at 2:28 pmThe media walked in lockstep with the Bush administration after 9-11 and yet the right-wing still promotes the lie that the media is liberal. Hogwash.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:07 pmProf. Colby…
I would recommend caution when engaging with the LIMITED intelligence that has been shown by Patrick.
For starters, HE/SHE is clearly a COWARD. I happen to KNOW this, because I have issued an OPEN challenge to ANY REPUBLICAN HACK/TROLL to meet me at Ft. Sill for ONE WEEKEND of training to provide a glimpse of what our soldiers go through. And, even though, they have the luxury to return home…NOT ONE answered the call.
To understand the mentality, you first must understand that THEY (REPUBLICANS) are mired in the abyss of incompetence and irrelevance. They can ONLY use PAST RHETORIC and INACCURATE facts to support their claims of moral judgment and when that does not work, they use fear, intimidation, and distractions to attempt to validate their existence.
INTELLIGENCE is optional within this party, because “if†there was some intelligence, then there would be NO debate about the crimes and atrocities committed by this administration.
Simply put: The country was better off and more secure when a man was getting a blow-j*b on the Oval Office, then when an idiot with no plan starts a war to get him off…
April 25th, 2007 at 3:23 pmEither:
A: p1 is a paid shill, possibly by your tax dollars.
or
B: (s)he has a major personality disorder, OCD, NPD, BPD.
Likely both.
Either is a waste of one’s time, both feed on shocked reactions.
Ignore ‘em or take ‘em huntin’ with Cheney.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:29 pmPatrick1 belongs in Iraq. And anyone who thinks like him. Send these uneducated people to war.
April 25th, 2007 at 3:31 pmNicely put, Mr. Moyers:
“If the watchdog doesn’t bark, how do you know there’s a burglar in the basement. And the
press is supposed to be our watchdog.
And, to put it another way:
If you think that the fire department in your neighborhood is in collusion with the
arsonist, you want to know about it.
The fact of the matter is in the buildup to the war the watchdog didn’t bark and the fire
department – in this case, the press – was in cahoots with the arsonist.”
- Bill Moyers on the Tavis Smiley Show 7/23/07
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btw – After seeing the WaPo review, I really looked forward to what the NYT review would include.
Guess what? – THERE WASN’T ONE!
After searching their entire paper, this is what I found: a 36 word mini-blurb in their “What’s on Tonight” tv show encapsulation.
That’s ALL…
- And it’s listed after a 110 word description of “AMERICAN IDOL” as well as blurbs about “ACCORDING TO JIM” and “AMERICA’S NEXT TOP MODEL” (which has a bigger blurb than “BUYING THE WAR”!
That.
April 25th, 2007 at 4:50 pmIs.
PATHETIC!!
Still waiting for that Pravda Broadcasting System documentatry that demolishes the anti-war myths of the pro-surrender Vietnam crowd, such as the oft-repeated claims that Laos and Cambodia would not fall like dominoes, that the North would hold free elections as it promised, and that millions would not die in the aftermath since Communists were just idealistic agrarian reformers. I guess some truths still too inconvenient…
April 25th, 2007 at 5:16 pmProfessor Colby, I respect your attempt to engage the troll. You were reasoned and respectful. And, you’ve provided us with a useful lesson on why it is a waste of time to pay any attention at all to little Patrick.
April 25th, 2007 at 5:27 pmI think WH Male Prostitute Jeff Gannon/Guckert got to ask a question at the March 2003 ‘press conference’. Or was that Patrick1?
April 25th, 2007 at 5:42 pmMake THEM pay for this sh*t…
…FREEZE ALL of their personal and corporate assets…
April 25th, 2007 at 9:22 pmLaughable lies from the propagandist Moyers. What is sad is this is our tax dollars at work to spew this rubbish.
Comment by Patrick1 — April 25, 2007 @ 12:13 pm
I just finished watching the Moyers program, and for Patrick1 to make a statement like this is so laughable! Any sane person, or one of any sanity or intelligence at all, would see all the blatant lies that Moyers uncovered. Did Patrick1 miss all the direct quotes of lies that were exposed?
I think comments like his AGAIN paint a perfect picture of what kind of (lack of) intellect these sheeple possess.
Wake up, Patrick1.
April 26th, 2007 at 1:22 amDon’t give them the benefit of the doubt. They knew it was all bogus. But they just went with the bigger bully. It was all just ordinary school yard policy: Bush was stronger and had big brothers. The liberals were pathetic losers without any might. So, whose side are you gonna be on?
Most of the beltway press didn’t believe that Saddam had anything to do with 9/11. But they thought, Bush would overturn the regime and successfully install some sort of government. And they didn’t wanna be (or have been) with the doubters come 2004 and Bush’s inevitable reelection. I think it’s as simple as that.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:52 amIt is really joyful to watch the video, and I am looking forward to read the book.
Sadly, this issue was covered by another book for more than 3 years ago, but it did not receive much attention and the writer could not find a publisher since they were all afraid of publishing a book that documents the historical failure of the US media since 9/11 and the road to war.
The book “No Questions Asked: New Coverage Since 9/11″ by Lisa Finnegan (foreword by Normal Solomon)
http://www.noquestionsasked.org
I really wish that people had looked into the subject, the same way Lisa did.
Here are a few comments about the book:
American Journalism Review of the book
Danny Schechter News Dissector Editor, Mediachannel.org
Robert Dreyfuss, Author of the “Devil’s Game: How the United States Helped Unleash Fundamentalist Islam”
Cheers,
April 26th, 2007 at 7:58 am/Farhad
“Buying the War” can be seen in its entirety here.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:52 amHey Patrick1,
April 26th, 2007 at 12:21 pmThere’s an IED on the road. Go check it out if you love this war so much, will ya?