War Hawk Kristol Confronted By Military Wife: ‘You All Don’t Understand…We Are People Too’
War Hawk Kristol Confronted By Military Wife: ‘You All Don’t Understand…We Are People Too’
During a C-SPAN appearance this morning, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol was confronted by a military wife living in Ft. Hood, TX, who called in to criticize him for “pushing the war.”
The woman explained the incredible stress of having her husband deployed in Iraq:
I’m sure when your head hits the pillow you have a luxury of dreaming about anything that your mind will allow you to dream about… I sleep with the phone under the pillow. My kids — if someone rings the doorbell, instead of normal kids they freeze. And they’re in elementary school. You all don’t understand. We are military people but we are people, too. And the stress that we are under is tremendous.
While she spoke, Kristol appeared uncomfortable, looking downward and scratching markings into a piece of paper.
The caller also told Kristol that he was a “liar” for claiming that it’s “mostly the insurgents attacking us,” versus members of the Iraqi population. “They don’t want us there,” she said. “I understand you truly believe what you’re saying but it’s not working. We can’t want it for them more than they want it for themselves.” Watch it:
Kristol offered little in response, using the caller’s criticism of the stress she’s under to advocate for a larger Army. He concluded, “The strains on family life are obviously very real…and I hope we do more to deal with that.”
Transcript:
HOST: You are on the air.
CALLER: Yes, thank you. I do listen to the discussion. I’m a military wife. My husband on the third tour to Iraq. I just want to if I could look Mr. Kristol and people like him from the American Enterprise Institute and the people pushing the war, I’m sure when your head hits the pillow, you know, you have a luxury of dreaming about, you know, anything that your mind will allow you to dream about. I’m waiting — i sleep with the phone under the pillow.
My kids — if someone rings the doorbell, instead of normal kids they freeze. And they’re in elementary school. You all don’t understand. We are military people but we are people, too. And the stress that we are under is tremendous. So I make a proposal before I have to leave the air. If this war is as important as you on the right and the hawks say it is, and if it is truly essential to our vital interest to do this, then institute the draft so we can have a break.
We are at the breaking point. I just had to counsel a friend last night who has had a solid marriage for 14 years because their marriage is falling apart because they’re military and haven’t lived under the same roof together in five years. We’re people. We can’t keep up the stress level. Our children can’t keep up the stress level.
The spouses left behind can’t keep up the stress level and all you all keep saying, you just called my husband and all the troops a liar saying it is mostly the insurgents attacking us. Because when I do get the luxury of speaking to my husband, what I’m hearing is Iraqis let us through the gates, the security forces let us through and 30 minutes after we pass through, they’re laying down IEDs to blow us up if we come back through. They don’t want us there. I understand you truly believe what you’re saying but it’s not working.
We can’t want it for them more than they want it for themselves. Please bring my husband home, the brave troops. We are tired. We’re really tired.
KRISTOL: Well, look. the army some of us that argue — first of all, I respect the service of those who’ve been over there. I just had dinner last night with close friends whose son just came back from Iraq and it is tough duty and now we’re on second and third tours. some of us argued for a long time before 9/11 and very much after 9/11 that the army and marines were too small for the world we are living in. the foreign policy obligations we are likely to have to impose for the all-volunteer military and finally we are increasing the size of the army and the marines and paying a price for that in terms of longer tours and people going back a second and third times and the strains on family life are obviously very real and obviously it’s a tough job over there. so i hope we do more to deal with that.
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the united states is a democracy, not a military dictatorship. period.
the war cheerleaders, therefore, and the administration’s apologists, are all free to move to one, and enjoy.
genuine patriotism will remain the exclusive province of those who abide by the Constitution, and obey the rule of law and will of the people.
advocates of military dictatorship rather than the rule of Democracy are genuine traitors, and are actually guilty of real treason, and are fortunate our laws are liberal enough that they are not rounded up and detained, as anyone who interferes with the Constitutional operation of our Democracy should be.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:45 pmPfffttt….way to show that compassionate conservatism there Billy Boy.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:48 pmwould someone please punch that idiot? He couldn’t possibly understand. He doesn’t want to understand.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pmWarmongering chickenhawk. Would wet his pants in an uncomfortable situation, much less life or death. Arrogantly dismissing a woman who is suffering because of his short-sighted policies and stupid recommendations to the boy-king.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pmBring our soldiers home.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:51 pmDemocratic debate beginning on msnbc now.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:52 pmWhat an a$$hat. Didn’t even look up at the beginning of the phone call. Until he realized his reaction would probably be scrutinized did he take the time to act like he was even listening. The caller hit the nail on the head. “I’m sure when your head hits the pillow, you know, you have a luxury of dreaming about, you know, anything that your mind will allow you to dream about. ”
And he replys “I just had dinner last night with close friends whose son just came back from Iraq”
Yeah, I bet when he has dinner with friends he doesn’t spend less than $100 per person. These people really just don’t have any concept of what a hard time really is. Period. None at all. And the illusion is that they care. They don’t. He doesn’t.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pmI hate that little weasel.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:56 pmI watched that live today and hes STILL TO THIS DAY saying that al queda had ties in Iraq.
and some stupid rekneck called in to agree with him. How in the world is this man able to walk the streets or even live with himself.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pmThank’s for the head’s up Marie…Blessings
April 26th, 2007 at 6:59 pmKristol dreams…he dreams of a puppet America that does Israel’s bidding…… wait.. that’s an old dream that’s come true
April 26th, 2007 at 7:01 pm“But my pet project for this century requires dead soldiers!”
April 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pmI cannot stand William Kristol. This piece of s**t has never served. His daddy didn’t serve. And his kids at least 2 of whom are eligible won’t serve. This piece of s**t will even write columns about lowering taxes because he has no qualms about not paying for his crappy war. This pos couldn’t care less if there was a Kristol War Vet crawling across the street on his knees with torn clothes on because that would “their own fault.” I would be willing to bet that William Kristol only donates money to conservative causes. I am willing to bet he hasn’t donated a dime to the Fallen Heroes fund because he couldn’t care less that all those Fallen Heroes died for his crappy war. William Fuzzy KKkrystal ball has no balls and can go eat s**t.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:08 pmThat woman was very brave.
Hopefully more military family members will speak up.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:10 pmYup, the people on this thread get it. And the American people get it…more and more. Kristol is a modern American traitor.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:12 pmumm not only did his father not serve but he was a billionaire advocating communism!
April 26th, 2007 at 7:13 pmWithdrawl dates are moot. “The troops will be coming home soon. There simply are too few to sustain the surge for very much longer. ” Robert H. Scales, Maj.Gen. (Ret.) See Sic Semper Tyrannis
April 26th, 2007 at 7:16 pmYet more evidence that withdrawl dates are moot. “The troops will be coming home soon. There simply are too few to sustain the surge for very much longer. ” — Robert H. Scales, Maj.Gen (ret.)
April 26th, 2007 at 7:21 pmWhat a brave caller. More people need to hear what military families are going through right now with all the multiple tours, extended tours, etc.
These neo-con scumbags are ruining people’s lives, and they do not even care. They chat in luxury offices about a “surge” over cigars and caviar, but the reality is, our military is too strained for a large scale increase in forces in Iraq. Neo-cons like Kristol don’t understand that fact. They only care about politics.
The truth is, Bush and Republicans would not support a draft because it would be bad politically. He knows the entire country would walk the streets demanding the Iraq War be ended immediately. So more soldiers will get the word their tour has been extended. More children will hear Dad won’t be coming home. More wives and husbands will have to make do on their own for even longer. More troops will just mentally break down from all the stress and pressure of their 2nd or 3rd tours.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:22 pmChickenhawk Kristol needs to be parachuted into a rough neighborhood in Baghdad…with no backup.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:23 pmThis from a David Corn column at bushlies.com
I asked about a recent McClatchy Newspaper story by Nancy Youssef that reported that the training of Iraqi troops is no longer a priority for US forces in Iraq.
The April 19 piece began:
“Military planners have abandoned the idea that standing up Iraqi troops will enable American soldiers to start coming home soon and now believe that U.S. troops will have to defeat the insurgents and secure control of troubled provinces.”
On January 10, when Bush announced his so-called surge in Iraq, he told the American people:
“In keeping with the recommendations of the Iraq Study Group, we will increase the embedding of American advisers in Iraqi Army units, and partner a coalition brigade with every Iraqi Army division. We will help the Iraqis build a larger and better-equipped army, and we will accelerate the training of Iraqi forces, which remains the essential U.S. security mission in Iraq.”
So Bush promised Americans an accelerated training program, and that has not happened.
This has not been officially acknowledged! The total hypocracy of the “surge” is exposed! Go read the whole thing.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWhy is War Hawk - Israeli PNAC traitor Kristol not just allowed on publicly owned airwaves but appearing at least once a week to hype for more and more death, maiming and torture?
Like Israeli PNAC traitor Douglas Feith, Kristol should be tried for the war crimes and crimes against humanity that he has been promoting for the past 5 years and more.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:27 pmbreaking news on CNN - pro-life terrorists attempt bombing at Austin, TX women’s health clinic.
now when does ralph reed get black-bagged and flown to gitmo??
taliban up!
April 26th, 2007 at 7:28 pmKristol is the bastard who started to say something along the lines of:
‘yes, I’m ready to sacrifice a few more American lives….’
on Fox news about a year ago and caught himself and changed his sentence. I saw it live and the transcript edited it out. I think it was Wallace who lit off on him as he said it.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:30 pmI believe that Kristol and republicans like him are willing to face the fact that war is very difficult and that it has and does cause a strain on America’s military and military families. Are progressives conversely willing to face the fact that there are negative consequences for inaction? It would be like complaining to the physician that explained to you that you to have to have your cancerous leg removed before the cancer spreads and kills you, all the while, your compassionate progressive aunt advises you to just come home from the hospital because the physician is only trying to profit from the operation and if you just leave your leg alone, everything will be okay. I wish I lived in the simple world that progressives call home. The problem is, when you retreat to that place, the decisions are made for you by someone else. Someone, believe it or not, with less compassion for you than George Bush and his ‘evil’ republican allies.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:32 pmWilliam Kristol has as much empathy with this nation as Sadham had with human rights in Iraq. William Kristol would easily make Stalin a candidate for sainthood.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:32 pmtom,
There’s also a story about Mike Huckabee’s kid being arrested on a gun charge……….
poor repub’s… really…. I feel so badly…
April 26th, 2007 at 7:33 pmAt least now we know that Kristol has a soul, even if it’s shriveled and black as coal
FYI: This rhymed unintentionally, I’m not trying to be poetic
April 26th, 2007 at 7:33 pmWell, one good thing: the families are coming to the realization that republicans only use the troops for props and war fodder. The next election will be a blow-out, no matter how many swift boats they float.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:34 pmI was never for the war from the beginning. I never believed invading a sovereign nation was legal.
End the war NOW! Bring our troups HOME NOW!
April 26th, 2007 at 7:35 pmHow do you expect a coward to respond? He could give a flying rats ass about the families, the troopers, the public sentiment. It’s about being feted as an insider, as being in the know, and the whole time being a fumbling, ignorant pissant. Another one who couldn’t serve, wouldn’t serve, and yet, all of the sudden, through the magic of his daddy, he’s knows what is best for the rest of us.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:40 pmI am so sick of pro-war pundits telling us what the troops think, how the troops feel. To these chickenhawks, our military are toy soldiers. The hawks don’t give a rat’s a$$ about the people who are willing to put their lives on the lines so that the pundits can get fat talking up military aggression on the nightly news.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:42 pmsurge this Kristol - you rotten piece of s#it
April 26th, 2007 at 7:43 pmThat woman’s call ought to be broadcast everywhere - and the great “decider” ought to be tied down and made to listen to it about 1000 times. I swear - I’ve never hated people before, but this bunch has ripped my soul from my body.
Woops, Kristal went on a show other than FOX…
April 26th, 2007 at 7:44 pmI hate to post the same message from one thread to another, but this seems to fit this thread as well.
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It’s Called “Stick a Yellow Ribbon on Your SUV”, sung to the Tony Orlando and Dawn tune.
It fits here as well.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:46 pmbreaking news on CNN - pro-life terrorists attempt bombing at Austin, TX women’s health clinic.
Comment by tom baker
I know exactly where it is,I live in Austin
April 26th, 2007 at 7:48 pmIt is not just an abortion clinic. It is a womens clinic, where they get checkups, prenatal care, etc. The asswipe that left that bomb could have killed alot of people. There are security cameras watching that parking lot so I expect they will find who did it.
“I believe that Kristol and republicans like him are willing to face the fact that war is very difficult and that it has and does cause a strain on America’s military and military families.”
Paul, if you believe this, you also believe that these chickenhawks, who have never served a day in the military, know what’s best for the rest of us, the unwashed masses.
I’m sorry, but your premise is ridiculous on its face. To argue that the same people who claimed “you go to war with the army you have, not the army you wish you had,” are somehow sympathetic to the toll it takes on those bearing the greatest sacrifice is insulting.
That they are “willing to face the facts” … bullshit, that’s the problem. They don’t have to face a goddamned thing, other than beltway traffic jams.
To think, that for even more one moment, that warmonger suffers for his wrongheadedness, his falsification of fact, his utter and gutless cheerleading is to spit in the face of the dead and wounded he helped create.
Save your sympathy for those who deserve it, not the caterwauling cowards who refuse to admit their errors and continue to call for more dead, more wounded, more emotionally and physically scarred.
That is the face of a coward, plain and simple. And to any way argue that he’s worthy of our understanding makes you a coward also.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:49 pmThat chickens..t chickenhawk should be drop kicked into the middle of an 82nd airborne training session in the least, and in the most, be sent to SYRIA for a bit of Syriasness…. Being jewish he should know of the trials the Nazis faced, and he and his like should face the same.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:52 pmWar salesman Kristol will continue to push for his PNAC(Plan for New American Century), even if the phone rings all day by callers.
You are dealing with a stubborn Neocon who knows he is not going to lose any of his kids or friends in Afghanstan,Iraq or any war he is now selling like war with Iran and Syria.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:55 pmI think that these warmongers are getting challenged, called-out and confronted more and more and more…..Kristol and the rest of these warmongering douchebags need to be shamed, ridiculed, and shunned.
-GSD
April 26th, 2007 at 7:56 pmThe first time I ever saw this scumbag, maybe 10-15 years ago, I had visions of him in a Nazi SS uniform, goose-stepping for der Fuhrer. It gave me chills. Even the name Kristol is creepy somehow.
Every time he flaps his liver lips, my intuition is proven accurate.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:58 pmWe need some changes in our Constitutional laws related to war. How about a policy similar to the Congressional law proposals - if a Congressperson proposes a new anything, he/she must have an identified source of funding. Same for any war hawks - if one proposes war, he/she must have an identified source of fighters. Oh, we can work on the numbers and penalties for failure, but the basic concept could keep us our of wars. Then, war needs to be voted on and approved by the entire electorate. Yeah, some changes are needed.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmComment by paul
You are full of sh*t
Kristol is the chairman of PNAC and has his hands as dirty in the neocon push for war to take over influence of the middle east.
Bushco is following the PNAC plan that has been on the web since 1997. Their meglomanic plan for a Pan-Americana Empire ( its right on their web site a$$hole, for anyone willing to read it)
They do not give a fscking damn about the troops, wounded or veterans.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmAnd if you support them, neither do you
Larger army = larger abuses of it.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:00 pmKristol deserves his spot in Hell.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:01 pmYOU HAVE BLOOD ON YOUR HANDS KRISTOL
Watch Your Six.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:01 pmIf there is ONE WISH I could have granted to me, it would be that I would have the power to DROP EACH AND EVERY SUPPORTER of this war in IRAQ!!!
THEN we would see how long they would fight and how much they believe in this war!!!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:07 pmit would be like complaining to the physician that explained to you that you to have to have your cancerous leg removed before the cancer spreads and kills you,
April 26th, 2007 at 8:08 pmPaul…would you feel the same way if you found out that the physician had removed the WRONG LEG in his last group of patients??.
No one really knows why some people get cancer, but we all know why we’re in Iraq. Lies and half truths by folks like Bill crystal.
Supporting the war != supporting the troops.
In fact, the two are becoming mutually exclusive.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:09 pmDo you have kids, Bill?
If so, drive them to a recruiter or STFU!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pmBilly Boy,
Show me your Honorable Discharge form the military. (If you have misplaced it, the VA can get you a copy.)
Otherwise, shut your cowardly mouth.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:11 pmWhat that woman said about the draft is 100% true.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhy Chuck Rangel never gets any traction when he say’s it is beyond me.
When I remind my friends with young kids ( who voted for Bush ) that this is an all consuming fetish for the neocon’s, and that they will NEVER stop waging wars, they change their tune pretty quickly.
They cannot have it both ways…. a military to defend the country is needed,
just don’t ask for “my” kids, won’t cut it anymore when more and more people like this woman demand the same sacrifices from all americans.
Question asked during the Democratic Debate tonight. Did any of the other candidates support Dennis Kuchinich’s move for impeachment of Cheney. Not one single other person up there indicated “yes.” But the follow-up question…”why not?”was never asked.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:14 pmOT- Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel are kicking ass on the Democratic Debate on MSNBC.
Highlights so far:
Kucinich holding up a pocket copy of the Constitution and saying he’s the only one on stage willing to defend it by impeaching Cheney. Go Dennis!
Gravel: The Military Industrial Complex has total control over our government! Go Mike!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pmthanks Larry from C, I’m going to go find this…….
April 26th, 2007 at 8:17 pm#53 Larry
I agree with you….these two men stood strong and looked as men of principles..not the marketed ones…
I am disppointed with Obama and Clinton’s rhetoric…
April 26th, 2007 at 8:19 pmOT- Now Kucinich and Obama are getting into it over Iran.
Kucinich reminded Obama that he said regarding Iran all options are on the table.
Kucinich then said we need to end Global War-ring just as we need to end Global Warming. Kucinich then said that Iraq and Iran are about OIL.
This brief tiff was the best action of the debate so far.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pmProgressive ideas seeing the light of day on MSM…..FASCINATING..and Larry from C is right.. Kucinich and Gravel pulling no punches…the others trying too hard not to say anything wrong
April 26th, 2007 at 8:22 pmYes, Obama looked too relaxed, Hillary sounded too scripted, Edwards seemed tired. Biden was too verbose. Bill Richards was too analytical.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:24 pmKristol is typical of all the spineless, cowardly, warmongering zealots, from Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, on down, who started this immoral war based on nothing but lies, and yet who risk nothing!! They risk not even a stubbed toe, nor do their elitist, jet-setting, partying children. If any of them had anything to lose, much less life and limb, this war would not have happened. It is an outrage beyond comprehension. None of these chicken hawks would hold the views they hold, especially after four long years of failure, if they, or any of their loved ones, were in harms way for even one moment!!!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:25 pmMakes me want to puke. F**king neocons should all be put on trial for crimes against humanity and locked up for the rest of their unnatural lives.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:25 pmGovernor Bill Richardson seemed to know what he is talking about…some looked like they were absent, but Dennis Kucinch and Mike Gravel won the show.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:26 pmKristol has always been a clueless bottom feeder, but this is bizarre, even by his standards.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:26 pmI’d of enjoyed a “debate” where the candidates face each other and engage. This debate was stiff and dull until Gravel shook things up…paraphrasing “I’m the senior statesman here and I feel like a potted plant”…after they hadn’t asked him a question in quite awhile.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:27 pmI was calling like crazy trying to get through to talk to this creep.
He mentioned the talking point of giving the “surge” a chance. That it’s working.
I wanted to hit him with what part of the surge was he talking about? Was the fact that April was shaping up to be the highest month for deaths since the war began, was that his idea of the surge working? More deaths?
Kristol has always been slimy. He has that sleazy look. Definitely a closet gay. (Not that there’s anything wrong…) He makes my shin crawl. There is just something about the man that makes one feel like your chin deep in a barrel full of eels. Why anyone has this creep on after he has been so totally discredited is beyond me. Why listen to someone that hasn’t been right about one single thing?
April 26th, 2007 at 8:29 pmPaul, you are defending a war of choice (comment #24). A war based on false premises. Continue to defend that if you wish. You have a right to do so, as per our First Amendment. I have the right to completely and with all my heart, disagree with you.
Gus Smith…we don’t need a change in the Constitution regarding war powers…we need a return to it. That is, that ONLY Congress can DECLARE war. Not pass resolutions or bills (such as the War Powers Act) to allow any President to go to war upon their own decision. Read the Constitution. And if you follow history at all, since WWII, you will see that Congress has NEVER declared war since then, but let ONE man make that decision.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:30 pmChris Matthews comments: Hillary did a good job because she kept her voice controlled and moderated. That’s the standard for a good performance?
April 26th, 2007 at 8:31 pmThis debate should include questions about PNAC,Neocons,foreign countries influencing our foreign policies…..etc.
The debate was dull…and it should be left to the people to ask the questions ..and not left only to B.Williams to ask the questions….it looked like a dishonet show.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:32 pm#60 Tarzan…Richardson would make a great AAA+ Secretary of State for any Democratic President. Would make Condo Rice look like an amateur.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:33 pmRichardson could be the person to help heal the wounds America under Bush/Chainee has inflicted around the world.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:40 pmWas that a note of disdain I heard in his voice? Damned elitists. He simply brushed her off like a pesky fly on his lapel. No emotions to see here.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:40 pmwe are people, too.
And this is the problem with the likes of Kristol and his buddies at the PNAC: For them, people in the military and their families are a mean to an end; Kristol may feel some empathy for them, but ultimately, he cherishes his vision for the Middle East even more.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:40 pm#66 tarazan…they took e-mail questions but they too were tame.
Bryan Williams sit your ass down I have a real question to ask:
April 26th, 2007 at 8:41 pmCorporations have taken over our Government. I don’t know where our government begins and the corporations end. The oil corporations had influence in US attacking Iraq. The pharmaceutical companies wrote the medicare drug bill. The financial institutions wrote the bankruptcy bill. The media lobbied millions to receive deregulatory legislation. Do you Hillary Clinton pledge not to take money from, or be influenced by Corporations in your decision making? Will you make decisions based on the best interests of the citizens or the interests of corporations?
That’s Hillary, controlled, moderate, no waves, no stance, no nothing.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:42 pm#71 I agree
April 26th, 2007 at 8:43 pm#67…Larry
I think Richadrson knows what he is talking about, when it comes to foreign policy…he was the US ambassador to the UN, Congressman,Secretary of Energy..and now governor….
He is the ideal diplomat….I hope he ends up with a post like US Secretary of State…it will be a gain for foreign policy and a plus for America.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:44 pmI don’t get MSNBC, and I didn’t watch the Debate….so at the risk of sticking my head up to get lopped off…I must say….These debates are a potential MINEFIELD. I don’t blame the frontrunners from being carefull. Look what happened to Howard Dean in the last election..fair or not. I like kucinich…he has a role to play…but face it..he’s a real long shot. I would hate to see a Democrat who could win get tripped up by an inoppertune comment. Bush’s Iraq policy is heading for a cliff, the Democrats can’t do much about it, and the way out will be obvious to all soon. I regret the deaths until then.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:45 pmThe war supporters really don’t want to be faced with these realities.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:48 pmIt’s Kristol’s picture that should be pasted next to the dictionary definition of chickenhawk. People that sit in their diamond encrusted ivory towers and formulate imperial foreign policy plans designed to “project American military dominance” need a slap in their cowardly faces. No Kristol, you babbling fool, the ends do not justify the means when somebody else’s blood and tears are being spilled.
Disgusting!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:54 pmAmerican interests do not concern Bill Kristol one tiny bit, to make a long story short, everything he says or does is to con Americans into carrying out the right wing Israeli agenda. He only cares about tricking America into carrying out Israeli foreign policy. All major politicians both parties have been totally bought out and committed our country to be Israels lil bitch. BOMB IRAN!
April 26th, 2007 at 8:58 pmI wonder if that dinner was also attended by his gay friend and his black friend?
Why is this guy still on TV? He has been proven wrong at every turn and yet we still have to hear what he has to say.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:58 pmOn Fox’s SUnday morning show (Chris Wallace) Kristol insisted that it was primarilly Al Qeada that was active against us in Iraq. This is a lie even greater than the one the caller above called him on. This slimy jackass needs to be kept off the airwaves, and the advertisers on networks that persist in giving his lies a forum should be boycotted.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:04 pmDid Kristol ever serve his country or did he avoid service?
Not only does this man know nothing of the lives of those who serve, he and his war-mongering counterparts dont have the capacity to understand the damage they have done by sending those who chose to defend America to a war that never should have been started.
Mr Hussein was in a contained box. Mr bin Laden is still out there. People like Kristol and the George an Laura Bush say they feel the pain but they didnt offer their military age children to fight in this supposed noble venture. On top of that they attack those who have served or those whose children serve.
Bill Kristol is a disgusting coward.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:11 pmKristol always looks like he could use more bran in his diet. In fact, he always looks like he’s dumping on the toilet when he tries to listen. Maybe that’s because he has sh*t for brains, and that’s the only way he can *think*!
April 26th, 2007 at 9:14 pm#
The war supporters really don’t want to be faced with these realities.
Comment by ForTruth — April 26, 2007 @ 8:48 pm
Democrats have passed a bill, in both the House and the Senate, that provides “emergency” funding for the surge. With or without deadlines or timelines, it’s still the same. Bush will veto, and they will be providing funds, one way or another, to continue this war. Even if he didn’t veto it, they would still be providing those funds for the escalation. I get rather sick of people saying they are “trying to end” the war. Here’s a simple test…”try” to pick up a shoe. You either do it, or you don’t. The only reason someone would fail in that task would be the result of a neurological disorder.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:17 pmPathetic
April 26th, 2007 at 9:21 pmBeing a political junkie, I saw this interview live today, and I wa absolutely sickened by Kristol’s smarmy self-righteousness. He’s the poster boy for compassionate conservatism all right! Yes sirree Bob, that Bill Kristol is always thinking what’s best for the country, how to make democracy work best, and how to help the little guy realize his American Dream. Punk.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:23 pmHe’s the archetypal Chickenhawk. He reminds me of Sherman’s line about the warmongers who never saw battle. Or that British battle planner who worked out all the plans in a cozy office in WWI and, after the battle was a disaster, he went to see what went wrong. It had never occured to him that the wooden pieces he pushed across a tabletop map were men of flesh and blood who had to slog across a hill in mud two feet deep. He fell to his knees and wept at this bloody stupidity.
Sadly, I don’t think Kristol would weep. He’s just –like Bush– tell the mudcaked troops to try harder.
Anyone see “Blackadder Goes Forth”? It’s Rowan Atkinson’s grim comedy about trench warfare. Wickedly funny and the final episode made me weep. But the brass were portrayed as stupid and as insensitive as what we see in the White House today. Of course, that was due to a class system in Britain in 1914, what’s America’s excuse? I’m afraid the Republicans have desperately tried to create a class system of Haves and Havemores. That’s what this is really about. Laura Bush can say she’s suffered more than women who’ve lost husbands, fathers, and sons. But she’s being more Marie Antoinette –(not Kirsten Dunst’s MA) and I say “Off were her head!”
April 26th, 2007 at 9:24 pm“We Are People Too”
Brave woman, but her mistake was in using the word “too”.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pmOh, but he *does* understand. He understands that there’s oil in them thar sands, that the president always knows what’s better for us than we do, and that it’s unmanly to admit one was wrong and try to repair the damage.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pmThe lady pegged Bill as a liar and he is. Does anyone besides me remember how the Don- Rumsfeld spent a good part of his career at the hexagram ( ha) taking the army apart???? Yes he was transforming the force into a lythe light force that would be able to be inserted anywhere in the world and come back out in a day or two with the mission accomplished… remember??? Ya’ll do remember right? It’s Billo that has the ” I cannot recall Gonzales” moment today……. wow.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:34 pmLiars- big lies covering little lies covering major lies covering who knows what to begin with…… probably money is my guess.
I hope people understand the dangerous situation the world is in…….. finally.
Kristol is no hawk. Hawks are fierce, deft, kill only when they must and do the killing themselves.
Kristol can claim none of these noble traits.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:35 pmThis pathetic jerk and warmonger said before the war that our army was too small; nevertheless, he and his accomplices pushed for the war before it could be built to a size needed to secure Iraq. That is, with the 500,000 or so recommended by General Shinseki, one of the few generals in the Pentagon who knew the score and the only one with courage to speak truth to power.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:36 pmKristol, like the rest of the other war criminals, is in total denial to what really is happening in Iraq. AL Qaeda, if they are really there, came into Iraq ONLY after Bush, Cheney, and other criminals attacked Iraq.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:40 pmDuring Saddams time, AL Qaeda did not exist over there. Bush opened the borders wide for these hateful people to enter the fray. I wish someone asked this idiot if getting Saddam was worth those thousands of lives lost, and billions of our dollors spent, for their grand scheme to dominate Iraq, and get one tin pot tyrant. Kristol still propagates the WH lies about why we went over there, and why this bloody war should go on. He is as despicable as the other neocons, who were hell bent on dragging this nation into war. Perhaps it is his love of Israel that makes him go on.
How much ass does one have to lick to have their face pucker up like kristols?
April 26th, 2007 at 9:42 pmBetter idea for Kristol and his ilk –
I agree with the caller that they need to bring home the current troops so they and their families can get a damned break — as no doubt, this illegal, never-ending, unwinnable war is far more than they thought they’d ever have to do when they enlisted — but not moreover than that: no, I don’t think a ‘draft’ is necessary, it will only cause greater unrest in this country, BUT I do believe that ALL the architects of this war, the neocons, and every member of Congress who approved this war should be required to send at least one member of their own family in replace of the current military troops that are currently there.
Seems reasonable and fair enough. Since they called for this mess — they can now show their true tenacity and strength: send their OWN family to die for their dirty deeds.
What a disgrace Kristol and Co are. God Bless the caller and all military families; I can’t imagine how much they must be suffering.
April 26th, 2007 at 9:56 pmBill Kristol could give a crap about the women who called in. Straussians (NeoCons) view people like her as one of the “vulgar many,†chumps, dupes, and ciphers to be manipulated, poked, and prodded in the direction of subordination and tyranny.â€
Tyranny through Straussian political philosophy is what Neo-Conservatives truly believe. Straussians believe that “old” conservatism relied on tradition, and was far too cautious, too moderate in its approach. Leo Strauss, born the new conservatism at the University of Chicago. New conservatism is not slow or cautious, but active, aggressive, and reactionary in the literal sense of the term. Leo Strauss believed in Plato’s (The Republic) “noble lie”, and the “philosopher-king†model of government; the “philosopher kings†exercise of the “rule of the wiseâ€, to the “vulgar” masses. Through a belligerent and perpetual foreign policy, war would be waged for 100 years. Through a “Pearl Harbor” like event, Nationalism will bind the masses to be controlled as subordinates to carry out this belligerent and perpetual foreign policy.
NeoCons hate for Liberalism, according to Strauss, “equals relativism, which necessarily leads to nihilism. Strauss longed to return to a previous, pre-liberal, pre-bourgeois era of blood and guts, of imperial domination, of authoritarian rule, of pure fascism”.
Above is just a taste of what NeoCons truly believe. And if your shaking your head no way? Look at the present state of US foreign policy. But, please don’t take my word for it. Type in “Leo Strauss vulgar gentlemen wise men” through Google. Do your own research!
April 26th, 2007 at 9:57 pmLT K; Billy boy did NOT serve…the cowardly pussy was too busy hiding behind his draft deferment like his fellow warmonger Cheney, Ashcroft, Rove, Perle, Feith, Abrams, Rush Limpdick, Hastert, Lott, Hannity, O’Reilly, and others. He would have NO idea or sympathy for that military wife or her familiy, or anyone else. Kudos for that woman to bitch-slap that putz.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:08 pmThe face of American Fascism….
April 26th, 2007 at 10:10 pmi noticed that all his answers were “we” not the republicans or the administration, just goes to show what they say about too many chefs in the kitchen. many good dems called in to put the fire to kristols toes and many times he preferred to not comment. these guys arent used to being challenged and its started to show. perhaps kristol and his coherts ought best to peddle their wares to viewers on foxnews.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:18 pmWilliam Kristol has 3 children, >two of whom are of military service age.
None of them have enlisted, or have their butts on the line in Iraq.
Apparently his own children and their mother (who knows him better?) are not buying Bill’s lines.
Why should any of the rest of us?
April 26th, 2007 at 10:20 pmCrystal is a fascist and a demented, detached misanthrope.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:21 pm95. Comment by TerrytheTurtle -
These people are worse then the average fascists. These people are the type that would analyze what Hitler did wrong and then try to improve on it.
But as all evil in the world is destined to fail, good will, and has always prevailed.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:23 pmbelieve that Kristol and republicans like him are willing to face the fact that war is very difficult and that it has and does cause a strain on America’s military and military families. Are progressives conversely willing to face the fact that there are negative consequences for inaction?
Comment by paul — April 26, 2007 @ 7:32 pm
I’m late here-how many have told paul to GO FU$K YOURSELF ?
April 26th, 2007 at 10:25 pmWhy are these people heading our government, selling off Americas infrastructure?
You see, if they sell off our infrastructure, then like the pharmacuetical co’s. that bought bush and he and congress let the pharmacuetical co’s. write their own laws, our constitution and the American people were spit on and once they sell the power co’s. and water, Americans will have no say and the laws can’t touch them or make them be reasonable.
What we have running our government would fit right in with the dreams of Mao.
They want a one world government and to have that, they are draining the American economy, which also serves to make us too weak to challenge them once they have everything in place.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:30 pmAnd this guy knows about war because…?
April 26th, 2007 at 10:31 pmPaul; Go f*ck yourself!!! If you defend these fascist war criminals, you are an accessory to war crimes.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:36 pm100. Comment by Boy Scout -
Sorry, that has already happened:
Executive Order Numbers and Meaning:
10900 - Allows the government to take control over all modes of transportation, highways, and seaports.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:40 pm10995 - Allows the government to seize and control the communication media.
10997 - Allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels, and minerals.
10998 - Allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.
11000 - Allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.
11001 - Allows the government to take over all health, education, and welfare functions.
11002 - Designates the Postmaster General to operate national registration of all persons.
11003 - Allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.
11004 - Allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, and designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.
11005 - Allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways, and public storage facilities.
11051 - Specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.
11310 - Grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.
11049 - Assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen-year period.
11921 - Allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and flow of money in the U.S.A. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the President declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Another firmly planted kick to the neocon nuts and Kristol just puckers up and takes it like man. The blood on his hands helps him channel the spirit of Leo Strauss.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:40 pmI totally agree that we cannot win the war in Iraq.
But this is not because we couldn’t win the war. America certainly has the economic power to win—we beat the Germans and Japanese at the same time.
But when we fought World War II, we realized the incredible level of commitment required. It was probably the hugest national sacrifice ever required by individual Americans in our history, for the greatest reason.
In particular, there were two ways that America committed to winning World War II:
1. National Draft
2. Raise Taxes
If we were able to occupy Iraq with half a million soldiers, with a fully funded effort to provide our soldiers with body armor and everything required to win, of course America is capable of winning with the war. But truly we are not ready to accept that price.
When the caller told Mr. Kristol how much strain the war has been on her military family, she said that people like he supporting such a war mentality also should be support a draft. I agree, because people like Mr. Kristol and policy groups like his American Enterprise Group have been so hawkish without wanting to assuming any of the burden.
Mr. Kristol and his groups strongly reject draft that would require their families to equally share the burden that the caller must bear. And they consider tax increases to be in ideological evil—in fact they favor particular tax cuts that would favor the wealthiest individuals, such as themselves.
Anyone that is not willing to support our troops with both taxes and a draft has no business with sending our them into a war.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:41 pm#101
Juan C
I hear he is really good at that board game “RISK” …
He used to beat Dan Quayle at it all of the time.
I think the board game victories went to his head.
I mean, beating Dan Quayle at “RISK” makes you a brave man - a very brave man …
April 26th, 2007 at 10:42 pmWilliam Kristol is a worthless SOB. Nothing else to say about a chickenshit chickenhawk who has never served but thinks war is grand. F*ck you warmongering weasel and everyone who agrees with your non-sense.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:45 pmre #24 Paul and his “cancerous leg”…. so its ok for the Surgeon/Decider to diagnose as “cancerous” and worthy of amputation/invasion/destruction any body part he chooses, even without the “patient’s” permission…? I am afraid this would be called MALpractice in most places and worthy of loss of medical license and a hefty suit for damages and pain and misery….your support of the evil ones in Washington has caused unmeasurable death and destruction in the middle east…and you justify because…oh, i know, a handful of lunatics blew up a couple of buildings in new york…get over it. What happened on 9/11 does not justify any of the madness of king george and his evil puppetmaster chaney….none….I fear them far more than any threat from external enemies…
April 26th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI feel terrible sorry for this woman. But she is appealing to a heatless, souless ghoul! He is a psychopath. He does’nt give a shit about people like her. The tragedy is that despite being so wrong about everything, this man is seen on TV and treated as if he is some kind of an expert. This know nothing is treated with respect by the media.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:48 pmWhat I want to know is what does it take in this country, what do you have to do in order for some TV executive to say “enough is enough, you’ve been wrong about everything, thousands of people are dead because of you, now get lost and never show your face on my network again”.
Kristol doesn’t even qualify as a human being anymore. He is an ideological psychopath.
April 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pm#105
JoesphP
I like your spirit.
But absent the Shinseki approach (400,000 to 500,000 troops - at the beginning ) there were reports that indicated the war would be very difficult to win because the high likelihood of multiple and (by our standards) somewhat irrational enemies. This plus the fact the the place was armed to the sky with tons of munitions .
Check out the US Army War College report of FEB 2003 if you want. Go to page 7 for the conclusions.
http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pdffiles/PUB182.pdf
April 26th, 2007 at 10:56 pmIt’s a long thread and forgive me if this has been mentioned. I agree with the following post:
“The truth is, Bush and Republicans would not support a draft because it would be bad politically. He knows the entire country would walk the streets demanding the Iraq War be ended immediately. So more soldiers will get the word their tour has been extended. More children will hear Dad won’t be coming home. More wives and husbands will have to make do on their own for even longer. More troops will just mentally break down from all the stress and pressure of their 2nd or 3rd tours.
Comment by brianS — April 26, 2007 @ 7:22 pm
I’d like to add an addendum. When those soldiers eventually do return stateside, and their ability to function militarily, or socialogically, is diminished, (physically or mentally) the VA will smack them with a “Personality Disorder” and deny them any further medical treatment or further VA benefits. Leaving the vet, and his/her family out to dry.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070409/kors
Way to take care of the troops, Bush.
I weep for this family (referring to the Kristol caller) and all other families in the same situation. It just ain’t right to let this continue. How I hope for the mourning when I wake up and hear “Our long national nighmare is over” (referring to the end of the war and removing our current Criminal in Chief).
April 26th, 2007 at 10:58 pmIf we were able to occupy Iraq with half a million soldiers, with a fully funded effort to provide our soldiers with body armor and everything required to win, of course America is capable of winning with the war.
Comment by JosephP — April 26, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
This was once true. I doubt it is true today. We might need twice that many troops now to impose a West Bank/Gaza style security solution, which can hardly be considered victory.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:05 pm#105 says: If we were able to occupy Iraq with half a million soldiers, with a fully funded effort to provide our soldiers with body armor and everything required to win, of course America is capable of winning with the war.
Comment by JosephP — April 26, 2007 @ 10:41 pm
We won the war. And then there was the occupation. The only way you subdue a population is by making their lives better. BushCo isn’t even an improvement over Saddam. That is pathetic.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:13 pmWhat I want to know is what does it take in this country, what do you have to do in order for some TV executive to say “enough is enough, you’ve been wrong about everything, thousands of people are dead because of you, now get lost and never show your face on my network againâ€.
Comment by rk — April 26, 2007 @ 10:48 pm
Call someone a “Nappy—————-”
April 26th, 2007 at 11:17 pmWhat is Kristol doing on that show? He’s a mouthpiece. I thought they put only knowledgeable people on there. Man, the money of the GOP extends out far and wide.
Do you notice that everytime a Republican starts a conversation, they start it with…..”well, look.” What’s with the “look” thing?
I agree with Kristol on expanding the army. And I think we should start with his kids.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:22 pmWe all laghed at Bagdad Bob, Kristol and the like are no different. They just don’t get it. If some of you think we won over there hold that thought and say it again in five years and see how stupid you look. You won’t have the Dems to blame YOU WANTED THIS.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:22 pm#114
JPark is correct.
The report I reference deals with the “reconstruction” phase.
Since most professionals were more concerned about the phase following the initial combat phase, I tend to look at this phase as the actual “war” - especially since encountering these difficulties was clearly not “optional” given the lack of planning for it by the Bush admin.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:33 pmI was mortified…
…C-span gave this basta*d Kristol almost an hour…
…to ACT like an EXPERT on Iraq, and the state of America/the world…
…a criminal TRAITOR who should be hung THEN shot for his LIES and propaganda on IRAQ and the CRIMINAL BUSHITE junta…
…and C-Span gave him AND Repulsivescum inbred callers the entire morning almost…
…to lie, spin, obfuscate, revise history and it MADE me ILL…
…the ONE caller who called in to challenge Kristol was cut off…
…by that BI*CH Connie whatever her last name is…
…now THERE’S a Repulsivescum C*NT if I ever saw one…
…C-Span has become shameful in its pandering to the right wing conned’self-serving 30% deadender Bushites…
…their format of Repulsivescum-Independent-Democrat-Repulsivescum-Democrat-Repulsivescum-Independent…
…clearly GIVES the ILLUSION that the Bushites are making acomeback…
…WE MUST TAKE BACK THE MEDIA!
…MSNBC’s political debate analysts were so ostensibly PRO-Hillary, “centrist”, ESTABLISHMENT…
…anyone who didn’t actually SEE the debate…
…would’ve thought the OTHER Dem candidates were potted plants and fumble-fu*ks…
…ESPECIALLY Obama…
…the WHITE MAN’s media went outof its usually racist way…
…to make Obama the night’s big LOSER and Hillary the night’s big WINNER…
…using none other than that stalwart left wing base teamof:
Bob Shrum and Pat Buchanan…
April 26th, 2007 at 11:39 pmRaven - I like Richardson, too - he and Edwards would be a good team (don’t care who is prez or vp) because one has the diplomatic and international relations background and the other is sold on domestic issues.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:42 pmWhy is a HACK like Kristol continually given a soap box to talk from when he has been consistantly 180 degrees off from reality and throughout the entire occupation and the run-up to it?
What does it take to get shamed off of TV and print? Apparently you can say any absurd thing as long as you’re pro-occupation and a pro-Bush Republicanist.
I’m going to go puke in disgust. Night ya’ll.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:47 pmThe other day I read “The Deserter’s Tale,” Joshua Key’s story. The book is full of terrible stories about what is alledgedly going on every day in Iraq, but the thing that disturbed me most about the book was a couple of little factoids he droped in with no fanfair, basically showing that it is the norm.
I don’t have the book with me, I loaned it to a friend, so I’m paraphrasing, but the first one was was when Josh woke in the night and reached for his gun “even though it had not worked for weeks.”
The second, later in the same chapter, he was talking about being on guard duty with another member of his unit and he states “that tonight they were fully armed in the guard tower as he had borrowed a working weapon from another member in his unit.”
How on Earth are these men and women meant to survive, let alone “win” when they don’t even have the absolute war basics like functioning weapons? The war is a farce and anyone who thinks otherwise is either deluded or has their own axe to grind. I don’t care if they want a new world order or to return to a “simpler time,” enough is enough, if you have an axe to grind, good for you, but it’s time to stop grinding it on the bodies of the soldiers who never made it home and the bodies of the innocent Iraqis who have lost their homes, their country and their identities.
April 26th, 2007 at 11:49 pmThought Police out in force…
…goodbye TP…
April 26th, 2007 at 11:53 pmAfter all the completely wrong calls this man has made… how can anyone in good faith put this guy on as an *expert* in any topic?
April 27th, 2007 at 12:44 amSleazyBilly…Please Support the Troops and walk into Dark Alleys Alone whenever you can.
There are a LOT of very angry marines and paratroopers that would love to turn you into one greasy little SPOT for all your “work”.
April 27th, 2007 at 12:58 amKristol belongs in prison.
April 27th, 2007 at 1:05 am#124 I agree. Although I won’t ADVOCATE it, if a disgruntled soldier took out Kristol, I’d feel that he GOT WHAT HE DESERVED…
April 27th, 2007 at 1:54 amWhat’s the difference between Bill Kristol and the Grinch?
April 27th, 2007 at 1:57 amEven though it was three sizes too small, the Grinch’s heart was still a thousand times larger than Kristol’s.
#97
Actually, to be fair Kristol has one son who is Marine ROTC and will likely be heading over very soon when he graduates to all these places his dad wants to go to war with.
I don’t agree with Kristol on much, but I do respect that unlike the rest of the GOP he doesn’t change his convictions whenever it may impact him personally (like all the GOP Senators with family members with diseases who suddenly supported stem cell research).
April 27th, 2007 at 2:09 amWe won the war. And then there was the occupation. The only way you subdue a population is by making their lives better. BushCo isn’t even an improvement over Saddam. That is pathetic.
Comment by JPark
I wish people would stop repeating this, as it is incorrect, and uncritically accepts the republican take on the issue. The war was never won, because it never ended; it merely shifted gears, to a guerilla-war phase. Please stop repeating this canard, OK?
April 27th, 2007 at 2:09 amCanard??
I once owned a Rolls/Canardly!!
Rolls down one hill, Canardly make it up the next…
April 27th, 2007 at 2:29 amPatience, big papa. I do need to read you.
April 27th, 2007 at 2:42 amTypical Israel-First Zionist POS. War for Israel no matter what it costs the stupid goyim.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:21 am……..
its ALL about the oil, about stopping it completely, because the taliban wanted a bigger cut for the pipeline through their turf. its ALL about the genocide and scorched earth policy of using DEPLETED URANIUM MUNITIONS to destroy ALL LIFE in the area, inclusive to our people sent there who also infect their loved ones upon returning. its probably also ALL about the OPIUM.. taliban destroyed all the crops when they didnt agree to giving them their cut for above mentioned pipeline. VIETMAN, tons of opium was brought into the US in soldiers coffins. its ALL ABOUT ALL OF THESE THINGS !! (how did CIA man get the nickname ‘poppy bush’ ?!!) they dont care how many suffer or die at all in wanting total control everywhere and profits made in these exploitations regardless of how criminal and will say ANYTHING to try to justify it all, the world knows whats going on and who the real terrorists are… the ones running this BS show lining their pockets.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:21 amAnd _that_, folks, is why we call these war-mongering, shit-sacks, neocon SCUM.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:24 am“Foreign policy obligations of the future” - what does this glib little man have in mind?
He could probably be called on his remark that he argued for a larger military (did he say “after 9/11″?) - I seem to recall that Rumsfeld wanted a leaner military for a “cakewalk” and that he wanted to rely on air power to extend power. Rumsfeld was the object of a fawning biography by Kristol’s mother, Midge Decter.
This man will keep lying the way a leaky pipe will keep spewing sewage. He is evasive and dismissive, even of a caller like the one he heard. He is not entitled to be in the driver’s seat of our foreign policy — and for another metaphor, he’s the dishonest cabdriver who takes the longest path for his own gain. The only virtue of listening to him? Know your enemy.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:39 amReality and the truth is poisonous to neoclowns like kristol, trannie coulter, and our own little home grown toyko rose michelle malkin. consistently, when confrtonted by the facts, they grow visibly uncomfortable and skirt the issue presented to them which, is glaringly apparent in kristol’s response to the caller. if kristol “had dinner” with “friends who’s son just returned from iraq” you can be sure that “friend’s son” had a nice cushy job within the green zone thanks to favors pulled by scumbags like kristol and came home with some of those five dollar rugs mc cain was so proud of buying in baghdad
April 27th, 2007 at 9:42 amSo we should create policy based on what the wives of military members feel? This is your normal liberal PR bullcrap. Once again with meaningless emotional drivel. You should be ashamed using our military wives against their husbands cause.
BTW, Maybe make a post explaining how retreating will somehow provide a better chance for democracy, freedom, and peace in Iraq over having the USA work to fix the problem we created. Also, please explain how it is morally ok to leave the Iraqi people right in the middle of their struggle for democracy. I really want to know what your thinking because bailing on the Iraqi people right now seems extremely heartless.
April 27th, 2007 at 10:19 amLaura Bush can say she’s suffered more than women who’ve lost husbands, fathers, and sons.
Comment by david
Only because she is married to Chimpy. Which is why she is looking more and more like a stoned idiot. She smiled at the Easter Rabbits on the White House lawn and (she had the gall) to have the same smile on her face at the Virginia Tech memorial service. Laura deserves what she gets.
April 27th, 2007 at 10:32 amKristol is a nazi. Pure and simple. End of story.
April 27th, 2007 at 10:45 amKristol is so hot.
April 27th, 2007 at 11:16 amKristol is a Zionist warmongering, PNAC ahole! Period! He is pure evil and LIES, LIES AND LIES! HE and rest of pure evil PNAC Zionist group ONLY gives a damn about Zionist agenda and that is ALL! And their selfish, lying BS about reasons for illegal,immoral wars! HE IS PURE EVIL AND A TOTAL LIAR! And needs to be given HELL everyday! Along with rest of PURE EVIL ZIONIST bastards in PNAC! And pure evil New World Order too! Who DO worship Satan, I kid you NOT!
April 27th, 2007 at 11:25 amjay b how do you know he has a son in rotc,and he’s going to IRAQ,so give me the numbers to the lottory.
April 27th, 2007 at 11:28 amComment by ann dover — April 26, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
RIGHT ON! NONE OF THESE PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP GUNG HO WAR PROFITEERING BASTARDS EVER SERVE! THEY ARE ALL TOO BUSY MAKING BLOOD MONEY OFF OUR INJURIED AND DEAD TROOPS THROUGH HALLIBURTON AND REST OF DEFENSE INDUSTRY TO GIVE A DAMN ABOUT OUR POOR TROOPS, MUCH LESS INNOCENT FOREIGNER’S! THE ONLY PEOPLE F*CKING KRISTOL CARES ABOUT IS AIPAC AND PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP AND ZIONIST F*CKING PURE EVIL AGENDA! WAKE UP SHEEPLE! AIPAC AND ISRAEL ARE RUNNING AND RUINING AMERICA TOO! Google: PNAC and READ! They are behind 9-11 too! They even said in their “Plans” that they needed a “New Pearl Harbor” for their sick, pure evil plans to move quicker! THEY HAD PLANS LONG BEFORE 9-11 TO INVADE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN! THE PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP OF WHICH THIS PIECE OF SHIT KRISTOL IS PART OF, HAD PLANS IN 2000 TO INVADE IRAQ, WHETHER SADDAM WAS THERE OR NOT! THEY EVEN SAY SO IN THEIR F*CKING, PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY! I kid you NOT! They are pure, PURE EVIL AND PURE TRAITORS TO AMERICA! Most if NOT all of them have DUAL citizenship between U.S. and Israel! Which is BULLSHIT AS YOU KNOW WHERE THEIR LOYALITES LIE AND IT IS NOT WITH AMERICA! NEITHER IS MOST OF CONGRESS’S LOYALTY WITH AMERICA BUT WITH ISRAEL, MCCAIN INCLUDED AND OBAMA TOO! AND OTHERS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT, INCLUDING HELLARY, TOO! THEY ARE ALL, ALL PART OF PURE EVIL NEW WORLD ORDER WHO DOES,DOES WORSHIP SATAN, I KID YOU NOT!
April 27th, 2007 at 11:34 amKristol is pure SCUM and worse and belongs to PURE EVIL PNAC GROUP!
April 27th, 2007 at 11:36 amFirst of all, the United States is NOT a democracy; it is a constitutional republic. There is a HUGE difference. Ben Franklin said that a democracy ALWAYS leads to tyranny. As he put it, “A democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on whats for dinner.” Bill Kristol and his neo-con peers think in terms of theories and ideals; which are great if you live in a vacuum. Unfor