Boehner Voted For Somalia Withdrawal, Now Claims We Can’t Leave Iraq ‘Like We Did In Somalia’
Boehner Voted For Somalia Withdrawal, Now Claims We Can’t Leave Iraq ‘Like We Did In Somalia’
In 1993, current House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) voted numerous times to limit the deployment of troops in Somalia, including one bill that set a six-month timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces.
Like several other war supporters who once backed timelines, Boehner now attacks those who favor redeploying U.S. troops out of Iraq’s civil war as “defeatists” who want a “date certain for surrender.”
But Boehner has taken this hypocrisy to a new level. Despite clamoring for a withdrawal from Somalia in 1993, he had the temerity to charge yesterday that war critics were “walk[ing] out” on Iraq “just like we did in Somalia.”
Watch it:
Details on Boehner’s Somalia votes below:
Boehner voted to reduce troop timeline in Somalia from one year to six months: “Gilman, R-N.Y., substitute amendment to reduce from one year to six months the authorization of U.S. participation in Somalia and delete the section of the bill complying with the War Powers Resolution of 1973 (PL 93-148).” (House roll call vote #179, 5/25/93)
Boehner voted to move up the deadline to bring troops home from Somalia: “Gilman, R-N.Y., amendment to change the deadline for the removal of U.S. troops in Somalia from March 31, 1994, to Jan. 31, 1994.” (House roll call vote #555, 11/9/93)
Boehner voted against $1.8 billion in funding for the operation in Somalia: “Passage of the bill to provide $1.8 billion in new budget authority in fiscal 1993, including funds for Operation Restore Hope in Somalia.” (House roll call vote #188, 5/26/93)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :) I just love me some irony!!
April 27th, 2007 at 4:45 pmWow, Boehner is a ventriloquist. He can talk out both sides of his mouth.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:49 pm*jaw drops*
April 27th, 2007 at 4:49 pmSpudge,
I’m not sure that’s his mouth.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:51 pmWhat do expect from a guy who covers for a child molester.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThis means that smokey is also a hypocrite.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:51 pmThey always look so sincere when they’re being hypocritical.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:52 pm…and the chances of the MSM picking up on this discrepancy?……
April 27th, 2007 at 4:53 pmwow!
April 27th, 2007 at 4:54 pmthey are still allowed to speak such nonsense.
mind is a terrible thing to waste.
selective memory is amaing isn’t it?
Boner, shut up and go home.
April 27th, 2007 at 4:55 pmI am sorry, I just can’t help it. Everything this twit says is funny to anyone that knows the truth. But I can’t help but prefer the commentary that Beavis and Butthead would provide for this fellow.
There is nothing that he would say that would be any more important than the boys saying “boner” he, haa he ha. yeah, boner, hah hehe
kind of like our own MSM press corpse in a large way, hmm?
April 27th, 2007 at 4:56 pmYou have accidentally put the Republican’s in the majority…
“current House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH)”
The thought alone frightens me…
April 27th, 2007 at 4:58 pmC’mon guys, he is a Republican. What else did you expect?
Expect this: Post-2008, checks and balances and denying the President the Congressional rubber stamp will become Republican “principles”. Opposition to the President on each and every issue, big or small, will become an integral “part of their job”. The corporate medias will suddenly become “investigative and responsible”.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:00 pmFlip.
Flop.
Flip.
Flop.
Just another day in Boehner’s brain.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:00 pm#11…thank you for that Beavis and Butthead moment.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:00 pmSo we should leave Iraq like we did Somalia?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:00 pmAnother hypocritical SOB in the GOP…go figure.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:01 pmDo as I say, not as I do.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:01 pmUm, isn’t he the current House Minority leader? Or have I been on an extended hallucination since the elections?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:02 pmWhat a Boner
April 27th, 2007 at 5:02 pmdoes anyone know of any other word that is spelled with an “oe” as in Boehner
that is pronounced as a long “a” sound?
I can’t think of any.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:04 pmhmmmm…….
More of the greatest hits of John Boehner:
“Rumsfeld is the best thing that’s happened to the Pentagon in 25 years.”
House Majority Leader John Boehner, (R-OH), October 29, 2006.
“I wonder if [Democrats] they’re more interested in protecting the terrorists than protecting the American people.”
House Majority Leader John Boehner (R-OH), September 12, 2006.
“He [Delay] has served our nation with integrity and honor.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:04 pmHouse Majority Leader John Boehner, (R-OH), April 4, 2006
May I remind every one of our Lady Z’s famous quote….SSDD….What a boner this guy realy is give him 2 minute’s and it will change..LOL….Blessings
April 27th, 2007 at 5:05 pmSo where are all the GOP trolls trying to spin and excuse this crap? Where are the claims that somehow CLinton did something bad two, so this doesn’t matter?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:05 pmPerhaps someone should ask John Boehner if he now believes he should have not voted “to limit the deployment of troops in Somalia, including one bill that set a six-month timeline for the withdrawal of U.S. forces” and if he should have instead supported President Clinton. I would still disagree with Mr. Boehner’s opposition to pulling U.S. troops out of Iraq, but if he repudiates his earlier position he is, at least somewhat, consistent…
April 27th, 2007 at 5:07 pmSo we should leave Iraq like we fled Somalia?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:08 pmPuffy Mc Tanbooth sure does have a hard time recalling his own statements.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:08 pmHe should smack a nicotine patch on his pie hole and STFU.
Remember the time Bush wanted an exit strategy and a time-table from Clinton?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:08 pmAn uncanny similarity…
http://bimplebean.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 04/ okay-this-is-unfair-but.html
April 27th, 2007 at 5:09 pmClinton did it, too! So did Pelosi!
April 27th, 2007 at 5:09 pmUncanny.
http://bimplebean.blogspot.com/ 2007/ 04/ okay-this-is-unfair-but.html
April 27th, 2007 at 5:10 pmAhhh, Zooey-ism’s.
Gotta love ‘em.
Thanks, Sharon.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:11 pmNow that Boehner is a Class A Wanker.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:12 pmSo a guy can’t vote for something, see bad results from it and then allow his mind to change? He has to be charged with being a hypocrite for learning from his mistakes?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:12 pmThe truly shocking thing is that he didn’t say ”We can’t walk out on Iraq like BILL CLINTON did in Somalia.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:13 pmShould we flee Iraq the way we fled Somalia? Is that a good idea?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:15 pmHEADLINE - - “Boehner Voted For Somalia Withdrawal, Now Claims We Can’t Leave Iraq ‘Like We Did In Somalia’”
So NOW we should criticize John Edwards, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, et al who have “changed” their minds on Iraq? They were thoughtfully changing their mind, right? Or they learned the error in their judgment, right? Or should we applaud them for sticking their fingers in the wind and triangulating with such finesse??
Your hypocritical inconsitency is telling - but hardly surprising.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:17 pmDid it ever occur to you that Boehner may have learned the lesson of Somalia?
Afterall bin-Laden himself cites our retreat from Somalia as another example of the US as a paper lion.
And, of course, Somalia today is a war-torn basketcase of a country run by warlords and Taliban-like Islamists….Is that the future you so called “liberals” would like to see for Iraq?
I guess it is.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:17 pmIs leaving Iraq like we left Somalia a good idea?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:20 pmBoner didn’t admit he made a mistake. He didn’t even admit the quotes.
So yes, he is a hypocrite.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:20 pm#31……LOL…Yah! sure, you betcha…..Like that will work here after all the reich winged evil doer’s have done to our counrty, troop’s and the world..More of the “do as I say”..PZZZZZZZZZ.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:20 pmSo a guy can’t vote for something, see bad results from it and then allow his mind to change? He has to be charged with being a hypocrite for learning from his mistakes?
Comment by eljer — April 27, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
That didn’t seem to be the modus operandi when Kerry voted for giving GWB to defend the U.S. against a Middle East threat and then stating that he was against the war in Iraq. It cuts both ways this flip-flop thingy. I don’t recall any of your kind of consideration back in the day. Karma is a bitch eh?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:21 pmLearn from his mistakes… was he around during Vietnam, or no? We won’t give him as hard of a time if he’d learned from that one…
April 27th, 2007 at 5:21 pm#31 So we should have stayed in Somolia?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:22 pm#31 So we should have stayed in Somolia?
————————————————————–
We shouldn’t have run with our tail tucked between our legs. Our retreat from Somalia was a great inspiration for al-Qaeda, they cite it often in their videos and taped recordings.
Now the Ethiopians are in Solalia fighting the fight we left behind.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:27 pmShould we flee Iraq the way we fled from Somalia and the consequences of that retreat?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pmIt’s embarrassing to admit I’m live in Ohio. Thanks goodness this clown is not my rep.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:29 pmHow do you spell Republican? H Y P R O C R I T E!
These people are stunning in their hypocracy. I bet they really hate the internets. Pesky thing these internets. People can actually look up what I said 10 years ago.
Comment by eljer - if he had said that he voted to withdraw from Somalia and now sees that it was a big mistake, then I would say that he has learned from his mistakes. But, that’s not what he said. He has probably forgotten what he said that many years ago. And since his belief system is political and not moral, he probably sees no hypocracy in what he has said.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:30 pmComment by eljer — April 27, 2007 @ 5:12 pm
See SWIFTBOAT - JOHN KERRY and then try your comment again! If THAT does not work, try GOOGLE SWIFTBOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH and you will see why HIS hypocrisy is so transparent…
Does anyone have some ointment for his (BONER’s) athlete’s mouth??? It must be very painful to keep on sticking his foot in his mouth this way???
April 27th, 2007 at 5:30 pmCan we all just agree to pronounce it BONER in all public discussions?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:33 pmCan we all just agree to pronounce it BONER in all public discussions?
Comment by Barry in MIA
I second that, Barry.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:36 pmMaybe the good readers of TP need to get up to speed on the sudden murderous interest of the Bush crime family in Somalia and their subrosa support of the Ethiopian occupation of Somalia. A hint:this interest is the same sort of interest B & C have shown in Iraq. Just do a google or a clusty search on “Conoco Somalia Ltd” and check out the first hit. Lots of good background…
April 27th, 2007 at 5:37 pmif these clowns didn’t take themselves so seriously, they’d actually be funny. is everyone in the waahhhpublican party stricken with alzheimers?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:41 pmBoehner:
Those superstitious savages just don’t get it. Everyone knows the truth is that killing Islamocameljockeyoarabifacists and their allies is the answer to get to Gaw-duh.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:42 pmdoes anyone know of any other word that is spelled with an “oe†as in Boehner that is pronounced as a long “a†sound?
Actually yes. I used to have a co-worker whose last name was “Schoen”; he pronounced it “Shane”. And he didn’t have the incentive that Boehner has.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pmBoehner is a known Nazi thug. The good people of Ohio need to kick that lying rat out of office.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pmShorter republic version: “Don’t pull a boner like I did.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pmIn German, the second of two vowels is how you pronounce it. But yes, he is a boner!
April 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pmWhat a boner.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:56 pmHmmm..My comments keep geting deleted.
So much for free speech.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:00 pmRingo,
Beware the f*ck filter…..
;)
April 27th, 2007 at 6:03 pmIn German, the second of two vowels is how you pronounce it. But yes, he is a boner!
Not really. “Oe” in German (usually spelled as “ö” (”o” with a dieresis)) is pronounced not as “e” but as a sort of mixture of the two vowels, like the sound of “eu” in French “peu” or “dieu”.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pmtrueblue,
I didn’t use any profanity. I simply made some remarks about the cost of retreat from Somalia….and how al-Qaeda has used it for propaganda purposes in their videos and tapes.
Do we really want Iraq to fall into the hands of Taliban-like Islamists the way that Somalia has?
Boehner is right to learn from the lsson of Somalia.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:09 pmNo, Boehner is a ventriproctologist - he can talk out of his mouth and his ass at the same time.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:12 pmIn Ohio lots of funny things have happened to the spelling and pronunciation of German names — which are very common.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:14 pmnoncarbo-
Not quite. “Dieu” would be umlauted “u”… umlauted “o” does, in fact, sound a lot like “o” in “boner”–as a Canuck might pronounce it, eh?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:15 pmCan we all just agree to pronounce it BONER in all public discussions?
Comment by Barry in MIA
I second that, Barry.
Comment by trueblue — April 27, 2007 @ 5:36 pm
I don’t know, isn’t a Boner a positive thing. How about calling him deBoner.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:16 pmif these clowns didn’t take themselves so seriously, they’d actually be funny. is everyone in the waahhhpublican party stricken with alzheimers?
Comment by deport neoclown filth — April 27, 2007 @ 5:41 pm
Well with Reagan as their one true god …
April 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pmSomalia was entirely different! That was a Democratic Commander in Chief, of course, so Boner’s actions were entirely justified.
Wait, did I say different? I meant setting a timetable and cutting off funding for the military mission back then is exactly the same as the Iraq Accountablility Act. Sheesh, why can’t you people keep up?
*eye roll*
April 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pmDepends on the situation and the gender, Shane.
:}
April 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pmClinton did it, too! So did Pelosi!
Comment by Patrick1, Jake, ct ,firehead, valiant venus, and Captain Kirk — April 27, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
You left out the names of michael and Tracy, who always use the “but Clinton” “defense” (if you can call it that).
April 27th, 2007 at 6:27 pmHmmm….While you clowns make boner jokes, I make ON TOPIC comments about the legacy of retreat from Somalia and all of my comments are deleted.
Typical Leftists.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:28 pmDepends on the situation and the gender, Shane.
:}
Comment by trueblue — April 27, 2007 @ 6:20 pm
Well I’m going to have to give this more serious consideration. I’ve been married so long it’s all a little hazy.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:32 pmHow do you pronounce this guys name?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:37 pm“It cuts both ways this flip-flop thingy. I don’t recall any of your kind of consideration back in the day. Karma is a bitch eh?”
It’s not about revenge, DaveC, it’s about good politics. Do you want a system where a politician is locked in for all time - even 13 years later - for a vote? Or is it better to remember that great Republican, Abraham Lincoln: “As our situation is new, so must we think anew?”
April 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmWhen I heard the Boehner saying that “Sure, we could walk away from Iraq, just like we walked away from Lebanon, just like we walked away from Vietnam,” all I could think to say was, Alright!! Great!!
I accept his offer!!
Let’s just walk away from Iraq, just like we walked away from Lebanon and how we walked away from Vietnam.
Sure, those latter two don’t accurately describe what the US did after pulling its troops out, but hey, good enough.
If John Boehner is offering for us to now walk away from Iraq, I accept it.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:44 pmAs our situation is new, so must we think anew?â€
Comment by eljer
Sorry, but that’s liberal republican Lincoln. And his situation didn’t include starting an unjust war. His war was just. Try again.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:01 pmAbsolutely disgusting how humane life is played with using politics and vanity.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:27 pmHe is such a legendary leader and brave warrior that we should call him Beowulf Boehner. As a matter of fact, if we want to witness his eyes glaze over with incomprehension and ignorance, we should name him Beowulf to his face. Boewulf’s staff of third tier cretins would have to scramble to look it up in the Pat Robertson Dictionary. “Let’s see..Boe…Boe…”
April 27th, 2007 at 7:39 pmlet’s see…there was THE blackhawk in Somalia and how many blackhawks down has there been since operation Iraqi freedom started?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:42 pmJohn Boehner is a douchbag extraordinaire and a pedophile-enabling sleazebucket to boot. It’s time to begin investigating Boehner and Hastert’s complicity in the pedophile scandal. If he thinks he’s off the hook on that one because there’s more critical corruption to investigate, he’s only half right because we’ll certainly get back to him later to put his butt in jail.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:46 pmdemdandy: The only thing the makes Boehner’s eyes glaze over is a teen age boy in very tight pants. This man is a certified sicko.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:47 pmHis name should be Beowulf Boehner, as he is superior in leadership and in combat.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmveritas: right you are. as we write, he is being measured for his orange jump suit.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:09 pmNo. 67 Comment by demdandy — April 27, 2007 @ 7:57 pm
You said:
His name should be Beowulf Boehner, as he is superior in leadership and in combat.
Really?! In combat?? He never made it out of training!
Here is Wikipedia on his military service.
During the Vietnam War, he enlisted in the Navy. He was discharged after eight weeks of training because of a bad back.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:24 pm#64
Interesting suggestion, although I’m more partial to “Grendel’s Mother”
#65
That worry of multiple legal investigations might explain why Boehner and Hastert were pitching the biggest hissy fits against the FBI’s search of La Rep Wm “Cold Cash” Jefferson’s Congressional offices last year
April 27th, 2007 at 8:26 pmA cursory investigation will reveal that the people in the Middle East hate our occupation and attempts to force our will on their region is why they hate us…the ignorant Reichwingers could give a shit less…they just lie and try to give the military industrial complex and oil companies what they desire.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:30 pmCongrats, Boner! You won the “Worst Person in the World”, on Countdown tonight, for this flip flop lie.
Just another lying hypocrite of the reichwing.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:45 pmThank goodness…
…there are no repulsivescum…
…in my sphere…
…who would DARE reveal him/herself to me…
…no telling what I might do…
April 27th, 2007 at 9:40 pmBoehner is full of manipulative Republican talking points:
1. “When will we stand up and fight?”
2. In the past, we just “hoped that that the problem would go away. It’s not just going to go away.”
3. “People who are raised to believe that hating freedom is the answer to get to Allah are not just going to go away.”
He was on “Meet the Press” on 2-12-07 and his answer to Tim Russert’s first question included:
— “Victory in Iraq is the only option.”
— “Iraq is a small part in a global war being waged by radical Islamic terrorists.”
— “If we don’t have victory in Iraq, the consequences of failure are immense: a destabilized Iraq, a safe haven for terrorists, possible access to their oil revenue, destabilizing the greater Middle East. (And) what happens to Israel?
— “Who doesn’t believe that if we withdraw and leave that chaos in the Middle East that the terrorists won’t follow us here to the United States?”
— “Victory, victory is the only option.”
He seems to be stuck in a pattern.
April 27th, 2007 at 9:42 pmHere is a wimp who would’nt make it through one night of combat in Iraq without soiling himself … and he is calling on our troops to stay in that shooting barrel ? What kind of wimps do they let in the door everyday at the Capital building ? Again, Congressmen should be mandated to serve death notice duty in their districts during time of war. It should be a law. That way, they will be so horrified that they will do one of two things. A) Get us the f_ck out of a bad situation quickly or B) contribute in some meaningful way to end the war as quickly as possible. Here is a man that actually passed out check on the floor of a vote that were given to him by the tobacco lobby. Does anyone actually believe that this man is not taking money from the 1) the military lobby, 2) the gun lobby 3) the oil lobby. He is a male whore, and he makes me puke to look at him.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:16 amYes, John. Keep on hiding behind the bodies of our dead soldiers (not to mention continued Iraqi civilians).
What a brave, brave man.
They should send a couple of body bags directly to his office to give him some direct cover. Then he can wallow in their bravery….if he can stand the stench of death.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:30 amDidn’t we “pull out of Lebanon” during Ronald Reagan’s administration? Wasn’t that after 242 people died in the bombing of the Marine Corps barracks?
April 28th, 2007 at 4:11 amChris Shays is having a series of town hall meetings in my area over the next few days. I would like to find out if he voted/spoke like many of the republican party on Somalia, Haiti, etc. Anyone have a good source for this?
April 28th, 2007 at 5:58 amSo to TP, it is wrong for someone to learn from their mistakes? Boehner is correct, but this is obvious. Somolia is a crap hole all because we left before the mission was over. Boehner was wrong to vote for retreat and defeat from Somolia. History has proven him wrong. This post from TP is a tad confusing. Are you saying it is wrong for Boehner to learn from his mistakes? Are you saying he was correct to vote for retreat and lose in Somolia? If so, please explain how Somolia got better because we left. To the average onlooker, the fact that we left Somolia destroyed any chance that country had at democracy and simply looking at the place proves me right.
So, what is TP upset about?
April 28th, 2007 at 10:21 amSo to TP, it is wrong for someone to learn from their mistakes? Boehner is correct, but this is obvious. Somolia(x5)(SIC) is a crap hole all because we left before the mission was over…….To the average onlooker, the fact that we left Somolia(x5) destroyed any chance that country had at democracy and simply looking at the place proves me right.
Rogerx2
April 28th, 2007 at 10:33 amYou certainly don’t learn from mistakes yourself, do you? You spelled Somalia wrong only five times in your post., or maybe you simply didn’t look at it as well as you think.
Careful Roger_Roger. You’re getting yourself tied up in knots trying to defend this idiot. The next pretzel the preznit chokes on could be you!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:16 pmWe need a commercial. The tag line of which would say:
“Even John Boehner doesn’t think John Boehner is fit to serve in congress.”
April 28th, 2007 at 12:18 pmComment by Roger_Roger — April 28, 2007 @ 10:21 am
Shit for brains 28%er, or knuckle dragging troglodyte.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:07 pmWill someone please take away Mr. Droopy-peepers bong? He’s got no long term memory left at all.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:12 pmGod I wish they would show relative voting histories behind their heads when they say crap like that. He can’t even remember what he’s said or how he voted in the past. Just another attack dog…just put the scent on his nose and point and there he goes barking. He’s about as shallow as Laura Bush who suffers most of anybody about Iraq.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:41 pmWell, I hear the man drinks a bit so maybe he really doesn’t remember what he said back then. I just thank god every day that the republican minority is led by this man. It’s all but guaranteeing an even smaller minority as of 11/08. And the idiots will probably still elect him (or someone equally dim, can anyone think of any (R) who’d be an improvement?) as minority leader, all but guaranteeing an even smaller minority in 2010. Etcetera. Etcetera.
It’s wonderful watching them all circling the bowl, isn’t it?
April 28th, 2007 at 6:56 pmFunny thing how “what goes around” tends to “come around” and slam it’s way into your colon at breakneck speed. I’d look as wooden as the “boner” too if I had ten tons of karma rammed up my sphincter…
April 29th, 2007 at 1:43 amAnd Lets Not Forget Senator Surge McCain when Clinton was President.
McCain on Withdrawing from Haiti in 1994
http://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=palbo-ilalU&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2F
McCain on Withdrawing from Somalia in 1993
April 30th, 2007 at 11:56 amhttp://www.youtube.com/ watch?v=o8TFKXHiefs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Edailykos%2Ecom%2F
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