“I’m just envisioning what it would be like
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“I’m just envisioning what it would be like
to be a young soldier in the middle of Iraq and realizing that politicians have all of the sudden made military determinations. And in my judgment, that would put a kid in harm’s way, more so than he or she already is.” — President Bush, today, on how withdrawing a soldier from Iraq will place him in greater danger
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OMG he is a moron.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe irony is that since Bush is incapable of empathy he can’t see how his politics have put soldier’s in harm’s way since 2003.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pmHere’s an idea: George, why don’t you go over to the middle of Iraq, go on patrols with “real” soldiers, and see what it’s like?
Was it not a political decision that placed troops in the middle of Iraq in the first place?
Was it not, in fact, your decision, dear “decider?”
Dumbass.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pmIs that supposed to mean something?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:28 pmWhat a retard our president is.
Of course….all he can do is “envision” because he never really served his country in the military…just as most of his cabinet had “other things to do” when their country called them.
Why? Because…as they still believe today..only the peasants serve in the military.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:30 pmHuh?
I mean, he usually baffles the crap outta me, but…
Huh?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:31 pmMore of the Bush greatest Iraq hits:
“I must tell you, I’m sleeping a lot better than people would
assume.
- President Bush, December 14, 2006
“Death is terrible.”
- President Bush, April 19, 2007.
“No one suffers more than their President and I do.”
- Laura Bush, April 25, 2007.
“But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it’s gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it’s, it’s not relevant. So, why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:31 pm- Barbara Bush, 2003
OKAY TROLLS!!!
How does one DEFEND this IDIOTIC and MORONIC comment???
I’ll wait…(crickets chirping)
April 27th, 2007 at 5:32 pmSharp as a tack, Junior.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:33 pmA mind is a terrible thing to waste.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:36 pmSometimes the things this man says makes my head hurt. His illogical thinking is brilliant! What is harmful to our troops is to send them into that meat grinder in the first place. What is harmful to our troops is to send them in tired, ill equipped, injured and untrained.
The American public is finally on to you Georgie boy. They know who supports the troops and it isn’t you and it isn’t the Republics.
To any Republic who is running for office in 08′. Head for the hills because it’s going to be a blood bath.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:37 pmAn interview with a “grunt” in Iraq: http://lioninoil.blogspot.com/2007/04/interview-with-jake-wood_25.html
April 27th, 2007 at 5:38 pmOK everybody
Bush is the stupidest guy in class; everybody laffed at him when the teacher called on him. His entire life, hes never had to think anything through. Remember the debates?
he’s dumb.
Why doesnt some news person say…. ” Bush sounds like an idiot. He’s inarticulate, rambling, scatterbrained and he also blatantly lies every single day.”
Why cant ONE media person stand up and TELL IT LIKE IT IS?
WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN FIRST?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:40 pmWell if he hadn’t gone AWOL from Air National Guard Reserve during Vietnam he would not need to imagine.
Get a life! On second thought drop dead Shrub
April 27th, 2007 at 5:41 pmBringing them home would put them in harms way? Oh yeah, I forgot. They, the bad guys in Iraq, are going to follow the troops home. (Is that what you were looking for IraqVet?)
The more I think about the more I believe Bush and his cabal are afraid to leave all the construction that they have done over there on ‘non permanent’ bases. It’s a lot of stuff that would be left behind and that stuff is MONEY and OIL.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:42 pmAs opposed to preznit bush making “military determinations”? Is he not a politician?
Calling him “commander in chief” ought to make that soldier feel better about as much as putting lipstick on a pig makes it easier to kiss.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:44 pmRemember that TV show before 9/11 showing Bush as the dumbest guy in the room.
He is the idiot savant minus the savant.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:44 pm“A mind is a terrible thing to waste.
Comment by hellinabucket”
bush: “A mind is a terrible thing.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pm“A mind is a terrible thing to lose.”
April 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pm“I’m just envisioning what it would be like to be a young soldier in the middle of Iraq and realizing that politicians have all of the sudden made military determinations. And in my judgment, that would put a kid in harm’s way, more so than he or she already is.â€
George,
1) YOU are a politician. I know you think you’re a king, but you’re actually just a politician. You ran for office in an election. That makes you a politician.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pm2) YOU have made military determinations. YOU have overridden the decisions and plans of generals who know far more about waging war than you do. They even attended the War College. YOU were a deserter. YOU fired the ones who didn’t agree with you. Remember?
3) YOU have put “kids” in harm’s way. You justified it with lies. You continue to lie about it. You refuse to listen to what the American people say about it. You pretend that you have no idea what the ‘06 election results mean.
4) YOU wouldn’t have to try to envision “what it would be like to be a young soldier in the middle of Iraq” if you hadn’t been such a chicken shit when it was your turn to be a young soldier in Vietnam. You might have some idea now of what you’re talking about if you hadn’t gotten special treatment and gotten out of serving there.
5) YOU need to shut your flapping simian lips, since nothing of any value is ever going to be uttered by them.
#13
Why cant ONE media person stand up and TELL IT LIKE IT IS?
You need to watch a bit more Keith Olberman on MSNBC… he’s been giving it to them like none other…
April 27th, 2007 at 5:48 pmBush is the stupidest guy in class…
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Preisdent Chimpsky has a degree from both Yale and a Masters in Business from Harvard….and he had a higher grade point average than John Kerry.
He also flew F-102 fighter jets. Here’s the inside of the cockpit of an F-102:
http://www.ejectejecteject.com/archives/08-F-106A_Delta_Dart_cockpit_sim.jpg
..Could you fly one?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:49 pm“A mind is a terrible thing to live without for so many years.”
G.W.B.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:50 pmand he HAS to imagine, because he NEVER WAS a young soldier stuck in the middle of the jungles of Viet Nam, or the desert of Iraq
April 27th, 2007 at 5:51 pm…yes, I’ve flown in simulators before too.
Has Bongo?
April 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pm..Could you fly one?
Comment by Ringo
If Bush could fly one, my mom could fly one.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pmAll the Democratic Senators should start calling Bush a Dumbass, retardate, buffon, clown….
The only people who would take offense are the Broder’s, and washington insiders….
everybody else would love it, because its true.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:52 pm..Could you fly one?
Comment by Ringo
So easy, even a caveman could do it. No offense, you cavemen out there. Or cavewomen. Or trolls…
April 27th, 2007 at 5:57 pmPreisdent Chimpsky has a degree from both Yale and a Masters in Business from Harvard…
Yeah, Bush went to Yale. As a “legacy” student, and his GPA only includes his first three years (his fourth year was done under a non-numerical grading system, and his grades were “similar”). Kerry at least managed to improve his grades, going from 4 D’s in his freshman year to a B- average in his senior year.
As for his Harvard MBA, a fat lot of good that’s done him since every business he’s been put in charge of has failed.
Face it – Bush may be a guy you can shoot the breeze with at a bar, but he’s no intellectual heavyweight. That’s what they sold the American people on – that Bush would surround himself with the “best and the brightest”.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:59 pmOf course he ENVISIONS what it would be like: he dodged the military through family connections.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:59 pmOrwellian doublespeak.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:03 pmThe C-I-C is ‘correct’ (no matter what anyone/everyone else thinks).
April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pmPreisdent Chimpsky has a degree from both Yale and a Masters in Business from Harvard….and he had a higher grade point average than John Kerry.
He also flew F-102 fighter jets.
Comment by Ringo — April 27, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
And I’m the freakin’ Queen of England! Could you remember to recite this piece of crap in addition to the other lies you spew in future discussions.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pmhe’s no intellectual heavyweight
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Fair enough….He’s also no good at articulating his ideas.
As someone who voted for him, I admit it can be embarrassing…and frustrating.
Still, my choices were Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004, so I had little choice but to vote Bush.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:05 pmRingo,
I bet you can’t stick to the topic on this thread. The quote is below. What do you think of it?
“I’m just envisioning what it would be liketo be a young soldier in the middle of Iraq and realizing that politicians have all of the sudden made military determinations. And in my judgment, that would put a kid in harm’s way, more so than he or she already is.â€
April 27th, 2007 at 6:06 pmFAILED SENATE CANDIDATE, HAROLD FORD, WAS ON FOX EARLIER AND SAID ALL THE ACTED “PRESIDENTIAL” LAST NIGHT EXCEPT FOR GRAVELAND KUCINICH.
TIME TO CAST THE RADICAL VOTES.
NOW WE KNOW WHY PAUL HACKETT OF OHIO WOULDN’T RUN.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pmHate to break it to Bush, but the politicians have already made decisions to put soldiers in harms way, starting with the ill-fated Iraq war.
need to resist the urge to bang my head against the moniter while mummering f*cking, f*cking a$$hole.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:11 pm“Was it not a political decision that placed troops in the middle of Iraq in the first place?
Was it not, in fact, your decision, dear “decider?â€
Dumbass.
Comment by Ranger Jay — April 27, 2007″
And just what was that political decision?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:12 pm“Is that supposed to mean something?
What a retard our president is.
Comment by Rocks911 — April 27, 2007″
And what morons you liberals are to not be able to see what’s at risk here!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:13 pm“Of course….all he can do is “envision†because he never really served his country in the military…just as most of his cabinet had “other things to do†when their country called them.
Why? Because…as they still believe today..only the peasants serve in the military.
Comment by Cobalt60 — April 27, 2007″
Get yout facts straight? He served in the Guard just like millions of otheres have and continue to do. What branch were you in?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:15 pmComment by Vinnie,
I bet you can’t stick to the topic….
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I agree with Bush’s remark….Democrats attempting to set timetables for withdrawl and comments like the one Harry Reid made earlier this week only embolden our enemies.
And yes, our enemies are listening to CNN.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:17 pmtake a listen.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:19 pmhttp://www.streamaudio.com/listen/default_gonew.asp?headertext=&Owner=Cox&station=wsb_am&PortalFormat=&OptIn=no&streamtype=archiveaudio&filename=040907_vick.asf
April 27th, 2007 at 6:20 pmI can’t wait for the GOP debates next week when they have to answer the question, “What makes you think the Republican Party is the right group to keep in place to fix this mess you’ve created by enabling this dullard in the White House and his neocon hacks?” And you thought it was a bitch being a Republican in 2006–wait until 2008.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:22 pmGeorgie Porgie, when I was a young troop who served in Vietnam, the first thing we did was construct a short timer calendar and each day we counted off one less day we had to get hit or to go back to the world. Chickenshit cowards like you would not understand the sacrifice of those you send to harms way. Only the chickenshit chickenhawks who have never worn the uniform will agree with your bullshit explanation. Bring the troops home. You should never have invaded Iraq. Live with it you fool.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:26 pmDoes George W Bush realize that he and all of his cabinet and the RNC are POLITICIANS?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:28 pm#22 Rongo
He also flew F-102 fighter jets.
That’s a skill, not a sign of intelligence. Randy “Duke” Cunningham was a real fighter pilot in Vietnam, and he could fly circles around Bush. Literally. But, I don’t think you’d describe Cunningham as a terribly bright fellow. The “Duke Stir”? Giving lobbyists a printed menu for graft contributions? Not too swift.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:28 pmGet yout facts straight? He served in the Guard just like millions of otheres have and continue to do. What branch were you in?
Comment by michael — April 27, 2007 @ 6:15 pm
It is commonly known to those old enough to remember that during the Vietnam War the National Guard was a way to stay out of Vietnam. How old are you? What branch of service have you served in, shit for brains. Most of those in the National Guard did not go AWOL, unlike the spoiled brat drunk in the White House did.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:30 pmMichael,
April 27th, 2007 at 6:31 pmGet out of here you stalking piece of sh!t! Mother F*cking piece of garbage, what in the hell makes you think anyone here cares what you think? You are a scum of the earth woman stalker! When you get caught by the police I hope you get to be the playmate to a dirty convict.
“I’m just envisioning what it would be liketo be a young soldier in the middle of Iraq and realizing that politicians have all of the sudden made military determinations. And in my judgment, that would put a kid in harm’s way, more so than he or she already is.†— G W Bush 4/27/2007
“Makes sense to me, Don’t it?” — G W Bush 6/6/2006
April 27th, 2007 at 6:32 pmPoor Ringo, still thinks CNN is some bastion of liberal reporting.
So, what did Bush say exactly? Thinking puts one in harm’s way? Is that why he avoids thinking…because he thinks it’s harmful?
What is he now, the Envisioner?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:33 pm#39 michael
And what morons you liberals are to not be able to see what’s at risk here!
Settle down, michael. We know what’s at risk. Bush is at risk of having to admit he was wrong and that he lied to the country. And, that’s so important that dedicated ass-kissing trolls like yourself are rushing to his defense, because you don’t want to admit you’re wrong, either. You’re defending a lying moron who hasn’t got the emotional maturity to bring himself to admit that he screwed up. That’s what this country’s stuck with here. A great big freakin’ baby.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:35 pmWhat branch of service have you served in, shit for brains. Most of those in the National Guard did not go AWOL, unlike the spoiled brat drunk in the White House did.
Comment by kasinca
micheal claimed tohave been in the Navy during Nam.
He also claims he had no MOS.
**eyes rolling**
the Navy changed from Mos toNEC AFTER Nam.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:36 pm#40 michael
Get yout facts straight? He served in the Guard just like millions of otheres have and continue to do. What branch were you in?
Get a clue, michael. He got special treatment to get him out of going to Vietnam. He jumped ahead of about 500 applicants for the Texas ANG, because his dad was a Republican congressman. He made a choice of staying stateside. And he didn’t even fulfill his Guard obligations. He deserted. He served time in a disciplinary unit. He was grounded because he wouldn’t take a flight physical. And we know why that was. He didn’t want to get caught as a coke addict.
He’s been nothing but a fraud his entire life. Get it through your thick skull.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:39 pmRingo,
how does one get into Yale with a “C” average? Think about it!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:43 pm#54 and so the story goes Harriet Miers paid off Ben Barnes, who was the Secretary of State or Lt. Governor of TX at the time so that he wouldn’t tell the story. He is the one who helped him jump ahead of the 500 or so applicants.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:47 pmHe also flew F-102 fighter jets. Here’s the inside of the cockpit of an F-102.
He was ALSO GROUNDED for FAILING TO TAKE AN ORDERED PHYSICAL.
Could a NORMAL soldier do THAT and not get his azz THROWN IN JAIL?
Nope…
April 27th, 2007 at 6:47 pmThe setting timetable argument is not one Bush can use. They said this would be a short war (setting a timetable) of 6 months. Carriers with mission accomplished signs, Parades of flowers. Many times has he made times that we would leave. When they stand up! We Stand down. The truth is that in 2006, by the ‘plan’ was to have only about 5,000 troops in Iraq. Bush doesn’t want to make a timetable because he knows it wouldn’t happen.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:49 pmTo answer michael the troll’s “political decision” question, he need look no further than Moyer’s excellent documentary, “Buying the War.” In their own words and actions, Moyer’s shows how the neo-cons and Bush cabal (along with the compliant mainstream media) turned our nation’s grief and anger over 9/11 into their long-desired opportunity to illegally invade a sovereign nation. It has to rank as the height of cynical, immoral and purely political manipulation.
And, anticipating a typical troll retort, the intelligence was not “bad”; these criminals knew exactly what they wanted and manufactured lie after lie after lie to get it. Well, now they got it. One of the thousands of sad ironies is that all of Saddam’s phony saber rattling was not aimed at us, but at the one enemy he truly feared and whom he needed to have believe he was still a powerful force to contend with: Iran! Thanks to Bushco, Iran and the radical elements of Islam are now stronger than ever. What a nightmare; what a bad, bad joke!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:50 pm“It is commonly known to those old enough to remember that during the Vietnam War the National Guard was a way to stay out of Vietnam. How old are you? What branch of service have you served in, shit for brains. Most of those in the National Guard did not go AWOL, unlike the spoiled brat drunk in the White House did.
Comment by kasinca — April 27, 2007″
My age is of no importance. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1965 – 1971. Who went AWOL? If you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:51 pm” a young soldier in the middle of Iraq and realizing that politicians have all of the sudden made military determinations.”
If those military determinations sent his young butt home alive to Momma and his girlfriend I suspect he would be in great favor of the idea and love the determinator to death.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:52 pm“Get out of here you stalking piece of sh!t! Mother F*cking piece of garbage, what in the hell makes you think anyone here cares what you think? You are a scum of the earth woman stalker! When you get caught by the police I hope you get to be the playmate to a dirty convict.
Comment by Bluedahlia — April 27, 2007″
My, your debating skills are marvelous! I don’t come to this blog because I care what people think of me, I come here to challenge idiots like you!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:53 pmAnd who made the decision in the first place, moron?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:54 pmHis policies. His bellicosity. His stubbornness. His unwillingness to talk to our enemies. His name calling. His unwillingness to admit error. His willingness to lie. His willingness to abuse his power. His willingness to sacrifice even more young people to satisfy his own blood lust. His belief in his “god” directing him.
“He deserted. He served time in a disciplinary unit. He was grounded because he wouldn’t take a flight physical. And we know why that was. He didn’t want to get caught as a coke addict.
He’s been nothing but a fraud his entire life. Get it through your thick skull.
Comment by chimpeach — April 27, 2007″
Ok, show us all the documentation that confirms this?
April 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pmI have been attempting to post a comment on the previous thread for an hour regarding our retreat from Somalia and how it has been used as propaganda by al-Qaeda in their videos and tapes ever since but the free speech censors here at Thinkprogress keep deleting my comment.
Meanwhile the regular deep thinkers here have been going on for an hour making boner jokes.
Brilliant
April 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pmProve he didn’t moron.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pmIf you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!
Comment by michael — April 27, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Not that it would matter, michael won’t accept any evidence no matter how accurate or factual that will mess with his world view. The thing I don’t get is why he would use his free time in the mental ward to be on this site as opposed to making baskets or drooling on himself.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:55 pm“Harriet Miers paid off Ben Barnes, who was the Secretary of State or Lt. Governor of TX at the time so that he wouldn’t tell the story. He is the one who helped him jump ahead of the 500 or so applicants.
Comment by kasinca — April 27, 2007″
I suppose you can back this up? You better do a better job than the forged military documents your fellow liberals got caught exposing!
April 27th, 2007 at 6:57 pmgive it up mike – we’re all hopelessly lost, so go practice your “salvation” skills somewhere else.
April 27th, 2007 at 6:58 pmHelp me out here. 75% of the American people want us out of Iraq. 56% want us out now. And yet, the republicans in congress, the ones who will have to run for office next year, REFUSE to override the veto of the lunatic in the White House, who is now polling at 33%????
Do they think that THEY will get away for their stupid obstinance like George????? They won’t. They are not George W Bush.
What about calling and writing and emailing all of the republican congressmen who have said they will not vote to override the veto and letting them know that if they don’t vote to override, they will be voting to overturn their seats to some democrats in 2008.
Americans have had quite enough of this BLOODY war and quite enough of throwing money down a bottomless well!!!!!
People should remind these blowhard jackasses that they work for the American people and if they refuse because of party loyalty, they won’t be working for anyone come January 2009
April 27th, 2007 at 6:59 pmFirst off I won’t waste my time resorting to anything produced by Moyers!
“these criminals knew exactly what they wanted and manufactured lie after lie after lie to get it.”
What lies are you referring to and can you prove it?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pm“…the spoiled brat drunk in the White House did.”
Comment by kasinca
Kasinca you are too kind. If he was ever as you say it wasn’t in the White House. He has been a sociopathic addict during and before his illegal residency in our White House.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:00 pmMichael, careful what you wish for:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A7372-2004Feb2?language=printer
In August 1972, Bush was suspended from flying because he failed to complete an annual medical exam. A month later, Bush requested to be assigned to a different unit in Alabama and was approved. Although he was required to attend periodic drills in Alabama, there is no official record in his file that he did.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:01 pm“Prove he didn’t moron.
Comment by Spudge_Boy — April 27, 2007″
I believe you tried this non-answer before? That’s not how it works. You liberals made the statement now back it up?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:02 pmMy age is of no importance. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1965 – 1971. Who went AWOL? If you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!
Comment by michael
Again, you claim to have been in the Navy during Nam.
What was your MOS or your NEC?
Prove you own claim f*ckwad
April 27th, 2007 at 7:06 pmMy age is of no importance. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1965 – 1971. Who went AWOL? If you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!
Comment by michael — April 27, 2007 @ 6:51 pm
Prove the missing gap in his military record is not AWOL. Were you allowed to go missing in action for four to five months? Were you allowed to avoid duty or avoid taking physical examinations? Get a life Sparky…the Drunken AWOL Chimp cannot prove the military records are wrong.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:06 pm#73…Official records are good enough for him. He wants someone to go back in time, film it, and then upload it to YouTube.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmWhat strikes me is that according to the NYT this is Bush offering an olive branch…
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/washington/27cnd-veto.html?ref=world
What the hell is wrong with these people?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:08 pmsuppose you can back this up? You better do a better job than the forged military documents your fellow liberals got caught exposing!
Comment by michael
Strike one: the documents weren’t forged. No one proved that.
“What lies are you referring to and can you prove it?”
Coming from someone who swallowed the admin’s line, isn’t it silly for you to be asking for proof, now, from others? I’d call it hypocritical.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:09 pmMy, your debating skills are marvelous!
Comment by michael
And yours are below the level of a 2 year old’s
All you know how to do is stalk women, post inane crap and namejack, like when you namejacked Zooey yesterday.
You are an honorless fool.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pmHey Michael, it is called a DD214. It is provided when you muster out and you are told to file a copy at the County Clerk of your home jurisdiction. I can prove when I was in the service with that document, you can too. Dubya cannot.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pmMy age is of no importance. I served in the U.S. Navy from 1965 – 1971. Who went AWOL? If you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!
Comment by michael
Another Jake. Wanna bet he’ll also be in some super-secret military outfit, and that’s why he can’t prove any of it?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:11 pmWell all this about bush crap is documented so I won’t flip it at the troll’s again, they are all brain dead any way..I will however remind one and all how bull shit bush screamed like a pig at Clinton for a time line……Now were on the bull shit bush created war and we demand the same thing….Stop the lie’s and corruption….Impeach this entire administration. seize their asset’s and put them in jail for war crime’s…If the 22% don’t like it tough, your not running the show any more and from the look’s of thing’s you may never be in power again, cause next time we will issue an IQ test before any one think’s of having a beer with a red neck dumb ass…….Blessings
April 27th, 2007 at 7:13 pmWell they deleted that comment as well.
So much for free speech on the Left.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:13 pmAnother Jake. Wanna bet he’ll also be in some super-secret military outfit, and that’s why he can’t prove any of it?
Comment by barfly
Even a defense intellegence agent has an MOS, so that claim would be bullsh*t LOL
April 27th, 2007 at 7:15 pmmichael,
I know this is probably useless but in logic and the proof of statistics there is a process called the “null hypothesis”. It is used to predict and determine the accuracy of a premise or theory. The process is simple: you assume the opposite to your hypothesis and attempt to prove its validity. If the null hypothesis cannot be proven then the reverse is true. The question at hand then is that Bush was AWOL during his term of military. The null hypothesis would state that Bush attended all his periodic drills. It has been proven that there “is no official record in his file that he did.” Therefore the null hypothesis fails and it is a fact that Bush was AWOL QED
April 27th, 2007 at 7:15 pmSo much for free speech on the Left.
Comment by Ringo
And yet I’m reading your post now. If you clean up your language, potty mouth, your posts will appear.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pmBush GROUNDED for failing to take an ORDERED physical:
http://www.awolbush.com/documents/BushGuardaugust1.pdf
And don’t start with the “Dan Rather” BS.
Miriam Carr Knox, Jerry Killian’s secretary said that although she did NOT type THOSE papers,
what was contained therein was TRUE.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/15/60II/main643768.shtml
Knox is 86 years old, and completely comfortable in the eye of a storm. She spent more than two decades keeping pilots and officers in line at Ellington Air Force Base in Houston. Now, she wants to set the record straight about the memos that CBS News obtained.
Knox says she didn’t type these memos, but she says she did type ones that contained the same information.
“I know that I didn’t type them,” says Knox. “However, the information in those is correct.â€
Knox says the information in the four memos that CBS obtained is very familiar, but she doesn’t believe the memos are authentic. She does, however, remember Killian being upset over Mr. Bush’s failure to take a physical.
“Did or did not Lt. Bush take a physical as ordered by Col. Killian,†Rather asks Knox.
“The last time, no he didn’t,†says Knox. “It was a big no-no to not follow orders. And I can’t remember anyone refusing to. Now for instance, with the physical, every officer knew that before his birthday he was supposed to have that flying physical. Once in a while they might be late, but there would be a good excuse for it and let the commander know and try to set up a date for a make-up. If they did not take that physical, they were off flying status until they did.â€
Did Knox ever hear Killian talk about this, or did he write memos about Bush not taking the physical?
“He was upset about it. That was one of the reasons why he wrote a memo directing him to go take the physical,†says Knox. “I’m going to say this, but it seems to me that Bush felt that he was above reproach.â€
BUSTED!
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
April 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmBush is a LIAR, WAR CRIMINAL, MURDERER and a silver-spoon PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA…
Ringo,
You put up the “they deleted my comment stuff alot. I think it is more of a cry wolf situation, then an actual deletion of your post. Please get help.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:17 pmYou prove it fu*k head. This is our house. Go get some info to prove Bush attended and passed his exam in the military or STFU.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pmApparently, Michael is beyond hearing the truth. Here’s a short list of Bushco lies, which have already been proven (and not by Moyers alone): the Prague meeting that never happened; WMDs in Iraq that were never there; the Niger yellowcake that did not exist; the al Queda camps in Iraq that never existed (until now!); Iraq was behind 9/11 (not!); Saddam and Bin Laden were chums (they hated one another!). As I said, “lie after lie after lie” from the treasonous Bushco war criminals.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:23 pmWell they deleted that comment as well.
So much for free speech on the Left.
Yeah, boo-frickin’-hoo.
Try posting at some of the wackjob sites like “free” republic or LittleGreasyFascists, say something that they don’t agree with, and you will be BANNED.
And Rush, Malkin, Coulter DON’T provide a place to comment on THEIR columns.
THERE’S your “free speech zone”, wingnutjob.
Enjoy…
April 27th, 2007 at 7:23 pmClyde the Ripper
I was never much of a one for the null hypothesis, because it assumes we are in possetion of all the facts.
Rather I go on the fact that the military keeps records of its soldiers, Bush would have used his record to defend himself at the time and he didn’t, therefore the likely answer is that Bush wasn’t present at the time. Hence: AWOL with connections.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:27 pmAnd yet I’m reading your post now. If you clean up your language, potty mouth, your posts will appear.
Comment by barfly
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Mr barfly, I have not used one word of profanity in my posts.
On the previuos thread I posted a comment 5 times regarding Somalia, the legacy of our retreat from that country and how it has been used by al-Qaeda (and other jihadist groups) as propaganda in their videos, tapes and websites ever since.
Today Somalia is a basketcase country with constant warfare between Taliban-like Islamist groups and various warlords.
While my comment is repeatdly deleted, the regular Thinkprogress posters spent an hour making boner jokes.
Free speech ?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:28 pmMy, your debating skills are marvelous! I don’t come to this blog because I care what people think of me, I come here to challenge idiots like you!
Comment by michael — April 27, 2007 @ 6:53 pm
And to quote yourself, “I am not here to debate YOU!” I am here to point out that you are a POS stalker that is deserving to be crushed underneath my 3inch spiked heel. Stalker garbage.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:30 pmLGF will ban you for profanity and making threats.
I guess thinkprogress bans people for making a point that they don’t like.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:31 pmUnfuckingreal. Just; Unfuckingreal real. How can anyone, ANYONE justify the crap coming out of his mouth?
(shaking head, deep sigh, barf on keyboard)
April 27th, 2007 at 7:34 pmThe only way that bringing them home is going to hurt them is if they have to go to Walter Reed.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:35 pmmichael: “I served in the U.S. Navy from 1965 – 1971. Who went AWOL? If you are going to say Bush, be prepared to prove it, idiot!”
If you really did serve then, you should know that according to miltary code in those days, being out of contact with command for over 30 days was classified as AWOL. There is no evidence that Bush ever contacted command personnel at his assignment in Alabama. There are no records of his service for a period of about 9 months. There are also questions about how someone who refused to take a physical, thereby giving up his pilot’s status, could have gotten an honorable discharge. So, don’t act like there are no questions about Bush’s service.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:38 pmAnd again:
Mr barfly, I have not used one word of profanity in my posts.
On the previuos thread I posted a comment 5 times regarding Somalia, the legacy of our retreat from that country and how it has been used by al-Qaeda (and other jihadist groups) as propaganda in their videos, tapes and websites ever since.
Today Somalia is a basketcase country with constant warfare between Taliban-like Islamist groups and various warlords.
While my comment is repeatdly deleted, the regular Thinkprogress posters spent an hour making boner jokes.
Free speech ?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:38 pm#93 Bruce
It is just my funny way of talking. All to prove that you were right to begin with. Generally the trolls will leave when confronted with a comment that doesn’t contain the words they know. Usually the words that barfly and Ringo are debating now.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:40 pmI guess that should be reassuring for stupid people. Because it makes absolutely no sense.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:40 pmBoo, hoo hoo, they deleted my comment. I’ve got the vapors. Whining trolls are so pathetic. If you don’t like it here, get the f*ck out!
April 27th, 2007 at 7:41 pmI’ll leave if you want.
I guess Thinkprogress is not really interested in debate.
Enjoy your wank session.
Adios
April 27th, 2007 at 7:44 pmI wonder what the kids over there are thinking about how the Iraq parliment is on vacation for the summer? Ha ha suckers, serves ‘em right for voting for the dipshit.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:46 pmNow it reappears @ 94.
I’m not really sure why the Thinkprogress censors were so afraid of a dissenting comment in the first place.
Have fun moonbats…I’m gone.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:48 pmLGF and “free” republic will ban you if you say ANYTHING bad about Bush.
YOU haven’t been banned here, have you?
By the way, on topic,
Bush is a TRAITOR to the USA, and an AWOL coward silver-spoon coxucker PUNK who is now a WAR CRIMINAL and MASS MURDERER.
Who couldn’t POSSIBLY “envision” ANYTHING about what these soldiers face.
The Democrats gave Bush ALL the money he wanted, and MORE for equipment, etc.
As far as his claims of “pork”, Bush’s request of 95 million sends a LARGE CHUNK for military projects that are NOT Iraq.
So, again, he is a LIAR who DOES NOT CARE ABOUT THE TROOPS.
All he cares about is saving his azz from WAR CRIMES TRIALS.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:48 pm“Mr barfly, I have not used one word of profanity in my posts.”
Mr. Barfly? They only call me that when I get stuck with the tab.
And we’d be taking your word that there was no profanity. Sorry, but after Iraq, we don’t take republicans at their word, anymore.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:50 pmHave fun moonbats…I’m gone.
Comment by Ringo
Ok, syncophant, see ‘ya tomorrow.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:51 pmOkay, I’ll ask nicely.
Please fu*king leave already.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmNow it reappears @ 94.
I’m not really sure why the Thinkprogress censors were so afraid of a dissenting comment in the first place.
Have fun moonbats…I’m gone.
Yeah, it was the “censors”, yeah, yeah, THAT’S IT!!!
He’ll be back.
He did the same thing on the Dana Perino thread earlier…
April 27th, 2007 at 7:53 pmmicheal “cuts and runs” again, when challenged on his military service claims, as always. So predictable.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:54 pmIt will be quite funny when a dem is elected pres. in ‘08, and takes over the war effort. Then, we can call republicans terrorist-loving appeasers if they say anything negative about the war effort. Or will they suddenly all become doves, like during Kosovo?
April 27th, 2007 at 7:57 pmTHERE AREN’T ANY TP CENSORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOUR POST GOT CAUGHT BY AN INANIMATE OBJECT CALLED A FILTER. YOU SAID SOMETHING YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH DISSENT. WE HERE YOUR TROLL GARBAGE ALL DAY LAONG EVERYDAY.
YOU AREN’T SPECIAL ENOUGH TO GET CENSORED.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:12 pmisn’t michael jake? micky is more gutterly than jake, but they are pretty much the same persona: threadjaking, non-sequiter spewing, strawman arguing nimrods.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:12 pmI’m confused. Isn’t Bush the politician who people the soldiers in harm’s way? And is the more dangerous place than Iraq Walter Reed Hospital???
April 27th, 2007 at 8:20 pmBubble Boy can’t see outside his bubble to realize it is he that is responsible for any discomfort and harm to our troops. It was his decision to lie us into this war and it is his decision to prolong the war for his own selfish reasons…which are to please the military industrial complex and oil companies.
There are few men in the world with as much blood on their hands was this Dubya character has…and the 28%ers make apologies for him…go figure. Go Bless the 72% of Americans against this evil empire of Dubya the drunken Chimpanzee.
April 27th, 2007 at 8:36 pmI’m gone.
Comment by Ringo
Promise to stay gone?
April 27th, 2007 at 8:43 pmheh
..Could you fly one?
Comment by Ringo — April 27, 2007 @ 5:49 pm
My bet is that he couldn’t fly one very well. His commander sure didn’t mind getting rid of him, even when it meant tolerating an AWOL pilot. Now why is that? Because Bush sucked maybe, huh? Because none of the other guys wanted to fly with him, huh?
April 27th, 2007 at 8:52 pmOMG he is a moron.
Comment by Bluedahlia #1
Blue,
To be more accurate…
…he’s the HEAD MORON…
…do you watch C-Span’s Washington Journal in the morning?
April 27th, 2007 at 8:53 pm“I thank GOD you’re the president.” And by the way, I’m a complete fu**ing moron and don’t have a clue about anything my right wing preacher don’t tell me is true, while he’s driving christ’s message deep into my bung-hole…
April 27th, 2007 at 8:57 pmBig Papa,
Sadly, or maybe not so sadly, I don’t watch TV at all. We don’t have cable, so even if I tuned in, I couldn’t “tune in”. We just think it is mostly all garbage. (Athough, I hear from people at school that there are some good programs on Discovery and History channels)
I do try and keep up with intersting things I read on the internet and then watching them if they are posted on the web. We get subscriptions from National Geographic and Popular Science and enjoy those. So I guess to answer your question, no. Sorry :) Did I miss anything interesting?
April 27th, 2007 at 9:06 pmthe paid detractors are running out of steam.
Thanks for playing, Michael.
Buh Bye now
April 27th, 2007 at 9:21 pmI wonder how much Hugo Chavez would charge us…
…to extraordinarily rendition…
….the Bush and Cheney cabal members…
…then send us back a bootleg video…
…of their “Saddamization”…
…with voices in the background yelling…
…Moqtada! Moqtada! Moqtada!
…talk about poetic JUSTICE…
April 27th, 2007 at 10:21 pmI would be pleased with a copy of that movie big papa..They would sell in the million’s I bet….Blessings
April 27th, 2007 at 10:35 pmWhat gets me is where he says”And in my judgment…” as
April 27th, 2007 at 11:15 pmif his judgment has ever been good .
…And Ringo was his name-o…
April 28th, 2007 at 12:08 am“micheal claimed tohave been in the Navy during Nam.
He also claims he had no MOS.
**eyes rolling**
the Navy changed from Mos toNEC AFTER Nam.
Comment by Wayne — April 27, 2007″
Are you suggesting that I am embellishing my service record like kerry?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:09 amBush is at risk of having to admit he was wrong and that he lied to the country.
Comment by chimpeach — April 27, 2007″
What did he lie about? Be specific and back it up with proof?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:11 amHis policies. His bellicosity. His stubbornness. His unwillingness to talk to our enemies. His name calling. His unwillingness to admit error. His willingness to lie. His willingness to abuse his power. His willingness to sacrifice even more young people to satisfy his own blood lust. His belief in his “god†directing him.
Comment by Marie — April 27, 2007″
What lies? Unwillingness to talk to our enemies? You bet! I know you traitors want to give OUR ENEMIES the benefit of the doubt, that’s why you are traitors and idiots!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:16 amThis has probably already been said, but — Oh my f*cking god.
Does Bush think even one second before he speaks?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:46 amI’m just envisioning what it would be like[...]
Just a second there.
Mr. President, sir, with all due respect: You are not very good at “the vision thing”.
Me-humbly-thinks it runs in the family. How to explain Iraq otherwise?
And in my judgment, that would put a kid in harm’s way, more so than he or she already is.
::sigh::
Mr. President, sir, you have showed very little in the way of good judgment. How to explain Iraq otherwise?
And do I need to remind you this soldier you are talking about is already in harm’s way because you put them there? Why talk about it as if they had been put in harm’s way by magic, a miracle, divine intervention?
It boggles the mind.
It really does.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:06 amGood one, chimpy. Fire the generals who tell you the truth, then accuse everyone else of playing politics. No one will catch on to that…
April 28th, 2007 at 1:43 amAre you suggesting that I am embellishing my service record like kerry?
Comment by michael
I am suggesting you do not know your classification code for you claimed military service. Something every soldier, marine, sailor, and flyboy knows. Look on your release papers.
You got release papers, right?
And you continue to avoid answering even now, pervert stalker and namejacker.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:07 amDD Form 214, your discharge papers and separation documents, Michael
April 28th, 2007 at 2:11 amActually, Kerry’s medal were determined by RAPEUBLICAN Navy Secretary John Lehman to be PROPERLY AWARDED.
TRAITOR Bush, on the other hand, was GIVEN a PURPLE HEART last week by a soldier that had EARNED “3″ of them.
Jesus is gonna lay SUCH A HAYMAKER on this “christian” that it will knock his azz clear to hell and his NEW MASTER
SATAN…
April 28th, 2007 at 4:00 amCalling him “commander in chief†ought to make that soldier feel better about as much as putting lipstick on a pig makes it easier to kiss.
Comment by mongo — April 27, 2007 @ 5:44 pm
Noone can say commander in chief anymore with a straight face. It comes up in conversations as such: “This war is stupid, and President Bush wants us to keep fighting it.”
“well he’s the commander in chief so we have to do what he says.”
And then everyone erupts into laughter.
And that’s not a joke.
April 28th, 2007 at 5:18 amI think soldiers in Iraq would take some comfort from the fact that although “politicians” are making “military” decisions, at least NOW SOME OF THE POLITICIANS MAKING THESE DECISIONS HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN COMBAT, unlike the decisions made for the last four years.
April 28th, 2007 at 6:16 amsorry, I’ve not read thru all of the comments, so this MAY be redundant, if so, I apologize.
IF bush really really served honestly in the Texas Air National Guard then why in the hell can’t we find any—-any record at all of it. I’ll tell you why, they couldn’t just delete the refusal to take a pee test and his running and hiding, they had to delete every single thing pertaining to this so call stint in the guard……..Some day…some how something is going to surface that will show this country that bush is the lily livered yellow bellied coward that we all know he is.
April 28th, 2007 at 9:56 am#130 What lies? Unwillingness to talk to our enemies? You bet! I know you traitors want to give OUR ENEMIES the benefit of the doubt, that’s why you are traitors and idiots!
Comment by michael — April 28, 2007 @ 12:16 am
But michael, so we are talking to you, so we can’t all be idiots and traitors.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:45 pmWhat lies? Unwillingness to talk to our enemies? You bet! I know you traitors want to give OUR ENEMIES the benefit of the doubt, that’s why you are traitors and idiots!
Comment by michael — April 28, 2007 @ 12:16 am
What enemies, shit for brains? The ones we created by invading and occupying their country? or the ones in the White House destroying our constitution and our way of life? Which enemy are you referring to? The war I know is between the Kurds and Sunnis and the Shiites. We are just there getting in there way, and fucking up their lives a little bit.
Go enlist, asswipe.
April 28th, 2007 at 6:18 pmbush had to IMAGINE being in war. Since he has never been to war because he went AWOL my guess is that he would be pissing his pants wanting us to get him home. bush has no credibility in speaking for our troops. Ditto to you cheney-rush-kristol-rice=etc-etc STFU
April 29th, 2007 at 12:33 pm