McCain’s New Title: Most Absent Senator In 110th Congress
McCain’s New Title: Most Absent Senator In 110th Congress
Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has risen to a new rank within the Senate: he has missed the most votes of any active Senator in the 110th Congress — second only to Sen. Tim Johnson (D-SD), who suffered a brain hemorrhage in December.
While other Presidential candidates have certainly missed votes while campaigning, none come close to McCain, who has not shown up to a single vote in the past two weeks, skipping 18 consecutive votes. He has now missed over 40 percent of roll-call votes since the 110th Congress began.
Repeatedly declaring the Iraq war as crucial to the success of his campaign, McCain has nevertheless “missed seven prominent votes on Iraq” and national security, including the Senate’s passage this week of funding for the troops in Iraq. Some of the key votes McCain has missed:
Conference Report: U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Care, Katrina Recovery, and Iraq Accountability Appropriations Act [4/26/07]
Motion to Invoke Cloture on U.S. Troop Readiness, Veterans’ Health, and Iraq Accountability Act [3/28/07]
Joint Resolution to revise U.S. policy on Iraq [3/15/07]
Resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that no action should be taken to undermine the safety of the Armed Forces of the United States or impact their ability to complete their assigned or future missions. [3/15/07]
Improving America’s Security Act of 2007 [3/13/07]
A bill to express the sense of Congress on Iraq [2/17/07]
McCain also skipped General David Petraeus’s briefing on Iraq to instead campaign in New Hampshire.
While McCain did not have time to vote against the withdrawal plan yesterday, he did find time to release a harsh statement attacking the Senators who did vote to begin redeployment. “We need to send a bill to the President that he can sign, and we need to do it as soon as possible,” he said. “Our troops in the field are waiting on our action.”
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Who wins the title of most absent from reality?
Same guy?
April 28th, 2007 at 10:46 amMcJowls : the hardest working man in show business (He’s now a Beach Boy — “Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran!”)
April 28th, 2007 at 10:52 amNow wait, you had no problem with Kerry being absent when he was running for POTUS.
April 28th, 2007 at 10:52 amMcCain may have missed the Senate but the Senate hasn’t missed McCain. Leave him alone, we don’t need him to vote. In fact there are 40 or so others that could miss without being missed.
April 28th, 2007 at 10:56 amJake,
You missed your Geritol again. Nobody cares if McCain votes or not. The point is that the nobody includes McCain himself. The only problem with an open mind is that you have to close it to think. That applies to your mouth as well.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:01 amIf any important vote would have been different with McCain there, let me know.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:02 amI can’t wait for Dick Cheney not to recognize him.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:04 amWhen he was in uniform didn’t they call this kind of behavior being AWOL?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:07 amAnybody ever see this ethical Republican display??
http://www.crooksandliars.com/Media/Play/16662/1/close
April 28th, 2007 at 11:07 amActually, I think they called him a PRISONER OF WAR went he went missing in Vietnam.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:11 amGiven his positions, I’d just as soon see McCain completely stop voting. However, I was horrified by the excuse he gave for not voting on the supplemental: “My vote won’t count.” Great way to encourage people to become involved in the political process, nice way to scuttle the “one vote can make a difference” approach. Sheesh.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:12 amI think we’ll find that McCain will never show up to vote on any Iraq issue, as long as he’s in the presidential race.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:16 amIf any important vote would have been different with McCain there, let me know.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:02 am
Jake, why would anybody here care if McCain missed a vote. Why don’t you stop and think before you type. And david didn’t say McCain was AWOL from the military. He said he was AWOL from voting.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:17 amI hate to say it but Jake would make a better President than McCain! However I’m kidding in a way since Jake is too old. Now if we were to list the current Dems and Repubs running and had to vote today are best hope would be Mike Gravel but even he has issues that make him a train wreck! Obama appears to be a machine and I’ll bet that that little guy from Men in Black is running him!
The only way McCain could win is if the FIX is still in and that would not surprise me.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:18 amAnd david didn’t say McCain was AWOL from the military. He said he was AWOL from voting.
Comment by Shane
Jake is losing whatever he has left of what little he had.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:21 amIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” has a question about my comment above or doesn’t understand what “When he was IN UNIFORM didn’t they call this kind of behavior being AWOL?” let me know.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:22 amIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†has a question about my comment above or doesn’t understand what “When he was IN UNIFORM didn’t they call this kind of behavior being AWOL?†let me know.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:22 am
Comical Genius! Too funny! ROFLMMFAO
April 28th, 2007 at 11:25 amCAN WE TRY TO IGNORE THE JAKE TROLL TODAY? :-)
April 28th, 2007 at 11:26 amJake thinks he’s important. How cute.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:26 amI doubt that McCain gets the nomination against either Rudy or Fred Thompson (if he announces at the upcoming Lincoln Club dinner), but I can’t blame him for trying. If crucial votes were closer, especially tied where Cheney’s participation would have been needed, then I would be blaming McCain. In fact, that was the official Democratic defense to Kerry missing Senate votes too. It’s just kinda funny to see the roles reversed now. No surpise you guys can’t be consistent.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:27 amToo bad TP doesn’t consider Kucinich “important” or “cute” enough (although his wife could be younger than his grand daughter) to have even ONE thread on Cheney’s impeachment ; )
April 28th, 2007 at 11:31 amMcCain is a brain damaged fool. Being a prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years is a liability not a benefit. Why is being a prisoner of war for five years somehow make you more qualified to be the Pres. ?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:32 amCAN WE TRY TO IGNORE THE JAKE TROLL TODAY? :-)
Comment by Zooey — April 28, 2007 @ 11:26 am
Then he explains the Republican candidates to us. Like we can’t figure it out without him. As if HE is going to convince anybody to turn Republican. Yeah, we want to be in HIS peer group.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:32 am‘However, I was horrified by the excuse he gave for not voting on the supplemental: “My vote won’t count.â€
Comment by Georgette Orwell — April 28, 2007 @ 11:12 am”
I like your moniker.
Sounds like a great reason NOT to vote for McCain either - “your vote won’t count”. LOL
The Repugs really don’t have one good horse in the race. Lots of jackasses and mules though…
April 28th, 2007 at 11:33 amCAN WE TRY TO IGNORE THE JAKE TROLL TODAY? :-)
Comment by Zooey
Jake who??
April 28th, 2007 at 11:35 amMcCain must resign from the Senate, because he is not doing his job. He is campaigning for president on taxpayers time and money. He is a fool.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:35 amMcCain is a brain damaged fool. Being a prisoner of war in Vietnam for five years is a liability not a benefit. Why is being a prisoner of war for five years somehow make you more qualified to be the Pres. ?
Comment by buzzbomb — April 28, 2007 @ 11:32 am
Because so few Republicans have served they have to make the most of the one that did. Although lately he’s been acting like his dementia is controlling him.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:35 amI’d vote for the “brain damaged fool” rather than any of the current Democrats running. We need to appoint more Strict Constructionists until Roe v. Wade is overturned.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:37 amFunny that a couple years ago most of us would have throught that if we had to have a Republican candidate that McCain would be the one.
Sad how much he’s changed in that time from a man who was respected on both sides of the fence to one who is now the punchline to a lot of jokes.
Makes you wonder what happens to people who want the ‘power of authority’ too much…
April 28th, 2007 at 11:38 amLOL — what was your side’s response to call for Kerry to resign from the Senate, because he was not doing his job before 2004? He was campaigning for president on taxpayers’ time and money too, fool.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:38 amInteresting how desperate the resident little boy is for attention, that when threatened with being ignored, he starts pushing the hot buttons he knows will garner him the spotlight.
The thread is about McCain, not abortion.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:40 amThe Repugs really don’t have one good horse in the race. Lots of jackasses and mules though…
Comment by unbelievable
Unfortunately most of the Democratic “frontrunners” fit those categories as well. It is still really early though. I still have hope.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:40 amWe need to appoint more Strict Constructionists until Roe v. Wade is overturned.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:37 am
So why do you support abortion then Jake?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:40 amI don’t see McCains attendance in DC for votes as an issue. What is an issue about McCain is that he is a LIAR!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:43 amFor the record, I do not support abortion, if anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss MC CAINS position too.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:44 amWe need to appoint more Strict Constructionists until Roe v. Wade is overturned.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:37 am
Yet Jake supports the concept of imaginary powers being granted to the president, via the unitary executive dodge they’ve been touting. I guess he only likes strict constructionism when it serves his political ends.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:44 amFor instance, MC CAIN voted for the the Partial Birth Abortion ban (but then, so did Harry Reid ; )
April 28th, 2007 at 11:44 am“John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that courts should not be in the business of legislating from the bench, Constitutional balance would be restored by the reversal of Roe v. Wade, returning the abortion question to the individual states. The difficult issue of abortion should not be decided by judicial fiat.
However, the reversal of Roe v. Wade represents only one step in the long path toward ending abortion. Once the question is returned to the states, the fight for life will be one of courage and compassion - the courage of a pregnant mother to bring her child into the world and the compassion of civil society to meet her needs and those of her newborn baby. The pro-life movement has done tremendous work in building and reinforcing the infrastructure of civil society by strengthening faith-based, community, and neighborhood organizations that provide critical services to pregnant mothers in need. This work must continue and government must find new ways to empower and strengthen these armies of compassion. These important groups can help build the consensus necessary to end abortion at the state level. As John McCain has publicly noted, “At its core, abortion is a human tragedy. To effect meaningful change, we must engage the debate at a human level.”
http://www.johnmccain.com/ Informing/ Issues/ 95b18512-d5b6-456e-90a2-12028d71df58.htm
April 28th, 2007 at 11:47 amwhat was your side’s response to call for Kerry to resign from the Senate, because he was not doing his job before 2004? He was campaigning for president on taxpayers’ time and money too, fool.
Comment by Jake
If Jake had anything of substance he would have posted it. He didn’t, so he doesn’t. Put up Kerry’s roll call votes if you think there’s meat on that bone, you doddering intellectual wreck!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:47 am“It is still really early though. I still have hope.
Comment by Wayne — April 28, 2007 @ 11:40 am”
I read a great article in a UK ‘paper’ about how none of the top-notch Democratic campaign strategists have joined any of the current candidates campaigns because they are likely waiting for Gore to run. If that happened, a lot of people would be relieved from the threat of a Hilary Clinton nomination.
Even though he isn’t in the race, Gore currently is just a point or two behind Obama in the polls for the Democratic favorite, and a bit ahead of John Edwards. Clinton is in the top spot.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:47 amJake who??
Comment by Wayne
:-)
Good morning, Wayne.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:48 amRather than counting the votes McJowl has missed or the number of days he’s been absent from the Senate, I’m waiting for him to reinvent the Straight Talk Express and call it what it really is. The Bullshit Express.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:48 amJake is known to assume more positions then a 10 grand a night escort.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:49 amSee how Jake responds when someone asks people to ignore him?
He escalates by hijacking the thread completely with his abortion shit.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:49 am(cont.)
Promoting Adoption
In 1993, John McCain and his wife, Cindy, adopted a little girl with a cleft palate from Mother Teresa’s orphanage in Bangladesh. Bridget, now in high school, has been a blessing to the McCain family and helped make adoption advocacy a personal issue for the Senator.
The McCain family experience is not unique; millions of families have had their lives transformed by the adoption of a child. As president, motivated by his personal experience, John McCain will seek ways to promote adoption as a first option for women struggling with a crisis pregnancy. In the past, he cosponsored legislation to prohibit discrimination against families with adopted children, to provide adoption education, and to permit tax deductions for qualified adoption expenses, as well as to remove barriers to interracial and inter-ethnic adoptions.
Protecting Marriage
As president, John McCain would nominate judges who understand that the role of the Court is not to subvert the rights of the people by legislating from the bench. Critical to Constitutional balance is ensuring that, where state and local governments do act to preserve the traditional family, the Courts must not overstep their authority and thwart the Constitutional right of the people to decide this question.
The family represents the foundation of Western Civilization and civil society and John McCain believes the institution of marriage is a union between one man and one woman. It is only this definition that sufficiently recognizes the vital and unique role played by mothers and fathers in the raising of children, and the role of the family in shaping, stabilizing, and strengthening communities and our nation.
As with most issues vital to the preservation and health of civil society, the basic responsibility for preserving and strengthening the family should reside at the level of government closest to the people. In their wisdom, the Founding Fathers reserved for the States the authority and responsibility to protect and strengthen the vital institutions of our civil society. They did so to ensure that the voices of America’s families could not be ignored by an indifferent national government or suffocated through filibusters and clever legislative maneuvering in Congress.
Addressing the Moral Concerns of Advanced Technology
Stem cell research offers tremendous hope for those suffering from a variety of deadly diseases - hope for both cures and life-extending treatments. However, the compassion to relieve suffering and to cure deadly disease cannot erode moral and ethical principles.
For this reason, John McCain opposes the intentional creation of human embryos for research purposes. To that end, Senator McCain voted to ban the practice of “fetal farming,” making it a federal crime for researchers to use cells or fetal tissue from an embryo created for research purposes. Furthermore, he voted to ban attempts to use or obtain human cells gestated in animals. Finally, John McCain strongly opposes human cloning and voted to ban the practice, and any related experimentation, under federal law.
As president, John McCain will strongly support funding for promising research programs, including amniotic fluid and adult stem cell research and other types of scientific study that do not involve the use of human embryos.
Where federal funds are used for stem cell research, Senator McCain believes clear lines should be drawn that reflect a refusal to sacrifice moral values and ethical principles for the sake of scientific progress, and that any such research should be subject to strict federal guidelines.
Protecting Children from Internet Pornography
John McCain believes the Internet offers tremendous promise in terms of freedom of expression, information sharing, and the spread of knowledge and commerce. It represents the greatest innovation of the modern era in terms of the democratization of free speech and access to information. From human rights groups in China to bloggers here in the United States, the Internet has opened a global dialogue that has propelled the world into an exciting new century of connectivity and communication.
However, there is a darker side to the Internet. Along with the access and anonymity of the Internet have come those who would use it to peddle child pornography and other sexually explicit material and to prey upon children.
John McCain has been a leader in pushing legislation through Congress that requires all schools and libraries receiving federal subsidies for Internet connectivity to utilize technology to restrict access to sexually explicit material by children using such computers. While the first line of defense for children will always be strong and involved parents, when they send their child to school or drop their child off at the library, parents have the right to feel safe that someone is going to be looking out for their children.
Protecting Children from Online Predators
America’s most precious asset is its children. The innocence of childhood provides hope for the future and refreshes and restores the ideals of this great country. However, there are those who prey upon this innocence and the Internet offers these predators unprecedented, often anonymous, access to children. John McCain has taken a hard line against pedophiles that would use the Internet to prey upon children by proposing the first-of-its-kind national online registry for persons who have been convicted of sex crimes against children. Senator McCain’s legislation requires that sex offenders register all online accounts in a national database that can be used by law enforcement to investigate crimes against children. If these predators fail to register they would be sent to prison for ten years. The legislation also makes use of the Internet an “aggravating factor” in sex crimes against children, adding an additional ten years to any conviction. It is the responsibility of government to do all that can be done to protect children from predators who lurk on the Internet.
The Greatest Honor is to Serve the Cause of Human Dignity
There is no greater nobility than to sacrifice for a great cause and no cause greater than protection of human dignity. Decency, human compassion, self-sacrifice and the defense of innocent life are at the core of John McCain’s value system and will be the guiding principles of a McCain Presidency.
“To sacrifice for a cause greater than yourself, and to sacrifice your life to the eminence of that cause, is the noblest activity of all.”
John McCain is the son and grandson of military officers. He served as a Navy pilot, honored to live in the company of heroes as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, and is a beloved husband and father. Senator McCain has enjoyed the quiet blessings found in serving others.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:50 amAnyone NOT on the “Ignore List” who has conveniently forgotten Kerry missed just as many Senate votes, let me know.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:51 am#40. What I absolutely do not understand is how Hillary can be at the top of the pack. I live in the suburbs of Washington DC where I am, luckily, surrounded by alot of like-minded liberals yet I do not know a single one who supports Hillary or her campaign. Not one. I’m not denying the information you presented. I’m just completely baffled how she can be in the lead. After voting a straight democratic ticket in every election every 2 years since my first vote in 1972, if we are foolish enough to give the nomination to Hillary, the 2008 election will be the first one I have ever refused to participate in.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:51 amJake, are you still playing this tired game?
For TP readers: Jake’s ignore list is just his primadonna act.
He responds to those on his “list,†making it just another form of conservative hypocrisy. Here’s an example, from a short while ago. Notice how he answers my question, while seemingly not to:
The FIRST job of the government is to PROTECT the people. Jake
Um, I thought it was to uphold the Constitution? Or has that changed since 9/11?
Comment by barfly — April 13, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
For the record, if all the People are killed by terrorists with suitcase nukes, it matters no longer to uphold the Constitution.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
As you readers can see, the little dear is just too egotistical to to keep his fat mouth shut.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:52 amI’m trying to ignore Jake, but when he puts up religious right propaganda, I am compelled to counter it, because it otherwise looks like we cannot.
The Christian god is PRO-ABORTION:
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.†Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion�
Numbers 5:11-21 The description of a bizarre, brutal and abusive ritual to be performed on a wife SUSPECTED of adultery. This is considered to be an induced abortion to rid a woman of another man’s child.
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.†In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped upâ€. Once again this god kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped openâ€. And the Christians have the audacity to say god is pro-life. How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:52 amOff topic, but more important than Jake’s drivel:
RUCerious is home from the hospital and getting better everyday. He had a few complications, but his cancer is gone, and his spirits are good.
Woo Hooo!!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 amJohn McCain … served as a Navy pilot, honored to live in the company of heroes as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, and is a beloved husband and father. Senator McCain has enjoyed the quiet blessings found in serving others.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:50 am
Too bad none of the same cant be said for the man-child masquerading as a leader in the White House.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 amI posted this about McCain on past Friday in reference to him not voting on Thursday for the Iraq funding:
Where were Sen. John McCain and Sen. Lindsey Graham yesterday?
Friday 27th of April 2007
by Jay Randal
The vote for continued funding of the Iraq occupation, with timetable to start removing some combat troops, occurred yesterday, but Sen. McCain and Sen. Graham did not even bother to show up to vote on the funding.
John McCain preferred to do personal campaigning for president in South Carolina, with his pal Lindsey Graham, so they believe their jobs in the US Congress are not important, so they should resign from Senate.
It’s rather obvious that they would have voted to kill the funding bill, joining most members of the GOPer party in blindly voting nay, but since their creepy trip to Baghdad to buy cheap rugs they do their own thing.
Sen. McCain is so confident that he will be handed the GOP nomination for president, on silver platter, that he can do whatever pleases himself and piss on entire electorate in the process, but he lives in dream world.
Voters want politicians to do their jobs, so bye John and Lindsey!
(Jay Randal, political activist and writer in Georgia, USA.)
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 amGreat new’s, just got an e-mail from RUCerious, he had a little set back but is now home and improving fast..Expect’s to be posting again soon..Send good wishes and great thought’s his way…Blessings all, many extra Blessings to RU..
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 amAnyone NOT on the “Ignore List†who has conveniently forgotten Kerry missed just as many Senate votes, let me know.
Comment by Jake —
And the poor dear can’t even tell when he’s been exposed.
Notice that Jake never posted Kerry’s voting record. Why is that Jake?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:56 amComment by unbelievable — April 28, 2007 @ 11:52 am
I agree it is difficult to resist debating The Stupid Side of the Force!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:57 amI doubt that McCain gets the nomination against either Rudy or Fred Thompson (if he announces at the upcoming Lincoln Club dinner), but I can’t blame him for trying. If crucial votes were closer, especially tied where Cheney’s participation would have been needed, then I would be blaming McCain. In fact, that was the official Democratic defense to Kerry missing Senate votes too. It’s just kinda funny to see the roles reversed now. No surpise you guys can’t be consistent.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:27 am
Apparently you’re equally inconsistent Jake. You obviously had a problem with Kerry when he missed votes but you give McCain a pass now. So your hypcrisy is showing too. And how do you suppose McCain knows whether a vote is going to be close before it is taken? I’ve heard of people saying they didn’t vote in an election and justify it by the final tally… it’s ludicrous thinking whether you’re a Dem or Rep.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:58 amIf anyone else has a question about the “Ignore List” (which is only for those who refuse to return the Common Courtesy of answering questions in a civil manner) or whether God is PRO-ABORTION, please let me know.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:59 amGet back soon R.U., we miss you.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:59 amClinton is in the top spot.
Comment by unbelievable
Yeah, and I completely despise her voting record. She should be running as she votes, as a Republican. =P
Good morning, Wayne.
Comment by Zooey
Hey Zooey.
BTW, anyone going to their local impeachment rally today?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:00 pmI have to work, so can’t make the one at Zilker Park here in Austin.
Can’t play hookey because my manager already said she is going LOL
Most the people here at theoffice, that are not working today, are going……
John McCain … served as a Navy pilot, honored to live in the company of heroes as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, and is a beloved husband and father. Senator McCain has enjoyed the quiet blessings found in serving others.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:50 am
April 28th, 2007 at 12:01 pmThat was all true at one time Jake but now McCain has become a LIAR and a propagandist. He is so deceptive that he even has you fooled Jake.
RUCerious is home from the hospital and getting better everyday. He had a few complications, but his cancer is gone, and his spirits are good.
Woo Hooo!!
Comment by Zooey
That is good news indeed.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:01 pmvery good news **cheer**
God is PRO ABORTION Jake!!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:02 pmMcCain - Guiliani - Romney, et al. Do you really think any one of these have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected? Personally, I hope McCain or Guiliani get the nomination as it would be high entertainment.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:02 pm“What I absolutely do not understand is how Hillary can be at the top of the pack.”
Me neither. I considered that the media was lying to us again, but then it’s in other independent sources with journalistic integrity, and I’m stumped same as you.
“I live in the suburbs of Washington DC where I am, luckily, surrounded by alot of like-minded liberals yet I do not know a single one who supports Hillary or her campaign. Not one.”
None of my liberal friends supoprt her either, and very few people who post here do either. I completely agree with you that reality doesn’t fit experience.
I could guess, but nothing sounds reasonable.
“I’m not denying the information you presented. I’m just completely baffled how she can be in the lead.”
I got it from the UK Telegraph article… I’d post the link, but every time I post links, my posts get eaten by the spam filter. It was on the Buzz Flash website.
“After voting a straight democratic ticket in every election every 2 years since my first vote in 1972, if we are foolish enough to give the nomination to Hillary, the 2008 election will be the first one I have ever refused to participate in.
Comment by Mike Hunt — April 28, 2007 @ 11:51 am”
As a woman, who feels we still have a long way to go in terms of equality in this country, I’d love to see someone other than a rich white man be elected to that office. I just don’t think Hillary Clinton is the right person. I hate that I feel this way, but I won’t vote for her just because she is a woman either.
You could always write in someone else :)
April 28th, 2007 at 12:02 pmHow and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
Because Pat Robertson and Ralph Reed and James Dobson say thats what “god” said, so the faithful sheeple pile on to the lies.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:05 pmIn regards to Sen. John Kerry: After he was nominated to be the Democratic contender for president in 2004, then he started missing votes while campaigning. Sen. John McCain has NOT been nominated to be the GOP cantender, because the convention does not occur till summer of next year. McCain is failing to do his job in the Senate, so therefore he should resign from the Senate and devote himself full time to campaigning on his time and money. If any Democratic candidate does this, then I will call for them to resign as well. If Sen. Kerry himself misses key votes this year, then I will call for him to resign. Their job is to be in DC to vote on bills and not goof off.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:06 pmIf anyone else has a question about the “Ignore List†(which is only for those who refuse to return the Common Courtesy of answering questions in a civil manner) or whether God is PRO-ABORTION, please let me know.
Comment by Jake
Jake, are you still playing this tired game?
For TP readers: Jake’s ignore list is just his primadonna act.
He responds to those on his “list,†making it just another form of conservative hypocrisy. Here’s an example, from a short while ago. Notice how he answers my question, while seemingly not to:
The FIRST job of the government is to PROTECT the people. Jake
Um, I thought it was to uphold the Constitution? Or has that changed since 9/11?
Comment by barfly — April 13, 2007 @ 4:22 pm
For the record, if all the People are killed by terrorists with suitcase nukes, it matters no longer to uphold the Constitution.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
As you readers can see, the little dear is just too egotistical to to keep his fat mouth shut.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:06 pm“RUCerious is home from the hospital and getting better everyday.
Comment by Zooey — April 28, 2007 @ 11:54 am”
Please tell him we are thinking of him, and it’s no way nearly as funny around here without his quips.
I didn’t know he had cancer. I hate that word. Thanks for the good news.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:07 pmYou could always write in someone else :)
Comment by unbelievable
Draft Gore 2008!!! =D
April 28th, 2007 at 12:08 pm“I agree it is difficult to resist debating The Stupid Side of the Force!
Comment by Saywho — April 28, 2007 @ 11:57 am”
I don’t want to debate him - just point out the gaping holes in his self-serving propaganda so he can’t claim that we couldn’t counter his nonsense, and hopefully, maybe he’ll just shut up. :D
April 28th, 2007 at 12:09 pmThis country will be in continued trouble with Hillary at the Helm. And God help us if McJowls, Romney or Fooliani become prez. Obomba is a big dissapointment also. I have never felt so disgusted and hopeless with all the candidates.
Where’s Sen. Feingold when you need him the most?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:10 pm“whether God is PRO-ABORTION, please let me know.
Comment by Jake — April 28, 2007 @ 11:59 am”
I was civil, you just ignore me because you cannot debate me and win. It’s a fact that Atheists know the Bible better than most so-called Christians. After all, having read it is partly why we are Atheists.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:12 pmI just don’t think Hillary Clinton is the right person. I hate that I feel this way, but I won’t vote for her just because she is a woman either.
You could always write in someone else :)
Comment by unbelievable — April 28, 2007 @ 12:02 pm
We learned that Bush 41 sucked so then after 2 Clinton terms Bush 43 gets “elected” for 2 terms and that should be enough of the Bush family for 10,000 years to come.
Clinton served his terms but that is enough of the Clinton lineage!
I have a great idea; let’s elect someone different that deserves a chance that has not had a political (carpet bagger) background! Let’s elect someone that is law abiding and smart!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:13 pmGOD is in FACT PRO ABORTION
April 28th, 2007 at 12:16 pmDo not forget that President Bush did nothing but campaign for his re-election in 2004. One of the reasons I believe that presidents should serve one term only. We the taxpayers should not pay for someone to campaign at our expense.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:17 pmLet’s elect someone that is law abiding and smart!
Comment by Saywho
That would be a complete 180 degrees from the current presidency for sure.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:17 pmMcCain is far more entertaining on the road than he would be if he showed up in the Senate. No one has to swiftboat the old Maverick; he’s doing a great job sinking his own boat every time he opens his mouth.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:17 pm“Yeah, and I completely despise her voting record. She should be running as she votes, as a Republican. =P”
Agreed - she is Lieberman Lite.
“BTW, anyone going to their local impeachment rally today?”
Damn - I forgot. This week has been insane with preparing for and attending my Student Organization State Competition.
“Most the people here at theoffice, that are not working today, are going……
Comment by Wayne — April 28, 2007 @ 12:00 pm”
Cool… I read that Congress is avoiding Impeachment because they don’t think that’s why we elected them in November. They thought the change in power was just about the Iraq war. Hopefully these rallies will show them that it was about BOTH.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:18 pmunbelievable
Well put.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:20 pmCan’t play hookey because my manager already said she is going LOL
Most the people here at theoffice, that are not working today, are going……
Comment by Wayne
Too bad. :(
I can’t find any evidence of local rallies — Surprise! I hope that anyone who attends one will post news on TP.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:20 pm“How and the hell is it that Christians can read passages where God allows pregnant women to be murdered, yet still claim abortion is wrong?
Comment by Ben Dover — April 28, 2007 @ 12:05 pm”
I’m guessing the same way they can learn about Biology in high school and still refuse to accept evolution? Denial?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:20 pmRUcerious
April 28th, 2007 at 12:22 pmIf you are reading this — I’m glad to hear good news.
Come back soon.
Jay Randal - excellent post on Kerry!
“Draft Gore 2008!!! =D
Comment by Wayne — April 28, 2007 @ 12:08 pm”
Works for me. We should start our own campaign of that if Hillary Clinton gets the nomination :)
April 28th, 2007 at 12:23 pmI can’t find any evidence of local rallies — Surprise! I hope that anyone who attends one will post news on TP.
Comment by Zooey
take a look at:
April 28th, 2007 at 12:26 pmhttp://www.communitywalk.com/a28
“Let’s elect someone that is law abiding and smart!
Comment by Saywho — April 28, 2007 @ 12:13 pm”
I bet Thomas Jefferson and George Washington could not get elected in modern times, because neither was Christian, and both, obviously, upheld the Constitution.
Who do you suggest?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:27 pmHey Jake,
SUCK IT!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:27 pmJust for the record: Democrat members of the Congress were able to vote on the funding bill and participate in a debate that evening in South Carolina. Sen. McCain had NO excuse to not vote on the funding bill. He could have voted, then done a campaign event in the evening, but no he prefered to be a doddering fool.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:27 pmThank you unbelievable.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:28 pm“Well put.
Comment by Bruce Gorton — April 28, 2007 @ 12:20 pm”
Thanks… Haven’t seen you as much lately. Have missed your posts. Hope you’re doing well.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:30 pmJake,
You should start a Not, not on my list, list. it would be easier to keep track of, and it would get shorter over time - all you’d have to do is scratch names off.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:32 pmPeople! People! God in fact speaks to me and me alone. He told me that George Bush is in fact not even on Gods IM list. God insisted to me that George Bush lied when he mentioned that God tells him what to do; then out of the clear blue God told me that he is 100% PRO ABORTION. He said, “(name withheld) I am PRO ABORTION and you can tell Jake that he can blow me!” So, don’t call me a nut just because you’re jealous that God and I do brunch every now and again. Don’t get mad when God tells me things that he doesn’t tell you. He is not being unfair he simply doesn’t like you!
April 28th, 2007 at 12:33 pm“Thank you unbelievable.
Comment by Jay Randal — April 28, 2007 @ 12:28 pm”
Your welcome. I really enjoyed it. PLUS it was the end of Jake… :D
Started your garden yet?
I put mine in pots, so I can move them to adjust for weather and scorching heat in July and August. I wanna see if that’s more sustainable than a traditional garden, because I have a feeling that growing your own food could become necessary at some point…
April 28th, 2007 at 12:36 pm“He is not being unfair he simply doesn’t like you!
Comment by Saywho — April 28, 2007 @ 12:33 pm”
That is priceless! LOL
April 28th, 2007 at 12:37 pmNotice that Jake has gone silent on McCain later in this thread. GOP is trying to spin McCain out of the hole he dug for himself, but it’s too late. McCain committed political suicide over the funding bill, so just bury his corpse and find another GOPer to replace him.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:40 pmWho do you suggest?
Comment by unbelievable — April 28, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Not to toot my own horn but I would be willing to serve the people. I’m smart and honest. I happen to be personable and thoughtful. I respect the constitution and realize that industrialization is only a little blip in human history. I believe in living by example and despise lies!
Naturally you will not elect me however there are no stand-out choices running at this point that I can see.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:41 pmMcCain is insane.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:46 pmIf you all want someone honest and unwavering vote for and support Kucenich, I am…..Blessings
Jake, go cheney yourself..
April 28th, 2007 at 12:47 pmunbelievable > the extremely bad weather this April in Georgia has delayed my vegetable gardening, but proceeding with it now a tad late.
The horrible freeze in early April, followed by the wicked wind storm, damaged my fruit trees and blueberry crop too. Blackberries and Raspberries delayed flowering so they are OK. If my vegetable plants had been in the ground, then I would have lost all of it. Georgia peach crop was severely effected this year and 2/3 of the harvest destroyed on the trees by freeze and wind.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:47 pmhttp://projects.washingtonpost.com/ congress/ 110/ senate/ vote-missers/
Here is a list of all of them and their percentages.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:48 pmJake are you inferring that now McCain is the ‘Independent’ party choice?
Seems to me that McCain might also be in violation of the Hatch act if he’s out photo-opping (fecking off) when he should have been working?
April 28th, 2007 at 12:50 pmStarted your garden yet?
I put mine in pots,
Comment by unbelievable
Unbelievable,that won’t work long term.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:55 pmYour veggies and their roots need the earth.
You’re probably safe to transplant in a week or so.
Thing(
s) Jake obsesses over;Clenis (aka Con-envy)
Things Jake clearly overlooks.
April 28th, 2007 at 12:58 pmGOP;
Corruption.
Prositution
Ho-ism (Rhiza Wolfowitz)
Crony-ism (Gannon, Foley)
Lack of ethics (see above article)
Lack of fiscality
Lack of oversight
Lack of morals
Jake, also you are misleading people with your Kerry bleating.
McCAIN has missed more than ANY other Senator (Republican or Democrat) during the 110th congress.
I can see it now, if elected (he won’t be) this guy would surely beat Dubyas record of vacations. Sounds like your kinda guy Jake.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:03 pmMOST ABSENT SENATOR: Are they referring to his physical presence?? Or to his mental acuity? I’d say both.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:09 pmDubya has already been on vacation (physically) for over one year of his presidency; as for his ‘mental vacation’, that’s becoming painfully obvious for everyone to see. Reading “Bush on the Couch” provided incredible insight into this very sadistic mental disorder of his - which, BTW, has been manifesting itself since his college days. Both his parents totally ignored it, of course, because they had no time to coddle, care for, or nurture him - ergo…..his demeanor and his sick threats to the american people and congress…..it’s sad to realize that someone with a mental disorder so profound is still attemtping to run this country; albeit from a “lameduck” perspective, but, nevertheless, he’s bullying and engaging in a pissing contest with the people who pay his salary.
Like Cheryl Crow said to RoveReich recently: “you work for us, dude!”.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:12 pmAnd while the bullying continues to feed his fractured ego, more of our military die….as well as innocent iraqis!
April 28th, 2007 at 1:13 pmSo, the Jake-off is back today, eh? Yesterday, he was Patrick1….the day before he was Frank Matthews….and Firehead when his multiple personality disorder is not satisfying enough. Ignore this fool and he slimes away.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIf people want a “Bush redux”, then vote for McInsane…..and his cutsey, disgusting, and immature song lyrics. There’s no fool like an old fool and McInsane, the Perennial Flip-flopper, is looking mighty ancient these days.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:16 pmI hear the impeachment rallies nation-wise are really gathering steam. By the end of next month, with about a dozen new scandals (HookerGate is just getting off the ground and will impale many GOPigs), the people calling for impeachment will reach a fever pitch.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:17 pmLet the Straight-talk express try to spin this one.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:21 pmpoor johnny, like a typical waahhhpublican, living in the past. he seems to think the “do nothing” 109th congress is still in power. must make the people of his home state feel real proud that they only have the representation of one senator on congress while the rest of the states have two
April 28th, 2007 at 1:28 pmthe student newspaper at asu totally scooped this story 2 weeks ago. huzzah.
http://www.statepress.com/issues/2007/04/12/news/700784
April 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pmre#21 Jake
Too bad TP doesn’t consider Kucinich “important†or “cute†enough to have even ONE thread on Cheney’s impeachment.
Comment by Jake
Jake, you usually deserved to be ignored, but I will give you your credit this time, for pointing out that Democrats are just as HYPOCRITICAL as Republicans.
Any elected official be they Democrat or Republican who does NOT think that LYING to the Congress and the people to go to convince them to start a war of aggression, is NOT an impeachable offence, does NOT deserve to be an elected offficial.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:03 pmI hear the impeachment rallies nation-wise are really gathering steam. By the end of next month, with about a dozen new scandals (HookerGate is just getting off the ground and will impale many GOPigs), the people calling for impeachment will reach a fever pitch.
Comment by original veritas
There are rallies all over today
April 28th, 2007 at 2:08 pmcheck http://www.a28.org/ and clickto enlarge the map, mouseover the dot closest to you to see the rally info for that area, the map is pretty well filled for most of the nation
#84 - Wayne
Thank, but still no go. I’ll keep my eyes open. :)
April 28th, 2007 at 2:13 pmOff topic, but more important than Jake’s drivel:
RUCerious is home from the hospital and getting better everyday. He had a few complications, but his cancer is gone, and his spirits are good.
Woo Hooo!!
Comment by Zooey — April 28, 2007 @ 11:54 am
Great news. Thanks for sharing.
OT, What’s a jake?
April 28th, 2007 at 3:02 pmMcCain became insane when Dubya kissed his cheek.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pmDear Satyam - I realize the purpose of this site is first and foremost the promotion of ALL things Progressive. Which subject heading would i find coverage on the capture of 170+ Al Queda members in Saudi Arabia? You know….GOOD news in the WAR on Terror.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:57 pmAz voters getting ripped off. McCain flying all around and for what? Who pays? He’s supposed to be a Senator not senile but the more press he gets it is getting harder to say he’s a Senator. How does he justify his salary and what could possibly be his excuse for missing so many vote calls? Talk about waste in government, sometimes that refers to people too.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:13 pmAnd what is all this crap about not liking Hillary…and by other women…most with closed minds previously made up for some “one” reason or “two”. All of the Democratic candidates are great by comparison to what we have in office now. I still don’t know what they are all about but I like ‘em. Wish I could see some true emotion behind the rhetoric.
why don’t the swift boaters look up mccains military record? i would like to hear some comments about his record.
April 28th, 2007 at 4:21 pmI thought there was not going to be ANY Swiftboating of McCain?
April 28th, 2007 at 5:47 pmActually, McCain has to pay for his own trips. Unlike a president, he cannot commandeer a 747 for a flight fom point A to point B at the price of a Business Class ticket on AF 1 for each of he and his staff. For the taxpayer’s cost of a single trip, McCain could purchase about three or four plain talk buses. I am not for McCain, just stating the leverage of incumbancy.
April 28th, 2007 at 5:58 pmFor the record, the actual costs of Air Force One trips deemed “political” in nature are reimbursed by the RNC pursuant to Title III of the Federal Election Campaign Act of 1971 (2 U.S.C. 431 et seq.). Next question?
April 28th, 2007 at 6:33 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss that or the fact that Kerry missed 89% of the Senate votes during his campaign, let me know:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ articles/ A61940-2004Jun22.html
April 28th, 2007 at 6:37 pmWhich subject heading would i find coverage on the capture of 170+ Al Queda members in Saudi Arabia? You know….GOOD news in the WAR on Terror.
Comment by valiant venus #118
CREDIBILITY…
…never leave home without it…
April 28th, 2007 at 9:04 pm#124 - Jake,
First - WTH did you opt for an item highlighting the fact that the repugs choose to deny Kerry a chance to vote with procedural alterations?
Second - Why does TP consistantly delete my posts with your NASA resume. As a service to you, I may post it on one of the job BB’s.
April 28th, 2007 at 9:45 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss how Kerry missed 89% of the Senate votes (not including the one time GOP cancelled a vote he was actually ready to cast) compared with McCain missing 40% during this campaign, let me know.
April 28th, 2007 at 10:13 pmCREDIBILITY…
…never leave home without it…
Comment by big papa
Priceless…..
April 28th, 2007 at 11:36 pmNobody cares if McCain votes or not.
Comment by Clyde the Ripper — April 28, 2007 @ 11:01 am
Well, apparently somebody cares, or they wouldn’t have posted the article now would they? C’mon lefties, how about some consistency.
“Because so few Republicans have served they have to make the most of the one that did. Although lately he’s been acting like his dementia is controlling him.”
Comment by Shane — April 28, 2007 @ 11:35 am
What an idiot. How many times do people (even your fellow lefties) have to point out to you that the military has always been heavily conservative. If it was all liberal, the casualty count in Iraq would have wiped it out completely.
#49
Comment by unbelievable — April 28, 2007 @ 11:52 am
And another idot joins in. That is one tired old post you haul out. It gets slammed and you still trot it out.
Notice that Jake never posted Kerry’s voting record. Why is that Jake?
Comment by barfly — April 28, 2007 @ 11:56 am
Wednesday, June 23, 2004
According to an analysis by Congressional Quarterly — which the Bush campaign pointed reporters to — Kerry has missed 89 percent of the Senate’s votes this year (118 of 132) as of Monday, and 64 percent last year. This included several votes on veterans’ health care issues.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ wp-dyn/ articles/ A61940-2004Jun22.html
Dang it barfly, foiled again!
“It’s a fact that Atheists know the Bible better than most so-called Christians. After all, having read it is partly why we are Atheists.”
Comment by unbelievable — April 28, 2007 @ 12:12 pm
Ummm, no. Reading the Bible and understanding the Bible are two entirely different things. Your interpretation of the passages that you quoted shows your understanding is just about nil. Since it’s unlikely that you would want to speak to a pastor (and I wouldn’t wish you on any of them), find a linguist who has Biblical knowledge and can explain this to you because you just ain’t gettin it.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:02 amThis is silly. Senators miss votes all the time because staffers know the outcome on most everything that isn’t close.
I hate it when Republicans use this against Democrats, so we shouldn’t be propagating this stupidity either.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:02 amWhat a fucking douchebag!!
April 29th, 2007 at 3:03 amCREDIBILITY…
…never leave home without it…
Comment by big papa
Priceless…..
Comment by Zooey — April 28, 2007 @ 11:36 pm
I agree with you two lovebirds,on a scale of 1 to 5, I give those sentiments 3 full hatchets.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:31 am‘Naturally you will not elect me
Comment by Saywho — April 28, 2007 @ 12:41 pm”
Yeah, I alone don’t get to make the choice : )
Plus, it is kinda hard considering we just know you as “saywho”… LOL
April 29th, 2007 at 11:08 amJay - sorry to hear about your crops. We usually get some warming in late February for about two weeks, followed by more winter weather until about now… The past two years since I’ve been back from California, the warmth in late February has become all of February and at much higher temps. I saw everything blooming and felt bad knowing what would come next… It’s appalling what we are doing to this planet.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:12 am“Unbelievable,that won’t work long term.
Your veggies and their roots need the earth.
Comment by Andre V. — April 28, 2007 @ 12:55 pm”
Why not?
So far, so good. I picked out plants that were specifically engineered for growing in pots. I’m guessing the supply has finally met the demand, considering how many people have shrinking backyards.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:17 amThese people werent given the title Senator for nothing. They were in there for the reason to make a good difference with their votes. Screw him man, hes probably busy walking on the street of Iraq (without security force).
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April 29th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSo far, so good. I picked out plants that were specifically engineered for growing in pots.
Comment by unbelievable
Now that might work.
April 29th, 2007 at 4:47 pmGood luck; let us know.
Wouldn’t show up for work if he was President either. Too busy campaigning for next election.
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