ABC’s Ross: DC Madam’s List Includes White House & Pentagon Officials, Prominent Lawyers
ABC’s Ross: DC Madam’s List Includes White House & Pentagon Officials, Prominent Lawyers
ABC News’ Brian Ross revealed tonight that the list of customers of an alleged Washington-based prostitution service includes White House and Pentagon officials as well as prominent attorneys.
“There are thousands of names, tens of thousands of phone numbers,” Ross said. “And there are people there at the Pentagon, lobbyists, others at the White House, prominent lawyers — a long, long list.” Ross added that the women who worked for the service, potentially as prostitutes, “include university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers.”
On Friday, Ross broke the news that U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Randall Tobias had frequented the escort service. Ross added new details to that story tonight, recounting how he asked Tobias in a telephone interview “if he knew any of the young women, their names. He said he didn’t remember them at all. He said it was like ordering pizza.” Under President Bush, Tobias oversaw a program helping men in poor countries “develop healthy relationships with women.”
Watch it:
UPDATE: The Washington Post carries a front-page profile of the DC Madam, Deborah Jeane Palfrey, in Sunday’s paper. Palfrey will be interviewed exclusively on ABC’s 20/20 on May 4.
Transcript:
ABC: Brian, I know you were the only reporter to talk to Tobias late this week before his resignation. What did you learn from him?
ROSS: Well, David, I talked to him one day before he resigned and told him that we had found his name and personal phone number on a list of clients of the so-called DC Madam’s escort service in Washington. And what he told me was that he in fact had been a customer of the service, but that he had not had sex. He had had what he called gals come over to his condo to give him a massage. He claimed there was no sex but that he was stunned by the fact that we were aware he was a client and that was his conversation. I asked him if he knew any of the young women, their names. He said he didn’t remember them at all. He said it was like ordering pizza.
ABC: You know, we understand his name is just one of many connected to the case of the DC Madam, as you mentioned. Why does she want the names to be made public?
ROSS: Well, she has been charged by federal prosecutors with running a prostitution service. She says it wasn’t prostitution, it was fantasy sex, legal sex, and she wants to call all of her prominent clients to testify. One, she says, it’s hypocritical of the government to go after her and the women who worked for her. And two, she wants them to testify as to whether there was or was not sex. And she’s intent on doing this. She’s turned down an opportunity to take a four-month prison sentence, plea out the arrangement. She wants to go to trial.
ABC: And Brian, I presume there are others on this list who will turn heads?
ROSS: There are thousands of names, tens of thousands of phone numbers, and there are people there at the Pentagon, lobbyists, others at the White House, prominent lawyers — a long, long list, and as well, the women who work for the service, David, include university professors, legal secretaries, scientists, military officers.
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This should be a lot of fun.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:51 pmLOL
April 28th, 2007 at 11:52 pmLet’s see. I am guessing 80% Republican. Want to start a pool?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:53 pmHe said he didn’t remember them at all. He said it was like ordering pizza.
Cue the cheesy porn music…..
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 pmFamily Values!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:54 pmShe says it wasn’t prostitution, it was fantasy sex, legal sex, and she wants to call all of her prominent clients to testify.
Hundreds of prominent DC area guys just crapped their pants…..
April 28th, 2007 at 11:56 pmI’m guessing 75% Republican.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:56 pm“Like ordering pizza” ?!?!?!!? ROTFLMAO.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:57 pmI still would like to see the list of Jeff Gannon’s clients.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:57 pm#4 Bow chicka bow-bow.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:57 pmWell we know Rove and Bush isn’t on there, unless they have male prostitues?
April 28th, 2007 at 11:58 pm#4 I do remember a lot of 70’s porn starting with a pizza delivery.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:58 pmAre these people all going to go down over a BJ? This time it probably IS Clintons fault! Haha…. Clinton gets to do it!
April 28th, 2007 at 11:59 pmOh yeah… sweeeeet.
No doubt a few will be Dems, but it is a price I’m willing to pay at this point.
And want to bet that folk like O’Lielly & Rush will ONLY report about any Dems that do get snarled up in this mess, while not mentioning the FAR more numerous Rethugs?
Ka-fumph! Ka-fumph! Ka-fumph!*
*The sound of Rethugs spontaneously self-destructing all over DC…
April 28th, 2007 at 11:59 pm#4 I do remember a lot of 70’s porn starting with a pizza delivery.
Comment by JPark
I really wouldn’t know….er, I saw the pizza delivery thing on Colbert.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:00 amYeah….that’s it…
If Brian Ross knows these names, why hasn’t the whole list been published? I’d love to see this rock Washington.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:00 amFinally a sex scandal! Maybe now the American public will wake up and boot these crooks out of office.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:01 amAre these people all going to go down over a BJ?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
**snort**
April 29th, 2007 at 12:02 am#14 Noooooo. O’Reilly really couldn’t report on this one. It will only hit harder when his name comes up.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:03 am#15 Again…Bow, chicka, bow-bow. :)
April 29th, 2007 at 12:03 am#1 JPark: No shit!!!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:03 amI’m gonna shoot my wad, 100% Republican!!!
One can only hope!!! LOL
This is beyond comical.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:05 amPorter Goss will be on that list.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:05 amI am assuming that it will be considered legal prostitution because if the Republicans do it, it is not against the law…
April 29th, 2007 at 12:08 amI was just thinking this was going to be an awfully quiet Saturday night. Heh.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:09 amGrab the popcorn… this is gonna be entertainment for weeks!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:09 amIt is interesting. We all automatically think this will be bad for Republicans and have no doubt that the Dems will look much better. Might it be that the Republicans are a bunch of repressed, pathetic losers?
April 29th, 2007 at 12:09 amIf Brian Ross knows these names, why hasn’t the whole list been published? I’d love to see this rock Washington.
Comment by Jason — April 29, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Ross revealed Tobias’ name in connection with the scandal only after he had contacted Tobias by phone. I expect his team will attempt to contact suspected clients for comment before revealing their identity.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:10 amI just got a partial list from the RNC of the DC Madam’s Lists:
Redacted
April 29th, 2007 at 12:10 amRedacted
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(penciled in) Bill Clinton
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(penciled in) Hillary Clinton
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(penciled in) Barack OBama
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(penciled in) Harry Reid
That was great the way they said, “He had had what he called gals come over to his condo to give him a massage,” right as they show him speaking next to Bush.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:12 amLet’s ask this, who’s in possession of this list? And what are they going to use it to bargain for? One side of me says that the media will bury this just like most of the previous faux pas of the Bush Administration. Just sweep it under the rug. On the other hand this may just be the 10 ton piece of straw that squashed the camel’s back.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:14 amIt is interesting. We all automatically think this will be bad for Republicans and have no doubt that the Dems will look much better.
Comment by JPark — April 29, 2007 @ 12:09 am
In any case there are more Republican targets. The White House and Pentagon are pure Republican. As the party in power they make fatter targets. Also it will cause problems with the party’s evangelical base. The hypocrisy factor gets worse, although we know that Republican voters are very comfortable with hypocrisy.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:15 amI wonder if this story will have a happy ending…
April 29th, 2007 at 12:15 amMight it be that the Republicans are a bunch of repressed, pathetic losers?
Comment by JPark
You could be onto something, JPark. :D
April 29th, 2007 at 12:15 amJust as I suspected, #29, just as I suspected.
As for Dild O’Lielly, when his name comes up, #19, it will be in association w/ a live boy or dead woman.
And Yes, #27, we tend to tihnk this will make Dems look good, ’cause over and over again, the Rethugs turn out to be absolute perverts.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:16 am#32 I have no doubt that while a lot of evangilicals are comfortable with hypocrisy, there is a substantial portion (40%) that will be very disturbed by this.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:17 amDemocrats don’t go for this fantasy/legal sex shit so it’s most likely 100% Republican. Besides, it was probably one of those Christian bordellos that only cater to Conservatives. *blink blink*
April 29th, 2007 at 12:17 amLeave those people alone.
It’s their own damn business.
Let’s not go all Kenneth Starr here.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:18 amI never wanted the Republican crooks to be brought down by a sex scandal. They could come back at us and say we just wanted revenge for Clinton.
Right now, I don’t care how they’re brought down — the death toll is too high. They need to go, by whatever means possible.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:19 am#38 Ummm, joe, while I am for legalizing prostitution, you Republicans aren’t. Hoist on your own petard, eh?
April 29th, 2007 at 12:21 am#29 JTitor: Too funny! Just the way Bill O’Reilly will be presenting it Monday night. Every Democrat he can think of in the past 20 years will be on the list, according to him. 10-1 says he does so on his lie-a-thon show tomorrow.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:22 am“one of those Christian bordellos”…???
Sweet Mother of Jesus… oops, that’s one of the “entrees” on the “menu”, wink-wink… wink-wink…
Pssst… K Rove just called in his order. He’ll have the “Mother Superior” for the main course w/ an side of “Alterboy” for dessert.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:22 am#41 I hope he jumps on this with both feet. I guarantee he is on the list.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:26 amRight you are, #40.
Part of the pure pleasure of the moment derives from seeing these condescending, sneering, ultra-moralistic pseudo-Christian Super-hypocrits falling on their own swords left and right.
Like lemmings off a cliff… in a Walt Disney fantasy movie!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:26 am#42 LOL, sweet mother of Jesus, please.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:26 amI lurve the smell of hypocrisy in the morning!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:27 am#38 Joe - This is a criminal case, nothing to do with the white house. This woman has every right to a fair trial. If some hypocrites get caught with their pants down, well so be it. Prostitution is a crime in DC.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:29 am38. Comment by joe —
Is this post a joke? I think Joe’s on the list. He seems to be a little sensitive about this subject. I would love to be be a divorce attorney in DC right now.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:29 am#44 Actually, that is all of the pleasure. I don’t give a damn if some horny guy pays for sex. I do care if they are disingenuously righteous about things they are guilty of. Come out and vote the way you act, scumbags.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:31 am42. Pssst… K Rove just called in his order. He’ll have the “Mother Superior†for the main course w/ an side of “Alterboy†for dessert.
Comment by the republic of stupidity
I think that order is wrong. Rove would want the a double heap’n help’n of Alter Boy, skip the vagina.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:32 am#48 Joe got himself a tranny. Don’t tell anyone.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:32 amIs Karl Rove married? ..you know how those manly desires are.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:32 am#50 And if he got the wrong kind he would say “OOPS, wrong hole”
April 29th, 2007 at 12:33 amI’d love to be a civil attorney right now in DC. “Who gets what and what’s my cut”?
April 29th, 2007 at 12:35 amThings are deteriorating quickly around here. :-D
April 29th, 2007 at 12:36 am#52 Rove is a confirmed bachelorette.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:37 amWonder if any of DC’s “pundit elite” made the list?
April 29th, 2007 at 12:39 amBoy, I HOPE so!
#57 I am thinking the “conventional wisdom” would be not to get busted with a pro.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:41 am55. Comment by Zooey —
Just hav’n some fun Zoo.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:43 am#29 Comment by JTitor — April 29, 2007 @ 12:10 am
rofl
btw JTitor, thank you for the link to the BBC documentary, The Power of Nightmares. I’ve watched it all. Twice. I highly recommend it.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:45 amSex scandal? Great. That’s all I need. How’m I supposed to get any sleep around here?
April 29th, 2007 at 12:46 amI wonder who was the lucky prostitute that got Strom Thurmond? “Do we have to do it with your Colostomy bag still attached?” Ohhhh….
April 29th, 2007 at 12:49 am#62 And make sure she is dark.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:50 am55. Comment by Zooey —
Just hav’n some fun Zoo.
Comment by JTitor
I know — I’m enjoying the deterioration! :D
April 29th, 2007 at 12:51 amI wonder who was the lucky prostitute that got Strom Thurmond? “Do we have to do it with your Colostomy bag still attached?†Ohhhh….
Comment by JTitor
That had to be a supervisor. :P
April 29th, 2007 at 12:52 amJTitor, thank you for the link to the BBC documentary, The Power of Nightmares. I’ve watched it all. Twice. I highly recommend it.
Comment by Lily —
Thank you! You made my night, seriously! Once you research these people, you find out how truly nuts they are. Please pick up: Shadia Drury’s - Noble lies and perpetual war: Leo Strauss. Shadia is the most knowledgable person in the world on this subject and is a very nice person as well.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:54 amWhy are you all being so optimistic that there will be mainly Republicans on that list? I think there are going to be a lot of Dems’ names, too. I wish that this list would not be published. I think that people’s sex lives should be private unless there is some link to the deep-rooted corruption in this White House. However, I do understand that this story will generate more interest for the average American citizens than a story about a purge of USattorneys or even another day of more bomb explosions and deaths in Iraq. How sad!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:56 amThat had to be a supervisor. :P
Comment by Zooey —
I think they had to hire out of the country for that one. A specialist! A truly demented soul. No. I take that back. They must have gotten GW.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:57 am#67 No, this group of consumers are mostly Republicans and they should be blasted for their participation considering they claim to be anti-sex. How about that abstinence program? Heh.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:00 am# 29
April 29th, 2007 at 1:01 amthat was funny
Maggie,
It’s not about the sex lives, it’s about the hypocrisy — and the fact that this activity is illegal.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:01 amWas one of her aliases “J. Guckert”…?
April 29th, 2007 at 1:02 amFor what it’s worth, I found this page when I googled Pamela Martin and Associates. The review seems to have been written in October, and suggests it’s a service for Rupugs, but who knows.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:09 am67. Comment by Maggie —
Prostitution is illegal in DC. I don’t care if it is Democrat or Republican, if they’ve broken the law then so be it. We need good honest people in government. This is so indicative of the problem in Washington, and people that allow it to happen. Peoples sex lives are private, but there are boundries. Ask Peewee Herman. Not only can you not yell fire in a theater, you can’t masturbate either (in some cities….Florida).
April 29th, 2007 at 1:09 amI did notice that there was no mention of House members? Lets see….”Pentagon, lobbyists, others at the White House, prominent lawyers “…nope. No House members?
April 29th, 2007 at 1:13 amOhhh. This is so funny!!! Thanks johnnyRocketpants. If you click below on Pamela Martin & Associates you will get:
Where a Republican can go for descreet service and full release…
Dickless C. says:
It’s getting tough to get one’s groove on in this town if you are a Republican… However, this service has shown to be descreet, and the women are super. Ya’ gotta have the dough if you want the ‘full’ service…
I wonder who Dickless C’ is? Hmmmm two guesses,
April 29th, 2007 at 1:18 amI’ll look for that book, JTitor. Thanks for the suggestion.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:19 amDouble entendre intended?
I can already hear the cries: Clinton did it, too! Ahh, but Clinton didn’t have to pay for it!
I guess if you practice abstinence only, you need a lot of massages to relieve all that pent-up stress.
Can we add bi-sexual to bi-partisan now?
Fantasy sex…that’s with costumes, right?
Legal sex…these guys paid to have sex with their wives?
Foley: “Oh page!”
At last, the real reason why Goodling wanted immunity.
There’s been a run on D.C. supermarkets for Oxi-Clean.
Anybody care to guess the subject matter of those 5,000,000 missing White House emails now?
I predict a booming business for D.C. divorce lawyers.
Somehow, I don’t think this was the “surge” Bush was talking about.
One final thought. Jeane Palfrey was brought up on federal charges. That means a federal prosecutor pursued this case, a supposed “Loyal Bushie.” It looks like Gonzales missed one in his purge of federal prosecutors.
I think the news on this is going to be coming hot and heavy for the foreseeable future.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:24 amI wonder who Dickless C’ is? Hmmmm two guesses,
Comment by JTitor
But he only has a Trust Score of 4. :-D
April 29th, 2007 at 1:25 am“no mention of House members?”
No mention of White MEMBERS?
Oh pul-lease…
Why is that so funny, Centurion? I have a fwiend in Rome named “Biggus Dickus”…
April 29th, 2007 at 1:26 amI think the news on this is going to be coming hot and heavy for the foreseeable future.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
**snort**
Oy, that one hurt…. :D
April 29th, 2007 at 1:27 amI think that order is wrong. Rove would want the a double heap’n help’n of Alter Boy, skip the vagina.
Comment by JTitor
Actually, JTitor, I was assuming that “the Mother Superior” would come w/, how shall we say discreetly, “a certain attachment” for Karl’s sake, and then AFTERWARDS, Karl would finish off w/ a little hair ‘o the dog, so to speak…
April 29th, 2007 at 1:30 amNo, Briseadh na Faire, this is definitely the “surge” Bush had in mind, or at least K Rove. Now, if the “members” of Congress would all rise… snort… for a show of “hands”…
April 29th, 2007 at 1:35 amAt $275 an hour for a 90-minute minimum session? Yeah, they’d have to be.
Ross mentioned White House staff, Pentagon staff (the Pentagon was pretty GOP-heavy even in the Clinton era, and Bush has only made it moreso; hey, wonder if Doug Feith or Wolfowitz were clients?), lobbyists (Hey, Newt!) and lawyers (oh please please PLEASE let Joey DiGenova be one!). Heheheheheh.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:36 amIt should be a lot of fun watching ALL of these scumbags getting their due. It doesn’t matter if they’re Republicans or Democrats, but since hypocrisy about sex seems to be mostly a right-wing problem, I do expect that about 95% of these “lawbreakers” will be Republican scum.
As I believe is true of most liberals, I normally don’t enjoy watching other’s misfortunes, but somehow this seems different because of all the destruction and suffering these hypocritical scumbags have foisted on the world.
I do believe that what we’re seeing now has something to do with karma. (One of the reasons many people don’t believe in karma is because of the sometimes long time delay between cause and effect.)
April 29th, 2007 at 1:37 amI love the “I just used them for massages, not for sex” BS. Didn’t Haggart say he only bought the meth but didn’t use it? And that he never had sex with the male prostitute he was with when he had the meth?
These guys have amazing restraint.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:37 amFor a fun read:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1201061palfrey1.html
April 29th, 2007 at 1:38 amAs we already know, the Bushies in the White House and elsewhere have been extraordinarily lax with regard to security measures involving computers and God knows what else.
Now we hear that the DC Madam’s list involves WH and Pentagon officials. What’s to say that the Russians, or Chinese, or even Al Queda for that matter, haven’t had women planted amongst the “escorts” to wheedle secret information out of men who are in very compromising positions (ha ha)? The potential for blackmail alone is enormous.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:38 amI believe Rove is married to a woman named Darby and has one or two kids by her. I also read that she is a liberal, which must have been some sort of misprint. I’ve read rumors that it’s a beard situation.
What Joe are y’all taking about? Lieberman? I hope and pray! I hope he did it on the Sabbath too. I hate that man more than the Republicans.
Don’t anybody kid yourselves, there will be a healthy number of Dems on that list. Remember Barney Frank used to have a boyfriend who had some sort of prostitution thing going on. I forget the scandal - it was in the 80’s when I lived in DC. And it involved a school building, and maybe a vice principal. OK, maybe my old memory is making up puns. It won’t be the end of every career on that list.
Point is, if there are any Dems on the list at all, it will be portrayed as a bipartisan scandal. I still think the list should be made public, even though I’m fine with prostitution (except I can’t afford it). It’s against the law, and it’s not fair the madame has to go to the wall but the johns get off scott free. OK, they got off for $300/hour, but it’s still not fair.
And if people knew how common this stuff is, maybe Americans could stop acting like cranky Baptist women with prolapsed uteri. At the very least, the names of all military officers and elected officials should be made public.
Lieberman is the one I would most like to see on the list, but I think he’s just as tight assed in private as he is in public. My money is on swinger John Bolton. I’m sure Atlas will publicly shrug that one off, but she’ll be seething with jealousy inside.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:45 am“a 90-minute minimum session”, Phoeix Woman?
They may be booking them for 90 minutes, but I doubt if they ever need them for more ‘n 3 or 4min , tops… talk about wasting time and money.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:46 am“As I believe is true of most liberals, I normally don’t enjoy watching other’s misfortunes”
Comment by Willy — April 29, 2007 @ 1:37 am
I know this is something I need to work on more, because my German heritage often steers me towards schadenfreude. I’m having a lot of trouble pretending not to enjoy what’s about to happen.
I am, however, fearful for madam Palfrey. She has a lot of information. Stay safe girl, I can only imagine what’s happening in D.C. right now.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:54 amMaybe I’m just afraid that there may be Dems named. A woman is found dead in Joe Scarborough’s office, he resigns, the story disappears, he gets his own TV show. Bill O’Reilly sexually harasses a woman with whom he works, he bloviates, the story disappears, he retains his job. The Jeff Gannon/Guckert story never makes its way out of the blogs and he and those in the White House continue to mill about DC unscathed. I’m just so afraid that if there are any Dems’ names on this list that this story will eclipse the more important stories that are now being written above the fold. I want the momentum of the actions of the oversight committees to continue their investigations and hearings without distractions that are clearly more titillating to the public than watching the Attorney General’s amnesiac moments.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:57 amBut,if she has broken the law, then those who participated are guilty, too. However, I don’t think we should be the morality dispensers. We’ve had way too much of this these last six years and I’m sick of it. it.
ABC needs to print the entire list of clients of the prostitution service. Everybody on that list must be exposed and lose their jobs in DC.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:25 amI hope Barney Franks name shows up as a patron of female hookers. The Republics won’t know whether to shit or go blind.
-GSD
April 29th, 2007 at 2:25 amIf some Democrats are on that list, then they must be exposed too. The debauchery and hypocrisy in DC must come to an end. Jeff Gannon and Matt Sanchez must be forced to reveal their former client lists, because that would probably expose Bush himself.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:47 amI’ll have a large pizza, hold the syphillis.
-GSD
April 29th, 2007 at 2:49 am“like ordering PIZZA”..I’ve ordered many pizzas and never had to wear a condom, that’s total BS.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:55 amThe one aspect I have seen no comments on (at least not on ThinkProgress) is the women who were involved with the escort service, who apparently include university professors, scientists, and military officers.
If that is true, then these are educated, career women. Not exactly the type of woman I would expect to find selling their bodies for money.
What would make a professor go into prostitution? Not prestige, that is a given. I doubt sex -it’s not as if there is shortage of willing men. That leaves money. Were they in need of cash?
Maybe I am naive, but that tidbit really has me scratching my head.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:05 amMaybe I am naive, but that tidbit really has me scratching my head.
Comment by Gregor Samsa
Same here.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:12 amSamsa > This whole thing has a vile GOPer stink to it. Even the women involved sound Republican. Money seems to be the motivation for the women, and since their clients were mostly Repubs, then they had to be willing to go to bed with ugly Repubs like Tobias. Most Democrats who cheat on their wives have consenual affairs with other people and do not pay for sex. Republicans on the other hand mostly pay for sex with hookers or male escorts like Jeff Gannon. Dems look for love and Repubs just want dirty sex.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:15 amWas it a peckeroni pizza?
ok, it’s late….
April 29th, 2007 at 3:21 amThere’s going to be a long line at the Confessionals tomorrow….
April 29th, 2007 at 3:22 amI have always felt sorry for female hookers and male escorts, because their clients are mostly extremely ugly Republican males. I bet a lot of them smell bad too. Is a sad life to service the sex needs of GOPers.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:31 amDo we have to wait long for the client list? Why didn’t she send it to all the MSM?
April 29th, 2007 at 3:36 amNow we know why the Publicans were so angry at Bill Clinton: He was getting it for free when they had to pay for it.
April 29th, 2007 at 4:06 amUniversity professors, scientists & military officers? Huh?
April 29th, 2007 at 4:13 amMr. Tobias has my FULL CONFIDENCE.
We even get together occasionally and order pizza…
He likes Fish and I like SAUSAGE…
Heh heh heh…
See you in hell Toby (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
April 29th, 2007 at 4:34 amMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COWARDLY TRAITOR THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo)
Imagine being a female hooker, or male escort, and watching an ugly smelly GOPer male taking off his clothes. Then realizing you have to pleasure the disgusting bastard. Just the thought of it makes me sick.
April 29th, 2007 at 4:39 amImagine being paid to have sex with Karl Rove. I would not do it for $500 an hour. Pay me one million in cash for 15 minutes max and then I would need to throw up for the rest of the hour.
April 29th, 2007 at 4:43 amI’ll be abstaining from pizza for a while.
It just don’t taste the same to me now.
April 29th, 2007 at 5:06 amI hope Ms. Palfrey has hired or given freebies to a few of the lads at Blackwater USA. If many more names come out, she’ll need their “services” instead of the other way round.
April 29th, 2007 at 5:32 amDoubleriser
Condoleeza rice redacted her name from the terrorism report. consequence: the number of terrorists didnt rise.
uahahahahaha.
(funny eh?)
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University professors, scientists & military officers…
And you can have a paid-for-fling with these??? And they are good-looking??!?
WHERE’S MY PHONE….
On another note, Washington looks like Teheran. Everyone does it, and it’s not only not publicly admittable, it’s publicly condemned. I laugh.
April 29th, 2007 at 5:56 am“ORDERING GIRLS LIKE PIZZA.”
Why is a line like this any more acceptable than Imus’ racism, Michael Richards’ racism and any other oppressive bigoted/oppressive talk? This guy not only degraded women to the level of pizza verbally but also with his actions.
Just like folks missed the boat going crazy over Imus being a racist when the fact he called a group of girls “ho’s” is sexist and ignorant as well - folks never seem all that upset when women are degraded and oppressed. Every major religion oppresses women but it’s OK because it’s religion, they make less money in their jobs but it’s OK because they get maternity leave (ironically they get less in every job except modeling and prostitution which shows what society values women most for).
The fact that people are outraged over this “SEX scandal” and not the systematic abuse and oppression of women by prominent members of our country’s leadership says a hell of a lot about just how little our primitive minds have progressed over the past million or so years.
April 29th, 2007 at 5:57 am> This guy not only degraded women to the level of pizza verbally but also with his actions.
Often, when “degraded” and “women” meet in the same sentence, generalizations may have gone too far. Maybe you want to ask the women themselves instead of deciding for them?
April 29th, 2007 at 6:05 amI wonder if this qualifies for one of the “family values” the Republic Party pontificates about so often?
April 29th, 2007 at 6:27 amZooey once again I concur with you my dear…..I’d rather some more meaningful scandal bring them down…but they need to go down, so if this is what does it, so be it.
I bet 90+ percent are republicans. Democrats are smart enough to know they arent above the law and thus probably called from hotels, friends cell phones, etc…
Anybody want to get a pool going? I’ll wager somebody 20 bucks its 90+ percent rethug.
April 29th, 2007 at 6:55 amI know I joked above about the NeoCons blaming this on Clinton, but this is what they do (”Noble Lie”). Many people probably don’t remember David Brock a writer from the American Spectator publication back in 1994. The NeoCon controlled publication set out to comb through everything that Clinton ever did and fabricate scandal around his past. The editorial brass at American Spectator created the “Arkansas Project”. They created dysinformation about the death of Vince Foster, drug smuggling by the Clintons through Mena airport, Travelgate, Whitewater, and Troopergate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arkansas_Project
David Brock the central character eventually found his soul and left the American Spectator and became a progressive-conservative that writes against the Neo-conservative movement now. In the third chapter of “The Power of Nightmares (last 20 minutes) he is interviewed in the film where he states that all of it was fabricated to bring down the Clinton presidency.
I would suggest as a starting point in understanding the Neo-Conservative movement watch The Power of Nightmares and then read Shadia Drury’s books on Leo Strauss (Father of Neo-Conservatism).
Free to download or watch from the website:
http://www.archive.org/details/ThePowerOfNightmares
Part 1 - Baby it’s Cold Outside | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 2 - The Phantom Victory | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Part 3 - The Shadows in the Cave | 64kbps | 256 kbps | mpeg2
Shadia’s work:
The Roots of Postmodern Politics. Palgrave Macmillan: London, 1994. ISBN 0-312-12092-3
April 29th, 2007 at 7:02 amThe Political Ideas of Leo Strauss. 1st ed. Macmillan: London, 1988. ISBN 0-333-41256-7
Leo Strauss and the American Right. Palgrave Macmillan: London, 1999. ISBN 0-312-21783-8
Terror and Civilization: Christianity, Politics, and the Western Psyche. Palgrave Macmillan: London, 2004. ISBN 1-4039-6404-1
#18,
April 29th, 2007 at 7:05 am**sniff**
Damn!!! Now I want a pizza.
April 29th, 2007 at 7:08 amDamn!!! Now I want a pizza.
Comment by Jay —
As long as it’s not anchovie…
April 29th, 2007 at 7:14 amRegarding tha pool, I’ll take 83% Republican customers.
April 29th, 2007 at 7:21 amTypical American:
Illegal war killing many Iraqis and American … yawn
Dept of Justice made of partisan GOP hacks … yawn
Patriot Act leading to spying on Americans … yawn
Katrina funds “lost” … yawn
“president” bush keeping kkkarl rove despite outing a CIA agent during a time of war … yawn
Port of US going to Middle Eastern countries during war time … yawn
A SEX scandal involving mostly RepubliCONs:
Honey wake up, take a look at the SEX scandal in DC! How could they be so dirty dirty! Wow, the Senators and Congressmen are buying prostitutes! Honey, bring the popcorn. This is juicy stuff! What the heck are these politicians doing? Why are they paying for sex? Goodness sakes, it’s SEX, and SEX and SEX! This is horrible! Wow, what a scandal!
THANK YOU MADAME WHATEVER YOUR NAME for exposing this. And SAM ROSS too! :-)
April 29th, 2007 at 7:34 amJohn McCain: On a Slippery Slope?
His 2008 campaign has fallen flat
John McCain’s bid for the presidency has hit a low point just as the campaign trail is getting hotter by the second. His campaign’s fundraising is lagging behind that of fellow Republican hopefuls like Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani. And recent events such as the Iran war song fiasco and the now infamous walk on the streets of Baghdad with a security blanket fit for a president while claiming the city was safe for regular Iraqis have had a substantial negative impact on his campaign.
http://english.ohmynews.com/ ArticleView/ article_view.asp?menu=A11100&no=357683&rel_no=2&back_url=
April 29th, 2007 at 7:45 am> What would make a professor go into prostitution?
Self esteem problems and/or desire for anonymous/kinky sex or role playing.
Desparate housewifes with hubbies away on business trips who wouldnt mind a little extra bling for jewlery.
No feminists please crucify me, but if you had self-image problems wouldn’t you be flattered that people wanted to pay you for your body?
also, some people just like to have multiple partners, and this is one way to do it without having to play games and worry about psychos who will end up stalking you and/or getting your pregnant, etc. As we are seeing, the clientelle have as much, if not more at stake from someone blowing the lid than they do…
April 29th, 2007 at 7:51 am‘……It is like ordering a pizza’. !!!! but with ‘Family Values’ toppings
April 29th, 2007 at 7:53 am#124 tarazan “but with ‘Family Values’ toppings”: that’s so funny. My husband, who isn’t a native speaker of English, doesn’t quite get yet why I am chuclkling at the computer.
April 29th, 2007 at 8:03 amOften, when “degraded†and “women†meet in the same sentence, generalizations may have gone too far. Maybe you want to ask the women themselves instead of deciding for them?
Comment by El Tonno
So you don’t think lowering women to the status of a commodity is degrading? That selling them to customers like pizza delivery is a bit primitive? If this guy said, “I ordered housekeepers like burritos at Taco Bell” I’ll bet you’d think that was racist - but referring to women as pizza after buying them (or renting to be more accurate) isn’t oppressive and degrading in your mind?
Please think about your stance on that. Women are the MOST oppressed people on the planet. More than blacks, gays, jews, any of them. Every religion oppresses them, they make less money if they’re allowed to work at all, they are raped, beaten and mutilated at alarming levels in even the most “civilized” of societies and when they do acheive status they are often judged as much on appearance as merits. Imus got fired for being a racist and no one cared that he was a sexist. No one cares that Limbaugh, Stern and most of the mainstream entertainment industry is sexist - but don’t say the “N” word or you’re fired.
The restate, think about your stance on this one.
April 29th, 2007 at 8:05 amJTitor, this article from Alternet about Leo Strauss left me shaking in my boots. It’s simple and to the point — and you can see Strauss’ influence all over the place these days.
http://alternet.org/story/15935/
April 29th, 2007 at 8:28 amAfter what Tobias said”…It was like ordering pizza”,
April 29th, 2007 at 8:53 amBush defending himself in a press conference:”I never ordered Pizza from that shop’….
Order some real pizza, a liter of coke, and pop the popcorn - this promises to be a real “nail biter” for thousands of DC men. Wonder who far up the pizza chain this goes….white house? Dicey, spicy, and indicting.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:00 amHookerGate Down - now Gannon/GuckertGate to begin! And, I know that one will lead directly to the white house.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:02 amThis administration is mired in scandals like quick sand and they’re sinking fast. Couple it with the ongoing protests and calls for impeachment and I’d say that there’s a new revolution in town.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:03 amThis time it will be the “people’s revolution” against this government of corruption.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:04 amThe real question is this: no internal oversight detected this behavior? Why not? If they did, why wasn’t it stopped? We can’t trust the checkers anymore? When is it going to be enough?
April 29th, 2007 at 9:10 amWhen all names revealed…news will hit Washington D.C. like a thundering storm…
April 29th, 2007 at 9:11 amPizza is a known cure for sciatica.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:12 amPizza delivery for Mr. Tobias!
April 29th, 2007 at 9:14 am> What would make a professor go into prostitution?
The high cost of education.
When it’s free, like health care, only true nymphomaniacs will be sex workers.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:18 amThis amuses Xbot. For once, we may see their real morale values - and that is, paying for sex and having sex with small boys is fine, so long as you’re republican. And if you’re going to do it in the oval office, you can’t use the desk. That one’s for poor ol’ Georgie.
April 29th, 2007 at 9:44 amWow, Biden is smacking down russert on Meet the Press…..about time someone did.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:07 amThank goodness the Beltway service industry is still hiring. Otherwise Bush’s unemployment numbers would look really bad. Apparently the American Enterprise Institute hasn’t yet figured how to out-source corruption. Otherwise K Street & 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. would look like Detroit.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:15 amafter one gets married, the only way to GET sex is to pay for it, in one form or another… :)
April 29th, 2007 at 10:23 amAlso, you gotta know all those republican wives have tighter legs than a mousetrap…
I have not watched FOX network in years….I wonder what Hannity will say about the Pizza delivery..?!!
April 29th, 2007 at 10:24 amwhat a shock. Condi is on face the nation, and biden is having MAJOR problems with the A/V feed…
April 29th, 2007 at 10:28 amI would love to see Clarence Thomas or any other Supreme Court Justice name show up on that list also.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:29 amPizza delivery for Mr. Hannity! Coming in the back door!
April 29th, 2007 at 10:29 amPizza delivery for Mr. Hannity!
Coming through the back door!
April 29th, 2007 at 10:32 amIf a politician got caught having sex..it is not really a big problem , but what makes this stinks is that the GOP selling themselves as the ‘Family Values’ vanguards..and the way they reacted to Clinton/Lewinsky story…
Yet Gingrich at that time was playing around,and you read about GOP sexual scandal all the time…
That’s is the real issue here. It is the ‘Family Values’ sell…
April 29th, 2007 at 10:32 amI’d like to see the words “Foggy Bottom” worked into this story.
Did he have the escort service on speed dial?
And these, folks, are the very people who oppose same-sex marriage because the want to preserve the sanctity of holy matrimony. And yet getting sex to them is as easy as ordering pizza.
Did the service have special offers? “There in 30 minutes or it’s FREE” and “Two for one”?
April 29th, 2007 at 10:45 amback in my day, we got sex from women who wouldn’t give it to us for free the old fashioned way: rape.
besides, just because I was in korea during the war doesnt mean I should have to learn what the korean word for “no” is.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amRandy Tobias: It’s got porn star written all over it.
I’d like to see the “professor” give Randy a detention. Woo-woo.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:59 amTobias to Ross:’ The madam’s pizza was not cheap, but sometimes she offers ’specials’, like order one pizza, get the other one free.. something like that.. !!!!
April 29th, 2007 at 11:01 amI’d say I was surprised by this, but it would be a lie.
It’s basic psychology. Sex is a human need. And we all want what we can’t have (Forbidden Fruit Syndrome). Since the right-wing denies their own animal urges to the point of deprivation, of course they will be the large majority of the names on the list… Since it’s craven people who do craven things…
But it is funny… Caught with their pants down - literally. LOL
April 29th, 2007 at 11:02 amAh, another example of what passes for Republican humour: Misogyny mixed with arrogance and xenophobia.
And as a Korean vet you’d be –what?– over seventy now. If only you’d saved that first copy of Playboy when it came out, you’d be a rich man.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:08 amWasn’t it hoary Henry Kissinger who said that power is the strongest aphrodisiac? These Repukes had a stranglehold on power and they had to PAY for sex?
I guess these Repubic-cums will defend their licentious behavior by claiming that they’re only following the principles of that other hoary Repugnant Ronald Reagan when he said:
April 29th, 2007 at 11:14 amafter one gets married, the only way to GET sex is to pay for it, in one form or another… :)
Also, you gotta know all those republican wives have tighter legs than a mousetrap…
Comment by whiteyfresh
Two questions, whitey:
1. How many times have you been married?
2. How many Republican wives have you had sex with?
:-D
April 29th, 2007 at 11:15 am#153 - david
I’m going to go with a hunch here, and say that Jake’s name has been hijacked. Again.
I could be wrong, of course.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:16 amYeeeeeeeeeee Haaaaaaaaaaaaw!!!!!
I love it!
April 29th, 2007 at 11:24 amTo paraphrase a certain campaign slogan: It’s the hyprocrisy, stupid.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:27 amRandy To-buy-ass: It’s so cute.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:38 amABC Ross to Tobias on the phone:”Are you still ordering any pizza from the madam”?….Tobias:”Not really, but I am ordering some ‘fig leaves’ instead.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:48 amThe more religion they profess the more perverted they are and they use religion for power with such ease. Explain that.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:56 amWhy is the press pussyfooting around about not publishing the madam’s client list? Stop the games and release all the names. We want all of the perverts and hypocrites out of Washington, DC, so stop protecting them.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:01 pmWould anybody be surprised if Rove and Cheney weren’t passing this number out to keep Republicans under their thumbs. I’m sure they tried to trap many Democrats too. Bet Lieberman’s on the list.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:10 pmCould be that every General in the Pentagon used the prostitution service, but if they did then they must resign too. This is one way to clean out the old fossils in the military.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:10 pmThe old saying is true, my dad told me it was and he was right…..
……”A Woman Scorned…..”….
duck & cover……
guard the family jewels……
run like hell………………….
April 29th, 2007 at 12:14 pmJake A$$ is not a Korean Vet people, he is a punk a$$ 26-32 yr old psycho, more than likely a paid troll. JAKE IS A FAKE. Don’t ever fall for his BS Korean vet line, Jake is a liar, and a repulsive subhuman to boot.
REMEMBER JAKE IS A FAKE
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily, (and Jake and Patti 1″ too)
April 29th, 2007 at 12:20 pmI did not have sex with those women.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:31 pm#28, verbalknit
I heard reporters say that this was so potentially damaging, they wanted to check the names out before they all went to the public.
How nice — we should have seen a fraction of such diligence in their reporting before GW was (s)elected.
Or before we went to war in Iraq.
Everyone is far more preoccupied with sex scandals than they are with life or death things that affect us all.
Don’t misunderstand — anything that contributes to the demise of Bush&Co is fine with me, but the reporters claiming they need to be discrete in this is totally ridiculous.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:36 pm#52 and #56
Rove is married and has a 20-something -year old son.
This is his second marriage.
I understand that marriage does not automatically rule out certain behaviors.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:42 pm> more than likely a paid troll.
I know “getting a good bargain” isnt something anyone connected with this administratin is famous for, but I have to admit, I find it hard to beleive that anyone would pay for the low quality garbage that micheal/jake/firehead and penus/hermaphodite/liberalism=mentaldisorder provide. to be honest, while it gets bad sometimes, its often a good way to find alot of good links to refute thier “straight from the fat drug addicts mouth” talking points, as well as honing ones debate skills on thier crudge arguments/lies.
Look at mighty methead megan for instance….its obvious no ones paying that girl enough to feed herself….or even get enough calcium… the hair on her arms is thicker than her bones! yikes
April 29th, 2007 at 12:48 pmGood Morning all, some great post’s..Not suprising that this thread get’s the most attention of all the other’s here on TP….It’s a natural…Sex sell’s, sex drive’s most of the public and their reaction and sex scandles are prominent for selling anything, alway’s…What is interesting to me is not so much those involved but the back ward law’s all over our country regarding prostitution…If it were legalized and monatered for health reasons there would not be young people sold into slavery for sex…It’s one thing for an adult to want to become a prostitute for any reason and quite another for some one to be a slave and held hostige because of it….Such as the case of drug’s, mental health and all the other ignored ill’s of our society…I personely believe if it were legalized like in Nevada, monatored, health check up’s so forth a lot of street corner corruption would end…The main problem would also lessen which is slavery of many young women…..Blessings
April 29th, 2007 at 1:00 pmI see muckdog, hippie with a pistol, exley, happy guy, and more recently “Frank Matthews” as possible paid trolls, or as volunteer party operatives who have agreed to work from a fixed list of daily talking points. Those people who are very persistent on a single subject, e.g. global warming or defending Alberto Gonzales, are likely suspects.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:03 pm#168 I’m not making any general claim that reporters do a good job of adhering to journalistic principles. Sadly it appears that many top reporters frequently defy basic principles of journalism. But they don’t defy every principle all the time. I think it would be very poor practice to publish these names without giving the named a chance to respond contemporaneously. In any case this story is too lurid and juicy for the media to lay off, so I expect that the names will come out soon enough. I am willing to be patient. Also, I think it will be more fun if the names are dribbled out a few at a time. If I were one of these people, I would strongly prefer that the entire list came out at once. My greatest horror would be that I was one of only two or three people named in a given news cycle.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:10 pmI just LOVE a good pizza scandal.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:26 pmTANSTAAFL - There Ain’t No Such Thing As A Free Lay
April 29th, 2007 at 1:27 pmOne argument against legalizing prostitution is that scandals involving prostitution are so much fun. Allegedly Democrats prefer fornication while Republicans prefer prostitutes. The current crop of Republican Presidential candidates includes several much married serial adulters. No doubt some of those guys also purchased the services of hookers. Now the present scandal would be really interesting if the customer list included some top level Washington women. A couple of big names come to mind, but they are probably too discreet to get caught in this.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:33 pmYes verbalknight, i do think there might be something to your suspicions about a few of them, muckdog in particular comes to mind. He seems to have this freakish obsession with defending polluters of all stripes. This guy can’t seem to find a poisoner he doesnt love, yet seems to talk about very little else… so who knows, you may be right…these guys have so much of others peoples money to throw around, anythings possible. I think frank might be jake though, I know hes not really Frank Matthews, whose a black radio talk show host in alabama. So the only theory I have about “frank” is hes some inbred redneck from alabama whose angry that the FCC lets them uppity negroes on the radio. The writing style of many of these trolls does give them away as the same people.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:03 pmThe Republican ‘family values’ men using prostitutes? Of course. It all makes sense. Hypocrites.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:08 pmThey have Condi.
Why do they need whores?
April 29th, 2007 at 2:15 pm#173 vk
April 29th, 2007 at 2:39 pmI am with you, however, awaiting the publication of the “list.” :)
Something intriguing to me. The ABC report says that the escorts were highly educated women, many of whom held high level jobs It seems obvious that the kind of information that these escorts would have might be very valuable to any number of people, including, perhaps, foreign governments. ABC says that university professors and army officers were moonlighting as escorts. Ask yourself if these women were risking their careers for $300 dates or if they were actually being employed by someone else who paid them a good bit more for the information they had. Information about the proclivities of powerful DC figures could well have been an annuity for these women- an endless blackmail windfall.
The sex scandal angle is entertaining, but I wonder if there is a much more serious story here. Imagine if a foreign government recruited 30 women to work for the city’s most-connected escort service. Worlds turn on the kind of information these women would have.
April 29th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWhat will the (irr)religious right do with this one! Can’t wait to see.
Just another Bushie doing a heckuva job.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:17 pmI can’t wait for the hypocrites to line up, can you?