Official Caught Using Escort Service Demanded Anti-Prostitution ‘Loyalty Oaths’
Official Caught Using Escort Service Demanded Anti-Prostitution ‘Loyalty Oaths’
Former U.S. AID director Randall Tobias, who resigned yesterday upon admitting that he frequented a Washington escort service, oversaw a controversial policy advocated by the religious right that required any US-based group receiving anti-AIDS funds to take an anti-prostitution “loyalty oath.”
Aid groups bitterly opposed the policy, charging that it “was so broad — and applied even to their private funds — that it would obstruct their outreach to sex workers who are at high risk of transmitting the AIDS virus.” But President Bush wouldn’t budge. He signed a 2003 National Security Presidential Directive saying prostitution “and related activities” were “inherently harmful and dehumanizing.”
Several groups and countries had their funding cut due to the policy. Brazil lost $40 million for “one of its most successful anti-AIDS strategies, persuading sex workers to use condoms or other measures to stop spreading the disease.”
During an “Ask the White House” online chat in 2004, Tobias defended the policy, saying the U.S. was “partnering with communities” to begin “fighting sex trafficking and prostitution, while still serving victims of these activities.” Tobias added that he was overseeing several “highly successful” relationship programs “aimed at men and boys to help them develop healthy relationships with women.”
A truly inspired idea, having someone who pays for “gals come over to the condo to give me a massage” run programs on developing “healthy relationships with women.”
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So this guy was getting massaged with a happy ending? or straight up sex?
And does he go to church? Which church?
April 28th, 2007 at 1:54 pmUnbelievable! This just gets better and better.
April 28th, 2007 at 1:59 pmStay focused:
Ledeen, Wolfowitz, Pearle, Rhode, Feith, Libby, both Wurmsers, Lieberman, Chertoff and ALL OF AIPAC represent the "Suits" division of Mossad. David Rockefeller is the King Suit who married the GHW Bush contigent to the Mossad contingent for a grand conspiracy to utilize the PNAC (false flag atack) plan as the pretext for Ledeen's wet dream, TOTAL WAR.
The Bilderberg globalists assumed they were all on the same page, and the Queen Of Royal Dutch Shell (Queen Beatrix) assumed she was sheltered from investigation of role in the conspiracy to drive oil prices higher while taking over the world's supply. All of the coconspirators (elected US officials) have private bank accounts in Norway. But here's the problem. Likud double crossed them all, and as a result, controls the world right now. Israel has wiretapped every phone, has more blackmail evidence against the key players than any other single entity, and even has the ability to attack any country in the world using US nukes from our soil or their own - as they control the targeting and launch codes.
They have the US media under total control to the extent that no journalist will dare to ask ANY relevant questions about Israel's role in the entire conspiracy, or the evidence of their blackmail, bribery and extortion.
The AIPAC/ Franklin Trial? Where are the stories about that in the media? One of the worst cases of foreign espionage since the Pollard Affair, and you'll not hear or see a word of it in the Israeli-controlled US media. Irael has used the Bush Administration to achieve their own goal of creating Eretz Israel, and they are in the process of using their US Media to throw the Bush Administration under the bus, while concealing their own direct role in 9/1, the anthrax atacks, and all that has and will follow.
Next up - the attack against america, purportedly by Iran, followed by our nuclear response and a declaration of Martial law, and the activation of concentration camps in the US to house dissenters.
Google: "swift luck greens"
Agent Chertoff's wet dream.
Where are Henry Kissinger, General Tommy Franks and General Norman Shwarzkopf? What are they plotting? Ask the question - right out loud.
Check out this brief video presentation on the USS Liberty to learn how the world REALLY WORKS:
http://www.icomment.org/index.php/main/video/show?id=3892303&s=100
April 28th, 2007 at 2:00 pm...then go to one of these sites to disabuse yourself of silly conspiracy theories:
http://www.911myths.com/
April 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pmhttp://www.debunking911.com/
http://internetdetectives.biz/case/loose-change
Sometimes I wonder- is this for real or am I watching a bad movie? The corruption and sleeze of the Bush administration is so blatant and obvious, how did these guys think they would ever get away with it?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:02 pmSo what will the troll defense here be? That since Tobias wasn't receiving anti-AIDS funds, an anti-prostitution oath would not have applied to him? How about this one: He was pushing an anti-prostitution oath, not a anti-massage oath, so nothing hypocritical here.
Jake?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:03 pmThe hypocrisy of Bush officials knows no limit.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:04 pmHey Perry:
Why was Michael Chertoff's cousin (24 year-old Benjamin Chertoff) put in charge as Editor of the Popular Mechanics 9/11 debunking charade?
Don't you look foolish referring to Chertoff's cousin to debunk Chertoff's role?
Why does Chertoff have two nationalities?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:05 pmThe Bush Administration if rife with liars and hypocrites. It's time to rid this country of this insidious hypocritical evil and vote every Rethug out of office in 08.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pmRank hypocrisy has a new posterchild.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pmSo he wanted all the girls for himself?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:06 pmCan't wait to see who else will turn up in Palfrey's little black book. Good thing she got the goods to CBS before the gag order was placed. I suspect there will be people in very high offices go down on this one. Then we can move on to "GannonGate" because like "HookerGate" it will swamp this white house of total hypocrites.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:07 pmYo Tobias -- Define "healthy relationships with women."
C'mon.....at least try.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:08 pmUnfortunately, this is not merely a "bad movie"; Bush has turned this country upside down, divided the people, and brought corruption to heights never heretofore reached.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:08 pmHe tells his wife it was "just a simple massage"....right! Guess she'll be divorcing him soon?? What a fraud this man is. But that's precisely how the Bushies do it.....profess one thing in everyone's face ad nauseum as a smokescreen to hide the fact that they are engaging in those very same activities themselves. I believe that's the definition of hypocrisy.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:10 pm#8 Thanks for outing Perry. He obviously hasn't done his homework. Too funny.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:10 pmWill the real Chertoff please stand up?
I find more legitimate information on these threads than anywhere else online or in the media. Thank you, all, for providing informative links which make it easy to do one's homework. Kudos to all of you!
April 28th, 2007 at 2:12 pmOne would have to query as to why Tobias would jump the gun so quickly and resign? Could it be that there will be worse charges than mere prostitution coming his way? Did he do it to attempt to insulate his wife from the pain of discovery?
Or did he do it so he could be the first 'mea culpa' in a long litany of empty mea culpas which now mean absolutely nothing??
Whatever the reason, one can bet that there's more behind all of this. Maybe he thinks that by taking the hit on his level of administration, he can soften things for people much higher up?
Can't wait to see how far up this one goes!
April 28th, 2007 at 2:14 pmI hope someone's keeping a list of all of the Bushies who have gone down recently......there are so many of them, it's difficult to keep track.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:15 pmWith all of the Congressmen involved in HookerGate dropping like flies, who will be left to run this country?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:16 pmOnly men of low moral character are even allowed to enter the political arena.
The Globalists don't want leaders in positions of (apparent) power.
The want weasels capable of telling the greatest lies ever told, while stealing the public's treasure and undermining our security on their behalf.
Only men and women who have something to hide are allowed onto the political stage. They are then enticed into even greater wrong doing, all under the watchful eye of surveillance cameras and wired operatives - all to ensure that they continue to tow the globalist's line.
All of the Congress, Senate and Executive branch are fully compromised.
It's called blackmail, and Israel has all the evidence.
Ask Bill Clinton how his phone sex conversation's with Mossad Agent Lewinsky were taped.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:17 pmLadies, if your husband is calling a massage service for a massage...he's really calling an escort service for a hooker.
If he wanted a massage he'd go to a chiropractor for a referral and get one at the chiro's office or at a local fitness club and not a "massage spa".
Wake up morans!
-GSD
April 28th, 2007 at 2:17 pmTobias added that he was overseeing several “highly successful†relationship programs “aimed at men and boys to help them develop healthy relationships with women.â€
Obviously Tobias didn't go through the programs he oversaw. That, or the "highly successful" programs are not all they are cracked up to be.
Either way, this is yet another failed policy courtesy of the Bush administration: Loyalty oaths, abstinence-geared programs are not the way to go in the fight against AIDS.
Add this one to the long list of failures by GW Bush.
Just our of curiosity: What were Tobias' credentials to run any government program? Was being another Bush loyalist his only qualification, a la Michael "Heckuvajob" Brownie?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:19 pmThis is reminiscent of the Handmaid's Tale (by Margaret Atwood, written in the mid 1980s), which details a futuristic totalitarian theocracy, where the ones in power enforce a strict moral code but do as they please behind closed doors.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:20 pmI wish the church lady was still around to comment on this.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:21 pmevery day and in every way, another one admits guilt
I don't care that he saw prostitutes. In fact I think prostitution should be legal. The government has no business controlling our private lives like that.
I do care that he's such a hypocrite. Hypocrisy is one of the worst forms of lying. This is yet another example of the extremes to which conservatives have taken the art of lying.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:22 pmSo this guy was getting massaged with a happy ending? or straight up sex?
And does he go to church? Which church?
Comment by Gerald Gibson Jr
Is one "less severe" than the other, to women?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWhy was Michael Chertoff’s cousin (24 year-old Benjamin Chertoff) put in charge as Editor of the Popular Mechanics 9/11 debunking charade?
Oh Jesus Christ, not that one too. Benjamin Chertoff has no idea if he's related to Michael Chertoff. When the report came out a reporter called Benjamin's mom and asked if they were related. She replied that she had no idea, but maybe he was a distant cousin they didn't know of.
And every other charge you idiots has thrown out has been debunked, but of course that won't stop you from spreading your delusions.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:27 pmMister Tobias:
Was it SATON?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:28 pmCredentials:
Tobias previously served as AT&T’s Vice Chairman from 1986 until 1993, and as Chairman and CEO of AT&T International from 1991 until 1993. In 1993, he left AT&T to become Chairman, President and CEO of Eli Lilly and Company, serving in that position until 1999.
After stepping down from his post at Lilly, he continued to serve on several corporate boards while also focusing his attention on a number of business, community and philanthropic interests and on teaching and writing. His book on leadership lessons learned, Put The Moose On The Table, written with his son, Todd Tobias, was published in early 2003. Bush then appointed him to be the first United States Global AIDS Coordinator with the rank of Ambassador, reporting directly to the Secretary of State.
I guess that qualifies him to run the global AIDS initiative.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:28 pmBut who is Benjamin Chertoff, the "senior researcher" at Popular Mechanics who is behind the article? American Free Press has learned that he is none other than a cousin of Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security.
This means that Hearst paid Benjamin Chertoff to write an article supporting the seriously flawed explanation that is based on a practically non-existent investigation of the terror event that directly led to the creation of the massive national security department his "cousin" now heads. This is exactly the kind of "journalism" one would expect to find in a dictatorship like that of Saddam Hussein's Iraq.
Because the manager of public relations for Popular Mechanics didn't respond to repeated calls from American Free Press, I called Benjamin Chertoff, the magazine's "senior researcher," directly.
Chertoff said he was the "senior researcher" of the piece. When asked if he was related to Michael Chertoff, he said, "I don't know." Clearly uncomfortable about discussing the matter further, he told me that all questions about the article should be put to the publicist – the one who never answers the phone.
Benjamin's mother in Pelham, New York, however, was more willing to talk. Asked if Benjamin was related to the new Secretary of Homeland Security, Judy said, "Yes, of course, he is a cousin."
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn-Chertoff_cousin.html
Google:
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,290 for "benjamin chertoff" + mother + cousin.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:32 pmIt appears that hypocrisy knows NO bounds. Join the conversation here.
http://osi-speaks.blogspot.com/2007/04/aid-head-escorted-out-of-office.html#links
April 28th, 2007 at 2:33 pmHm, seems there are people at the ready to debunk any mention of Chertoff's role. Is it such a boring Saturday, or are they on the watch for this?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:34 pmSorry, but after the Dancing Israelis on nineoneone, I don't trust anyone vaguely related to the AIPAC group.
I thought I'd take a look at his book on leadership at amazon.com, Put the Moose on the Table: Lessons in Leadership from a Ceo's Journey Through Business and Life.
Table of Contents
One: Prescription for Disaster
Two: The Ghost Ship
Three: The Opposite of Wine
Four: Small Town, Big Lessons
Five: A Complete Education
Six: The Hierarchy of Secrets
Seven: Bond Traders
Eight: Focusing on the Boxes
Nine: Risky Business
Ten: When It's Time to Go
There's a boatload of jokes in that listing! Have at it.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:35 pmI guess that qualifies him to run the global AIDS initiative.
Comment by Candyce — April 28, 2007 @ 2:28 pm
Thanks Candyce.
That is about what I have found in every biography and article written about this man.
The only thing missing in his resume is work with some horse association. That would make his resume really up to snuff.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:36 pm1) Please take the 9/11 conspiracy thingies elsewhere. There is enough things to get upset about without invoking imaginary ones, spiced-up by good high-calorie far right propganda. In other words: GTFO
2) What's so bad with prostitution that reichwingers stoop down to all sort of dumbness to eradicate it from their idea of what reality should be? The bible is chock-full of good old-fashioned sex workers.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:39 pmThe author of the aformentioned article about Chertoff, Christopher Bollyn, was attacked by Chertoff's Homeland Security goons in his own driveway.
If Chertoff were not a dual citizen with ties to Israel, why would he go to such great lengths to silence this author?
http://www.iamthewitness.com/Bollyn.html
April 28th, 2007 at 2:41 pmJust wait until America finds out who paid for his $500 hookers. And you thought it was tough being a Republican in 2006 . . .
April 28th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWhat exactly is Chertoff's connection to Tobias and his hooker issues?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:47 pmWith every new criminal revelation, it becomes more obvious the extent to which blackmail of our elected officials can be employed by foreign agents.
Remember the Hookergate story? Funny how that just got swept under the rug.
What about Jeff Gannon?
How many pictures does he have of top administration officials, on top?
On whose behalf?
Who was Chandra Levy working for when she was killed? She worked for Gary Condit - on national security matters - but the day she disappeared, Condit was meeting with none other than VP Cheney in his office. How was she placed in Condit's office? By whom? Why was she disapeared in the weeks preceeding 9/11? What did she become aware of?
This is SEXPIONAGE - and it represents a massive national security threat.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:48 pmWhat exactly is Chertoff’s connection to Tobias and his hooker issues?
Comment by AboveTheClouds — April 28, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
Ever hear of the term "Warantless Wiretaps?"
If you had total control of the NSA to eavesdrop on anyone at anytime for any reason, and you represented a foreign government, what could you do with the audio tapes and e-mails?
I encourage you to assume the worst of those who purport to represent our interests. Their actions speak for themselves.
Why was Chertoff not fired in the aftermath of his handling of Katrina?
Why was this the only occassion in GW bush's life where he ever stepped forward to take the blame - for the failures of Chertoff?
If you're not at least curious to know the truth, you deserve the government you have - and Fascism shall be your reward.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:53 pmIt is amazing to read about such hypocricy,when 'Family Values' is the sold product by these people.
April 28th, 2007 at 2:53 pmwhy is it waaahhhhpublican men can't get laid unless they're paying for it? actually, scratch that, unless the american taxpayers are paying for it?
April 28th, 2007 at 2:57 pmace, what are you rambling on about? It may be interesting to some, but it's completely off topic.
It's you are 'foo focused'. You're suffering from monomania. I know you're paranoid. And I know that being paranoid is not proof that they're not out to get you. But chill out. Only about 20% of your international conspiracy is true. The rest it tinfoil hat nonsense.
Stay focused. The topic is Tobias and the hypocrisy of the sexual mores of the Bush Administration and the Christian Right in general.
This scandal underlines a liberal complaint about the far right's ideology. The Republicans and the Christian Right base their social and fiscal policy on a false theory of human nature. And what is most perverse is that this ideological blindness actually breeds the corrupt leadership we witness in Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Tobias. They wrap themselves in the Stars & Stripes and wave the Holy Bible in their right hand. And they may even be sincere in the same way that any sales & marketing huckster is sincere about providing 'service'. But it is fraud nevertheless.
The lesson we can learn from this scandal is that it is by taking a liberal stand that one actually reduces incidents of unwanted pregnancy, abortion, the transmission of HIV/AIDS, child poverty, and improve the working conditions of women who might other slid into vicious cycle of prostitution & drugs. It's the Sunday School morality lesson that the sinner must fall on her knees and repent before being forgiven that sticks in the craw. And yet a progressive might turn to Genesis 38 and the tale of Judah propositioning Tamar to see that this kind of moral blindness has been explored since the beginning of civilization. And it is through tolerance, forgiveness, and caring that we can help others to find themselves --not be withholding aid until the beg.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:08 pmsilly ...
that word doesnt disprove anything.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:31 pmReply to David comment 44
If the Bush Conservative base is guilty of creating " their social and fiscal policy on a false theory of human nature. And what is most perverse is that this ideological blindness actually breeds the corrupt leadership we witness in Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, and Tobias. They wrap themselves in the Stars & Stripes and wave the Holy Bible in their right hand."
How do we decide if their entire impetus is not similarly flawed and therefore a catastrophe? And if so, what do you do about a junta apparently joined like fascists with the corporate propaganda institutions as well as the military industrial complex?
April 28th, 2007 at 3:34 pmDo we sit back as watch the destruction of the American Republic?
If you wrote a script like this and tried to sell it in Hollywood they would laugh you out of town. You just cant write stuff as good as this.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThe hypocrisy of these bastards is just utterly astounding. But you gotta love it!
April 28th, 2007 at 3:38 pmOne telling thing about this guy is that when the escort service came under prosecution, he didn't have the discretion (or intelligence) to stop his behavior. Instead he goes to another service.
Rather than call this stupid, I'll call it addictive behavior. A sex addict is running our anti-sex policies. What the world must think of us.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:45 pmI hereby relinquish to Randall Tobias my crown and scepter, bestowing to him all honors and privileges of THE HIGH PRIEST OF HYPOCRISY.
April 28th, 2007 at 3:45 pmAmen.
I almost can't watch anymore. This is like the government in the original version of "The In-Laws." SNL, Monty Python, Kids in the Hall, Second City, Benny Hill -- no one, I mean NO ONE, could come up with this stuff. Gosh, I'm glad the grown-ups are in charge...
April 28th, 2007 at 4:32 pmAce
April 28th, 2007 at 4:35 pmIt is me who actually controls the world not Israel, they are just fronting for me.
Looks like he'd hold one in his mouth till it went soft,you know like Hannity does!
April 28th, 2007 at 4:38 pmHa ha. Another self-serving ass-wipe of a GOPer gets shamed in front of the whole world. And his wife
April 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pmJump, ass-hole, jump!
Nico - I would have thought a guy who utilized the "services" of hookers would appeal to the sexually liberal Progressives. (I'm sorry...I must be straight.) Now if your bosses would permit the coverage of real news, they might include this just completed study from the University of Maryland:
"Polling data just released (April 24, 2007) in a rigorously conducted face-to-face University of Maryland/ WorldPublicOpinion.org interview survey of 4384 Muslims conducted between December 9, 2006 and February 15, 2007—1000 Moroccans, 1000 Egyptians, 1243 Pakistanis, and 1141 Indonesians—reveal that 65.2% of those interviewed—almost 2/3, hardly a “fringe minorityâ€â€”desired this outcome (i.e., “To unify all Islamic countries into a single Islamic state or Caliphateâ€), including 49% of “moderate†Indonesian Muslims. The internal validity of these data about the present longing for a Caliphate is strongly suggested by a concordant result: 65.5% of this Muslim sample approved the proposition “To require a strict [emphasis added] application of Shari’a law in every Islamic country.â€
April 28th, 2007 at 5:08 pmwow
April 28th, 2007 at 5:41 pmPerhaps Tobias can rehab his rep doing Viagra spots on Foxy News. Or did Eli Lilly make him sign a loyalty oath for his retirement package and stock options? (Pfizer pumps V.)
April 28th, 2007 at 5:45 pm#46. Shirley, I don't know what to say. I think the whole Republican/Libertarian Christian Right philosophy is false. It's based on a pessimistic and mean-spirited view of human nature. And you are right, it does go beyond social and fiscal policy and embraces their attitude to foreign policy, labor and immigration.
What's to be done? I don't know. I find the Left too divided. And the media is dominated by neo-conservative thinkers. One doesn't need to check ThinkProgress or MediaMatters to see this to be true, but there's so little disagreement and the MSM seems to only represent Center, Center-right, Right, and Far Right. I don't consider anyone to be genuinely liberal or progressive except Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert --and they're comedians!
Post #55. Vladiant Venus, you seem to have a perverse idea of liberal sexuality. Perhaps your years in a convent have jaded you to a glimpse of stocking. The 'permissive' attitude is 'non-judgemental' in acts involving free and equal consenting adults. Tobias was a hypocrite. He was very judgemental --and excessively authoritarian and hyper-moralistic. And his use of hookers when making others take a "no hookers allowed" pledge should see him tarred and feathered. Talk about your Rev Dimesdale from The Scarlet Letter!
And V V, your take on that survey of four Muslim countries was definitely slanted. Survet here. It's not a huge survey by any means. Particularly in countries not often polled or tested. And you should see how some of the answer go. The American people come off quite nicely compared to the government. I only wish Americans could be half so generous to the people in Muslim countries.
April 28th, 2007 at 5:53 pmLooks like Randall Tobias uses a condo but not a condom. And if this was a State Department residence would that make Condoleezza the condo leaser? Which raises another question.
Did the Condo-Man condemn condom and con dumb Condi ?
And all the girls would wonder.
Is he the Condo man, the condom man, or the Condi man?
This Randy Tobias, so randy to buy us.
And considering Randall "Duke" Cunningham, this is the second Randall Scandal of the year.
In tribute to the all of this:
"Randyman Candyman"
Who did take an escort
Sprinkled and withdrew?
Massaged a foggy bottom and a spherical or two
The Condo man, the Condi man can,
No Condom-man can 'cause he mixes it with faith
and makes the world chaste, good
The Condi Man fakes
Policy he makes
Stat defying and malicious.
It can really be pernicious
Making abstinence auspicious
Who can take Relief Funds
Use to disinform
Waste the money just to make regressive thought the norm
The Condo man, the Condi man can,
No Condom-man can 'cause he mixes it with faith
and makes the world chaste, good…
The Condi Man rejects
Latex for his sex.
Monogamy and faith for AIDS Czar,
Not as much a thrill as maids are,
n' Condi knows what fun charades are.
Who can take pandemic
Modern science spite?
Squander all the funding to enrich the Christian right
The Condo man? The Condi man can, the conned dumb man can…
No Condom-man can 'cause he nixes it with faith
and makes the world chaste, good…
And the whore'll taste good
April 28th, 2007 at 6:06 pm'cause the condemned man thinks with wood …
But, but -- did he get a blowjob? /snark off
April 28th, 2007 at 6:14 pmWhat is the penalty for breakiing the anti-prostitution “loyalty oath� Castration? Hypocracy knows no bounds with these people. I used to think they were stupid, now I believe they are blithering idiots.
April 28th, 2007 at 6:36 pmOne thing's clear: Sex workers in America need a union. These men and women are being criminally exploited by pimps, johns and the US government, which refuses to acknowledge the world's oldest profession and afford them equal rights as workers and human beings.
Get real, America. Legalize it, then tax it and regulate it. We can no longer afford this dangerous post-Victorian hypocrisy.
April 28th, 2007 at 6:38 pmI don't admit any wrong doing! I never touched that hooker! Or at least I didn't inhale! I don't recall being with those hookers! Senator I simply don't recall those hookers! No Senator I didn't forget those hookers, I just don't recall being with them! It's Bill Clinton's fault! During the Clinton administration those hooker were used, so why are you pointing the finger at this administration. I don't recall why I was with those hookers or whether I was with them at all.
Signed Randal Tobias (Gonzales)
April 28th, 2007 at 6:50 pmBut, but — did he get a blowjob? /snark off
Comment by Helen Rainier
No, it was just a penal massage.
April 28th, 2007 at 7:08 pmNo, it was just a penal massage.
Comment by Lora #63
hahahahahahahaha!!!!
...clever...
...I get it ...
...penal-penile...
hahahahahahaha!!!!
April 28th, 2007 at 7:25 pmAre there any republicans in positions of power, from the president on down, who are worthy of respect (the titles don't mean a thing to me) ? Are there any virtues exhibited by these "leaders" worthy of emulation? I was talking to my grandson who is 11 about "honor" and "integrity" and was at a loss to provide the names of contemporary american politicians ....what has happened to our political system and to our society....everyday I read about examples of dishonesty, hypocracy, warmongering, selling-out....the personal benefit over the public SERVICE...yes, a quaint and apparently lost concept.....No wonder we are in such a mess. I don't know where this will all end....not well, I fear...
April 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pmbig papa,
April 28th, 2007 at 8:09 pmYes, it was meant as a double entendre.
I just love these Rethug hypocrites, don't you?
It seems that VV's tactics when allegations of Republican wrongdoing are either to say that Democrats would condone it (i.e. the Clinton did it defense) or to brush it off as a politically-motivated hit job...Perhaps your Republicans are not the pure as snow angels you thought you were.
April 28th, 2007 at 8:13 pmI just love these Rethug hypocrites, don’t you?
Comment by Lora #66
Au contraire mon ami...
...au contraire...
April 28th, 2007 at 8:19 pmIs he also the unnamed married Bush appointee that Jessica Cutler was banging for money before Wonkette outed her as a GOP Mike DeWine staffer-ho? Did his knocked-up hos get abortions? Were his Latin escorts UNDERAGE SLAVES?
April 28th, 2007 at 8:33 pmMon chere ami big papa,
April 28th, 2007 at 8:50 pmI'm sure you realize I was being sarcastic on #66.
BTW, I in no way resemble Ann-thrax (or Ann-drew) Coulter, except for being Caucasian. Please address me as "mon amie"--not "mon ami." I, otherwise, love your posts.
One thing’s clear: Sex workers in America need a union. These men and women are being criminally exploited by pimps, johns and the US government, which refuses to acknowledge the world’s oldest profession and afford them equal rights as workers and human beings.
Get real, America. Legalize it, then tax it and regulate it. We can no longer afford this dangerous post-Victorian hypocrisy.
Comment by jimbo921072
if it weren't illegal it would be public record.
April 28th, 2007 at 8:50 pmI’m sure you realize I was being sarcastic
Comment by Lora #70
...absolutely...
...and pardon my French...
...NO ONE except that biCH Coulter...
...can resemble it...
...finally...
...back at ya...
...on the post-loving...
...gushing...(Really!) :-)
April 28th, 2007 at 8:56 pm#57 - "And V V, your take on that survey of four Muslim countries was definitely slanted. Survet here. It’s not a huge survey by any means. Particularly in countries not often polled or tested. And you should see how some of the answer go. The American people come off quite nicely compared to the governmen....."
So David, when your side crows about the 1118 people surveyed by CBS, the NYT and how horrible things are according to the "polls" - we'll just remind you that perhaps the numbers are skewed. Nice try.....
April 28th, 2007 at 9:15 pmI would have thought a guy who utilized the “services†of hookers would appeal to the sexually liberal Progressives.
Comment by Vile Venus
You write this every single time a neoCON sex scandal is revealed. It's really stale by now, and obviously you don't learn very well, do you, Mighty Hypocrite? It's the hypocrisy of people like Tobias, Wolfie, and the Rev. Ted who preach one thing, while engaging in the opposite behavior that bothers us. Unlike you sexually obsessed neoCONs, we otherwise don't care what consenting adults do in their bedrooms or other private spaces.
April 28th, 2007 at 9:36 pmNO ONE except that biCH Coulter…
…can resemble it…
Comment by big papa
You obviously have a better eye than I do, papa. When hubby and I first got cable TV installed, I had a hard time distinguishing all the reich-wing blondes (including faux blondes).
April 28th, 2007 at 9:39 pmWhat you're all missing out on is that it's a stressful job! He NEEDS a massage once in a while to re-center his karma. No, really! It's TRUE!
April 28th, 2007 at 9:51 pmComment by Lora #75
...as a lifelong admirer of beauty...
...especially when it comes to the "fairer" sex...
...spotting the differences in:
Ann(drew) Coulter's...Adam's apple
Kate Obiern'e's...shriveled, rodent-like features
...and Bab's... resemblance to what a drooping 80 year old elephant vulva must look like...
...to name a few...
...as unpleasant and disconcerting as it is...
...it is STILL quite effortless...
April 28th, 2007 at 9:55 pm#77 - big papa
SNAP!!
Heh.
April 28th, 2007 at 9:59 pmComment by Zooey #78
...kinda figured that'd...
...wake you up! :-)
April 28th, 2007 at 10:09 pm…kinda figured that’d…
…wake you up! :-)
Comment by big papa
I've never been more pleased at not being blond. :P
April 28th, 2007 at 10:28 pmMakes one yearn for a sex scandal that is at least just a teensy bit sexy.
April 28th, 2007 at 10:30 pm#81 clb72
April 28th, 2007 at 10:58 pmThanks for the chuckle. I'll second that one.
#22 Ladies, if your husband is calling a massage service for a massage…he’s really calling an escort service for a hooker.
Comment by GSD
Well, either they are pansies or they are gay. Straight guys don't do massages unless there is a happy ending.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:13 pmMakes one yearn for a sex scandal that is at least just a teensy bit sexy.
Comment by clb72
Or even interesting....
April 28th, 2007 at 11:27 pmWhy would someone pay $500 an hour to get a massage when they can get one from a massage therapist for $55.00. But, I bet he did get a massage, that just wasn't all he got. Kind of like Clinton saying "I didn't have sex with that woman".
Scum, hypocrite, jerk, asshole...I could go on and on but those all describe this lowlife. Hypocrite is the biggest one, though.
April 28th, 2007 at 11:43 pm#84 - I take that back. Things just got a bit interesting....
April 29th, 2007 at 12:22 amHe was applying medical cream onto the woman's vagina.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:55 amwhat a hypoctitical bastard. this is republican and religious right's way of enjoying sex....but this is also part of the sheer hypocricy that we permit people to have sex on camera...apparently we are too moral though to engage in real sex.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:11 am"One telling thing about this guy is that when the escort service came under prosecution, he didn’t have the discretion (or intelligence) to stop his behavior. Instead he goes to another service."
A bigger question is why is the DC madam being prosecuted? Her home and bank accounts have been siezed. At least she was smart enough to hide her book. A motion was made in court to sieze and supress the book. Hopefully she has a number of copies off shore and in secure hands. This thing will get ugly. Lets not assume that she only worked with Republicans. There are probably plenty of Democats in the book too.
One other thought. The record is for telephone numbers caputured by her cell phone. Those numbers are available from her cell phone company. They have a record of every call made to and from thier cell phone customers.
Eric Von Baranov
April 29th, 2007 at 2:21 amLook at the pic of Tobias on this thread. He is a typical ugly GOPer who has to pay someone to get laid. His wife stopped doing him years ago.
April 29th, 2007 at 3:07 amIt is not much of a story, kind of ordinary: balding lumpy guy gets caught with his pants around his ankles...then the phoney meter starts ticking, and the more you look, the uglier it gets.
April 29th, 2007 at 6:55 amIt's official. Aliens exist.
They have taken over the Repub Party.
When you play holier than God
God has a unique way of showing your full of Shyt.
Or as I llike to say what goes around comes around.
And the Republicans have the total destruction of their party to look forward to.
At least I do.
April 29th, 2007 at 6:58 amGetting a massage from an escort service means sex. For legitimate therapeutic massage their are professionals available and for as someone who gets therapeutic massage work for the past 25 years you have to have the same professional working in a legitimate environment. It takes a professional massage therapist a year to learn about an individual's legitimate needs. An escort service requires no licensing. I wonder if Tobias was charging his massage work to the government? p.s. when seeking legitimate massage whether the massage therapist is male or female doesn't matter.
April 29th, 2007 at 7:45 am…spotting the differences in:
Ann(drew) Coulter’s…Adam’s apple
Kate Obiern’e’s…shriveled, rodent-like features
…and Bab’s… resemblance to what a drooping 80 year old elephant vulva must look like…
…to name a few…
…as unpleasant and disconcerting as it is…
…it is STILL quite effortless…
Comment by big papa
mon chere grand papa.
April 29th, 2007 at 7:52 amSOrry to be late in getting back to you about this. I actually personally find the voices--not to mention what they have to say-- of the at least first two creatures you cite uglier than their actual visages. As for Babs, you mean she isn't an 80 year old elephant yet?
I bet 99.9 percent of Deborah Jeane Palfrey's clients are "christians".
April 29th, 2007 at 11:20 amWatch out when "christians" mouthforming "values".
All I can say is, the women who serviced Mr. Tobias were grossly underpaid!
April 29th, 2007 at 12:15 pmAs usually it's not that I have any problems with people using escorts services, regardless of what they get out of it - be it a massage with happy ending or full-on sex.
Rather it's the fundamental law of leadership: Credibility. The quickest way to destroy credibility is to create conflict between what you say and what you do. 'Do as I say, not as I do' is not leadership and is never acceptable policy. Leaders must always 'lead by example' but also be honest about what subjects or policies on which they really can or will be able to maintain that leadership consistency.
In the case of an escort service: if you can't resist the need that you know will lead it, then do NOT moralize against that whole subject of sex. We adults (physically and mentally) know about sex and know the urges are both natural and sometimes unavoidable - most of us can live with those human urges in politicians if they aren't hypocrites about it.
The Bush administration seems to be too ideological, too ignorant or too stupid to understand this most basic, this most fundamental of simple human concepts. It's a consistent thread - every time there is something the Bush administration touched that later went bad, lack of leadership consistency has always been one of the root causes that triggered the fall. Classical Greek hubris gets mixed into it also.
April 29th, 2007 at 12:43 pmThe thing that bothers me about this "administration" is the arrogance. They all think they can do whatever they wish; that the rules apply to everyone else.This is an attitude that starts in the Oval office and trickles down. But the bigger issue here is that Bush has appointed fools like Tobias all over the government. And on that glorious day when President Nimrod finally leaves office, the new president, whomever he or she is, will spend all of their time revamping the departments these idiots have fouled up.
April 29th, 2007 at 1:19 pmRepublican hypocrisy at its worst.
April 29th, 2007 at 6:11 pmI can't wait for the next episode of Wheel of Hypocrisy!
April 29th, 2007 at 8:44 pmwhy were we giving brazil 40 million?
April 29th, 2007 at 10:35 pmCalling an escort for just a massage is similar to say going to a restaurant for just a drink. Does this sound logic?
April 30th, 2007 at 3:55 amThe fatal flaw in politics is that the scum always rise to the top. Once a small % of the population acquires more power than everybody else, then they are easily corrupted and compromised in numerous ways.
Direct democracy is the ONLY solution to this, whereby each citizen has equal political power.
Representative goverment simply doesn't work, nor will it ever work. The only people the reps end up representing are their own interests. Just look at the constant proof all around! Greed for money and greed for power corrupt it, ALWAYS.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:34 amapparently, the 'religious right' don't apply their policies to their personal lives.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:53 amThis is typical of the members of the priveleged class -- that tight knit little club of executives that travel from corporation to corporation robbing them blind. Laws are for those who can't afford good lawyers.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:53 amWhy is everyone complaining? This is just typical scumpublican behavior. Everyone knows what the scums are like when they vote for them. But they do it anyway, which means that it just doesn't matter.
Just spout Jesus, and you can do what you want.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:51 am9/11= Inside Job
April 30th, 2007 at 12:16 pmTobias knows
Comment in reply to James Kirk (#102) : "why were we giving $40 M to Brazil?"
Brazil is conducting some of the most progressive HIV prevention work in the world, which includes needle exchange and condom promotion among sex workers. They competed for a grant from the US state department, and were awarded it. In the 'red tape' of the contract was language requiring that Brazil condemn prostitution, which is now standard USAID lingo in contracts under Tobias, including PEPFAR (the President's Emergency Fund for AIDS Research). Rather than undermine their own program, which had been proven successful, Brazil decided that they were not hypocrites and GAVE the money back to the US. rather than sign the contract.
Now THAT takes chutzpah. I think they should get the $$ back given the scandal over the last few days.
May 1st, 2007 at 9:23 amAfter two plus decades in the US I still admire (or better, I am puzzled) by the degree fellow Americans trust (or take pride in) their government, (supposed) "checks and balances", etc. etc. I happened not to believe that government or Wall Street or local school board, police, etc. operated that MUCH differently under Clinton or Dems-controlled Congress. How come, for example, that one can make up swindles, pretending that Saddam has WMD, launchable in 45 minutes, send 200K soldiers plus enormous logistical support half world around with no checks, no balance to cry: faul! No oposition party, no "free press", nothing. --- Looking for example at just aired Dem prez candidates forum: Almost all talk persuasively about some kind of universal health coverage. Yet it will never happened because the system is so short-sighted individualistic and even "reasonable" people do not want "socialized medicine" which universal coverage supposedly is. Secondary (or worse) issues are fiercely debated, the most important things almost ever on the table.
May 1st, 2007 at 3:46 pmAre we really that surprised?
Prostitution ProCon.org
May 16th, 2007 at 6:34 pmOur entire system is flush with corruption... if we don't stop being partisan and face the facts we are going to just keep changing names and faces..
May 21st, 2007 at 1:13 am