An open letter to George Tenet,
By on Apr 29th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
An open letter to George Tenet,
written by group of former CIA and other intelligence officials, urges the former CIA Director “to dedicate a significant portion of his royalties to soldiers and families of those killed or wounded in Iraq.” They write:
Mr. Tenet, you cannot undo what has been done. It is doubly sad that you seem still to lack an adequate appreciation of the enormous amount of death and carnage you have facilitated. If reflection on these matters serves to prick your conscience we encourage you to donate at least half of the royalties from your book sales to the veterans and their families, who have paid and are paying the price for your failure to speak up when you could have made a difference. That would be the decent and honorable thing to do.
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Tenet cares more about himself, than being a honorable man.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pmi 2nd that!
April 29th, 2007 at 10:40 pmWow. That’s embarrassing — for Tenet. :D
April 29th, 2007 at 10:45 pmAgreed and I’m not wasting my time or money on his bookie.
You know he probably had an agreement from the administration that he could throw a little harmless pig sh*t so people would buy his book.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:45 pmGeorge Tenet is an honorable man. That’s why he was given the medal of freedom.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:46 pmHe will tell them what he told “60 Minutes”: that the intelligence that was totally made up was not made up so he should keep all the money for himself.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:48 pmClinton did it, too. So did Pelosi.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pmThe 60 minutes interview was painful. This guy was a snake among a bunch of snakes and he is surprised he was bitten.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:51 pmIt’s the same thing from every one of these Bush administration jerks when they get confronted about how badly they screwed up. It’s always the “We’re only human” defense.
All of a sudden, the day Bush took office, we dropped all of our standards and nobody had to exercise foresight anymore. Anybody in the Bush administration could ignore warnings and make their decisions on gut feelings as opposed to real, hard data. And when things turn out badly, it’s “Hey, how was I to know?”
It’s the incompetence, stupid.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:52 pmSo the swift boasters want to open a charity for those wronged. Perhaps, we can start with Valerie Palme.
April 29th, 2007 at 10:54 pmI watched the interview, too, and either the guy is just a complete moron or he was putting on an act. If it was an act, I think he was trying to sound like an auto mechanic from Jersey, rather than the former head of the CIA.
“Scott! Listen to me! Scott! We don’t torture.”
What the f*ck do you call waterboarding, jackass?!!
April 29th, 2007 at 10:58 pmHere’s my open letter to Tenet:
Stop covering for Bush! He screwed you and he’ll screw everyone else who does him any favors. Spill your guts and turn the SOB in. He’s still sending people out to lie about you. He’s the one who threw you under the bus. Stop covering for him, ya dumbass!
April 29th, 2007 at 11:02 pm#5 I see you have left your usual turd in the middle of decent intelligent discussion, once again. You should be aware that people have learned to step around your little messes by now. You are irrelevant and are a disgrace to yourself and yourself alone. You are a nat.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:03 pmWhile Tenet is just a mega rat jumping ship, the fact that he he’s telling his story on network tv opens this whole can of worms to an audience that doesn’t go looking for facts.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:05 pmOuch! But I’m still waiting for him to throw his little metal through the whitehouse gates right in Bush’s face.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pmTenet tried to project himself as a passionate champion of truth but looked like a jittery, loud-mouthed liar off his meds.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:06 pm$4 million advance for the book will buy a lot of body armor for the troops in Iraq now, too. Not to mention health care for the wounded.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:07 pmHe slithers in the chair like a snake, striking out when he feels like he needs to emphasize a point. He made me feel not so fresh.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:12 pmToo little, too late. Tenet, you looked and sounded like a bloviating fool. You continue to be on the wrong side of honorable.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:29 pmDonate half the royalties? Yeah, like that’ll ever happen . . . maybe when GDumbya donates half his inherited wealth and both of the drunken slut twins to his dirty little war in Iraq . . . maybe.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:30 pmWhat the f*ck do you call waterboarding, jackass?!!
Comment by chimpeach
Those who claim waterboarding is not torture should be waterboarded — just so they can be sure they’re right.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:30 pmHe’s a freaking repuke, not a change, they have no morals or ethics at all, he just wanted to profit from his book, the repuke scum are all alike.
hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 29th, 2007 at 11:37 pmI’d give Scott Pelley an A++ for that interview. Looking at the comments reinforces my sense that he brought Tenet out for what he is: a self-serving liar.
Sadly, I think his appearance, book, testimony, interviews, etc., after being run through the spin cycle, will do more good than harm for the Whitehouse.
A spook and conspirator he is. Why not take himself down another time and thereby exonerate the Whitehouse of all he is accusing them of? It stinks, stinks, stinks.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:42 pm“What “conservatives” dislike is not government per se, but anything that limits their own power. If an effective bureaucracy regulates their power away, they hate bureaucracy. If a trial lawyer holds them accountble for injuries they caused, they hate trial lawyers. Unless, of course, these institutions
can be corrupted to increase their power. Then, they like bureaucracy just fine.” -Jalamari at TPM Cafe on the subject of beurocracy
And he hits the nail on the head. So-called “conservatives” who are in reality nothing so much as dangerous unhinged radical anarchic sociopaths just love American beurocracy, which is in reality merely a creature of a hidden world government that operates without any regard for morality and has become an unbelievably bloated and ineffective juggernaut for anyone not part of the “system”, which exists for the sole purpose of extracting as much value from the private individual as possible. It is administered on an entirely arbitrary, capricious, and corrupt basis, and thus further accellerates the red-shift gap between those who have far more than enough and those from whom
April 29th, 2007 at 11:44 pmis taken even the means to generate anything at all to sustain themselves. The real welfare is the welfare extracted from citizens and appropriated by government for the benefit of the functionaries within the government and corporations. For anyone who participates in this wholesale fraud to call themselves a “public servant” is a laughable disgrace. Under this “system” almost a billion dollars in aid offered by our allies was never actually accepted or distributed to victims of Katrina, yet contracts for almost as much were then let to various private parties but
the Katrina debacle remains a disaster, over 45 million Americans still have no healthcare, the healthcare that most do receive is a deadly sham perpetrated by big pharma, many, many millions of working and elderly are every day arbitrarily and capriciously denied both private and government financial insurances which they earned and must have to survive, vast corporations cart off truckloads of cash through sweetheart deals while pushing micro, small, and even mid-sized independent businesses directly out of business, lobbyists are paid obscene sums with which they bribe politicians, and the average citizen is then subjected not only to endless “studies” of every variety, many unethical and inhumane to the extreme, but also a mind-boggling array of “rules and regulations” far in excess of any possible reasonable standard in our virtually lawless “society of laws”, ostensibly in order to “determine” exactly “why” they are having such a difficult time of things, while the minimum wage remains a very sick pathetic joke. Even the “enlightened” “Living Wage” is a tiny fraction of what rapacious corporate captains take in per hour. Perhaps if the entire system had not been deliberately subverted via the daily incestuous kabuki of the now entirely deregulated media into a process criminal to the core and rigged directly against the average person, then people would be able to make a decent living. The current scheme is akin to crippling an animal, then kicking and cursing it because it cannot stand. This supposed pinnacle of civilization was bestowed on us by the very same “conservative” folks, and even some sham “liberals” who rant and rave endless ad-hominems about the Responsibility & Values they never tire of accusing you of not having, all while picking your pockets clean and adjudging how best to foment even further divisions between every segment of society right down to the individual, the better to permit unfettered direct access by the mind-control state, to whom and for whom we exist as nothing but cannon fodder and cannibal-fare.
Bush to try to appease Tenet gave him a medal, but soon after Tenet realized he had been kicked out of the CIA and thrown under the bus.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:44 pmPatrick at # 5;
Please put your name to and post the following:
John Kerry is a true American Hero. That’s why he was given the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and three purple hearts.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:47 pmAdd to that all who used to work for Brewster Jennings, or their next of kin.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:48 pmJust once it would be appreciated to have one of these political flops take responsibility for their failures.
Mr. Slam Dunk Tenet, is it better to twist your words into meaning that the case for the Iraq war for public consumption could be made easily? Isn’t no intelligence on WMD simply that, NO intelligence to support a war.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:49 pmI am not sure why people are attacking him. Yes, he was culpable. However, he is the huge pain in Cheney’s a$$. Maybe I am an opportunist but I am all for him getting all the press he can.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:49 pmExactly, and well said IMPEACH CHENEY BUSH NOW, maybe some people can not relate this mind set to the likes of Jake A$$, and Patti 1″, Valiantdouchebag, Exlax, Sn(D)ale and the rest, and know what kind of subhuman scum we are going up against.
Speak to power….Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
April 29th, 2007 at 11:53 pmIt’s the least this spineless piece of human guano can do.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:56 pmi’m still concerned about all the members of the senate intelligence ( i use that term loosely) committee who knew the intelligence was different than what the w.h. was telling the american people. perhaps those committee members, republicans and democrats alike, should all donate half their earnings to the victims of bushes war.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:58 pmTenet sees the writing on the wall. He sees Investigations coming and he is trying to cover his ass pure and simple. As with most fanatical groups, the tendency to implode from within is great, and is happening before our eyes. These people are self-serving and could care less about anyone else, but themselves. Their (NeoCon) God complex view towards the world is twisted, and was always destined to fail. The issue still and has always been, how many more lives will it take before it stops.
war crime/war criminal n.
April 29th, 2007 at 11:58 pmn.
Any of various crimes, such as genocide or the mistreatment of prisoners of war, committed during a war and considered in violation of the conventions of warfare.
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mass murderer
n.
1. A person, especially a political or military leader, who is responsible for the deaths of many individuals.
2. A person who kills several or numerous victims in a single incident.
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trea·son(trzn)
n.
1. Violation of allegiance toward one’s country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one’s country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.
2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.
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trai·tor(trtr)
n.
One who betrays one’s country, a cause, or a trust, especially one who commits treason.
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ne·o·con(n-kn)
n. Informal
A group of people that will do all of the above.
28. Comment by JPark — Because he’s scum? Maybe because he is directly related to falsifying intelligence? Because he didn’t speak out as any moral human being would, and this action cost 700,000 people to have died because of it….hmmmm.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:04 am#33 Ok, I will agree with you on all that. And that makes him that much more dangerous to the Bushies.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:08 amNow can we impeach the idiot who appointed this fool?
April 30th, 2007 at 12:08 am#33 Of course you can stay on your high horse if you would like.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:08 amTenet is proving that he is just another lying psychopath from the Bush team.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:15 am“George Tenet is an honorable man. That’s why he was given the medal of freedom. Comment by Patrick1″
An honorable man given the metal of freedom by another honorable man, George Bush. What planet do you live on Patrick? It sounds like someone needs to adjust your meds, you are hallucinating again. George Bush and George Tenet are definitely NOT honorable men. Neither has a conscience and both are motivated by money rather than a need to do what is right.
I tried to watch the 60 Minutes segment but had to turn it off when Tenet was yelling at his interviewer about torture telling him “We do not torture”. I suggest we go get George and put him on that waterboard. Then let him say that they didn’t torture. But, he could have been telling the truth. His “we” could have been George and his wife and since neither of them torture people, he was technically telling the truth. These people make my head hurt.
Have you had enough yet? If so, it’s time to fight back. Call or write your congress people, daily if necessary until they hear us.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:18 amAmazing, simply utterly amazing.
I can’t help but notice the number of people who think Tenet is a lying scum bag except ironically when it affirms their opinion of President Bush or anyone else in the administration and then good time George is a paragon if virtue.
Such intellectual dishonesty is really appalling.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:22 am#39 Really con10, I would suggest your view is flawed. Tenet is a scumbag. However, his scumbaggery is dwarfed by your god’s and if it helps take Bush down I am all for it. It isn’t intellectual dishonesty, it is realism. But you guys don’t truck in realism, do you? You are still all for attacking Iran. Retards unite.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:26 amNow can we impeach the idiot who appointed this fool?
Comment by beefeater — April 30, 2007 @ 12:08 am
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No, but you can vote for his wife next year if she beats Obama.
Stop drinkin’ gin before class, man.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:27 amLet me put it this way, con10. You have a small time dealer. You bust him and turn him. You give him a deal for bringing in the source. Got it? Or do you not understand our justice system? By the way, I am, as far as I can tell I am the only one to defend Tenet. So your post was kind of “intellectually dishonest” since you attacked the whole board for it.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:31 am#41 You are an idiot stevesh. Thanks for the moronic post.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:31 am36. Comment by JPark — High horse? What the hell are you talking about?
Let me make something perfectly clear. I will always side with what is correct and moral. That is what seperates me from people like Tenet, Bush, Cheney. So if I’m riding a moral high horse so be it.
The information in this book isn’t new information. If you want a greater understanding you would probably want to read Scott Ritter’s work. At least there you won’t get a bunch of lies.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:44 amTITLE:19-03-97 CLINTON NOMINATES TENET TO HEAD CENTRAL INTELLIGENCE AGENCY
TEXT:
(Makes announcement before leaving for Helsinki Summit) (490)
By Wendy S. Ross
USIA White House Correspondent
Washington — President Clinton has named George Tenet to be Director
of Central Intelligence, replacing nominee Tony Lake who withdrew his
name from consideration in the midst his confirmation hearings before
the Senate Intelligence Committee.
Clinton announced the appointment at a news briefing in a White House
April 30th, 2007 at 12:47 amreception room late March 19, a few hours before his scheduled
departure from Washington for his summit meeting with Russian
President Boris Yeltsin in Helsinki.
#44 Yes, it IS new information. It is direct confirmation of what we have all suspected. Scott Ritter was right. Hans Blix was right. El Baredei was right. I knew that. However, one who was INSIDE the war room saying it is true means a whole lot more to the average moke that doesn’t bother doing his/her homework.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:50 am#45 Why do you post, stevesh?
April 30th, 2007 at 12:51 amComment by stevesh — Yea. The Clinton did it approach. What grade are you in Stevesh? 9th…10th grade? Mommy’s been listening to Rush since you were a baby….yep. Either support your argument or go back to the Seseme Street blog where Kermit won’t argue with you when you make claims regarding your fetishes for Miss Piggy.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:55 am#48 Are you kidding? He is a troll. He doesn’t back his sh!t up.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:58 am#48 I apologize for the high horse comment. It was uncalled for.
April 30th, 2007 at 12:58 amWe seem to believe loyalty to President is more Honorable than to its Constitution. We see this in Media and Press. Why did Tenet get his Medal again?
April 30th, 2007 at 12:59 am46. Comment by JPark – I fully understand your point, and support bringing down the Bush administration as soon as possible. But I don’t support Tenet as a person. I haven’t read the book, but what I have seen so far, Tenet is his own worst enemy, and this may not help the cause. I could be wrong, hopefully I am.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:02 amStevesh: The Clinton did it phrase is tunring into the You did to Clinton.
These investigatins will lead to impeachment and hopefully to death sentences.
For all the death your Chimp has caused its only right he gets to die on a gurney.
What goes around comes around. See Saddam.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:05 am#52 I think he was a part of the problem. However, if he is feeling the urge to tell all, I am not going to be the one to stop him. If he can speed up the return of our kids I am willing to give him a bit of a break. I don’t know what his motivation is but the result is likely to speed up the end of the war and I am all for that.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:08 am#52 I just don’t see any point in bashing him at this point if his book can do good. I hope his motivation is to bring an end to this occupation but even if it isn’t it could be used in that vein.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:09 amOn Tuesday May 1st, the United States will mark the fourth anniversary of President Bush’s declaration of “Mission Accomplished” in Iraq. But as the carnage continues and the war funding debate rages, President Bush and allies in the conservative amen corners can only offer the American people recycled talking points to sell his catastrophically ill-conceived war without end.
For a look back at four years of wartime marketing gone bad, see:
April 30th, 2007 at 1:10 am“Mission Accomplished: 4 Years of GOP Iraq Talking Points.”
49, Comment by JPark — Yea I know, but I like to have fun with them.
I have a different perspective on present day politics then most people. I feel that the NeoCon agenda is based in lies and because of their Straussian (Architect of Neo-Conservatism) believes cannot back down. They will go any extreme to push this Straussian agenda towards world governance. Public outcry doesn’t affect their agenda; in fact it emboldens them to move quicker to meet this end. They are truly fascistic in their believe system.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:11 am#48 Are you kidding? He is a troll. He doesn’t back his sh!t up.
Comment by JPark — April 30, 2007 @ 12:58 am
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Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI) September, 2002): “[Saddam] has ignored the mandates of the United Nations, is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them.â€
Sen. John Rockefeller (D-WV), October, 2002: “There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons. And will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years.â€
Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN), March, 2003: “Bill, I support the president’s efforts to disarm Saddam Hussein. I think he was right on in his speech tonight. The lessons we learned following September 11 were that we can’t wait to be attacked again, particularly when it involves weapons of mass destruction. So regrettably, Saddam has not done the right thing, which is to disarm, and we’re left with no alternative but to take action.â€
And Senator Majority Leader Harry Reid…
Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV), September, 2002: “Saddam Hussein, in effect, has thumbed his nose at the world community. And I think that the President’s approaching this in the right fashion.â€
April 30th, 2007 at 1:13 am#57 I am fully behind you on this. I love trolls. They are a whole lot of fun and blasting them is very cathartic.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:14 amComment by JPark — To “speed up the return of our kids ” is the goal. Regarding Tenet, or at least from my perspective, think of it this way; I can hate the person, but not kill the messenger. I think that makes sense? If there are revelations that come out of this book, then I’m all for it.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:16 am#58 Stevesh, or Patrick. Can you say anything without cutting and pasting from powerline?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:16 am#58 Maybe you could cut and paste from AP or Knight Ridder. Powerline isn’t going to score you any points, schmuck.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:17 am#60 I totally understand, JT. I do wonder if he is feeling bad now. Probably not, he should send all proceeds to a charity but I doubt he will.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:20 amBy the way, all. Stevesh=Patrick1
April 30th, 2007 at 1:21 amDoesn’t it stand to reason that every word Tenet has written or said had to be pre-approved by the Bush-Cheney cabal already? There are very few comforting answers to the obvious question of “Why now?” After three years of silence, it would seem that the timing of his appearance is serving one, or more likely several purposes for the White House et al. News events surfacing in the next few days or weeks may provide the answer…
April 30th, 2007 at 1:22 am#65 Why would you think that every word was pre-approved? I haven’t read it yet but do you think it is flattering to the Bushies?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:23 am58, Comment by stevesh — Thats kinda the point of this blog. Faulty intelligence between Tenet (CIA), and the Bush administration. I guess you didn’t see Dick Durbin’s remarks on the floor of the senate last week. Stevesh why don’t you talk instead of cut&paste your remarks?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:25 amGeorge J Tenet – A Brief History
April 30th, 2007 at 1:27 am1985-86: Senate Intelligence Committee staff member; directs the panel’s oversight of U.S.-Soviet arms control negotiations
1989-92: Senate Intelligence Committee staff director
1993: Joins President Clinton’s national security transition team; served as special assistant to the president and senior director of intelligence programs for the National Security Council
1995: Deputy director of the CIA, under John Deutch
1996-97: Acting director of the CIA
July 11, 1997: Assumes post of CIA director
December 12, 2002: Assured the President that the evidence against Saddam Hussein amounted to a “slam dunk case”
February 2004: President Bush says Tenet’s job is safe despite critics’ complaints about pre-war intelligence on Iraq
April 14, 2004: In testimony before the Sept. 11 commission, Tenet acknowledges intelligence failures prior to the terrorist attacks
June 3, 2004: President Bush announces Tenet’s resignation for “personal reasons”
Powerline or Counterpunch. Doesn’t matter. The quotes are real. Hillary’s got a few, also. ThinkProgress links to itself all the time.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:27 amHey JPark do you ever contribute anything constructive?
Sadly I think not; thugs like you don’t have original thoughts, you’re preoccupied with denigrating anyone with a view different from the one you just adopted.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:30 am#69 Stevey, Powerline takes Dem quotes out of context (or just makes them up if they can’t find a juicy one). Yeah, it does matter what you are plagiarizing.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:31 am#70 Oh, con10, are you stinging from the slapdown? I have been debating liberals on the Tenet book because I disagree. It has been rather eye opening. With you, though, it is lame. You never bring one valid point to any discussion. Once you bring an original thought to the discussion I will be happy to talk to you about it. Warning…if it is a Republican talking point I will flame you…again.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:34 amThey’re on video too. They said what they said.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:41 am#73 So, stevey, you are now using Dems to defend your position? They were just as big of fools as the losers that voted for Bush (you). It is funny when you losers say, well Clinton thought…because you usually use Clinton as your foil. Whatever he does is wrong but now “He thought they had WMD” so you use that as justification for your illegal war. If you were not a flaming hypocrite you would have been against invading Iraq considering the Clinton agreed with your justification. Do you understand that, Corky?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:45 am#66 — If Tenet didn’t provide at least a couple of slightly damaging pieces of information about Bush-Cheney, he wouldn’t be receiving any publicity. It doesn’t appear that the less than flattering comments would potentially inflict any serious damage to the current Administration, particularly with the MSM providing cover for them. Sometimes it may be preferable to circulate a mildly damaging version of events into the mainstream, where it will be repeated loudly and often through cable, television, newspapers, etc. until this version becomes commonly accepted fact. Then, if the real truth (which might be far more damaging) surfaces in the near future, most people will be less inclined to believe it, convinced that they already know the truth about the situation. In fact, isn’t this a time-honored strategy used by wealthy celebrities to get in front of a soon-to-be-released, potentially damaging story about a divorce, crime, or other sensational topic?
April 30th, 2007 at 1:46 am#75 Why would Bush-Cheney allow any “slightly damaging” pieces of information when they can’t really afford it right now? I don’t buy it. The guy has gone rogue. There is no other explanation.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:50 amOut of context?
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Statement of Senator John D. Rockefeller IV
on the Senate Floor
On the Iraq Resolution
October 10, 2002
MR. ROCKEFELLER: Mr. President, we are here today to debate one of the most difficult decisions I have had to make in my 18 years in the Senate. There is no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein is a despicable dictator, a war criminal, a regional menace, and a real and growing threat to the United States. The difficulty of this decision is that while Saddam Hussein represents a threat, each of the options for dealing with him poses serious risks, to America’s servicemembers, to our citizens, and to our role in the world.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:52 amhttp://www.senate.gov/~rockefeller/news/2002/flrstmt0102002.html
#75 I haven’t read the book. Is it generally positive about the Bush admin? If so, you might have a point. I kinda doubt that is the fact though.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:53 am#77 Ok, so? Is the statement by a Senator grounds for an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation? No, I didn’t think so. You keep trying to blame everybody else for your king’s fuc%ups but it isn’t working. Bush invaded Iraq. Deal with it.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:55 am#33 Of course you can stay on your high horse if you would like.
(But that’s my place!)
April 30th, 2007 at 1:56 am#77 Quote Feingold. He is my Senator.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:56 am#80 Oh, I LOVE being namejacked!! Pu$$y.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:58 amComment by stevesh — April 30, 2007 @ 1:41 am
Comment by stevesh — April 30, 2007 @ 1:52 am
It doesn’t matter what these people said or thought during the run-up of the invasion of Iraq. They didn’t order the invasion and this most catastrophic occupation of a country that was not a threat to the US, over the objections of the UN, and the reluctance of the traditional European allies.
These people didn’t insult, berate, and degrade those who didn’t agree with them on their decision to impose “regime change” on Iraq, compromising the US’ diplomatic standing in the world. I would also mention secret renditions, torture, secret prisons, illegal wiretapping, etc. but you understand my point -I hope.
The one person at whose feet he responsibility ultimately rests is the Dear (mis)Leader, The Decider himself. His minions are also to blame for blindly giving support to an administration whose performance is one of the poorest in US history.
Stop trying to spread the blame. Be a man and face the consequences of your own decision to support a failed administration and its military misadventure.
April 30th, 2007 at 1:59 am#83 That would be a stretch…assuming stevo was a man.
April 30th, 2007 at 2:01 amDave Sirota On Just One Montana Example Of How The Supposedly “Liberal” Press Is Anything But Fair Or Balanced:
“Then there’s the treating of Republican extremism as barely an afterthought – as if it’s just sort of what we should all expect and accept. Specifically, Dennison correctly bemoans the “monumental failure” of the (Montana) legislature refusing to pass a budget and thus forcing a special session – but only at the very end of the story does he happen to mention that “the key spending and tax bills, which had to pass if a final resolution was to occur, were in the hands of the Republican-controlled House two weeks ago” but Republican House Speaker Scott Sales “refused even to allow these bills to go a House-Senate conference committee, where work on a compromise could begin.” He also waits until the very end of the story to casually mention that after agreeing to a compromise with Democrats, House Republican Majority Leader
April 30th, 2007 at 2:12 amMichael Lange held a televised press event to curse off the governor. That’s right, folks – we are expected to believe that the chief Republican negotiator making himself a national embarrassment by pulling a televised Andrew Dice Clay Live! impression in the basement of the Capitol at the 11h hour is worthy of barely a bottom-of-the-story footnote, as is Dennison’s throwaway line that the Republican antics “simply wasted
valuable time.” Yet the real story is obvious. These antics didn’t just “waste valuable time” – they are the whole key to understanding exactly what happened. A Democratic governor submitted his budget, House Republicans gutted that budget and sent it to the Senate, the Senate sent it back to the House with its changes for final ratification – but the lunatic Republican leadership refused to allow a vote on it, thus forcing a budget crisis. But because the press simply accepts as mundane and non-newsworthy that Republican leaders are fringe lunatics the media comes up with intricate storylines portraying failures as “bipartisan” – all put forward under the guise of “objectivity.” It’s fine that Republicans started out the entire session saying they wanted to create a “war” with Democrats. It’s fine that their leader spazzed out and cursed off the state’s top official in front of a room full of press and 16-year-old pages. That’s what Republicans are supposed to do – and they shouldn’t be
blamed for that, Democrats should be blamed for trying to stop it. You can bet we’ll be seeing this exact thing (or probably worse) this coming week when the President vetoes the Iraq war spending bill, even though polls show the Democratic language calling for a timetable is supported by the vast majority of the American pubic. You watch – every single story will be written in a way that simply accepts Republican lunacy as normal and not noteworthy, while subtly questioning why Democrats – or the public – should expect anything different.”
These people didn’t insult, berate, and degrade those who didn’t agree with them….
Comment by Gregor Samsa — April 30, 2007 @ 1:59 am
#83 That would be a stretch…assuming stevo was a man.
Comment by JPark — April 30, 2007 @ 2:01 am
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Humani nihil a me alienum puto. I’m a Stoic. QED
April 30th, 2007 at 2:24 amComment by stevesh — April 30, 2007 @ 2:24 am
I am not sure you even understand what you are trying to say.
April 30th, 2007 at 2:48 amComment by stevesh — April 30, 2007 @ 2:24 am
You blame democrats, because the GOP propaganda machine successfully misrepresented, misconstrued and even fabricated evidence? I suppose you’d blame anyone who was robbed, for getting robbed as well?
You’re an idiot and a fool.
April 30th, 2007 at 2:48 amHumani nihil a me alienum puto. I’m a Stoic. QED
Comment by stevesh — April 30, 2007 @ 2:24 am
You forgot the first part of the quote, idiot.
homo sum; humani nihil a me alienum puto
“I am a man; and I consider nothing that concerns mankind a matter of indifference to me.”
Although the only thing that you seem concerned about is blaming those that spoke out using what we now know was fabricated and spin doctored evidence. How sad. Because if you really were concerned for the matters of men, you’d want to get to the bottom of how/why and who fabricated this intelligence to drive us into such a useless war that so far has only benefited defense contractor friends of BushCo, and Osama – who’s organization has grown tremendously thanks to the actions of BushCo. The same BushCo that seems unconcerned with capturing him, curious.
April 30th, 2007 at 2:53 amI suggest that others should look into the financial history of G. Tenet. I am sure you will find that he has been feed very well by those who support this administration and those in the White House.
The part of the interview I found enlightening was when he said I knew it was Osama bin Laden who attack us. Scott Pelley question him, “Wait, you knew it was Osama, how could you know this?”
I think he gave it away right there, Condi didn’t care about intellegence reports of threats to hit tall building with planes that Tenet show her.
The White House knew they were going to attack us and they did nothing!
Tenet said he knew right when it happened. This says to me that he knew that the White House was allowing it to happen.
That is my take
April 30th, 2007 at 3:21 am:-0
Why only half?
April 30th, 2007 at 6:37 amTenet is speaking after the facts,where he should have spoken before the war started, just like Colin Powell who realized that he was wrong after he left his office and the war ignited…
No wonder they were both together at the UN convincing the world of Saddam WMDS which didn’t exist.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:12 amIf there were mistakes made,Tenet was silent where he should have spoken…just like Powell who is now making speeches and pocketing hundreds of thousands of dollars every years since he left office,and now comes Tenet’s book.
the “decent” thing to do? Unfortunately, George Tenet is NOT a “decent” man. He’s totally complicit (by omission) since he knew precisely that the White House was lying about the connection of Iraq to 911 and did not speak out then. Actually, it can be said that he, along with the Bush Cabal, have the blood of our soldiers on their hands and souls….George Tenet did more yesterday on 60 minutes to indict himself, along with Bush et al, than he even realized. His reputation is that of an “enabler” who aided and abetted the Great Lie called the Iraq War.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:25 amAs well, George Tenet looked absolutely rapid in his interview. When the interviewer touched on the torture aspect, he became demented for everyone to witness. This is a very sick man. The only reason he’s writing this book is to attempt to exonerate himself and distance himself from the criminal wrongdoings of this administration; however, it won’t work. Guilt is determined by “comission” as well as “omission” and sitting there enabling and agreeing with the parading of lies to congress and the american people makes Tenet a liar, a pariah, and a criminal just like his contemporaries in the white house.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:28 amRabid…..Rabid….and rapid, too. His speech was so hysterical, hurried, and programmed that it felt as though he were attempting to shove his concepts down everyone’s throats. Sicko is the only way to describe this whimp who now is coming forward like a coward instead of coming forward when the lies were being spun.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:29 amNot that I agree with Mr. Tenet’s McNamara moment, but if you have time go read Ron Suskind’s book “The one percent doctrine”. It all comes back to NO ONE, NO ONE, challenging Richard Cheney.
April 30th, 2007 at 7:46 amWhat does it do to America and the world,after this big costly and contineous war in Iraq that Tenet now speaking out?!
He was one of the most important chess pieces in this war game,but now to put what he thinks in a book does not do it….
He should have spoken before…Congress should subpoena him to testify…and to bring his published book with him…
April 30th, 2007 at 8:01 am3350
April 30th, 2007 at 8:03 amU.S. April death toll in Iraq passes 100 deadliest month of this year
April 30th, 2007 at 8:06 amThats how Bush loyals make money by laundering immaginary book sales
April 30th, 2007 at 8:09 amMy concern is why only half? What right does Tenet have to profit from being a traitor and keeping his mouth shut for 3 years? As a Christian, I have to forgive him. As a sinner, I cannot forget what he has done.
Peace!
PJ
April 30th, 2007 at 8:10 amgeorge tenet should familiarize himself with seppuku
April 30th, 2007 at 8:10 amTenet’s book is actually a diversion at this time, because he still praises Pres. Bush Junior who is responsible for everything bad. Tenet slapping Condi Rice is just a turf battle, since he got canned and she remained. He is bitter that he lost his suck-up job at the CIA, but he is still afraid to tell the real truth about Bush and Cheney.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:22 amis anyone else tired of these people who should have done something at the time but instead waited until later to make their objections to the war known? Colin Powell, I am looking in your direction…
April 30th, 2007 at 8:32 amAlso notice that Tenet has trashed his former boss Clinton repeatedly, even though Bill appointed him as CIA Director and defended Tenet when he was responsible for bombing the Chinese Embassy in Belgrade, Serbia, during the Kosovo conflict. Tenet’s CIA supposedly relied on an old map of Belgrade that showed a government ministry building in that location, but the building had been torn down and the Chinese Embassy put in its place. China almost declared war on the US over the incident, but Clinton contacted China to apologize, told them the US would pay to rebuild the embassy, and he said the US would pay restitution for every embassy staff member that was killed. Clinton should have fired Tenet for that mistake, but he stood by him. Tenet repayed Clinton by trashing him and becoming a stooge for Bush Junior.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:35 amIf Mike Gravel commented that the other candidates on the stage “scare him”, I wonder how he would view the newest Bushie Psychopath Du Jour: George Tenet?? Yikes! This guy was downright frightening.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:47 amGeorge Tenet has the blood of 3350 American soldiers on his hands. No amount of money gained from his attempt to purge his conscience will wash that away. He could have resigned at any time and told the truth about what was going on.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:51 amJay Randal: I believe americans saw firsthand precisely what Tenet’s connection to Bush actually is: They’re cut frome the same cloth of brainwashed idiots. And, with each of them, there’s absolutely no room for anyone else’s point of view as evidenced in Tenet’s continued shoving down everyone’s throat the fact that “we don’t torture” when, in fact, we have been and do. In the event Tenet doesn’t realize it, Waterboarding, has been defined as “torture”.
Tenet’s personal need to be “right” now is a combination of his culpability eating at him constantly, the Administration’s kicking him to the curb (something which an egomaniac simply cannot tolerate) as well as his agregious and pathological “need” to be “right”…..the same mental disorder from which Bush suffers.
I’d say Tenet and Bush are “two peas in a pod” – an infested, diseased and rapidly rotting pod. Tenet is coming up for air for the third time before the people smash him down for total “complicity” in the Iraq War.
When Tenet testifies before Congress, he will surely indict himself even further with what he knew, when he knew it, and what he chose to cover up….resulting in the genocide of over 3,000 american soldiers. His hands are as bloody in this as Cheney’s, Rice’s and Bush’s.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:52 amTenet’s book money is pure American “blood money”. I hope he someday rots in hell.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:52 am#58,
That is based on the information made available to them by this corrupt administration. Who would have thought that Cheney would be in the bowels of the CIA massaging information for his cause to go to war.
They created the lies and disseminated them to congress.
April 30th, 2007 at 8:56 amgeorge tenet should familiarize himself with seppuku
Comment by linda — April 30, 2007 @ 8:10 am
It takes honor to do that.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:02 amThe other half should go to innocent Iraqi women and children. THen you should go on tv and tell all. We need to hear it from you as none of the other chicken littles have any guts.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:02 amveritas > Tenet was a willing Bush stooge, and would willingly return to the CIA to continue being his stooge, but Bush has thrown him under the bus and no longer needs him. Notice that Tenet still refuses to trash Bush, so he is a cur-dog who enjoys being kicked by his master.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:02 am“That would be the decent and honorable thing to do.”
Damn straight it would be the decent and honorable thing to do, and therefore there ain’t a snowball’s chance in Hell Tenet will do it.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:11 amNo amount of money gained from his attempt to purge his conscience will wash that away.?
April 30th, 2007 at 9:21 amI don,t understand this comment.
please elaborate Candyce ?
#107. Comment by Candyce — April 30, 2007 @ 8:51 am
April 30th, 2007 at 9:25 amNo amount of money gained from his attempt to purge his conscience will wash that away.?
I don,t understand this comment.
please elaborate Candyce ?
Sorry for the duplicate.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:26 amMr. Tenet:
Please be advised that I would like your home address so that I may deliver 1 measured cup of each soldiers blood that has died. That you take ALL profit from your crimes and turn them over to the brain injured soldiers.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:31 amEnraged by all the LIES!
A Soldier’s Mother
I don,t understand this comment.
please elaborate Candyce ?
Comment by GoTFreeDominian
Isn’t he selling a book?
April 30th, 2007 at 9:32 am#26 BnF
Add to that all who used to work for Brewster Jennings, or their next of kin.
That reminds me. Pelley tried to ask him about what “damage” might have been done by Plame’s outing. Tenet got a whiff of where he was going with the question and he jumped all over it. Tenet said he wasn’t going there and, in essence, it was all water under the bridge and that’s all he was going to say about it.
So, there’s no reason for the CIA to conduct a damage assessment? No reason to let the House and Senate Intelligence committees know how bad our intelligence operations were hurt by Cheney, Libby, and Rove’s little political payback maneuver? What an irresponsible schmuck that guy is. The least he could do is drag someone else down with him. Condi, perhaps? Cheney or Bush would be better.
April 30th, 2007 at 9:48 am#58 stevesh
Yeah, that was pretty silly of those Democrats to believe Bush. They should have known he was a pathological liar from way back. Do these guys ever do their homework? It’s embarassing when members of my own party get duped like that, especially when they get duped by a borderline retard.
But, your point is well taken. Nobody should believe anything Bush says, even if he is the president.
By the way, I think Tenet was one of Clinton’s poorer appointees. But, I take it you think Clinton made a good move with that one?
April 30th, 2007 at 9:58 amAn old saying: If you sleep with dogs, then expect to wake-up with fleas. Tenet slept with the Bush Regime, so he screwed himself.
April 30th, 2007 at 10:10 amA lot of what Tenet said has me thinking the interview (and subsequent book) is yet another shiney key to divert from stunning revelations elsewhere. Tenet said shortly after 9/11, he found the two (so-called) Arab pilots names (that he was warned about) on the American Airlines manifest. I’ve read HUNDREDS of times that none of the 19 hijackers were ever listed on any of the 4 planes’ manifests. Did he find them because he was the CIA chief and that info remains hidden to everybody else?
April 30th, 2007 at 10:30 am9/11 was an inside job so whatever Tenent said last night was 100% USDA bovine excrement.
George. Your participation in unseating Saddam Hussein and attempting to promote a new democracy in Iraq are unconscionable. Donate all the money you have to Al Gore to stop global warming. It would be the only honorable thing for you to do.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:31 amNot to defend Bush, but just for the recored, Bush didn’t appoint Tenet, Clinton did.
April 30th, 2007 at 11:39 amhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tenet
Tenet cares more about himself, than being a honorable man.
Isn’t that the definition of Republicanism?
April 30th, 2007 at 2:52 pm