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		<title>By: upright left</title>
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		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 19:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still believe that the conservatives are much less likely to consider differences of opinions than are liberals. 
Comment by Democrat Soldier â€” April 30, 2007 @ 11:52

You may be right on this one.  Righties are much more likely to believe that there is such a thing as right and wrong.   Liberals &quot;find there own truth.&quot;


&quot;Yeah, and nobody is tracking your posts here so donâ€™t worry, just keep spewing.
I was just wondering why you come to a site that doesnâ€™t agree with your political leanings instead of going some place where people agree with you. Would you like to answer or just keep dodging the issue.
Comment by Shane â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:10 pm

lol, no shane, no body is watching me.  It&#039;s just you THEY are after.  I come here for the DIVERSITY of opinion.  C&#039;mon shane, you should have guessed that one, Bud.  Just like you seek diversity of opinion rather than listening to only one side of an issue.

#95. Really? Which ones? How many? What percentage of liberals? If youâ€™re not making a statement about liberals in general, what is your point? I took at as a general statement about liberals wanting one world government. 

By the way, Iâ€™m glad to see you using a dictionary. Keep it handy.

Comment by chimpeach â€” April 30, 2007 @ 2:22 pm


Chimpy, my statement was most definitely a generalization.  Still true, though.  Check out Robert Muller and his Idea Dreams for a Better World, Parliamentarians for Global Action which is supported by Kucinich, Tom Harkin and Barney Franks among others.  Also, try Citizens for Global Solutions.  The latter two aren&#039;t currently openly seeking one world government.  If you read enough on their sites, you see that they acknowledge that there isn&#039;t currently enough political support for that. So they are currently pushing &quot;globalization&quot; instead.   
You lost me on the dictionary comment.  I can&#039;t say as I&#039;ve had need of a dictionary for a couple months.

#92. &quot; guess that means that in November of 2006, the majority of Republicans woke up to the fact that the neo-cons have hijacked their party, and moved so far to the right that rather than normally supporting the Republican party were so sickened by the culture of corruption that the Bush Administration fostered in the White House and Washington DC, they voted for Democrats to help put things back on an even keel.
Comment by Democrat Soldier â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:43

Tsk, tsk, tsk,   Demo, you aren&#039;t even trying, now.  There wasn&#039;t a major defection of Republicans.  Remeber all the Democrats that have been voting Republican in the last few elections because the Democratic Party moved so far left?  They were so disillusioned with the war that they voted Dem this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still believe that the conservatives are much less likely to consider differences of opinions than are liberals.<br />
Comment by Democrat Soldier â€” April 30, 2007 @ 11:52</p>
<p>You may be right on this one.  Righties are much more likely to believe that there is such a thing as right and wrong.   Liberals &#8220;find there own truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Yeah, and nobody is tracking your posts here so donâ€™t worry, just keep spewing.<br />
I was just wondering why you come to a site that doesnâ€™t agree with your political leanings instead of going some place where people agree with you. Would you like to answer or just keep dodging the issue.<br />
Comment by Shane â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:10 pm</p>
<p>lol, no shane, no body is watching me.  It&#8217;s just you THEY are after.  I come here for the DIVERSITY of opinion.  C&#8217;mon shane, you should have guessed that one, Bud.  Just like you seek diversity of opinion rather than listening to only one side of an issue.</p>
<p>#95. Really? Which ones? How many? What percentage of liberals? If youâ€™re not making a statement about liberals in general, what is your point? I took at as a general statement about liberals wanting one world government. </p>
<p>By the way, Iâ€™m glad to see you using a dictionary. Keep it handy.</p>
<p>Comment by chimpeach â€” April 30, 2007 @ 2:22 pm</p>
<p>Chimpy, my statement was most definitely a generalization.  Still true, though.  Check out Robert Muller and his Idea Dreams for a Better World, Parliamentarians for Global Action which is supported by Kucinich, Tom Harkin and Barney Franks among others.  Also, try Citizens for Global Solutions.  The latter two aren&#8217;t currently openly seeking one world government.  If you read enough on their sites, you see that they acknowledge that there isn&#8217;t currently enough political support for that. So they are currently pushing &#8220;globalization&#8221; instead.<br />
You lost me on the dictionary comment.  I can&#8217;t say as I&#8217;ve had need of a dictionary for a couple months.</p>
<p>#92. &#8221; guess that means that in November of 2006, the majority of Republicans woke up to the fact that the neo-cons have hijacked their party, and moved so far to the right that rather than normally supporting the Republican party were so sickened by the culture of corruption that the Bush Administration fostered in the White House and Washington DC, they voted for Democrats to help put things back on an even keel.<br />
Comment by Democrat Soldier â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:43</p>
<p>Tsk, tsk, tsk,   Demo, you aren&#8217;t even trying, now.  There wasn&#8217;t a major defection of Republicans.  Remeber all the Democrats that have been voting Republican in the last few elections because the Democratic Party moved so far left?  They were so disillusioned with the war that they voted Dem this time.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3779862', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Saywho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saywho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 00:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Comment by katy â€” April 30, 2007 @ 8:10 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Nice effort... This trumps all that..............


I decided that Edwards in my opinion is ta da  A BUMB back in 2004 though I did vote for him... go figure!  Got that sweets?</description>
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<p>Nice effort&#8230; This trumps all that&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>I decided that Edwards in my opinion is ta da  A BUMB back in 2004 though I did vote for him&#8230; go figure!  Got that sweets?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3778288', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 00:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i feel now it is within my rights to say that saywho is an ass...
it&#039;s just how i feel about that... 

&lt;em&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Campaign feud continues over Cheney&#039;s daughter
Mary Cheney finds herself in eye of political storm&lt;/strong&gt;
	
WASHINGTON - Mary Cheney typically works quietly behind the scenes on her fatherâ€™s vice presidential campaign, but she was dragged front-and-center after John Kerry noted that she is a lesbian during his debate with President Bush.

&lt;strong&gt;Her parents were furious at Kerry.&lt;/strong&gt; But others who have publicly navigated the waters of politics and homosexuality say Vice President Dick Cheney and his wife may have overreacted to what Kerry called an attempt to compliment them on how they have dealt with having a lesbian daughter.

&lt;strong&gt;The Cheneys went on the attack immediately after the debate,&lt;/strong&gt; where Kerry had suggested their daughterâ€™s sexual identity was formed at birth.
[...]
â€œLynne and I have a gay daughter, so itâ€™s an issue our family is very familiar with,â€ Cheney said in Davenport, Iowa.

&lt;strong&gt;And the vice president stated no objection when Edwards, a North Carolina senator, brought up Mary Cheney during their debate last week.&lt;/strong&gt; Edwards expressed â€œrespect for the fact that theyâ€™re willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. Itâ€™s a wonderful thing.â€

&lt;strong&gt;Cheney thanked his opponent for the â€œkind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much.â€&lt;/strong&gt;

So why was Cheneyâ€™s reaction so different this week?

It may be partly that Kerry is the presidential, not the vice presidential, candidate, so the stakes are higher [...]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6254301/&lt;/em&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i feel now it is within my rights to say that saywho is an ass&#8230;<br />
it&#8217;s just how i feel about that&#8230; </p>
<p><em><strong>Campaign feud continues over Cheney&#8217;s daughter<br />
Mary Cheney finds herself in eye of political storm</strong></p>
<p>WASHINGTON &#8211; Mary Cheney typically works quietly behind the scenes on her fatherâ€™s vice presidential campaign, but she was dragged front-and-center after John Kerry noted that she is a lesbian during his debate with President Bush.</p>
<p><strong>Her parents were furious at Kerry.</strong> But others who have publicly navigated the waters of politics and homosexuality say Vice President Dick Cheney and his wife may have overreacted to what Kerry called an attempt to compliment them on how they have dealt with having a lesbian daughter.</p>
<p><strong>The Cheneys went on the attack immediately after the debate,</strong> where Kerry had suggested their daughterâ€™s sexual identity was formed at birth.<br />
[...]<br />
â€œLynne and I have a gay daughter, so itâ€™s an issue our family is very familiar with,â€ Cheney said in Davenport, Iowa.</p>
<p><strong>And the vice president stated no objection when Edwards, a North Carolina senator, brought up Mary Cheney during their debate last week.</strong> Edwards expressed â€œrespect for the fact that theyâ€™re willing to talk about the fact that they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. Itâ€™s a wonderful thing.â€</p>
<p><strong>Cheney thanked his opponent for the â€œkind words he said about my family and our daughter. I appreciate that very much.â€</strong></p>
<p>So why was Cheneyâ€™s reaction so different this week?</p>
<p>It may be partly that Kerry is the presidential, not the vice presidential, candidate, so the stakes are higher [...]</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6254301/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6254301/</a></em><br />
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		<title>By: Saywho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saywho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 23:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;i could be mistaken myselfâ€¦

Comment by katy â€” April 30, 2007 @ 6:15 pm&lt;/em&gt;

Yes as usual Katy you are mistaken and ignorant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>i could be mistaken myselfâ€¦</p>
<p>Comment by katy â€” April 30, 2007 @ 6:15 pm</em></p>
<p>Yes as usual Katy you are mistaken and ignorant.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3778197', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 22:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>barfly - could it be that saywho is confused, even mistaken? (being nice)

i seem to recall that darth was rather appreciative of edward&#039;s comments about the gay daughter... 
it was kerry who tried but didn&#039;t get away with it... much ado about nuttn&#039;...

i could be mistaken myself...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>barfly &#8211; could it be that saywho is confused, even mistaken? (being nice)</p>
<p>i seem to recall that darth was rather appreciative of edward&#8217;s comments about the gay daughter&#8230;<br />
it was kerry who tried but didn&#8217;t get away with it&#8230; much ado about nuttn&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>i could be mistaken myself&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3778058', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: VanAllen</title>
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		<dc:creator>VanAllen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:46:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is not honorable to publicize one&#039;s spouses medical condition.  It is no honorable to dengrate our  troops in harms way!  It is not honorable to say the war is lost while some are losing their lives!  It is not honorable to conduct International policy while speaker of the house!  It is not honorable to extort facts for political money under the guise of global warming!   It is not honorable to denigrate this country&#039;s reputation because you believe in socialism!  It is not honorable to cheat on your wife!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is not honorable to publicize one&#8217;s spouses medical condition.  It is no honorable to dengrate our  troops in harms way!  It is not honorable to say the war is lost while some are losing their lives!  It is not honorable to conduct International policy while speaker of the house!  It is not honorable to extort facts for political money under the guise of global warming!   It is not honorable to denigrate this country&#8217;s reputation because you believe in socialism!  It is not honorable to cheat on your wife!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777997', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Saywho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saywho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 21:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;She was the â€œgay spokespersonâ€ for a major american brewer; her sexuality wasnâ€™t a secret. Your fake disdain for Edwards masks a truer disdain for gays. Otherwise, why be bothered about her being unmasked for something she openly touted? Methinks thou dost protest too much.

Comment by barfly â€” April 30, 2007 @ 4:27 pm&lt;/em&gt;

She is someone not running for office being mentioned by an opponent. Edwards did something we would expect Cheney to do by using low blows, dirt and gossip. It is true that the Bush position is insane, so there was no point in Edwards joining in with poor taste of his own. By the way barfly, I voted Democratic in 2004, I didn&#039;t like Edwards and since Kerry was related to Bush I assumed correctly that the whole thing was fixed. 

Now to your comment: 

I will have words with you and call you names like IDIOT, ANUS, STUPID and anything else you can imagine but it I were to bring up your wife&#039;s drinking habit and her being a slut during my campaign that is what Edwards did and I don&#039;t have to like gays to understand that there are things best not done when image is everything. Edwards participated with the same sort of mudslinging as Bush &amp; Co. but they needed to appear more honorable than the Bush team...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>She was the â€œgay spokespersonâ€ for a major american brewer; her sexuality wasnâ€™t a secret. Your fake disdain for Edwards masks a truer disdain for gays. Otherwise, why be bothered about her being unmasked for something she openly touted? Methinks thou dost protest too much.</p>
<p>Comment by barfly â€” April 30, 2007 @ 4:27 pm</em></p>
<p>She is someone not running for office being mentioned by an opponent. Edwards did something we would expect Cheney to do by using low blows, dirt and gossip. It is true that the Bush position is insane, so there was no point in Edwards joining in with poor taste of his own. By the way barfly, I voted Democratic in 2004, I didn&#8217;t like Edwards and since Kerry was related to Bush I assumed correctly that the whole thing was fixed. </p>
<p>Now to your comment: </p>
<p>I will have words with you and call you names like IDIOT, ANUS, STUPID and anything else you can imagine but it I were to bring up your wife&#8217;s drinking habit and her being a slut during my campaign that is what Edwards did and I don&#8217;t have to like gays to understand that there are things best not done when image is everything. Edwards participated with the same sort of mudslinging as Bush &amp; Co. but they needed to appear more honorable than the Bush team&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777938', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: barfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>barfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 20:27:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me this summed up Edwardsâ€™ character in a blink of an eye. He is the type to say anything to get what he wants even if it is in poor taste. I donâ€™t like Cheney but Edwards failed to rise above the dirt. To me he was a poor choice for the Vice President position so then he is an even worse choice for the Big Deskâ€¦

I could go on but the point is made!

Comment by Saywho
 
She was the &quot;gay spokesperson&quot; for a major american brewer; her sexuality wasn&#039;t a secret.  Your fake disdain for Edwards masks a truer disdain for gays.  Otherwise, why be bothered about her being unmasked for something she openly touted?  Methinks thou dost protest too much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me this summed up Edwardsâ€™ character in a blink of an eye. He is the type to say anything to get what he wants even if it is in poor taste. I donâ€™t like Cheney but Edwards failed to rise above the dirt. To me he was a poor choice for the Vice President position so then he is an even worse choice for the Big Deskâ€¦</p>
<p>I could go on but the point is made!</p>
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<p>She was the &#8220;gay spokesperson&#8221; for a major american brewer; her sexuality wasn&#8217;t a secret.  Your fake disdain for Edwards masks a truer disdain for gays.  Otherwise, why be bothered about her being unmasked for something she openly touted?  Methinks thou dost protest too much.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777792', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:53:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank&#039;s Saywho, guess all I can say is Damn, another one hit the dust...Since I am a bleeding heart libral that believes in the constitution I won&#039;t go with any one anti gun or anti any thing in our constitution, especiely since I am an avid shooter and gun owner...What they need to do is take the gun&#039;s away from the gangs and bad guy&#039;s, which requires more police not more legislation and surrender of gun&#039;s from ordinary citizen&#039;s...Oh well.! back to square one on the pick&#039;s for pres..Your correct Katy, didn&#039;t we have this conversation before the 2006 election.? I think so..I won&#039;t let ya down....Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank&#8217;s Saywho, guess all I can say is Damn, another one hit the dust&#8230;Since I am a bleeding heart libral that believes in the constitution I won&#8217;t go with any one anti gun or anti any thing in our constitution, especiely since I am an avid shooter and gun owner&#8230;What they need to do is take the gun&#8217;s away from the gangs and bad guy&#8217;s, which requires more police not more legislation and surrender of gun&#8217;s from ordinary citizen&#8217;s&#8230;Oh well.! back to square one on the pick&#8217;s for pres..Your correct Katy, didn&#8217;t we have this conversation before the 2006 election.? I think so..I won&#8217;t let ya down&#8230;.Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777607', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chimpeach</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:34:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87 vv

&lt;em&gt;And please, please, please donâ€™t flatter yourself by saying anyone wants to become â€œliberal like youâ€ Just because you canâ€™t conceive of a true Independent, donâ€™t deny they exist.&lt;/em&gt;

We&#039;re awfully presumptuous today, aren&#039;t we. I don&#039;t doubt for a minute that independents exist. I saw how they shifted in the last couple of elections, especially last year&#039;s, away from the loony right. They&#039;ve found a lot more to like about the Democrats than the Republicans. Most independents are against Bush&#039;s plan to keep troops in Iraq forever. Most of them have seen through Bush&#039;s bullshit for a long time. On top of that, more people identify themselves as Democrats now than a few years ago. And, certainly more of them identify as Democrats than Republicans now.

But, when you&#039;ve got your lips pressed firmly against Bush&#039;s behind, it&#039;s tough for you to make a credible case that you&#039;re some kind of an independent. Kind of a stetch, don&#039;t you think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87 vv</p>
<p><em>And please, please, please donâ€™t flatter yourself by saying anyone wants to become â€œliberal like youâ€ Just because you canâ€™t conceive of a true Independent, donâ€™t deny they exist.</em></p>
<p>We&#8217;re awfully presumptuous today, aren&#8217;t we. I don&#8217;t doubt for a minute that independents exist. I saw how they shifted in the last couple of elections, especially last year&#8217;s, away from the loony right. They&#8217;ve found a lot more to like about the Democrats than the Republicans. Most independents are against Bush&#8217;s plan to keep troops in Iraq forever. Most of them have seen through Bush&#8217;s bullshit for a long time. On top of that, more people identify themselves as Democrats now than a few years ago. And, certainly more of them identify as Democrats than Republicans now.</p>
<p>But, when you&#8217;ve got your lips pressed firmly against Bush&#8217;s behind, it&#8217;s tough for you to make a credible case that you&#8217;re some kind of an independent. Kind of a stetch, don&#8217;t you think?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777558', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: katy</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/thinkfast-april-30-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-3777530</link>
		<dc:creator>katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;the report came out todayâ€“ shows that there is no military solution to what is a political problem.&lt;/em&gt;

as with most, if not all, of the ME...
also, understood about obama&#039;s measured words...
i&#039;ll keep listening...

&lt;em&gt;And again, this is why I have hope in an Obama presidency. He can bring the most hostile people together and find common ground. As Rabin said, you donâ€™t talk peace with your friend, you talk peace with your enemy.
Comment by david â€” April 30, 2007 @ 1:09 pm&lt;/em&gt;

i&#039;m hopeful also... i&#039;m sure he will be president someday - if not this round, then the next... IF the dems can get back the presidency...
and the only way that will happen is OVERWHELMING VOTER TURNOUT...
remember that one?... more important than ever...

what do you think all those attorney purges were about? ... i&#039;m convinced it all goes back to the repugs trying to steel this election... 
with the judges on your side, how could you loose?...

OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT ... that&#039;s how...

you can do it your way next time, sharon... 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>the report came out todayâ€“ shows that there is no military solution to what is a political problem.</em></p>
<p>as with most, if not all, of the ME&#8230;<br />
also, understood about obama&#8217;s measured words&#8230;<br />
i&#8217;ll keep listening&#8230;</p>
<p><em>And again, this is why I have hope in an Obama presidency. He can bring the most hostile people together and find common ground. As Rabin said, you donâ€™t talk peace with your friend, you talk peace with your enemy.<br />
Comment by david â€” April 30, 2007 @ 1:09 pm</em></p>
<p>i&#8217;m hopeful also&#8230; i&#8217;m sure he will be president someday &#8211; if not this round, then the next&#8230; IF the dems can get back the presidency&#8230;<br />
and the only way that will happen is OVERWHELMING VOTER TURNOUT&#8230;<br />
remember that one?&#8230; more important than ever&#8230;</p>
<p>what do you think all those attorney purges were about? &#8230; i&#8217;m convinced it all goes back to the repugs trying to steel this election&#8230;<br />
with the judges on your side, how could you loose?&#8230;</p>
<p>OVERWHELMING DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURNOUT &#8230; that&#8217;s how&#8230;</p>
<p>you can do it your way next time, sharon&#8230;<br />
:-)<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777530', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Saywho</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saywho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Saywho, do you have any linkâ€™s on Kucenich that show he is against any part of the constitution.?. Iâ€™m serious, would like to read themâ€¦Thankâ€™s in advanceâ€¦..Blessings

Comment by Sharon â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:00 pm&lt;/em&gt;

&lt;strong&gt;Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians. A gun buy-back provision will be included in the bill.&lt;/strong&gt;

http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=62819</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Saywho, do you have any linkâ€™s on Kucenich that show he is against any part of the constitution.?. Iâ€™m serious, would like to read themâ€¦Thankâ€™s in advanceâ€¦..Blessings</p>
<p>Comment by Sharon â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:00 pm</em></p>
<p><strong>Kucinich is currently drafting legislation that would ban the purchase, sale, transfer, or possession of handguns by civilians. A gun buy-back provision will be included in the bill.</strong></p>
<p><a href="http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=62819" rel="nofollow">http://kucinich.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=62819</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777526', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chimpeach</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/thinkfast-april-30-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-3777522</link>
		<dc:creator>chimpeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:22:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 uptight eft

By the way, I&#039;m glad to see you using a dictionary. Keep it handy.</description>
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<p>By the way, I&#8217;m glad to see you using a dictionary. Keep it handy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777522', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: chimpeach</title>
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		<dc:creator>chimpeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 18:20:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#83 upright left

&lt;em&gt;Liberals have advocated one world govt. Like I told Dem Sold earlier, I can get back to ya later with references if ya need em. Yâ€™all have a great day, now ya hear&lt;/em&gt;

Really? Which ones? How many? What percentage of liberals? If you&#039;re not making a statement about liberals in general, what is your point? I took at as a general statement about liberals wanting one world government. If you&#039;re only talking about an isolated few of them, again, what&#039;s your point? I can say that conservatives have advocated blowing up federal buildings, blowing up newspaper publishers, poisoning supreme court justices, assassinating heads of state, and on and on. If I&#039;m only talking about a few of them who have actually said such things, that would seem to be a dishonest way of saying it. To me, anyway.

You weren&#039;t trying to be dishonest, were you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#83 upright left</p>
<p><em>Liberals have advocated one world govt. Like I told Dem Sold earlier, I can get back to ya later with references if ya need em. Yâ€™all have a great day, now ya hear</em></p>
<p>Really? Which ones? How many? What percentage of liberals? If you&#8217;re not making a statement about liberals in general, what is your point? I took at as a general statement about liberals wanting one world government. If you&#8217;re only talking about an isolated few of them, again, what&#8217;s your point? I can say that conservatives have advocated blowing up federal buildings, blowing up newspaper publishers, poisoning supreme court justices, assassinating heads of state, and on and on. If I&#8217;m only talking about a few of them who have actually said such things, that would seem to be a dishonest way of saying it. To me, anyway.</p>
<p>You weren&#8217;t trying to be dishonest, were you?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777518', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I agree with much of what you write but not about Obama..In his first speech, way back at the Dem. party he was my great hope for our country...Now I watch every one of the candidate&#039;s and their voting record&#039;s along with their speeches and sadly Obama has fallen behind Hillery . Edward&#039;s and Dodd for me..They are all carbon copies of Rep. Lite...I would vote for Edward&#039;s before Obama and indeed if he or Hillery get the nod I will do a  party write in for Kucenich or Gravel..No more the lesser of two evils for me...Blessings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I agree with much of what you write but not about Obama..In his first speech, way back at the Dem. party he was my great hope for our country&#8230;Now I watch every one of the candidate&#8217;s and their voting record&#8217;s along with their speeches and sadly Obama has fallen behind Hillery . Edward&#8217;s and Dodd for me..They are all carbon copies of Rep. Lite&#8230;I would vote for Edward&#8217;s before Obama and indeed if he or Hillery get the nod I will do a  party write in for Kucenich or Gravel..No more the lesser of two evils for me&#8230;Blessings<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777445', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/thinkfast-april-30-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-3777378</link>
		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, things have moved on. So it&#039;s probably too late for me to answer. I won&#039;t comment on upright left/Valiant venus/valiantthehater/LibSlayer or whatever the nom du jour is.

I don&#039;t think, Juan C, that America has a right to meddle in other countries. And I do think it should pay compensation of Vietnam for the continuing tragedy of Agent Orange. I don&#039;t think America should subvert foreign governments, invade them, or bully them into doing what&#039;s good for America but bad for them. However, America does have the right to try to influence foreign government diplomatically and economically. And this should be done in the public interest and not the interest of the oil, drug, or arms lobby.

Whenever America sits down to talk with another country, it has to remember that there&#039;s something the other side wants. I&#039;m always amazed to see American commentators being abusive of France or China or whoever because they think what&#039;s good for GM or Exxon is good for the world. It&#039;s not. And too often the American position is straight dogma curtesy of the WSJ.

I&#039;m not worried about Obama and AIPAC. He words himself carefully. And, if you&#039;ve read what Haaretz has to say about him or his words in Tikkun, you&#039;ll see he&#039;s much more nuanced than Bush and the Christian Right. (It helps not to believe the creation of a Greater Israel will trigger the Return of Jesus Christ.)

I think you&#039;ll find this summer will be very violent in the Middle East. It&#039;s the 40th anniversary of the Six Day War. And anniversaries do matter. Frankly, I&#039;m not sure what the best way forward is, but we&#039;ve had 40 years of stalling. Israel should just annex the occupied territory and become a secular state with a Palestinian majority or return to the 1966 borders and a two state solution. Time is running out. The IDF fiasco in Lebanon last summer --the report came out today-- shows that there is no military solution to what is a political problem.

And again, this is why I have hope in an Obama presidency. He can bring the most hostile people together and find common ground. As Rabin said, you don&#039;t talk peace with your friend, you talk peace with your enemy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, things have moved on. So it&#8217;s probably too late for me to answer. I won&#8217;t comment on upright left/Valiant venus/valiantthehater/LibSlayer or whatever the nom du jour is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think, Juan C, that America has a right to meddle in other countries. And I do think it should pay compensation of Vietnam for the continuing tragedy of Agent Orange. I don&#8217;t think America should subvert foreign governments, invade them, or bully them into doing what&#8217;s good for America but bad for them. However, America does have the right to try to influence foreign government diplomatically and economically. And this should be done in the public interest and not the interest of the oil, drug, or arms lobby.</p>
<p>Whenever America sits down to talk with another country, it has to remember that there&#8217;s something the other side wants. I&#8217;m always amazed to see American commentators being abusive of France or China or whoever because they think what&#8217;s good for GM or Exxon is good for the world. It&#8217;s not. And too often the American position is straight dogma curtesy of the WSJ.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not worried about Obama and AIPAC. He words himself carefully. And, if you&#8217;ve read what Haaretz has to say about him or his words in Tikkun, you&#8217;ll see he&#8217;s much more nuanced than Bush and the Christian Right. (It helps not to believe the creation of a Greater Israel will trigger the Return of Jesus Christ.)</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find this summer will be very violent in the Middle East. It&#8217;s the 40th anniversary of the Six Day War. And anniversaries do matter. Frankly, I&#8217;m not sure what the best way forward is, but we&#8217;ve had 40 years of stalling. Israel should just annex the occupied territory and become a secular state with a Palestinian majority or return to the 1966 borders and a two state solution. Time is running out. The IDF fiasco in Lebanon last summer &#8211;the report came out today&#8211; shows that there is no military solution to what is a political problem.</p>
<p>And again, this is why I have hope in an Obama presidency. He can bring the most hostile people together and find common ground. As Rabin said, you don&#8217;t talk peace with your friend, you talk peace with your enemy.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777378', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Democrat Soldier</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/04/30/thinkfast-april-30-2007/comment-page-2/#comment-3777344</link>
		<dc:creator>Democrat Soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#87 - &quot; The Democratic party shifted so far left that they had to leave and vote for candidates that they didnâ€™t want to support, but were the lesser of two evils.&quot;  Comment by upright left â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:18 pm

I guess that means that in November of 2006, the majority of Republicans woke up to the fact that the neo-cons have hijacked their party, and moved so far to the right that rather than normally supporting the Republican party were so sickened by the culture of corruption that the Bush Administration fostered in the White House and Washington DC, they voted for Democrats to help put things back on an even keel.

Don&#039;t worry.  I&#039;m sure the Republicans will eventually clean their party of the extremists and neo-con cabal.  It won&#039;t happen over night, nor will it happen by 2008 (I predict) so the Republicans will find themselves remaining the minotory party while the Democrats have to clean up the mess they&#039;ve left behind over the past 6+ years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#87 &#8211; &#8221; The Democratic party shifted so far left that they had to leave and vote for candidates that they didnâ€™t want to support, but were the lesser of two evils.&#8221;  Comment by upright left â€” April 30, 2007 @ 12:18 pm</p>
<p>I guess that means that in November of 2006, the majority of Republicans woke up to the fact that the neo-cons have hijacked their party, and moved so far to the right that rather than normally supporting the Republican party were so sickened by the culture of corruption that the Bush Administration fostered in the White House and Washington DC, they voted for Democrats to help put things back on an even keel.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry.  I&#8217;m sure the Republicans will eventually clean their party of the extremists and neo-con cabal.  It won&#8217;t happen over night, nor will it happen by 2008 (I predict) so the Republicans will find themselves remaining the minotory party while the Democrats have to clean up the mess they&#8217;ve left behind over the past 6+ years.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777344', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upright left is valiant venus. It&#039;s the same patter, but with an accent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upright left is valiant venus. It&#8217;s the same patter, but with an accent.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777343', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Zooey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>upright left,

You&#039;re gonna be late.  Hurry up and go, I need time to recover from your stinging wit.  

**eyes rolling**</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>upright left,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re gonna be late.  Hurry up and go, I need time to recover from your stinging wit.  </p>
<p>**eyes rolling**<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777337', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: upright left</title>
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		<dc:creator>upright left</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 16:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well shoot, just one more for Zoo.  I&#039;m not at work yet!  Just now leaving!  Not your regular 9-5, see?  And if I don&#039;t have a job, I&#039;m getting paid pretty well in spite of it.  Maybe I&#039;ll try not showing and see if I still get paid.  That&#039;ll show fer sher if it&#039;s job or not, ya think?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well shoot, just one more for Zoo.  I&#8217;m not at work yet!  Just now leaving!  Not your regular 9-5, see?  And if I don&#8217;t have a job, I&#8217;m getting paid pretty well in spite of it.  Maybe I&#8217;ll try not showing and see if I still get paid.  That&#8217;ll show fer sher if it&#8217;s job or not, ya think?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3777313', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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