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]]> By: Lynda http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3793158 Lynda Wed, 09 May 2007 02:48:53 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3793158 I keep hearing that if we announce a timetable as to when we are leaving Iraq, the insurgents will sit on the sidelines until we are gone, then inflict total chaos on Iraq. If we don't ever leave Iraq, when will the insurgents stop fighting us? 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? How will we pay for such an ongoing war (including contractors like Halliburton, extra mercenaries like Blackwater and additional military equipment like overused planes that need new wings or replacement armor)? Do we continue to throw good money after bad? Do we want to keep taking people and equipment from our National Guard units so that they don't have the equipment do to help our own people in local emergencies like in Kansas? Do we want to consign our as-yet unknown children and grandchildren to fighting and dying in a bloody war? I don't think Bush has ever planned to exit from Iraq. Look at the permanent military bases being constructed there, as well as the largest embassy in the world. Look at the deferred costs of this war, hiding the real blow to our pocketbooks, and look at the pending Iraqi legislation that will effectively make Iraq into a cheap source of oil under control of American oil companies for the next 30-50 years. Look at how we keep sending more and more and more troops, equipment, money, contractors and mercenaries over there. Of course it's all about the oil. I keep hearing that if we announce a timetable as to when we are leaving Iraq, the insurgents will sit on the sidelines until we are gone, then inflict total chaos on Iraq.

If we don’t ever leave Iraq, when will the insurgents stop fighting us? 20 years? 30 years? 50 years? How will we pay for such an ongoing war (including contractors like Halliburton, extra mercenaries like Blackwater and additional military equipment like overused planes that need new wings or replacement armor)? Do we continue to throw good money after bad? Do we want to keep taking people and equipment from our National Guard units so that they don’t have the equipment do to help our own people in local emergencies like in Kansas? Do we want to consign our as-yet unknown children and grandchildren to fighting and dying in a bloody war?

I don’t think Bush has ever planned to exit from Iraq. Look at the permanent military bases being constructed there, as well as the largest embassy in the world. Look at the deferred costs of this war, hiding the real blow to our pocketbooks, and look at the pending Iraqi legislation that will effectively make Iraq into a cheap source of oil under control of American oil companies for the next 30-50 years. Look at how we keep sending more and more and more troops, equipment, money, contractors and mercenaries over there.

Of course it’s all about the oil.

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3783947 Dave Thu, 03 May 2007 13:50:19 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3783947 The sad thing is it doesn't matter. Nothing matter's to Bush. He doesn't care about the wellbeing of the troops or the American people. He started this war based on misrepresented intel and bad intel at that. His primary reason is already known. He has appointed two conservative justices to the supreme court. He's made his and Cheney's buddies at haliburton and their subsidiaries even richer. He changed the tax code to benefit the extremely wealthy while continuing to put the burden on the dwindling middle class. He got what he wanted out of it now he just wants to keep it going so he can dump his problem onto the next president, which, if trends continue, will be a democrat. Who will have to get us out of the problem Bush created voluntarily. All so he can claim that he wasn't the one to quit. His policy failed. It's time to admit that and find a way for us to get out of it and the "we broke, we bought it" mentality. The sad thing is it doesn’t matter. Nothing matter’s to Bush. He doesn’t care about the wellbeing of the troops or the American people. He started this war based on misrepresented intel and bad intel at that. His primary reason is already known. He has appointed two conservative justices to the supreme court. He’s made his and Cheney’s buddies at haliburton and their subsidiaries even richer. He changed the tax code to benefit the extremely wealthy while continuing to put the burden on the dwindling middle class. He got what he wanted out of it now he just wants to keep it going so he can dump his problem onto the next president, which, if trends continue, will be a democrat. Who will have to get us out of the problem Bush created voluntarily. All so he can claim that he wasn’t the one to quit. His policy failed. It’s time to admit that and find a way for us to get out of it and the “we broke, we bought it” mentality.

]]> By: Dave http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3783925 Dave Thu, 03 May 2007 13:29:28 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3783925 One question for conservatives Post 60 in particular. Why is that you always respond to criticism of Bush sitting in a classroom after being told our nation was under attack with the most extreme answers? You always give some lame response like: "Just what should President Bush have done when he heard of the incident? Jump up, wave his hands in panic and scream at the kids?" Why go to that extreme?? If he were a "real president" as you claim then instead of sitting there frozen in fear. He would have gotten up while remaing "calm and collected" and politely excused himself from the class and left the class to take care of the country he was elected to protect from such events. However, as we know he did not do that. Instead, he sat there and did nothing. Not really very presidential now is it? One question for conservatives Post 60 in particular. Why is that you always respond to criticism of Bush sitting in a classroom after being told our nation was under attack with the most extreme answers?
You always give some lame response like: “Just what should President Bush have done when he heard of the incident? Jump up, wave his hands in panic and scream at the kids?” Why go to that extreme?? If he were a “real president” as you claim then instead of sitting there frozen in fear. He would have gotten up while remaing “calm and collected” and politely excused himself from the class and left the class to take care of the country he was elected to protect from such events. However, as we know he did not do that. Instead, he sat there and did nothing. Not really very presidential now is it?

]]> By: fuistemon http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3781625 fuistemon Wed, 02 May 2007 14:18:56 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3781625 In 1999, Bush was talking about Kosovo; now, Iraq. Spell 'em, people. K-O-S-O-V-O. I-R-A-Q. Not the same place. In 1999, Bush was talking about Kosovo; now, Iraq.

Spell ‘em, people.

K-O-S-O-V-O.

I-R-A-Q.

Not the same place.

]]> By: DJ http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3781413 DJ Wed, 02 May 2007 07:30:35 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3781413 For those who are wondering what the exit strategy is ... this site has it all. From "And you can know that our forces will be coming home as soon as their work is done." to "We will help the emerging democracies of Iraq and Afghanistan so they can grow in strength and defend their freedom. And then our servicemen and women will come home with the honor they have earned." to today's statement. http://donhodges.com/Iraq_exit_strategy.html For those who are wondering what the exit strategy is … this site has it all. From “And you can know that our forces will be coming home as soon as their work is done.” to “We will help the emerging democracies of Iraq and Afghanistan so they can grow in strength and defend their freedom. And then our servicemen and women will come home with the honor they have earned.” to today’s statement.

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]]> By: elissaF http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3781412 elissaF Wed, 02 May 2007 07:28:20 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3781412 Sure, People, including presidents, change their mind. Often hundreds of millions of lives aren't at stake, and often there are good reasons, meaning: a reasonable person might accept those reasons. Well, there are a lot of reasonable people who no longer accept President Bush's reasons. Bush's reason: because setting a timeline would lead to chaos. Huh? Setting a timeline is required for every project, so that we can have benchmarks and measure progress against them. Without a timeline, there is no impetus for getting things done. We might as well piss away another several thousand US lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and billions and billions of tax dollars. Personally, *I* think it's all about: "we can't leave! Me and my friends didn't get rich and powerful enough yet! We haven't stripped all of the Constitution yet!" *sigh* Sure, People, including presidents, change their mind. Often hundreds of millions of lives aren’t at stake, and often there are good reasons, meaning: a reasonable person might accept those reasons. Well, there are a lot of reasonable people who no longer accept President Bush’s reasons. Bush’s reason: because setting a timeline would lead to chaos. Huh? Setting a timeline is required for every project, so that we can have benchmarks and measure progress against them. Without a timeline, there is no impetus for getting things done. We might as well piss away another several thousand US lives and hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives and billions and billions of tax dollars.

Personally, *I* think it’s all about: “we can’t leave! Me and my friends didn’t get rich and powerful enough yet! We haven’t stripped all of the Constitution yet!”

*sigh*

]]> By: cebus http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/comment-page-6/#comment-3781262 cebus Wed, 02 May 2007 04:16:04 +0000 http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/bush-timetable-2/#comment-3781262 i can't believe no one else ion the media bothers to point out this complete contradiction. and i can't believe democrats aren't trotting out these quotes. is there video of bush making some similar comments about Kosovo, or it all just print? it would make a great commercial right now. i can’t believe no one else ion the media bothers to point out this complete contradiction. and i can’t believe democrats aren’t trotting out these quotes. is there video of bush making some similar comments about Kosovo, or it all just print? it would make a great commercial right now.

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