In National Review, Conservative Author Says Most Liberals Are “Traitors”
In National Review, Conservative Author Says Most Liberals Are “Traitors”
National Review Online (NRO) features an interview today with author and retired Air Force Lt. Colonel Robert “Buzz” Patterson, who accuses “Democrat politicians, big media, academia, popular culture, and nongovernmental organizations” of forming “a Fifth Column” that is “facilitating defeat against Islamo-fascism.”
Patterson, the author of an upcoming book with the title, “War Crimes: The Left’s Campaign to Destroy Our Military and Lose the War on Terror,” is a right-wing radio host with ties to various conservative organizations.
In the interview and his book, “Buzz” Patterson isn’t afraid to accuse people he disagrees with of treason:
Kathryn Jean Lopez: Your upcoming book begins with a quote from Cicero about how a nation “cannot survive treason from within.” Surely you’re not calling Democrats traitors. Or are you?
“Buzz” Patterson: I am. They certainly are if their behavior during our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is held up to the light of the U.S. Constitution. Article III, Section 3 defines treason against the United States as “adhering to (our) enemies, giving them aid and comfort. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Dick Durbin, and John Murtha, amongst others, are guilty of exactly that. [...]
It’s not just the Democrats though but many on the Left — its faculties and administrations on college campuses, big media, Hollywood, and left-wing organizations such as the Ford Foundation, Moveon.org, United for Peace and Justice, etc. What is particularly disturbing to me is that these Americans are doing it while their fellow citizens are fighting and dying in combat. The best ally that al Qaeda has these days is the Democrat Party leadership. It’s reprehensible.
Patterson’s comments were approvingly linked by NRO contributor and Townhall columnist W. Thomas Smith Jr. later in the day.
Accusations of treason have become an all-too-common tactic used by conservatives against critics of the Iraq war. Just last week, disgraced former Rep. Tom DeLay accused House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) of “getting very, very close to treason.”
Previously, this kind of attack was mainly found in the fever swamps of talk radio or the conservative blogosphere, but the National Review is the largest conservative magazine in the country. Its columnists regularly appear on major media outlets like NBC’s Meet The Press. They should have higher standards than aiding and abetting such derogatory attacks on the patriotism of literally millions of Americans.
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THAT’s gonna get him at least 60,000 copies sold…
I know the KKK, Nazi Party, and basic evangelical terrorists of the U.S will support his position…
May 1st, 2007 at 5:07 pm…proves any nutjob can write a book of falsehoods and still get published in this great country! Go 1st amendment, go!!!!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmO…K…., Buzzzzzzz………
May 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmwas your last military detail hemp eradication in Afghanistan, or Columbia?
Breathing all that burning herbicide isn’t healthy, you know………….
Looks like Tom Delay may have actually read a book recently…
May 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmWhat an assh*le
May 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmF*ck you, Buzz, you crazy old man.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:10 pmwow
I support finding Osama and Zawahiri. Did he mention those guys? Did he mention all the Republican chickenhawks, too?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmI’m going to think up the most depraved, twisted, evil ,immoral, backward, horroble acts I can think of and then call all who won’t go along, Traitor. ehehhehehehe
May 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmTheir pronouncements are so pathetic. They’re chickenhawks, every one of them. They should be supporting the draft if they believe were really engaged in World War III.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmIsn’t it obvious?
Liberals are fighting the war effort and therefore giving comfort and support to the enemy. Therefore they are traitors. Just try to debunk me.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:11 pmThe Islamists certainly aren’t “fascists.” The fact that this guy uses the term “Islamo-Fascists” is a clear indication that the book is based on political bias and talking points and not on facts.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pmLiberals show the world respect on behalf of America and in return they gain respect for America
where republicans show disrespect and get treated with the same
thats why America has no respect being shown to it at the moment
May 1st, 2007 at 5:12 pmOf course they should have higher standards, but give them a break — there just isn’t anything else they can say without admitting that they are wrong now and have been wrong for years. And that they will never do.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:13 pmAnother sell out, contract on America
May 1st, 2007 at 5:13 pmFeinstein proposes plan to close Gitmo
Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) introduced legislation Monday that would close the U.S. military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba.
“Guantánamo Bay has become a lightning rod for international condemnation,†Feinstein said. “Rather than make the United States safer, the image projected by this facility puts us at greater risk.â€
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/feinstein-proposes-plan-to-close-gitmo-2007-04-30.html
May 1st, 2007 at 5:13 pmsigh…sniff sniff
Smells like @$$ in here! Did some Republo-fascist propaganda pusher open their mouth again?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:14 pm“They should have higher standards than aiding and abetting such derogatory attacks on the patriotism of literally millions of Americans.”
by thinkprogress.org
Oh this is not irony. Thinkprogress.org demanding higher standards from the right. Have you seen your incredibly low standards? Look at how you catogarize this, “radical right”. Says who, thinkprogress.org?
Please, before you demanding high standards from the right, why don’t you lead by example? I know, too much to ask from a left wing site.
i wonder if thinkprogress.org demanded these higher standards when Moveon.org and other sites starting comparing our President to Hitler, and Republicans to the Nazis. I take it left wingers believe this is responsible, eh?
please, …the pot calling the kettle black.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pmThe wingNUTS that want to shred that “just a piece of paper” Constitution – calling others *traitors*! How rich!
I guess he forgot the part where Bin Laden wanted us to invade Iraq, and how the Conservatives with their friends in the Arab World have helped fuel Terrorism in the last few years?
Yeah, sure… What a bunch of insane wingNUTS!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pmGAINING WORLD BANK DISRESPECT
1/ CARACAS, Venezuela – President Hugo Chavez announced Monday he would pull Venezuela out of the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund,
2/ Ecuador’s leftist president, Rafael Correa, recently asked the World Bank’s representative there to leave and said the country paid off its debt to the IMF. Argentina also has paid back billions of dollars to the IMF.
3/ Nicaraguan President Daniel Ortega said Sunday that he hopes to “get out of that prison†of IMF debt and that “we are negotiating with the Fund to leave the Fund.â€
May 1st, 2007 at 5:15 pmThere’s an endless “assault” on people who oppose the policies of this government.
As if being against war means that you’re a traitor, you’d rather be living in some communist country, you should be silenced or oddly enough, shot.
Amazing, but I think it’s THESE people that are actually showing their hatred for America and what she stands for.
A great read on this:
“The America-Haters Strike Again”
May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/the_america_haters_strike_again
I think I’m going to write a book and call it
You suck because I say you suck!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmLiberals are fighting the war effort and therefore giving comfort and support to the enemy. Therefore they are traitors. Just try to debunk me.
Comment by MAF54
You’re debunked.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmWell, if you add up Democratic politicians, big media, academia, popular culture, and nongovernmental organizations, and toss in the people that follow these things, that’s pretty much everybody who matters. I wonder what Buzz’s point is?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pmAlso, that ‘treason’ thing isn’t getting much traction anymore. It’s almost as ripe as calling someone a commie.
The Democrats didn’t expose a CIA agent AND her entire undercover company that was investigating WMDs in Iraq and Iran.
The Repukes did.
This is PROJECTION, a Rovian tactic. Accuse the opposition of the same crimes that your side is committing. It defuses the original accusation.
This is a very powerful tactic and has been used very often by Repukes.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:16 pm#15: Did you know that even the Saudis are so scared of the people that are getting out of Gitmo that they’re trying to bribe them with cars, wives and money? And they’ve got some serious internal security arranged…
You really want people like that released?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmLiberals are fighting the war effort and therefore giving comfort and support to the enemy. Therefore they are traitors. Just try to debunk me.
Comment by MAF54 — May 1, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Well so much for the United States being a free country. We better fight for democracy here before we worry about democracy in other countries.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmBesides using the “Fear” argument, calling their opponents “traitors” is all that the Republican Party has left to offer this country.
God, I hope this party (once the party of Lincoln, now the party of Dobson, Robertson, et al) gets the snot pounded out of them by the electorate in 2008.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmIslamo fascist is just more projection.
Like this Repuke calling Dems traitors when the Repukes are the traitors.
The Islamists are not the fascists…the Repukes are.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmMein Kampf was full of shit too.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:18 pmPlease, before you demanding high standards from the right, why don’t you lead by example? I know, too much to ask from a left wing site.
please, …the pot calling the kettle black.
Comment by valiantthehater
Projection, what else is new?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:19 pmGeorge W. Bush’s policies are the best thing that ever happed to Al Queda.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:20 pm#26: What’s freedom good for if you’re dead after a suicide bomber attack?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmMAF54 is Mark Foley’s text message nickname.
So this Repuke troll is a Foley supporter.
The troll supports pedophilia. Typical Repuke.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmWhen you call dissent treason, you’re one step closer to the facism that you claim to be fighting.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:21 pmPatterson is a conspiracy-theory nutball. And as far as treason goes; the only people that can be remotely held accountable for treason in this country are folks in the administration that lied to get us into a war.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:22 pmHis argument against those who would shed light on a felonious government is to attack with words like treasonous. This is facism at its best. The attackers of truth, like DeLay are the real purveyors of treason.
It seems we have come full circle since the days prior to WW II.
Regardless of your opinion on this war, accusing people of treason for critiquing it is shrill in the extreme and morally unjustifiable.
But then, that’s American politics for you.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:23 pmOsama bin Laden demanded that U.S. get its military bases out of Saudi Arabia. Bush did it.
Osama bin Laden wanted the “secular dictator” of Iraq removed from power. Bush accomplished that for him.
Osama bin Laden needed new recruits. Bush’s policies have led to greater recruits.
But, Buzz thinks that those OPPOSING Bush’s policies are aiding terrorists. Try to make sense out of that!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:24 pm#26 Freedom is worthless if we must shed every ounce of our collective soul to have it.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:24 pmWhile Mexicans turned out in the tens of thousands today, we are allowing ourselves to be called traitors. How bad will it have to get before we stand up for ourselves?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:25 pmWhen you call dissent treason, you’re one step closer to the facism that you claim to be fighting.
Comment by raynman
Bingo. It was said that we must not confuse dissent with disloyalty, and these Republo-fascists and their apologists have purposely merged the two, made all the more dubious by what miserable failures this administration has been.
Worst President Ever!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:25 pmThe word you’re looking for is ‘rebut’, MAF54, not ‘debunk’, although you’re certainly full of bunk.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pmTry this on: We’re opposing the war effort because the war itself is treasonous.
1. Al Qaeda’s never had a better recruiting tool than W’s war. Treason.
2. The war breaks domestic and international law.
3. The war was provoked by Bush using fraudulent, illegal evidence.
4. The war has been used by Bush as an excuse to undermine the Constitution. Treason.
5. The war has drained the U.S. of at least $500 billion, much of which has gone to Bush’s cronies and masters, thus weakening our national defense. Treason.
6. The war has killed thousands of American soldiers and wounded or damaged hundreds of thousands, while it has trashed military preparedness, undermining national defense. Treason.
7. The war has created millions of new enemies of our country to no purpose. Treason.
I could go on for a while, but consider yourself rebutted, which rhymes with “butthead”, which isn’t an accident here.
Little Bush lies to start a war that has resulted in the murder of hundreds of thousands and has actually made terror around the globe WORSE. And this ignorant clod “Buzz” thinks that the “Left” are traitors.
Up is Down
Left is Right
Night is Daylight
and
It’s always darkest at noon
If your a member of the Reich Wing
May 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pmNow you know where the nickname “Buzz” comes from, all the crack that nazi is smoking.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:26 pmGeorge W. Bush’s policies are the best thing that ever happed to Al Queda.
Comment by Robert — May 1, 2007 @ 5:20 pm
Robert’s right! So who’s the traitor again?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:27 pmConservatives are just scum.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:27 pmColonel Patterson and his publisher are at least a few years behind the times. While this book might have sold at one time, we’ve turned a corner in this country; people aren’t buying into this kind of crazy, right wing propaganda any more.
Once they’ve seen that the Emperor has no clothes, there’s no way to dress him up again.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:27 pm20 stopthecons
I like that webpage – heres a quote from it
It’s important to note, though, that most discussions on patriotism neglect the most important issue – what it really means to love America.
You see, I love America. I love the liberty that still does exist here. I refuse to live in a socialist dictatorship like Cuba. But what is it that makes America great? Is it its two-trillion dollar government? Is it its role as world Superpower or its self-proclaimed status as spreader of democracy? Absolutely not.
I love liberty.
I love the Bill of Rights.
I love the freedom of speech and strictly limited government.
I love personal privacy and religious freedom.
I love habeas corpus and the jury trial.
These are just a few of the things that make America special; one-of-a-kind in the history of the world. It is liberty that is a direct cause of much of the prosperity this country has had. It is liberty that has driven millions and millions of people around the world to give up everything to come here.
Unfortunately, too many people in this country appear to have very little love for that America. They make is quite clear that they’re willing to abandon these ideals of liberty.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe right-wing macho war machine has helped terrorists and their recruitment efforts beyond Osama bin Laden’s wildest dreams. Way to f*ck America, right-wing traitors.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe neocons and the architects of the disastrous Iraqi occupation are getting increasingly desperate as it becomes more and more obvious what a terrible job they’ve done fighting the “war on terrorism” and how much damage they’ve done to the economy, the military and our ability to influence world events. Since they are completely incapable of admitting mistakes or failure, which are critical steps in correcting course, they can only resort to screeching and finger-pointing at the people who have called them on their b.s.
I predict we’ll hear more and more of the “Democrats/liberals are traitors” screed in the days to come, as they become more and more isolated and more and more desperate.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:28 pmThe thought that it is somehow treasonous to not blindly follow the lead of incompetence and special interest is so utterly ridiculous it defies words.
Even if you want to git all the terrustistss, is Bush the bumbling idiot you want to lead the charge?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:29 pmJust try to debunk me.
Comment by MAF54
You debunk yourself by idolizing a pedophile, using that moniker, fool.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm———————————–
Ol’ Buzz does not know the meaning of fascism and the reason it cannot be logically applied to islam. Theocracy is what their aim is, like the christians that are trying to undermine democracy here in the US.
Buzz just proved he is an ignorant f*ckwad with that statement.
I have a better name for Buzz Patterson…’Buzz Windrip’. Life imitating art at it’s finest.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pmThese days we’re supposed to buy the concept that we need to give up freedoms to get freedom. Yikes.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pm“Before the war is ended, the war party assumes the divine right to denounce and silence all opposition to war as unpatriotic and cowardly.”
~Senator Robert M. La Follette
“Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism.”
~George Washington
“Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official…”
~Theodore Roosevelt
“It is unpatriotic not to tell the truth, whether about the president or anyone else.”
~Theodore Roosevel
May 1st, 2007 at 5:30 pmMAF54 is Mark Foley’s screen name? Wow, that’s so creepy. This guy is either a pedophile or a pedophile supporter.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pmWhat is scary about calling Democrats traitors is that it may be the first step in rounding up the Democrats and sending them to the Halliburton Detention Camp and Soap Factory.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pmJust another case of untreated gasbagitus…with these guys, it’s anything for a buck.
But…I wanna know which one of these schmucks invented the term islamo-fascism? Yeah, right…islamo-fascism…like we need another useless oxymoron. There outta be a law…christ on a crutch.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:31 pm#17 – “i wonder if thinkprogress.org demanded these higher standards when Moveon.org and other sites starting comparing our President to Hitler, and Republicans to the Nazis. I take it left wingers believe this is responsible, eh? ” Comment by valiantthehater — May 1, 2007 @ 5:15 pm
Just like the right web sites that refer to anyone/everyone as “Nazi’s” and the Republican election commercial that compared Fmr. Sen. Cleland with Saddam Hussein & Usama bin Laden.
When you start holding your party and your people to any kind of standard, then come here and complain about us.
Don’t forget, it was the Republicans and the Conservatives that started with the Nazi & Hitler references.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmAnd now, please stand for a message from Chancellor George W. Bush on the glorious 4th anniversary of the mission accomplished.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmIt amazes every time I read someone opine the greatness of freedom when in the same breath they would deny the voice of dissention. T
May 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmThe arab fundamentalists hate their own people also…
video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=the%20power%20of%20nightmares&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv
May 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pm“MAF54 is Mark Foley’s screen name? Wow, that’s so creepy. This guy is either a pedophile or a pedophile supporter.”
Yup, he’s probably humping a Cub Scout right now. Typical Repuke.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:32 pmeverybody knows that conservowackjobs accuse us of what they see in the mirror. I woudn’t worry about it. His phone number is probably on that list that ABC has anyway :)
May 1st, 2007 at 5:33 pmIs it too far out to imagine Bush in his bunker demanding that the only way to save Amurica is to round up all the Democrats and install himself King.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:33 pmI mean otherwise the terrorists win. “They hate our freedoms. Thats why I’m gonna git rid of all em, freedoms that is, not the terrurists”
serious wacko
May 1st, 2007 at 5:33 pmBut the Democrat Congress supports a “Surrender Date” and is “Waving a White Flag” to “Embolden the Enemy.” Nancy Pelosi is trying to “Micromanage the War.” How can Democrats Confirm General Petraeus But Oppose His Mission?” If they get their way, the insurgents will “Follow Us Home” and Iraq will descend into a “Cauldron of Chaos.”
To see which Iraq sound bites are on – and off – the Republicans’ approved talking points list, see:
May 1st, 2007 at 5:34 pm“Mission Accomplished: 4 Years of GOP Iraq Talking Points.”
It’s no secret there are 2 USA’s. Probably from here on. No point in calling anyone a traitor. But clearly the military is undermanned. Why aren’t the pro war folks rallying people to help out?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:34 pmComment by MAF54 — May 1, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Beat it, freak.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:34 pmConservatives calling liberals traitors is old news. This occurred during the McCarthy era, Nixon and Agnew made good hay of it, and here we go again. All we liberals can do is maintain a level-headed and rational demeanor in the face of such puerile hysterics. To respond to such nonsense is to lend it credibility in the public arena.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:35 pmI like the way he uses pictures on the front of the book so his illiterate audience will have something to do as the book is read to them.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:35 pmand another thing, what’s the deal with that cover? are few remaining conservowackjobs so stupid they need to have their sentences littered with pictures so they can understand them? That cover looks like a pre-”Dick and Jane” reader.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:35 pmislamofacist. What a word. Two entirely opposing views pushed together by who. It has less meaning than “mission accomplished”.
Speaking out against this conflict is a very patriotic thing to do. Thanks to all who do speak out against it and thanks to all who are scared of those who speak out against it. Shows we’re on to something.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pmWar is not the answer for terrorism, it is one of the reasons the terror exists. If conservatives really want to fight terror then they should look into different alleys where funding would actually make a great impact. This war has cost over $340 billion to date. According to the Borgen Project, it costs just $19 billion annually to end starvation and malnutrition or just $23 billion annually to reverse the spread of Malaria and AIDS. Wouldn’t aiding in the development of countries and ending poverty be a better plan for attacking extremism?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:36 pm#
#26: What’s freedom good for if you’re dead after a suicide bomber attack?
Comment by MAF54 — May 1, 2007 @ 5:21 pm
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Oh look, Jake’s back.
This is a concerted talking point from KKKarl Rove again… projection is all they know.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:37 pmWe are only fighting the Iraq “war” effort. Afghanistan is okay by us.
You have been debunked. Again Mr. Foley.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:37 pmBecause the ones we are letting out are innocent Shia and the Saudis have already said they are funding the Sunni insurgents. They better be scared.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmIt would be nice if we could have a dialog about this, rather than the fairly idotic format we have now, which is for such people to be given a platform to say it unchallenged. It’s a perfectly fine topic to bring up — and of course it doesn’t survive scrutiny by any means. If the accusation is going to persist, then let the MSM bring it out and ask those saying it to make a case, and debate it. Right now, they have no case, and I think they would be quickly humiliated if forced to debate it with an intelligent, reasonable person. It’s time we kill the subject in the quickest and most American way possible: with open, intelligent debate, not buried in blogs and book tours.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmMAF54 is Mark Foley’s screen name? Wow, that’s so creepy. This guy is either a pedophile or a pedophile supporter.
Comment by NoOneYouKnow —
May 1st, 2007 at 5:39 pmmaybe it is foley…the only job he could get now is “paid troll”.
I heard today that food imports to USA have quadrupled since Bush, yet he has cut FDA funding 14%.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:40 pmWatch what you eat! There’s a price on your head!
All the while Tommy Thompson sez he’s shocked USA food supply hasn’t been hit by terrorists…
maybe jake really is mark foley. it would explain a lot.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:41 pmBuzz off Patterson! These McCarthyism supporters can eat sht and die as far as I’m concerned. Fcking self-rightous asswhole ‘conservative’ shtheads have done more to weaken our military, our standing in the world, and our influence by way of organized attack-message than any Democrat could every hope to, even if they were so self-absorbed to dare try.
Making false accusations is slander, and since nobody is advocating anything to support terrorism within the US, this is just another lie.
You want to throw around serious crimes like being a traitor and treason for people whose opinion differs from yours? Then do it. Come on you chickensht asswhole, bring up some formal charges! Don’t just spin it endlessly. If these groups and individuals are really supporting the enemy as you suggest, then it won’t take long for the courts to send them to the chair.
All these McCathyism-isn’t-dead asswholes should be rounded up and sent to ‘patriot camp’ for their own protection (and ours, not to mention the Constitution’s).
F$CK YOU AND THE BLACK HORSE YOU RODE IN ON, buzz, shawn, bill, rush, george, dick, tom, john, and all you other cowards who have to blame someone else for your fck-up.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:43 pmOnly retired as a Lt. Colonel after 20 years,must of been a pretty lousy Pilot,anyone can carry a “Football” around!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:44 pmBut then again, it does take a very strong and dedicated man to follow Bush with the Suitcase, the stench of death that surrounds Bush would make any normal man drop to his knees and gag uncontrollably!
Wonder why Bush didn’t promote ole Buzz-Boy?
Maybe Buzz can move down to Paraguay with Dickie and Dubbie in a couple years and start up the military dictatorship they’ve always dreamed of.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pm“According to the Borgen Project, it costs just $19 billion annually to end starvation and malnutrition or just $23 billion annually to reverse the spread of Malaria and AIDS.” – elle c
That is correct. The developed world could end poverty, starvation and disease as we know it. Across the entire planet.
Somewhere along the line, our world leaders made a conscious decision to NOT do this. They knew they could do it, but decided not to.
The Human Race is doomed if it is led by people like that.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pmLet’s see, they lie to go to war and torture, kidnap, mislead, use white phosphorous on civilians, out af CIA agent, send anthrax to dem senators/news reporters, and the people that call them on that crap are traitors, I THINK NOT.
It is just more repukian talking points, more than likely Karl was involved with ghost writing it.
If you repeat a lie over and over then most repukian morons will believe it.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pmPatterson’s way of thinking is exactly what made the german citizens keep their mouths shut even when they knew what was happening to the jews.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:47 pmBuzz,… great name for a guy who’s attracted to Sh*t.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:48 pmI guess from now on when we tell the ignorant trolls to go read a book, we have to be more specific. We’ll have to specify NON-FICTION, because this book does not qualify for any catagory that is titled after reality…
May 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmIf he retired at 20 years as a Lt. Col., that means he didn’t make the cut.
After 20 years, you have to make full Colonel or above or you are forced to retire.
This guy wasn’t a raging success in the military. He’s just as bad as a political commentator.
He’s spewing the same hate that Mann Coulter spews.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:49 pmJack T. Ripper has spoken. I am appropriately chastened. Which is to say, not at all.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:50 pmComment by MAF54 — May 1, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
The rest of the world thinks you are wrong. Accept it – Bush made a massive screw up. Remember the days after 9/11 when the world was with you? Did we all turn into terrorists after that?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmpatriotism…the last refuge of a scoundrel
May 1st, 2007 at 5:51 pmTom Delay’s new book, No “Retreat,No Surrender” is listed at 28,821,after only a few weeks!Wonder where Football Buzz’s book will be in a few weeks?
May 1st, 2007 at 5:52 pmTom3 – the policy you refer to is known as “Up or Out.”
May 1st, 2007 at 5:54 pm“What’s freedom good for if you’re dead after a suicide bomber attack?
Comment by MAF54 — May 1, 2007 @ 5:21 pm”
Oh, because they go off every day in America? Stop deluding yourselves. You’re far more likely to die from the products of companies in which you invest your 401K money – such as tobacco, diseased food products, medicine, etc…
May 1st, 2007 at 5:54 pm14 Features of Rape-Public-Can brownshirt authortarian facsism
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove.html
May 1st, 2007 at 5:56 pmyeah, Left wingers love America so much and our military so much….
I guess these youngens forget all the anti-American, anti-military marches of the 60s, 70s, 80s, and 90s, orchestrated by the far-left.
How many times has the left wingers attacked the CIA, called them evil, how many left wingers are constantly protesting the School of the Americas?
how many Liberals spat on the faces of our soldiers who returned from vietnam?
I mean how many liberals are calling our current soldiers baby killers…
the left blames america for all the ills in the world, many of you even spell America with three KKKs…
you are only fooling yourself. The left in America has hated American for a long time, today is just a different song, but the message is the same. America is evil, all the evils of the world are due to the USA, the American military is bad and the CIA has done horrific things in Central America and around the world.
do you honestly think that anyone believes the left when they claim that they are so worried that Valarie Plame was supposedly outed? the left in America has tried to out CIA agents since forever.
May 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmMAF 54 is a pretty talented troll.
He can type AND screw a Cub Scout at the same time!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:57 pmBULLSHIT PATTERSON!! You want to call somebody a traitor you should start looking in the mirror. Treasonous behaviour is usually couched in lying and smearing your opponents… hmm, where have we seen that happen??
I am Liberal, Progressive, White, Male and over 40. I remember all too well how Vietnam played out and the lies that preceded the debacle of foreign policy there. Oh – I also read and pay attention to history so don’t try to pawn this administrations failures and contempt for rule of law and OUR Constitution on some made up “War on the Military” by Democrats and Liberals!
May 1st, 2007 at 5:58 pmNotice Al-Qaida and Neocons are one in the same
Theocracy over Secularism
May 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pmScience is evil
Misogynistic
No individual rights
Freedom od speech supressed
Kill, diplomacy is a sign of weakness
Party before Nation
Terror and propaganda as instruments of control
Accusations of treason have become an all-too-common tactic used by conservatives against critics of the Iraq war.
Accusations of treason have become an all-too-common tactic used by Everybody
Previously, this kind of attack was mainly found in the fever swamps of talk radio or the conservative blogosphere, but the National Review is the largest conservative magazine in the country. Its columnists regularly appear on major media outlets like NBC’s Meet The Press. They should have higher standards than aiding and abetting such derogatory attacks on the patriotism of literally millions of Americans.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/02/09/17_treason.html
May 1st, 2007 at 6:00 pm“everybody knows that conservowackjobs accuse us of what they see in the mirror.
Comment by bob (not the hacker) — May 1, 2007 @ 5:33 pm”
Exactly… It’s like the people who never shut up so you have to interrupt them to get in a one word response (like good-bye), and then they whine: “You never give me a chance to say anything!”
May 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pm14 Features of Rape-Public-Can brownshirt authortarian facsism
http://sociology.ucsc.edu/ whorulesamerica/ power/ bohemian_grove.html
May 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmhttp://www.bushflash.com/14.html
#96: Funny from the party that fails to provide our ACTIVE TROOPS with adequate equipment and health care facilities. IN FACT, BUSH HIMSELF REFUSES TO TIE IRAQ WAR FUNDING TO PROVIDING THE TROOPS WITH ADEQUATE TRAINING AND EQUIPMENT. Sure, there were liberals who voiced their opinions about Vietnam in the wrong way, but REPUBLICANS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERY AMERICAN SOLDIER’S DEATH IN IRAQ.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:01 pmI am sick and tired of neo-fascists (which let’s be honest here… thats the ideology these people are advocating) calling us traitors for being American. It’s both hilarious in its hypocracy and stupidity and scary in it’s scope. Spin in your grave Orwell… spin!
Seriously folks, if this gets out of hand we’ll regret not putting these people back in their place.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:02 pmCripes, only right-wing loonies will buy this obviously hyper-partsian piece of rubbish.
I saw a stack of Ann Coulter’s last book on the discount table. It looks like they couldn’t give it away. This clown is about 1-2 years to late to cash in on the “evil libruls” market fully.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmComment by valiantthehater — May 1, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
It’s called accountability son.
Oh yeah, the spitting on ‘nam veterans thing is a myth. Get over it. Move on hey?
May 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmValiant, do you honestly think anyone gives a sh*t what you think?
You hatefilled diatribes give me cause to skip every single post of your blithering nonsense. Almost funny. But more like karaoke in your closet at home, with nobody listening…
May 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pmMost conservatives thought we would be treated as liberators as well so their ability to judge has a very poor track record.
The sorry state of the rants from the vapid and the like show how desperate they are becoming.
Vapid’s blasting at #96 is an opinion filled anger fest. Scare tactic. Fear monger.
Vapid can’t fathom that the republican party has been hijacked and practically dismantled from what it once stood for.
It will take years for them to recover. I hope america can recover quicker from the damage they’ve created.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:03 pm#96………
May 1st, 2007 at 6:05 pmI remember every instance you have brought up in this post.
I was there.
You have an extemely skewed perspective of reality.
Just sayin’….
Not too many and not too many. The stories of the abuse of the soliders returning from Vietnam has been greatly exagerrated. Many appear to be apocryphal in nature.
And I know of no liberals calling our “current soldiers baby killers.” You live in a world of your own making, and clearly you get off making up lies and then showing your outrage for these imagined offenses.
That’s about as pathetic as you can get. Hope you enjoy wanking off to Patterson’s new book.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:07 pmBuzz is the traitor. Hypocrites like him are cowards with big mouths. They love war. They love to see innocent people die for their ideas. Anyone who disagrees, well…. The world has seen their kind before.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:08 pmLet the GOP try Patterson’s talking points again, seeing as how it was a complete disaster in the 2006 elections
The ONLY extremists now in this country are the ones still backing W and his worthless, ineffective escalation of troops
Choke on that trolls
May 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pm#96 valientthehater; you’ve been looking in the mirror again, haven’t you, hatemongering whore?
May 1st, 2007 at 6:09 pmVALIANT-DOUCHE-BAG-B*TCH you don’t know sh*t about progs or libs.
You are a scum sucking bigoted fat ugly sack of rotten crap, just suck on my behind till you are blue in the face, your non-fact accusations don’t mean crap. You are a lonely loser with no life who spreads hate because the world hates you, and yes you know it, you lonely hateful troll.
Hating Valiant the loser daily
May 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmFor us in the UK, hyper-patriotism died on the Somme. In one day we had 60,000 casualties. Valiantthehater doesn’t get this and glorifies war. For him it’s some goddamn action movie when he kills everyone, saves the world and gets the girl.
Word to the wise – it’s not like that. My family history is riddled with men who went and fought and died. It’s my goddamn ambition to stop it happening again. If that makes me a coward then so be it.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmThe enemies of the United States?
Like Osama Bin Laden?
Like the anthrax bomber?
The republican administration has done nothing…
…to find and take out those people who ACTUALLY attacked us;
…to give us an enhanced first-responder force to cope with a disaster;
…to stop the people who are selling nuclear technologies;
…to enlist allies in the global war on terror;
…to stop war profiteering;
Instead it has engaged in a peripheral military adventure, screamed at the top of their lungs that this is a war for our survival, and screw it up so badly they have destroyed our standing in the world.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pmUnfortunately, the accusations of Lt. Col. “Buzz” Patterson are nothing new. As Prof. Geoffrey R. Stone recounts in his extremely relevant book “Perilous Times- Free Speech in Wartime- From the Sedition Act of 1798 to the War on Terrorism”, the right to speak out whenever the United states has gone to war has always been fraught with danger for the citizens of this country. as when Congress passed the Espionage Act of 1917, restricting the rights of citizens and even the press during the patriotic fervor of World War I. Sadly, as evidenced by the rhetoric of Lt. Col. Patterson and some of those who have posted comments here, it appears that when the government and the military and others use the words patriotism and traitor, hysteria and fear seem to overrule reason, logic, and the U.S. Constitution, in particular the First Amendment of the Bill of Rights.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:10 pm?
“facilitating defeat against Islamo-fascism.â€
but… wouldn’t that actually be considered a GOOD thing?
that sentence is very akward… isn’t it?…
regardless of the fact there is no such thing as “islamo-fascism”…
May 1st, 2007 at 6:11 pm…
Heyzeus…
Save your effort for someone that can formulate a plausible arguement to the half-truths and lies perpetrated by this administration…
#96 is an IDIOT and COWARD that can only be described as a TRUE NEO_CON, that thinks a retriction in liberties is justified just as long as the OSAMA boogeyman does not get them…
THIS person is a pathetic excuse for HUMAN, and a waste of skin.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:16 pmThey never found the Anthrax Bomber because Bush/Cheney ARE the Anthrax Bomber. Why do you think the 5 scientists that worked at the Utah lab where it was made all died within 10 days of the sending of it. Just google-Anthrax Scientist Deaths.
Connect the dots
Hating the Repuke Mafia daily
May 1st, 2007 at 6:18 pmWell, the “traitor majority” in the House and Senate, representing the millions of Americans who elected them…well, we’re ready to bring our troops home with all their limbs and not in flag-drapped boxes.
Democrats, remember. NO MORE IRAQ WAR FUNDING BILLS.
No money, no war. The war is over if you want it.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:29 pm…spat on the faces of our soldiers who returned from vietnam?
…calling our current soldiers baby killers…
completely undocumented, unsubstantiated MYTH.
another L I E .
…
May 1st, 2007 at 6:33 pmThis guy is just another NeoCon National Socialist. National
May 1st, 2007 at 6:38 pmSocialists always call their opponents traitors. Actually, the NeoCons are the traitors. I AM a secular conservative republican. I can tell you that although the far left often pisses me off, I couldn’t live without them. I DO think the far left and far right have too much voice in the national political arena. I believe in majority rule, but these days we seem to only have the rule of one extreme or the other.
By the way, some of us right wingers are very sorry about the NeoCons. We thought they were honest. We were wrong.
Remember, if you have doubts about what to do or what to believe, follow the constitution and the writings of the Founding Fathers.
In the words of the GREAT contemporary Artist and vigilante, Ron English:
“JIHAD IS OVER! (if you want it.)”
http://www.popaganda.com/billboards/pages/billboard_jihad.html
May 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pmBush cultist: “how many Liberals spat on the faces of our soldiers who returned from vietnam?”
Wait, wait, I know the answer to this one. Is it…..zero?
May 1st, 2007 at 6:43 pm“Buzz”- cool name, like Scooter or Skippy or Pickles.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:48 pmJust another mental masturbating shill for the Bushies. Why do we even bother? It’s so typical.
May 1st, 2007 at 6:48 pmComment by valiantthehater #96
I’d LOVE to be able to spit in YOUR face…
…you son of pig-copulating inbreds…
May 1st, 2007 at 6:52 pmI can see why he never made full colonel!
May 1st, 2007 at 7:00 pm…spat on the faces of our soldiers who returned from vietnam?
completely undocumented, unsubstantiated MYTH.
another L I E .
Comment by katy — May 1, 2007 @ 6:33 pm
I’m sorry you feel that way. regardless of the current situation I happen to know it happened to some of our returning soldiers from Nam.
I am not advocating the post or stating that Liberals are traitors. I am simply stating that soldiers were spit on after returning from Vietnam. Some of the “Liberals” from that era are now Republicans/Independants/Libertarians anyway so the argument of then and now is irrelevant.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:16 pmThe left doesn’t need to destroy the military, the right has been doing a great job of it! I just heard on NPR this morning that many new Army recruits are high school dropouts, have criminal records, or are as old as 42!
May 1st, 2007 at 7:17 pmWhen celebrities (of a sort) be they authors, radio hosts, TV hosts, or the like speak in terms of such division – of such hatred – in such ad hominem attacks that have absolutely NO BASIS IN FACT, how can the country ever come together on anything? Obedient trolls perpetuate this kind of speech on the internet; they have no clue of what they say, they simply parrot what they heard or read.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:18 pmWill it take a civil war? Repugs against Dems? We are as divided as we were 150 years ago.
It sounds to me that they are ginning up for some sort of conflict like that. There is no room for dialogue when comments like that are printed, said, and repeated by others.
Nothing new. Strike fear, that’s what the wingnuts are good for. Come to think about it, they are the true traitors and they are the ones that have broken the military.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pmI just heard on NPR this morning that many new Army recruits are high school dropouts, have criminal records, or are as old as 42!
Yeah cause High School dropouts can’t ever amount to anything anyway. GED holders have no reason to belong in out military or doing anything more than pumping gas. 42!! What in the world are those old farts thinking trying to do anything anymore? They really need to be sitting around drinking Ensure and discussing the weather on a porch.
/sarcasm off
May 1st, 2007 at 7:28 pmTundra: “I am simply stating that soldiers were spit on after returning from Vietnam.”
Yes, but there are no documented instances of this happening. There is no verifiable evidence that this is anything more than a story made up by bitter conservatives.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:32 pmBuzz never made full colonel but he is a full cornhole.
-GSD
May 1st, 2007 at 7:43 pmGiving AID to our enemies?
“”David Kay, the former chief US weapons inspector”: “There were just not enough boots on the ground, and the military didn’t give it a high enough priority to stop the looting. Tens of thousands of tons of ammunition were being looted, and that is what is fueling the insurgency.â€
Bush wrote NO orders to guard munitions in Iraq. Rumsfeld deployed far too few CEA (captured enemy ammunition) experts, given the KNOWN (and previously locked-down) conventional materiel in Iraq.
“The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) confirmed Kay’s account and in a 9 November 2003 DIA report, noted the vast majority of explosives and ordnance used in anti- coalition improvised explosive devices have come from pilfered Iraqi ammunition stockpiles and prewar established caches.â€
–both quotes, Klingelhoefer Report, 18 MAR 2005 (US Army War College)
Al-Qaqaa’s 380 tons of high-explosives, including 194 tons of HMX (which is used in nuclear bomb explosions), are missing — handed out by Bushco to hostiles. And the considerable number of precision machine tools (used in nuclear bomb manufacture and enrichment activities) previously logged in Iraq are also GONE.
“Giving aid” to our enemies? Bushco has done that IN SPADES.
Patterson is a TRAITOR for helping Bushco cover up its CRIMES against peace, and its intentionally botched invasion, which guarantees death and destruction on a worldwide basis, for decades.
And Patterson KNOWS he’s a traitor — he’s just in it for the cash, screw the troops and the innocent lives Bushco is destroying, for profit.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:46 pmYes, but there are no documented instances of this happening.
And there is no documented proof of millions of things that happen everyday. Absense of Evidense is not Evidence of Absense.
A soldier describing it wouldn’t be evidence to some as it would require a reporter on scene to be properly documented.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:47 pmIr sounds like Buzz has a BUZZ. He needs to stop smoing CRACk, because it’s making him act like the idiot he is.
May 1st, 2007 at 7:54 pm#137 A soldier describing his involvement in a gunfight on a swift boat in which he won a bronze star wouldn’t be evidence to some…
May 1st, 2007 at 8:03 pm“Absense of Evidense is not Evidence of Absense.” –Tundra
Ah, Ronald Dumbsfeld is back! Apparently the dropping of the German indictment for his warcrimes has given him his war woody back. Beats crying, eh, Ronald?
“Absense” of “evidense” is evidence of your educational absence.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:05 pm“Absense†of “evidense†is evidence of your educational absence.
Comment by Paul in LA — May 1, 2007 @ 8:05 pm
Actually I learned that from Unbelievable. She provided an excellent link on it and I found it to be a valuable tool.
#137 A soldier describing his involvement in a gunfight on a swift boat in which he won a bronze star wouldn’t be evidence to some…
Comment by JPark — May 1, 2007 @ 8:03 pm
May 1st, 2007 at 8:23 pmTrue, but I am not discussing this with “Some” I am discussing it with you guys.
I am not a fan of John Kerry but I will never speak against his service. He did what he felt was right at the time and to question someone who makes an decission when their life is on the line is quite unfair.
A soldier describing it wouldn’t be evidence to some as it would require a reporter on scene to be properly documented. Comment by Tundra — May 1, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Yes, but the few soldiers that claim it happen, all have close ties to wingNUT groups. Sorry, but if it had happened, there would surely have been a number of witnesses. It’s all mythology – nothing more. There’s no documented cases of it happening.
As for the *professional* wingNUT victim that goes around claiming people are yelling baby killer at him – it’s amazing how it repeatedly happens to the same person, whereas it never gets documented as happening! He keeps getting paid to appear on Fox, and sent to rallies – seems like quite a *racket* he’s got going playing victimized boy. Sorry, but he’s a lunatic that needs therapy.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:31 pm“It’s not just the Democrats though but many on the Left — its faculties and administrations on college campuses, big media, Hollywood, and left-wing organizations such as the Ford Foundation, Moveon.org, United for Peace and Justice, etc.”
Everyone who is smarter than you! This “traitor” b.s. happened during Vietnam, too.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:33 pmIT’s called desparation. They see the end to the Republican party coming very soon.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:33 pmSo since America are rejecting Republican views we are traitors.
Yes they support the one man who has done more damage to our country than any President.
I really believe you must lack common sense to be a republican.
It’s the only way I can explain it
May 1st, 2007 at 8:37 pm“Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”
- Hermann Goering
May 1st, 2007 at 8:41 pmIt seems to me, being a vietnam vet, that accusing senior officers of treason, even if this guy is retired, is still a court marshall offence if they can’t prove it. We need to contact the AFOSI as to an investigation of his statements.
May 1st, 2007 at 8:51 pm#96 Strawman alert. I love that the tranny has to go into the way-back machine to smear liberals (with debatable data). Tell me, tranny, how many returning Iraq war vets have been spit on?
May 1st, 2007 at 8:58 pmThey want to try the crimes in the court of public opinion, like the COWARDS they are.
ALL WE WANT IS ACCESS TO OUR COURTS.
C’mon down, Tundra and the rest of your troll buddies, and let’s put THE EVIDENCE WE DO IN FACT HAVE (not your evident moral bankruptsy and unsubstantiated claims) before a Grand Jury.
We have MOUNTAINS of evidence of Bushco fraud and treason. You have? A handful of nothing that you just pulled out of the ass of another of your pseudo-patriotic writers. And the cowardice not to admit that you know it.
May 1st, 2007 at 9:17 pmSubstitute the word “Liberal” with “Jew” and you got yourself a Nazi manifesto.
May 1st, 2007 at 9:21 pmNice work National “Irrational” Review and “Buzz” Patterson.
Sieg Heil!
Top conservatives and Republican leaders have absolutely no reservations about calling Democrats, and by extension roughly 30% of the country, and people against the war (around 70% there) traitors eligible for execution… and Democrats don’t even have the balls to use the “I” word? Good lord, we deserve what we got.
May 1st, 2007 at 9:39 pmFellow Progressives and Liberals: arm yourselves. The Fascist (so-called) Right is not interested in half measures and they will not stop until they have succeeded in destroying as much as possible both overseas and here in the United States. Their leaders represent the forces of death and they are intent on forming their impossible Judeo-Christian dystopia, regardless of whether or not that plan involves killing Democrats and Progrssives. Don’t forget, one of these jokers was responsible for sending anthrax through the US Post Office to Democrat Tom Daschle. Mark these words: if you are a Progressive, a Liberal or a Democrat, you are likely going to find the other side giving you no choice but to fight and die sometime soon.
May 1st, 2007 at 9:43 pmConservatives are calling everyone you does not agree with them traitors is because they themselves have committed treason.
If they shout it loud enough the phrase will be useless when applied to them. And therefore dismissed as politically wack-Os. Just more useless words, nothing to see here! Move on!
May 1st, 2007 at 9:56 pmSame old, same old.
When are they going to find some new arguments?
BORING!
May 1st, 2007 at 10:00 pmThat stupid cocksucker needs a bullet in his brain. That’s the only cure for the kind of lunacy he has. Put him down like they put down Ol’ Yeller.
Why, oh why don’t these bad-ass neocons ever have the balls to say things like that to my face?
May 1st, 2007 at 10:26 pmWell, let’s see how Repukes felt about supporting their president in a time of war, circa 1998.
“Victory means exit strategy, and it’s important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is.”
-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)
“This is President Clinton’s war, and when he falls flat on his face, that’s his problem.”
-Senator Richard Lugar (R-IN)
“You can support the troops but not the president”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
“My job as majority leader is be supportive of our troops, try to have input as decisions are made and to look at those decisions after they’re made … not to march in lock step with everything the president decides to do.”
-Senator Trent Lott (R-MS)
“Bombing a sovereign nation for ill-defined reasons with vague objectives undermines the American stature in the world. The international respect and trust for America has diminished every time we casually let the bombs fly.”
-Representative Tom Delay (R-TX)
Treasonous traitors! To the gallows, every one of them!
May 1st, 2007 at 10:39 pm#156 Yeah, the Republicans are allergic to missions that actually get accomplished, like Kosovo.
May 1st, 2007 at 10:45 pmawesome. republicans lost the war in iraq and are in the process of blowing it in afghanistan too. they were in charge, they planned it, they launched it, they were wrong about everything, and they fucked it all up. but its democrats/liberals/academics/media/hollywoods fault.
May 1st, 2007 at 11:26 pmThis slimy shitbag is making my name look bad.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:28 amPut on your tin foil hats. You might want to block the truth when you hear it.
ROTFL
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:08 amComment by valiantthehater #96
’d LOVE to be able to spit in YOUR face…
…you son of pig-copulating inbreds…
Comment by big papa —
Mon chere ami grand papa,
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 amPlease don’t insult pigs. They are fairly intelligent animals. I saw a BBC documentary showing that they can learn, among other things, to use the computer better than dogs. Besides, even if you still don’t respect their intelligence, you will pobably find them tasty to eat. By contrast, valiant doesn’t sound tasty at all–would probably make you vomit.
“”adhering to (our) enemies, giving them aid and comfort. “”
This administration and its Congressional Republican MURDERERS have completed the following:
Giving the enemies aid and comfort by NOT PLANNING or EXECUTING the MISSION(S), in Iraq and Afghanistan correctly. You have NO Progress to SHOW! NONE! Just Failures.
Your Republican Leadship has FAILED at every single turn from the beginnning to present in this abortion of a mess that you created by choice.
“”adhering to (our) enemies, “” YOUR Republican MURDERERS have fallen into the trap of the enemies through their own mismanaged war and are now liable for what YOU have produced in Iraq.
You have spread MORE violence around the world by your ill – planned bogeyman wars. You and YOUR “GOP” have created a mightmare for the world. Further, more and more foreign countries see the mass destruction and death that Bush and his white house terrorists have created.
The Republican PARTY is guilty of TREASON!
A Military Familiy
PS > They couldn’t plan their way out of a kitty litter box, literally.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:54 amHey Buzz,
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:59 amLove it or leave it! This is our country pal. What rock have you been under these last 60 years? This is the United States of America, a Liberal Democracy for over 200 years! This is the greatest country to ever have graced the planet. It is a government of, by, and for the People! We defeated you guys, and your failed regime during WWII. But somehow, you and your ilk have come and taken over the government of this beautiful nation and ordered our military to continue the bidding of your failed “New World Order”. Now that you have failed again, you want to blame it on the majority of Americans who oppose you and your insane view of the world. Go crawl back under that rock pal, believe me, you’ll find better company there.
Don’t blame this lose on launching an illegal, illegitimate war – fabricating intelligence to fit a narrow agenda – corruption, incompetence and purposeful sabotaging to perpetuate an endless war to give outlandish sums of money to the Defense Contractors who profit to no end – short sighted planning – or any of the other gaffs by this administrations and the Neo-Conservatives hawks that misstepped us into this conflict, reinvigorating a centuries worth of Arab national due to US/UK/European/Israeli imperialism and hegemony.
No, it’s the fault of the people who point all this problems out instead of those who actually perpetrate them!
Thank God for Tom Delay.
His rationale showed me the light.
It’s not my fault that I’m addicted to meth! It’s the fault of drug counselors who point out the fact that I have an addiction.
(Note: I’m not addicted to meth this was an example – haha)
This guy needs to become a self-help speaker; he’d scam MILLIONS out of people!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 amA must read! Book of the year!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:43 amIt takes a pretty big man to call half of the country traitors. I wonder if Buzz’s body will be able to cash the checks his lying mouth has made. Seems to me that Buzz, and his new admirer Patrick1, like to throw out some pretty serious accusations without really knowing what the f@ck they’re talking about. Typical Nazi bullshit- lumping all “leftists” into one big homogenous group and then painting all of us with the same f@cking brush. Nice- really intelligent stuff. Real thoughful. A must read.
I like how the book cover has the boogie-men of the left: Michael Moore and Ward Churchill along with Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton. Typical guilt-by-association bullshit. Nicely done, Buzz.
I especially like how when a Democrat makes a pointed attack on one of Bush’s policies or actions these lunatic fringe wingnuts like Buzz and some of the trolls here like to make blanket statements about liberals in general. Nice stereotyping, douchebags.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:30 amFunny how you pick out parts of the article to your advantage, he didn’t say all the left, I’m on the left, but the fact is you can disagree with the war, but not get up and say its lost, set a timetable, unless private….and this is public therefore politically based, and on top of it all, Reid said to Bush yesterday that he wants an unarmed UN Force to protect Terror leaders to give a chance to be able to sit and talk to them. Does anyone, left or right really believe that you can sit down with someone who will blow up 200 civilians just so he can scare everyone to follow strict islamic law and follow Al Queda? You do realize that us on the left and our liberal ways are the most threatened by them and they don’t want to talk, its conform or die. Bush sucks and he made a huge mistake, but we need solutions now, not ANYTHING but Bush.
Please, can we wake up as the Democratic party and stop following the extreme left, follow our true values, and get the GOP to stop following the extreme right, then get together and beat these scum before its too late? We are American’s first and Rep’s or Dem’s second and right now we are being handed our butts because we can’t agree. I want a Dem in office too, but it won’t matter a lick if we lose in Iraq and the entire region goes to hell. Please, stop fighting over things that don’t matter now, 4 years ago the invasion doesn’t matter…MOSTLY THE ENTIRE CONGRESS voted for it and are now blaming Bush…Blame themselves and give a solution…a real one, not just one that scores points with us…the public. This is the biggest mess and most dire situation that America has ever been in and both parties are wrong.
And we need to stop bashing military commanders. If we knew what to do there, we would be the commanders. If our party knew and should have the right to manage it, they’d be the generals, and/or the President as commander in chief. But they aren’t. I served in Iraq but Iam not a commander. I agree that we should be there, but not by orders and if ordered to leave I will. But I’m not going to preach to you that we should be there….we just need to fix what we started. The entire country started. It was all fine until it got difficult. Then EVERYONE fell apart. There is no America right now. The civil war is within our own borders. Iraq needs to be finished properly and we can’t give up.
Seems Lieberman is the only one that understands the true threat and can work with others on it, looking for solutions. God help us all.
Tr3man
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmIt ISN’T the liberals who are taking veterans benefits away, making the injured troops pay for their meals, making them pay for their epuipment if it gets damaged.
I’d like all you ‘trolls’ to answer me one question. This government is spending $400B+ on the Defense Budget. Why are the troops not epuiped? Why do their families have to buy them equipment.
“Democracy is not about trust; it is about distrust. It is about accountability, exposure, open debate, critical challenge, and popular input and feedback from the citizenry. It is about responsible government. We have to get our fellow Americans to trust their leaders less and themselves more, trust their own questions and suspicions, and their own desire to know what is going on.”
Michael Parenti
I know I have posted this here before, but repetition confirms and strengthens. Maybe if enough people see that, they will begin to look at the way they look at democracy themselves. TP is a way to do just that.
To all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I don’t agree with you.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:40 pmThumper,
Please, as a Dem myself, and a soldier, I want people on myside to cite the truth, and less emotion. And state intelligent facts. Just to start with I have to ask, do you do know that a Troll is someone who sits on the sidelines and makes comments, generally false and not of their actual opinion, out of bordem usually to start an arguement or to bother individuals, luring them into a fight for not much reason at all? You know this right? Because calling a republican or someone who is for the war etc, aren’t trolls. Maybe you should search the definition of a Troll before you use the word.
You look foolish and then the rest of us get bashed for dumb comments by the left, lumping us all together….that’s not right, but it happens, we need to show we are the intellectual superiors we are, save the day and win with real solutions. Again, I’m on the left and I’m sick of people complaining of the right and just making no real constructive comments and critisizms. God help us if our side has just resorted to name calling and can’t come up with actual intelligent discussion for debate.
And please research the process of equipment procurement before slamming your own country for the lack of equipment and blaming America. Stop blaming ourselves. I’ve travelled around a lot lately, all over the world and people are laughing at us and how we can’t agree on anything, just bicker and fall apart. America is no longer great because we are no longer United….the United States of America. We have different opinions, not that the right is wrong, or the left is wrong. We need to figure out together what is right, explain points and convince each other, making concessions on both sides sometimes.
FACT IS ABOUT EQUIPMENT PROCUREMENT (and this is where you’ll get slammed and look like an America hater for blaming your country without really knowing the truth) People complain of replacing the Humvee because its not protected from IED’s but it wasn’t designed for that, its a fast strike vehicle. If it was full of armour then it would be slow and not serve the purpose they use it for. It takes a minimum of 10 years to develop, rework, test and start to manufacture any product the military uses, 20 years usually. The humvee was an example of that. 24 years. And many pieces of equipment are on the battlefield in testing. Do you want them to put new equipment on everyone and discover it has a fatal error, which will kill thousands of troops? I think its better to let it be run the way it should be. Like a cancer drug, or Vioxx or whatever, rushed to market for their wonders, turning out to kill people in the end. SUV’s flipping over and killing people and being recalled. Lets get this stuff right and stop blaming people. Think of consequences and as much as its good to speak from the heart, its not always the right thing to say. We need to be careful. Things get momentum, truth or not, and it can be damaging. TO OURSELVES.
Tr3Man
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmThe bloodthirstiness and racism of the so-called peace movement is indeed a wondrous thing to behold. Just because they hate Bush, antiwar activists are prepared to abandon Iraq and its people to chaos, ethnic cleansing and genocide—the inevitable consequences of a precipitous American withdrawal. But that’s a small price to pay, apparently, for the perpetuation of a Democratic congressional majority—and anyhow those creepy Third World wretches in Iraq have been murdering one another for 2,000 years. And those who hold such opinions congratulate one another on their enlightened compassion! The next time I hear some progressive bleating about Darfur, I may just toss my lunch.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pmJust scroll past the featherheads. Saves a whole lotta time, and don’t ever leave a crumb for them, and they vanish…simple. TRY IT.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:45 pmTo all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I don’t agree with you.
I think we can take it for granted that the above is mere rhetoric, and that Thumper will not fight to the death to preserve my right to point out that so-called progressives have in their rage abandoned logic, honesty and common decency.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:27 pmIn the conservative mind, free speech is synonymous to treason.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmThe amount of Ignorance on this comment page is mind-blowing
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:39 amHarry Reid is a traitor. Nancy Pelosie should be jailed under the Logan Act. Heck, Half the democ-rat presidential field doesn’t even think there is a global war on terror. Jack “ABSCAM” Murtha, un-indicted co-conspirator, is also a traitor. —– The Democrat Party: Snatching Defeat for the Jaws of Victory since 1968!
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:45 amTr3man, you are way out there. The fact is that I don’t want anything to do with the warmongering, religious zealots, and scared panseys of the political right. Scientific study after study has demonstrated that they are scared: scared of the unknown and would mostly like to do away with freedom because it causes uncertainty. These are the people who brought us Hitler, Moussolini, Stalin, and now Bush.
I refuse to kow-tow to these peopl;e and, quite frankly, despise EVERYTHING they stand for. There is no compromise in my soul with them because they behave in evil, nasty and inhumane fashions. I spent 40 years trying to meet them halfway but it is impossible, so I’ve now given up. I don’t want to debate them or even talk with them. They have gone entirely too far with their corporate agenda of death and money over people.
Republicans are scum, despicable louses whose ideas must be crushed, burnt and then salted so their warmongering ideas never resurface, because they are destroying everything that reasonable, caring people hold dear.
Over 600,000 Iraqis have been killed since Bush unilaterally invaded Iraq. Women and children murdered by our soldiers, depleted uranium lying around everywhere to poison future generations, and the threat of nuclear warfare being bandied about as if it were a slap on the wrist. My god, folks, can’t you see how crazy these people really are? They are the real traitors, not only to the USA, but to the entire human race.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:41 pmIt’s a telling commentary on the sad state of so-called progressivism that amid all the Bush-is-a-Nazi hysteria, not one of these characters can spare a bad word to say about the Islamofascist head hackers and suicide bombers who are the real mass murderers of innocent Iraqis. Nothing will ever persuade me that expressions of moral outrage from progressives are anything other than acting—and bad acting at that.
Displaying the condescending racism that has become their trademark, progressives dismiss 25 million Iraqis with the airy comment that they were better off under Saddam Hussein. How can these people live with themselves?
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:32 pmTom G.
There are a few thousand Islamic terrorists, who we stirred up by building bases in the holy land. Although, I think these people are uneducated buffoons just like Republicans, a few CIA agents or SEALS properly placed could have destroyed bin Laden and his leadership corps rather easily. War was unnecessary and I resent my government lying to me the way they did and you are a classic example of the kind of person we should purge from the USA and send to the Middle East, where your right-wing religious fanaticism will be more appreciated.
I strongly suspect that millions of Iraqis do in fact feel that they were better off during Sadam’s reign…after all, they could feed their families and live. With over 600,000 killed since our invasion and millions who’ve become refugees, it’s hard to suggest that we did the “right” thing.
Prior to the invasion, most intelligent people understood that the US would NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a true democracy in Iraq because the country was 60% Shiites, who would strive for a Islamic state closely allied to Iran.
You Republican fascist simply lied vabout your motives and decided to kill, maim and injure as many women and children as you possibly could, just as you try to destroy womens’ freedoms here and elsewhere.
NEVER Never try to lecture progressives on rascism, for you Republicans are the worst—>true bottomfeeders.
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:48 pmBuzz is right, the “progressives” see the military in two ways: As either villains are victims. Glad Buzz is speaking out.
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June 29th, 2007 at 6:07 pmSorry Comment by Doc
I’m currently in Iraq and I have asked EVERY Iraqi that question “Do you miss Saddam.” No one has said yes.
Democrats are some of the worse racists I have ever met.
June 29th, 2007 at 6:09 pmThe comments here opened with a rather ignorant remark by someone calling himself “IraqVet”…
“I know the KKK, Nazi Party, and basic evangelical terrorists of the U.S will support his position (Lt Col Patterson’s).”
Any informed person knows that the majority of those groups view President Bush as the leader of ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and believes that the liberation of Iraq was done on behalf of the Jews.
If you are going to smear Conservatives it might help to actually help understand what they stand for and dont stand for.
(And when criticizing me, please dont think that I represent Conservatives because I only sympathize with them in the war against Islamist fascism. Thats all.)
Anyways more power to Lt Col Patterson for speaking his mind.
June 29th, 2007 at 9:30 pm