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	<title>Comments on: In National Review, Conservative Author Says Most Liberals Are &#8220;Traitors&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Freedom Now</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3896360</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Now</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 01:30:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments here opened with a rather ignorant remark by someone calling himself &quot;IraqVet&quot;...

&lt;i&gt;&quot;I know the KKK, Nazi Party, and basic evangelical terrorists of the U.S will support his position (Lt Col Patterson&#039;s).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Any informed person knows that the majority of those groups view President Bush as the leader of ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and believes that the liberation of Iraq was done on behalf of the Jews.

If you are going to smear Conservatives it might help to actually help understand what they stand for and dont stand for.

(And when criticizing me, please dont think that I represent Conservatives because I only sympathize with them in the war against Islamist fascism.  Thats all.)

Anyways more power to Lt Col Patterson for speaking his mind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments here opened with a rather ignorant remark by someone calling himself &#8220;IraqVet&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;I know the KKK, Nazi Party, and basic evangelical terrorists of the U.S will support his position (Lt Col Patterson&#8217;s).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Any informed person knows that the majority of those groups view President Bush as the leader of ZOG (Zionist Occupational Government) and believes that the liberation of Iraq was done on behalf of the Jews.</p>
<p>If you are going to smear Conservatives it might help to actually help understand what they stand for and dont stand for.</p>
<p>(And when criticizing me, please dont think that I represent Conservatives because I only sympathize with them in the war against Islamist fascism.  Thats all.)</p>
<p>Anyways more power to Lt Col Patterson for speaking his mind.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896360', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Sanchez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Comment by Doc

I&#039;m currently in Iraq and I have asked EVERY Iraqi that question &quot;Do you miss Saddam.&quot;  No one has said yes.  

Democrats are some of the worse racists I have ever met.</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m currently in Iraq and I have asked EVERY Iraqi that question &#8220;Do you miss Saddam.&#8221;  No one has said yes.  </p>
<p>Democrats are some of the worse racists I have ever met.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896010', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Matt Sanchez</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3896004</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Sanchez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jun 2007 22:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buzz is right, the &quot;progressives&quot; see the military in two ways: As either villains are victims.  Glad Buzz is speaking out.

www.matt-sanchez.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buzz is right, the &#8220;progressives&#8221; see the military in two ways: As either villains are victims.  Glad Buzz is speaking out.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.matt-sanchez.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.matt-sanchez.com</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3896004', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: -the doc-</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3784965</link>
		<dc:creator>-the doc-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom G.

There are a few thousand Islamic terrorists, who we stirred up by building bases in the holy land. Although, I think these people are uneducated buffoons just like Republicans, a few CIA agents or SEALS properly placed could have destroyed bin Laden and his leadership corps rather easily. War was unnecessary and I resent my government lying to me the way they did and you are a classic example of the kind of person we should purge from the USA and send to the Middle East, where your right-wing religious fanaticism will be more appreciated.

I strongly suspect that millions of Iraqis do in fact feel that they were better off during Sadam&#039;s reign...after all, they could feed their families and live. With over 600,000 killed since our invasion and millions who&#039;ve become refugees, it&#039;s hard to suggest that we did the &quot;right&quot; thing.

Prior to the invasion, most intelligent people understood that the US would NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a true democracy in Iraq because the country was 60% Shiites, who would strive for a Islamic state closely allied to Iran.  

You Republican fascist simply lied vabout your motives and decided to kill, maim and injure as many women and children as you possibly could, just as you try to destroy womens&#039; freedoms here and elsewhere.

NEVER Never try to lecture progressives on rascism, for you Republicans are the worst---&gt;true bottomfeeders.</description>
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<p>There are a few thousand Islamic terrorists, who we stirred up by building bases in the holy land. Although, I think these people are uneducated buffoons just like Republicans, a few CIA agents or SEALS properly placed could have destroyed bin Laden and his leadership corps rather easily. War was unnecessary and I resent my government lying to me the way they did and you are a classic example of the kind of person we should purge from the USA and send to the Middle East, where your right-wing religious fanaticism will be more appreciated.</p>
<p>I strongly suspect that millions of Iraqis do in fact feel that they were better off during Sadam&#8217;s reign&#8230;after all, they could feed their families and live. With over 600,000 killed since our invasion and millions who&#8217;ve become refugees, it&#8217;s hard to suggest that we did the &#8220;right&#8221; thing.</p>
<p>Prior to the invasion, most intelligent people understood that the US would NEVER NEVER NEVER allow a true democracy in Iraq because the country was 60% Shiites, who would strive for a Islamic state closely allied to Iran.  </p>
<p>You Republican fascist simply lied vabout your motives and decided to kill, maim and injure as many women and children as you possibly could, just as you try to destroy womens&#8217; freedoms here and elsewhere.</p>
<p>NEVER Never try to lecture progressives on rascism, for you Republicans are the worst&#8212;&gt;true bottomfeeders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3784965', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3784706</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Itâ€™s a telling commentary on the sad state of so-called progressivism that amid all the Bush-is-a-Nazi hysteria, not one of these characters can spare a bad word to say about the Islamofascist head hackers and suicide bombers who are the real mass murderers of innocent Iraqis. Nothing will ever persuade me that expressions of moral outrage from progressives are anything other than actingâ€”and bad acting at that.

Displaying the condescending racism that has become their trademark, progressives dismiss 25 million Iraqis with the airy comment that they were better off under Saddam Hussein. How can these people live with themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Itâ€™s a telling commentary on the sad state of so-called progressivism that amid all the Bush-is-a-Nazi hysteria, not one of these characters can spare a bad word to say about the Islamofascist head hackers and suicide bombers who are the real mass murderers of innocent Iraqis. Nothing will ever persuade me that expressions of moral outrage from progressives are anything other than actingâ€”and bad acting at that.</p>
<p>Displaying the condescending racism that has become their trademark, progressives dismiss 25 million Iraqis with the airy comment that they were better off under Saddam Hussein. How can these people live with themselves?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3784706', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: -the doc-</title>
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		<dc:creator>-the doc-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 17:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tr3man, you are way out there. The fact is that I don&#039;t want anything to do with the warmongering, religious zealots, and scared panseys of the political right. Scientific study after study has demonstrated that they are scared: scared of the unknown and would mostly like to do away with freedom because it causes uncertainty. These are the people who brought us Hitler, Moussolini, Stalin, and now Bush. 

I refuse to kow-tow to these peopl;e and, quite frankly, despise EVERYTHING they stand for. There is no compromise in my soul with them because they behave in evil, nasty and inhumane fashions. I spent 40 years trying to meet them halfway but it is impossible, so I&#039;ve now given up. I don&#039;t want to debate them or even talk with them. They have gone entirely too far with their corporate agenda of death and money over people.

Republicans are scum, despicable louses whose ideas must be crushed, burnt and then salted so their warmongering ideas never resurface, because they are destroying everything that reasonable, caring people hold dear. 

Over 600,000 Iraqis have been killed since Bush unilaterally invaded Iraq. Women and children murdered by our soldiers, depleted uranium lying around everywhere to poison future generations, and the threat of nuclear warfare being bandied about as if it were a slap on the wrist. My god, folks, can&#039;t you see how crazy these people really are?  They are the real traitors, not only to the USA, but to the entire human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tr3man, you are way out there. The fact is that I don&#8217;t want anything to do with the warmongering, religious zealots, and scared panseys of the political right. Scientific study after study has demonstrated that they are scared: scared of the unknown and would mostly like to do away with freedom because it causes uncertainty. These are the people who brought us Hitler, Moussolini, Stalin, and now Bush. </p>
<p>I refuse to kow-tow to these peopl;e and, quite frankly, despise EVERYTHING they stand for. There is no compromise in my soul with them because they behave in evil, nasty and inhumane fashions. I spent 40 years trying to meet them halfway but it is impossible, so I&#8217;ve now given up. I don&#8217;t want to debate them or even talk with them. They have gone entirely too far with their corporate agenda of death and money over people.</p>
<p>Republicans are scum, despicable louses whose ideas must be crushed, burnt and then salted so their warmongering ideas never resurface, because they are destroying everything that reasonable, caring people hold dear. </p>
<p>Over 600,000 Iraqis have been killed since Bush unilaterally invaded Iraq. Women and children murdered by our soldiers, depleted uranium lying around everywhere to poison future generations, and the threat of nuclear warfare being bandied about as if it were a slap on the wrist. My god, folks, can&#8217;t you see how crazy these people really are?  They are the real traitors, not only to the USA, but to the entire human race.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3784527', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RightWingFascist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWingFascist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 05:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry Reid is a traitor. Nancy Pelosie should be jailed under the Logan Act.  Heck, Half the democ-rat presidential field doesn&#039;t even think there is a global war on terror. Jack &quot;ABSCAM&quot; Murtha, un-indicted co-conspirator, is also a traitor. ----- The Democrat Party: Snatching Defeat for the Jaws of Victory since 1968!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry Reid is a traitor. Nancy Pelosie should be jailed under the Logan Act.  Heck, Half the democ-rat presidential field doesn&#8217;t even think there is a global war on terror. Jack &#8220;ABSCAM&#8221; Murtha, un-indicted co-conspirator, is also a traitor. &#8212;&#8211; The Democrat Party: Snatching Defeat for the Jaws of Victory since 1968!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3783795', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: RightWingFascist</title>
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		<dc:creator>RightWingFascist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 05:39:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The amount of Ignorance on this comment page is mind-blowing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The amount of Ignorance on this comment page is mind-blowing<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3783785', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Karim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 03:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the conservative mind, free speech is synonymous to treason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the conservative mind, free speech is synonymous to treason.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3783622', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 21:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I donâ€™t agree with you.

I think we can take it for granted that the above is mere rhetoric, and that Thumper will not fight to the death to preserve my right to point out that so-called progressives have in their rage abandoned logic, honesty and common decency.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I donâ€™t agree with you.</p>
<p>I think we can take it for granted that the above is mere rhetoric, and that Thumper will not fight to the death to preserve my right to point out that so-called progressives have in their rage abandoned logic, honesty and common decency.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3782878', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: circusfifthfloor</title>
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		<dc:creator>circusfifthfloor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just scroll past the featherheads. Saves a whole lotta time, and don&#039;t ever leave a crumb for them, and they vanish...simple.  TRY IT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just scroll past the featherheads. Saves a whole lotta time, and don&#8217;t ever leave a crumb for them, and they vanish&#8230;simple.  TRY IT.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3782742', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The bloodthirstiness and racism of the so-called peace movement is indeed a wondrous thing to behold. Just because they hate Bush, antiwar activists are prepared to abandon Iraq and its people to chaos, ethnic cleansing and genocideâ€”the inevitable consequences of a precipitous American withdrawal. But thatâ€™s a small price to pay, apparently, for the perpetuation of a Democratic congressional majorityâ€”and anyhow those creepy Third World wretches in Iraq have been murdering one another for 2,000 years. And those who hold such opinions congratulate one another on their enlightened compassion! The next time I hear some progressive bleating about Darfur, I may just toss my lunch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The bloodthirstiness and racism of the so-called peace movement is indeed a wondrous thing to behold. Just because they hate Bush, antiwar activists are prepared to abandon Iraq and its people to chaos, ethnic cleansing and genocideâ€”the inevitable consequences of a precipitous American withdrawal. But thatâ€™s a small price to pay, apparently, for the perpetuation of a Democratic congressional majorityâ€”and anyhow those creepy Third World wretches in Iraq have been murdering one another for 2,000 years. And those who hold such opinions congratulate one another on their enlightened compassion! The next time I hear some progressive bleating about Darfur, I may just toss my lunch.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3782729', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Tr3man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tr3man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 19:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thumper, 

Please, as a Dem myself, and a soldier, I want people on myside to cite the truth, and less emotion.  And state intelligent facts.  Just to start with I have to ask, do you do know that a Troll is someone who sits on the sidelines and makes comments, generally false and not of their actual opinion, out of bordem usually to start an arguement or to bother individuals, luring them into a fight for not much reason at all?  You know this right?  Because calling a republican or someone who is for the war etc, aren&#039;t trolls.  Maybe you should search the definition of a Troll before you use the word.  

You look foolish and then the rest of us get bashed for dumb comments by the left, lumping us all together....that&#039;s not right, but it happens, we need to show we are the intellectual superiors we are, save the day and win with real solutions.  Again, I&#039;m on the left and I&#039;m sick of people complaining of the right and just making no real constructive comments and critisizms.  God help us if our side has just resorted to name calling and can&#039;t come up with actual intelligent discussion for debate.  

And please research the process of equipment procurement before slamming your own country for the lack of equipment and blaming America.  Stop blaming ourselves.  I&#039;ve travelled around a lot lately, all over the world and people are laughing at us and how we can&#039;t agree on anything, just bicker and fall apart.  America is no longer great because we are no longer United....the United States of America.  We have different opinions, not that the right is wrong, or the left is wrong.  We need to figure out together what is right, explain points and convince each other, making concessions on both sides sometimes.    

FACT IS ABOUT EQUIPMENT PROCUREMENT (and this is where you&#039;ll get slammed and look like an America hater for blaming your country without really knowing the truth)  People complain of replacing the Humvee because its not protected from IED&#039;s but it wasn&#039;t designed for that, its a fast strike vehicle.  If it was full of armour then it would be slow and not serve the purpose they use it for.  It takes a minimum of 10 years to develop, rework, test and start to manufacture any product the military uses, 20 years usually.  The humvee was an example of that.  24 years.  And many pieces of equipment are on the battlefield in testing.  Do you want them to put new equipment on everyone and discover it has a fatal error, which will kill thousands of troops?  I think its better to let it be run the way it should be.  Like a cancer drug, or Vioxx or whatever, rushed to market for their wonders, turning out to kill people in the end.  SUV&#039;s flipping over and killing people and being recalled.  Lets get this stuff right and stop blaming people.  Think of consequences and as much as its good to speak from the heart, its not always the right thing to say.  We need to be careful.  Things get momentum, truth or not, and it can be damaging.  TO OURSELVES.

Tr3Man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thumper, </p>
<p>Please, as a Dem myself, and a soldier, I want people on myside to cite the truth, and less emotion.  And state intelligent facts.  Just to start with I have to ask, do you do know that a Troll is someone who sits on the sidelines and makes comments, generally false and not of their actual opinion, out of bordem usually to start an arguement or to bother individuals, luring them into a fight for not much reason at all?  You know this right?  Because calling a republican or someone who is for the war etc, aren&#8217;t trolls.  Maybe you should search the definition of a Troll before you use the word.  </p>
<p>You look foolish and then the rest of us get bashed for dumb comments by the left, lumping us all together&#8230;.that&#8217;s not right, but it happens, we need to show we are the intellectual superiors we are, save the day and win with real solutions.  Again, I&#8217;m on the left and I&#8217;m sick of people complaining of the right and just making no real constructive comments and critisizms.  God help us if our side has just resorted to name calling and can&#8217;t come up with actual intelligent discussion for debate.  </p>
<p>And please research the process of equipment procurement before slamming your own country for the lack of equipment and blaming America.  Stop blaming ourselves.  I&#8217;ve travelled around a lot lately, all over the world and people are laughing at us and how we can&#8217;t agree on anything, just bicker and fall apart.  America is no longer great because we are no longer United&#8230;.the United States of America.  We have different opinions, not that the right is wrong, or the left is wrong.  We need to figure out together what is right, explain points and convince each other, making concessions on both sides sometimes.    </p>
<p>FACT IS ABOUT EQUIPMENT PROCUREMENT (and this is where you&#8217;ll get slammed and look like an America hater for blaming your country without really knowing the truth)  People complain of replacing the Humvee because its not protected from IED&#8217;s but it wasn&#8217;t designed for that, its a fast strike vehicle.  If it was full of armour then it would be slow and not serve the purpose they use it for.  It takes a minimum of 10 years to develop, rework, test and start to manufacture any product the military uses, 20 years usually.  The humvee was an example of that.  24 years.  And many pieces of equipment are on the battlefield in testing.  Do you want them to put new equipment on everyone and discover it has a fatal error, which will kill thousands of troops?  I think its better to let it be run the way it should be.  Like a cancer drug, or Vioxx or whatever, rushed to market for their wonders, turning out to kill people in the end.  SUV&#8217;s flipping over and killing people and being recalled.  Lets get this stuff right and stop blaming people.  Think of consequences and as much as its good to speak from the heart, its not always the right thing to say.  We need to be careful.  Things get momentum, truth or not, and it can be damaging.  TO OURSELVES.</p>
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		<title>By: Thumper</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3782330</link>
		<dc:creator>Thumper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 18:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ISN&#039;T the liberals who are taking veterans benefits away, making the injured troops pay for their meals, making them pay for their epuipment if it gets damaged.

I&#039;d like all you &#039;trolls&#039; to answer me one question.  This government is spending $400B+ on the Defense Budget.  Why are the troops not epuiped?  Why do their families have to buy them equipment.

&quot;Democracy is not about trust; it is about distrust. It is about accountability, exposure, open debate, critical challenge, and popular input and feedback from the citizenry. It is about responsible government. We have to get our fellow Americans to trust their leaders less and themselves more, trust their own questions and suspicions, and their own desire to know what is going on.&quot;
Michael Parenti

I know I have posted this here before, but repetition confirms and strengthens.  Maybe if enough people see that, they will begin to look at the way they look at democracy themselves.  TP is a way to do just that.

To all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I don&#039;t agree with you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ISN&#8217;T the liberals who are taking veterans benefits away, making the injured troops pay for their meals, making them pay for their epuipment if it gets damaged.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like all you &#8216;trolls&#8217; to answer me one question.  This government is spending $400B+ on the Defense Budget.  Why are the troops not epuiped?  Why do their families have to buy them equipment.</p>
<p>&#8220;Democracy is not about trust; it is about distrust. It is about accountability, exposure, open debate, critical challenge, and popular input and feedback from the citizenry. It is about responsible government. We have to get our fellow Americans to trust their leaders less and themselves more, trust their own questions and suspicions, and their own desire to know what is going on.&#8221;<br />
Michael Parenti</p>
<p>I know I have posted this here before, but repetition confirms and strengthens.  Maybe if enough people see that, they will begin to look at the way they look at democracy themselves.  TP is a way to do just that.</p>
<p>To all the trolls, I will fight to the death so you can say what you want, but I will not allow you to smear me just because I don&#8217;t agree with you.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3782330', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3782132</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 17:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how you pick out parts of the article to your advantage, he didn&#039;t say all the left, I&#039;m on the left, but the fact is you can disagree with the war, but not get up and say its lost, set a timetable, unless private....and this is public therefore politically based, and on top of it all, Reid said to Bush yesterday that he wants an unarmed UN Force to protect Terror leaders to give a chance to be able to sit and talk to them.  Does anyone, left or right really believe that you can sit down with someone who will blow up 200 civilians just so he can scare everyone to follow strict islamic law and follow Al Queda?  You do realize that us on the left and our liberal ways are the most threatened by them and they don&#039;t want to talk, its conform or die.  Bush sucks and he made a huge mistake, but we need solutions now, not ANYTHING but Bush.  

Please, can we wake up as the Democratic party and stop following the extreme left, follow our true values, and get the GOP to stop following the extreme right, then get together and beat these scum before its too late?  We are American&#039;s first and Rep&#039;s or Dem&#039;s second and right now we are being handed our butts because we can&#039;t agree.  I want a Dem in office too, but it won&#039;t matter a lick if we lose in Iraq and the entire region goes to hell. Please, stop fighting over things that don&#039;t matter now, 4 years ago the invasion doesn&#039;t matter...MOSTLY THE ENTIRE CONGRESS voted for it and are now blaming Bush...Blame themselves and give a solution...a real one, not just one that scores points with us...the public.  This is the biggest mess and most dire situation that America has ever been in and both parties are wrong.  

And we need to stop bashing military commanders.  If we knew what to do there, we would be the commanders.  If our party knew and should have the right to manage it, they&#039;d be the generals, and/or the President as commander in chief.  But they aren&#039;t.  I served in Iraq but Iam not a commander. I agree that we should be there, but not by orders and if ordered to leave I will.  But I&#039;m not going to preach to you that we should be there....we just need to fix what we started.  The entire country started.  It was all fine until it got difficult.  Then EVERYONE fell apart.  There is no America right now.  The civil war is within our own borders.  Iraq needs to be finished properly and we can&#039;t give up.

Seems Lieberman is the only one that understands the true threat and can work with others on it, looking for solutions.  God help us all.

Tr3man</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how you pick out parts of the article to your advantage, he didn&#8217;t say all the left, I&#8217;m on the left, but the fact is you can disagree with the war, but not get up and say its lost, set a timetable, unless private&#8230;.and this is public therefore politically based, and on top of it all, Reid said to Bush yesterday that he wants an unarmed UN Force to protect Terror leaders to give a chance to be able to sit and talk to them.  Does anyone, left or right really believe that you can sit down with someone who will blow up 200 civilians just so he can scare everyone to follow strict islamic law and follow Al Queda?  You do realize that us on the left and our liberal ways are the most threatened by them and they don&#8217;t want to talk, its conform or die.  Bush sucks and he made a huge mistake, but we need solutions now, not ANYTHING but Bush.  </p>
<p>Please, can we wake up as the Democratic party and stop following the extreme left, follow our true values, and get the GOP to stop following the extreme right, then get together and beat these scum before its too late?  We are American&#8217;s first and Rep&#8217;s or Dem&#8217;s second and right now we are being handed our butts because we can&#8217;t agree.  I want a Dem in office too, but it won&#8217;t matter a lick if we lose in Iraq and the entire region goes to hell. Please, stop fighting over things that don&#8217;t matter now, 4 years ago the invasion doesn&#8217;t matter&#8230;MOSTLY THE ENTIRE CONGRESS voted for it and are now blaming Bush&#8230;Blame themselves and give a solution&#8230;a real one, not just one that scores points with us&#8230;the public.  This is the biggest mess and most dire situation that America has ever been in and both parties are wrong.  </p>
<p>And we need to stop bashing military commanders.  If we knew what to do there, we would be the commanders.  If our party knew and should have the right to manage it, they&#8217;d be the generals, and/or the President as commander in chief.  But they aren&#8217;t.  I served in Iraq but Iam not a commander. I agree that we should be there, but not by orders and if ordered to leave I will.  But I&#8217;m not going to preach to you that we should be there&#8230;.we just need to fix what we started.  The entire country started.  It was all fine until it got difficult.  Then EVERYONE fell apart.  There is no America right now.  The civil war is within our own borders.  Iraq needs to be finished properly and we can&#8217;t give up.</p>
<p>Seems Lieberman is the only one that understands the true threat and can work with others on it, looking for solutions.  God help us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Redleg</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3781794</link>
		<dc:creator>Redleg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 15:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It takes a pretty big man to call half of the country traitors.  I wonder if Buzz&#039;s body will be able to cash the checks his lying mouth has made.  Seems to me that Buzz, and his new admirer Patrick1, like to throw out some pretty serious accusations without really knowing what the f@ck they&#039;re talking about.  Typical Nazi bullshit- lumping all &quot;leftists&quot; into one big homogenous group and then painting all of us with the same f@cking brush.  Nice- really intelligent stuff.  Real thoughful.  A must read.

I like how the book cover has the boogie-men of the left: Michael Moore and Ward Churchill along with Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton.  Typical guilt-by-association bullshit.  Nicely done, Buzz.  

I especially like how when a Democrat makes a pointed attack on one of Bush&#039;s policies or actions these lunatic fringe wingnuts like Buzz and some of the trolls here like to make blanket statements about liberals in general.  Nice stereotyping, douchebags.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a pretty big man to call half of the country traitors.  I wonder if Buzz&#8217;s body will be able to cash the checks his lying mouth has made.  Seems to me that Buzz, and his new admirer Patrick1, like to throw out some pretty serious accusations without really knowing what the f@ck they&#8217;re talking about.  Typical Nazi bullshit- lumping all &#8220;leftists&#8221; into one big homogenous group and then painting all of us with the same f@cking brush.  Nice- really intelligent stuff.  Real thoughful.  A must read.</p>
<p>I like how the book cover has the boogie-men of the left: Michael Moore and Ward Churchill along with Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton.  Typical guilt-by-association bullshit.  Nicely done, Buzz.  </p>
<p>I especially like how when a Democrat makes a pointed attack on one of Bush&#8217;s policies or actions these lunatic fringe wingnuts like Buzz and some of the trolls here like to make blanket statements about liberals in general.  Nice stereotyping, douchebags.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3781794', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Patrick1</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3781684</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 14:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A must read! Book of the year!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A must read! Book of the year!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3781684', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Deniz Yeter</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3781667</link>
		<dc:creator>Deniz Yeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 14:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t blame this lose on launching an illegal, illegitimate war - fabricating intelligence to fit a narrow agenda - corruption, incompetence and purposeful sabotaging to perpetuate an endless war to give outlandish sums of money to the Defense Contractors who profit to no end - short sighted planning - or any of the other gaffs by this administrations and the Neo-Conservatives hawks that misstepped us into this conflict, reinvigorating a centuries worth of Arab national due to US/UK/European/Israeli imperialism and hegemony.

No, it&#039;s the fault of the people who point all this problems out instead of those who actually perpetrate them!

Thank God for Tom Delay.

His rationale showed me the light.

It&#039;s not my fault that I&#039;m addicted to meth! It&#039;s the fault of drug counselors who point out the fact that I have an addiction.
(Note: I&#039;m not addicted to meth this was an example - haha)

This guy needs to become a self-help speaker; he&#039;d scam MILLIONS out of people!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t blame this lose on launching an illegal, illegitimate war &#8211; fabricating intelligence to fit a narrow agenda &#8211; corruption, incompetence and purposeful sabotaging to perpetuate an endless war to give outlandish sums of money to the Defense Contractors who profit to no end &#8211; short sighted planning &#8211; or any of the other gaffs by this administrations and the Neo-Conservatives hawks that misstepped us into this conflict, reinvigorating a centuries worth of Arab national due to US/UK/European/Israeli imperialism and hegemony.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s the fault of the people who point all this problems out instead of those who actually perpetrate them!</p>
<p>Thank God for Tom Delay.</p>
<p>His rationale showed me the light.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not my fault that I&#8217;m addicted to meth! It&#8217;s the fault of drug counselors who point out the fact that I have an addiction.<br />
(Note: I&#8217;m not addicted to meth this was an example &#8211; haha)</p>
<p>This guy needs to become a self-help speaker; he&#8217;d scam MILLIONS out of people!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3781667', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Quizmos</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3781593</link>
		<dc:creator>Quizmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 13:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Buzz,
Love it or leave it! This is our country pal. What rock have you been under these last 60 years? This is the United States of America, a Liberal Democracy for over 200 years! This is the greatest country to ever have graced the planet. It is a government of, by, and for the People! We defeated you guys, and your failed regime during WWII. But somehow, you and your ilk have come and taken over the government of this beautiful nation and ordered our military to continue the bidding of your failed &quot;New World Order&quot;. Now that you have failed again, you want to blame it on the majority of Americans who oppose you and your insane view of the world. Go crawl back under that rock pal, believe me, you&#039;ll find better company there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Buzz,<br />
Love it or leave it! This is our country pal. What rock have you been under these last 60 years? This is the United States of America, a Liberal Democracy for over 200 years! This is the greatest country to ever have graced the planet. It is a government of, by, and for the People! We defeated you guys, and your failed regime during WWII. But somehow, you and your ilk have come and taken over the government of this beautiful nation and ordered our military to continue the bidding of your failed &#8220;New World Order&#8221;. Now that you have failed again, you want to blame it on the majority of Americans who oppose you and your insane view of the world. Go crawl back under that rock pal, believe me, you&#8217;ll find better company there.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3781593', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Republicans are   M U R D E R E R S</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/01/nro-buzz-traitor/comment-page-4/#comment-3781502</link>
		<dc:creator>Republicans are   M U R D E R E R S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2007 12:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&quot;adhering to (our) enemies, giving them aid and comfort. &quot;&quot;

This administration and its Congressional Republican MURDERERS have completed the following:

Giving the enemies aid and comfort by NOT PLANNING or EXECUTING the MISSION(S), in Iraq and Afghanistan correctly.  You have NO Progress to SHOW! NONE! Just Failures.


Your Republican Leadship has FAILED at every single turn from the beginnning to present in this abortion of a mess that you created by choice.

&quot;&quot;adhering to (our) enemies, &quot;&quot;   YOUR Republican MURDERERS have fallen into the trap of the enemies through their own mismanaged war and are now liable for what YOU have produced in Iraq.  

You have spread MORE violence around the world by your ill - planned bogeyman wars.  You and YOUR &quot;GOP&quot; have created a mightmare for the world.    Further, more and more foreign countries see the mass destruction and death that Bush and his white house terrorists have created.

The Republican PARTY is guilty of  TREASON!
A Military Familiy 

PS &gt; They couldn&#039;t plan their way out of a kitty litter box, literally.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8221;adhering to (our) enemies, giving them aid and comfort. &#8220;&#8221;</p>
<p>This administration and its Congressional Republican MURDERERS have completed the following:</p>
<p>Giving the enemies aid and comfort by NOT PLANNING or EXECUTING the MISSION(S), in Iraq and Afghanistan correctly.  You have NO Progress to SHOW! NONE! Just Failures.</p>
<p>Your Republican Leadship has FAILED at every single turn from the beginnning to present in this abortion of a mess that you created by choice.</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;adhering to (our) enemies, &#8220;&#8221;   YOUR Republican MURDERERS have fallen into the trap of the enemies through their own mismanaged war and are now liable for what YOU have produced in Iraq.  </p>
<p>You have spread MORE violence around the world by your ill &#8211; planned bogeyman wars.  You and YOUR &#8220;GOP&#8221; have created a mightmare for the world.    Further, more and more foreign countries see the mass destruction and death that Bush and his white house terrorists have created.</p>
<p>The Republican PARTY is guilty of  TREASON!<br />
A Military Familiy </p>
<p>PS &gt; They couldn&#8217;t plan their way out of a kitty litter box, literally.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3781502', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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