ABC’s Paul Harvey Compares ‘Women And Children’ Killed In Afghanistan To 9/11 Hijackers
ABC’s Paul Harvey Compares ‘Women And Children’ Killed In Afghanistan To 9/11 Hijackers
On his News and Comment radio show this morning, ABC Radio Networks host Paul Harvey said “the media should put a stop” to labeling “women and children” killed in war as “civilians.” He said, “It was civilians, for goodness sake, who decapitated New York City.”
Dictionaries define a civilian as “one not on active duty in the armed services or not on a police or firefighting force.” Harvey disagrees. According to him, “Since the invention of the aerial bomb five wars ago, there have been no civilians.” In other words, innocent people who are killed in war are military combatants because they are victims of a military attack.
CLICK HERE TO LISTENPaul Harvey News describes itself as “the largest one-man network in the world, consisting of over 1200 radio stations, 400 Armed Forces Network stations that broadcast around the world, and 300 newspapers.” President Bush gave Harvey the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2005.
This isn’t the first time Harvey has callously wished for more viciousness in American war fighting. In 2005, he said the United States should use nuclear weapons in Afghanistan and Iraq. After recalling the use of atomic bombs during World War II, Harvey lamented that “we sent men with rifles into Afghanistan and Iraq and kept our best weapons in their silos.”
He then warned of the dangers of “civiliz[ing]” ourselves too much that we won’t use weapons of mass destruction:
We didn’t come this far because we’re made of sugar candy. Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and across this continent by giving smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans. That was biological warfare. And we used every other weapon we could get our hands on to grab this land from whomever.
And we grew prosperous. And yes, we greased the skids with the sweat of slaves. So it goes with most great nation-states, which — feeling guilty about their savage pasts — eventually civilize themselves out of business and wind up invaded and ultimately dominated by the lean, hungry up-and-coming who are not made of sugar candy.
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And hear this please. In Western Afghanistan, where NATO forces are involved in some of the deadliest fighting since January, among the 136 dead this morning suspect Taliban. But there are others, 51 villagers, mostly women and children. Might not the news media put a stop to such pulled punches wars as this, if we would just desist from categorizing civilians. It was civilians, for goodness sake, who decapitated New York City. Since the invention of the aerial bomb five wars ago, there have been no civilians.
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Hell, I thought Harvey was dead. Then again, reading his lovingly constructed arguments about the beauty of war, particularly WW2, maybe he is dead, and we just don't know it yet.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:57 pmwow. I'm speechless.
Thanks Matt for listening to Paul Harvey so we don't have to. If only all the republicans and bushies were as honest as Harvey: "Kill the brutes".
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmPaul Harvey is obviously getting senile.
Killing women and children is just plain wrong.
No exceptions.
And Paul doesn't understand that? That's sad.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmwow
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmDisgusting. I can't think of any other word for it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmHow old is he? 105? Senility has set in. Good Day, and good riddance.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:59 pmPaul Harvey is an idiot.
And now you know the rest of the story.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm.
Repulsive knuckledragging lunatic, and that's the real rest of the story as it concerns this frigging Bastard
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:02 pmSomebody drop an aerial bomb on Paul Harvey and see how he likes it.
Actually, this very issue has been debated since they started dropping bombs from Zeppelins. Harvey assumes this isn't up for debate.
"Bomber" Harris of the RAF was villified after WW2 because of area bombing of German cities, including firestorms at Hamburg and Dresden.
The bombing of Vietnam and Cambodia were widely protested as inhumane.
And Repukes raised a huge stink when Clinton bombed Belgrade. Chimpy demanded an exit plan and a timetable for withdrawal from the Kosovo conflict.
Paul Harvey just wants to sugar-coat war by changing "dead women and children" to a nice euphemism like "collateral damage".
I bet he's a good church-going Christian too. Hypocrite.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:05 pm“It was civilians, for goodness sake, who decapitated New York City.â€
And here's me thinking it was terrorists...So I suppose going on his logic all women and children are now terrorists.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:05 pmThis is the same argument that tyrants have been telling us for centuries - innocent people are our enemy.
nothing could be more disgusting than reducing an innocent human being to an enemy, or reducing them to less than human - a statistic/collateral damage.
a good read on this issue:
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm"Collateral Damage is Murder"
http://www.populistamerica.com/collateral_damage_is_murder
Paul Harvey once spent ten minutes describing the murder of two missionaries in Africa.
Of course, they were white and their attackers were black, so that made it a crime.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:06 pm.
So many medals of freedom, so little time.
Great judgement again Dubya.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmHe is apparently in agreement with Osama bin Laden, who told us that since the people of the US live in a democracy, he considered us all to be accountable for our government's actions and therefore, potential targets.
Harvey apparently wants to take it one step farther and blame civilians even in countries that don't have semi-functional democracies. In that regard, it seems to me he must be even more of an extremist than bin Laden.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmDead from the neck up apparently.
It seems I heard about his replacement a couple of weeks ago. Too late I guess.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmThat's typical Rightwing racism, not senility. Don't O'Reilly, Hannity, Savage, Rush, Mulkin, Coulter et al say the exact same thing on an almost daily basis?
"I've been to Africa three times. All right? You can't bring Western reasoning into the culture. The same way you can't bring it into fundamental Islam." - Bill O'Reilly who has also suggested the carpet bombing of Afghanistan because, as he says, " they (the Afghans) have not overthrown the Taliban and so they are equally responsible".
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:09 pm"Once upon a time, we elbowed our way onto and across this continent by giving smallpox-infected blankets to Native Americans."
And Paul Harvey thinks that was okay to do.
Jeez, what a sick, evil, twisted old man.
But that's what Chimpy gives medals for these days.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:11 pmThis is the same argument that tyrants have been telling us for centuries - innocent people are our enemy.
"Centuries"? Try forever. This is an existential harumph at genocide. It's a speech that could be made by red ants about black ants. Any population can just go and replace any population by any means necessary.
I want your shit? OK, I'm gonna kill you and take it. No rules.
I swear, white people are only a few generations from total savagery and sometimes it shows. I'm not sure they're ready for civilization, beyond stealing a few eastern ideas and learning how to eat with forks.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:12 pm.
Why do you Leftists support Muslims?
Thay hate you!
Grow up!
Let's levae Iraq so they kill each other!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmHow is it that I've never heard of "the largest one-man network in the world?" Does he broadcast in Los Angeles?
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:13 pmThis scummy guy is still alive? Wow, Harvey was probably the first radio blowhard I ever heard. That was in the 70s, and it was obvious even to a kid that he was just another crypto-racist idiot. He may be suffering from common senile dementia, but that's not what is wrong with him.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmHarvey always has believed that non-Americans are something less than human. He's pathetic.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:14 pmWho is "WE' here....? Whom does he represent and speak for by repeating the word 'WE"...? I don't think he speaks for the native Indian,the Afro American,the Asian American..and the majority of Americans....
Worried about ' civiliz(ing) ourselves too much that we won't use weapons of mass destruction'...
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmThe man wants to see blood, period.
"I swear, white people are only a few generations from total savagery and sometimes it shows. I’m not sure they’re ready for civilization, beyond stealing a few eastern ideas and learning how to eat with forks."
Your beloved Muslims commited genocide in the 7th century Jihad against Latins and Greeks.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmThey also exterminated 10 Million Hindus in the 10th Century.
Let's not discuss the Mongols, or China's invasions of Vietnam and Korea.
Yeah your great Eastern civilizations!
.
so by his logic, those who were killed on 9/11 were not civilians either.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmStand by for boos
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmAll muslims hate us?
Uh, 8 million of them are US citizens.
Some of them are my neighbors.
Jeez, what an idiot the troll is.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmAnother brilliant statement from a white, pasty-face, old, rich, privileged American. You can't get any more objective than that.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmPaul Harvey has had experience hawking all sorts of snake oil in his decades as a broadcaster. Why would anyone think he's not simply selling another product? When selling product, is it wise to point out product flaws? Or acknowledge dissatisifed customers? Even dead ones? He is using it as kind of a test, of americans stupidity. They bought all that other crap merchandise from him over the years, surely they'll swallow this as well.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmCoo Coo Coo
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmYou notice how Paul Harvey and Junkie Rush are both on Armed Forces Radio all the time.
But do they put on Ed Schultz or anybody from Air America Radio?
Infrequently and very reluctantly.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:18 pmPaul Harvey's views are disgusting ...subhuman. He is in sync with the current admin's take on raping of other countries for Oil, corporations instead of earth and turning our democracy into a retrograde version of the good ol' USSR....where secrecy & torture prevail... all done in the name of fear and someone else's idea of god.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmApparently the Joker doesn't realize the joke's on him.
Just riffing on Harvey style racism and it goes over his head. Must be a conservative.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pm.
Love the Polident smile.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmTom3,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:20 pmYour Muslim neighbors are here as part of their Jihad to conquer America.
They have Islamic supremist groups like CAIR pushing foer Sharia law with the Help of you Leftists.
Screw them.
I say let the Mexicans stay, kick out the Muslims!
Let's not forget Hitler, who murdered 11 milllion civilians, and Stalin, who murdered 20 million more.
Both the products of our great Western culture.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:22 pmAnd now you know the rest of the story.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:22 pmre # 34
yeah the smile is great, and so is the medal of freedom, bush's medal he gives to loyal traitors. In a few years those medals will be scarlet letters...
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:23 pmGood DAY!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmFriends, you might need Depends, like I do, to keep yourself from soiling your pants while receiving presidential Medals of Freedom. But Islamo-fascists don't want you to have Depends. They want you to have poopy-drawers.
And the last time someone wanted us to evacuate our bowels into our own trousers, we nuked them and a certain Mr. Sakitumi was so happy to be liberated that he founded Toyota and sold America his cars and every day since then he has phoned the American president to thank us for the generosity we showed in sharing our atomic technology with his heathen, backwards nation.
And now you know....the REST of the story.
Good-DAY!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmJeez the troll is insane.
A real whack job.
He probably has a white sheet hanging in his closet.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmAnother American War Pig, and a armchair warrior talking crap out of the face hole.
I wish we could send the Chicken hawks, all of the them, to Iraq, they would soon change their story, if they lived.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmYour Muslim neighbors are here as part of their Jihad to conquer America.
Well look at that! The Joker finally made a joke that was funny!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pm.
Must be a conservative.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:24 pmNope,
I'm Pro-Abortion, Pro- Civil Unions, Belive in Secular law, belive in higher tariffas, anti-Corporate Monoplies, higher Minimum Wage, Ubiversal Healthcare Isolationist, Pro-Alternative Energy and believe in higher taxes on those who make more than $200,000.
That would make me...
A Liberal!
It's just I don't have my head in the sand.
I'm a liberal, not a Leftist!
joker,
i say let's kick out the facists! you're at the head of the line buttboy.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:25 pmTom3,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmLet's not forget Mao, 80 Million dead!
Great Westerner he was, right?
Wonder what those NATO & US forces serving in Afghanistan-trying to protect those civilians so brutally suppressed by the Taliban-think of being told they're protecting "terrorists" as Harvey would describe them?
As was pointed out above, Harvey's parasitical views are par for the other lunatic neocon genocide enablers, and they need to be debunked on a constant basis, and shown as the bloodthirsty cowards they really are
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmI would think that the people who were responsible for 9/11 would be more along the lines of "trained militants" than civilians. And following Harvey's "logic" the people who were killed on 9/11 were collateral damage in the eyes of our enemy. Oh wait, some of them weren't brown so maybe not.
Do you get the impression that George Bush sat down and said, "Who are the absolute WORST people that I can give this prestigious metal to" or does it just seem that way?
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmIs Paul Harvey really worth the energy? Hardly anyone listens to him any more, those who do are as crazy as he is.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:26 pmNope, I’m Pro-Abortion
Bzzzt! Caught him lying on the first point.
No one is "pro-abortion." Next you'll be telling me that you support "the Democrat Pary" and live in "San Fransisco."
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pm.
Guy sounds like a whack job.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pm"Senile" you obviously haven''t listen mush to the right wing racist bigot, who has no love for Arabs obviously and should be exposed MORE, for being a right wing imperialist RACIST. Comparing dead Afghan children to terrorists, is something only a degenerate, supporter of mass murder would do.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:27 pmHe probably has a white sheet hanging in his closet.
I'm Hispanic idiot.
"i say let’s kick out the facists! you’re at the head of the line buttboy."
Wow, I didn't know being a liberal Democrat is a Fascist now!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmThe Moslems down the hall from me are nice people who work and have a family.
I seriously doubt they want to murder me in my sleep.
But those Repukes, they scare me. They're being whipped into a frenzy by the Reich Wingnut media, who calls me a traitor for not supporting Chimpy.
Sooner or later all those inbred gun nuts are going to start shooting people in the street.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmErgo, if we are all combatants, we are all terrorists. And if we are all terrorists, we should all shoot ourselves in the head.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmWhat a venom spewing, evil little asswipe.
What Harvey fails to recognize is that by his logic -- that there is no such thing as a "civilian" -- then the people who were killed in the 9/11 attacks were not civilians, either. So they were just as legitimate targets as the women and children in Afghanistan.
You can't have it both ways. We can't be outraged when we're the victims and cavalier when we're the perpetrators. In effect, by blithely dismissing "women and children," Harvey has insulted the memory of those who died on 9/11.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:29 pmGood catch, Grand Moff Texan.
I think trolls are catch and release in your state.
Just throw him back under the bridge.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:30 pm#44...Joker, a liberal uses the term "pro choice." Only conservatives use the term "pro abortion." Your republican slip is showing.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:30 pmRather than lament despicable episodes in our past, such as slavery of millions of African Americans, the murder of millions of Native Americans, Mr. Harvey revels in it. Like Bush, he conflates unregenerate, brutal selfishness with virtue.
Time to remind the sponsors of Mr. Harvey's 1200 stations that Mr. Imus' rantings were milktoast compared to Mr. Harvey's. Instead of a presidential medal, Mr. Harvey deserves to be osctracized. May the only white sheets he has to sleep in be the ones he wears on Saturday nights, along with that pointy hat.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:31 pmGrand Moff Texan,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:33 pmI am Pro-Abortion. It helps with population control and prevents unwanted people from coming into this world and being miserable.
Abortion is a necessary evil.
I believe Abortion is the most human thing to do to babay who isn't want and wouldn't have a chance to suceed.
That's why I detest the Christian Right and those holier than hypocrites.
That's why I detest Islam.
It goes against Liberalism and my values.
More goose stepping in public.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:33 pm"Why do you Leftists support Muslims?"
I support human beings. I don't care what religion they practice.
I do not support genocide against people who practice a different religion because that would violate my moral values. Perhaps not yours.
The US has maintained a functional relationship with predominantly Muslim countries for decades. Jordan, Egypt, Morocco, Turkey, etc. are not a threat to us.
The people who are a threat to us are the folks who - whatever their religion - believe that they have a God given duty to kill people who are different from them. Those people come in all colors, religions, and countries, including our own, as was proven recently in Blacksburg VA and in my own hometown of Austin TX (where a man attempted to bomb a clinic).
We need to deal with these people all around the world, but we are hampered in dealing with the real threats us because we are putting our defense resources into Iraq, who never attacked nor seriously threatened us.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmLet’s not forget Mao, 80 Million dead!
Great Westerner he was, right?
Communism is a western idea. Karl Marx was from here. You can read a map, can't you?
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:35 pm.
Ah the Pro-Choice usage.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:35 pmSorry, I'm Pro-Abortion.
I believ abortion si necessay.
The Pro-Choice argument is a slick way to try to debate the Religiousnuts on the Right.
I'm honest I support abortion and belive that the government should fund it.
... no... this is not the paul harvey i've loved to listen to most of my life...
no, no way... i haven't heard him for several years now - i know his son had replaced him at one point because of health problems...
even when he spoke about the world wars, he never had this kind of attitude, this kind of coldness...
nope... his mind is gone... this is not the real paul harvey...
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:36 pmhe is poisoned...
I'd like to grease the skids of my harley boots with the shit from Paul Harvey's brain.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pm"Your republican slip is showing."
Wow,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pmSo Iguess voting for Clinton in 96, Gore in 2000 and abstaining in 2004 makes me a Republican!
That's news to me.
Tell the DNC that sends me mail for contributions!
It's rather nice of Bush to visit the Wax Museum and help dress the dummies (figures).
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:40 pmGrand Moff Texan,
Mao was Communist on the surface.
He was Confusionist and an admirer of the 1st Chinese Emperor Qin Shi Huang. Like Shi he wanted to transform Chinese society killed Millions.
Read Mao's biography.
Wow,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:42 pmA Leftist attacking Communism.
Juan C will soon start posting attacking you!
Comment by The Joker
Your spill is as liberal as GW Bush, idiot.
There is nothing more disgusting than a neocon troll masquerading as a liberal, and doing a crappy job at it
Except for an asswipe, biggoted mass murder supporter such as Paul "kill women and children" Harvey.
I am Native American, you asswipe. Since it was my ancestor's land you stole with war crimes, it it ok if I come scalp your ass, Dumbsh*t Har-har-har-vey? (since your ass is the closest thing you have to a head)
It is hard for me to believe someone claiming to be a christian advocates the murder of women and children.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:44 pmBut then again, the vocal christian leaders are all doing this, supporting Bushco, while the ones opposing are quiet, like the moderate muslums are to the radicals.
Hypocrites all......
So Iguess voting for Clinton in 96, Gore in 2000 and abstaining in 2004 makes me a Republican!
And I'm Mary, Queen of the May... I guess it's is time again to state that this is the internet - anyone can claim anything. You can't prove any of it. So, if you can't prove it, it is wise to assume you're talking out your "liberal" ass ...
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:44 pmSorry, I’m Pro-Abortion.
I believ abortion si necessay.
The Pro-Choice argument is a slick way to try to debate the Religiousnuts on the Right.
More rightwing talking points and stupidity. Why am I not surprised?
If you leave it up to the woman and her doctor, you're pro-choice. If you want to prevent all abortions, you're anti-choice. If you wouldn't have an abortion yourself but won't cram that decision down other people's throats, you're pro-life.
The rest of the world understands this, you know.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:46 pm.
sooo, someone tell me why this intolerant racist over the hill white hood wearing pig is still allowed to pollute the airwaves?
oh, that's right, no one in america cares about THIS type of racism... OR is it something more obtuse like - he's a conservative so no one will touch him?
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:46 pmWow,
A Leftist attacking Communism.
Juan C will soon start posting attacking you!
Yeah, because Juan Cole is a communist, right?
Go back to plagiarizing wikipedia to pretend you know stuff.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:47 pm.
joker = jaker
to many false statements already.....
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:48 pmGrand Moff Texan,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmPro-Life?
Are you kidding me. We need population control!
Actually I believe that all people unde 21 should have abortions since having kids is expensive.
I am Pro-Abortion!
You don't know me, so I'll just laugh at you thinking I'm some Neo, Theo or any other type od Con.
I'm a Democrat, but you losers are so Far Left I must be Conservative for you clowns.
I'm support Bill Richardson in the primaries and if he doesn't win I will vote for Rudy.
He's the only type of Republican I can vote for.
He's Pro-Abortion and Pro-Civil Unions.
Oops, I'll say Pro-Choice to make you guys happy OK.
If Rudy uisn't the GOP nominee than I'll vote for Hillary.
I will not vote for Barack Hussein Obama or John Edwards.
They are Leftist Pro-Muslim loons!
I'm disgusted by Harveys public discussion and I recommend doing something about it. Here are his sponserships:
http://www.paulharvey.com/sponsorspot.shtml
I've already written.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmHarvey actually died 5 years ago and the Bushies mummified him. They now just have to pull a string in his back and he will spout Bush and Cheney war propaganda any time of the day or night. They are going to mass produce litte Paul Harvey dolls for the 28% who like bathing in blood every day.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmJoke - What are you talking about? Try to stay on subject. We are talking about whether or not it is appropriate to kill civilians at a time of war. We are not talking about liking or disliking Muslims. Paul Harvey mentions the last five wars. These last wars were not against Muslims. Trying to change the subject in the middle of a discussion leads people to believe that you are ignorant and I do not think you are ignorant.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:54 pmActually I believe that all people unde 21 should have abortions since having kids is expensive.
...
You don’t know me, so I’ll just laugh at you thinking I’m some Neo, Theo or any other type od Con.
Hmmm. Forced abortions under 21 doesn't = liberal, but it's a position I wouldn't put past any neocon.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:55 pm.
Grand Moff Texan,
Juan C is a Communist. I'll post some of his posts defending Communism.
just me, do you have a rebuttal for my post?
mmm…I know it is fun to throw things in the air…and communism this, communism that. Yeh, it´s american favorite villain. Thats why US had to kill thousands of peasants and farmers in Central America, so the seed of communism couldnt grow up, right? Yeah, US really had an A at that.
Comment by Juan C — May 2, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
I just happen to have the Communist Manifesto…a document that most of left should follow…and it pretty much says anything but the stupid things you posted. You studied economics…exactly where?
Comment by Juan C — May 2, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
can agree with that to some extent. However, Stalin and Mao were two thugs, that knew little about what communism means. Pretty much like the right wing. And Im not gonna use good or bad or evil to describe political issues. Im sorry I do not engage with that verbal misuse.
Comment by Juan C — May 2, 2007 @ 3:04 pm
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pmjoker,
you're not a liberal democrat, you may be strom thurmond democrat though... and you are a facist if your comments here reflect your true beliefs. you're probably a mole who comes here and posts outragious comments so your bigoted rright wing media friends can complain about all the hate on the left wing blogs. asshat
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 pmThat would make me…
A Liberal!
It’s just I don’t have my head in the sand.
I’m a liberal, not a Leftist!
Comment by The Joker — May 2, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
Yeah you're a liberal, and I'm the reincarnation of Thomas Jefferson.
We know what you're not, and you showed us what you are, a freakin' idiot.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmPaul Harvey is a daily contributor to WGN radio in my area. After many years of complaining to WGN about him, I have quit listening to WGN.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:00 pmI see the pompous arrogant old fool is still alive and kicking - he must be about 90 by now. He should have retired long ago, but he is a darling curmudgeon among repugs. He's the geezer version of Limbaugh.
When a Tribune writer did a feature on him a few years ago, I blasted him, and the reporter, who defended Harvey's popularity.
He got his son a deferment during the Vietnam war.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:03 pmHe's real strong on having someone else do the fighting.
They are Leftist Pro-Muslim loons!
Comment by The Joker
Go away neocon clown
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:03 pmNot one of us is fooled by your bullsh*t posts.
Your neocon speech slips through the masquerade, fool.
Ben,
"We are talking about whether or not it is appropriate to kill civilians at a time of war. "
Yes, the more civilians killed, the less pool the enemie has to recruit.
2 of the Greatest Presidents of the 20th Century FDR and Truman knew that.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:03 pmBy the way they were Liberal Democrats that understood how to defend our civilization.
you’re probably a mole who comes here and posts outragious comments so your bigoted rright wing media friends can complain about all the hate on the left wing blogs. asshat
Comment by bob (not the hacker) — May 2, 2007 @ 4:59 pm
ding ding ding ding ding!
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:04 pmLove the Polident smile.
Comment by Republicans are the Fear and Smear Party — May 2, 2007 @ 4:20 pm
A dentist told me of a client (wonder if it was Harvey) who wanted his false teeth in what the dentist called "Hollywood white " - totally artificial looking in an older person. After ignoring the dentist's advice, the brilliant white teeth were installed, and the man was happy. The dentist hopes he doesn't tell anyone where he got those dentures.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:04 pmBob,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pmSo were FDR and Truman Fascists?
I think not.
They did what was needed to defend us.
We need a leader like that.
Comment by The Joker
Hahahahaha.
Im Juan Cristóbal. Nice meeting you. Im not Juan Cole.
Im not a communist in the strict sense, it´s hard to describe and you couldnt possibly understand.
You are really stupid.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:05 pmWow,
So Iguess voting for Clinton in 96, Gore in 2000 and abstaining in 2004 makes me a Republican!
That’s news to me.
Tell the DNC that sends me mail for contributions!
Comment by The Joker — May 2, 2007 @ 4:38 pm
You are a LIAR. How does that square with your "values".
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:06 pmAnd to think, Zoo and I used to listen to this psychopath while making our errands. I don't seem to remember him being quite this crazy though...
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:07 pmWayne,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:08 pmWas FDR or Truman Neocons?
I'm not a Neocon if I belived in a one payer Healthcare system and higher taxes on those who make over $200,000
Hmm, naked Evil - not even a thong.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:08 pmPaul Harvey once spent ten minutes describing the murder of two missionaries in Africa.
Of course, they were white and their attackers were black, so that made it a crime.
.
Comment by Grand Moff Texan — May 2, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
No. Murdering 2 people made it a crime.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:09 pmThe right has become totally unhinged. This is the second time in a week that a right-wing pundit has said something so completely outside the pale. And they have a huge audience. I'm staying here in the People's Republic of Portland - it's too scary out there in middle America.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:10 pmmarie - i have some different memoris... i really don't remember him being so bigotted...
he had a 5 minute spot daily on my local FM top 40 station...
and another "rest of the story"... i always looked forward to listening...
enjoyed his stories...
i remember that i was not happy with his son's performance...
maybe that is the influence... but i haven't listend to radio much since
i got my XM and AirAmericaRadio...
darn... that is so disappointing...
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:11 pm...
you’re probably a mole who comes here and posts outragious comments so your bigoted rright wing media friends can complain about all the hate on the left wing blogs. asshat
Comment by bob (not the hacker)
Yep, and if you notice, this same troll ( using name batman, robin, randy and others ) usually posts on threads covering O'liely, Limburger and now Har-har-vey.
It always gets caught, by the neocon speech slipping through.
to quote Zooey, "he is dumber than a bag of hair." LOL
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:11 pmNo. Murdering 2 people made it a crime.
Comment by Kevin — May 2, 2007 @ 5:09 pm
Now, 600,000 civilian killings is a ... go for it, Kev. You are almost there.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:12 pmNo. Murdering 2 people made it a crime.
Comment by Kevin
And murdering unarmed women and children is NOT?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:13 pmWhat a piece of sh*t excuse for a human being you are, Kevin.
I recall a Harvey broadcast on the eve of the first gulf War, Desert Storm, where he called for the use of the Neutron bomb against Iraq. Killing everyone and everything in Iraq.
Not the sanest person.
If anyone has the ability to find it, it might be interesting to hear.
In any case it should be included in any bill of particulars regarding Paul Harvey being bat-guano insane.
And now you know... the rest of the story.
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"Yep, and if you notice, this same troll ( using name batman, robin, randy and others ) usually posts on threads covering O’liely, Limburger and now Har-har-vey"
Ha ha ha.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pmNice one.
I'm not those other posters.
I do Like O'Reilly, he calls it like he sees it.
Rush Limbaugh is a Republican hack, who spews RNC talking points.
Paul Harvey is a senile old fart who should be euthanize!
Juan C ,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pmGrand Moff Texan attacked Communism.
Why don't you educate him on the greatnest of Marxism?
You have to be fair and go after everyone who attacks Communism.
This guy is just backwards as the Taliban.
He lives in a pre-Trinity world (in his mind).
We have nukes now. Any invader that tries to take over America will lose their homeland and their loved ones and still will be facing a country full of angry gun carrying Americans.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:18 pmBrian,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:22 pmA tru Stalinst trying to stifle free speach!
Uncle Joe couldn't be prouder!
It's retirement time for Paul Harvey. He's mind is going...
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:23 pm"Any invader that tries to take over America will lose their homeland and their loved ones and still will be facing a country full of angry gun carrying Americans."
They'll also have Islamic Jihadi supporters like you joining the invaders!
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:24 pmGerald,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pmLeftists like you will view Muslims as liberators!
WTF is he talking about ... slavery as being something to be proud of and nations that do away with slavery go out of business and get invaded? What is he, crazy?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:25 pmThey’ll also have Islamic Jihadi supporters like you joining the invaders!
Comment by The Joker
Leftists like you will view Muslims as liberators!
Comment by The Joker
Patrick1.......
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:28 pmThey’ll also have Islamic Jihadi supporters like you joining the invaders!
Comment by The Joker
You people voted for a fool. Any thing you say has ZERO credibility... but if it makes you feel better...continue flapping your lips. Liberal Reasoned thinkers guaranteed that right for you in 1776.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:30 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:33 pmI didn't vote for Bush fool.
So there's no guilt on my hands.
I also don't support Terror organizations like you have admitted too.
Do want me to recall your memory?
111 - Oh no no no you misunderstand, he means that the blacks should thank us for letting them be such an important part of history! HAHAHAHAHA! He probably really believes that too
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:35 pmWow - this thread stinks... did the troll leave a fart?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:35 pm"Liberal Reasoned thinkers guaranteed that right for you in 1776."
That's Right Liberals that would be flabergasted at Leftists like you that support Islamic supremists movements.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:36 pmJoker - I detect an accent in your writing, are you here legally?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:37 pmGranloa Hippy - thanks for clarifying the slavery statement. Now it makes sense. LMAO
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:38 pmCoffins Draped with Flags ,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:38 pmI detect symapthy for Islamic Fascists?
Does the FBI know yet?
didn’t vote for Bush fool.
So there’s no guilt on my hands.
I also don’t support Terror organizations like you have admitted too.
Do want me to recall your memory?
Comment by The Joker
Please do. I bet I can list more right winger terrorist organizations already here in America than you can of foreign terrorists.
And I challenge you to put the truth where your lips are... show where I or anyone else on this site has sided with Bin Laden, Inc...
You know Bin Laden, Inc.? Like all those Bin Ladens that the bushies let escape from the USA in the days after 911 without being questioned by the FBI...
And what about Pakistan? Bush said that those that harbor and aid the terrorists will pay... well Osama is still free and the Taliban can jump back and forth over the border no problem....
Then there are the Saudis... they helped fund the terrorists that were here in America and their religious leaders continue to teach them to become terrorists...
And lets not forget the right in America. They not only engage in terrorism against our American citizens (abortion clinics... Oklahoma city... hate against blacks... etc.) BUT BUT they also created the terrorists that ended up attacking us on 911.
So PLEASE... backup that shit you are talking.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:41 pmSilence form Gerald,
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:41 pmAn open supporter of Hizb'Allah, Al-Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslims Brotherhood!
This thread officially blows. G'bye!
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:41 pmThat’s Right Liberals that would be flabergasted at Leftists like you that support Islamic supremists movements.
Comment by The Joker
Saying it over and over doesnt make it so... it only makes mental midgets such as yourself believe.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:42 pmAn open supporter of Hizb’Allah, Al-Qaeda, Hamas and the Muslims Brotherhood!
Comment by The Joker
Oh really? America has the rightwingers to thank for 911...
video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&q=The%20Power%20of%20Nightmares%20Part%201&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wv
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:43 pmAnd if anyone is curious as to why this thread blows, the reason rhymes with The Poker.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:44 pmWhy do the bushies AND the Bin Ladens want America stuck in Iraq until we cant get out and 58,000 Americans are dead once again just like in Vietnam? Why indeed? When we have the technology to blow up and terrorists that group together in any country on earth and IF our government was doing its job on 911 the few that sneak in would have ended up in prison instead of on planes...why indeed...
The republicans made secret deals the the Saudis and Pakistan... did they make secret deals with the rightwingers in Israel also? Did they sell out America?
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:47 pmHey Joker, It's not whether the FBI knows me, it's whether the FBI knows that you are here... illegally. I have nothing to fear from the FBI... but maybe you do.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:48 pmLooks like the joker has hijacked this thread. Paul Harvey is old news anyway. Always was and always will be a racist fool. bye....
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:50 pmPaul always sounds better in the original German...
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:51 pmNothing like degenerating into a psychopath in your old age.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:52 pmJoker - I agree (sort of). Mass casualties (as an example of targeting civilians) are one way of shortening a war. However, that implies that we are at war with nation states. We used CIA led Northern Alliance forces to oust he Taliban allowing the US "home field advantage" in a war thousands of miles from home. How does Paul Harvey explain how his tactic would have benefited that situation. In a world where tribal negotiations can be manipulated, to our advantage, to quickly and efficiently win large scale engagements, civilian casualties appear to be a counter productive solution to a different problem. To quote GWB, Paul Harvey is thinking the "Pre 9/11" way. I apologize in advance for the typos.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:54 pmpaul harvey ain't dead yet? i thought he croaked years ago but, i may be confusing that with his career
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pmI dinna get the connection, Joker. You're saying that if Juan Cole has a Communist Manifesto or thinks that educated people should be familiar with the ideas in the Communist Manifesto, then Juan Cole is a Communist?
You, laddie, are most definitely not liberal, if that is what you're saying. Although that does sound like that asshat O'Liely's logic.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:03 pmPaul Harvey is not senile. Stop giving him such a simple excuse. His statements are in league with Hitler, Goebbels, Attila the Hun, etc.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:04 pmGerald Gibson Jr ,
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:07 pmHa ha you just exposed yourself as a Jihadi sysmpathizer.
Thanks for proving my point Dhimmi!
" It’s not whether the FBI knows me, it’s whether the FBI knows that you are here… illegally. "
Ha ha ha!
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:10 pmFunny, I thought you Leftists are tolerant.
You guys support Msulsim immigrants but not Hispanic?
Ha ha ha!
Snarky McAngus,
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:11 pmI wasn't talking about Juan Cole. I was talking about Juan C who posts here.
He is Communist and has admitted it.
Ask, he'll educate you about Marxism.
Just ask him.
Comment by katy — May 2, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
He should stay with "the rest of the story" anecdotes.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:13 pmHis commentary has always been ultra-conservative and self-righteous.
Comment by The Joker
You sound like that fool that told everyone on here that only 1/3 of the early Americans supported the revolution... so I debunked you with Wikipedia... and then you laughed at that and suggested Britanicia ... which I signed up for and then they said only 1/3 of early Americans (most the south and rich fat cats in the north) supported the Red Coats...
AND THEN you pat yourself on the back and declared you were correct anyway...
No one has proved anything you have said and that includes YOU...
When I was sitting at White Sands Missle Range a few years back right after Osama got away into Pakistan... and I told that guy we would have to nuke Pakistan to get at Osama now.... I suppose that made me a "Jihadi sysmpathizer" to use your spelling...
You embarress yourself... and I only wish you had the balls to post your real name like I do so the future Americans can see who supported defending the Saudis by leading America into Iraq.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:17 pm"You sound like that fool that told everyone on here that only 1/3 of the early Americans supported the revolution… so I debunked you with Wikipedia…"
-Wasn't me.
"When I was sitting at White Sands Missle Range a few years back right after Osama got away into Pakistan"
I highly doubt that. You were cheering and celebrating the raid on NY!
"and I only wish you had the balls to post your real name like I do so the future Americans can see who supported defending the Saudis by leading America into Iraq."
Ha ha ha.
You're the supporter of Saudi Arabia.
You have stated your support for Hizb'Allah, Al-Qaeda, Hamas and the Islamic Brotherhood!
You can post links to all your Jihad funded sites with nutjob theories that have all been debunbked.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmI wish you would post your real name so Patriots know you to get rid off when the Islamic invasion begins.
The above statement was me.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:27 pmGreald,
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:29 pmYour just a Leftist punk who used to get bitch sl;apped in HS.
A pure Bith ass!
Your just a Leftist punk who used to get bitch sl;apped in HS.
A pure Bith ass!
Comment by The Joker
No I sat silently in the back because christians were "dorks". I silently watched and listened to your kind... I know you well... and your kind thought I wasnt listening, but was just reading my books....
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:33 pmHow old is Paul Harvey now, about 127???
He needs to retire with his Alzheimers and keep his opinions to the safety of his front porch and his rocking chair!
Disgraceful!!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:34 pmWe are losing track of the real enemy. Sandals.
Satan has been spreading evil through possessed sandals. Haven't you all noticed how men, who wear sandals, hate us? Muslims, Hindi, Psychiatrists, Liberals,S.E. Asian communists. I even suspect that barefoot Africans are wearing sandals during their secret meetings. You know, the meetings to discuss how best to overthrow Us.
Obviously, all we must do is nuke "sandal wearing savages" (and the barefoot nations) and we will achieve Paradise on Earth.
That could be our new immigration policy, as well. Any man (or fat woman) who tries to enter Our Country, wearing sandals, should be shot. Shoe and boot wearers will be granted instant citizenship. It's foolproof!
Soon, we will achieve a perfect society of shoe wearing European descent. Furthermore, we will have vast quantities of Patriotic, boot wearing, Mexicans to serve Us.
NOTE: If you aren't laughing, you're my target. I would suggest not trying to comment "on-line" if you can't construct a sentence, use a spell-check or appreciate sarcasm.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:44 pmSo you were that Herb we used to spit at and slap around.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:48 pmFiguered it out.
Hey thanks for admitting you're anti-Christian and Pro-Muslims.
Are you Muslims by the way or just a good dhimmi?
Either way you're a Jihad punk!
Joker - All you are doing is proving Democratic voters right. That republicans are ignorant and full of hate.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:59 pm"Joker - All you are doing is proving Democratic voters right. That republicans are ignorant and full of hate."
I'm not a Republican.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:06 pmEven most Democrats hate Muslims.
If it was for the Left and the Media both Republicans and democrats would drive Muslims oyut of here!
WTF is he talking about … slavery as being something to be proud of and nations that do away with slavery go out of business and get invaded? What is he, crazy?
Comment by Coffins Draped with Flags — May 2, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
Yes
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:07 pm
Comment by KingCranky
We sent men with rifles into Afghanistan and Iraq, and we kept our best weapons in their silos. Even now, we're standing there dying, daring to do nothing decisive because we've declared ourselves to be better than our terrorist enemies, more moral, more civilized. Our image is at stake, we insist.
No harvey. Not our image. That would be egotistical. Its our sense of "Am I a good guy or a bad guy?"... you on the right like to call it "your soul"... Do we feed christians to lions? No. Do we nuke people when our existance is not in question? Hopefully never again.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:38 pmHe's about as relevent as a pig with a pocket watch.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:43 pmToo many years on radio and maybe radio waves have scrambled his brains.
He has expanded the idea of if you harbor terrorists then you are a terrorist to if you are killed in a place where there are terrorists or insurgents, then since we killed you , then you are a terrorist or insurgent. What brilliant thinking!!
BTW Paul, the attackers wern't civilians they were Al Quaeda operatives.
Is this guy supposed to be a man of wisdom or just full of s**t.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:46 pmfinally, a medal of honor recipient of 43's that i AGREE with.
he is speaking the naked truth, and in his own cynical way, 43 gave him a medal for being another bushco mouthpiece not realizing that someone would ever care that europeans invaded our country, killed, raped, maimed, disenchfranchised, cheated into signing treaties, cheat on the treaties and essentially did their best to complete wipe us out so you all could have land, money, education and power.
pretty good bargain for slaves too? hey, better and better! how can anyone say get over it? no one's wealth would be possible with your forefather's willingness to be serial killers.
and NOW you know the fact part of the story, peace out.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:50 pmThere's another fist-f..ker that has out lived his usefullness.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:50 pmIf Mr. Harvey were correct, Germany would've been running planet earth since 1946.
May 2nd, 2007 at 7:50 pmSo Paul Harvey thinks profiting from slave labor, and giving diseased blankets to the Natives is A-OK, huh?
And apparently he has very little respect for women, children, Afghan and Iraqi civilians.
I feel sorry for that old wanker's family, because he's a cold-blooded old hack.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:07 pmMaybe he just wants them to be labeled "women and children."
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:09 pmJust another Chickenhawk bloviating. It's amazing how brave they are using others lives when they dodged their own opportunities to serve.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:13 pmWhat sick twisted bloodthirsty evil bastard. Hey Mr. Harvey ... that part of us that you think is made of sugar-candy? It's called a CONSCIENCE you heartless, psychopathic f*ck.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:23 pmWelllllllllllllllllllllll, I went to look up Paul Harvey's bio thinking he'd be another chickenhawk. Alas, he's aint no chickenhawk but helllllllllll I found something even better. He was discharged after serving for a year for mental illness. Now you know the rest of the story. Here's the link :http://www.s9.com/Biography/Harvey-Paul
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:50 pmJesus, he's still around? I'm forty five years old, and this guy was old back when he was on the radio when we used to pick my dad up for lunch after my kindergarden class let out.
I don't remember him being hateful, just practical and conservative. I guess it's true what they say about some kinds of dementia--they bring out the most repressed parts of a person.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:58 pmThe dark side of Mickey Mouse shows again.
Don't leave your kids unattended with the rodent.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmPaul Harvey (and those he serves)...
...deserve to bury THEIR children...
...but somehow I get the feeling...
...that wouldn't even matter to them...
...so they should get the chance...
...to watch their MONEY...
...turn to dust...
...that'll break 'em down...
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pmHarvey needs to be put out to pasture.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:13 pmAre he and Pat Robertson lovers?
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:50 amAbsolute filth... this is true pornography. This lemming makes me sick to my stomach, he is a disgrace to this country and anyone with a shred of morality left.
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:59 ami heard the Harvey broadcast while driving. after he stated this opinion he took ONE breath and immediately began hawking a margarine product.
May 3rd, 2007 at 11:04 amit was sureal, i was so offended that he believes the Twin Tower victims were not civilians, i didnt pay attention to the product name i wanted to boycott.
-banter "another Republican tired of the RepubliCON"
If you want to DO something other than talk to each other about this cretin, check out comment #77 for a link to the show's sponsors. Write them now.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:02 pm"Decapitating New York City"? Well, if he had been paying attention in the days following the 9-11 attacks, Mr. Harvey might have noticed that the press was making the point that while the loss of life was catastrophic, the property damage was minor: The WTC losses left New York City still with a 40% office vacancy rate and a skyline which hardly was changed at all.
Also, the terrorists all were killed, so they no longer posed a threat to anyone any more.
So, because some noncivilians knocked down a few buildings, noone should be considered a "civilian" any more? Or, is it that Mr. Harvey was hoping for a nice World War III a
couple of decades ago, so he would have something big to talk about?
The problem Mr. Harvey wants to address with indiscriminate killing is just that with only 150,000 against about 15,000,000 in Iraq, we never had a chance. Military wisdom is that a conventional force must outnumber a guerilla force by about 10 to 1 before the conventional force can win. We could kill them all with nuclear weapons, but that would leave our 150,000 troops dead, too, and a lot of oil wells radioactive and unusable . . ..
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:09 pmThanks for the link Brian. If they hear from enough of us, Paul Harvey will enjoy the same fate as Imus.
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:20 pmIsn't it time to stop talking to each other and tell ABC Radio Networks, this guy has stepped over the line and has to go? Link to http://www.abcradio.com/contactus.asp
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:28 pmanother rant from another lunatic.maybee the al queda crazies thought the same about the people they were killing in the world trade towers .I guess this just means we are all in the military,well i don't want to do another tour of iraq ,but i bet bush would go in my place since i'm a civillian now and he is the commander in chief or is that decider in chief i always get that wrong.In iraq my men were never asked to do what i wasnot willing to do or already had done and my troopers knew that I wonder if our boss can say the same,we all know the answer to that......
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:43 pmSo the WTC dead werent civilians? In my role as NYC subway rider, do I become a combatant if we get attacked that way, but not until we do? Or are we going to go to a fully militarized fascist society where every citizen is also regarded as a soldier?
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:16 pmPaul Harvey is "news & comment." He can and should say whatever he believes. I'll be livid if they take him off the air. I highly doubt Harvey believes women and children should be killed if it can be avoided. He seems to believe if we identify an enemy target worth attacking, we shouldn't let women and children stand in the way. Who would you blame? The country which caused a war (and potentially puts it's citizens in harms way?) A country which joins a war voluntarily but doesn't pick and choose where it attacks based on civilian population? A country which is attacked and has no choice but defend itself (do you think, at some point in the last X many years, that forces in Iraq or Afghanistan have not retaliated because they don't want to put their citizens at risk? .. I'm sure there were times they did - and also times they did not.) And - how do you win a modern war - or maybe I should ask how you end a modern war? Does a government say 'Uncle' when they can no longer defend their people? When their infrastructure is in ruins? When the military runs out of soldiers or equipment or guns or widgets? There is no one answer. At what point is it acceptable to continue losing your own soldiers because you are not using the full force of your military to force an enemy into submission - in this case to protect the enemy's civilian population? Can you blam Paul Harvey for being upset that American soldiers keep dying when he knows we have other options? I can't. Do I want "women and children" do die? Of course not. Neither does Paul Harvey. He's in a position where he should think before he speaks - but he shouldn't say what's PC if he really doesn't believe it. I hope Mr. Harvey continues to do his show as long as he wishes.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:34 pmWar is War and the victors are the ones that write history. Today civilians are tomorrow's soldiers. Women and baby machine and children are future enemies or friends. That is just reality and the sooner you bleeding hearts realize that the better the world will be.
War isn't suppose to be clean and pretty is dirty and painful and ugly, so that the generation that fought it doesn't want to ever do it again.
From the definitions of civilian, what do you call the people that flew the planes into New York and DC? Were they civilians or soldiers?
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:41 pmWas this little tirade of Paul's before or after his periodic lament about the decline of Christan family values?
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:44 pmFrankly, I don't find Paul as disgusting as the fact that enough people listen to him that he is syndicated on 1200 statiions. The quesiton isn't "what the heck is wrong wth Paul" it's "what the heck is wrong with us".
It is really hard to get all upset when the basic facts are so correct. America is a brutal nation in every thing we do, did, done, or will do. Before 911, we as a nation or through our business interest have raped & pillaged every country out there. For advantage, and we succeed, with our general living standard. Now, the price for this gluttony is coming due real quick.
So maybe we should take heed of this Harvey guy’s underlying statement & frustration. It is one of the lack of commitment, of our government & our people in allowing us to get here so peacefully. Those of us who saw the crime of what was/is going on by the Bush Team, is no less horrid than in 2000. No one took up arms or went to jail, or enough of us, were we just to tired to fight? Or to PC?
The real world out there is rough & mean, all the time. We as a nation do require a large standing military, to keep the bad guys away & to utterly destroy our enemies. The only option, which in a democracy should never be perceived as an option but the obligation of all it’s citizen to all the other citizens, is the Draft.
I’m a lifetime patriot, Liberal/socialist, Humanist, Roman Catholic, Viet Nam Vet, convicted revolutionary, defender of the Constitution, believer in a better America for “we the people’. I don’t love Mexico, India, Spain, Germany or France, just here.
The determination we lack is the same that our Democratic Majority Congress lacks in forcing the withdrawal, over turning the Patriot Act, ending the denial that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights or allowing the torture of “other’, while life goes on OK, day to day.
Truth is what it is, no matter the source or context of delivery. What we do by our action is now what our burden is. Know, we are the result of all that came before, but we are also the very beginning of all that will follow. The son does pay for the sins of the father, like our will for ours, all of ours. We can make the amount of the cost different.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:53 pmRight wing nutjobs go senile faster then the rest of us, because they quit using their brains early on in life. It's True! Now you know the rest of the story.
Wasn't it the Nazi's who killed women and children because they wanted to wipe out the Jewish race? That is what it sounds like extremists on the right in this country, and the right in the middle east want to do to each other. I don't think God supports that idea guys.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:59 pmDemocrats only worry about civilians when Republicans are in office. When a Donk President is in fuggetaboutit.....The firebombing of Germany, the nuking of Japan, the firebombing of Vietnam, the bombing of Serbia all compliments of Democrats. The list goes on. Screw the civilians, Harvey is right.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:14 pmWomen and children are used (and have been used) by our enemies as combatants (knowingly and un-knowingly) in war and in civil unrest.
We have seen women as suicide bomers in Iraq and probably Afganistan. The terrorist monsters do not care. They laugh at us because we have so many "rules" about fighting. That is part of why they are sure they can win. They are sure we will eventually tie our own hands to the point that we cannot fight.
We now see Idiots in Washington trying to tell the terrorists "Hold on just a bit longer and we will be gone!" I guess they think the "Domino theory" was only in regards to communism.
I guess they do not see the threat building in so many corners of the world. France, Spain, England and even us in the US have ever growing numbers of the extremeist factions of Islam taking residence and organizing for the "Holy War" against any that do not agree to practice Islam.
Hurry Lord, come quick!
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 pmHmm another antiquated radio host doesn't know when to keep his trap shut. We shut down Don "Dipshit" Imus, I don't see why we can't do likewise with Paul "Geriatric" Harvey; this is a matter of keeping our own house in order, so America can again be that guiding light these morons thought they could take for a couple of $ million....
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:22 pmAs bad, vile and gruesome as it sounds Harvey is right War is the worst thing man has come up with and the US prides itself on being the best at it. All those comfortably pecking at a keyboard should remember the bounty on "Indian" scalps was 5 cents for a man 10 cents for a woman and 25 cents for a child, contemplate. This indeed is the perch from which many pontificate, claim innocence, ignorance or absolution and carry on. When has war not claimed civilians or innocents. As I understand it here, civilians are the ones who declare it. War is killing and that is all. Some countries have discovered this and have backed away as have some people some have not
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:25 pmBest reason not to outlaw guns - people can continue to take pot shots and make assassination attempts on nutters like this abortion failure - Paul Harvey. What a pity the best part of his fathers genes got wasted down his mothers throat.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:29 pmOnce a piece of shit.....always a piece of shit!
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:30 pmApparently Paul Harvey doesn't know anything about warfare. Civilians aren't armed. When a civilian crashes a plane into a building, THEY ARE NOT CIVILIANS anymore. That's when you can label them terrorists or the "enemy" or whatever you'd like. They sure as hell aren't civilians.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:01 pmPearl Harbor was allowed to happen to stir up America's bloodthirst.
9/11 was demolished by members of our Government to do the same.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:03 pmthe world trade center was demolished by Americans.
you people sit here and argue amongst each other instead of dealing with the manipulators, and its disgusting.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:09 pmWealth + Influence = Power.
they do what they want regardless of "who" you vote for, & what political wing you affiliate yourself with. democracy has been dead since before Paul Harvey was alive.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:16 pmWhy not post the number/email address to the complaint line at ABC so people can do something about it?
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:12 pmHe may have said it "wrong" or where he stepped on some precious toes, but he is right. The people that have commented that war is ugly, brutal, not pretty are right, too. I started reading this thread, wondering why everyone was being so panty-waisted. So sorry your delecate sensibilities have been damaged! Grow up. People act like we had a right to this land and country--we didn't. We have it now, though. That is how the world works. If we want to keep our precious country, your precious toes are going to have to get out of the way or deal with the consequences. At the rate this is going, I would not really be surprised to see the fall of America within my lifetime (I'm 29, BTW).
You want to live in this country and keep what you have? Buck up. You don't care about America and want to make sure everyone else in the world is so well taken care of (especially when they don't give a crap about us), go live with them!
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:34 pmThis comment is on a par with Imus'. The only difference is Imus wasn't serious.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:55 pmHe makes me think I ought to change my family name to the old original spelling when the family came over to England with the Normans. Harvey is too embarrassing after this. Harvie is less of a problem. I would hate for anyone to think I am related to this idiot.
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:30 pmWhaaaaah? I think he should stick to stories about prune juice, mattresses, and random infotainment. "....and that is the end of my career" ...Paul Harvey....Goooooood day!
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:42 pmWell good grief! what a bunch of whiners - yes war is ugly, yes "innocents" get hurt or killed, but in the Iraqi war, have you figured out how many "innocent women and children" have been blown to bits by their own country men? Bunches and bunches. There are several writings on here that make some sense - especially, about if you love those other folks in other countries, you go live with them. But then others don't: another point about the terrorists that "died when the two buildings were crashed into - who do you think planned that mission? And where do you think they are right now? Knitting up a cozy blanky for when it gets cold? Not a chance in you in know where - they are busy planning on our downfall because we are splitting ourselves so that "united we stand, divided we fall" is music to their ears. They have only to wait on us to fall in our own red tape making. We are doing a mighty job there...
May 4th, 2007 at 2:06 amPersonally, I'll stay here, get myself armed as per the Constitution, and do my best to get the thieves out of Washington - nothing more could be more pleasing then to see them leave - perhaps requiring a boot- ectomy as they are out. I am not picking on any party - but just think that if Mr. Bush is gone, and then Mr. Cheney is gone, we'll have that witch Belosi as president and THAT scares me more than anything. Our beautiful country is rapidly becoming a police state - look at what happened in LA - looked like hundreds of very well armed police pushing people around and shooting rubber bullets and we are not sure what the issue was? Wake up America - there is too much wrong going on in this country RIGHT NOW and we all need to take steps to take back our Republic and quit making it a democracy. It's time to learn the difference and act accordingly.
I'd love for people like these to be randomly dropped on a random street in Iraq. Without any help and no one else around. To see how quickly they will be kidnapped and tortured and killed.
He's all safe in his broadcast room getting rewarded by the head fanatic in charge. All of them need to be dropped on the streets of Iraq and left to see the mess they have created.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:43 amSome people get what remains of their senile rocks off on glorifying war and violence.
The He is who He is became Human and refused to be as God, so he can remove our own tendencies to be as God and become hooked by a primary
orientation to possession, power, and position.
As a military vet, and ex-"consultant" all over the middle east during the Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan; I can tell you war is sick. Let us never
glorify it.
For me, it is the ultimate form of necrophilic S & M. I never got my kicks out of it, but some like Paul Harvey obviously have orgasms about killing people in a wing - nut "survival of the fittest" social darwinism layered over with a touch of religion.
The senile old, self divinizing sadist Paul Harvey can relax and enjoy himself. His comments have revealed his own two toed clubbed feeted, warped state of mind.
Now, to to paraphrase St. Woody Allen, in "without feathers", he's probably now mostly concerned that there is no life after death, and equally worried that there just might be one.
Heaven and hell are not places but permanent states of mind and heart.
Let us bless Paul Harvey, and wish him all the best in an eternity in the company of people who feel, think and talk just like himself.
Like attracts like. Really, this nut case is weirder than the second ideologist nut case in Hitler's 3rd Empire - a crazy Kahazan Lithuanian Jew who wrote "Myth of the 20th Century" - Goedel Rosenberg.
Serious students of anti-fasciasm should look at what Rosenberg wrote for the Nazis. And when Tom Delay calls liberals like myself Nazis, it only reveals his own ignorance.
Current hostile wing nut rhetoric is bad. Here in Germany, I crack a joke which draws a laugh from across all political lines. "What is the difference between Germany and the America of George W. Bush? "The German's have it behind them."
Now, in a penetrating analysis of "The Authoritarian Personality", Chapter on the Religious Materials, Theodore Adorno, a Lutehran of Jewish Catholic descent wrote a stunning analysis that still grabs me thirty years after
I read it. I cite from memory so the citation may partially inaccurate in its working.
"Christianity is not without its problematic elements. There is this logical paradox of God becoming man, which is the same as saying that the Divine became Human, the Infinite-Finite as it were. Unless this paradox is constantly kept at the center of Christian devotion, it is likely to lead to hostility towards scapegoats and outgroups like the Jews.
(what is the difference between Jews and Moslems? The Jews have it behind them.)
Anyway, Harvey the hateful old wing nut never really understood the bible it seems -"Beat your swords into plowshares".
What some of us military veteran Christians and democrats (small d) are more concerned about is this:
"How do we salvage what little remains of our Judeo Christian heritage from the genocide of the American Indians, the Ashes of Ausschitz, and
Hiroshima?"
Serious European Christians such as Lutheran Pastor Helmut Gollwitzer and Josef Ratzinger, now Pope Benedict, have dedicated their lives to this sacred task.
As it says in Deuteromy - "Behold I set before thee life and death, therefore chose life."
Paul Harvey has chosen a death of a spiritual kind, and he shall join those who have chosen death soon enough. There is no reason for us to wish it upon him. Heaven and hell are not places, but states of mind.
May the Peace of Our Lord be with the sane Americans. Or as my Iraqi exile friends here in Munich say - "Allahim Salaam" - May the Peace of God be with you.
Agape: Kent, old time Roosevelt Democratic Liberal.
May 4th, 2007 at 10:31 amHow sad. I remember Paul Harvey's voice of sanity and humor from the 70s, when I was a small child and my mother listened to him faithfully. I'm glad my mother is dead so she didn't have to hear Harvey be so completely un-Christian. How sad. I hope someone in his family can convince him to retire; such violent and horrible thoughts are best kept to discussions at the kitchen table!
May 4th, 2007 at 3:06 pmPaul Harvey you sound like a Communist!! Bet you were a Hitler sympathizer!
I can't believe an intelligent, compassionate American could think like this. Your an embarassment to our country Mr Harvey!!
You have no business giving your thoughts on Iraq--unless you have a family member going to Iraq, in Iraq or who has been to Iraq--then you just need to shut up! We don't want your opinion!!
Your brain cells are dying--give it up!
May 4th, 2007 at 4:12 pmI think I'm going to hurl...
May 4th, 2007 at 4:57 pmI think he should be taken to a vet and be put down..
May 4th, 2007 at 4:58 pmKate McWhirt - you sound like a real John Wayne. So when are you gonna go over to Iraq and fight those dirty insurgents? Have you ever been in combat?
May 4th, 2007 at 5:04 pmI'm sad seeing how some people is feeding hate.
May 4th, 2007 at 11:26 pmLicentious, lugubrious, & pusilanimous lemmings lamenting monotonectally, our evolved civilized nature, over the Public Air Waves, via Disney's ABC, & the Consolidated, corporatist Media Monopoly, etcetra, etc... It's a small, small world, full of small minded, mean-spirited, sub-humanoid, Neocon cretins, devoted to devolution. G.O.P.= Greed Over Principle.
"You never refrain from killing civilians, if it's necessary to defeat the enemy." - Ex CIA spook, Michael Schuer on Bill O'Really last wk.
The Bosnian war was a pointless war, the only war the Liberals want to fight is Darfur." - mAnn Cultwhore on insHannity & Colmes last wk.
"Soldiers are just cowards w/ their backs against the wall. The lowest IQd men in our society . . . their choice in life: prison, or the military. Some will have to die in support of the cause." -mAnn Cultwhore 11/06/03
To act inconsideratly w/out strategy & later be afraid is bravery w/out firmness, which is extremely incompetent. - Master Li Quan-Sun Tzu's Art of War.
The GOP constantly whines that, "If we leave, they will follow us home!" It's just another piss-poor rendition of their Domino theory, version 2.0. So what's stopping them from attacking us now, while our forces are over-deployed, stretched to the breaking pt.? As is their equipment, & they are over-fatigued, which causes accidents. IMHO, we are more vulnerable to attack w/ our GIs occupying Iraq, while exacerbating the status quo, than if we re-deployed to Afghanistan, to fight Al Qaeda. Our GIs in Iraq are nothing more than moving targets in a battlefield training ground for the bad-guys. When the Iraqis standup, our GIs will continue to be shot down& blown-up.
Sup w/ that? It's another NincompooPNAC Rx for XS-FX...to expedite the PNAC trade, . . . . blood for oil!
Bu$hCo is getting frugal now, it's far cheaper to pay death benefits, than life-long medical, & mental health care for our veterans.
"There is a certain pop-psychology in the US, that the Sunni & the Shia can't get along. There is almost no evidence of that." - Wm. Kristol after Shock & Awe.
May 5th, 2007 at 10:20 amWarm regards, peace-out.
189 - a tribute to the American school system. Ignorant of the Constitution, rule of law, Geneva Convention, and any smidgin of any ethical system on the planet.
When I see patriots like this, I'm glad I left -- and I didn't need his invitation to do so.
Remember, kid, what goes around, comes around. Maybe -- at your eminently mature age of 29, you should have enlisted to fight the good fight with an assault weapon instead of your fingers.
Take Kate with you.
May 7th, 2007 at 6:57 amI'm happy to know that I'm not the only one who thinks that this man is a complete and utter idiot. I love listening to WGN in Chicago, but it just chaps me that I must be subjected to his bigoted comments. I don't remember the issue not too long ago, only that it dealt with Hispanics, but Harvey's comment sticks in my mind. He was apparently upset over what he perceived as preferential treatment of Hispanics and called it "the browning of America". How can any self-respecting radio station carry this man? I would be willing to be part of any letter writing campaign to remove him from the air.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:51 amLeave Harvey alone for one he is a veteran as I am.And I am also a Republican.Which is why I dont want to cut and run in Iraq.And guess what?I am going again 3rd time.And by the way we are not raping countries for oil you moran anti american liberals.Ive seen Mexicans who love this country more then you people.I wish all defeatist democrats would leave.Not a racist just someone who says it is time to stop letting Islamofacists push us around. Good DAY!!!!
May 9th, 2007 at 2:06 pmThat's just disgusting.
Six years have passed since 9/11 and people still don't know who did what and who's who???????
How unbelievably ignorant and barbaric of him to say. This proves Paul Harvey doesn't even know what he's talking about. Afghans don't even support terrorist groups.
First of all, Al Queda was accused of committing 9/11 and secondly they're Saudi Arabian, not Afghan!!!! So it makes me wonder why this idiot is labelling innocent victims of war as those who "decapitated New York City". Sick bastard... and why am I not surprised to see a picture of Bush rewarding him.
May 9th, 2007 at 11:39 pmI had no idea Paul Harvey was even still alive. I used to listen to him when I was a little kid (this was quite awhile ago.) He never seemed this... psychotic then. He was this folksy guy who told stories. Now he seems to think the deaths of innocent children are meaningless? Wow. Just goes to show you, you can't ever know someone just from listening to them on the media...
So... question for ya Paul. Are you saying then that everyone who died in the Holocaust, none of them were civilians either? Because they most certainly died in a war.
No, that won't be personal enough for you. Let's get closer to home, and see if you can feel ANYTHING, or if you are completely, sociopathically numb.
You like storytelling, right?
Say some terrorist decides to bomb Chicago. Let's say your family is eating dinner and they're all killed in the blast. Because the United States is engaged in this open-ended "War on Terror" -- yes, we've decided that it is a war, so any terrorism that occurs now is part of this war -- that means that by your rules, your family is now just collateral. No longer civilians. By your rules, they doesn't matter.
Or were you just referring to people in other countries? Perhaps people with darker skin, who speak a different language than you do.
That's what you're saying, right Paul? Or would you like to re-think that?
May 20th, 2007 at 10:53 pmTo Raoul:
June 20th, 2007 at 3:35 amI would be a John Wayne if I were a man. And no, I have not been in combat as in war. I don;t think they would take me because I am too old, disabled and have to have a cane to walk. Other than those few things, I would go in a heartbeat. I think the way I am, I would make a great grandma target. Think I'll pass.
How about you? What combat have you been in other than posting your trash "I am going hurl" and such.
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