House falls short of votes to overturn Bush’s Iraq veto.
House falls short of votes to overturn Bush’s Iraq veto.
MSNBC reports: “By a vote of 222-203, U.S. House fails to overturn Bush’s veto of Iraq bill.”
UPDATE: Seven Democrats broke rank and voted to uphold Bush’s veto: John Barrow (GA), Dan Boren, (OK), Lincoln Davis (TN), Jim Marshall (GA), Jim Matheson (UT), Michael McNulty (NY), and Gene Taylor (MS)
UPDATE II: Democrats Barbara Lee (CA), John Lewis (GA), Michael Michaud (ME), Maxine Waters (CA), and Lynn Woolsey (CA) voted against the original bill, but voted to override Bush’s veto. Democrat Pete Stark (CA) voted “present” during the original vote, but also joined the the override vote today, as did Jim Costa (CA) who initially abstained.
UPDATE III: Two Republicans broke rank and voted to override Bush’s veto: Wayne Gilchrest (MD) and Walter Jones (NC).
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Well then…..
Make just a MINOR change to the bill and send it back to the shrub!!!
He is the one who is depriving the troops what they need by is IGNORANCE!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:47 pmDamn.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:48 pmI stll do not undrstand the point of overturning the veto?? Just let the veto stand. Bush asked for money, the congress approved the funds (even more than he asked for), and Bush vetoed the legislation. I say, let it stop there. End of story.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:49 pmah, never ending war. what a shame
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmThis is why Pelosi took Chimpeachment off the table. It isn’t going anywhere.
Kucinich put Cheneypeachment back on the table, but it also isn’t going anywhere.
Pelosi and Reid know they don’t have the votes. If they don’t have the votes to override a veto, they don’t have the votes to Chimpeach.
Much as I would LOVE to see Congress do a simultaneous ChimpyCheneyPeachment (which would result in President Pelosi) it ain’t gonna happen right now.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:51 pmSHOCKING
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:52 pmI’d be interested in comparing this vote with the original vote to pass the bill in the first place, to see how many more (or less) voted to overturn the veto than voted for it to begin with.
Regardless, I already called the White House comment line and left a message for Bush saying how disappointed I am that he vetoed a bill reflecting the will of the American people, and that I had already called my own Senators (Warner and Webb) in support of sending the exact same bill to Bush again. I also said to pass on that the time of blank checks and lack of oversight is done.
Curious to see how Congress handles things now that the ball is back in their court.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmYou mean they couldn’t get enough republicans to vote against Bush? I’m shocked.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:54 pmpretty close – give it another couple weeks and another few billion $ and another few hundred casualties, and those GOPers will defect in droves
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmChis L well put, I say the best way to support the troops is to get them home … anyway possible.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:55 pmDON’T SEND THE LITTLE PETULANT SHIT ANOTHER BILL.
HE HAS, BY HIS VETO, CUT OFF WAR FUNDING.
BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW
CLEAN SWEEP 2008
AND tp: STOP REMOVING MY COMMENTS.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:56 pm“Comment by Tom3 — May 2, 2007 @ 2:51 pm”
Tom, I disagree with everything except “it ain’t gonna happen right now.”
The public will get to see ALL the dirty work this administration has actually done in the Impeachments, which will cause people to force their reps to support it.
The Impeachment could be used to show that Bush was putting into place the ability to spy on Americans only THREE weeks after being in the WH, which means that his claim that warrentless wiretaps is to protect the people is a smoke screen.
I believe this is the best and ONLY way to stop these idiots…
Impeachment MUST be started in order to save what is left of our country.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:57 pm“Comment by grrtigger — May 2, 2007 @ 2:54 pm”
FOUR additional….
http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Top_Democrat_Bush_is_not_only_0502.html
“The Democrats appear to have picked up four votes from the 218 that voted for the bill that was sent to the President yesterday.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmThe Democrats did the right thing in forcing Bush to veto this bill, instead of just backing down. But now they need to keep on pushing. In this case, the Dems will lose if they jsut give in to Bush’s demands. Not only will they look weak to a media that already hates them, but they will lose the support of everyone that voted for them in the first place.
Therefore the Dems have nothing to lose. Nothing at all. They need to keep sending bills with specific goals, objectives, standards that the war must accomplish if Bush hopes to keep getting money. They can NOT just blindly hand over money to Bush to continue a war without an end plan.
The Dems need to prove they have guts and show Bush they aren’t afraid to play chicken over what matters. If they keep sending Bills that the majority of American people support, and Bush keeps vetoing them, then who looks bad? Not even the lapdog media can support Bush if he keeps vetoing bills then holding press conferences demanding money. If Bush wants money then he should sign the damn bill.
If the Dems just back down, they will lose a lot of respect and support. I say they need to keep moving forward and KEEP putting the preassure on Bush. Bush has been protected in his little bubble for too long. It’s time he faced some resopnsibility for his actions.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmSince he’s vetoed war funding, it’s time to bring the boyz home.
Congress: Don’t send another bill or try overturning the veto.
Bush ended the war yesterday with his veto. Let it stand and get our children home safely.
Do it now.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmChris L has it right. If I went to my bank and I said “I’d like to borrow $5,000″ they would attach certain conditions to it. If I then said “I don’t like condition X” then we could either negotiate over condition X, or more likely the bank would tell me “Do you want the money or not?”
Bush is in the same situation, he asked for money, congress said “here it is but you need to have a plan for pulling out of Iraq.” Bush has said “I refuse to plan for that, but I still need the money.”
Congress has a choice now, try and negotiate with Bush or tell him “Do you want the money or not?” My personal preference would be for the latter. He can get stroppy and whiny as much as he likes, but all congress needs to do is to make it clear that they have one condition attached to giving him the money he has asked for. If he refuses to accept that one condition that is his problem.
Z.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:59 pmRepublicans are going to get the veto of their pathetic lives in 2008. Prepare for your demise Repukes.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmhttp://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll276.xml
2 (R) Yeas and 7 (D) Nays
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:01 pmThis is how the democrats do business. U.S. bill to pull out of Iraq simply electioneering If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em. By the way what ever happened to the democrat from Louisiana w/ the $90,000 in his freezer? or the democrat from Illinois who was sleeping w/ a 16 year old or Carol Braun from Illinois who took her whole family and host of friends to Africa on the taxpayer. Or the fat ass from Masachusettts who killed Miss Kopechne, Oh and those 900 FBI files that disappeared on clinton’s watch…they called that a glitch!
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmThis bill is interesting, kinda backs Bush into a corner whether he can see it or not. If he passed it the war would be over, if he didn’t the troops have no more funding so it’ll be harder to continue. I’d throw bill after bill at his ass until he caved.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:02 pmThe debate surrounding a U.S. Congress decision to withdraw troops from Iraq is merely part of an election struggle between Democrats and Republicans
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:03 pmBUSH HAS SPOKEN!
F*UCK YOU TROOPS & OTHER AMERICANS.
how sad, a president holding soldiers hostage.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:04 pmStill thinking about this TP article of yesterday:
National Review columnist muses about military coup…
I pray the troops will co the right thing.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:05 pmI think in a few weeks they could have the votes It is only 10, right? Terrible things are happening in Iraq every single day. Any one of them could push some people over the line. The Dems should really begin to work on those who are from districts that might punish them for this vote.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:06 pmBush*s vanity over this war will be the final nail in the coffin of the Republican party. Their congressional losses in 2006 will pale in comparison to the beating they will suffer in 2008.
So long, Republicans, we hardly knew ye.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:08 pmgoehl,
You do not want the troops to “do the right thing”. They would remove the Preznit, The Veep, the House, and the Senate. Next would be the establishment of Martial Law until fair elections could be held and the whole lot of the Washington crime gang was replaced.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:10 pmWell, if Bush won’t take all the money with a redeployment timetable, give him some of the money (a third) with a non-binding timetable. He’ll have to return in September begging for more money. That’s when the withdrawal was to begin and he’s unlikely to have any success by then.
Unfortunately, one can’t let the Veto stand. That would cause panic and chaos in Iraq. And by that I mean more than there already is. I suppose the next step is to impeach someone. Perhaps Gonzales. And step the Congressional hearings into the Iraq fiasco.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:11 pm\/\/house was for supporting the troops before \/\/house wasn’t.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pm“I think in a few weeks they could have the votes It is only 10, right? Terrible things are happening in Iraq every single day. Any one of them could push some people over the line. The Dems should really begin to work on those who are from districts that might punish them for this vote.
Comment by dorothy — May 2, 2007 @ 3:06 pm”
I don’t think so…..
I’m sure that they need 2/3 of the house in order to override a veto. That would mean that 283 votes would be needed……
Way more than just 10 more votes.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:12 pmGIFTED: BOY I BET THAT TAXPAYER IS TIRED. AND HE PROBABLY HAS A SORE BACK TOO!!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:13 pmGood post’s all.I watched the c-spsn vote and call in comment’s while it was on going..I have 3 question’s.First who are the 7 Democrat’s that voted with the Republican’s.? Their vote’s need to have some accountability along with the rep’s..Next..What do we have to do to stop this war, cold in it’s track’s, bring the troops home immedietly. and 3re what do we have to do to get Impeachment of this rogue government back on the table…Madam Speaker Palosi, what will it take.?
While the votes were on going there were many call in’s from Dem’s, Reps’ and independent’s..The majority mentioned ending the war now and impeaching bush, yes even republican’s…What do we have to do to stop this, get out our shovels and pitch forks and march on the capitol.?//..Blessings
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:17 pmUnfortunately, one can’t let the Veto stand. That would cause panic and chaos in Iraq. -David
From what I gather there is enough funding in the pipeline till the end of June for the troops so no panic yet.
If Bush really needed the money I think he would have taken it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm“What do we have to do to stop this, get out our shovels and pitch forks and march on the capitol.?//..Blessings
Comment by Sharon — May 2, 2007 @ 3:17 pm”
Probably, because not even the Dems are listening to the American people……
I called Pelosi’s office today and told the guy on the phone that they needed to stop thinking about the party and start thinking about the country. Then he rushed me off the phone after that.
They don’t want to listen to anyone……
I don’t have an ounce of problem using my military training to take back my country if I have too.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmWe knew he was going to veto …it
That turned into a total waste of time sincce some members of congrreress appear to have misplaced there backbone (and brains)
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:22 pmNobody would love to Chimpeach and Cheneypeach more than I would. I have the bumperstickers to prove it! 8^)
But it still ain’t gonna happen right now. Now unless Congress can start overriding vetoes.
The problem with Chimpeachment is that if the Senate does not vote to remove him from office, he is regarded as acquitted of all charges. Thats in the Constitution iirc.
By all means Chimpeach and Cheneypeach too…as soon as you have the votes locked down to remove them both from office.
Right now the Dems just don’t have the votes. 8^(
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:23 pmSince impeachment has come up here, I have a comment. The Bush presidency has racked up an impressive list of scandals with potentially impeachable offenses. But Congress either ignored them or whitewashed them with a fake investigation. So I’m not disappointed about the lack of impeachment proceedings, I’m disappointed that Pelosi and Reid haven’t opened or re-opened all these investigations and gotten to the bottom of all of this. Once the facts are in hand, then it’s time to talk about impeachment.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:24 pmGifted,
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:25 pmDid the Jackpot Baby, Malkin,send you a e-mail today and tell you what to write?
Seens how Jefferson been investigated now, for what over 20 months,16 by the Repubs,is it possible there is nothing to his “walking around money”, coolin in the freezer?
Bloggers like you are losers, always going back to Kennedy ! The present day crimes will dwarf everything that anyone has done in Congress since day one!
from Senator Feingold :
The ink on the President’s veto is barely dry, and already, a lot of Washington insiders – including some Democrats — are saying Congress should just give in to the President. Never mind how hard people have pushed to bring Congress to this point, when we are finally standing up to the President’s disastrous Iraq policy — they want to give up on the binding language in the bill requiring the President to begin redeploying troops from Iraq. But that’s just letting the President have his way all over again. That’s the kind of thinking that got us into this war in the first place, and it’s not going to cut it anymore.
We can’t keep giving in to this Administration on Iraq. Every time the Administration gets its way, it means that our troops will remain stuck in the middle of Iraq’s civil war, and our national security will continue to be undermined. With so many Americans demanding that our involvement in this war come to an end, backing down is not the answer. No one else should die in Iraq to give political comfort to dealmakers in Washington….
The next step to ending the war isn’t to give in, but to step up the pressure on the President. I’m pleased to be working with Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid on a bill to end our open-ended military commitment in Iraq. Now that the President has rejected the will of the American people with this veto, our bill, or some other proposal to end funding for a failed policy, should be the next step to end the war.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmFirst off he shouldn’t have vetoed it in the first place. It was non binding resolutions. If he wanted to just write “Yeah, ummm sure, I’ll try, thanks!!!” on the bottom he would have been fine.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:26 pmRight now the Dems just don’t have the votes. 8^(
Comment by Tom3 — May 2, 2007 @ 3:23 pm
Damn Democracy!
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:28 pmI don’t think Bush is entirely incompetent. That son of a bitch (Yes, I’m referring to his mother Barbara) is getting rich on this war. Along with his cronies. When he leaves office, I’ll bet you an MRE that he walks into the arms of his friends at Halliburton and whoever else and they show him his swiss bank account, with billions looted from the war. Halliburton, the Carlysle Group, the oil companies, etc.
Why is a Halliburton moving to Dubai? Not to make it hard to subpoena their records, I’m sure…
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:31 pmI would vote that we DO take our pitchforks and march on Washington! How about a July 4 “Take Back America Day” where we all march on Washington and demand Bush and Cheney be impeached immediately! I’ve got room for 5 people – let’s do it!
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmLet Bush’s veto of money for our troops stand and hang in mid-air. Congress voted on the bill; bush vetoed it; money doesn’t get to troops and troops come home. End of story.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:35 pmCongress: Do nothing now. Step up the pressure on Bush. Let this hang in mid air that he vetoed more money to fund the troops and hang this charlatan out to dry once and for all.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:38 pmDoes this mean Kucinich voted to overturn the veto? After lambasting the others for passing the bill in the first place? I didn’t see his name in the list of democrats to vote in upholding the veto… interesting…
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:39 pmHere’s some good news, there are now two co-sponsors for the Kucinich Articles of Impeachment.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmhttp://www.michaelmoore.com
#42 It’s time that the citizens of this democracy (now fascist dictatorship under bush) need to march on Washington to “take back our country”. As impressive as the immigration marches were all over this country, american citizens need a show of force against the evil wrongdoers in this administration. It’s time to stand up to this dictator who stole both elections to gain power; it’s time to stand up and be counted. Or we suffer the destruction of our democracy, corrupt piece by piece…..and we become complacent enablers if we do.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmCongress needs to send the exact same bill back to Chimpy.
Again and again and again. Until Chimpy either signs it or runs out of money for Iraq.
Either way, Congress can NOT give in. This war must stop. Now.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:40 pmExecutive Order
’nuff said
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:41 pmI believe that Congress need do absolutely nothing. Bush is squirming in his cowboy boots right now and it’s time to ratchet up the pressure. And, if Congress eventually comes up with another bill, then the “draws” of money need to be hinged on verified progress like an “allowance” for the bully, finally.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:42 pmI’d love to see Congress have a “daily vote” as they did for the Vietnam war. I’d also love to see the verbatim bill sent back to the Shrub for signature….time after time. Maybe the fool will finally get the message from congress and the american people that he either signs it or the troops come home.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:43 pmThe Democrats held the reins of power for decades, and decades, and decades. With Reagan, the reins of power changed. For 27 years this country, for the most part, has been ruled by conservatives. Clinton was just a minor blip on the radar screen.
Nothing lasts forever, and the tide is shifting again. The midterm elections should have been a wake up call for the Republicans. George Bush has been a disaster. A complete disaster! Let the Bushies rally around Bush, because the Titanic is sinking.
Patience is not an American virtue. We generally want results and we want them now. Even if a military victory was possible ( it’s not ), we just don’t have the patience to wait years, and years, and years, and years, and years, and years, and years, and years.
George W. Bush, and the Bushies, have alread had four years to produce results. Where are the results? Zero! Will one more year produce results? No! A military solution is not possible.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:44 pmveritas – you’re right! So how do we get this organized? The sorry truth is that most people are absolutely clueless about what’s going on, in our government or in the world. And there are no efforts to make people sacrifice to support the war!!! WTF? I’m going to put my flag at half staff tonight. Should have done it years ago already. And leave it there until this crap is over.
So, how to organize?
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:47 pmRight, there is no military solution. So is this what Israel was dealing with for years? Hmmmm…
But W and his cornhole pals walks away RICHER than when he started…
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:49 pmwith 65% of Americans, and soon to be more, looking to end this war it means many Repugs are not listening to their constituents and will pay dearly in ‘08 with most of the fence sitters voting Dem.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmWhy didn’t Chimpy just sign it with a signing statement?
He has virtually vetoed over 700 bills already by doing this.
Maybe he doesn’t want to tempt Congress to take him to the Supreme Court over signing statements.
Signing statements are line-item vetoes and are Unconstitutional.
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:50 pmFund the war for a couple months at a time until the repulsives have to start election campaigning in 4 months then its over ( troops home)
May 2nd, 2007 at 3:58 pmOh well thats another 500 troops dead and another 250,000 Iraqi civillians dead and in 6 months a war with Iran
time for impeachment of Cheney first , take him out
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 pmTes Tom3
The assumption is that the Supreme Court, hand picked by Chimpy, in part, will back his “unitary executive” play. I think not. They are lifetime appointees, he is a transient office holders, regardless of his actual desires and designs.
I don’t think the justices are ready to surrender that kind of power to the Executive and render themselves irrelevant.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmDoes this mean Kucinich voted to overturn the veto?
No, he abstained.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2007/roll276.xml
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:08 pmBENCHMARKS next
Several Republican leaders said Tuesday that they were likely to support such benchmarks,
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:10 pm“Damn Democracy!
Comment by Tundra — May 2, 2007 @ 3:28 pm”
It is actually a Republic issue…
We The People (the Democracy) weren’t involved in the voting process – just our Republic Representatives.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:10 pmThese 7 Democrats need some email, letter, and FAX reminders from us. Please contact them and remind them that they stand in the way in getting our troops home:
John Barrow (GA),
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:15 pmDan Boren (OK),
Lincoln Davis (TN),
Jim Marshall (GA),
Jim Matheson (UT),
Mike McNulty (NY),
Gene Taylor (MS)
Impeachment activist David Swanson said he was very encouraged by the two cosponsorships. “It’s wonderful. There are now three heroes in the US Congress. They deserve all the thanks and credit in the world. They have merely done their duty,” Swanson told Atlanta Progressive News.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:16 pmBREAKING: 3 US Reps Support Cheney Impeachment
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmDems put a “Mission Accomplished” banner up at the House yesterday. “It’s a trumped-up political stunt,†Dana Perino, the deputy White House press secretary, told reporters traveling aboard Air Force One.
Talk about a black kettle!
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:17 pmThe reality is a bill must be submitted that bush signs or is vetoproof.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmThis is how congress works. The repugs will cave by sept but all this withholding the money crap plays into repug hands. Right now they own this war and dems don’t have the votes to override a veto. I love it when
people expect a 51\49 majority in the senate (counting lieberman) to “force” anything. Be happy they got an up or down vote at all!
Personally, I think congress should at least hold off on this issue until the Iraqi government returns from their two month recess. Then we can pick up the issue of discussing funding for Iraq again. In the meantime, there are plenty of domestic issues right here in the US for congress to worry about.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:19 pmJohn Edwards was just on CNN saying how Democrats should not back down. He said the American people want the war ended and are behind the Democrats plan to bring them home.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:38 pmVeritas,
A fascist dictatorship is what we have now.
Donald Trump has stated that Bush is the worst president in the history of this country. He also expressed amazement as to how Bush won the 2004 election. OH! OH! OH! OH! Try OH-io. OH-io. Ohio is the state where the election was stolen. Of course, we already know about the 2000 election. OH! OH! OH! OH! FLOORED! FLOORED! FLOORED! FLOORED! Try Florida.
In the final analysis, I think Iraq is somewhat minor compared to global warming. Bush ( 43 ) did nothing to reverse global warming. I saw a video clip of his father ( 41 ), when he was president, several weeks ago making fun of tree huggers. His message was: tree huggers are kooks. He couldn’t stop laughing. One belly laugh after another.
I’m glad the Bush family, and the cronies, have made millions of dollars. You can’t enjoy the money if you can’t breathe. You can’t enjoy the money if you’re frying in a skillet.
Bush, 41 and 43, were pawns of the energy lobby. The climate IS changing and it spells disaster, just like George W. Bush spelled disaster. I guess warmer temperatures, just one or two degrees, can change the entire world ecological environment.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:39 pmThe reality is a bill must be submitted that bush signs or is vetoproof.
This is how congress works.
Comment by treebark
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No, it doesn’t. No, it’s not.
May 2nd, 2007 at 4:53 pmCongress has the Constitutional power to appropriate money to fund what it chooses. Congress does not have to submit a bill to fund anything it does not approve of. The reality is, Bush ASKED for funding and was told “yes” with stipulations. He refused the stipulations so no money is allotted. End of story. The troops are given no more money to continue the occupation and they have funds which are already approved and can be used for an orderly and safe withdrawal. Or Bush can leave the troops in Iraq without the funds to operate and, imo, by doing so he would be guilty of a “high crime or misdemeanor” and subject to impeachment.
Great post’s as alway’s Veritas,..This entire mess has given me a head ache today…Some one here wanted to know about Kucenichs vote…If that person would of been informed they would of known he voted against the bill to begin with…He like me think there should be no more money for the war,period. Stop the fund’s bring the troop’s home now and end the madness..Money is already in the pipeline to bring them home..If they have to have a bill have it for the needed medical and other services our country need’s…Impeachment has to start with investigation’s, Palosi had better start them soon…The public is not going to put up with any more crap from any polatician’s…The war, high gas prices, failing econemy, more corruption in this administration and a hot summer will cause rioting in the street’s…
BTW..Godless.I had my flag upside down all last spring, summer and fall..Even took a poll, how many people noticed and who came to my aid and who knew what it ment..Sad result’s…It’s upside down again and will be that way untill September…A new poll and will keep you all informed of the results…Blessings
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:15 pmNot, you’ll notice Gordon Smith of Oregon. Gordo is trying to position himself as a moderate – so he votes for the resolution, but reverts to type (R. Opportunist) and votes to uphold his master’s veto. He’s toast in Oregon.
May 2nd, 2007 at 5:16 pmI also heard that Jan Shackowsky (D-IL) and a Dem rep. from MO. may join Kucinich in the Cheney impeachment proposal.
May 2nd, 2007 at 6:20 pm“FOUR additional”….–RemoveBush
I don’t see where they get four. We had TWO additional votes, J. Lewis (D-GA & Michaud (D-ME) — Bluedogs who previously voted nay on the submitted bill.
They other Dems have supported the war from its inception (if they were in the House)
ALL the uphold-veto yea Dems, except McNulty, voted NAY on the submitted bill in the first place. Emailing them, as JTitor suggests, is a COMPLETE waste of time.
May 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pm“Seven Democrats broke rank and voted to uphold Bush’s veto: John Barrow (GA), Dan Boren, (OK), Lincoln Davis (TN), Jim Marshall (GA), Jim Matheson (UT), Michael McNulty (NY), and Gene Taylor (MS)”
…WHY the American Civil War isn’t done yet…
…confederate flag loving, Bush-worshipping inbred TRAITORS ALL…
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmMay the violence in Iraq…
…touch EVERY warmongering Bush supporting scum in America…
…and may they all die poor and broken in every way possible…
…their Karma demands it…
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:56 pm“He is the one who is depriving the troops what they need by is IGNORANCE!
Comment by RemoveBush — May 2, 2007″
Which is?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:48 pmWhich is?
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:48 pm
Proof that you’re too st*pid to ask an intelligent question, or have an intelligent debate.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:14 amWell then….. Make just a MINOR change to the bill and send it back to the shrub!!!
Comment by RemoveBush — May 2, 2007 @ 2:47 pm
They’re doing this now. The minor change is taking out the timeline for withdrawal of troops.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:36 amI stll do not undrstand the point of overturning the veto??
Well that’s irrelevant because there was never any chance that the veto could be overturned. This required a 2/3rds majority.
That the bill had no chance of becoming law was know when it was being drafted. It being passed was never a serious possibility.
Just let the veto stand. Bush asked for money, the congress approved the funds (even more than he asked for), and Bush vetoed the legislation. I say, let it stop there. End of story.
Comment by chris L — May 2, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
End of what story ?
Democrat congressmen getting re-elected ? Democrats regaining the White House ?
WTF you think happens ?
There could be 99.99% public support for bringing the troops home tomorrow, but if you intentionally cut off funding for them while they are deployed in a war zone you will be crucified for this for decades to come.
Who would have thought that in response to losing an unloosable Presidential election, a Democrat might want to repeat the excercise. Astounding.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:06 amDON’T SEND THE LITTLE PETULANT SHIT ANOTHER BILL.
HE HAS, BY HIS VETO, CUT OFF WAR FUNDING.
BRING THE TROOPS HOME NOW
CLEAN SWEEP 2008
AND tp: STOP REMOVING MY COMMENTS.
Comment by gotaclue — May 2, 2007 @ 2:56 pm
Have you considered TP may be removing your posts for violating their rules about excessive irony ?
I mean you’re suggesting that Democrats would win a clean sweep in 2008 by cutting off funding to troops in a warzone and posting this under the name “got a clue”.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:15 amSo, only like 70 more needed.
LMAO. Yeah maybe when the war starts going badly Republicans will change. A couple of weeks at the most. LOL
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:22 am