STUDY: Bill O’Reilly Uses Derogatory Names ‘More Than Once Every Seven Seconds’
STUDY: Bill O’Reilly Uses Derogatory Names ‘More Than Once Every Seven Seconds’
A new study by Indiana University media researchers finds that Fox News host Bill O’Reilly calls “a person or a group a derogatory name once every 6.8 seconds, on average, or nearly nine times every minute during the editorials that open his program each night.”
The study documented six months worth, or 115 episodes, of O’Reilly’s “Talking Points Memo” editorials “using propaganda analysis techniques made popular after World War I.” Researchers found that O’Reilly “was prone to inject fear into his commentaries and quick to resort to name-calling. He also frequently assigned roles or attributes — such as ‘villians’ or downright ‘evil’ — to people and groups.
Some findings from the study:
– Fear was used in more than half (52.4 percent) of the commentaries, and O’Reilly almost never offered a resolution to the threat. For example, in a commentary on “left-wing” media unfairly criticizing Attorney Gen. Alberto Gonzales for his role in the Abu Ghraib scandal, O’Reilly considered this an example of America “slowly losing freedom and core values,” and added, “So what can be done? Unfortunately, not much.”
– The researchers identified 22 groups of people that O’Reilly referenced in his commentaries, and while all 22 were described by O’Reilly as bad at some point, the people and groups most frequently labeled bad were the political left — Americans as a group and the media (except those media considered by O’Reilly to be on the right).
– Left-leaning media (21.6 percent) made up the largest portion of bad people/groups, and media without a clear political leaning was the second largest (12.2 percent). When it came to evil people and groups, illegal aliens (26.8 percent) and terrorists (21.4 percent) were the largest groups.
The techniques used by Indiana University researchers to study O’Reilly were also “used during the late 1930s to study another prominent voice in a war-era, Father Charles Coughlin. His sermons evolved into a darker message of anti-Semitism and fascism, and he became a defender of Hitler and Mussolini.” The researchers note, “O’Reilly is a heavier and less-nuanced user of the propaganda devices than Coughlin.”
UPDATE: O’Reilly, 2/27/06: “I don’t do personal attacks here.”
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Ha ha ha.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmNo surprise here.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:40 pmfinger pointers never turn that finger around on themselves, thus the need to continually finger point
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmRepublicans don*t believe in science, so why should they accept this analysis? Besides, Republicans know that only those 70% of Americans suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome can engage in name calling.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:43 pmOh man, I can’t wait to see what the T-Warrior makes of this.
One thing’s for sure, he can’t blame it on MediaMatters this time.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmCongratulations, Bill, you’ve excelled at something.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmo’reilly=nasty temper
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:44 pmBut–but–the BLOGS. Vituperation Toxicity!
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:45 pmBLOOMINGTON, Ind. — Bill O’Reilly may proclaim at the beginning of his program that viewers are entering the “No Spin Zone,” but a new study by Indiana University media researchers found that the Fox News personality consistently paints certain people and groups as villains and others as victims to present the world, as he sees it, through political rhetoric.
Like this site or any site is any different to the opposite political group?
I bet in 2 pages on any political site we can see all of those propoganda tools being used.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 pmLess nuanced than the Hitler/Mussolini supporter? Nice work, he’s really earning that big dough he gets frothing for Fox Noise.
When does overachieving move into fanatacism because I think he’s way over the line.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:47 pmHow is Olbemann’s worst person in the world segmant any different?
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmGreat research. I can’t stand to watch him call judges “pinheads”, etc. as if he isn’t one himself.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:48 pmWOW
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:50 pmThose people really had an eye on him.
Impressed
It’s the position of these people that those who oppose what the government does - must be “with the terrorists” “hate america” should be shut up, deported or even executed for treason…
But, in reality, those who oppose freedom, like O’Reilly and his goons on fox, etc…are the ones who hate what America is all about - the liberties in the Bill of Rights…
An interesting read on this:
The America-Haters Strike Again
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:52 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ the_america_haters_strike_again
Tundra,
I’ll call your bluff. Link us a couple aites where this happens.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmA couple of sites I mean
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmHow is this different from Olbermann? Because Olbermann doesn’t pretend to be unbiased. Jackass.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:54 pmHow is Olbemann’s worst person in the world segmant any different?
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
If you can’t see it, it’s too hard to explain. Perhaps you should just not watch Olbermann like I don’t watch O’Reilly. Or is this just your talking point?
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 pmDifference is this is thinkprogress. The title already shows that this is a blog dedicated to progressives. It’s not think news. News networks need not opine on situations and slant their stories, no matter how politically one-sided their base is.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:56 pm#10. KO has been pointing out the very substance of this thread for awhile now so asking the difference isn’t a well thought out question. But your’e mad and the truth does hurt.
Thanks Indiana. I still hate the Colts but this is too good.
Go ahead all you haters, start your bashing. I’ll just point to this research.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmHow is Olbemann’s worst person in the world segmant any different? Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
1) It doesn’t happen every seven seconds.
2) It focuses on the specific actions of a specific person.
3) It’s generally very accurate (if perhaps exaggerated that they are the *worst* person) - as opposed O’Reilly not really being able to distinguish his opinion from *reality*.
I could go on…
John, are you really this uninformed about the non-factual nature of O’Reilly? Sad…
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:57 pmIndiana U. is now officially an evil whacky far-left institution. It’s definitely going on Bill’s list.
Right on up there with …bears! Oh wait, that’s Colbert.
Right on up there with 5,000 other far-left papers/people/institutions/magazines/media/blogs that are “out to get” O’Reilly.
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:58 pmWell, most of the cable news channels violate journalism 101 when they editorialize the news. It’s that truthiness thing.
Take a news item and add a half-truth then offer an opinion. Repeat as often as necessary. Where fairness & balance is required, find the most off-balance and unfair advocate for the opposing viewpoint. Or slander and insult a genuine opponent until they walk out and then call them cowards and defenders of the indefensible.
If only every guest on O’Reilly were armed with a handgun, this wouldn’t happen. The liberal progs could rush the guy and take him down.. But their wusses who actually believe in reasoned discourse and logical argumentation. Fut! Get out of here, you liberal losers. Come back when you’re packing heat! Am I right, Mark Steyn?
May 2nd, 2007 at 12:59 pmI bet in 2 pages on any political site we can see all of those propoganda tools being used.
Comment by Tundra — May 2, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
I see that you are an equivalencer. This is common strategy employed by intellectual cowards to avoid facing the truth.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmLike this site or any site is any different to the opposite political group? Comment by Tundra — May 2, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
So you admit *fox* - a supposed *news* channel is a propaganda group?
I bet in 2 pages on any political site we can see all of those propoganda tools being used. Comment by Tundra — May 2, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Would you see derogatory names every 7 seconds (or equivalent in words)? Remember, you can’t count we responders - so your words don’t count! We’d be the *guests*…
Think carefully! Take a dump if you need to son!
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmDo people really have to wonder how come repukians think that they do?
B.O. is a shining example of their thought processes, they all have very sick minds and personalities.
Take for example - Patti 1″ - Valiant Douchebag - Jake - very, very sick people, they of course worship that scum bag B.O.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:00 pmoh this is funny, the pot calling the kettle black.
how many times has thinkprogress.org used fear of the right wing news, of the right wing blogers, of the right wing politicians, etc, etc, etc.
ridiculous…..and Indiana University used a 77 year old method to study current media? wow….
yes thinkprogress.org, next thing you are going to hear from O’Reilly is anti-Jew messages. Talk about using fear to get people to agree with them,, right thinkprogress.org?
that is like Olberman last night going through the worst person of the world, he attacked Beck for using nazi analogies, I was cracking up since the left is the master of calling everyone on the right nazis.
The left is master of using fear tactics to get people to agree with them.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmSo what? As a liberal I value the 1st amendment.
Will we see a study about how many derogatory terms Mike Malloy uses on any given night?
If you don’t want to hear what Shill O’Lielly is saying, stop listening.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:04 pmcDifference is this is thinkprogress. The title already shows that this is a blog dedicated to progressives. It’s not think news. News networks need not opine on situations and slant their stories, no matter how politically one-sided their base is.
Comment by x2x — May 2, 2007 @ 12:56 pm
Hello!!!! O’Reilly says it constantly, that he is not a news anchor man, but rather someone that gives opinions on the news. He opines! on the days news!
thus, he is no different than thinkprogress.org. and O’Reilly, which most far leftist deny, is a libeterian more than a Republican.
regardless, he opines, as he says about the news, he doesn’t report the news.
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May 2nd, 2007 at 1:09 pmSo you admit *fox* - a supposed *news* channel is a propaganda group?
I bet in 2 pages on any political site we can see all of those propoganda tools being used. Comment by Tundra — May 2, 2007 @ 12:47 pm
Would you see derogatory names every 7 seconds (or equivalent in words)? Remember, you can’t count we responders - so your words don’t count! We’d be the *guests*…
Think carefully! Take a dump if you need to son!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
Using derogatory terms doesn’t make anyone be a propaganda machine, as you are implying. Would you then concid, using your logic, that Olberman and sites like thinkprogress.org are such propaganda tools for the left since they constantly use derogatory terms when speaking about Republicans, conservatives and the right?
careful son, think hard, go take a dump if you must and then come back and answer little one.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmThink carefully! Take a dump if you need to son!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007 @ 1:00 pm
I think he is the “dump”.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmI remember the good ol’ days when some people actually took Bill O. seriously. What a bunch of frickin’ morons!!
He makes for good comedy, SNL skits, and Colbert fodder. Thank you Bill for your continued support of comedians and their never ending thirst for new material. Comedians everywhere owe you a massive debt of gratitude.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pmHow is Olbemann’s worst person in the world segmant any different?
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 12:48 pm
To add to the multitude of reasons already expressed:
1. Because O’Reilly loudly and publicly proclaims his show a “No Spin Zoneâ„¢” and then spins like a weed whacker.
2. Because O’Reilly loudly and publicly and repeatedly claims that he “doesn’t do personal attacks” then does personal attacks as a matter of course.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:10 pm“he is no different than thinkprogress.org.”
does that mean this web site has sexually harrassed its coworkers?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 pmI bet if they did the same to TP it would be every second.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:12 pmregardless, he opines, as he says about the news, he doesn’t report the news.
Comment by valianttheflatulence — May 2, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
He’s also a registered independent (like many a troll here), a Peabody receipient, and has single handedly destroyed the French economy.
That, and he’s get serious sexual issues with falafels and vibrators
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 pmI get ALL my news from FOX and the O’Reilly Factor. What you don’t? Lefties, all of you! You deserve to die. Hannity is God, O’Reilly is Jesus.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:13 pmSo what? As a liberal I value the 1st amendment.
Comment by Beelzebud — May 2, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Funny, you don’t sound like a liberal. By the way, this isn’t a 1st amendment issue.
Why do so few Americans understand the 1st amendment and the nature of free speech?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:14 pmSo what? As a liberal I value the 1st amendment.
Will we see a study about how many derogatory terms Mike Malloy uses on any given night?
If you don’t want to hear what Shill O’Lielly is saying, stop listening.
Comment by Beelzebud — May 2, 2007 @ 1:04 pm
Hmmm…. you don’t sound like a liberal. I mean, your adopted stance of tolerance and “live and let live” is a liberal trait, but your odd choice of equivalencies (O’Reilly = Mike Malloy?) sounds weird and almost trollish. And your willingness to dismiss the damage that misinformation does to those that actually DO choose to listen, and who believe the crap that they’re fed, is alarming.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 pmregardless, he opines, as he says about the news, he doesn’t report the news.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:08 pm
Difference is advertising dollars pay his salary. One day O’Reilly and Beck are going to “opine” themselves out of a job, just like Imus did.
And since I am a proponent of free speech, I’m free to speak my mind to the advertisers supporting him, don’t you agree?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:15 pmValiant the Hater… what do you mean by left?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pmvaliantthehater,
“Using derogatory terms doesn’t make anyone be a propaganda machine, as you are implying. Would you then concid, using your logic, that Olberman and sites like thinkprogress.org are such propaganda tools for the left since they constantly use derogatory terms when speaking about Republicans, conservatives and the right?”
Maybe you could post some examples of this happening in the way which is outlined this blog post. And I’m not talking about the comments left on the blog. The blog post itself. Because, respectfully, I think you’re wrong.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:16 pmJust remember children of the left,
Bill O’Reilly kills any and all programs on CNN and MSNBC, reason why the left hates him so much. Because he destroys everyone in ratings.
and he opines, as for the no spin zone, please only a liberal would think that O’Reilly doesn’t spin. that is a marketing line, you fool. Everyone spins to what they believe. I guess he had you fooled for a while, eh?
and if you are going to speak about personal attacks, I wonder what a study of AirHead America would turn up, where idiots like Randi Rhodes used the sound of a shut gun after asking people to go kill the President. Or were Al Franken couldn’t speak two words without insulting Rush Limbaugh or O’Reilly.
Right wingers, left wingers, Libeterians, they all the same tactics to get their audience all rilled up and their enemies all hot under the collar.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:18 pmCrump’s Brother,
why don’t you check out how thinkprogress.or uses “Radical Right” as a category?
start there, but I will be glad to cut and past more examples.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:19 pmthinkprogress.org are such propaganda tools for the left since they constantly use derogatory terms when speaking about Republicans, conservatives and the right?
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:10 pm
Oh and the trolls around her only have nice things to say about progressives, is that what you’re saying. Would you like us to pull out just troll posts for a week and see what they look like.
It’s funny that when there are no trolls around the conversation is a lot more civil.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:20 pmHey John M,
The difference is this:
Spin
Truth
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:22 pmI get ALL my news from FOX and the O’Reilly Factor. .
Comment by Patrick1 — May 2, 2007 @ 1:13 pm
Like he needs to tell us?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:23 pmI personally don’t like OReilly, but will watch him if I am surfing channels just like I will watch Olbermann the same way. The thing that I have noticed with Olbermann is that he never brings in anybody that actually disagrees with him, so only one side is seen. The thing I have noticed with OReilly is that he does bring in people that disagree with him, but he bullies them. Olbernamm certainly tries to come across as an objective news guy, even though he does not say the equivilent to “no spin”, but he is far from objective. I guess my point here is that I don’t see how people can hate OReilly because of his antics and attacks when Olbermann is basically doing the same thing. If he has an entire segment everyday is about the worst person in the world(that typically are about people from the right), it is really no different than OReilly’s editorials against the left.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:23 pm“Olbermann does it, Think Progress does it…” blah, blah, yadda, yadda.
Get one of your rightwing universities to do a study like this one then. Oh wait, that’s right, they can’t, THEY DON’T BELIEVE IN SCIENCE!
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmThe no Spin Zone has spun out.
Kevin, stop hurting yourself. This is an opinion site. How can you time typed words when you’re reading them? And if you want to make that bet, I’ll take you up on it. Odds are it took you longer than one second to read this and there is no spin here.
So just admit you are wrong, brush off your ego and get back in the game bucky.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:24 pmFurther proof that the Right are degenerate bigots.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:25 pmvaliantthehater,
Do you not like the phrase radical right? You throw the term liberal out there as if it is an insult, do you not? I use the term radical left to describe radical elements of the left wing view on things. It doesn’t describe all right leaning people if you say “radical right” does it?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:25 pmSpudge_Boy,
Actually, if you took a minute to watch O’Reilly shows, you would know that he was for the war, but has turned against it and constanly attacks the President and his administration for allowing the war to go on for so long. For allowing secterian violence to break, etc, etc.
stop getting your O’Reilly news from smear websites and watch it for yourself.
what O’Reilly has always said is that there is a responsible way to disagree and speak against the war and a very irresponsible, anti-American, anti-military way to disagree with the war.
Honestly, Spudge_Boy, without insults, watch the show. You might be shocked to find out that it is not the boogeyman that some left wing sites have said it is.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 pmThere is a bill that some democrats are trying to pass that is the equivilent to the Fairness Doctrine that went away in the mid 80s. The bill would essentially put an end to right wing radio, making every host give equal airtime for each side of political discussion. What do people here think about this? Do people see it as censorship? Do people see it as the first amendment right of free speech being taken away. Or do people think that since it is public airways, the FCC and the government can filter what we hear?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:27 pmDamn. Why couldn’t Indiana U. have held off this story for a day or two.
I’m currently finishing an art project that makes the same point about O’Reilly and his use of slurs to advance his egomaniacal presence.
If any of you care to bookmark News Corpse, I promise it will be posted by Saturday.
You won’t be disappointed. It is an interactive artwork that paints a picture of O’Reilly as an uncouth bully, and it documents instances of this behavior.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm.
O’Tooly is such a weak “journalist.” He lies constantly on his show and here we have another documented, demonstrably lie from that ratbag. Now, go back to your “Peabody winning show” . . . oh wait, the Peabody was awarded before you began working on the show? Nice for you.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:29 pmJohn M,
well said. Olberman doesn’t ever have anyone that disagrees with him. He pretends to be a news person, when he is not. He was actually fired from Foxsports channel and that is why he hates Fox. Olberman is obssesed with insulting and attacking O’Reilly which makes him sound like an idiot.
O’Reilly does bully many of the people he brings on the show, but at least he brings people with opposing views than the ones he has. Something that Olberman has never done.
as much as thinkprogress.org is an opinion site, O’Reilly is an opinion program. O’Reilly has never claimed, whiole on the “O’Reilly Show” that he is a news man. he always ends his segment with, “Thanks for showing up, we will let the viewers make up their own minds.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:31 pmValianthehater,
You said – “and if you are going to speak about personal attacks, I wonder what a study of AirHead America would turn up, where idiots like Randi Rhodes used the sound of a shut gun after asking people to go kill the President. Or were Al Franken couldn’t speak two words without insulting Rush Limbaugh or O’Reilly.â€
See it’s things like “Airhead America†that we are talking about here. Why do you say things like that if you are so for an elevated debate?
As far as the Randi Rhodes comment you made. I know what incident on her show you are talking about. It was a comic piece put together by her production staff. Immediately after it ran, she said it wasn’t funny, and told her staff never to put anything like that on again. She didn’t even wait for the criticism. She told them on the air during the show after it ran.
Al Franken only “insults†Rush or Hannity by calling them liars. And every time Franken has made the accusation that they lied about something, he has been correct. Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Coulter, and the rest who are mentioned in his book, could not refute one assertion he made about their inability to get the truth right.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:32 pmThe bill would essentially put an end to right wing radio, making every host give equal airtime for each side of political discussion. What do people here think about this? Do people see it as censorship? Do people see it as the first amendment right of free speech being taken away. Or do people think that since it is public airways, the FCC and the government can filter what we hear? Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Censorship? Are you completely r*t*rded? That bill didn’t stop people from saying partisan things - it required that they give equal time to the other side to respond to partisan things. As in it *protected* the free speech of *both* sides! Not just the side that owned the media company - like it is now!
You people are dum.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:33 pmCrump’s Brother,
sorry, I never throw the term Liberal as an insult. I use it because you are a Liberal. c’mon now. Do you not like being called what you are? I am a proude Centrists who leans to the right. Call me a conservative. It is not an insult. I have never understood why the left sees the term Liberal as such an insult.
and now you seem to be excusing thinkprogress.or’s using of the term “radical right”. I thought thinkprogress.org didn’t use derogatory terems? now that I show you one, you excuse it? hmmm…..
funny since this is one of the things that thinkprogress.org points to, O’Reilly’s use of the term radical left. I guess thinkprogress.org can use the term radical right, but they hate it someone else uses the term radical left. Very interesting.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:34 pmI don’t do personal attacks here either.
Valiant is a jacka$$.
Jake is an idiot.
Exley can’t defend his inane arguments and has the logic of a three-year-old.
Trolls: don’t try to call me a hypocrite. By yours and O’Tooly’s standards, I’m not.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:35 pmThe difference between O’Reilly and Olbermann is very simple: O’REILLY LIES, CONSTANTLY.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:36 pmO’Reilly does bully many of the people he brings on the show, but at least he brings people with opposing views than the ones he has. Something that Olberman has never done. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
O’Reilly brings a *few* of them on, shuts them down, and then pretends to be fair, because a small minority come from the left. Yeah, that’s not *biased*, it’s fair - right? Olbermann is honest about his show, and his show isn’t a *talk* show. Don’t you Jake*sses understand the context of program FORMAT?
as much as thinkprogress.org is an opinion site, O’Reilly is an opinion program. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
Actually he claims to be a “fair and balanced”, and an Independent. All lies.
O’Reilly has never claimed, whiole on the “O’Reilly Show†that he is a news man. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
What channel is he on again - fox NEWS?
he always ends his segment with, “Thanks for showing up, we will let the viewers make up their own minds.†Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:31 pm
While spoonfeeding them one side… It’s called *propaganda* - child.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmHonestly, Spudge_Boy, without insults, watch the show. You might be shocked to find out that it is not the boogeyman that some left wing sites have said it is.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Yeah Spudge_Boy, listen to vth, because she know’s that you’ve never watched O’Reilly before. How she knows is a mystery. Maybe she has your house bugged.
Believe me, vth, we all watched the show before we stopped watching the show, idiot.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmThe difference between O’Reilly and Olbermann is very simple: O’REILLY LIES, CONSTANTLY.
Comment by And You Thought REAGAN Was Stupid — May 2, 2007 @ 1:36 pm
Of course, because you disagree with his view. nice to know.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmThe Bush cultists are clear on this — the fact that a political blog like TP has users who anonomously engage in criticism and name-calling of conservatives is equivalent to the host of the highest rated political opinion show on television name-calling liberals. OK. Thanks to the Bush cultists for further demonstrating their utter lack of critical thinking skills.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:38 pmBill O’Rielly: “Look, if it turns out that there are no WMD’s, I won’t support the Bush administration anymore.”
My question is this — do fans of Bill O’Reilly have any self-respect?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmand now you seem to be excusing thinkprogress.or’s using of the term “radical rightâ€. I thought thinkprogress.org didn’t use derogatory terems? now that I show you one, you excuse it? hmmm….. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
You don’t think the radical right exists? Or is a derogatory term? So how would you refer to the Islamic Fascists - you know the *radical-right* of Islam? Or do suggest we find a kinder, friendlier name to describe the rights hating abortion clinic bombing “radical right”?
Sorry - child - but term is just descriptive of some people.
funny since this is one of the things that thinkprogress.org points to, O’Reilly’s use of the term radical left. I guess thinkprogress.org can use the term radical right, but they hate it someone else uses the term radical left. Very interesting. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:34 pm
Yes, but O’Reilly is using that term to describe the 60% of Americans that disagree with his point - it’s called misuse of term…
Poor little lunatic…
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pmAnother comparison if you will:
O’reilly - believes what he says is the truth.
Olbermann - knows what he says is 90% snark.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm#54 There is a bill that some democrats are trying to pass that is the equivilent to the Fairness Doctrine that went away in the mid 80s. The bill would essentially put an end to right wing radio, making every host give equal airtime for each side of political discussion. What do people here think about this? Do people see it as censorship? Do people see it as the first amendment right of free speech being taken away. Or do people think that since it is public airways, the FCC and the government can filter what we hear?
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 1:27 pm
Of course it’s censorship. Liberals are free to air their programs, too. Unfortunately, they can’t get anyone to listen to theirs.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pm“sorry, I never throw the term Liberal as an insult.”
spoken like a true “independent”
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmOf course, because you disagree with his view. nice to know.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
See, you keep thinking *facts* are *opinions*. Facts can be *checked*, opinions you can simply ignore. Like your *opinion* that O’Reilly is *factual* - when in *fact* he’s caught *lying* (you know proven by facts) daily…
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:41 pmWhat is really scary about O’Reilly…and all the Reich Wingnuts who do the exact same thing…is they are whipping their inbred redneck bigot base into a frenzy.
I can see this getting out of hand. Eventually the knuckle-dragging Repuke gun nuts will go out and start shooting anybody they think is a “Librrrrrul traitor”.
And most likely, the cops will look the other way. They won’t stop it or investigate it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmOf course it’s censorship. Liberals are free to air their programs, too. Unfortunately, they can’t get anyone to listen to theirs. Comment by upright left — May 2, 2007 @ 1:41 pm
Tell that to Olbermann and his soaring ratings… You’re an idiot.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pm#65. No. Because he LIES. Not because of his “view.” Nice try.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:42 pmCensorship? Are you completely r*t*rded? That bill didn’t stop people from saying partisan things - it required that they give equal time to the other side to respond to partisan things. As in it *protected* the free speech of *both* sides! Not just the side that owned the media company - like it is now!
You people are dum.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
This is what Wikipedia has for a definition of the fairness doctrine.
“The Fairness Doctrine was a regulation of the United States’ Federal Communications Commission which required broadcast licensees to present controversial issues of public importance, and to present such issues in what was deemed an honest, equal and balanced manner. It has since been repealed by the FCC and aspects of it have been questioned by courts”
You have no problem with this?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:43 pmCrump’s Brother,
Al Franken has never been correct about anything. They guys is a liar and he constantly calls Limbaugh fat. C’mon guy. Read his book that he wrote against Limbaugh. He is constantly using personal insults against those he disagrees.
i take it you have never seen the now famous exchange between O’Reilly and Al franken in which Franken went after O’Reilly with personal attacks and insults. Sadly enough, O’Reilly lost his cool, but Franken used personal attacks.
C’mon crump’s brother, Franken doesn’t only call Hannity and Limbaugh liars, he uses all types of insults.
as for the Randi Rhode incident, if it was such a joke, why did the Secret Service end up at the doors of Ranid Rhodes after the gun incidient?
please, Randi Rhodes calls anyone that calls into her show that she disagrees with, idiots, stupid.
c’mon guy, don’t lie now.
and as for Al franken being honest here go read some of his “truths”.
http://www.frankenlies.com
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmvaliantthehater,
You said - “Of course, because you disagree with his view.”
you can’t disagree about facts valiantthehater. There are only one set of facts. Or there should be. these days, with the majority of Fox viewers actually believing there were WMD in Iraq, it’s hard to know anymore.
What you said is without question one of the big issues in our discourse these days. It’s ok to have an opinion about the facts. It’s not ok to LIE or make shit up as you go.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pm“The difference between O’Reilly and Olbermann is very simple: O’REILLY LIES, CONSTANTLY.”
where’d you read that? the ‘paris business review’?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:44 pmAlthough it is fun to watch O’Leilly when he is getting spanked by a liberal. He gets so flustered and angry during the 10 seconds it takes him to yell at them and hang up. Of course, if his position had any substance he’d actually be able to listen to opposing views and argue against them. A true sign of his weak position and weak mind is the fact he gives up so quickly and hangs up. L-O-S-E-R.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmTell that to Olbermann and his soaring ratings… You’re an idiot.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007 @ 1:42 pm
Now this is a joke if I have ever heard one. Olberman’s soaring ratings? hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
you are one funny guy. thanks for the joke kid.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:46 pmThe University’s findings don’t surprise me after all you loons on the left supply O’Reilly with all the ammo he needs everytime you open your mouths! Oh, and don’t forget to watch Glenn Beck’s show tonight on the hysterics of global warming. Don’t criticize the show unless you watch it and can refute what he says.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:47 pmWell, we’ve always known he was a douche, but now it’s scientifically proven.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pm“I can see this getting out of hand. Eventually the knuckle-dragging Repuke gun nuts will go out and start shooting anybody they think is a “Librrrrrul traitorâ€.
And most likely, the cops will look the other way. They won’t stop it or investigate it.
Comment by Tom3 — May 2, 2007″
You’re an incredible idiot!
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:48 pmWhat you said is without question one of the big issues in our discourse these days. It’s ok to have an opinion about the facts. It’s not ok to LIE or make shit up as you go.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 2, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
you mean like the left, Olberman, thinkprogress.org, dailykos, Democratunderground, huffingtonpost, etc do on daily basis?
The left constantly makes shit up as they go for one reason and one reason alone….to get back into power, to smear the right and to make Conservatives look like idiots.
here is another example of a left winger that uses insults and edits to attack the right, Michael Moore, who has been completly discredited. Yet, many on the far right take his words as the words of a god.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmTell that to Olbermann and his soaring ratings… You’re an idiot.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
He is third in his timeslot behind the oh so annoying Nancy Grace.
“By the end of March, Olbermann’s ratings had fallen 21% since November 2006 and the show had fallen to third place in the 8pm time slot behind Nancy Grace.[35]By mid-April, Countdown had regained much of its rating loss and was jockeying for second with Nancy Grace and Paula Zahn.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:49 pmBush cultist: “There is a bill that some democrats are trying to pass that is the equivilent to the Fairness Doctrine that went away in the mid 80s. The bill would essentially put an end to right wing radio…”
I see. So you agree that if people really were presented with a range of opinion as opposed to simply right wing opinion, right-wing talk on the radio wouldn’t have a chance. Interesting opinion. I agree. Thanks for your contribution.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:50 pm#86: why would the far right take Michael Moore’s words as that of a god? Oh right, you’re stupid.
Peace. Have a lovely day. Bwwahahahahahahaha!
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:51 pmYeah, Al Franken lies. Hahaha. And O’Reilly won two Peabody Awards. *snort*
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:52 pmAl Franken has never been correct about anything. They guys is a liar and he constantly calls Limbaugh fat.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 1:44 pm
So you must be claiming that Limbaugh is not fat. Because based on the pictures I have seen of him, he looks fat to me. And if he is in fact FAT, then your accusation that “Al Franken has never been correct about anything” is proven wrong right off the bat. Oops.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmAs far as the Randi Rhodes comment you made. I know what incident on her show you are talking about. It was a comic piece put together by her production staff. Immediately after it ran, she said it wasn’t funny, and told her staff never to put anything like that on again. She didn’t even wait for the criticism. She told them on the air during the show after it ran.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 2, 2007 @ 1:32 pm
Yeah, that makes it all better! That’s all ya gotta do, admit what ya did was wrong and all is forgotten. ;) I’m sure she had no idea what her staff was doing. Wait! Where have I heard that before? But it didn’t fly here, did it? Sorry Randi!
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:53 pmBush cultist: “Now this is a joke if I have ever heard one. Olberman’s soaring ratings? hahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!”
In the last two quarters, Olberman’s ratings have increased by about 76%. That’s why he got a huge new contract. During the same period, O’Reilly’s ratings have dropped by about 35%….. But laugh it up, don’t give it a second thought.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 pmNow, if IU would only do something “fair and balanced,” such as a more comprehensive study which includes both conservative and liberal voices, they might actually have some credibility outside of the far left echo chamber in the blogosphere.
Chip
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:54 pm“to make Conservatives look like idiots.”
the left shouldn’t get any credit for that.
“edits to attack the right”
edits?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmO’really is just another Limbaugh pundit, aka irrelevant, according to (R) Arnold (R) Schwarzenegger (R)
And by God no Limbaugh, O’Really pundit better ever talk bad about my boy Arnie. =)
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:55 pmvaliantthehater,
you mean like the left, Olberman, thinkprogress.org, dailykos, Democratunderground, huffingtonpost, etc do on daily basis?
I’m gonna have to start calling you out on this stuff. If you are going to make accusations like this, you need to back it up with some facts. Give us a link that proves your point. Otherwise, it looks like nothing more than mindless drivel.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmHey, O’Reilly, where’s my loofah? On second thought, you can keep it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:56 pmHe is third in his timeslot behind the oh so annoying Nancy Grace.
“By the end of March, Olbermann’s ratings had fallen 21% since November 2006 and the show had fallen to third place in the 8pm time slot behind Nancy Grace.[35]By mid-April, Countdown had regained much of its rating loss and was jockeying for second with Nancy Grace and Paula Zahn.â€
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 1:49 pm
Anyone else find it ironic that JohnM would be dishonest in a post about O’Reilly? Sorry SON, but you should have included the sentence that followed where you truncated…
Then there’s the sentence that came *before* the one you cherry picked in order to *misrepresent* (propagandize) the post.
You’re cut from the same dishonest piece of sh*t cloth as O’Reilly - just like I said to you yesterday when you use that liberalism insult alias. You’re human filth.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:57 pmI haven’t been stopping by too regularly the past week, so tell me — is this thread plagued by a particularly pathetic collection of trolls, or has the troll intelligence level dropped to basement?
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmNow, if IU would only do something “fair and balanced,†such as a more comprehensive study which includes both conservative and liberal voices, they might actually have some credibility outside of the far left echo chamber in the blogosphere.
Chip
Comment by Chip — May 2, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Exactly, do a study on both sides. Neither side can claim that they are innocent of insulting people from across the eisle.
Al Franken, Randi Rhodes, Glenn Beck, Ann Coulter, etc, all use the same tactics to get their message heard. They all use insults too.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmSo you must be claiming that Limbaugh is not fat. Because based on the pictures I have seen of him, he looks fat to me. And if he is in fact FAT, then your accusation that “Al Franken has never been correct about anything†is proven wrong right off the bat. Oops. Comment by KRank — May 2, 2007 @ 1:53 pm
Maybe compared to valiant, he’s thin? That would explain a lot. Another st*pid fat *ssed republican, addicted to hate.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:58 pmBush cultist: “There is a bill that some democrats are trying to pass that is the equivilent to the Fairness Doctrine that went away in the mid 80s. The bill would essentially put an end to right wing radio…â€
I see. So you agree that if people really were presented with a range of opinion as opposed to simply right wing opinion, right-wing talk on the radio wouldn’t have a chance. Interesting opinion. I agree. Thanks for your contribution.
Comment by Bluedog49
There is a range of opinion, unfortunately nobody wanted to listen to liberal radio. It would probably be an end to AM radio. People would only listen for sprots. Ratings don’t lie. Air America failed miserably. While shows like Limbaugh, Hannity and Savage get millions of listeners.
May 2nd, 2007 at 1:59 pmThe University’s findings don’t surprise me after all you loons on the left supply O’Reilly with all the ammo he needs everytime you open your mouths! Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Who needs anyone to say anything, when *loons* like you fabricate the words of others - right SON?
Oh, and don’t forget to watch Glenn Beck’s show tonight on the hysterics of global warming. Don’t criticize the show unless you watch it and can refute what he says. Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
BAHAHA, you mean where that r*t*rd said global warming scientists are NAZIS? BAHAHA, really funny coming from a REAL NAZI like him and YOU!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:00 pmYeah, Al Franken lies. Hahaha. And O’Reilly won two Peabody Awards. *snort*
Comment by david
Yeh, *cough* O’really? O’really attended Kennedy school of politics at that liberal ivey league school. *hack*
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmIn the last two quarters, Olberman’s ratings have increased by about 76%. That’s why he got a huge new contract. During the same period, O’Reilly’s ratings have dropped by about 35%….. But laugh it up, don’t give it a second thought.
Comment by Bluedog49
Do you have a link for that, because I just pulled from Wikipedia that Olbermann’s ratings have dropped 21% since Nov 2006 and he is in third place behind Nancy Grace and OReilly.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmFrom Vapid :
here is another example of a left winger that uses insults and edits to attack the right, Michael Moore, who has been completly discredited. Yet, many on the far right take his words as the words of a god.
Whaaa? The far right bow to Michael Moore? hmmm.
The study is rock solid showing facts. Using BO’s own words. That hurts the trolls here. So what. They only show up for our entertainment anyways.
Time marches on and we are a little closer to the day when we say goodbye to GW and the holes in the head gang.
All of your WAWAWAWAWAWining about the left leaves you no time to look at the crooks on the right. Don’t you worry though, the rest of the country is watching.
BO and Coughlin, makes sense now.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:01 pmCrump’s Brother,
I already gave you a link that shows how Al Franken is but a poor and silly liar, desperat for attention.
Here is one for Olberman,
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/ archives/ 2006/ 08/ countdown_with_90.php
enjoy the reading and his lies.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmThere is a range of opinion, unfortunately nobody wanted to listen to liberal radio. It would probably be an end to AM radio. People would only listen for sprots. Ratings don’t lie. Air America failed miserably. While shows like Limbaugh, Hannity and Savage get millions of listeners.
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 1:59 pm
Actually ratings were doing OK in several markets - you’re wrong about that. What failed was the financing. Like most startups - they were undercapitalized. See unlike Limbaugh that wasn’t trying to create a network, just one show - they were trying to create an entire liberal *network*. Do you understand the difference? I know you’re terribly *slow* - so I assume you don’t.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:02 pmI already gave you a link that shows how Al Franken is but a poor and silly liar, desperat for attention.
Here is one for Olberman,
http://www.olbermannwatch.com/ archives/ 2006/ 08/ countdown_with_90.php
enjoy the reading and his lies.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:02 pm
You post olbermannwatch as a *resource*? BAHAHAAHA, you’re r*t*rded!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmYou’re cut from the same dishonest piece of sh*t cloth as O’Reilly - just like I said to you yesterday when you use that liberalism insult alias. You’re human filth.
I posted the fact that he has dropped 21% since Nov 2006, are you disputing that? He is still waaaaayyy behind OReilly by they way.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:03 pmThe University’s findings don’t surprise me after all you loons on the left supply O’Reilly with all the ammo he needs everytime you open your mouths!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pmComment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Really? How so?
You’re an incredible idiot!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pmComment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 1:48 pm
Care to elaborate?
Do you have a link for that, because I just pulled from Wikipedia that Olbermann’s ratings have dropped 21% since Nov 2006 and he is in third place behind Nancy Grace and OReilly. Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
You mean the wikipedia reference, where you carefully and *intentionally* ignored the line afterwards that said he had regained that readership in April?
LIAR!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:04 pmDo you have a link for that, because I just pulled from Wikipedia that Olbermann’s ratings have dropped 21% since Nov 2006 and he is in third place behind Nancy Grace and OReilly.
Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 2:01 pm
well, since I always tell this to Liberals, wikidpedia isn’t too reliable, but I have seen the same stats somewhere else.
Olberman’s ratings are dropping like a rock.
O’reilly’s ratings have dropped since the elections, just like all other network shows.
the fact remains that whether or not Olberman’s ratings have gone up or down, or O’Reilly’s gone up or down, O’Reilly still destroys Olberman’s ratings. I mean O’Reilly constantly has over 1 million viewers, most of the time, 2 million viewers. Olberman has anywhere between 200,000 to 500,000 viewers a night.
hmmm….and the winner is? O’Reilly! This kills Olberman, the reason why he is so pathetitc and constantly takes jabs at O’Reilly. They both started at the same time and O’Reilly has killed him.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmWhen Franken wrote the book, “Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot, and other thoughts,” Limbaugh was indeed big and fat. But, of course, the title of the book was a satirical play on the state of political discourse in America. I wouldn’t expect these clueless, knuckle-dragging, conservative tools to understand that, but as Franken says, satire is still satire, even if the object of the satire doesn’t get that it’s satire.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pmI posted the fact that he has dropped 21% since Nov 2006, are you disputing that? He is still waaaaayyy behind OReilly by they way. Comment by John M — May 2, 2007 @ 2:03 pm
I am, re-read the page, he has NOT dropped that much - he HAD dropped that much in March, of which he regained in April. So no he HAS NOT (present tense) dropped that much in his current ratings. So that’s an intentional LIE on your part.
You say you want an honest debate, then you post dishonest lies. You’re a piece of lying sh*t.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmExcept that ThinkProgress is a text-based media, not audio/video so “every second” means absolutely nothing. It’s like saying “on page two of O’Reilly’s broadcast.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:06 pmRead the ridiculous report. They tell you themselves that their methods have been discredited. But they are going use them anyway.
Today, the seven devices are mentioned as part of the lineage of propaganda study,
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmbut viewed as not rigorous enough for quantitative research and devoid of grand theory
for qualitative work (Jowett, 1987; Severin and Tankard, 1997; Sproule, 1989, 1997). A few
researchers have resurrected the seven propaganda devices to help explain language from
today’s news media. Severin and Tankard
http://journalism.indiana.edu/papers/oreillyjourstud07.pdf
Michael Moore, discredited?
Yeah, so was Chomsky by … Dershowitz??? He he he.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:08 pmIn his first few years after starting FOX News, Rupert Murdock lost over $250 million on the venture. Using the same standard by which they judge Air America, conservative news television should have been called a complete failure.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmBill O’Reilly IS a derogatory name…
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmBAHAHA, you mean where that r*t*rd said global warming scientists are NAZIS? BAHAHA, really funny coming from a REAL NAZI like him and YOU!!!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007 @ 2:00 pm
now this is a perfect example of a left wing hypocrite. he cries about the right wingers insulting, about pundits from the right insulting those they disagree with, yet what does he do?
insult, and insult, and insult anyone he deems to have a different opinion than him.
this guy, ValiantVenus, is but the perfect example of what is wrong with liberals today.
don’t worry ValianVenus, I know you are too stupid to figure out why you are the perfect example of what is wrong with liberals today. Just stand there, look pretty and keep on posting your vile and hate. You make look like the crazy lunatics that many, if not most, of you are.
peace and love brother.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:09 pmBush cultist: “Olberman’s ratings are dropping like a rock.”
Riiiight. That must be why MSNBC gave him a giant new contract. This is the kind of concise, logical thinking I have come to expect from Bush cultists.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmwell, since I always tell this to Liberals, wikidpedia isn’t too reliable, but I have seen the same stats somewhere else. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
They link to the actual ratings - idiot.
Olberman’s ratings are dropping like a rock. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
You’ve seen it elsewhere, but it’s a lie.
O’reilly’s ratings have dropped since the elections, just like all other network shows. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
Everyone EXCEPT Olbermann - whose ratings are BACK UP since the election.
the fact remains that whether or not Olberman’s ratings have gone up or down, or O’Reilly’s gone up or down, O’Reilly still destroys Olberman’s ratings. I mean O’Reilly constantly has over 1 million viewers, most of the time, 2 million viewers. Olberman has anywhere between 200,000 to 500,000 viewers a night. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
B*llsh*t, Olbermann WAS at 500k, he’s at 850k now.
hmmm….and the winner is? O’Reilly! This kills Olberman, the reason why he is so pathetitc and constantly takes jabs at O’Reilly. They both started at the same time and O’Reilly has killed him.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:05 pm
You’ve declared “mission accomplished” before the war is over - idiot.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:11 pmRead the ridiculous report. They tell you themselves that their methods have been discredited. But they are going use them anyway.
Comment by just me — May 2, 2007 @ 2:08 pm
Shhhhh…..don’t tell this to the Liberals, now they are going to turn on Indiana University and call it a right wing propaganda machine! how dare they claim that their own study and methods have been discredited, how dare they?!!!
hahahahaha!!!
funny how the left grabs unto any study, regardless of how well it was done, whether the methods were discredited or not and use it as fact.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmMichael Moore discredited???
Hmmm. Evidently this is because he was wrong about….. what exactly?
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:12 pmvaliantthehater,
sorry. I’m seeing a site which is reviewing what Keith says and then commenting on it from a right-wing perspective.
Let’s remember that while Keith’s show is a news show, it is full of slant. Keith has never said that it isn’t. So when he slants a story, and uses facts to back his assertions, I have little problem with that. the site you gave did nothing more than throw right-wing talking points on all of Keith’s assertions. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it hardly points out lies.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:13 pmSo Juan, is Moore taken seriously where you live? Around here, he’s a joke. Except among the radical left, who, of course, grovel at his feet.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:13 pmO’Reilly just exposes the Leftist-Islamic alliance. That’s why nuts hate him.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmHe’s had plenty of Moderate Liberals like Sen. Schumer on and agrees with them. He’s clased with the Free Market right like Neil Cavuto over Oil prices.
O’Reilly states his show is Opinion.
Teheran Keith Ullbermahn claims he’s a nonmm partisan news show.
Ulbermahn has insulted many on the Right personally.
This study is hypocritical and if you did an analysis of all Political commentators and blogs you would find insulting langauge.
now this is a perfect example of a left wing hypocrite. he cries about the right wingers insulting, about pundits from the right insulting those they disagree with, yet what does he do? Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I’m not laughing at being insulted - idiot. I’m laughing at how st*pid and just blatantly *false* the insult is. It’s ridiculous, just like your ignorant posts!!!
insult, and insult, and insult anyone he deems to have a different opinion than him. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
I don’t insult you because you have an *opinion*, I insult you because you’re so st*pid, you can’t distinguish the difference between an *uninformed-opinion* and a FACT!!!
this guy, ValiantVenus, is but the perfect example of what is wrong with liberals today. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
What, that we won’t put up with your sh*t, lies* and propaganda anymore? Maybe that’s why the MAJORITY of Americans agree with me, and not YOU on every major issue?
don’t worry ValianVenus, I know you are too stupid to figure out why you are the perfect example of what is wrong with liberals today. Just stand there, look pretty and keep on posting your vile and hate. You make look like the crazy lunatics that many, if not most, of you are.
peace and love brother. Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:09 pm
All Projection - sad…
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:14 pmShhhhh…..don’t tell this to the Liberals, now they are going to turn on Indiana University and call it a right wing propaganda machine! how dare they claim that their own study and methods have been discredited, how dare they?!!!
hahahahaha!!!
funny how the left grabs unto any study, regardless of how well it was done, whether the methods were discredited or not and use it as fact.
Comment by valiantthehater — May 2, 2007 @ 2:12 pm
Yeah, like Beck, discrediting the “global warming scientists?” BAHAHAA, you’re r*t*rded…
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:15 pmCrump’s Brother,
example of thinkprogress.org lying. with this article that they have put about O’Reilly. thinkprogress.org has lied through omission. They linked you up to the study that Indiana University did. They only link you up to the tables, they don’t link you up to the verbage and the conclusions of the study. I wonder why?
might it be because even Indiana University isn’t sure that the study itself was correct?
thinkprogress.org is doing here what they claim the right does all the time. Lying.
the sad part is that looka t all the left wingers that flocked to this article and swear by it now. How many of the left wingers will now go to their friends and fmailies and quote this article, which only tells half of the truth, when talking about O’Reilly.
all I can do is shake my head and be embarrassed for thinkprogress.org. they are using the tactics of the communists and nazis. But it is expected of them. I am in no way surprised.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:15 pm“Just stand there, look pretty and keep on posting your vile and hate. You make look like the crazy lunatics that many, if not most, of you are,” says the thoughtful poster who calls himself “VALIANTTHEHATER.”
Again, I feel like we’re dealing with a mental patient on the computer in the common room of his asylum.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:15 pm> here is another example of a left winger that uses insults and
> edits to attack the right, Michael Moore, who has been completly
> discredited.
LULZ!!
But it’s good to have confirmation that creeps, paranoiacs, warmongers, white collar criminals, gun nuts, irresponsible and
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmclueless politicos, talking point droids etc. are indeed, part of “the right”.
John M, still waiting for you to apologize for posting a LIE!
Tic, toc!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:16 pmvalianthethater,
I will submit that O’Reilly’s numbers are currently better than Olbermann’s, but with the political winds blowing as they are, that trend is in Keith’s favor.
but more to point how about this
“Bill O’Reilly’s viewers are actually less educated than Stewart’s”
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/
Read this article then tell me why the smart kids are watching the fake news over O’Reilly. Kinda makes you wonder who is watching O’Reilly and why.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmValiantVenusGrewFromUranus,
Look at the latest ratings:
Ulbermahn has been between 580,000 to 650,000.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmHis ratings have declined in recent months.
valiantthehater,
sorry. I’m seeing a site which is reviewing what Keith says and then commenting on it from a right-wing perspective.
Let’s remember that while Keith’s show is a news show, it is full of slant. Keith has never said that it isn’t. So when he slants a story, and uses facts to back his assertions, I have little problem with that. the site you gave did nothing more than throw right-wing talking points on all of Keith’s assertions. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but it hardly points out lies.
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 2, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
hmmm….sorry, Olbemran’s show is NOT a news show. It is a joke of a show, with him opining and bringing in guests which agree with him. Olberman is a sad, sad, very sad joke.
Heard of when he was robbed at gun point? had to run to the psychiatrist because the poor, weak minded fool couldn’t sleep for weeks.
the guy is an embarrasment to humanity.
he doesn’t use facts to get to the truth, just like thinkprogress.org has done with this article, he uses bits and pieces of data, edits what he needs to edit and then shows his edits as facts. We all know how editing a story, what someone said, etc can make someone say what they never said.
Michael Moore is excellent at doing this and Olberman is no different.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:18 pmI am, re-read the page, he has NOT dropped that much - he HAD dropped that much in March, of which he regained in April. So no he HAS NOT (present tense) dropped that much in his current ratings. So that’s an intentional LIE on your part.
You say you want an honest debate, then you post dishonest lies. You’re a piece of lying sh*t.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus
Can you show where it says he regained the 21% in April? I don’t see it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pm#123 - Dear valiantthehater - Please do me a favour - if you feel you must to respond to the pathetically vulgar poster who latches onto my every moniker, ValiantVEnusFromUranus, please address him/her as VVGFU - do not call him/her valiant venus (this poor person is neither valiant or lovely). I would hate to think your fine retorts were directed at me erroneously!! Happy hunting!!
Toooodles………
May 2nd, 2007 at 2:19 pmjust me,
could you please point out where the study calls itself flawed. I’m not finding that. I did find this though
“An earlier version of the study won a top faculty award from the Journalism Studies Division of the International C