Tester calls on top Gonzales aide to resign.
Tester calls on top Gonzales aide to resign.
“Montana’s senators angrily reacted to a report in today’s Washington Post that acting Associate Attorney General William Mercer worked to alter federal law so that he and a handful of other senior Justice officials could escape residency requirements that governed their assignments as U.S. attorneys.”
The change, approved by Congress in 2006, allowed Mercer to continue serving as U.S. attorney for Montana while working there just three days a month and spending the rest of his time as one of Gonzales’s top aides at Justice Department headquarters in Washington.
The legislation was added to the USA Patriot Act reauthorization — at Mercer’s request — on the same day that Gonzales told Montana’s chief federal judge that Mercer was not in violation of federal residency requirements.
“For months, I gave Bill Mercer the benefit of the doubt that he was shooting straight with me and with the people of Montana,” said Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), who called on Mercer to resign his position as U.S. attorney. … “Mr. Mercer was operating outside federal law, so he had the law changed. That might work in Alberto Gonzales’ Justice Department, but it’s not how we do business in Montana.”
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May 2nd, 2007 at 10:06 pmnight all!
So, wait, now Republicans need to resign for lawfully changing the law?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmGood for Tester!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:08 pmGood night, mghee.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmGo Tester! I love this guy. I wish he were my Senator.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:11 pmTester is a man of integrity…unlike Mercer and Gonzales
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmTester’s an organic farmer, too!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmOT, but HuffPo refers us to the NYT which wrote that Bush, talking to an industry trade group, said: “As you know, my position is clear – I’m the commander guy.†in reference to his veto today. The Decider prefers to be called The Commander Guy, it seems.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmThe next scene: Mercer giving Tester the Bush trademark middle finger wave. And with a merry “ho ho ho” and a “Go Cheney Yourself” he rides into the sunset for his three day vacation in Montana, out of our pocket.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:17 pmComment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:08 pm
Yeah, they legally change the law, so their illegal acts can fall within the boundaries of what’s legal.
Are you really that stupid? Don’t you see the problem in changing the law to accommodate illegal actions -changes made at the law-breaker’s request after lying to a judge?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:22 pm“As you know, my position is clear – I’m the commander guy.â€
Comment by midwestblue
**groan**
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:23 pmAre you really that stupid? Don’t you see the problem in changing the law to accommodate illegal actions -changes made at the law-breaker’s request after lying to a judge?
Comment by Gregor Samsa
I’m gonna guess that he’ll say: No…..and, yes.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmTher Republican party must be banned!
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmMontana Women love Montana men, their tough and honest..Love ya Tester…Blessings
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmmidwestblue:
What do you think of THIS topic though?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:27 pmWhat do you think of THIS topic though?
Comment by Jake
Oh that’s rich….
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:30 pmFor the record, the Nazis banned all other political parties in 1939 as well . . .
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:33 pmjake, is midwestblue the only one your do not ignore list you lying plagiarizing chickenhawk liar?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmFor the record, the Nazis banned all other political parties in 1939 as well . . .
Comment by Jake
You’d like that, wouldn’t you?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmI suspect that little bit of hanky panky with the Patriot Act will shortly be ripped out. Sounds like we need a complete “code” review for laws passed in the last six years.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:35 pmAnd you would know that jake because you are a nazi right.? Gee I guess you must be a made up 75 year old…Get stuffed troll.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmmidwestblue:
What do you think of THIS topic though?
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:27
Midwestblue, you’re obviously not on Jake’s “ignore list” yet. He’ll stalk you until you are, quick, insult him.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pmJohn Tester is right up there with Jim Webb, in my book. True patriots both.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:42 pmFor the record, I was not the one who claimed “Ther Republican party must be banned!” @ 10:27 pm. If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” wants to discuss why banning either the GOP or Democratic Party would be a bad idea, let me know.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:45 pmCan’t remember if I am on the ‘ignore list’ ™ or not, so I’ll call you a fascist di**head and say I don’t think Jay is correct jst in case I’m not. Up your Jak*off
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:50 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss why banning either the GOP or Democratic Party would be a bad idea, let me know.
Comment by Jake
No.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:53 pmmidwestblue:
Do YOU think that the Republican party must be banned?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:55 pmWe need a lot more people like Tester in DC, clean up all the scum left over from the NeoCon regime in 08.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:58 pmJake don’t go all Don Quixote on us because Jay is letting off steam – why don’t you confront him with that…. funny that Hitler’s act of enablement and the speeches around it banned Communism as being against the Fatherland/Reich. Just like how the Glenn Beck mainstream GOP thinks Democrats are traitors by opposing Chimpy….
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:02 pmCome on Jake, tell another rape joke.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 pmFor the record, blah,blah, blah, THE LIST, blah, blah ,blah…
– Jake-a$$
For the record, you are one dumba$$ neocon dork.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 pmTester speaking truth to power. Well done.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:03 pmNo need to bann the Republic party. They have pretty well destroyed it as a viable part through their own graft, corruption and misdeeds. Might come in handy as a receptacle for the few floaters still circling the bowl.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmThe real trouble with the “Republican Party” is that they’ve been led around by the nose by Cheney, Rove, Perle, and Wolfowitz and the rest of the criminal neocon cabal who are neither “conservative” nor Republican. What’s really conservative about this administration? NOTHING. War, death, debt and corruption–your new GOP.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:08 pm“So, wait, now Republicans need to resign for lawfully changing the law?
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:08 pm”
Jakeoff really hates the Constitution doesn’t he????
Jakeoff……
You do realize that it is a CRIME against the Constitution to create a law that evades the law after you have committed a crime????
Section 9 – Limits on Congress
The Migration or Importation of such Persons as any of the States now existing shall think proper to admit, shall not be prohibited by the Congress prior to the Year one thousand eight hundred and eight, but a tax or duty may be imposed on such Importation, not exceeding ten dollars for each Person.
The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.
No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed.
“Ex post facto
ex post facto adj. Formulated, enacted, or operating retroactively. [Med Lat., from what is done afterwards] Source: AHD
In U.S. Constitutional Law, the definition of what is ex post facto is more limited. The first definition of what exactly constitutes an ex post facto law is found in Calder v Bull (3 US 386 [1798]), in the opinion of Justice Chase:
1st. Every law that makes an action done before the passing of the law, and which was innocent when done, criminal; and punishes such action. 2d. Every law that aggravates a crime, or makes it greater than it was, when committed. 3d. Every law that changes the punishment, and inflicts a greater punishment, than the law annexed to the crime, when committed. 4th. Every law that alters the legal rules of evidence, and receives less, or different, testimony, than the law required at the time of the commission of the offense, in order to convict the offender.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:10 pmdamn…
good call Jake.
How’s it goin buddy?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:11 pmJust so you know, real republicans like me and Jake know how the corupt system works. We don’t see Americans as people, we see them as dupes and pawns to be lied to, this has nothing to do with politics, cant you see me and Jake love corruption, why else would we back such things?
You tell em Jake.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:12 pmoops, gotta run… sorry i couldn’t be on more…
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 pmpeace everyone…
“So, wait, now Republicans need to resign for lawfully changing the law?
Comment by Jake
No, just democrats and independents, like you. Oh, wait, you did say you were independent right?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:14 pmThe first Organic Farmer serve’s not in the House but in the Senate.
He comes not from California but from Montana.
He’s not a Vegan he’s a butcher shop owner.
He doesn’t like Gun control but he’s against the War in Iraq.
America is a great place.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pmPlease, RICO the F*#kers en masse. PLEASE!
RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO!
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:16 pmRICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO! RICO!
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I’m fine, whiteyfresh. What exactly was a “good call”?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:17 pmJust ban the Republican party and all the problems will go away.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:25 pm“What exactly was a “good callâ€?”
not this:
“Anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss the specifics of how an OB/GYN can examine the hymen on females, or any other possible options, let me know.
Comment by Jake — April 13, 2007 @ 11:05 pmâ€
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:33 pmThere will be NO banning of the Republican party or ANY other party.
This is America.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmFor the record, the Nazis banned all other political parties in 1939 as well . . .
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
Hey, Jake, Karl Rove is officially on record as stating he wanted to create a permanent Republican majority in this country. Sounds pretty damned Nazi-fied to me, Jake. thank God Karl and his henchmen turned out to be, how shall we say, so incredibly God-damned incompetent.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:34 pmTake that up with those above, CD.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:36 pmThere will be NO banning of the Republican party or ANY other party.
This is America.
Comment by CD
Yes.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:37 pmLarge props for the freshman congressman!
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:40 pmThe Republicans are the party of greed and war. It must be banned!
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:41 pmThe Democratic Party is for Peace and Progress. There should only be one party in America. The Republicans are criminals, throw them into jail!
Just so you know, real republicans like me and Jake know how the corupt system works. We don’t see Americans as people, we see them as dupes and pawns to be lied to, this has nothing to do with politics, cant you see me and Jake love corruption, why else would we back such things?
You tell em Jake.
Comment by Silly Troll — May 2, 2007 @ 11:12 pm
Silly Troll, if only you could teach Jake to be honest like you are, maybe we could love him too.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:42 pmRove’s “permanent Republican majority” might of had a chance if the Republicans had something more than war, death, debt, and corruption to offer America. People can clearly see that the Bush Administration is in this only for their campaign contributors. “Conservatives” will have to sit this one out and maybe wait for the next “permanent Republican majority.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmI’m amazed that TP hasn’t countered Glenn Beck’s show tonight about the myths of global warming!
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmIf anyone NOT on the Ignore List doesn’t understand the difference between the Nazis (and Jay Randall) BANNING other political parties and in a democracy, one party legally being elected to Congress, say, like the Democrats controlled the U.S. House from to 1931 to 1995, let me know.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:45 pmI think that one thing we’ve learned over the past six years is that it is not reasonable to give the benefit of the doubt to people who work for George Bush. Too often, the reason they’re in their positions is because they’re willing to take advantage of others in pursuing the Bush agenda.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:46 pmMontana Women love Montana men, their tough and honest..Love ya Tester…Blessings
Comment by Sharon
I really hate to say this Sharon,and I apologize, but it’s true, Cheney is a Montana man.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pm“Too often, the reason they’re in their positions is because they’re willing to take advantage of others in pursuing the Bush agenda.
Comment by ManipulationNation — May 2, 2007″
And you can provide some examples?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:51 pm“I really hate to say this Sharon,and I apologize, but it’s true, Cheney is a Montana man.
Comment by Silly Troll — May 2, 2007″
And your point is?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmAnd you can provide some examples?
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Can you provide an intelligent question?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmlike the Democrats controlled the U.S. House from to 1931 to 1995, let me know. Comment by Jake
And America never became fascist or communist during that time..so much for our Republican theory eh Jake? So Jake why do we want to destroy that GD piece of paper again?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:54 pmCheney is a Montana man.
Comment by Silly Troll
Oh god, no. Please….no.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:55 pmAnd you can provide some examples?
Comment by michael
Can you ever stop asking inane questions pepperdine puss?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 pmI’m amazed that TP hasn’t countered Glenn Beck’s show tonight about the myths of global warming! Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
I’m amazed that you haven’t countered Harry Potter’s Hogwarth magic…
See SON, there’s no need to respond to a “myth” like there’s a *debate* about global warming. The only debate, is how st*pid are the deniers? I say you’re r*t*rded, but I think I’m being generous.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 pmAnd your point is?
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
And your point is?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:56 pmFor the record, the Nazis banned all other political parties in 1939 as well . . . Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:33 pm
You mean like Ann Coulter, and many *central* Republicans have called for in the US? Or maybe you were thinking of the article yesterday by the Republican calling for a Military Coup to end the Liberal influence on the Country. Yep, you’re definitely NAZIs.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 pm“Can you provide an intelligent question?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007″
I just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:57 pmI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Where? In your head doesn’t count – son…
I know it’s hard for 3rd graders like yourself to understand the difference between an *intelligent-question*, and a rhetorical ramble. But you qualify for the latter. Son..
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmAnd you can provide some examples?
Comment by michael
You are a perfect example of ‘IT’
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 amWaiting for that intelligent question michael?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 am“See SON, there’s no need to respond to a “myth†like there’s a *debate* about global warming. The only debate, is how st*pid are the deniers? I say you’re r*t*rded, but I think I’m being generous.
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007″
Well, said the spider to the bee, I’m glad you stepped into my trap! Explain to all of us why the deniers are stupid? I can’t wait to hear your response?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:00 am“You mean like Ann Coulter, and many *central* Republicans have called for in the US?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007″
What has Ann Coulter called for?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:02 amSo michael, you previously said Gore wasn’t a climate expert, so what he said didn’t matter. Why does Beck (not a climate expert) not have the same qualifiers? Or are you just being a hypocritical 3rd grader again – son?
You really should think through your propaganda attacks better son, you look more clumsy than Pravda!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:03 amWhat has Ann Coulter called for?
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Says the troll that links to her? Wow, how r*t*rded can you be son? Stop sniffing your model airplane glue, ok, child?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 amWell, said the spider to the bee, I’m glad you stepped into my trap! Explain to all of us why the deniers are stupid? I can’t wait to hear your response? Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:00 am
Said the foot, to the cockroach – what did you say again useless bug? Crunch!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:04 amI was wondering why Tester’s been quiet all this time, although even a dead man could represent Montana better than Conrad Burns. I’m glad that he finally spoke up.
Twenty Bucks, Same as in Town is back with a new edition that showcases d r i f t g l a s s, the Rude Pundit, Digby and a new photo essay by the recently unretired Morse.
Enjoy and jiggle the toilet handle before you go to bed.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 ammikey, you missed my son, he was looking for you earlier. He’s at public school. I’m going to ask him (he’s 5 and in kindergarten) if this sentence sounds correct or not…
I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Sorry you were ‘left behind’…. anyhow why don’t you try backing up that statement about public schools, intelligence and nonsense – please show your work – you can draw pictures if you want too…
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 am“You are a perfect example of ‘IT’
Comment by Silly Troll — May 3, 2007″
Why is it that you dumb liberals always stop short of your responses. You make stupid comments and charges but always leave off the second part of the sentence. For example: “You are a perfect example of ‘IT’, but then you fail to explain why! Dopes!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:05 amSo michael, when did Glenn Beck submit his peer reviewed *scientific* proof again? Oh wait – he *didn’t*?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 am“It’s not illegal if we just change the law after the fact….”
New motto of the DOJ.
Cheers,
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 amBack on topic.
Gonzales should resign, he like the rest of the wingNUTS NewAgeNazis would use the constitution as toilet paper if they could.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:06 am“So michael, you previously said Gore wasn’t a climate expert, so what he said didn’t matter. Why does Beck (not a climate expert) not have the same qualifiers? Or are you just being a hypocritical 3rd grader again – son?
You really should think through your propaganda attacks better son, you look more clumsy than Pravda!
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 3, 2007″
Beck never claimed to be. He didn’t need to, he had them on his program tonight. It’s obvious you didn’t watch it otherwise you would have something more intelligent to counter?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amAnd you can provide some examples?
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:51 pm
Can you provide some examples where this isn’t true?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amAnd your point is?
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:54 pm
Are you saying Cheney isn’t from Montana?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 am“Well, said the spider to the bee, I’m glad you stepped into my trap!…
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007″
that line should get you banned from the internets for life.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 am“why don’t you try backing up that statement about public schools, intelligence and nonsense – please show your work – you can draw pictures if you want too…
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 3, 2007″
SURE! Read Valiant’s posts!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:09 amI guess the Iraq/Terrorist/$8 homework from yesterday was a bit hard for you, mikey. Not to worry, getting out of first grade is not dependent on knowing the analysis of such a complex problem…. but knowing your letters, numbers and colours is.
Are you okay with that?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:11 am“Can you provide an intelligent question?
Comment by ValiantVenusGrewFromUranus — May 2, 2007″
I just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
We just had a conference and couldn’t find an intelligent question you asked. So refresh our memory, what was that supposed intelligent question, please.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:11 amthat line should get you banned from the internets for life.
Comment by pgw
Too funny.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amOh god, no. Please….no.
Comment by Zooey
Actually he’s from Wyoming but Addington thinks Cheney is a Montana man.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:12 amhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/05/AR2006010501902_pf.html
Cheney is from Wyoming he has never lived in Montana.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 am“Can you provide some examples where this isn’t true?
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
Don’t have to. I didn’t make the comment. Didn’t they teach you the basic debating skills in your 3rd grade class?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:13 am“Are you saying Cheney isn’t from Montana?
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
Nope!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 amI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael
Since when is asking a mulltitude of asinine questions, nonstop, a sign of intelligence?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:14 am“that line should get you banned from the internets for life.
Comment by pgw — May 3, 2007″
Try it?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 amWhen Gallileo said the Earth revolved around the Sun he was imprisoned by people like your deniers who refused to accept the science.
Can you explain what the deniers hope to gain by ignoring the evidence.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 am“For the record, you are one dumba$$ neocon dork.”
Nah, he’s just a drama queen who has to try to make every thread about him.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 am“It’s not illegal if we just change the law after the fact….†New motto of the DOJ. Cheers, Comment by Arne Langsetmo — May 3, 2007 @ 12:06 am
That should sound familiar to many – it’s how the Nazis operated…
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 ammikey, that’s called a ‘non sequitor’ – please look that up. Why don’t you provide us your critical analysis of the graduates of the US Public School system and why they invariably produces nonsense…. go on, you obviously feel strongly about that… provide us some references. Now let me caution you here – Chimpy says ‘no child is left behind’. And he also says ‘Anyone who is not for us is against us’… these are dangerous waters….
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 amDon’t have to. I didn’t make the comment. Didn’t they teach you the basic debating skills in your 3rd grade class?
Comment by michael
Did they teach you that questions are not answers in your second grade special education classes?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:15 amWhat has Ann Coulter called for?
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:02 am
Well she should start by asking for a heart.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 am“We just had a conference and couldn’t find an intelligent question you asked. So refresh our memory, what was that supposed intelligent question, please.
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
Anytime I question one of your dumb liberal comments!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 am[Jake]: If anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†wants to discuss…
Oh, go “Cheney” yourself, you little hypocritical RW authoritarian twit.
We’ll decide for ourselves who wants to discuss what. And, much as you may dislike it and wish it different, we won’t ask your permission.
Cheers,
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amDon’t have to. I didn’t make the comment. Didn’t they teach you the basic debating skills in your 3rd grade class? Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:13 am
You didn’t make any *comments*? That’s true, you didn’t ask any questions, or debate any points either! Didn’t they teach you basic debating skills in your 3rd grade class? Because so far, the “kindergarten” antics you use aren’t very mature, but keep posting them! They remind everyone what a bunch of incompetent and ill informed wacos you wingNUTS are.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:16 amActually he’s from Wyoming but Addington thinks Cheney is a Montana man.
Comment by Silly Troll
Oy, f*ck Addington.
I’m sure a lot of guys have….
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 am“Too funny.
Comment by Zooey — May 3, 2007″
Don’t get me started zooey?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:17 amI guess you haven’t made it to Third Grade yet mikey – they teach you about assertions in Third Grade: good ones, bad ones, ones with solid logic in support of them, one’s without….
I guess they never teach you about cowardice, so not running away from your assertions is something you have to learn for yourself – best of luck finding some moral fortitude mikey.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 amSURE! Read Valiant’s posts!
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:09 am
They’re surely more entertaining than your childish tirades…
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 amI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael
And from where did Rush graduate whos nonsense you repeat so ernestly?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 amAnytime I question one of your dumb liberal comments!
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Anytime you prove you’re a dumb conservative, incapable of questioning anything
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:18 am“Can you explain what the deniers hope to gain by ignoring the evidence.
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
WHAT EVIDENCE?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:19 am“Well she should start by asking for a heart.
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
I think the real problem is that liberals don’t have a big enough BRAIN to understand her!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 amDon’t have to. I didn’t make the comment. Didn’t they teach you the basic debating skills in your 3rd grade class?
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:13 am
So is it true you went to Pepperdine, michael?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 amAnd from where did Rush graduate whos nonsense you repeat so ernestly? Comment by Silly Troll — May 3, 2007 @ 12:18 am
Where did he go to school? The “I’ve stayed at holiday Inn” U.?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:20 amDon’t get me started zooey?
Comment by michael
Don’t get you started doing what, michael? Being smart?
Take responsibility for yourself. I don’t get you “started,” you get yourself started.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 am“Are you saying Cheney isn’t from Montana?
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
Nope!
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:14 am
Then you’re saying he is from Montana?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:22 amSo refresh our memory, what was that supposed intelligent question, please.
Comment by Shane — May 3, 2007″
Anytime I question one of your dumb liberal comments!
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:16 am
Can you read or not michael. I wasn’t asking for an answer I was asking for a question. Please pay better attention.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:24 am““that line should get you banned from the internets for life.
Comment by pgw — May 3, 2007″
Try it?
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 ”
first thing: that should be a period instead of question mark, smartacus. secondly: i think it’s a little late for you to be up when you have school tomorrow.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:25 amthink the real problem is that liberals don’t have a big enough BRAIN to understand her!
Comment by michael
Must be why she pleaded the fifth huh? Didn’t want to be understood, eh? How big must her, and your, brain be to think the fifth amendment is hard to understand? It, sadly, is a copout, worse by an intelligent person.
Michael, describe your mental image of a liberal. (This oughtta be funny)
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 amCheney is from Wyoming, the other Fargo Movie.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 amWHAT EVIDENCE?
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:19 am
So you think the 99% of scientists who believe global warming is man made are wrong? Do you believe they are wrong about evolution too?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 amDumbutt Addington, another scholarly suck ass who doesn’t use his brain to get ahead, but his lip-locking skills, thinks Cheney is a Montana man.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:30 amI think the real problem is that liberals don’t have a big enough BRAIN to understand her!
Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Oh right, Coulter is “deep” and we don’t get her, that’s it. How did you ever figure her out michael, tell us oh wise one.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:31 amWHAT EVIDENCE?
Comment by michael
Evidence of your intelligence. Surely someone as smart as you doesn’t need to parrot Limbaugh or Coulter?, Right? You don’t need to ask questions right michael?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:32 ammikey you didn’t hand in your homework from last night – I’m beginning to think you don’t take debate seriously….
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 amSo you think the 99% of scientists who believe global warming is man made are wrong? Do you believe they are wrong about evolution too?
Comment by Shane
The IPCC 4th Assessment Report is due out tomorrow. I hope TP has a thread on it, as it’s very important.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 amI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
Snobby? you? never.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:33 am#122 — Oops. Not tomorrow, May 4. Sorry.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:34 amjust did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael — May 2, 2007 @ 11:57 pm
mikey, did you do Ivy League, like Jason Fact Mangler? Should I be impressed……… ?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 amI think the real problem is that liberals don’t have a big enough BRAIN to understand her! Comment by michael — May 3, 2007 @ 12:20 am
Oh, poor deluded boy, you don’t *think*, that’s the problem with all of your silly wingNUT conclusions!!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:41 ammikey, did you do Ivy League, like Jason Fact Mangler? Should I be impressed……… ? Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 3, 2007 @ 12:39 am
Yeah, he learned how to pot plants at HomeDepotU – you know, the ivy league of planting?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 amMichael is irrelevant.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:43 amMichael is irrelevant.
Comment by Silly Troll
‘Nuff said.
Goodnight all!
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:46 amI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael
Look at this sentence structure. It is not as an educated person would express. Let’s delve into this genius.
I know it’s hard for people like you
What is hard michael? Are you writing porno?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:52 amWhats wrong with using the word difficult?
What is hard michael? Are you writing porno?
Whats wrong with using the word difficult?
Comment by Silly Troll — May 3, 2007 @ 12:52 am
Didn’t you know? Little michael gets *hard*, by pretending he has a pair of b*lls – because he’s such a little coward. It’s all of the self loathing…
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:53 amOh man, just where does this all stop, this is just maddening. How did these criminals get away with this this long, I know, I know, the compliant media bowing to the Bush crime family, and the 28%ers that don’t have a brain (Jake the Fake), but really this is insane how far the corruption goes.
Hating the Repukian MAFIA daily, oh and you too Jake the Fake, you are still a liar and scum.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 amI haven’t read all the posts here tonight – too much name calling and bullying with no real substance. The Progressives here should be ashamed to fall to the level of the bushites and cheneycraps. Let the trolls and the fascists hang themselves — don’t stoop to their level.
Thank you.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:44 amAgain – I haven’t read all the posts tonight, but it appears to me that things are unraveling out of control. True progressives should not be name calling and bullying like the bushites and cheneycraps — it is unbecoming — and frankly just plain stupid. Get a grip! We are in the fight of a life time and our country is at stake. Stay focused and stop bullying. When the trolls come ‘atrollin, ignore them – they don’t deserve honest debate. But, please, do not stoop to their level — it is just plain ugly!
Thank you………..
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:51 amWhen will you all just learn to ignore the Michael’s and Jakes? I’m new here and out of the 100 plus comments most are just meaningless arguments with conservative supporters who never actually offer anything of value or any real discussion, yet they manage to hi-jack every thread on here with the same talking points that you people insist on refuting over and over. You all KNOW they’re not going to accept any proof or change their minds so why bother? Just ignore them please!! I’m interested in hearing real opinions on the topics, not constant arguing with people who actually make Mr. Bush look intelligent.
May 3rd, 2007 at 2:02 amI love it.
A bunch of kids playing in a sandbox in their own backyard. Another kid, who doesn’t even live on the same block as the other kids, comes along and kicks sand in the face of the kids who were playing and they are just supposed to sit there and take it.
Nice.
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:14 amIf anyone NOT on the Ignore List doesn’t understand the difference between the Nazis (and Jay Randall) BANNING other political parties and in a democracy, one party legally being elected to Congress, say, like the Democrats controlled the U.S. House from to 1931 to 1995, let me know.
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 11:45 pm
Just to correct your error, Jake, the Democrats did NOT control the US House for the entire period.
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:18 amIn fact, the Republicans would’ve controlled the House from 1931 to 1933 if a few members didn’t die (making it, I believe, the only time when the minority party became the majority). But, in 1947 the House went from a 243/190 Dem/Rep membership to a 188/246 Dem/Rep House (IOW, Republican Majority for 2 years). In 1953, the House went from 234/199 Dem/Rep membership to 213/221 Dem/Rep House (IOW, Republican Majority for 2 years.
But, if you want to talk about banning political parties, the Republicans are the only ones who’ve attempted to do that in this country’s history. (Perhaps I shouldn’t tar all Republicans with that brush–only Joe McCarthy. You might want to read up on the HUAC hearings and see how one man attempted to infringe on the First Amendment rights of American citizens.)
I’m glad you caught that error, JosephW. I tried to post a correction last night by my ISP went down. Yes, Jake the Joke skipped the 80th and 83rd Congress.
Jake also made another factual error. He repeated above that Hitler banned all political parties in 1939. This is wrong. Hitler banned all political parties on 14 July 1933. And there were plenty of American Republicans who thought this was a great idea. Henry Ford thought Adolph was A O K.
Now the link to the thread is that Republicans seem to have a problem with names and dates and facts. When you’re doing something illegal, it doesn’t make it okay to answer NO on the day you’ve changed the law and pretend that that makes all the past wrongdoing right.
And also like to point out the hypocrisy here. So, this guy is okay with you and his fiddling of his residency requirements. But making illegal immigrants legal through a change of the law, an amnesty, or some inclusion program, that’s not okay. Eh? Very odd. It’s essentially the same principle.
I have found 90% of Jake’s proofs are factual errors or distortions. But then Republicans seem to have a problem coordinating mind and mouth. I hear science is working on a vaccine.
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:16 amI just did! I know it’s hard for people like you with public school educations to understand the difference intelligence and nonsense.
Comment by michael
I’ve already told you a number of times in the past two+ months, mikey, that my public high school produced a Nobel Prize laureate in Physics, a former Secretary of State, a Newbery Medalist, at least one Pulitzer Prize winner and asked you what luminaries went to your supposedly superior private high school. Is it so hard for you to answer?
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:19 amIs it also too hard for you to use a period (.) rather than a question mark (?) in a sentence that isn’t a question? Or don’t they teach punctuation in the “superior” private schools you attended?
According to wikipedia, Cheney is not from Montana:
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:25 am“Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, to Richard Herbert Cheney and Marjorie Lorraine Dickey. He attended Calvert Elementary School[2][3] before his family moved to Casper, Wyoming,[4] where he attended Natrona County High School”
‘michael’ can’t even compose complete sentences, and he belittles public education….
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:59 amThank You Lora, I left the site early last night and back here late this A.M..
cheney has a large home in Wyoming, never lived in Montana..Suspect he will move to DUBI soon……Blessings
May 3rd, 2007 at 11:15 amJake is so low he sees the underside of snake poop when peering up.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:42 pmJake — The problem is not changing the law, per se. The problem is that the request to change the law shows that he knew he was in the wrong in the first place.
RemoveBush — Your own quotes show that “ex post facto” does not apply here. A law that makes something illegal, subject to greater penalty, or easier to prove after the fact is ex post facto. The change here was the opposite.
Shane — In this country, the accused enjoy a presumption of innocence, not guilt. Michael is therefore justified in asking for evidence of guilt, and you are out of line to ask for evidence of innocence, first.
Also: Gallileo’s main opponents were the university professors wedded to the pagan Greek cosmology of Ptolemy. He ran into trouble with the Church b/c he was arrogant, his success drew much envy from his colleagues, and b/c too many churchmen were convinced that Ptolemaic “science” was taught by the Bible (which it wasn’t, btw). Galileo himself was a strong believer in the Bible
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:26 pm