Via Instaputz, here’s National Review’s Victor Davis Hanson today:
The war will be won or lost, like it or not, fairly or unjustly, in the next six months in Baghdad.
Victor Davis Hanson three months ago:
I hope there is that sense of urgency in both Washington and at Centcom, a sense that the ante has been raised and that our success or failure in the next six months will determine the course of our policy and of the region for years to come.
Is that one friedman unit, or two?
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:02 pm“The sun’ll come out TOMORROW. Bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there’ll be SUN. I love you TOMORROW; you’re always a day away.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:03 pmCan you imagine the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in 1942?
“We’ve lost to the Japanese and Germans. It’s time to withdraw funding for the troops and try negotiating.”
LOL
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pmAbout how long is a neocons attention span?
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:06 pmThat’s the beauty of the Friedman unit (as opposed to Friedman’s unit, which I think we can all agree we do not want anything to do with)… it is like chasing rainbows… it’s always just right over there.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:07 pmThat’s one Friedman Unit, which is equivalent to two Condi Units.
Yeah, another “six more months” prediction.
What else is new with these charlatans and Bush sycophants?
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:08 pm#1 overlapping Friedman units perhaps?
A Freidman-synergistic temporal phenomenon I think is the scientific term for it.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmHanson: Uh, that was a typo. I meant to say 9 months. Yeah 9 months, like it or not.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:09 pmOnly nine-hundred and ninety-six years to go on the 1000-year Bush Reich’s imperial occupation of Eye-rack.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:11 pmdude, the freidman unit is one the funniest things i’ve learned in a loooong time…
:D
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:12 pmreset your expectations. try 60 months.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pm“Can you imagine the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in 1942?
“We’ve lost to the Japanese and Germans. It’s time to withdraw funding for the troops and try negotiating.â€
LOL
Comment by muckdog — May 2, 2007″
Can you imagine if Franklin Roosevelt had been so incompetent that instead defeating the Germans, Japanese and Italians in four years he actually got stuck in North Africa and was fought to a standstill by a couple of third rate military powers?
-GSD
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:18 pmCan you imagine the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in 1942? “We’ve lost to the Japanese and Germans. It’s time to withdraw funding for the troops and try negotiating.â€LOL Comment by muckdog — May 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
Yeah, they saved us from wingNUTS like you siding with the Germans. If Prescott Bush had his way, we’d all be speaking German. This time around, you sided with the Saudis and Pakistanis (the countries who’s citizens attacked us), and attacked the Iraqis (the country that hated Al Qaeda).
Can you imagine if we’d had characters like George Bush or Congressman BoneHead during WWII? They’d have helped round up the Jews for Hitler!
You’re a piece of sh*t muck.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmThey do realise that 6 months is around 26 weeks? Education was never a strong Republican point .
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:19 pmThat 6 month windows has been shifting from the beginning. They said 3 years ago we would either win or lose the war in 6 months. We know we didn’t win, but the wingNUTS as usual can’t face reality.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmNo, the war will last longer. You can’t expect for the insurgents and Al Qaeda to take it slower there.
Baghdad is already the most dangerous city on Earth now.
Hanson has no idea of what he’s talking about.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmApparently 1st grade mathematics isn’t a requirement to be a National Review columnist.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:20 pmIf Bush had been in office when we were attacked by the Japanese, he would have invaded Antarctica just to be sure there were no Germans or Japanese there – so they’d come to Antarctica to fight us there, instead of following us home!
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmI’ll see your Friedman and raise you 2/3 of another Friedman.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmThen we’ll see if the surge is a success.
Apparently 1st grade mathematics isn’t a requirement to be a National Review columnist. Comment by Namtillaku — May 2, 2007 @ 9:20 pm
Or a Republican partisan.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:21 pmImagine Harry Truman letting bin Laden slip away at Tora Bora so the vanity war in Iraq could get ginned up!
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:23 pmLestadelc is right. Hanson has created two temporally overlapping Friedman Units. He started the first three months ago and then began another while the first was only halfway to completion. I don’t know what this means, but I just got done watching Back to the Future II, so I know it’s not good.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:24 pmI hate to break it to you, muckdog. But the Americans only entered the war in 1942. Always late. Pearl Harbor was 7 December 1941 and Hitler declared war on America 12 Dec 1941. (Yes, Hitler declared war first. Those Republican isolationists didn’t want to offend Der Furher.)
BTW, the US spend the first year of the Pacific War retreating. And the next year didn’t go so well either. But the Democrats at home weren’t so stupid as to give the rich tax cuts and overstretch the military. No, they drafted soldiers, rationed goods, imposed wage & price controls and saw to it that war was won without profiteering and without weasels sneaking out of doing their duty. No, that was left to the Father Coughlins and the Lucky Lindberghs who admired Benito, Adolph, and Tojo.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:25 pmwhy do i get the feeling that most of the people here are puttering around their homes and coming back and hitting refresh every 10-20 minutes?
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:26 pm__ __
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Our US led invasion was based on lies, the events of the so called war have been lies and to make sure the lies can continue, restrictions are being put on communications from the troops.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:28 pmlie after lie after lie…. screw the troops, right?
24 Whitey ~ because that’s exactly what’s goin on.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:29 pmWatching SA and Denver downstairs…..
dang it! posting mucked up my picture!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmAll of the Bush rump swabs have been saying “give it another x months” for three years now. No. No more months, it’s over you spoiled children, the adults have taken control.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:30 pmAmerica did not enter the war until 1942 – but defense contractors were stepping up production in preparation several years beforehand, so when Roosevelt could stall no longer at least the troops had the tools of war to successfully fight.
The Truman Committee came to be before the first American round was fired, when the deals made by some defense contractors came to his attention and he was determined to put an end to war profiteering before it got a good start.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:31 pmJay-”rump swabs”? Oh, this is a good night…
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:33 pm>:D
24 Whitey ~ because that’s exactly what’s goin on.
Watching SA and Denver downstairs…..
Comment by RUCerious
Yup. Except not watching a game. :)
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:34 pmanother 6 mos. and another 50 Billion
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:35 pmDamn, there’s been so many “Friedman unit” predictions that I simply cannot keep track anymore. Over and over and over again. When will these people finally accept the truth? And what will it take?
Sigh… don’t bother answering. I already know the answer and it was a rhetorical question, anyway.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:37 pmZooey: “raises eyebrow”
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmmuckdog; it appears that you & valiant are eating from the same chamber pot. EEEEEWWWWW!!!
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pmStill, 6 months is a nice number. Half a year, so easy to say.
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:41 pmZooey: “raises eyebrowâ€
Comment by whiteyfresh
Yes, dear? You have a question? :)
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:43 pmyou were the one who was vague, not me…
raises other eyebrow..
;)
May 2nd, 2007 at 9:54 pmyou were the one who was vague, not me…
raises other eyebrow..
;)
Comment by whiteyfresh
Heh. Hmmmm….
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:00 pmdavid:
How great is America that we can fight a war now WITHOUT 50% GNP going to the defense budget?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:03 pmHow great is America that we can fight a war now WITHOUT 50% GNP going to the defense budget? Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
Or how weak is your commitment, when you claim it’s the greatest struggle we’ve ever faced, yet you refuse to make any sacrifices?
Coward.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:04 pmCan you imagine the likes of Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi in 1942?
“We’ve lost to the Japanese and Germans. It’s time to withdraw funding for the troops and try negotiating.â€
LOL
Comment by muckdog — May 2, 2007 @ 9:06 pm
What an A$$hole- World War II was fought and won under “Liberals”-FDR and Truman lead the American people. You are so stupid-get a life. None of your rethug heros would risk their life to defend this country. You are a tool.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:09 pm#40 Jake,
And we aren’t fighting a World War, just in the middle of someone else’s civil war, that we set off.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:10 pmIn some ways, upside00, this is MORE dire than WWII — at least Hitler never got a hold of a nuke.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:12 pm6 MORE months you say?
…Thank you sir…
…may I have another…
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:14 pmWhat happened to upside00’s post?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:15 pmdavid:
How great is America that we can fight a war now WITHOUT 50% GNP going to the defense budget?
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:03 pm
jake, What percent of our GNP was spent on Kosovo ? Since your an a$$wipe you will not answer.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:16 pmJake stays, but upside00 goes?
Stupid, TP.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:18 pmat least Hitler never got a hold of a nuke.
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
What does the Iraq occupation got to do with a nuclear bomb, stupid?
What’s a nuke got to do with the topic of the thread?
Stupid.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:24 pmMore trolls scraping bottom, I see. How low can they go?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:25 pmIn some ways, upside00, this is MORE dire than WWII — at least Hitler never got a hold of a nuke.
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
jake, If you haven’t read a real newspaper lately-THE AXIS OF EVIL HAS MORE THAN ONE- under your boys watch. Your as stupid and as incompetent as boy george. Also, right under your boys nose the country of Iran (see axis of evil) is working around the clock to get one. Your idiot has allowed North Korea and Iran to have “NUKES”. Note: that idiot is not going to anything about it-so just keep bitiching about “liberals”- your side are the failures.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:26 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List” for personal attacks such as “a$$wipe” has a question about any of my posts, please let me know.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:31 pmHow did jake get so stupis?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:34 pmJake…Do you feel pain from the evilness eating you up from the inside?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:36 pmAnyone else?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†for personal attacks such as “a$$wipe†has a question about any of my posts, please let me know.
Comment by Jake
Nope, I’ve got is a$$wipe.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:37 pmThis jackass Hanson ‘graces’ the pages of the Albuquerque Journal from time to time- the paper’s owner is a huge CONTURD.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:38 pmJake,
Where did the Nuke comment come from? Maybe you were mixing up Iraq and N Korea.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:39 pmMe too, jake is an A$$wipe.
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:40 pmJake,
Are you naturally this stupid or do you practice for hours before posting on ThinkProgress?
Or is it a product you buy at the drugstore?
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:44 pmJake,
Are you naturally this stupid or do you practice for hours before posting on ThinkProgress?
Comment by Gregor Samsa
It’s natural, at least since his Dad used his head to drive fence posts in the ground, when he was a child.
=D
What the heck, i’m on Jake-a$$ the fake’s THE LIST anyway…..
May 2nd, 2007 at 10:51 pmFor anyone NOT on the “Ignore List”: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9965764
Behind Bush’s Veto: A Father’s Loss, a Humble Pen
by Eric Weiner
NPR.org, May 2, 2007 · The pen President Bush used to veto the Iraq spending bill—one of only two vetoes of his presidency—didn’t look like anything special: a $2 roller ball, brand unknown. In fact, it was very special indeed: rich with political symbolism and, for one father in Ohio, a precious memento of a son killed in Iraq.
The pen belonged to Robert Derga, an engineer from Uniontown, Ohio. In May 2005, his son, Dustin Derga, a Marine Corps Reserve corporal, was on patrol in Iraq’s Anbar province. His unit was searching house to house for insurgents. It was a long day, and they had fallen into a routine, as much as anything can be called routine in Iraq. Knock. Wait for a response. Break the door down. Search. At the last house they were to search that day, the insurgents were waiting with heavy machine guns. An armor-piercing round hit 24-year-old Dustin Derga in the back. He died almost instantly.
Nearly two years later, on April 16, Robert Degra was invited to visit the White House along with other families of fallen service members. Derga’s invitation was not entirely a coincidence: His views on the war in Iraq are in lockstep with those of President Bush. Still, he was surprised when White House aides invited him to the Oval Office for a private meeting with the president. They talked for 45 minutes.
As he was saying goodbye, Derga gave the president a pen, a cheap roller ball he had used to write letter to his son in Iraq.
“I looked the president squarely in the eye and handed it to him and said, ‘If this comes down to the veto, I’d be honored if you used this pen to sign it,’” Derga recalls. At first, President Bush was taken aback by the request, but he soon agreed to use the pen.
Earlier this week, Derga read news reports about the impending veto. He e-mailed a White House aide, reminding him of President Bush’s promise. Tuesday evening, Derga’s phone rang. It was the White House staffer, telling him that President Bush had signed the veto using his pen.
“I just hung up the phone and cried. It was all I could do to compose myself,” he says.
Derga says he never intended that this historical footnote be publicized, and he brushes aside concerns that he—and his pen—were pawns in what has become a heated political debate over the war in Iraq.
“I don’t care what anybody thinks,” Derga says. “This was something that had significance to me and to Dustin’s sacrifice.”
He points out that Democrats are not beyond showmanship themselves—for instance, by presenting President Bush with the Iraq spending legislation on the fourth anniversary of his now infamous “mission accomplished” speech aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln.
Derga still supports the war in Iraq and considers it the “morally correct thing to do.” He would, however, like to see the country united.
Should Congress and the president hammer out compromise legislation, then, says Derga, “I’d be honored if the president used the very same pen to sign that, too.”
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pmIf anyone NOT on the “Ignore List†for personal attacks such as “a$$wipe†has a question about any of my posts, please let me know.
Comment by Jake — May 2, 2007 @ 10:31 pm
Jake, have I told you lately where to stick you’re ignore list?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:00 pmBlue Girl, Red State, #29, you’re very good. Yes, the US could really do with another Truman Committee to investigate Halliburton, Bechtel, and Blackwater. And Roosevelt did use Lend-Lease to build up an efficient defence industry that meant America was prepared when Japan struck.
America is no longer ready if a third party struck. It’s preparedness has been squandered by military adventurism in Iraq. This isn’t America’s war. Oil can always be bought on the open market. The theory of controling resources is 19th Century imperial thinking. Honestly, Red China is supposedly America’s enemy and yet the US has complete rebuilt China’s infrasructure and sends them billions of dollars each year. It’s crazy. But the US does it. So why all the panic about who rules the nations with oil under their soil?
Six more months? Bush has had four years. Why are we cutting him so much slack. I thought he already said Mission Accomplished?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:04 pmJake, have I told you lately where to stick you’re ignore list?
Comment by Shane
I forgot where….tell him again. :-D
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:06 pmHanson is slipping into insanity.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:07 pmHey this is Terry’s son Tommy the Turtle – I think school stinks – where’s mikey?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:09 pmI forgot where….tell him again. :-D
Comment by Zooey — May 2, 2007 @ 11:06 pm
and again, and again, and……………..
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:15 pmHey this is Terry’s son Tommy the Turtle – I think school stinks – where’s mikey?
Comment by TommytheTurtle
Tommy, if you manage to summon that troll, I will be forced to recommend a severe grounding.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmGreat Jumpin’ Jehosephat…
Can Davis even read a calendar correctly? Is six months your standard Freidman Unit?
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmNeocon war-mongering mistake #1: Thinking they could convince themselves to give a shit about Iraq.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:18 pmNeocon war-mongering mistake #2: Thinking they could convince America to give a shit about Iraq.
Neocon war-mongering mistake #3: Donald Rumsfeld
Ignore List?
What a douche.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:20 pmI don’t know what this means, but I just got done watching Back to the Future II, so I know it’s not good.
Comment by Philly Boy
It means, if you follow the Tenet book that just came out, that we are repeating the same crap as before rehash of the rehash of the rehash, the blame game is shaped like a pretzel.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:20 pmdavid:
Did you see my question to you above: “How great is America that we can fight a war now WITHOUT 50% GNP going to the defense budget?”
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:21 pmHey zooey, this is Terry’s daughter Sammy, Tom was sent to bed….
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:24 pmHey zooey, this is Terry’s daughter Sammy, Tom was sent to bed….
Comment by SammytheTurtle
Rightly so…. :)
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:26 pmI’m being sent to bed too – good night Zooey….
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:33 pmOn a side note, It will be interesting to see how Republicans handle their “George W. Bush” problem at the “debate” tomorrow. Bush’s Iraq War will be the dog shit on the bottom of every candidate’s shoe. Everyone can smell it, but they’re all afraid to inspect their shoe bottoms, because they all know they stepped in it. Big time.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:35 pmAbove, I prefer to think of Dubya as the turd in the GOP swimming pool – everyone knows it is there, but no one wants to take responsibility for putting it there….
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:38 pmI’m being sent to bed too – good night Zooey….
Comment by SammytheTurtle
Goodnight, Sammy.
Glad you and Tommy made it off the beach. :)
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:44 pmJake the Joke, there are lies, damned lies, and statistics. I don’t have the percentages before me, perhaps you’d be kind enough to provide links. But I do know that Bush has managed to add more $$$ to the National Debt than all the Presidents since WWII combined.
It should be recalled that America was also emerging from a Great Depression in 1941. And Bush actually inherited budget surpluses and promptly squandered them on tax cuts for his pals.
I noted elsewhere that War is so expensive that Britain finally paid off that WWII Lend-Lease program last December. Yes, the poor Brits in hawk to America for 65 years.
I’m not sure I’d be proud of spending money on pure waste, death and destruction. I suppose Republicans get their kicks this way. You know, the way some children like to burn Barbie dolls or put firecrackers in the mouths of frogs. What is war good for? Absolutely NOTHING. It’s like breaking the dishes in a drunken rage: you then have to clean up the mess and then go out and buy new dishes. Better to be a happy drunk and sleep it off.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:50 pmAbove, I prefer to think of Dubya as the turd in the GOP swimming pool – everyone knows it is there, but no one wants to take responsibility for putting it there….
Comment by TerrytheTurtle — May 2, 2007 @ 11:38 pm
Oh, that’s why all the trolls are “independents”.
I see the little ones were ready to let loose on “he who shall not be named”. Sounded like fun to me.
May 2nd, 2007 at 11:59 pmShane – you have it right on…. funny how everyone likes a good fart and yet when someone has to own up….everyone looks around for a dog to blame… Independents – screw them. Pick a side you tossers…
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:07 amOh, forget to mention, Jake the Joke, wasn’t FDR fighting three fascist empires with large modern militaries? And wasn’t the war spread out across the Globe? Kinda like a World War?
Bush-bat is fighting two wars in a confined space. One is against a backward mountain country without roads and the other is against a quasi-developed country that was battered in a previous war with Bush’s pappy.
It seems to me that this should have been a cakewalk for America. But we know from the nasty gossip coming out of the Pentagon that Rumsfeld, Cheney and Bush wanted the whole war done on the cheap. Every detail of personnel and equipment was slashed to the bare bones. And you get what you pay for, Jake. DISASTER.
Afghanistan is LOST. Iraq is LOST. The big winner is IRAN. Yes, Jake, you’ve handed Iran the big door prize. Silly old you. If only the US had nailed OBL in the Tora Bora mountains. But NO, Junior had to avenge Pappy’s honor –even when Pappy said DON’T. And so Afganistan was left half done and only half the troops required were sent into Iraq and so that’s been botched. Good job, Jake. A true bargain. Good to see such conquering done on a shoestring. Bravo.
Too bad it’ll have to be all redone at union rates in ten years time. Penny wise, pound foolish.
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:08 am“How great is America that we can fight a war now WITHOUT 50% GNP going to the defense budget?”
Or, better still, how great is American that we can lose the damn war against a bunch of poorly-armed and poorly-organized insurgents because the Bush administration refused to ask for the necessary sacrifices, make the necessary plans, and commit the necessary resources?
And how great is the Bush administration for trying to fight a “MORE dire [war] than WWII” [gad, what an idiotic statement] on the cheap such that we cannot get the outcome he wanted?
And how great is the Bush administration for taking out a powerless country that did not have a nuke, while at the same time allowing another country to accelerate its nuclear program and acquire nuclear weapons, and a third country to continue its nuclear research program unabated because both countries know damn well that we cannot go after them with our military bogged down fighting a poorly-armed and poorly-organized bunch of insurgents in Iraq?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:26 am“Did you see my question to you above”
LOL… Yes, Chuckles, we can all see your silly questions. The fact that you don’t get answers is that your questions are so damned silly, not to mention hilarious, that no answers are required.
Still a drama queen, eh, Chuckles? Nothing has changed from those old days on calpundit.com and washingtonmonthly.com. Did you ever hear back from the Secret Service after you reported me to them, Chuckles? Or did they get just as much of a kick out of your silliness as I did?
May 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 amWorld War II was fought and won under “Liberalsâ€-FDR and Truman lead the American people.
Truman used nukes. Now THOSE were the ol’ Democrats.
No wonder so many Democrats have switched to the Republican party. The liberal Democrats of today have no resemblance to the Democrats of old.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:19 amThose Dems in WW II also firebombed Japan and Tokyo. That and the nukes. I mean, heck, maybe Hillary will unleash Hell on the Middle East in 2009, eh?
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 amTruman used nukes. Now THOSE were the ol’ Democrats. Comment by muckdog — May 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
Truman used nukes before we knew the longterm ecological and human toll. You/we have no idea if he would have made that decision if he knew then what we knew now.
No wonder so many Democrats have switched to the Republican party. Comment by muckdog — May 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
In recent years, most that switched did so because you became the bigot party – and picked up the southern democrats that still wore sheets for fun. Good riddance!
The liberal Democrats of today have no resemblance to the Democrats of old. Comment by muckdog — May 3, 2007 @ 1:19 am
B*llsh*t. Who do you think desegregated the military? Truman. Who do you think didn’t fight in WWII, until we were attacked? FDR, who do you think gave us Social Security? FDR
The conservative Republicans of today have no resemblance to the Republicans of old! In fact, modern Democrats are more like Teddy and Ike than you could dream of being!
And while we’re on the topic – use the *tubes* and do a google. More than 50% of Americans now say the ARE or LEAN Democratic – a figure that hasn’t been matched in over a generation.
You’ve lost the people losers – most of you are just too st*pid to know it. The ones that do know it, are the ones talking about a military coup – because you’re back to being the party that just *whines*. This time though, we have NO bluedogs to speak of to f*ck up our congressional votes! Get ready for a bumpy ride, you st*pid, st*pid little hack!
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:25 amThose Dems in WW II also firebombed Japan and Tokyo. That and the nukes. I mean, heck, maybe Hillary will unleash Hell on the Middle East in 2009, eh? Comment by muckdog — May 3, 2007 @ 1:24 am
Why are we at war with the middle east? You’re a f*cking moron.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:26 amI mean, heck, maybe Hillary will unleash Hell on the Middle East in 2009, eh? Comment by muckdog — May 3, 2007 @ 1:24 am
You mean like Bill did on Kosovo? See, the difference between our parties, is that we learn from our lessons. We don’t pick fights, we can’t win, and don’t have an exit strategy from! Unlike Dumbya.
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:27 amFunny how the trolls won’t touch the thread about Iraq being on the religious freedom watchlist.
I guess claiming the USCIRF is part of the vast left-wing conspiracy to make Pres Bush look bad is too much of a stretch even for the room temperature IQ trolls at ThinkProgress…
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:36 amWhen I’m stuck with a day that’s gray and lonely,
May 3rd, 2007 at 3:10 amI just pick up my chin, and grin, and say……
Ofcourse, it’s 100% reasonable to think that something you couldn’t do in 6 years will be possible in 6 months. People like this should be killed slowly.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:08 amWanna get out of Iraq? Send back the war finance bill without deadlines, but with all the Bush tax cuts for the rich rolled back until the war is amortized and apply the revenue to shoring up Social Security and Medicare. That sucking sound you will hear will be the CINC leading the troops out of the desert!
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:46 am‘Next six months’ my ass.
Does anyone have a list of the number of times the wingnutz have used the “next six months” crap?
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:08 am(to be sung):
All we are saying, is give war a chance…
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:47 amThis reminds me of the Henny Youngman joke in the movie “Goodfella’s”. The doctor tells the patient he has only 6 months to live, when the patient shows up several months later he tells the doctor he can’t pay his bill so the doctor gives him another 6 months :-)
May 3rd, 2007 at 9:37 amRight, the six months doesn’t actually start until tomorrow, or, no, not tomorrow, but next month… Well maybe in August. September is actually a good time to start the countdown. Actually I think that November might be better because winter will be starting here and folks will kind of hunker down for the season, so things will calm down over there. Because we’re hunkered down here. For the winter… Maybe it will be a NEW-KEW-LUR winter?
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 am#3 is a gd idiot
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:35 amWe keep saying that an end to this war is right around the corner; people should reallize by now that it’s not. Something must change, drastically. If withdrawal is not in order, then perhaps we should rethink our strategy. Poverty is one of the major contributors to terrorism; one which is within our power to fight, and win. The Millennium Goals outline a plan to cut severe poverty in half by 2015. Whatever happened to following that strategy?
May 3rd, 2007 at 1:57 pmLOL!!
May 4th, 2007 at 12:29 am