Tony Snow challenged on Bush hypocrisy
Tony Snow challenged on Bush hypocrisy
over an acceptable level of violence. This was the exchange at today’s White House press briefing:
QUESTION: In October of 2004 John Kerry said, “We have to get to the place where we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they’re a nuisance.” The president said he couldn’t disagree more. Cheney called this naive and dangerous, and part of the pre-9/11 mindset. So does the president now have a pre-9/11 mindset?
SNOW: No, the president does not have a pre-9/11 mindset. And the fact is — I’ll have to go back and take a look, but my recollection is that there was an attempt to, kind of, minimize some of the security challenges. But I don’t want to put words in Senator Kerry’s mouth without looking back at the 2004 debate.
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Holy crap!
You mean you guys actually recorded what we said way back then??
If we knew that, we’d have actually put some thought into our policies and statements……
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:41 pmYeah, better to just shut your trap before you get caught lying again Tony. I guess his time off has taught him that people are paying attention and he can’t just say whatever he wants.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:43 pmIf he had a pre 9/11 mindset he would allow Al Qaeda to attack us at will with no response. Like the left did in the 1990s.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:45 pmThere’s an old saying. “Better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and prove it.”
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:47 pmLike patrick just did?
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:49 pm“Comment by Patrick1 — May 3, 2007 @ ”
YAAAWWWWNNNNN!!!!!
Bush has a Pre-Prehistoric mindset!!!!
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:50 pmIf he had a pre 9/11 mindset he would allow Al Qaeda to attack us at will with no response. Like the left did in the 1990s.
Comment by Patrick1
I know in my heart I should simply ignore the troll, but: Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and his followers, who originally attacked the World Trade Center, were investigated, arrested, convicted and imprisoned in the 1990s. Compare this to the “success” the Bush administration has had catching bin Laden. Hmmmm.
STFU, pattyone
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:52 pmTony Snow: I really don’t want to cite any facts or realities without first being instructed as to what my spin will be. Next question about how all democrats are traitors please…
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:52 pmI remember the good old days when Fmr. Pres. Clinton protected us from terrorist attacks after the 1993 WTC bombing.
There was not one more foreign terrorist attack on US soil until AFTER Pres. Bush came into office and allowed terrorists to attack the US and kill US citizens.
Once Pres. Bush got into office, he just didn’t give one single thought to terrorism until after he allowed thousands of US citizens to die ON HIS WATCH!
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:52 pmhypocrites, liars – the whole lot of em!!
it’s the nature of politics – and the republicans are sure doing better than I ever thought i’d see (at being criminals that is!)
For more on the nature of lying politicians:
“Promises, Promises”
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:54 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/promises__promises
Ahhhhh….So nice to have the Snowman back on the job. More theatre of the absurd.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:55 pmNice to see you back, Snowjob.
I see it didn’t take long to avoid a direct question, but I guess ’sometimes a little obfuscation is necessary’, as the Chimperor stated about violence.
By the way, how’s your flute?
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:55 pmPatrick1:
Still waiting for you to grow a pair of balls and “Go Army”..
Coward.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:57 pmHey Patrick 1, Bush has a mind to set??? Wow that’s news to me.
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:58 pmBush did say the same thing in different words… you lose, Tony!
May 3rd, 2007 at 4:59 pmCould it be… is patrick1 part of the jake collective?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:00 pmPatrick1,
Where are those original WTC bombers? Where’s Tim McVeigh? Where’s Osama bin Laden?
Try again
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:00 pmgummich:
you forgot to tell the resident idiot that clinton caught, tried and jailed the terrists without destroying the constitution, our economy, our international reputation, etc. and he got a blowjob while doing it.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:01 pmSheik Omar Abdel Rahman and his followers, who originally attacked the World Trade Center, were investigated, arrested, convicted and imprisoned in the 1990s. Compare this to the “success†the Bush administration has had catching bin Laden. Hmmmm.
STFU, pattyone
Comment by gummitch
You mean Osama Bin Forgotten?
“I don’t know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don’t care. It’s not that important. It’s not our priority.”
- G.W. Bush, 3/13/02
Notice the date is almost exactly 6 months after 9/11
which made Bush’s statement on 9/13/2001 a total lie.
“The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him.”
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01
Major Lie.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:01 pm“No, the president does not have a pre-9/11 mindset.”
See, the reporter’s question implied that Bush has a mind, Snowjob is just responding correctly.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:03 pmPatrick1 has a valid point. During the 90’s, Islamic terrorists attacked American targets in the middle east. The death toll was relatively low. Clinton did arrest those who tried to blow up the WTC in ‘93, tried them in an open court and sent them down.
The record of Bush is much better. On his watch, a terrorist strike of unparalleled magnitude hit the US. Bush went after the Taliban, brought them down and “drained the swamp”. A very wise move if he hadn’t dropped the ball and decided not to invest in rebuilding Afghanistan. Then, he invaded a country which had less the sod all to do with 9/11 and radical Islam, turned world opinion against the US and fuelled the rise of radical Islam whilst simultaneously killing innocent civilians, driving a country into sectarian hell and getting US troops killed for no apparent reason.
Patrick1 is right. Clinton did nothing compared to Bush. Well done Bush!
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:04 pmFour attacks on the United States in the 1990s. War declared on the U.S. my Osama Bin Ladein 1995. Chance capture Osama Bin Laden denied because of “lack of evidence”. Planning for 9/11 began in 1998.
The left’s response? Blow up a tent and an aspirin factory. The result 3,000 dead Americans in a little over an hour.
And we are supposed to listen to the left when they speak about the fight against Islamo Fascism? Why?
They are as qualified to speak on the subject as Algore is on climate change.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:04 pmThe left saying anyone has a pre 9/11 mindset is not only hypocrisy but simply laughable.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:07 pmforget Tony Snow this is Jon Snow Channel 4 news Uk ( good reporting)
Channel 4 News reports on how the Kurdish area in the north is the next violent hotspot in the country’s civil war.
http://www.channel4.com/news/
press “Watch the report”
This is big trouble great report hope you enjoy
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:11 pmThat’s why ‘the left’ doesn’t say stupid things like that, the right does.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:11 pmComment by Patrick1
Your support for the “Commander Guy” is what is laughable.
What is your response to the blatent lie from Bush that I posted at #19, patty whacko? Have a coherent defense for your Failure in Chimp, Bush?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:12 pmThere is an excellent film on how the left fights Islamo Fascism. It is called the Path to 9/11.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pmPatrick1,
Clinton’s actions were the right ones.
bin Laden got what he wanted out of a reactionary pud like Bush. He legitimized the Al Qeada effort when he declared “war on terror”.
If he had hunted him and Al Qeada down, eradicated them through cooperation and good intel, that would have been the right move. IT would have kept bin Laden a marginal player in the world. It was this President who gave him, and his cause, legitimacy in the Arab world by attempting to blow it off the face of the earth due the actions of a total fringe element.
The corollary would have been if after the Oklahoma City bombing if Clinton would have invaded the south, and started picking off white christian males in a “war on domestic terror”.
To bad you don’t get it.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:13 pmParrot1 the rightwing talkingpoint machine.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:15 pmall that crap in post 22 has been refuted too many times to repeat again, you’ve proven you don’t listen or read, you regurgitate.
Where is binladen now? bush could have gotten him at tora bora, he let him escape. bush let all his relatives fly out of the US after 9-11, why? he could have killed Zacharihie during the initial invasion of Iraq but didn’t pull the trigger becuase bush wanted to say that AlQueda was in Iraq: the result is American Troops killed by ied’s. but you don’t care about them do you troll boy, you are scum.
I just love the Bush defenders and their rhetoric…..
The largest attack on American soil, and the most destruction to our country in our history but they think this is the greatest thing……
I would love to have a standoff with these cowards…….
They would run back to their basements and cower in the corner….
But when they don’t have to face someone, they sure are a tough guy!!!!
Yet when they have a chance to go defend what they support, they suddenly have excusses and other important things to do.
So Patrick1, when can we expect you to sign your name on the dotted line??
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:15 pmpath to 9-11 is just more rightwing propaganda and smear. only fools and tools believe it. which are you pattycakes?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 pmI think we should be fighting “Christo-facism” as well, don’t you Patrick1?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:17 pmOnce again, a valid point by Patrick1. 3,000 Americans are dead. What happened on 9/11 was a tragedy.
Two questions:
1) Who was President when 9/11 happened?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pm2) How many Iraqis are dead following the invasion of Iraq?
You’d think Tony’s approach to the edge, and his potential brush with death would re-align his priorities a bit.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:18 pmClinton like most liberals doesn’t believe the United States is worth defending. That explains his lack of action that allowed attack after attack.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 pmThere once was a troll named Patrick
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:19 pmWhose love for Boy George was just sick
He crawled under the podium
And got a load shot on him
Every single drop he did lick.
The al-Qaeda organization was allegedly responsible for the successful USS Cole bombing in October, 2000.
In response to these attacks, President Bill Clinton ordered a freeze on assets linked to bin Laden. Clinton also signed an executive order authorizing bin Laden’s arrest or assassination. In August 1998, the U.S. military launched an assassination attempt using cruise missiles. The attack failed to harm bin Laden but killed 19 other people.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:20 pmFrankly, since there is a strong possibility that Snow could die of his cancer, perhaps he should be answering to a higher boss. By telling the truth.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:21 pmHmm..lets see Patty1,
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:22 pmAn Illegel War started on ginned up “Intelligence”.
3000 + American War Dead
60,000 + Innocent Iraqis Dead
An Eviserated Constitution
Federal Debt out of control
World Opinion about the US in the Toilet
Where’s Bin Laden? Oh, thats right…never mind.
No end in sight to a War and an Occupation that is Illegel and Immoral.
A President (I use that title loosely for the Chimp) who ignores the will and desires of those who employ him: THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
Yeah Patty1, I’ll take Bill Clinton, warts and blow job and all that any day over the Incompetence and plain outright Contempt for the American People that is on display now.
IMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH/CHENEY CABAL MUST BE PUT BACK ON THE TABLE. NOW
He blew up a tent and an aspirin factory. And that was after three attacks and the planning for 9/11 had already began.
Tough guy that reprobate.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:25 pmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_laden
Hes probably DEAD – read it -
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:25 pm“60,000 + Innocent Iraqis Dead
Comment by Jim Wolf359 — May 3, 2007 @ 5:22 pm”
Your off by a factor of 10…..
It’s over 650,000 dead…….
But hey….. They are not Americans, so it’s OK…..
I despise the Repubs….
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:26 pmdon’t look down patty, but your fly is unzipped.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pmComment by Patrick1
All you can do is post crap and lies that you cannot even back up
You are ignoring the fact that Bush dropped the ball, instead of going after the supposed backer of the 9/11 attack, 6months after Bush stated he is not his priority.
You don’t defend Bush on that, because you cannot.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:27 pmGet back under the bridge. You’re as much a failure as a troll as you are in life. LMAO
Patrick….
What was your buttbuddy Bush’s response to 9/11 and Bin Laden? Attack the wrong country.
Maybe Clinton didn’t respond as forcefully as you neo-cons would have liked (although part of that was that the very same neo-cons were screaming ‘wag the dog’ every time Clinton tried to do something to protect the country), but at least he tried.
All Bush has done is make the terrorists stronger.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:28 pmRemoveBush, Yeah I think I used the “Official Death Toll”. God only knows how high it really is.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:30 pmIMPEACHMENT OF THE BUSH/CHENEY CABAL MUST BE PUT BACK ON THE TABLE. NOW
Comment by UKBristolDave — May 3, 2007 @ 5:04 pm
Well done Dave. I always did love that British dry wit and sense of irony.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:31 pmGeorge Bush
You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him
Blame Bush …. I think at this point he knew he was dead and this is way of saying “I dont care anymore” WHY because hes dead
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:38 pmCould it be that Tony is really Dana’s flip-flop fetching pooch in disguise?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:39 pmGood point AGAIN Patrick1. Clinton is a wimp and Bush is a tough guy. Starting pointless wars makes you a real man.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:40 pmComment by impeachcheneythenbush — May 3, 2007 @ 5:31 pm
Glad you liked it. Saying that, Bush is such an easy target it’s not really that much of a challenge anymore.
If you like the British sense of humour, keep your eye out for a TV series called “Life on Mars”. It’s genius
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:43 pmApparently a near fatal illness doesn’t stop one from being a liar.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:46 pm“And the fact is…” – Tony Snow
And the fact is…what? That you’ll have look back at the 2004 debate?
This is a fine example of how these people twist and distort. Begining sentences with “and the fact is” when in reality facts are the last thing they’re interested in.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:47 pmdon’t look down patty, but your fly is unzipped.
Comment by bob (not the hacker) — May 3, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Anyone wanna bet that when he read this, patty actually looked?
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:48 pmSo Bush is now espousing the words of John Kerry?? This is priceless, indeed! Guess when one is grasping at straws and there’s nothing left to spin, he reverts to using his enemy’s own words???
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:48 pmI seriously doubt whether G. Dubious remembers what he says friom one day to the next.
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:53 pmHe goes whining and wringing his hands to Karl pleading for his daily script.
And he probably avoids Unka Dick in the hallways ’cause he knows he’s gonna get yelled at again for being such a doofus………….
don’t look down patty, but your fly is unzipped.
Comment by bob (not the hacker) — May 3, 2007 @ 5:27 pm
Anyone wanna bet that when he read this, patty actually looked?
Comment by KRank
lmao
Yeah, that boy is dumber than a sock full of rocks
May 3rd, 2007 at 5:56 pmFrom the GOP Quotes of the Week:
“That would put a kid in harms way, more so than he or she already is.”
President Bush, on how withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq would put them in greater danger, April 27, 2007.
“If the standard of success is no car bombings or suicide bombings, we have just handed those who commit suicide bombings a huge victory.”
President Bush, April 25, 2007.
“So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him…I truly am not that concerned about him.”
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:03 pmPresident Bush, pn Osama Bin Laden, March 13, 2002.
If Bush actually had a mind to set, that would be news.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:06 pmI do still have to say I enjoy Patrick1’s inability to understand that fighting terrorism isn’t a military issue.
I suspect the man has watched too many Chuck Norris films.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:07 pmI could never support a President, like Clinton, who is smarter than I am. Bush is great.
- patsthick1
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:10 pmPatti 1″, you stupid scum sucking bottom feeder, you are a supreme idiot. Get out of your trailer and mow your lawn so your hill billy neighbors can see those fine cars parked on your lawn, you stinking piece of repukian sh*t, can you not see that your suck big time, I am sure everyone that knows you thinks you do, we sure know you suck.
Hating Repukian Idiots like Patti 1″ daily
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:17 pmThe msm will never learn to go around Tony Snow. Why ask a question if you know the answer? The msm sit on their overpaid butts, obediently gather for the morning gaggle, then ask these asinine questions that get lies for answers?
Boycott the gaggles and try to dig up some truth for once.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:31 pmTony Snow is terminal. He will be gone from this world by the time of the election, or at best be confined to his bed or some bed in a hospice. This is obscene, to have him in his condition, as a spokesperson for Bush. It is his choice, I guess. I mean you gotta go down fighting–for the murder of troops who are killed everyday and in support of a stupid man who lied to his own people to murder and kill and devastate and destroy a country that was no threat. I would think Snow would want to spend his last days, enjoying every moment with then people he loves, his family. Instead, he chooses to continue on supporting and defending a murderous criminal. Sigh–It’s his life and it’s his death.
May 3rd, 2007 at 6:57 pmI too, cannot comprehend Tony Snow’s motives… fame?
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:09 pmGoing out in a blaze of glory?
Anyone who has a bout with cancer needs to change lifestyles, sometimes drastically, in order to simply survive.
For Bush to allow Tony to continue, if he hasn’t even requested his continued service, perhaps indicates Bush’s willingness to play Snow for a tragic martyr figure.
Goodness knows Bush uses the martyr control drama often enough himself.
With all due respect: Tony, go home and get well. Your present role cannot be enhancing your chances for a complete recovery. If for no other reason, resign for yourself.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:21 pmI feel sorry for any asswipe dumb enough to take that job being the spokesman for the dumbest, worst president we’ve ever had. They have to wake up daily and try to explain what Dubya really meant when he said something stupid.
May 3rd, 2007 at 7:30 pmI don’t understand how Clinton could have supported an endless war against terrorism in the 1990’s. None of those attacks you mention are anywhere near the watershed moment 9/11 was, Patrick. Also, if he had decided to wage a war against this “islamo-facism” movement, I would believe that the position you take now would be staunchly opposite as he worked for the other team.
May 3rd, 2007 at 8:55 pmPersonally, I think Snow is an idiot and that Bush won election by positioning himself as an RNC puppet (twice), but Snow’s comment/reply indicates a positive turn of events to me.
Has he not essentially taken Kerry’s position? … even if he has simultaneously attempted to exile Kerry to a more remote position.
May 3rd, 2007 at 10:15 pmIf he had a pre 9/11 mindset he would allow Al Qaeda to attack us at will with no response. Like the left did in the 1990s.
Comment by Patrick1
I know in my heart I should simply ignore the troll, but: Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and his followers, who originally attacked the World Trade Center, were investigated, arrested, convicted and imprisoned in the 1990s. Compare this to the “success†the Bush administration has had catching bin Laden. Hmmmm.
STFU, pattyone
Comment by gummitch — May 3, 2007 @ 4:52 pm
AND, after the 1st WTC attack, that occurred 3 months after President Clinton took office, Bill did not try and blame Bush Sr., unlike how sissyboy Bush, Jr. tried to blame Clinton. Lil George was asleep on watch and is simply a miserable failure.
Subvet
May 4th, 2007 at 9:29 amTony Snow is facing death, just look at him. And still he is up there spinning. Does he believe what he is saying or is he now trying desperately to provide as much money as possible for his family to live on after he is gone? Will the truth win out over Republican talking points or does he believe the Republican talking points are the truth?
I am going to watch him, a republican facing his mortality – what is going on inside him, any soul searching ya think?
May 4th, 2007 at 9:33 amTony Snow rocks! The man is very intelligent and a great refuter of liberal arguments–that’s why he’s attacked so vehemently.
May 4th, 2007 at 11:14 amThe truth will set you free:
After the Feb. 1993 WTC bombing, there was not one more foreign terrorist attack on US soil until AFTER Pres. Bush came into office and allowed terrorists to attack the US and kill US citizens.
Pres. Bush is a failure as a President, and he failed the US by allowing US citizens to die on American soil.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:02 pm