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	<title>Comments on: Perle: &#8216;I Never Believed Saddam Was Responsible For 9/11&#8242;</title>
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		<title>By: Squidbilly</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-5/#comment-3790313</link>
		<dc:creator>Squidbilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 20:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe he never said Iraq was involved in 9/11 but the guy had a obsession of getting rid of Saddam.  

From PNAC a few letters signed by Perle: 

http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm
http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqletter1998.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe he never said Iraq was involved in 9/11 but the guy had a obsession of getting rid of Saddam.  </p>
<p>From PNAC a few letters signed by Perle: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/Bushletter.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqletter1998.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqletter1998.htm</a><a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3790313', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-5/#comment-3788771</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>treasonous neo-cons need to locked up and their puppets impeached</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>treasonous neo-cons need to locked up and their puppets impeached<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788771', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kilo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-5/#comment-3788770</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 13:13:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;18 months - does that mean your prison sentence wonâ€™t be over yet?
Comment by the republic of stupidity â€” May 5, 2007 @ 4:41 pm&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We were talking about the invasion supported by a majority of all political parties. That won&#039;t be over by then. 

What you&#039;ve created there won&#039;t end in 18 years either. So keep that smug shit up pal. 

Who knows, maybe voting out people other than the Joint Chiefs, torture happy troops and CIA will somehow change the world&#039;s opinion of the American population who made Bush a 2 term president and cheered on the invasion of Iraq.

Either way it&#039;s going to be a long wait for you to find out that distinctions between liberals and conservatives ends at your borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>18 months &#8211; does that mean your prison sentence wonâ€™t be over yet?<br />
Comment by the republic of stupidity â€” May 5, 2007 @ 4:41 pm</p></blockquote>
<p>We were talking about the invasion supported by a majority of all political parties. That won&#8217;t be over by then. </p>
<p>What you&#8217;ve created there won&#8217;t end in 18 years either. So keep that smug shit up pal. </p>
<p>Who knows, maybe voting out people other than the Joint Chiefs, torture happy troops and CIA will somehow change the world&#8217;s opinion of the American population who made Bush a 2 term president and cheered on the invasion of Iraq.</p>
<p>Either way it&#8217;s going to be a long wait for you to find out that distinctions between liberals and conservatives ends at your borders.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788770', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: David O.</title>
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		<dc:creator>David O.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 02:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the &quot;noble lie&quot;. That, folks, among other things, is why we refer to the sh*t-sack, lying, war-mongering, chickenhawk, neocon SCUM, as _lying_ NeoCon SCUM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the &#8220;noble lie&#8221;. That, folks, among other things, is why we refer to the sh*t-sack, lying, war-mongering, chickenhawk, neocon SCUM, as _lying_ NeoCon SCUM.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788680', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Merlin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Merlin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Valiant sweetie,

Have you no pride in your work? In a job well done? You are certainly not impressing me with all this shoddy work. Now I don&#039;t mean to complain, so don&#039;t take me wrong here, I&#039;m just trying to help. I just hate to see you do this to yourself, yet here you go again putting your foot in your mouth again. Don&#039;t you believe me when I say the Listerine won&#039;t help the bad breath from that exercise? Sigh... 

You do want to do it right, don&#039;t you? Well then, listen to Lora! We are really trying to be helpful here. Like pointing out the errors in your posts. If you went elsewhere and said stuff like this you would be laughed at worse than you are about your comb over. For instance, you can be off a little once in a while but, 10 years! Good grief, this simply shows all the &quot;progs&quot; here that you are blowing smoke. You know, using the &quot;cliff notes&quot; of what ever subject you bring up. Now, I&#039;m not knocking Cliff Notes, mind you, but you could at least be sure your handlers at the troll locker room keep you up to snuff on issues. Using those cheap knockoffs that were hastily put together without any proof reading just to save money is not the best course. If you must use Cliff Notes, at least get the real thing. Sheesh, don&#039;t be so cheep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Valiant sweetie,</p>
<p>Have you no pride in your work? In a job well done? You are certainly not impressing me with all this shoddy work. Now I don&#8217;t mean to complain, so don&#8217;t take me wrong here, I&#8217;m just trying to help. I just hate to see you do this to yourself, yet here you go again putting your foot in your mouth again. Don&#8217;t you believe me when I say the Listerine won&#8217;t help the bad breath from that exercise? Sigh&#8230; </p>
<p>You do want to do it right, don&#8217;t you? Well then, listen to Lora! We are really trying to be helpful here. Like pointing out the errors in your posts. If you went elsewhere and said stuff like this you would be laughed at worse than you are about your comb over. For instance, you can be off a little once in a while but, 10 years! Good grief, this simply shows all the &#8220;progs&#8221; here that you are blowing smoke. You know, using the &#8220;cliff notes&#8221; of what ever subject you bring up. Now, I&#8217;m not knocking Cliff Notes, mind you, but you could at least be sure your handlers at the troll locker room keep you up to snuff on issues. Using those cheap knockoffs that were hastily put together without any proof reading just to save money is not the best course. If you must use Cliff Notes, at least get the real thing. Sheesh, don&#8217;t be so cheep.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788638', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-5/#comment-3788624</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are not being told the truth regarding the evidence of September 11th by our government in the U.S.. I would hope you would investigate some of the innacurate claims of the 9/11 commision report for yourself.

I have been researching 9/11 for over four years and there are serious unanswered questions from that day. Although, most in the mainstream media and lots of others call anyone that questions the official story a nut job, crazy or unpatriotic I appreciate that you would involve yourself in this delicate subject. People are attacked for proposing alternative theories without discussing the subject matter of what the person is proposing.  see ad hominem logical arguement. 

There are many important unanswered questions from 9/11, I will propose 5. I hope you investigate these for yourself. 

1) Never in the history of steel structures has a building collapsed from fire yet 3 did on 9/11; WTC tower 1,2 &amp; 7. all three buildings came down at free fall speed with no resistance, tower 7 was never hit by an airplane yet came down symetrically in seven seconds? Additionally odd, tower 2 fell before tower 1 although tower 1 was hit first and tower 2 was hit with a glancing blow. The explosion/ collapse in tower 2 started above where the plane hit the tower? Jet fuel burns at only about 1500 Degrees Fahrenheit in the open air and structural steel does not melt or even get significantly weakened until more than a thousand degrees hotter with a melting point of near 3300 degrees F. 

2) There is no large plane wreckage in front of the Pentagon from the 757 that hit it. Taking from the official story, the 757 that hit the pentagon flew over a highway, parallel and 15 to 20 feet above the ground and impacted the pentagon between the 1st and 2nd floor. (official story) The airplane did not leave any markings or large debris (ex wings) on the front of the pentagon. the 757 suppossedly was sucked into a 16ft by 24ft hole, before the ceiling collapsed a 1/2 hour later, and incinerated. how did this plane hit only 15 ft above the ground after descending so rapidly without ever hitting the ground and flown by an amateur pilot? The 3 slides the pentagon released to the public shows a small shaped device flying horizontally, very low to the ground and leaving a small smoke trail. Just recently Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) in regards to the flight data recovered from Flight 77. The data provided by the NTSB contradicts the flight path given by the 9/11 commissio report. The flight data that the NTSB provided shows the 757 that hit the pentagon at 300 feet above the highway and could not of clipped the light poles and subsequently struck the pentagon between the first and second floor. Please see the article here- http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_24288.shtml . How come the Pentagon has not released video from the cameras mounted on the roof? lastly, after travelling through three rings of the Pentagon, the plane or whatever it was left a small circular exit hole in the third ring. 

3. All four hijacked planes flew for an average of 40 minutes, 1 hour 50 minutes total, without any fighter jet intercept over NY and Washington. As you are aware, NY and Washington are some of the most protected airspace in the world. 

4. Where is the plane wreckage from the plane crash in Shanksville, PA? in pictures and video all you see is a small ditch with no fires, plane debris, seats, bodies, etc.? 

5. How was the Patriot Act and the War on Terror so quickly developed after 9/11? Was this new program a reaction to 9/11 or something that was worked on before September 11th and just conveniently ready for a terrorist attack? 

9/11 was an inside job, a false flag operation. Sadly, the sophistication of this operation points more towards state sponsored terrorism than a small group of bandits inside a cave. I continue to hear government and military officials saying we are fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq and globally. Does this mean as the lone superpower we suppossedly were attacked by this rag tag group on September 11th and have been fighting them for the last 6 years without &#039;mission accomplished&#039;? How often have our leaders evoked the memory of 9/11 to rally our people for certain causes (i.e. Iraq)? 

fight on in peace. I hope you decide to investigate the truth of 9/11 for yourself. 

Namaste 
Shawn Cooper 

PS For a summary and the best documentary of 9/11 I recommend watching Loose Change 2. You can watch it for free here- 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&amp;q=loose+change+2&amp;hl=en 

or visit www.wtc7.net or www.st911.org and start your own research... 

Lastly, alot of the public does not know that Rosie O&#039;Donnell and Charlie Sheen are not the only ones questionning the official story of 9/11. Hundreds of scholars, public representatives, high ranking officials and survivors are questionning it as well. please see www.patriotsquestion911.com for more on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are not being told the truth regarding the evidence of September 11th by our government in the U.S.. I would hope you would investigate some of the innacurate claims of the 9/11 commision report for yourself.</p>
<p>I have been researching 9/11 for over four years and there are serious unanswered questions from that day. Although, most in the mainstream media and lots of others call anyone that questions the official story a nut job, crazy or unpatriotic I appreciate that you would involve yourself in this delicate subject. People are attacked for proposing alternative theories without discussing the subject matter of what the person is proposing.  see ad hominem logical arguement. </p>
<p>There are many important unanswered questions from 9/11, I will propose 5. I hope you investigate these for yourself. </p>
<p>1) Never in the history of steel structures has a building collapsed from fire yet 3 did on 9/11; WTC tower 1,2 &amp; 7. all three buildings came down at free fall speed with no resistance, tower 7 was never hit by an airplane yet came down symetrically in seven seconds? Additionally odd, tower 2 fell before tower 1 although tower 1 was hit first and tower 2 was hit with a glancing blow. The explosion/ collapse in tower 2 started above where the plane hit the tower? Jet fuel burns at only about 1500 Degrees Fahrenheit in the open air and structural steel does not melt or even get significantly weakened until more than a thousand degrees hotter with a melting point of near 3300 degrees F. </p>
<p>2) There is no large plane wreckage in front of the Pentagon from the 757 that hit it. Taking from the official story, the 757 that hit the pentagon flew over a highway, parallel and 15 to 20 feet above the ground and impacted the pentagon between the 1st and 2nd floor. (official story) The airplane did not leave any markings or large debris (ex wings) on the front of the pentagon. the 757 suppossedly was sucked into a 16ft by 24ft hole, before the ceiling collapsed a 1/2 hour later, and incinerated. how did this plane hit only 15 ft above the ground after descending so rapidly without ever hitting the ground and flown by an amateur pilot? The 3 slides the pentagon released to the public shows a small shaped device flying horizontally, very low to the ground and leaving a small smoke trail. Just recently Pilots for 9/11 Truth, an international organization of pilots and aviation professionals, petitioned the National Transportation and Safety Board (NTSB) in regards to the flight data recovered from Flight 77. The data provided by the NTSB contradicts the flight path given by the 9/11 commissio report. The flight data that the NTSB provided shows the 757 that hit the pentagon at 300 feet above the highway and could not of clipped the light poles and subsequently struck the pentagon between the first and second floor. Please see the article here- <a href="http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_24288.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/article_24288.shtml</a> . How come the Pentagon has not released video from the cameras mounted on the roof? lastly, after travelling through three rings of the Pentagon, the plane or whatever it was left a small circular exit hole in the third ring. </p>
<p>3. All four hijacked planes flew for an average of 40 minutes, 1 hour 50 minutes total, without any fighter jet intercept over NY and Washington. As you are aware, NY and Washington are some of the most protected airspace in the world. </p>
<p>4. Where is the plane wreckage from the plane crash in Shanksville, PA? in pictures and video all you see is a small ditch with no fires, plane debris, seats, bodies, etc.? </p>
<p>5. How was the Patriot Act and the War on Terror so quickly developed after 9/11? Was this new program a reaction to 9/11 or something that was worked on before September 11th and just conveniently ready for a terrorist attack? </p>
<p>9/11 was an inside job, a false flag operation. Sadly, the sophistication of this operation points more towards state sponsored terrorism than a small group of bandits inside a cave. I continue to hear government and military officials saying we are fighting Al Qaeda in Iraq and globally. Does this mean as the lone superpower we suppossedly were attacked by this rag tag group on September 11th and have been fighting them for the last 6 years without &#8216;mission accomplished&#8217;? How often have our leaders evoked the memory of 9/11 to rally our people for certain causes (i.e. Iraq)? </p>
<p>fight on in peace. I hope you decide to investigate the truth of 9/11 for yourself. </p>
<p>Namaste<br />
Shawn Cooper </p>
<p>PS For a summary and the best documentary of 9/11 I recommend watching Loose Change 2. You can watch it for free here- </p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&amp;q=loose+change+2&amp;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7866929448192753501&amp;q=loose+change+2&amp;hl=en</a> </p>
<p>or visit <a href="http://www.wtc7.net" rel="nofollow">http://www.wtc7.net</a> or <a href="http://www.st911.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.st911.org</a> and start your own research&#8230; </p>
<p>Lastly, alot of the public does not know that Rosie O&#8217;Donnell and Charlie Sheen are not the only ones questionning the official story of 9/11. Hundreds of scholars, public representatives, high ranking officials and survivors are questionning it as well. please see <a href="http://www.patriotsquestion911.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.patriotsquestion911.com</a> for more on this.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788624', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Lora</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 00:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and recovering gambling addict compiled the book to help teach about different virtues - he did not write it. I find it sadly telling the hypocrites who slam Bennett for his gambling addiction have all the forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children - or murder the children of others.....
so many of my hedonist friends here at TP take that criticism personally, as good Progs do. 
Comments by Vile Venus

The &quot;Book of Virtues&quot; was published in 1993; it became known in 2003, that Bennett had lost millions in gambling.  You&#039;re only a decade off, Mighty Hypocrite.  BTW, I don&#039;t know any prog/liberal who has all the&quot; forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children - or murder the children of others.&quot;  You&#039;re way off on that one, too .  
I can&#039;t speak for the others here, but I am definitely not a hedonist, either.  Too bad your mythical generalizations are just that--a myth, a lie.  Maybe you should ask your good friends like Tobias, Rev. Ted, Mark Foley, Swaggert, and Jim Bakker about hedonism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and recovering gambling addict compiled the book to help teach about different virtues &#8211; he did not write it. I find it sadly telling the hypocrites who slam Bennett for his gambling addiction have all the forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children &#8211; or murder the children of others&#8230;..<br />
so many of my hedonist friends here at TP take that criticism personally, as good Progs do.<br />
Comments by Vile Venus</p>
<p>The &#8220;Book of Virtues&#8221; was published in 1993; it became known in 2003, that Bennett had lost millions in gambling.  You&#8217;re only a decade off, Mighty Hypocrite.  BTW, I don&#8217;t know any prog/liberal who has all the&#8221; forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children &#8211; or murder the children of others.&#8221;  You&#8217;re way off on that one, too .<br />
I can&#8217;t speak for the others here, but I am definitely not a hedonist, either.  Too bad your mythical generalizations are just that&#8211;a myth, a lie.  Maybe you should ask your good friends like Tobias, Rev. Ted, Mark Foley, Swaggert, and Jim Bakker about hedonism.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788585', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Mr. President</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. President</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 22:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m kinda flattered to be honored with a &quot;noble lie&quot;. Imagine if we lived in a country that did not have a noble purpose in their lying to us. For example, if we were told in elementary school to die in the name of allah so that we may become martyrs who inspire future generations to do the same. The real noble lie is religion itself, namely that of the ancient Greeks, for Leo took the idea from Plato&#039;s Politeia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m kinda flattered to be honored with a &#8220;noble lie&#8221;. Imagine if we lived in a country that did not have a noble purpose in their lying to us. For example, if we were told in elementary school to die in the name of allah so that we may become martyrs who inspire future generations to do the same. The real noble lie is religion itself, namely that of the ancient Greeks, for Leo took the idea from Plato&#8217;s Politeia.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788516', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-5/#comment-3788455</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description># 5 - BluePUP - I am not a Straussian but I have found that those who criticize Strauss and stupidly compare him to Nazis)  dislike his criticism of liberal hedonism......so many of my hedonist friends here at TP take that criticism personally, as good Progs do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p># 5 &#8211; BluePUP &#8211; I am not a Straussian but I have found that those who criticize Strauss and stupidly compare him to Nazis)  dislike his criticism of liberal hedonism&#8230;&#8230;so many of my hedonist friends here at TP take that criticism personally, as good Progs do.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788455', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Joel Lemieux</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Lemieux</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was very fortunate to have a wise father who back in the 1940&#039;s coached me to &quot;Always Consider The Source&quot; and to &quot;Never Get In A Pissin Contest With A Skunk&quot;...  What we have here is one (zionist) skunk interviewing another...  and neither thinks they don&#039;t smell...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was very fortunate to have a wise father who back in the 1940&#8217;s coached me to &#8220;Always Consider The Source&#8221; and to &#8220;Never Get In A Pissin Contest With A Skunk&#8221;&#8230;  What we have here is one (zionist) skunk interviewing another&#8230;  and neither thinks they don&#8217;t smell&#8230;<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788448', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: valiant venus</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-3788443</link>
		<dc:creator>valiant venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 21:41:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#90 - #80â€¦.. princess valiantâ€¦â€¦
Pardon me for butting in, but who is the author of your â€œBook of Virtuesâ€?
Hate betray my ignorance, but Iâ€™ve not heard of it beforeâ€¦.
Comment by Raven 

Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and recovering gambling addict compiled the book to help teach about different virtues - he did not write it. I find it sadly telling the hypocrites who slam Bennett for his gambling addiction have all the forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children - or murder the children of others.  But of curse, I&#039;ve never met perfect people - not even perfect Progs.

This book helps illustrate honesty, perserverance, courage, faith etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#90 &#8211; #80â€¦.. princess valiantâ€¦â€¦<br />
Pardon me for butting in, but who is the author of your â€œBook of Virtuesâ€?<br />
Hate betray my ignorance, but Iâ€™ve not heard of it beforeâ€¦.<br />
Comment by Raven </p>
<p>Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and recovering gambling addict compiled the book to help teach about different virtues &#8211; he did not write it. I find it sadly telling the hypocrites who slam Bennett for his gambling addiction have all the forgiveness and patience in the world for those who physically abuse their children &#8211; or murder the children of others.  But of curse, I&#8217;ve never met perfect people &#8211; not even perfect Progs.</p>
<p>This book helps illustrate honesty, perserverance, courage, faith etc.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788443', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: the republic of stupidity</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-3788396</link>
		<dc:creator>the republic of stupidity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 20:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>orry, you need to make bookings with me 2 years in advance. 18 months isnâ€™t anywhere near enough notice.

Comment by Kilo

18 months - does that mean your prison sentence won&#039;t be over yet?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>orry, you need to make bookings with me 2 years in advance. 18 months isnâ€™t anywhere near enough notice.</p>
<p>Comment by Kilo</p>
<p>18 months &#8211; does that mean your prison sentence won&#8217;t be over yet?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788396', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Douglas G.</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-3788153</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They all lie!

&quot;Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.&quot;
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

&quot;[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq&#039;s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.&quot;
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998

&quot;He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.&quot;
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

&quot;We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.&quot;
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

&quot;If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq&#039;s weapons of mass destruction program.&quot;
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

&quot;One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.&quot;
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They all lie!</p>
<p>&#8220;Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process.&#8221;<br />
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq&#8217;s refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs.&#8221;<br />
Letter to President Clinton.<br />
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.&#8221;<br />
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction.&#8221;<br />
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq&#8217;s weapons of mass destruction program.&#8221;<br />
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998</p>
<p>&#8220;One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line.&#8221;<br />
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3788153', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Karim</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-3787989</link>
		<dc:creator>Karim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This man has no shame. Why didn&#039;t King call his motherfucker out on his bullshit?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This man has no shame. Why didn&#8217;t King call his motherfucker out on his bullshit?<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787989', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kate Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kate Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 15:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liar, Liar, pants on fire!  Perle has told so many lies and now he expects us to believe him.  I DON&quot;T THINK SO!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Liar, Liar, pants on fire!  Perle has told so many lies and now he expects us to believe him.  I DON&#8221;T THINK SO!<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787965', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: theswan</title>
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		<dc:creator>theswan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 12:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The little boy who told too many lies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The little boy who told too many lies.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787886', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Kilo</title>
		<link>http://thinkprogress.org/2007/05/04/perle-lies/comment-page-4/#comment-3787857</link>
		<dc:creator>Kilo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 07:55:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Oh, ok, Kilo, so you donâ€™t care what people think now after more information has come out?
Comment by JPark â€” May 4, 2007 @ 11:26 pm&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Well no, but that&#039;s another matter entirely.
I was quoting a guy talking about how Niger intel was debunked before the invasion. Either that&#039;s wrong or the support was for a different reason. 

What do you think this quote in the TP article above is talking about ? Who&#039;s needs do you think he is talking about satisfying ?
&lt;i&gt;Over the telephone on Sept. 17, Perle told this column that there were few good targets in Afghanistan but many in Iraq.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;They were lied to by your precious leader Bush, idiot.
Comment by VerbalKint â€” May 5, 2007 @ 12:06 am&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No, he&#039;d be your 2-term elected leader, not mine.
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hey Kilo, how about coming here on November 5, 2008 to discuss the only poll that matters?
Comment by VerbalKint â€” May 5, 2007 @ 12:09 am&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sorry, you need to make bookings with me 2 years in advance. 18 months isn&#039;t anywhere near enough notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Oh, ok, Kilo, so you donâ€™t care what people think now after more information has come out?<br />
Comment by JPark â€” May 4, 2007 @ 11:26 pm</p></blockquote>
<p>Well no, but that&#8217;s another matter entirely.<br />
I was quoting a guy talking about how Niger intel was debunked before the invasion. Either that&#8217;s wrong or the support was for a different reason. </p>
<p>What do you think this quote in the TP article above is talking about ? Who&#8217;s needs do you think he is talking about satisfying ?<br />
<i>Over the telephone on Sept. 17, Perle told this column that there were few good targets in Afghanistan but many in Iraq.</i></p>
<blockquote><p>They were lied to by your precious leader Bush, idiot.<br />
Comment by VerbalKint â€” May 5, 2007 @ 12:06 am</p></blockquote>
<p>No, he&#8217;d be your 2-term elected leader, not mine.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hey Kilo, how about coming here on November 5, 2008 to discuss the only poll that matters?<br />
Comment by VerbalKint â€” May 5, 2007 @ 12:09 am</p></blockquote>
<p>Sorry, you need to make bookings with me 2 years in advance. 18 months isn&#8217;t anywhere near enough notice.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787857', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: Gregor Samsa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gregor Samsa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Comment by JPark â€” May 5, 2007 @ 1:25 am&lt;/i&gt;

Thanks JPark, you actually made me scroll up in the comments to find your post.  And, yes, it is what you were saying. 

Also, interesting that the Perle quotes picked by ThinkProgress do not even mention 9/11. All Perle is saying is that Iraq should be invaded; the tacit implication is that 9/11 is merely incidental. 

I thought it was odd at the time that the warmongers wouldn&#039;t come out and say that there was indeed a connection between Hussein, AlQaeda, and 9/11. All they did was insinuate it.  

In my opinion, there is really no other way to read their statements: They knew Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, but were very comfortable peddling the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Comment by JPark â€” May 5, 2007 @ 1:25 am</i></p>
<p>Thanks JPark, you actually made me scroll up in the comments to find your post.  And, yes, it is what you were saying. </p>
<p>Also, interesting that the Perle quotes picked by ThinkProgress do not even mention 9/11. All Perle is saying is that Iraq should be invaded; the tacit implication is that 9/11 is merely incidental. </p>
<p>I thought it was odd at the time that the warmongers wouldn&#8217;t come out and say that there was indeed a connection between Hussein, AlQaeda, and 9/11. All they did was insinuate it.  </p>
<p>In my opinion, there is really no other way to read their statements: They knew Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11, but were very comfortable peddling the story.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787829', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: republicanSScareme</title>
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		<dc:creator>republicanSScareme</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:26:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word:

Mossad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word:</p>
<p>Mossad.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787823', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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		<title>By: JPark</title>
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		<dc:creator>JPark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2007 05:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregor, that is exactly what I was saying.  You said it so much better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregor, that is exactly what I was saying.  You said it so much better.<a href="javascript:void(0)" title=""  onmouseover="window.status=''; return true" onmouseout="window.status=''; return true" onclick="ddrc_popup('http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/plugins/dd-report-comments/report.php?c=3787822', 400, 400)"></a></p>
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