Rice Attacks Pelosi For Syria Trip Hours After Meeting With Syrians
Rice Attacks Pelosi For Syria Trip Hours After Meeting With Syrians
Last night, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice again belittled Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) for traveling to Syria, hours after she held high-level talks with Syria’s foreign minister.
In an interview with CNN, Rice attacked Pelosi’s trip as a photo-op. She claimed Pelosi had only gone to Damascus “to have those pictures” and to suggest a relationship “that doesn’t exist with Syria.”
It’s a familiar talking-point: in the midst of this trumped up “controversy,” White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said Pelosi was only traveling to “have a photo opportunity and have tea” with Syria’s prime minister, and President Bush said “photo opportunities and/or meetings” send “mixed messages.”
Watch it:
Pelosi’s substantive talks with the Syrians should not be derided and reduced to a photo-op, as she “reinforced the administration’s policies” and drove the same message as Rice did with respect to Iraq — “insisting that [the Syrian] government block militants seeking to cross into Iraq and join insurgents there.” Unfortunately, Rice still finds a way to target Pelosi while failing to even mention the five Republicans who have visited Syria in the past year.
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Rice has a right to criticize the person that's doing her job for her... I guess.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:20 pmhey rice, STFU.
thanks, usa
May 4th, 2007 at 2:21 pmShe's only pissed 'cause she got smacked down big-time by the Iranians
May 4th, 2007 at 2:21 pmhell i dont blame the iranian for leaving dinner, who could eat with that ugly pissed off looking woman sitting in front of them.... i'd lose my appetite too!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:22 pmAnd, by the way, CNN, that is a disgustingly imperialistic and war-mongering caption....
May 4th, 2007 at 2:23 pmAnd what did Rice accomplish? She didn't even know how to respond to the Iranians when she ran into them (apparently saying "Hello" amounted to a "meeting").
WORST SECRETARY OF STATE EVER!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:23 pmRice is only pissed because Pelosi got more photo-ops.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:25 pmWhat a bitch.
Hey Condi, what were you wearing on your head? Pics?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:25 pmHasn't Condi been arrested?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:25 pm"Mixed messages."
From an incoherent administration, how could foreign governments get anything but mixed messages? It's not Pelosi's fault that Bush's foreign policy maven can't muster the political courage to talk with those we disagree with.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:28 pmWhat, no photos of Condi with head scarf?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:29 pmCondi's right.
Besides, how can you present clear and self-consistent foreign policy front when unauthorized individuals like Pelosi run interference. Pelosi didn't discuss her trip with State Department. Who knows what she said and how that affects the official SD initiatives.
The fact is that she just went solo for a photo-op.
Her job is banging the gavel in Congress and addressing domestic legislative issues - not foreign policy. That belongs to the State Department and WH.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:29 pmSounds like she need to be 'fed' by lil georgie.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:29 pmNow here's a good case for a woman wearing a shroud or burka...Her entire body should be draped with holes for her dead eyes to look out...I would leave the dinner to and I'm a big fan of a free meal...Blessings
May 4th, 2007 at 2:30 pmIt is just incredible that someone with Rice's apparent intelligence is so drugged by Bushco and the neocon party line that she mindlessly and continually spews their lies, talking points and party line. Doesn't she get it? Her masters' are psychotics and treasonous sociopaths who are in their own world and have absolutely no credibility. Don't ask for whom the bell tolls, neocon scum, it tolls for thee!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:30 pmwhat a surprise - politicians being hypocrites!!
Does it ever end? All this bickering about syria is really nothing more than a distraction - from the fact that the US continually meddles in the affairs of other countries....
Only when we have a foreign policy of peace - non-intervention and non-aggression, will we have security and prosperity.
Some reading:
"A Foreign Policy for America"
May 4th, 2007 at 2:30 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/a_foreign_policy_for_america
I'd like to see Pelosi knock this gap-tooth bit-ch out.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:30 pmRice :(.......Relationship that doesn't exist with Syria)...!!!, then why do we have a Syrian embassy in Washington and US embassy in Damascus..?!!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:31 pmThey don't let you pick your shoes in prison, Condi.
Just thought you should know that.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pmBesides, how can you present clear and self-consistent foreign policy front when unauthorized individuals like Pelosi run interference. Pelosi didn’t discuss her trip with State Department. Who knows what she said and how that affects the official SD initiatives.
The fact is that she just went solo for a photo-op.
Her job is banging the gavel in Congress and addressing domestic legislative issues - not foreign policy. That belongs to the State Department and WH.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
What about the fact that on that Pelosi trip there were 5 Republicans?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pm"Nobody ever called me to say, 'Why are you going to Syria with those people?'"
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pmRep. David Hobson (R-OH), responding to Republicans only criticizing Nancy Pelosi and Democratic members of entourage traveling to Damascus, April 24, 2007.
Maybe Pelosi's trip WAS merely a photo op. Did Pelosi bring a fake, plastic Thanksgiving turkey to present to our troops? Oh . . . wait . . . that was Moron Boy's visit to Iraq. Now THAT'S how you roll on a photo op!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pmApparently this administration does not understand the meaning of the word hypocrisy. Just in case they need to refresh their memory:
–noun, plural -sies.
1. a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2. a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
3. an act or instance of hypocrisy.
from http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=2&q=Hypocrisy
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pm#12 - MAF54
I'll wait to hear from the Syrians.
I've got a $1 that says Speaker Pelosi accomplished more than Rice.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:34 pmComment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
I see that the pedophile is here.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:35 pmCondy is SUCH a tool!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:36 pm"Besides, how can you present clear and self-consistent foreign policy front when unauthorized individuals like Pelosi run interference. Pelosi didn’t discuss her trip with State Department. Who knows what she said and how that affects the official SD initiatives.
The fact is that she just went solo for a photo-op.
Her job is banging the gavel in Congress and addressing domestic legislative issues - not foreign policy. That belongs to the State Department and WH.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:29 pm"
Jake, perhaps you should do some research??????
She talked and presented her Itenerary with the State Dept. and they had no issue with it.
Damn, trolls........ At least Rove could hire some semi-intelligent people for this rather than people who just read off cue cards.....
May 4th, 2007 at 2:36 pmWhen you have no plan of your own the only thing left to do is attack those who do act.
Pathetic.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:36 pmRice is pissed because Pelosi only had to cover her head and they asked Condi to cover her face. Ouch.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pmMAF54 is SUCH a tool!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:38 pm#20: That's different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don't see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:39 pmPelosi didn’t discuss her trip with State Department.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
YES SHE DID!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:39 pm#20: That’s different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
Comment by MAF54
Rightwing apologist.
Dismissed.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:40 pm#24: Of course they'd say that. Why would you believe people who've sworn to destroy Israel and aggressively support terrorism?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:40 pmComment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
Right! How dare ANY member of Congress go on overseas junkets and so-called "fact finding" missions. I mean, this is just as bad as Congressmen going to golf at St. Andrews! And we certainly don't want Congress to write laws regulating commerce with foreign nations! Imports and Exports should be totally unregulated!
Heck, Congress shouldn't even be passing legislation funding U.S. Embassies in foreign countries. Why should my taxes go to help someone who chooses to vacation outside the safe confines of our borders!
/disgust.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:41 pmI don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
And I'll bet you don't see any problem with five Republicans on a young page, either.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:41 pm"Republicans are running State Department and White House"... and this country right into the ground!
May 4th, 2007 at 2:41 pmYOU PEOPLE JUST DON'T GET IT!!!!
Secretary Rice is doing her job. Pelosi is not. Just like you cried "elections matter" about the 2006 outcome, we'll say it about the 2004 result. George W. Bush is President. PERIOD. Whether you think he won fair and square is pointless - he's still the President. AND his Administration and cabinet decide foreign policy - even if it is just a photo op. Pelosi is a left-wing attack dog who has no business going on missions to Syria on Israel's behalf (oh wait... Israel never asked her to go. She LIED).
If you want to send Nancy to Syria, you need to win the White House. Something you haven't been able to do in quite sometime.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:41 pm#37 - Please tell that to the Dow. It doesn't appear to be paying attention.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#
#20: That’s different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
Then you are a hypocrite. That was a bipartisan trip with both Republicans & Democrats, yet only Pelosi receives any criticism. So, you'll be ok with trips under a Democrat President that exclude Republicans?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:42 pm#20: That’s different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
So, Jake, it doesn't matter WHAT message was delievered by the Speaker, just the fact that she was a Democrat makes it "unauthorized".
Apparently, you believe Republickers ARE the United States. Thanks for clearing that up.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:44 pmThat’s different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:39 pm
It's the same, it's different, it's the same, it's different ... how fast does that head of yours spin on it's axis. If you were just a little more flexible you could not only gratify yourself but kiss your own ass.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:44 pmis it so hard for thinkprogress.org to understand that it is Condi's job to meet with leaders of other countries? thinkprogress.org, here is a clue for you, Condi is the number one ambassador in the United States!
now, is Pelosi and ambassador? who appointed her? oh wait, my bad, Pelosi is a Congressman.
is the liberal brain so tiny, so poorly informed? yes, rhetorical questions, we know that the answer is yes to both of these questions.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:44 pmRice is much like Dick Cheny and Karl Rove. They are 3 people who know they could never be elected president so they live their fantasy of being president vicariously through their little boy king, George. This is why they're so protective of him and why he looks to them as parents.
"I think I may need to go potty. Is this possible?" George Bush to Condi 9/14/05 during a UN General Assembly meeting.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pmoff topic
The Scottish National Party has won more seats than Labour in Scotland, making it the largest party in the country's parliament for the first time.
FREEEEEEEDOM
Alex Salmond is Scotlands first minister - if he does well we will have independence - That means we will be the 4th richest country in the planet
PLEASE DONT REFER TO BLAIR ANYMORE - he belongs to the english
May 4th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI know that one shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but Condi doesn't look trustworthy (or even sane). This is not a good thing, considering the nature of her job. Something is deeply wrong with this chick. Scary lookin MF, if you ask me.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:46 pmCenter Right = Jake = Patrick1 = MAF54
May 4th, 2007 at 2:46 pm#24: Of course they’d say that. Why would you believe people who’ve sworn to destroy Israel and aggressively support terrorism?
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:40 pm
Are talking about the Syrians? Or Democrats? Given your deluded and infantile worldview (Democrats=Evil, Republickers=Goodness and Sunshine) it's sometimes hard to tell.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:47 pmBlah, blah ,blah mushroom cloud. Blah, blah, blah. STFU Condi. You lost all credibility a long time ago.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:47 pm#39 -
Well, to Republicans who make money, yup, the Dow is an excellent place to point that more rich people are making more money. Too bad the vast majority of Americans have nothing invested in the stock market.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:47 pmThe only place Condo-sleeza has any cred left is w/ her husban..., uh, the President, yeah, that's it's... with the President.
Hope Condo hasn't forgotten how to skate. I hear the Roller Derby is looking for tough women w/ sharp elbows to fill positions immediately.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:48 pm#47 Well at least their IQs are equally low.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:48 pm#47: Is that the liberal version of "(insert an ethnic group here) all look the same" slur? I am not Jake, nor am I Patrick1 or CR. I am MAF54.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:49 pm#43:
In 1997, Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) led a delegation to Colombia at a time when U.S. officials were trying to attach human rights conditions to U.S. security assistance programs. Hastert specifically encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass†President Clinton and “communicate directly with Congress.â€
…a congressional delegation led by Rep. Dennis Hastert (R-IL) which met with Colombian military officials, promising to “remove conditions on assistance†and complaining about “leftist-dominated†U.S. congresses of years past that “used human rights as an excuse to aid the left in other countries.†Hastert said he would to correct this situation and expedite aid to countries allied in the war on drugs and also encouraged Colombian military officials to “bypass the U.S. executive branch and communicate directly with Congress.â€
May 4th, 2007 at 2:50 pmThat’s different. Republicans are running State Department and White House so I don’t see any problem with those five Republicans on the trip.
I see, so they were representing the Republican Party to Syria, not the American people? That makes a kind of sense, considering how few people the Republicans represent any more.
Maybe they were discussing the RNC's '08 platform with Syria? Their social policies are about the same.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:51 pm.
"#37 - Please tell that to the Dow. It doesn’t appear to be paying attention.
Comment by Center Right — May 4, 2007 @ 2:42 pm"
ONLY because Bush has allowed his CRIMINAL friends free reign.....
It won't be long before the market crashes, and when it does it will make the previous crash look like a hickup!
The only people making it in the current market are the RICH!!!!
When the people who are struggling now are pushed a little further where they cannot even pay for necesseties, and they stop spending money you will see this whole thing crash down.
I make good money, and you know what???? I have NOT been able to go out and enjoy the things I used to because everything costs so damn much now.
I make more than 6 years ago, ut have less money to spend. Not because I spend it, but because my fuel, food, and other costs have gone WAY up.
So keep on dreaming in what ever fantasy land you are living in.......
May 4th, 2007 at 2:51 pmis it so hard for thinkprogress.org to understand that it is Condi’s job to meet with leaders of other countries? thinkprogress.org, here is a clue for you, Condi is the number one ambassador in the United States!
now, is Pelosi and ambassador? who appointed her? oh wait, my bad, Pelosi is a Congressman.
is the liberal brain so tiny, so poorly informed? yes, rhetorical questions, we know that the answer is yes to both of these questions.
Hey, Needledick, Condi may be "The No 1 Ambassador in the US", but other than her husband, er... the President, Big Dick "Chaingang" Cheney, and ahem, YOU, who takes her seriously anymore?
If Der Pres is doing such a great job, why did ALL the Repubs delusionally hoping to follow him in the WHOTUS only mention him ONCE last night, while invoking the name of a dead man over and over again.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pm#53 "I am MAF54."
Never met anyone who is so proud to be so wrong so much of the time.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pmnow, is Pelosi and ambassador? who appointed her? oh wait, my bad, Pelosi is a Congressman.
Hater; what about the Republican congressmen that we with Pelosi on that bipartisan trip?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pmI am not Jake, nor am I Patrick1 or CR. I am MAF54.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Whatever, Jake.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pmToo bad the vast majority of Americans have nothing invested in the stock market.
Too bad the stock market's gains are an illusion created by a falling dollar. Measure American equities in any other international banking currency and they've been going sideways for years.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:52 pm.
can we impeach condi?
but look at the bright side, if my memory serves me correct...if we succeed in impeaching both bush and cheney then Speaker Polosi will become president, for the remainder of the term. (she may do more good in the time that would be left, than bush did in the last 6-7 years)
May 4th, 2007 at 2:53 pm#37 - Please tell that to the Dow. It doesn’t appear to be paying attention.
Comment by Center Right — May 4, 2007 @ 2:42 pm
Do you consider an average annual return of 3% over the six years of Bush's presidency to be satisfactory?
It never ceases to amaze me how far these trolls will lower the bar for their Coward-in-Chief.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:53 pmis it so hard for thinkprogress.org to understand that it is Condi’s job to meet with leaders of other countries?
Is it so hard to admit that this administration has no caché with the rest of the world any more? You already know it, you just pretend otherwise.
Condi might as well represent the Oakland Raiders. Nobody gives a shit.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:54 pm.
Rice: Constantly Underestimating New Talent.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:55 pmWhat will Syria understand out of all this?
May 4th, 2007 at 2:56 pmlong way to go for a photo op, Condi... especially for all the flack Nancy's received for that trip... do you genuinely think she went there to take a picture and have tea? she could do that in Frisco... don't attack someone for trying diplomacy when you won't...
May 4th, 2007 at 2:56 pmin addition to hastert's trip to south america, gingrich did the same thing in china in the late '90s.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:56 pm"Please tell that to the Dow."
as soon as i'm done talking with subprime mortgages.
May 4th, 2007 at 2:57 pmand I am Spartacus
May 4th, 2007 at 2:58 pm#56: Ah yes. The evil rich. The very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth. Yes. They really should be punished by taxing them even more. Your class envy is so quaint...
May 4th, 2007 at 2:59 pmSecretary Rice is doing her job. Pelosi is not. Just like you cried “elections matter†about the 2006 outcome, we’ll say it about the 2004 result. George W. Bush is President. PERIOD. Whether you think he won fair and square is pointless - he’s still the President. AND his Administration and cabinet decide foreign policy - even if it is just a photo op. Pelosi is a left-wing attack dog who has no business going on missions to Syria on Israel’s behalf (oh wait… Israel never asked her to go. She LIED).
If you want to send Nancy to Syria, you need to win the White House. Something you haven’t been able to do in quite sometime.
Comment by Center Right —
So when House Speaker Newt Gingrich went to China, while Clinton was President in 1997, and told the Chinese the US would defend Taiwan under any circumstances.... was that improper?
I'm just asking....
May 4th, 2007 at 3:00 pm#64: Well, if the rest of the world ignores our diplomats, it's hardly our fault if we have to resort to economic and military power to accomplish our goals.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:01 pmFOX NEWS
With Condi sitting opposite her Iranian counterpart rumors were Condi was finding it hard to swollow her food it was as if her food was going down in lumps, her tongue was as dry as an arabs foot , at this time she was sweating like a nuns hairline, turning red like a beetroot she experienced a feeling of Guilt, Oh My god all those poor Iraqis weve have killed and the infrastruture, destroyed properties Oh my God what have george and I done to these poor people they never hurt us , It was becoming obviously that the acid in her drink was working a treat washed down with bang Lassie it was plain to see her karma was catching up , when condi belted out the dining room at full speed back up to her apartment, locked the door and experienced her first hot flush , she was not triiping after all it was the menopause, next day blah blah blah blah
May 4th, 2007 at 3:02 pmToo bad the vast majority of Americans have nothing invested in the stock market.
Comment by bobcat_grad — May 4, 2007 @ 2:47
Aaach, you expect Republicans to care about citizens not invested in the market. What are you, some kind of commie librul?
May 4th, 2007 at 3:02 pmYou just gotta hate these scum sucking liars, hey Rice you suck. Repukian spin machine, I just freaking hate these subhumans.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 4th, 2007 at 3:03 pmIs that the liberal version of “(insert an ethnic group here) all look the same†slur? I am not Jake, nor am I Patrick1 or CR. I am MAF54.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Nobody cares. Different trolls, same brain.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:04 pmYou know what sends mixed messages, supporting a Shia government in Iraq while we try to diminish the rise of the Shia spreading from Iran all the while protecting the U.S. 's Sunni Masters in Saudi Arabia. ClusterF*ck!
May 4th, 2007 at 3:05 pmIt amazes me that the Republican mind can turn a simple thing like "all trolls think alike" into an ethnic slur. A good Stepford Republican.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:07 pmThe very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth. Yes. They really should be punished by taxing them even more. Your class envy is so quaint…
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
Doesn't look like the rich created your job. Looks like the taxpayer has. And they didn't create my job now or ever for that matter. Nice blanket, incorrect generalization.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:08 pm#
YOU PEOPLE JUST DON’T GET IT!!!!
Secretary Rice is doing her job. Pelosi is not. Just like you cried “elections matter†about the 2006 outcome, we’ll say it about the 2004 result. George W. Bush is President. PERIOD. Whether you think he won fair and square is pointless - he’s still the President. AND his Administration and cabinet decide foreign policy - even if it is just a photo op. Pelosi is a left-wing attack dog who has no business going on missions to Syria on Israel’s behalf (oh wait… Israel never asked her to go. She LIED).
If you want to send Nancy to Syria, you need to win the White House. Something you haven’t been able to do in quite sometime.
Comment by Center Right — May 4, 2007 @ 2:41 pm
First of all, this is directly from the State Department website. I'll post the link below.
The United States Constitution divides foreign policy powers between the President and the Congress so that both share in the making of foreign policy. The executive and legislative branches each play important roles that are different but that often overlap. Both branches have continuing opportunities to initiate and change foreign policy, and the interaction between them continues indefinitely throughout the life of a policy. This report reviews and illustrates 12 basic ways that the United States can make foreign policy. The practices illustrated in this report indicate that making foreign policy is a complex process, and that the support of both branches is required for a strong and effective U.S. foreign policy.
http://fpc.state.gov/fpc/6172.htm
Regarding having a Democratic President. Seems we had one for the eight years previous to the last six. I guess that's defined as not being able to elect a Democrat for "quite some time?" And after the disaster Bush and the Republicans have brought this nation, I suspect we will have a Democrat for President for several future election cycles.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:08 pm"Well, if the rest of the world ignores our diplomats, it’s hardly our fault "
the rest of the administration ignores condi, especially the cheney.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:09 pm#12
SOLO?????
May 4th, 2007 at 3:09 pmWhat were the repugs that were with her doing then? Shopping for cheap rugs?
Idiot.
"#56: Ah yes. The evil rich. The very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth. Yes. They really should be punished by taxing them even more. Your class envy is so quaint…
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm"
Whatever Jake.......
I have no problem with someone who has EARNED their wealth.....
I have a problem with them being so damn greedy that they continue to take food and essentials from my way of life by the things they do....
I don't expect a simple minded person like you Jake to understand that!!!!
May 4th, 2007 at 3:09 pmThe very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth.
Amazing that people still cling to creationist economics when it's failing for, what, the fourth time in a hundred years? Morons. Investment supply is looking for investment demand, but predatory economics has killed the golden goose.
Oops!
The middle class drives the economy by consumption. The rich in this country have been doing away with middle class jobs because it benefits them, for a while. In the meantime, they can prop up their voodoo economics with crap that only has to fool people as stupid as this MAF twit.
Gee, that was easy.
Go worship your betters, slave.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:10 pm.
> Alex Salmond is Scotlands first minister - if he does well we will have
> independence - That means we will be the 4th richest country in the
> planet
Scottish independence? Who ordered that?! Whatever for?!??
And will the UK's flag now be separated out into two subparts?
May 4th, 2007 at 3:11 pmEarly on I had hoped Rice would be a shining star. What a huge disappointment she is.
Just another corrupt politician.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:12 pmDear ChOyNpDoOcLrEyEtZeA,
Bite me.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:12 pmHey MAF54, doesn't matter if your jake or not, but cause you are still a supreme idiot, moron, a$$hole, etc.
You type like Jake, you have the same hours on as Jake, you have your stupid Ignore List like Jake, which makes you Jake.
Screw off dumb a$$
Hating the Fake Jake (MAF54-figures he would use that name, you perv) daily
May 4th, 2007 at 3:13 pm5 U.S. soldiers reported killed in Iraq 1 hour, 29 minutes ago Yahoo world news
thats 3363 at the moment this after noon + 5 more thats 3368
WOW that 16 since Bushes veto on Tuesday
running at 4.75 this month alone .............. Bush is an idiot he had his chance and he blew it AGAIN idiot
May 4th, 2007 at 3:14 pmTobey, that's sixteen families without Dads, Moms, many more without Uncles, Aunts, for the rest of their lives.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:17 pmBushites = Bastard MoFos.
Just to you let know, CNN is right on top of the important stories as we speak :
SI.com: Police: Cardinals pitcher drunk in crash
Cop roughs up woman racing to dad in hospital
CNNMoney: Report: Microsoft wants Yahoo
Rules bar dateless girl from her prom
Actor turns to print to stop genocide
Sixth-grader admits killing ducks with pencil
Paris Hilton hearing could lead to jail
Cinco de Mayo celebrations
Bo Duke's 'General Lee' selling at $10 million
Duckling follows, grooms, naps with puppy
Wet woman says Hummer pushed her in river
May 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pmThe troops are just toilet paper to the Republicans.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:19 pm.
CNN SUCKS!
May 4th, 2007 at 3:21 pmI have a Nintendo Wii, and my Condi Mii is my favorite. She's cute as a button. I love my Condi, please don't be mean to her.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:23 pmAnd explain how the Dow affects the average houman. Jjust because a bunch of rich people are getting richer, means nothing to Joe American. Dumb fu*k.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:24 pm#31
Totally discredited yourself here...not a hard thing to do, but you've succeeded. How does this illogic compute to make any sense in your warped small mind? Because there's a Republican controlled WH and State Department, it is acceptable for Repubs to go but not Dems? HUH???
Jeez you are stoopid.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:25 pmRice, does tons more useless photo ops then Pelosi. And did just what Pelosi did. She has has not relationship with Syria either. But it's only OK if she does it. She is the most useless and no nothing Secretary of State ever. Just a Bush parrot, no backbone. Is it 2008 yet?
May 4th, 2007 at 3:30 pm#
#31
Totally discredited yourself here…not a hard thing to do, but you’ve succeeded. How does this illogic compute to make any sense in your warped small mind? Because there’s a Republican controlled WH and State Department, it is acceptable for Repubs to go but not Dems? HUH???
Jeez you are stoopid.
Comment by Tweedster — May 4, 2007 @ 3:25 pm
Yo, check out who this is...
http://maf54.org/
May 4th, 2007 at 3:32 pmCenter Right,
Hey retard, my family is working class the DOW means nothing to us.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:34 pmF*cking punk
I love the Caption of CNN:
TALKING WITH THE ENEMY.
He he he. Nice, old, cheap propaganda.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:43 pmThe very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm
New Wealth??? It just pops out of nothing??? What a clueless idiot.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:45 pmLook at the positive effect Speaker Pelosi's trip to Damascus has had on Syria. this has all happened SINCE Pelosi's trip:
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Syria doing more to stop insurgent flow into Iraq-US
03 May 2007 12:51:06 GMT
Source: Reuters
BAGHDAD, May 3 (Reuters) - Syria is doing more to stop the flow of foreign fighters coming across its border into Iraq, the U.S. military said on Thursday.
U.S. military spokesman Major-General William Caldwell said insurgents were still crossing the border into Iraq's vast western desert, where Sunni Islamist al Qaeda in Iraq has influence, but numbers were slowing. "There has been some movement by the Syrians ... there has been a reduction in the foreign fighter flow making their way into Iraq, as we have observed here over the last month," Caldwell told a news conference.
The United States has accused Syria of not doing enough to stop the flow of foreign fighters coming into Iraq. Caldwell did not give precise details on what Syria was doing to stem the flow.
May 4th, 2007 at 3:55 pm#103: Of course they are making these mild concessions that are easily revoked at any time. They're doing it to give a boost to dems and Pelosi and thus weaken US politically. Sometimes you're just so blind.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:02 pmMAF - didn't your mommy warn you that you'd go blind if you kept up that behavior? Your posting masturbation is just pathetic.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pmLook at the positive effect Speaker Pelosi’s trip to Damascus has had on Syria. this has all happened SINCE Pelosi’s trip
WE know, it's the pedophiles, and those like MAF54 who support pedophiles who don't.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pmMarky, you're wasting valuable predatory time preaching your fruitless gospel to those who hold you in complete contempt.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:06 pmMake yourself useful and text some teens.
They’re doing it to give a boost to dems and Pelosi and thus weaken US politically.
Comment by MAF54(Jake) — May 4, 2007 @ 4:02 pm
That's it? That's all you have, Jake? Man, it must really suck to be you.
And you get paid for posting $hit like this?
You'll have to do much better than that. Please give examples of how preventing the foreign fighters from entering Iraq weakens the US.
You are a dolt!
May 4th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWhere's all the Stanford grads apologizing all over themselves for their Alma Mater's dreadful decision making that binds this scum to that otherwise fine institution of higher education.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:11 pmAnd sometimes you are a freaky old man that uses the screen name of a pedophile.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:13 pmSo tell me, Jake, Patrick1, firehead, MAF54, yada, yada, yada:
Have the same old useless talking points from your "heroes" in the White House gotten harder to chew on lately. Can't you idiots come up with any better talking points? All the ones you seem to spew out keep getting shot down better than Cheney shot his friend.
I guess you guys think that if you say the same things over and over again, you'll end up believing it?
Sorry, we liberals are way smarter than that. We actually have original thoughts and don't need anyone to tell us what to say.
Saw another bumper sticker recently:
"Of course it hurts,
May 4th, 2007 at 4:15 pmyou're being screwed
by an elephant."
Rice has been as worthless as teets on a boar. She failed as the National Security Advisor, she's failing as Sec. of State. She drank the Bush Kool-Aid and lost her brains. Pity, that.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:18 pmwhy doesnt the press ever ask questions like "Why are you focused on Pelosi and not the othe 5 Republicans?"
im beginning to think the press is keeping BushCo afloat. they certainly werent so gentle with Bill Clinton. What the hell is going on?
May 4th, 2007 at 4:19 pmComment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 2:59 pm:
"Class envy"...Did you say, "Class Envy?" We don need no stinkin' class envy!
Actually, every time the classes become unbalanced to the point of having what amounts to a huge lower class and a very small upper class - with a small middle class to serve the welthy directly - the lower class overthrow the upper class (usually very bloody) and take the country back. The upper class always looses this conflict. Think South Africa. Think Cuba. Think Poland. Think France. Think Russia. That's how it works.
So , that said, I invite you to STFU.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:24 pmIt seems that Condi-ment may be taking out her frustrations and trying to blame Pelosi for her failures.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:26 pmAll Condi got to talk to was Syria's foreign Minister, and I'm guessing he didn't even toss her a scrap under the dinner table.
Pelosi talked with the Prime Minister of Syria, and I'm pretty sure she talked to the President of Syria as well.
The Syrians are not going to waste their time talking to arrogant, ignorant, and threatening representatives of the Bush regime.
All they have to do is patiently wait.
This is a culture that has dealt with foreign agressors and occupiers for millenia.
They have a lot of patience, and a lot of savvy.
They also have very long memories.
One of the greatest issues with Iran, is that they remember well the CIA backed coup which threw out a democratically elected government, and installed a brutal Saddam style dictor, the Shah.
The Iranians remember the years of terror that brought on.
Most Americans have not a clue of those events.
#104,
Yeah thats it Syria is tweaking policy to make Nancy look good.
May 4th, 2007 at 4:29 pmChrist you evil conserv666ative tinfoil hat wearers make me laugh.
Hey repukian tools, the Dow is up because of all the jobs that they shipped to china so they could make greater profits at the expense of american jobs, that is why it is up you f*cktards....what kind of car you own the MAF54 molester? I being a dem only buy american, a 94 red corvette, a 06 charger, a 06 jeep, a 96 chev s10, all american because I care about american jobs. Eat me you scum
the repukes are just slamming Pelosi because they are on the ropes now, and see that they just might get impeached.
Hating the Repukain Mafia daily
May 4th, 2007 at 4:30 pmMarky, you’re wasting valuable predatory time preaching your fruitless gospel to those who hold you in complete contempt.
Make yourself useful and text some teens.
Comment by Cpt. Crepitus
:-D
May 4th, 2007 at 5:00 pm#111: Whatever. Let me ask this. Do you really believe that any oversight or investigation is going to bring us down? We may have lost 2006 elections and we may lose the WH and some more seats in 2008, but we're not going to keep losing forever.
Then think about how far right this country was taken in the last eight years. Then try to imagine how far to the left you can move the nation when you're in power.
We have seeded institutions like the department of justice, state department, military, EPA, CIA, FBI and practically every nook and cranny of the federal structure with loyal people some of whom are extremely difficult to fire legally. And I doubt the dems can show similar ruthlessness in shoving agenda down peoples' throats as we have shown. So, I don't think you're going to be able to roll back everything we have accomplished.
When we eventually return to power the political center will still be to the right of what it was in 2001. You see, it works like a ratchet and we have the patience to keep ratcheting us further and further to the right even if it takes decades and decades.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:05 pmcunti is an ignorant bitch who thinks we got into wwii by congressional declaration authorizing the overthrow of Hitler. What a moron.
She is beyond question, the worst SOS ever and before that she was the worst NSA head ever
whta do you expect from a Secretary of State so unfamiliar with world and American history she cannot speak cogently about it? No wonder she fails utterly as a diplomat.
The Bush administration is full of cronys ... third and fourth rate minds who abhor government and are there to loot and transform the United States into a closed rethugnican theocratic mafia.
They MUST be gotten rid of... in their entirety
CLEAN SWEEP 2008
May 4th, 2007 at 5:14 pmThank you Ms Zooey,
May 4th, 2007 at 5:16 pmSincerely, The Puffy One.
I'll pose the same question here as I did on another thread: why are people responding to a poster who proudly takes the handle of a pedophile? Why? Sexually abusing children is not a laughing matter. Any a-hole who proudly takes the handle of a pedophile doesn't deserve any kind of response. What he deserves is to get his ass kicked.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:20 pmlegislation limiting recovery by federal employees who claim they have been "wrongfully discharged" for whatever reason, including Title V claims, etc., MUST be passed in order to allow for the complete purging and cleansing of these incompetent cronys from the system.
Cmon America, finish the job you started in 2006.
99.99% of the world is progressive, America does not need to be run by dinosaurs.
CLEAN SWEEP 2008
May 4th, 2007 at 5:21 pmYou won't have any credibility as long as you support pedophiles, like the screen name you are using.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:22 pmWhen we eventually return to power the political center will still be to the right of what it was in 2001. You see, it works like a ratchet and we have the patience to keep ratcheting us further and further to the right even if it takes decades and decades.
Comment by MAF54 — May 4, 2007 @ 5:05 pm
And sometimes you tighten things too much and they snap. Like your mind, your party and your "plan".
May 4th, 2007 at 5:29 pmRice is the Secretary of State. Pelosi is the Speaker of the House. Why is the Speaker of the House making state visits? She is a bright woman. If she wants to be the Secretary of State, she should do that. Until then, she should concentrate on redistributing wealth to buy votes.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmMAF54,
Nothing but evil blackness in your heart.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:38 pmpaul,
And you think that the current administration doesn't redistribute wealth?
Thats a really really old talking point, lets freshen it up.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:42 pmPaul, in 1983, boomers were tricked into a scam where they thought they were paying for their own retirements by supporting Reagan's doubling of the Social Security Tax. It was the largest tax increase in the history of our country. The president you support gave tens of billions of that very money to the wealthiest 1% of Americans. This is the largest redistribution of wealth in the history of human civilization. The money was taken from working class Americans and redistributed to the wealthy. That's what happened. William Grieder has referred to this as the biggest "bait and switch" in history. So please reevaluate that tired old republican talking point of yours. It's the opposite of reality.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:51 pmOh, and Paul. When Speaker of the House Newt Gingridge went to Isreal during the period when Clinton was trying to broker a peace accord, Newt proceeded to issue a public statement which undermined Clinton's peace initiative. Did you have a problem with that as well? I'm going to guess that you didn't.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:55 pmImagine Nancy Pelosi becomes President. She pulls the troops out of Iraq (mass genocide results, but thats besides the point) and she establishes policies that abandon Israel as an ally. Now, image someone like Duncan Hunter, going to Tel Aviv to speak with the Israeli Prime Minister and describing/implying (for the world press) that Pelosi doesn't know what she's doing. Her policies are a mistake. She has abandoned Israel and it is wrong. At what point did we start believing it was a good idea to speak with more than one voice on international affairs. When you get a democrat in the white house, you probably won't think it is such a good idea.
May 4th, 2007 at 5:57 pmImagine Nancy Pelosi becomes President. She pulls the troops out of Iraq (mass genocide results, but thats besides the point) and she establishes policies that abandon Israel as an ally.
Comment by paul — May 4, 2007 @ 5:57 pm
Wow. Is this Jake under a new name by any chance?
Imagine Nancy Pelosi becomes President.
Okay, so you start out with a hypothetical that will only happen if both Cheney and Bush are impeached first.
She pulls the troops out of Iraq (mass genocide results, but thats besides the point)
You mean mass genocide like Bush is ignoring in Darfur? Or do you mean mass genocide like is going on in Baghdad right now?
and she establishes policies that abandon Israel as an ally.
Okay, we know this is a hypothetical, and its relation to reality is pretty marginal at best, but on what do you base this speculation? Your experience in the bizarro-based community?
I think I'm tired of your pathetic attempts at rhetoric already. Come back when you've got some game, Jake.
May 4th, 2007 at 6:14 pmUntil Condi finds that smokin gun in the form of a mushroom cloud, she has no credibility and obviously is afraid to testify in front on Congress, under oath.
May 4th, 2007 at 6:14 pmpaul,
Imagine for a moment you upped your dose and imagine that it wasn't enough to cause harm but that it actually managed to stabilize your insanity. Now imagine how sweet it would be to actually see reality. That's where you could be if you would just UP YOUR DOSE!
F*cking hypothetical windbag.
May 4th, 2007 at 6:24 pmPaul: "When you get a democrat in the white house, you probably won’t think it is such a good idea."
I've got one big problem with your hypothetical: when Pelosi went to Syria, she publically stated that the delegation supported the President with respect to his policy on Israel. When Gingridge went to Israel, he publically stated a position which was the opposite of the President. I hope you can see the difference. And, Paul, how about Dana Rohorbacher. He went to Afganistan and praised the Taliban at the same time Clinton was calling the Taliban a supporter of terrorism.
Your positions might have more weight if they weren't so duplicitous.
May 4th, 2007 at 6:33 pmCondi's just projecting again.
May 4th, 2007 at 6:56 pmCondoleeeeeza Rice is a fraud, delusional and full of shit. Thank's TP for providing me a place to catapult that sentiment into cyberspace.
May 4th, 2007 at 7:41 pmThere's no other way to say it:
Condi Rice is a c*nt.
May 4th, 2007 at 7:41 pmIf Paris Hilton can get 45 days in LA County jail for violating her probation, RICE the other bitch should get 45 years!
And as for what Rice says of Pelosi, can we say JEALOUSY?
Rice is doing the typical republiCON parrot talking points that no one is buying anymore.
May 4th, 2007 at 8:09 pmWhy is it ok for the fifth in line for the presidency to talk with foreign leaders, but not okay for the third in line? I understand all about the job description for the Secretary of State, but that does not dis-allow the Speaker of the House to visit with leaders of a foreign nation. It would seem that all this b.s. rhetoric being spewed by the neo-cons is just that: rhetorical b.s.
May 4th, 2007 at 8:20 pmrice, bush, cheney...all very, very small people. And quite the disaster to have in positions of responsibility as we all know too well.
May 4th, 2007 at 8:39 pm.
Ah yes. The evil rich. The very same evil rich who create your jobs and actually generate new wealth. Yes. They really should be punished by taxing them even more. Your class envy is so quaint…
Take a freaking econ class, toad.
May 4th, 2007 at 11:50 pmCondi is pissed that Nancy did what she hasn't done.
May 5th, 2007 at 12:39 amOh dear, I guess poor Connie hasn't gotten the memo yet.
Bush is a lame duck with an approval rate in the 30s. Nancy Pelosi has substantially a lot more staying power than Secretary Rice--the little gal from the heart of Dixie.
May 5th, 2007 at 12:51 amGood ol Nancy, she's really smart. In a region where women are seen as subbordinate and expected to obey men and religion She stomped all over the feet of her superiors and decided that, even though we had ceased talks with Syria because they appeared to be linked to the assasination of a leader in Lebenon, she was a powerful woman who answered to no man or religion and could talk and take pictures and make a difference. I bet the guy hated the sight of her ankles and thought she oughta be beat with a stick. What a culturally ignorant ditz.
May 5th, 2007 at 12:51 amTree, so, you are against Pelosi going to Syria because she is a woman? Is that a new Thug talking point? She seemed to do just fine.
May 5th, 2007 at 1:21 amTree, you are just pissed because the Syrians don't hate women quite as much as you do.
May 5th, 2007 at 1:22 amIt appears like Rice is jealous that Pelosi knows how to practice diplomacy and Rice doesn't. After all, when you're the Secretary of State to Mr. "either you're with us or you're against us" then diplomacy is superfluous. This also explains why Condi is the most useless Secretary of State ever.
May 5th, 2007 at 2:13 amIf you were to take Pelosi, Rice, Gonsales, Bush and the rest of the washington bunch and put them in a bag and shook it up it would be hard to guess which one would slither out first.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:08 amWhy get wrapped around the axle on this...If Congress is responsible for a war vote...Syria is labeled an enemy...The last war vote (Iraq) is being shoved down Congress's throat as evidence of agreement...We are told intelligence was not what it should have been...The war was sold...Critics ask if we really exhausted all deplomatic means before Iraq war...James Baker and others encourage speaking to enemies before wasting blood and teasure...Isn't Pelosi doing due diligence with Syria?
She is doing what I would expect of the Leader of Congress. Extending a hand - Opening channels - Seeking her own knowledge - When did that become a mistake? You can not have it both ways!
May 5th, 2007 at 10:06 amI am a woman whose loved a man for a while. In doing so you learn that there are some things you can not change and if you are smart you start doing the hard work of changing what you can. When someone steps outside of a policy they shake up other peoples jobs and waste our money. New ideas can be beneficial to a team if you can work it into feasible policy. Nanci's photo op in Syria was nothing more. What she accomplished was proving how arrogant and self serving she is. She seems to dismiss anyone she disagrees with and all the men who have gone before her were just liars and screw ups, all research provided to them, the 9-11 commission, its all garbage and lies?, every one in government slithers? Sounds like a religion, one that hates men and breeds paranoia. There are a few I definitely believe slither but one can get closer to truth and practice a little discernment. Our govt has so many checks and balances, if one slithers too much he/she isn't that hard to oust. The garbage is the politics after your vote. If you are a woman, the next time you run into a middle aged hard core Islamic man try having a chat with him before you think Nanci did just fine. I trust you would do as well as her.
May 5th, 2007 at 10:11 amI find Tree's comments rather interesting...work on what you can change...I wonder what changed Bush's position from we do not talk to enemies to sitting down with Syria...Nancy Pelosi visits with Syrian leaders...they speak of common interests...they recieve her well and with respect...poof Condi sits down with a "Prue Evil" with in a month...Pelosi is smarter than she seems on the surface.
When it comes to men - you women should remember the effort for equal rights has been a long one even in this country...the woman's right to vote effort did not start until 1848 - 76 years after the founding of this country 1848- the Law was not establish for another 72 years - 1920. Your aguments may not resonate with the woman persecuted, arrested and harrassed in that 72 year stuggle.
May 5th, 2007 at 10:38 amYou might be right Joe, about Nanci doing what is to be expected of Congress. As far as change, I'm sure there has to be a lot of it to accomodate her actions. That doesn't mean they are the best.
May 5th, 2007 at 11:11 amRice has no business critizing anyone for doing their job, while she cannot even do hers.
May 5th, 2007 at 12:03 pmI repeat--the vice president of Syria is a woman.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmHey Buck Fush (and you thought that name was mighty clever, didn't you),
some advice:
The way you smashed MAF54 in your comment 89 makes your argument look weak, real weak. Why can't you democrats debate like educated people, not squabbling school children? Don't have a bigger vocabulary (or cleaner, for that matter)?
May 13th, 2007 at 4:01 pmThanks, MAF54, for keeping it clean (and correct)
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