As do all of our dead soldiers. Doug never fought, you see. He was busy baking cookies at a commune outside Tel Aviv during college. Or maybe that was his stupider twin.

Meantime, Doug is said to auditioning to teach remedial note taking at Georgetown, where he can compare his notes, as they were, with the other guy that got fired, Georgie Tenet.

Ahem: anthrax, anthrax, anthrax…

That one went right down the memory hole.

That there has been no terrorist attacks on US soil since 9/11 is proof of nothing. If anything, it’s proof that the Bush administration was lax in the months prior. I mean, they knew the names of all those guys with box cutters and had been watching them. People had reported suspicious activity by them and nothing happened. Condi still hasn’t answered Bill Clinton’s question about the USS Cole: Why did she do nothing once the CIA had identified the culprits? Where were all the FISA wiretaps from Jan to Sept 2001? Why did the WH, the NSA, and the FBI ignore all the warnings?

Personally, I think the heartless attitude of Americans to war and its destruction does come from so little harm having happened on US soil. The Europeans were far more skeptical of this invasion because they knew war wasn’t something you read about in the newspaper; war was bombs falling and people dying and horror beyond the imagination. To Americans, war was Rumsfeld saying “Stuff happens” before the sports recap.

Truman did not need to drop the bomb on Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Japan had been trying to negotiate a surrender for weeks before the bombs were dropped. The Japanese knew the war was lost. Incinerating all those people was just a military experiment. And one that was so horrific that the US had to suppress all knowledge of the aftereffects immediately. And the Americans remain in Japan to this day. So much for Peace.

This is like watching the three stooges poke each others eyes, pull each others nose and slap each other upside the head.

Nor does it talk about speeding tickets or unitary executive theory.

What is the topic of this thread Jake?

As well;

In an interview and a four-page written statement, Tenet defended the NIE prepared under his supervision in October. In that estimate, U.S. intelligence analysts judged that Hussein was intent on acquiring a nuclear weapon and was trying to rebuild the capability to make one.

“We stand behind the judgments of the NIE” based on the evidence available at the time, Tenet said, and “the soundness and integrity of our process.” The estimate was “the product of years of reporting and intelligence collection, analyzed by numerous experts in several different agencies.”

Tenet said the time to “decide who was right and who was wrong” about prewar intelligence will not come until the Iraqi Survey Group, the CIA-directed, U.S. military postwar study in Iraq of Hussein’s weapons of mass destruction programs is completed. The Bush administration has said this will require months or years.

That survey is complete;

The Iraq Survey Group’s main findings — that Hussein’s Iraq did not possess chemical and biological weapons and had only aspirations for a nuclear program …
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/25/AR2005042501554.html

Seems Tenet and Feith, as well as the whole administration was wrong. Tenet and Feith can blame another all they want, the fact is they were both wrong and gave bad advice based on, of all things alumimium tubes (for 81 mm rockets)
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Jake man made carbon dioxide is not the same as natural carbon dioxide that we exhale. They do not call it pollution but a greenhouse gas.

Also, knowing what he knew all along the way in the process, why didn’t Tenet come forward before now? Before thousands of our children died in this illegal war? Where was Tenet’s voice then?

Sorry, George….you’re as complicit as Bush and Feith and the rest of the criminals in the international war crimes which have been committed by everyone involved….including PNAC members!! Time will tell this story and I believe we will live to see Bush & Co. walking in handcuffs toward prison in the near future.

http://www.thepeaceplan.org

Comment by Jake — May 6, 2007 @ 9:54 am

That’s the PROBLEM. There is a reason why the Iraq War supporters think Sept. 11 is a greater threat than World War II. 56 million people died in World war II…..half a million of them were Americans.But they were soldiers and sailors. The American homeland was largely untouched….no civilians died here. America used to be protected by “Fish to the East and Fish to the West. Now Globalization has made US vulnerable at home. Terrorism may be a greater threat to the American Homeland, but hunger and disease are still the main threats Worldwide.

Fair point.

I’m not so sure… as I recall, upon W’s Iraq invasion Tenet had never been told about activities, sources, or conclusions of the Pentagon’s Office of Special Plans: eg. Feith’s shop. My impression at the time was Tenet was being used by the WH as cover for their Iraq ambitions, selectively quoting both Tenet and various CIA memoranda while carefully omitting caveats and suspicions of various WH claims: “mushroom cloud”, aluminum tubes, NIGER, Al Qada connections etc. etc.

Beyond that, Feith says…

Mr. Tenet’s point here builds on the book’s much-publicized statements that the author never heard the president and his national-security team debate “the imminence of the Iraqi threat,” whether or not it was “wise to go to war” or when the war should start. He paints a distorted picture here.

Not AFAIC. Rather this was precisely my experience of pre-invasion buildup: exaggerated claims, sliming of Blix, (mostly forgotten now) dishonesty by W’s people w/the UN security council, Powell’s “clear and convincing evidence” before UN… it’s a long list, and the “picture” I got both then and now is precisely what Feith calls “distorted”.

But even if it were true that he never heard any such debate and was seriously dissatisfied with the dialogue in the White House Situation Room,

It was true…

he had hundreds of opportunities to improve the discussion by asking questions or making comments. I sat with him in many of the meetings, and no one prevented him from talking.

Again, the CIA’s “caveats” were omitted. The WH promoted Feith’s “intelligence” while wrapping Tenet’s authority (and later mistakes) around their garbage for validation.

Indeed, AFAIC Tenet didn’t stand up for the truth back then. Just as US attorneys didn’t (until recently) stand up against all the DOJ’s shenanigans. And just as “Browny” didn’t stand up to W’s FEMA political operatives until Junior’s machine scapegoated him. Same thing happened during FERC’s slow walk “investigation” on the “California Energy Crisis” which was a self evident scam from the git-go, & which bilked Ca. out of $32b +.

There’s a consistent theme to these processes, reflected throughout most everything this administration does. I never cease to be amazed how each successive debacle seems to conveniently forget the preceding ones… all well establishing a consistent modus operandi which, contrary to Feith’s claim (”distorted picture”), is the precise means by which this WH executes policy which it routinely denies.

It’s madness AFAIC.

Just as much as I “cared” when Truman dropped A-bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Care to answer my question from the other thread now?