In March, the Washington Post revealed that General Services Administration chief Lurita Doan and Karl Rove deputy Scott Jennings held a videoconference earlier this year to devise “ways to help Republican candidates.” ThinkProgress has produced a report that documents the fact that GSA is only one of many federal agencies that the Bush White House has infiltrated for partisan purposes.
READ THE REPORT HERE.
Politicization of the federal government has been illegal for decades. The 1939 Hatch Act specifically prohibits partisan campaign or electoral activities on federal government property, including federal agencies. But in 2005, Ken Mehlman, formerly one of Bush’s top political advisers, outlined the White House’s strategy of utilizing government resources for partisan gain:
One of the things that can happen in Washington when you work in an agency is that you forget who sent you there. And it’s important to remind people that you’re George Bush people. … If there’s one empire I want built, it’s the George Bush empire. [One Party Country, p. 102]
With that imperial partisanship in mind, the Bush White House has engaged in an unprecedented quest to politicize the federal government, giving briefings and PowerPoint presentations everywhere from the Interior Department to NASA on how to secure Republican victories. Said one Interior Department manager, “We were constantly being reminded about how our decisions could affect electoral results” (One Party Country, p. 103). Bush loyalists in federal agencies have also helped generate millions for favored political candidates.
ThinkProgress’ report highlights the pervasiveness of the White House’s politicization efforts since 2001. Check out the report. Let us know if there’s something we missed in the comments section, or contact us.
And to think that despite all this cheating the Republican party is going down in flames. But when only 28% support the party, and 90% of those people are complete imbeciles, cheating ain’t gonna be enough to save Rove’s skin. With the enemies he has made, he will go to prison. It is only a matter of time.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:05 pmRove will burn in flames. No doubt about it. His bag of tricks is empty and he’s running on fumes.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:09 pmIs this a surprise to anyone? It’s been the way of politics and politicians for centuries. They cheat, distort and lie at every chance possible….
those of us who look to the government to help and protect us are truly being misled - politicians in America are really no better, no more honest, and no more just than any other in the world throughout history.
It’s just the nature of the beast.
A pretty decent read on this issue:
“Politicians Lie? Say it Ain’t So!”
May 5th, 2007 at 3:11 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ politicians_lie___say_it_ain_t_so
How can Rove sell to the American people more war, death, debt, and GOP scandal? People are fed up and Bush’s approval rating isn’t at 28% because of a “margin of error.” Instead of working on a “permanent Republican majority” Rove should concentrate on getting Bush’s approval rating to within half of what Bill Clinton’s was.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:13 pmNot just the government..
May 5th, 2007 at 3:13 pmI thinkalso coporations specially oil companies who played the game well…by reducing the gasoline prices 4 or 5 months in a row…then after November of last year..a gradual climb began..and now we are back we started…
Un fortunatley..even that did not help winning back the House…
Heh. It’s too late. We’ve already seeded all federal institutions for the decades to come.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#3 Stop playing the equivalence game. The current people in power are much worse than the historical average.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#6 MAF54
You pervert. You folks haven’t done shit. All that is seeded can be undone. By the way Buttboy, you aren’t fooling anyone. Facists are always defeated buttboy and your day will come.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:20 pm#6…..the seeds are dead MAF54 , my buddy.
Watch is all unfold. You think you’re cute now…..wait for it. The majority of the American people are better than you and your buds………and they are taking their country back a day at a time.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pmHeh. It’s too late. We’ve already seeded all federal institutions for the decades to come.
Comment by MAF54
And this sort of shit is ok with you, right pervert?
May 5th, 2007 at 3:21 pmso, how to get this report out to inform the ameri-bots?…
May 5th, 2007 at 3:22 pmmaybe get a rise outta them…
which lefty main stream media source will talk about this?…
…
and #3……..if you’re willing to accept dishonesty and incompetance in your government, as your post suggests, well then just move aside and make room for the real Americans to clean up this mess. We don’t need ya
May 5th, 2007 at 3:24 pmzooey: Why, of course it is.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:25 pmComment by MAF54 — May 5, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
On the contrary, they’ve gone to seed.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:27 pmMAF54….see # 8 # 9 #12
Troll………:)
May 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pmahhh, MAF54 - that’s exactly the type of arrogance that’s gotten you folks where you find yourselves now. Let’s wait and see what shedding a little light on those seeds does.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:28 pmHeh. It’s too late. We’ve already seeded all federal institutions for the decades to come.
Comment by MAF54
With what? Child molestors and other amoral types like Foley? Abramoffs and Cunninghams? Your not using your head MAF54, what you have put into power is nothing more than Straussian miscreants who have duped you.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pmHeh. It’s too late. We’ve already seeded all federal institutions for the decades to come.
Comment by MAF54
Who ARE you people? You don’t happen to have a swastika banner hanging on your bedroom wall, do you?
May 5th, 2007 at 3:30 pmIt’s sort of fun to put trolls like MfA54 in their place when they are spiraling downward into oblivion-as opposed to when they had their moment of bizarre power. ( Not that we wouldn’t welcome them if they became intelligent mind you….but we need not hold our breath in all likelihood)
They are a dying breed the trolls…they get louder and more disgusting as they get more desperate
May 5th, 2007 at 3:31 pm#18….don’t be surprised. People like MFA54 think it’s cool to harm - manipulate - steal from - lie to..others……didn’t you know? And at about a 2nd grade level…
May 5th, 2007 at 3:33 pmObstruction will be a good place to start for Pinky.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
#18: Ah yes. The evil nazi argument. No. We are not nazis. We are going to save this nation from the weakness of liberalism.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:35 pmSpeaking of seeding, MAF54, it’s a beautiful day. Shouldn’t you be down at the playground with a pair of binoculars?
May 5th, 2007 at 3:36 pmWe can track down the Rovebots and turf them out. If they’re around honesty and decency, they start shrieking in distress.
Heh. It’s too late. We’ve already seeded all federal institutions for the decades to come.
Comment by MAF54 — May 5, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
There, there, Li’l Buddy. We’ll find all you page-groping perverts hiding in the woodworks and root ya all out. That’s what the Hatch Act and RICO, amongst others, are for. the far bigger problem will be how to come up w/ enough prison cells to hold of ya. Hey, wait a minute… hasn’t the Cheneyburton Corp been building secret detention camps all over the country?
On the otehr hand, someone like you, you’ll probably like it in prison… all those men, nothing else to do… hot steamy showers, slippery bars of soap. Admit, you can’t WAIT to go BEHIND BARS…
May 5th, 2007 at 3:37 pm#22…ha ha…..idiot
May 5th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThat says it the best
“No. We are not nazis”
: ) Hate to break it to you, but… YES, you ARE! (little white hooded ones!)
May 5th, 2007 at 3:39 pmMAF54 is apparently typing under the influence here. It’s on another thread professing it’s love of Percocet, then wonders where MA is. Having seen MA’s website and pic, this probably means that it’s over-indulged in Percocet and is looking for some crank to counteract. Just say no MAF.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:40 pmIt’s sort of fun to put trolls like MfA54 in their place when they are spiraling downward into oblivion-as opposed to when they had their moment of bizarre power. -S
One of their biggest mistakes was that they were sore winners. I know many a conservative that have turned their back on them for such childish antics such as McRoves rap dance.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:40 pmI think the GOP should ask for their money back for the rotten DeLay, Abramoff, Libby, Perle, Rumsfeld, and Gonzales “seeds.” They ain’t growing too good.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:43 pmYou know, the Conservative movement has failed. Conservatives will fail to try to extricate themselves from the Republican party and Bush. Arrogance is built into conservatism…..with maybe a very few exceptions. Because it does not acknowledge the validity of a social contract…helping your neighbor. That view is childish ( we are interconnected whether conservatives want to stay in denial about that or not) and we all need each other’s help. Nope, Bush is going down with the Repugs and the Conservatives. Conservatism is going to have to rebuild from ashes….ground up.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:46 pm#18: Ah yes. The evil nazi argument. No. We are not nazis. We are going to save this nation from the weakness of liberalism.
Comment by MAF54
I’m sure many of the german christians thought the same thing with their moral superiority propaganda before they were destroyed for their plans of world domination and empire. If you can’t see the parallels your blind. I am not saying your a nazi, obviously your not, but your following the same basic propaganda.
BTW Strauss is a german immigrant professor who see’s noble lies as a means to rule the rabble. His students were Perle, Wolfowitz,Bolton etc..Rove seems to also follow such noble lies which in no way can ever be considered moral or values, it only enables corruption (as we see)
May 5th, 2007 at 3:49 pmBush has turned the Federal Government into one big stinkin flatulence joke.
The greatest moron in US history and still 28% of Americans love him.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:51 pm…People like MFA54 think it’s cool to harm - manipulate - steal from - lie to..others……didn’t you know? And at about a 2nd grade level…
Comment by s — May 5, 2007 @ 3:33 pm
That’s where they went wrong (not fault of their own of course!) I thank the American people everyday for seeing through it. The nightmare will soon be over!
May 5th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#22, that comment sounds so much better in the original German.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:54 pm#32 correction:
28% don’t still “love” him. They love covering their sorry asses. They too cannot admit a mistake and they are only protecting their mental illness;………these types DO NOT do introspection or the examined life…….it is not in their job description. They are arrogant, unthinking, underdeveloped human beings.
But most of all they are AFRAID. Of most everything.
May 5th, 2007 at 3:56 pmBut most of all they are AFRAID. Of most everything.
Agreed, s. Who was it, Churchill, who said, “We have nothing to fear but fear itself”? W/ this crowd, they have nothing left to run on, traffic in, and worship, but fear itself.
The beast always snarls the hardest when cornered.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:07 pmOh man. Usually I really hate you guys, but I’m pretty mellow now. Damn I love percocet…
May 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pmYes, the George Bush Empire that turned to hammered sh$t before our very eyes! Now you see it/ Now you don’t!
May 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pmHitler hated liberals. Stalin hated liberals. Show me someone who hates liberals, and I’ll show you a degenerate.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pm#6 - the republic of stupidity
That was Franklin D. Roosevelt. :)
May 5th, 2007 at 4:12 pmTo those in the Civil Service, who are not plotical appointees, the Hatch Act has always seemed like a way to keep them “down on the farm” and unable to affect those who exercise power over them in the Executive Branch. And, by and large, that was exactly its purpose.
Now, however, you can see the accidental benefit of the Hatch Act (for all its faults) to those in the Civil Service to protect them from trash like Rove and his bed-buddy MfA54 (Motherf*ckerA$$wipe54321outofofficeandintojail) to assure that Butt Rove-r goes to Jail, directly to Jail’ and does not collect the Swiss Bank account Abramoff left for him for “services rendered.”
As for those “seeds” left behind - Nixon tried that, too. It didn’t work. The original Civil Service Act passed in the 1880’s and subsequent rules and regulations are pretty good protection against the kind of “seeds” that blatant criminals like Nixon, Reagan, and the current corrupt president try to leave behind.
First, they actually have to do some WORK and we know that anyone Rove and Company would put in are allergic to WORK!
Second, they are usually criminals also, and the Civil Service Act eventually weeds them out before they can do too much harm.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:13 pmUm, I think that was FDR : )
May 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pmHey MAF54: Get your fat ass off these threads! You know we’ll all get indicted if you continue. Loose lips sinks ships, bro.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:14 pmThanks, Zooey.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:17 pmHey, here. This says it best to the MAF54 drug infested mentally ill traitor kiddies……………..We, the majority of the American people are just….plain….tired ….of your bullshit. Not even talkin passion at the moment….we’re just
……….. tired of ya. You’ve run your course.
:)
May 5th, 2007 at 4:19 pmThanks, Zooey.
Comment by the republic of stupidity
Anytime. :)
May 5th, 2007 at 4:19 pmWe are going to save this nation from the weakness of liberalism.
Comment by MAF54
The Republican party is not historically the war party. And BTW how is buying a nation of poor muslims, that you now wish to rebuild, not Liberal? Isn’t that just welfare for non-Americans? Your going to save America from liberalism thru huge deficits? Thru perpetual war? Thru empire building? Do you recall that Jesus was trying to free his people from Empire and not build one?
May 5th, 2007 at 4:20 pmDamn I love percocet…
Comment by MAF54
C’mon out the weeds, Rush, we know it’s you. And pull your pants up while you’re at it.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:20 pmYeah….I think that says it best really.
MAF54 is on his percolet to help him cope with us.
We have something stronger. Fatigue. It’s a great bs neutralizer. We’re just tired of their asses and busy with more important things…..Like rebuilding our country.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:21 pm“We are going to save this nation from the weakness of liberalism.”
actually, what you’re doing is “saving” this nation from democracy.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:22 pm… actually, what you’re doing is “saving†this nation from democracy.
Comment by pgw
That’s MAF54’s hope… along with the other 28%ers.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:28 pm“And BTW how is buying a nation of poor muslims, that you now wish to rebuild, not Liberal? Isn’t that just welfare for non-Americans? Your going to save America from liberalism thru huge deficits? Thru perpetual war? Thru empire building? Do you recall that Jesus was trying to free his people from Empire and not build one?”
Comment by Tau — May 5,
Conservatives hate affirmative action for American blacks, yet love it when mixed with Bush’s Freedom Spread.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:30 pmWe are going to save this nation from the weakness of liberalism.
Comment by MAF54
By what means, pedophelia?
May 5th, 2007 at 4:36 pmSaved by the bomb
I mean, any country with a president who doesn’t shave properly and never wears a tie deserves what’s coming to it
But the biggest advantage of nuclear weapons is that the repercussions would be so enormous, the upsurge in terrorism so overwhelming, that the world would be totally changed. A year before 9/11, Paul Wolfowitz and Lewis “Scooter” Libby signed a statement for the Project for the New American Century, a neoconservative thinktank. They rather hoped for “some catastrophic and catalysing event like a new Pearl Harbor” to kickstart their dream of a world run by US military might. A nuclear war would do the trick in spades. The Republican party could expect to stay in power for the next 50 or even 100 years.
In 1955 Albert Einstein and Bertrand Russell said the world was faced by a “stark and dreadful and inescapable” choice: “Shall we put an end to the human race; or shall mankind renounce war?” Senator McCain wasn’t bothered by such questions; the human race may be standing on a precipice, but the Republicans have a chance of permanent re-election.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/ commentisfree/ story/ 0,,2073133,00.html
May 5th, 2007 at 4:38 pmWhat’s the end game? When all three branches of government are controlled by one party; when justice depends on whether or not you are a “Loyal Bushie;” when there are only two classes in America, the oppressors and the oppressed. The 30%ers live under the illusion that they will be in the class of the oppressors. They will also die, still believing that illusion.
Historically, One-Party Rule always ends with violence. The one exception I am aware of is the end of apartheid in South Africa.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:54 pm#55: And do you know why? None of these unitary states have ever been ruled by Christians.
May 5th, 2007 at 4:59 pm56 - Hitler thought of himself as a Christian.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:03 pm#57: Yeah, right. He never considered himself a Christian. He was just pretending to be one as long as it was politically useful. He was, in fact, a satanist and - as was recently confirmed by the Vatican, possessed by the Devil.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#54: For secularists like Einstein and Russel that may have been a difficult choice, but for a believer it is not. We already know that this world is a lost cause.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:11 pmAll roads to corruption, deception, murder, theft, and ass f$cking lead to KKKarl Rove, the dirty trickster.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:12 pm#56 And YOU know WHAT??
THIS “unitary state” isn’t ruled by “christians” either.
LYING, MURDERING, STEALING in the name of God is NOT
“following the teachings of Jesus”. i.e. Christian.
Bush and Cheney have a few years left until they meet their MASTER
SATAN
For ETERNITY (along with his “eternal general”)!!!
Monica Goodling will find that SHE and Pat Robertson are there…
See YOU in hell mark foley 54 (cause I’LL be THERE),
Mr. Bush
May 5th, 2007 at 5:12 pmMURDEROUS WAR CRIMINAL
COXUCKER PUNK TRAITOR TO THE USA (TM–BushCrimeCo, Inc.)
Yeah, right. He never considered himself a Christian. He was just pretending to be one as long as it was politically useful. He was, in fact, a satanist and - as was recently confirmed by the Vatican, possessed by the Devil.
You talkin’ about Bush, right??
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
May 5th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#61 and #62: You’ve got some serious problems. Get some help, dude.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:17 pm56 - are you suggesting the United States become a Christian Theocracy?
The current prevailing Christian dogma argues that the only moral obligations are to protect life within the womb and to criminalize homosexuality. This current Christian faith would use the power of the state to force gestation, but once the child is born, the state would provide the infant nothing in the way of health care, food, shelter nor clothing.
The Roman Catholic Church, rife for centuries with pedophilic priests, preached incessantly against lifestyle choices of consenting adults, based on an incorrect translation of the bible. What is now a proscription in the bible against homosexuality was originally a proscription against pedophilia. Odd, that the Church change the Word of God to allow the sins of its priests and condemn the lifestyles of others.
Now, ask yourself this: Why did Bush create an Islamic Theocracy in Iraq?
May 5th, 2007 at 5:19 pm# 59 is the perfect example of supreme laziness. That poster can’t get off it’s ass and do anything to make things better……Scott Peck said the very core of evil is laziness of a sort. I agree. People that are too lazy to hope, work for a better life, and help others. They make excuses gallore….but they are just selfish and lazy.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:19 pm#55 How right you are, the suckers will be cast aside the moment they are no longer useful idiots.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:23 pmWe already know that this world is a lost cause.
Comment by MAF54 — May 5, 2007 @ 5:11 pm
Then what’s the point?
Why insist on staying around and making the rest of us miserable?
May 5th, 2007 at 5:24 pmbut for a believer it is not. We already know that this world is a lost cause.
Comment by MAF54
Oh -No.
We’re dealing with a “Born Again”.
ICK!
No, thanks. I was born just fine the first time.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:33 pmThis little black hearted troll is nothing.He claim’s his reich wingers have planted seed’s every where, trouble is they spread to much shit on their seed’s, now there burnt up and the librals are going to help them have crop failure.. Back under the bridge troll or we’ll plow you under..Blessings all
May 5th, 2007 at 5:36 pmAwwww… Sharon. I’m not a black hearted person. I like people. I really do. I just don’t like the way most people in this country think.
May 5th, 2007 at 5:39 pmMFA… oops, MAF54 -
But you do believe you are one of the “chosen ones”, don’t you?
You believe we are all going to hell for not believing what you believe, don’t you?
May 5th, 2007 at 5:51 pmAwwww… Sharon. I’m not a black hearted person. I like people. I really do. I just don’t like the way most people in this country think.
Comment by MAF54
That’s why you need the Percoset……to make it all go away…..
BTW, is that your own prescription?
May 5th, 2007 at 6:02 pmFor the latest news, document dumps, email archives, hearing transcripts and other essential materials in the firings of U.S. attorneys, see:
May 5th, 2007 at 6:03 pm“The U.S. Attorney Scandal Documents.”
Yeah, right. He never considered himself a Christian. He was just pretending to be one as long as it was politically useful. He was, in fact, a satanist and - as was recently confirmed by the Vatican, possessed by the Devil.
Comment by MAF54 — May 5, 2007 @ 5:08 pm
Hitler was as much as Christian as you are. And you are as much a satanist as he was. And we don’t need you Vatican confirmation bs to know how evil you are.
Look in the mirror and see what’s looking back at you. You think liberals are your enemy but it is really your own soul fighting back against you.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:05 pmAwwww… Sharon. I’m not a black hearted person. I like people. I really do. I just don’t like the way most people in this country think.
Comment by MAF54 —
How do you think the country should be run MAF?
May 5th, 2007 at 6:07 pmLook in the mirror and see what’s looking back at you. You think liberals are your enemy but it is really your own soul fighting back against you.
Comment by Shane
Ohhhh, awesome! I like that one. :-)
May 5th, 2007 at 6:08 pmYou think liberals are your enemy but it is really your own soul fighting back against you.
Comment by Shane
Wow.
That was powerful, Shane.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:10 pmThanks Zooey and trueblue. It was easy because it’s true.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:14 pm“Hitler was as much as Christian as you are. And you are as much a satanist as he was.” Another stupid Comment by Shane
No he wasn’t Shane - but you have NEVER let facts get in your way of deseminating lies….Why do you think Hitler had so many Catholic clerics imprisoned - - when he had been baptized as a Catholic as a child? Do you think perhaps the fact he was no longer a practicing Catholic MAY have had something to do with it? When Hitler used “replacement” theology as a weapon against the Jews, most Christian churches adopted or vocalized their belief in dispensationalism…….(Please start contributing to the conversation when you learn somethingother than the Moveon talking Points….)
May 5th, 2007 at 6:22 pmBut for a believer it is not. We already know that this world is a lost cause. Comment by MAF54
So your going to save the world from this mythical liberalism by starting perpetual war in the middle east, who aren’t liberals, by downing percocets, by hating the way people think, because it is a lost cause, because your a ‘true believer’ in what Jesus taught.
You do realize that your rational makes no sense due to it’s glaring hypocrisy don’t you?
May 5th, 2007 at 6:25 pm“Why do you think Hitler had so many Catholic clerics imprisoned - - when he had been baptized as a Catholic as a child? Do you think perhaps the fact he was no longer a practicing Catholic MAY have had something to do with it?”
Please start contributing to the conversation when you can utilize something other than leading questions.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:27 pm(Please start contributing to the conversation when you learn somethingother than the Moveon talking Points….)
Comment by valiant venus
Oh that’s rich….
Hey Haggie, tell us another funny story about your imaginary dead child.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:27 pmYeah, Zooey….
Hag’s dead kid is at least voting Republican wherever it is…. EWWW!
May 5th, 2007 at 6:31 pmGee,
Where did MFA go to?…….
May 5th, 2007 at 6:32 pmMAF54,
Black evil hate filled heart.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:33 pmNo he wasn’t Shane - but you have NEVER let facts get in your way of deseminating lies….Why do you think Hitler had so many Catholic clerics imprisoned - - when he had been baptized as a Catholic as a child? Do you think perhaps the fact he was no longer a practicing Catholic MAY have had something to do with it? When Hitler used “replacement†theology as a weapon against the Jews, most Christian churches adopted or vocalized their belief in dispensationalism…….(Please start contributing to the conversation when you learn somethingother than the Moveon talking Points….)
Comment by valiant venus
Religion and hate was but a tool that Hitler used to bring him to power. He could have cared less about religion and saw it as tool as todays neo-cons do.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:34 pmHag’s dead kid is at least voting Republican wherever it is…. EWWW!
Comment by trueblue
I just feel sorry for the imaginary live ones….
May 5th, 2007 at 6:35 pmIt’s time for citizens to know more about PNAC and what role each of the members of this twisted neonazi thinktank have played in the “coup on our democracy”. It was all planned in advance….with the single variable being “another pearl harbor”. The Patriot Act was written by PNAC well in advance of 911. Once the 911 probe reopens (thanks to Kucinich), the avalanche of dirt on PNAC and a “who’s who” of these sickos will be made public. No doubt they are all at the pit of this rotting Hitlerian plan for this country.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:37 pmComment by valiant venus — May 5, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
I said Hitler was a Christian and you said he wasn’t. I didn’t say he was Catholic. And Evangelicals don’t consider Catholics “Christians” either. Replacement theology and dispensationalism are both part of Christian (protestant) beliefs. Do you even know what you’re talking about. Oh and I wasn’t talking to you unless you are MAF54 which I guess you are.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:38 pmNow that MAF54 (Mark Foley) has graduated from AA, what’s to be done with his ongoing and chronic pedophelia?? Where are the charges against this man? Where has he gone?
Boehner and Hastert covered for this known pedophile who was preying on our children while “in loco parentis” in the Page Program of this country. Where are the lawsuits brought against this government for their overt lack of supervision of a known predator? The people need to take a long, scrutinizing look at what complaints were brought to Dennis Hastert and John Boehner when they headed this program - what they knew about Mark Foley and those engaging in overnight campouts with the kids, etc.
Mark Foley may have disappeared from the radar but this case has not. The fact of the matter is that there is so much in terms of corruption and scandal to investigate daily that it’s been shoved to the back burner……shoved but definitely not “forgotten” by the american people.
Foley, Boehner and Hastert’s time will come!
May 5th, 2007 at 6:41 pmZooey,
I feel sorry for anyone who is involved in Hag’s life.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:41 pmIn this Hilter discussion, what concerns me most is the obvious “apathy” of the bystanders and citizens while Hilter gained his power over them. It’s unconscionable to me that people would sit back, listen to Hitler’s rehetoric (not unlike what we hear from the GOP and BushCo) and not be completely outraged. It’s this insidious level of apathy which the neonazis in this country are counting on. I’ve got HUGE news for all of them, however, the people of this country are no longer in the haze of lies and the miasma of corruption which this administration has wrought; contrarily, people are sitting up and taking notice, contacting their reps in Congress, pressing for impeachment and absolutely and unequivocally saying “ENOUGH” to those in this administration. Their time is over! Over and out.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:45 pmShane,
As you already know, Hitler hated the Catholics as well.
They were on his extermination list.
The Hag, who is supposed to be college educated, would have known that.
Hmmmmm……???
May 5th, 2007 at 6:49 pmHey Zooey and Trueblue - look at that black hearted venalvagrant. She messed up on her nickname and outed herself as MAF54. Not surprising vv would delight in the identity of a pedaphile, is it.
vv is obviously in lockstep with Coulter and Malkin and their “Let them eat cake!” mentality. I say let’s get the guillotine ready! The revolution is at hand! And in my head I’m hearing “Can you hear the people sing, it is the sound of angry men …” from Les Miserable.
May 5th, 2007 at 6:50 pmAwesome play, Shane.
On the lighter side, have you ever seen the movie, “Start the Revolution Without Me”?
Gene Wilder, Donald Sutherland.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:02 pmHilarious!
And noone is volunteering to fight in the mideast for them. So many eligible Republicans not serving. And they’re so unpopular. We need to nail these criminals.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:03 pmIt’s time for citizens to know more about PNAC and what role each of the members of this twisted neonazi thinktank have played in the “coup on our democracyâ€.
Comment by veritas — May 5, 2007 @ 6:37 pm
When people have anything positive to say about Ronald Reagan it is important to remember that he destroyed the “Fairness Doctrine” that allowed the corruption to prevail because the neocon control the media.
Back when I worked at a WASP investment banking firm they joked about blaming the Jewish bankers for everything and spread these lies as diversions and the masses believed it. Now that they control the media they once again put the blame on Jewish, elitist, liberal, Hollywood types and the people once again believe the propaganda.
These evil fascists work harder at disseminating their lies than true American patriots would ever think necessary. So thanks veritas for spreading the truth.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:04 pmI like people. I really do.
Comment by MAF54 —
with fava beans, and a good Chianti…..
May 5th, 2007 at 7:08 pmwith fava beans, and a good Chianti…..
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
I should be studying, but I’m laughing!
May 5th, 2007 at 7:10 pmOn the lighter side, have you ever seen the movie, “Start the Revolution Without Me�
Gene Wilder, Donald Sutherland.
Hilarious!
Comment by trueblue — May 5, 2007 @ 7:02 pm
No but I’ll look for it now. My 12 year old daughter is a Broadway musical junkie. I’ve learned more about that subject in the last 6 years than I knew my whole life before. Today I had to listen to “Aida” in the car for 2 hours. Could be worse. I don’t have to ever listen to Britney Spears.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:11 pmZooey,
I feel sorry for anyone who is involved in Hag’s life.
Comment by trueblue — May 5, 2007 @ 6:41 pm
If this is her, as was reported:
http://profile.myspace.com/ index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=79943506
I feel sorry for her.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:12 pmwith fava beans, and a good Chianti…..
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
haahaahaaaaaaa!
Good one, BnF.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:12 pmI like people. I really do.
Comment by MAF54 —
with fava beans, and a good Chianti…..
Comment by Briseadh na Faire — May 5, 2007 @ 7:08 pm
Good one BnF.
I think I’d rather spend time with Hannibal Lechter than our evil trolls. He only destroyed one person at a time.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:13 pmI feel sorry for her.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
That’s because you’re a super-good person.
She pushed too far with her dead child joke.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:14 pmYou missed the Veterans Adminstration (VA). Not just Sec. Nicholson (former RNC Chair with no vet advocacy experience), but the crats, specail agents, political appointees; it’s a culture of vet claim denial (per the American Enterprise Institute’s Sally Satel).
Now they have jailed a vet for filing for PTSD.
See http://malcontends.blogspot.com/.
It’s a disgrace.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:14 pmgood afternoon Zooey, trueblue. glad I could lighten up your day. too windy to work outside much today. so I thought I’d pop in and see what’s up.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:16 pmI see that the drunk driving Paris Hilton, home grown porno starlet, may be spending 45 days in jail after driving twice on a suspended license and not enrolling in a alcohol program.
I think Paris and MAF54 should have children: after all in bizzaro world two wrongs make an irrational righty.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:19 pmComment by valiant venus — May 5, 2007 @ 6:22 pm
Comment by MAF54 — May 5, 2007 @ 5:39 pm
Two very sick people. Though they have similar, sinister viewpoints, I do not believe they are one and the same. Pay attention, however, as these are the types of very sick, demented and devious individuals who will do almost anything to permanently screw this once great (though soon to be restored) country.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:20 pmComment by Zooey — May 5, 2007 @ 7:14 pm
The girl on that site has some serious mental/emotional issues that are pretty severly repressed. The “humor” that is posted here is always tinged with anger. And, if that is her, it explains her reactions to the Runes. They were right on, and on a very, very hurtful point with her. I hold no anger towards her. She needs help.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:21 pmgood afternoon Zooey, trueblue. glad I could lighten up your day. too windy to work outside much today. so I thought I’d pop in and see what’s up.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
We finally got a decent day — warm in the sunshine anyway — and I’m studying for finals. Taking a break right now, of course. :)
Shane, I must say you are absolutely on fire today.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:22 pmTau,
If that skank sees the inside of a jail cell for even one day, I’ll faint dead away. Never gonna happen….
May 5th, 2007 at 7:23 pm#109 - Briseadh na Faire,
I agree. But MA does not, so it will not happen.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:25 pm#3 Blows it: “Is this a surprise to anyone? It’s been the way of politics and politicians for centuries. They cheat, distort and lie at every chance possible….”
Emphatic no. Wheeling and dealing between elected reps is ok. _Government_ is _government_ and should never ever be a branch of the party. The last time that happened people woke up blinking amidst ruins. These guys need to be purged. Now. Or the next thing will be the armed forces having to swear an oath of allegiance to the president. That would do it, like totally.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:29 pmHi, BnF!
Long time…
Glad to see you again.
Shane,
Broadway musicals? Wow. Talented girl.
My 17 yo wants to write story lines for video games, (the non-violent kind. She’s adamant about that.)
so I know a more about Nintendo than most moms…
;)
May 5th, 2007 at 7:33 pmTau, (Zep) If that skank sees the inside of a jail cell for even one day, I’ll faint dead away. Never gonna happen….
Comment by Zooey
I dunno if she will or not. But it is fun pointing out the glaring hypocrisy of these folks =)
The first, by sociologists Neil Gross of Harvard and Solon Simmons of George Mason University, found that college professors are less religious than the general public but are far from the godless horde that is sometimes imagined. Even at the country’s 50 top research universities, a minority of the faculty is atheist or agnostic, Gross and Simmons found.
I wonder when the pundits pipers (MA and Jake types) are gonna ever figure out Rush and Coulter are just filling them full of fictional crap with their insane liberal rants that do nothing more than create hate and conflict where it did not exist before.
The “humor†that is posted here is always tinged with anger. And, if that is her, it explains her reactions to the Runes. -BNF
MA or V V listens to and reads way to much pundit propaganda and believes it. No wonder she’s angry. Most of the people who listen to reactionist pundits are.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:34 pmTau (Zep),
You got me, I wasn’t paying close enough attention. :)
May 5th, 2007 at 7:38 pmhttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/ huff-wires/ 20070504/ paris-hilton
Don’t commit yourself just yet, Zooey….
Looks like it’s gonna happen.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:38 pmEven at the country’s 50 top research universities, a minority of the faculty is atheist or agnostic, Gross and Simmons found.
Comment by Tau
Absolutely. I know many professional people — mostly lawyers, of course — who identify themselves as Christian, and attend church on a regular basis, but who also have a social conscience, understand the difference between science and faith, and are very good people. They’re not the “way out there” types we always hear about. In fact, I think most real Christians are not “way out there.”
May 5th, 2007 at 7:42 pmDon’t commit yourself just yet, Zooey….
Looks like it’s gonna happen.
Comment by trueblue
June 5 is a long way off, something will come up. I’ll believe it when I see her walk through the jail house doors, with her tiny designer bag. :D
May 5th, 2007 at 7:45 pmTau (Zep),
You got me, I wasn’t paying close enough attention. :)
Comment by Zooey
Heh. Usually you catch me out quickly.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:45 pmWassup Zooey?
They’re not the “way out there†types we always hear about. In fact, I think most real Christians are not “way out there.†-Z
Most of the ones around here are quite logical and don’t buy into the fanatical sky is falling, America is being destroyed political shock jock screed, in fact the only place I run into those types is on the internet and I live in a very red state.
May 5th, 2007 at 7:56 pmHeh. Usually you catch me out quickly.
Wassup Zooey?
Comment by Tau
I’m studying for finals next week. My brain is swimming…..in something. Heh.
This break has gone on longer than it should have…
May 5th, 2007 at 8:03 pmI’m studying for finals next week. My brain is swimming…..in something. Heh.This break has gone on longer than it should have…
Comment by Zooey
A little too much ’swimming’ eh? 8^P
May 5th, 2007 at 8:05 pmMost of the ones around here are quite logical and don’t buy into the fanatical sky is falling, America is being destroyed political shock jock screed, in fact the only place I run into those types is on the internet and I live in a very red state.
Comment by Tau
That’s true for me as well, and I’m in Idaho, as you know. We do have a bit of a concentration of whackos here, so I see them more than I’d like. I’m on the next block from the local fundie church, so I see them on Sundays. They’re very squeaky clean people, I’ve noticed. :D
May 5th, 2007 at 8:06 pmHi Shane!
Right on! Unless/until we rein in the evil propagandist corporate media monopolies, we cannot believe a thing we hear or read. It’s all highly edited and censored by BushCo. All one has to do is research some timely event on the internet and get the facts to know that tomorrow’s news will bear little to no resemblance to what facts you’ve just ascertained in your research. Likewise, if you’ve ever been interviewed by the press, what you’ve actually said and what is attributed to you the following day are two different things.
It’s clear that the sycophantic media whores need to be sent the clear signal from the american people that we are onto their divisive tactics, their flagrant propaganda, and their scheme to “rule the people”. The level of Fascism in this country right now is unbelievable.
I’ve been doing some research recently into the coal mining towns in eastern Pa….and how the monopolies and capitalistic blocs were running the show - with a very elite, rich & arrogant upper class and absolutely NO middle class. It was not until the United Mine Workers Union came on to the scene and organized the mine workers. They put their foot down and went on strike - essentially shutting down the mines for the rich conglomerate owners. Roosevelt had to intervene with his “Square Deal” to fight the capitalist monopolies in favor of the “working man”. I see such a parallel to what is transpiring today that it’s eerie! I’ve watched the demise of the labor unions and the rise of corporate monopolies…..then, without campaign finance reform, we’ve witnessed the “buying” of candidates, congressmen, and ultimately the white house administration - lock, stock & barrel.
Our middle class is eroding so swiftly that it will be gone in the blink of an eye unless something is done to bring this monster back under control. We produce little to nothing any longer in this country and have outsourced everything. We import our necessities from countries now found to be poisoning us, our children and our pets and have absolutely no idea where essential ingredients in our food supply come from. All of our Government Departments and Offices have “no clue” as to what their job is, are filled with cronies who are enjoying a “free ride” on the taxpayers money for their allegiance to Bush…..our borders are wide open, our illegal immigration situation is burdening our social services to the point of tanking them, and add to that a national debe we can’t even fathom beginning to repay…..when China decides to call this debt “due and payable”, it will finally be the end of the United States of America.
We can thank Bush and his cohorts for all of this. In 6 brief years, he has singlehandedly tanked this country…..a country which took 200 years to build and develop….tanked in 6 years by the “man who stole the presidency”. I guess it goes without saying that this country of “ill gotten gains” will soon be a third world country because of it. Karmic law in action!
May 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pmA little too much ’swimming’ eh? 8^P
Comment by Tau
No, actually the real “swimming” will occur Friday evening, after my last final exam. Then watch out, cuz I’m having two glasses of wine. Dangerous…. :D
May 5th, 2007 at 8:08 pmInteresting stuff on the topic of religion here tonight. I can’t add much because, personally, I believe that organized religion is the root of all evil. The genesis or kernel of truth in each (or at least how they all have begun) is the “golden rule” that all men are created equal and “do unto others”; however, in the mere parsing of beliefs of a particular sect, they begin isolating themselves and providing rationale as to why “their religion” is the “chosen one”…..which, at least in my mind, is totally hypocritical to the original basis or core belief. Of course, when one realizes that “religion” is the basis of a great many wars over the course of history, it further proves the point.
Interesting stuff though. For me the jury is still out as to what being “christian” actually means….following Jesus Christ is clear but beyond that….I’m not certain that with all of the many translations of the bible, what it was that Christ purported anyway? Obviously, he was a rebel and abhored the moneychangers in the temple but in watching the history channel, it’s clear that he became a “political liability” for the rulers at the time so……
Hi and happy weekend to all!
May 5th, 2007 at 8:14 pmSo. This is news? TP, I know you can do better!
May 5th, 2007 at 8:20 pmZooey. I’m out of the loop. What are you studying?
May 5th, 2007 at 8:22 pmSo. This is news? TP, I know you can do better!
Comment by paul
Apparently it’s news to you, paul.
Zooey. I’m out of the loop. What are you studying?
Comment by paul
Sociology major.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:24 pmApparently White House and Pentagon Officials were in Palfrey’s Little Black Book before they weren’t! Brian Ross said last night that there were no officials on the list - after ABC news said that there were. What gives here?? Some “hush money” perhaps? Just wondering if anyone else noticed the contradiction????
May 5th, 2007 at 8:28 pmI believe that organized religion is the root of all evil. -Veritas
I tend to doubt this. If religion were wiped out evil and wars would still be with mankind due to aforementioned hate, greed, control, resources and empire. =)
May 5th, 2007 at 8:34 pmWhen they want a “permanent majority”, while America is not a Republican country, what else could they do but break the law????
May 5th, 2007 at 8:36 pmOrganized religion simply offers its adherents an excuse to hate, control, plunder and exploit.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:37 pmJust wondering if anyone else noticed the contradiction????
Comment by veritas
Yupp. It’s happened before and I’m sure it will happen again.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:38 pmComment by Tau — May 5, 2007 @ 7:34 pm
But that is not the true source of her anger. That is what she uses to mask her true anger, and, pain.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:41 pmZooey. Sociology major. Nice. Hey, BTW, am I crazy?
May 5th, 2007 at 8:44 pmOrganized religion simply offers its adherents an excuse to hate, control, plunder and exploit.
Comment by Raven
Sadly mankind would do that without religion. The industrial era in our country did all those things in the name of profit.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:46 pmTau. I have believed that organized religion is the cause of most war/conflict. But, you’re probably right. If the religions didn’t exist, people would still find a reason to fight.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:47 pmHey, BTW, am I crazy?
Comment by paul
I am not qualified to answer that question, paul. If you’re concerned, you should enter intensive psychological counseling. They’ll let you know.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:49 pmBut that is not the true source of her anger. That is what she uses to mask her true anger, and, pain.
Comment by Briseadh na Faire
Only MA could say for sure I spose. Hopefully they will find that anger and hate are emotions they shouldn’t allow to control them.
May 5th, 2007 at 8:53 pmIt started way long before the industrial age in this country….
May 5th, 2007 at 8:55 pmMy observation of religion being used as an excuse is only one example of mankinds base animal nature which it has not evolved out of yet….
Tau. I have believed that organized religion is the cause of most war/conflict. But, you’re probably right. If the religions didn’t exist, people would still find a reason to fight.
Comment by paul
Agreed. Mankinds worst enemy and his most prized trait is his emotions and desires.
May 5th, 2007 at 9:01 pmI really hope I see the day that this f****ing Turd Blossom is brought to Justice. This evil, evil man has brought more damage to this county than we probably we are aware of.
He’s this generation’s Joseph Goebbel.
How this man sleeps at night — I’ll never know.
May 5th, 2007 at 9:43 pmPeople, stop engaging MAF54. He doesn’t believe a word he’s saying, if it isn’t obvious. Nobody could take on a pedophile’s handle and say the things he is with a straight face. He is derailing the on-topic discussion–ignore him.
May 5th, 2007 at 10:02 pmNatteringNabob, I agree. it’s just so much fun to put him in her/his place. I do wonder why s/he comes here. There’s absolutely no coherent, consistent meaningful political content in anything this individual posts.
If this person is a rightie, what else does s/he have to fight w/? The BushCo/GOP cabal is going down in flames so bad it makes the Hindenberg seem like a weinie roast.
May 5th, 2007 at 10:12 pmAnd so why are these people not IMPEACHED?
May 5th, 2007 at 11:09 pmThink Progress . . . ?
What happened to political discourse? If religion is where your heart is, go elsewhere.
We’ve got soldiers dying and democracy at risk . . . it may be Saturday night, but . . . .Think . . .
Fiasco, by Thomas E. Ricks, p. 102
. . . Garner was looking for someone who had assembled the facts and knew all the players in the U.S.government community, and international organizations, and had considered the second- and third-order consequences of possible actions. While everyone else was struggling for the facts, he had a dozen binders, tabbed and indexed, on every aspect of Iraqi society, from how electricity was generated to how the poor of Basra refugee community, someone from the Iraqi refugee community, operated, recalled other participants.
. . . .
“How do you know all this?†Garner asked.
“I’ve been working on it for years,†Warwick said.
“Come to work for me on Monday, “ Garner said. Warrick did.
“But it wouldn’t be easy to keep him.â€
….
A FEW DAYS LATER:
[Rumsfield, according to Garner] . . . “You’ve got two people working for you, - Warrick and [Meghan] O’Sullivan – that you must get rid of.†(Id., p.l 103).
“Rumsfield said it was out to his hands. ‘This comes from such a level that I can’t do anything about it.,†he said according to Garner. That could mean only one thing: The purge had been ordered by someone at the White House, and not just from some underling of the staff of the National Security Counsel. . . .“
“When Powell got word of the ouster of Warrick and O’Sullivan, he called Rumsfield and asked ‘What the hell is going on?’ Rumsfield responded that the work of post war planning had to be done by people devoted to the task who supported the policy.â€
[Next subchapter: “Garner tyo Feith: Shut up or Fire Me†p. 104]
“On March 11, . . .We intend to immediately start turning things over . . . As for the Iraqi military, ‘a good portion’ would be useful to work in the reconstruction of the country.’ ‘Using army allows us to not to demobilize . . . and put a lot of people on the street.’
. . . The undersecretary of defense for policy was livid with him afterwards for his attitude towards Chalabi
[March 12] Rumsfield asks Garner “What are you going to do for de-Bathication?â€
Long story short. . . discussions w/in a couple of weeks w/Ryan Henry:
‘’’The whole damn list is a glitch’, snarled Garner.â€
“â€â€™Well, the White House wants to put in some of their own people,’ Henry said, according to Garner.â€
. . . .
“. . . ‘Look’ Hughes said, ‘This is the good, the bad and the ugly.’ The good is what Garner’s group had done. The bad was that there was going to be a war.’ But the ugly is the shenanigans that are going on inside the Beltway between State and Defense.’ [Di Rita denies the conversation].
****Prescient comment]
p. 111, 2
. . . Because it so underestimated the task at hand, it didn’t send a well-trained, coherent team of professionals, but rather an odd collection of youthful Republican campaign workers and other novices. . . . . .
“
Fiasco, by Thomas E. Ricks, p. 102
. . . Garner was looking for someone who had assembled the facts and knew all the players in the U.S.government community, and international organizations, and had considered the second- and third-order consequences of possible actions. While everyone else was struggling for the facts, he had a dozen binders, tabbed and indexed, on every aspect of Iraqi society, from how electricity was generated to how the poor of Basra refugee community, someone from the Iraqi refugee community, operated, recalled other participants.
. . . .
“How do you know all this?†Garner asked.
“I’ve been working on it for years,†Warwick said.
“Come to work for me on Monday, “ Garner said. Warrick did.
“But it wouldn’t be easy to keep him.â€
….
A FEW DAYS LATER:
[Rumsfield, according to Garner] . . . “You’ve got two people working for you, - Warrick and [Meghan] O’Sullivan – that you must get rid of.†(Id., p.l 103).
“Rumsfield said it was out to his hands. ‘This comes from such a level that I can’t do anything about it.,†he said according to Garner. That could mean only one thing: The purge had been ordered by someone at the White House, and not just from some underling of the staff of the National Security Counsel. . . .“
“When Powell got word of the ouster of Warrick and O’Sullivan, he called Rumsfield and asked ‘What the hell is going on?’ Rumsfield responded that the work of post war planning had to be done by people devoted to the task who supported the policy.â€
[Next subchapter: “Garner tyo Feith: Shut up or Fire Me†p. 104]
“On March 11, . . .We intend to immediately start turning things over . . . As for the Iraqi military, ‘a good portion’ would be useful to work in the reconstruction of the country.’ ‘Using army allows us to not to demobilize . . . and put a lot of people on the street.’
. . . The undersecretary of defense for policy was livid with him afterwards for his attitude towards Chalabi
[March 12] Rumsfield asks Garner “What are you going to do for de-Bathication?â€
Long story short. . . discussions w/in a couple of weeks w/Ryan Henry:
‘’’The whole damn list is a glitch’, snarled Garner.â€
“â€â€™Well, the White House wants to put in some of their own people,’ Henry said, according to Garner.â€
. . . .
“. . . ‘Look’ Hughes said, ‘This is the good, the bad and the ugly.’ The good is what Garner’s group had done. The bad was that there was going to be a war.’ But the ugly is the shenanigans that are going on inside the Beltway between State and Defense.’ [Di Rita denies the conversation].
****Prescient comment]
p. 111, 2
. . . Because it so underestimated the task at hand, it didn’t send a well-trained, coherent team of professionals, but rather an odd collection of youthful Republican campaign workers and other novices. . . . . .
“
Fiasco, by Thomas E. Ricks, p. 102
. . . Garner was looking for someone who had assembled the facts and knew all the players in the U.S.government community, and international organizations, and had considered the second- and third-order consequences of possible actions. While everyone else was struggling for the facts, he had a dozen binders, tabbed and indexed, on every aspect of Iraqi society, from how electricity was generated to how the poor of Basra refugee community, someone from the Iraqi refugee community, operated, recalled other participants.
. . . .
“How do you know all this?†Garner asked.
“I’ve been working on it for years,†Warwick said.
“Come to work for me on Monday, “ Garner said. Warrick did.
“But it wouldn’t be easy to keep him.â€
….
A FEW DAYS LATER:
[Rumsfield, according to Garner] . . . “You’ve got two people working for you, - Warrick and [Meghan] O’Sullivan – that you must get rid of.†(Id., p.l 103).
“Rumsfield said it was out to his hands. ‘This comes from such a level that I can’t do anything about it.,†he said according to Garner. That could mean only one thing: The purge had been ordered by someone at the White House, and not just from some underling of the staff of the National Security Counsel. . . .“
“When Powell got word of the ouster of Warrick and O’Sullivan, he called Rumsfield and asked ‘What the hell is going on?’ Rumsfield responded that the work of post war planning had to be done by people devoted to the task who supported the policy.â€
[Next subchapter: “Garner tyo Feith: Shut up or Fire Me†p. 104]
“On March 11, . . .We intend to immediately start turning things over . . . As for the Iraqi military, ‘a good portion’ would be useful to work in the reconstruction of the country.’ ‘Using army allows us to not to demobilize . . . and put a lot of people on the street.’
. . . The undersecretary of defense for policy was livid with him afterwards for his attitude towards Chalabi
[March 12] Rumsfield asks Garner “What are you going to do for de-Bathication?â€
Long story short. . . discussions w/in a couple of weeks w/Ryan Henry:
‘’’The whole damn list is a glitch’, snarled Garner.â€
“â€â€™Well, the White House wants to put in some of their own people,’ Henry said, according to Garner.â€
. . . .
“. . . ‘Look’ Hughes said, ‘This is the good, the bad and the ugly.’ The good is what Garner’s group had done. The bad was that there was going to be a war.’ But the ugly is the shenanigans that are going on inside the Beltway between State and Defense.’ [Di Rita denies the conversation].
****Prescient comment]
p. 111, 2
. . . Because it so underestimated the task at hand, it didn’t send a well-trained, coherent team of professionals, but rather
May 5th, 2007 at 11:11 pmAnd so why are these people not IMPEACHED?
Comment by teak
Teak, I suspect it’s because the Dems don’t have the votes to do it until enough Repubs find their moral cores and come over… to… the… Light.
As long as Repub Reps and Sens don’t want to admit how badly their Pres and side in general has screwed the pooch over the last 6.5 yrs, they can pretty much bolix any impeachment attempt by the Dems for obstinence’s sake alone.
However, if the Pres continues to stay the course and establish ever newer lows for bad performance on the job, we may get there yet.
May 5th, 2007 at 11:24 pmI utterly and wholeheartedly commend ThinkProgress for this essential and long overdue report. This crony, nepitistic, inbreading corruptness of these hacks must be pasted all over the mainstream media. If the MSM has a shred of usefulness or value in it, it will run with this glorious report, but alas, I won’t hold my breath. May Natural Selection bless ThinkProgress.
May 5th, 2007 at 11:36 pmI’ve been doing some research recently into the coal mining towns in eastern Pa….and how the monopolies and capitalistic blocs were running the show - with a very elite, rich & arrogant upper class and absolutely NO middle class
Comment by veritas — May 5, 2007 @ 8:08 pm
What’s really weird is when I worked for the investment banking firm it was on financing of coal mines in Pennsylvania. And projects were financed by General Electric Credit Corportation with the same parent company as NBC. Which is why the trolls talking about the liberal media makes me crazy.
If people would realize that even reality television is cast with actors and scripted they would realize that nothing is as it seems. Everything Bush and his people do or talk about is completely orchestrated so as to manipulate us into submission.
Progressives seem to grasp this fact, trolls on the other hand are completely deluded by the dog and pony show
May 5th, 2007 at 11:43 pmRove is about to crash and burn. The good thing is that he will bring the Grand Old Perverts down with him.
May 5th, 2007 at 11:48 pmI am the dawg, the bi - ig bad doo - aa - awwg, the boun - ty hunt - er/
May 6th, 2007 at 12:28 amWe need a de-Bush-ification program!
May 6th, 2007 at 1:43 amFor a full accounting of Karls actions and methods, go here:
http://plungerspeaks.blogspot.com
May 6th, 2007 at 7:26 amace:
I read the “full accounting” but still don’t see his violation of federal law — IF something like the Hatch Act was violated, then I would agree that Mr. Rove should be prosecuted — until then, all’s fair in love and politics.
May 6th, 2007 at 9:37 amVV=vacuous vulva (ie. stupid c*nt)
May 6th, 2007 at 9:56 am