No I dont – our country could be trillions of dollars richer in Oil money If not for the conduct of our troops on the battlefield if we had respected and helped the Iraqis then left a sovereign country almost intact

Thats why I hate our troops they lost the war, they were nothing but cold blooded morons that have cost us everything

Comment by Baboo — May 6, 2007 @ 2:34 pm

Ah, Baboon, this is the line offered by all neo-cons covering their butts. “It’s not the war, it’s the management.” Well, it’s a crock. There was no reason to attack Iraq except oil and no way to get “trillions of dollars richer” than to occupy Iraq for decades.

And you, Baboon, are a cretin if you think it was the troops that lost the war. That’s what gives you away as a Rumsfeld bootlick. The troops knew they were below proper numbers, without proper armor, and without proper support and training. They’ve done their best under the circumstances. But they have no clear mission, no clear objective.

Except that jackasses like Baboon want them to take the fall for their poor judgement.

Comment by Jake

So it’s like the old stewardess joke when she agrees to sex for $1,000,000 but refuses for $5.00.

We’ve established what you are, we’re just haggeling over price……

Comment by Jake —

Your comment reminds me of the old joke about the stewardess
agreeing to sex for$1,000,000.

We’ve established what you are…. now we’re haggeling over prices.

Thats why I hate our troops they lost the war, they were nothing but cold blooded morons that have cost us everything

Our Soldiers finished our country – Bush lied Ok but we lost the war though the actions of these morons on the battlefield

Comment by Baboo — May 6, 2007 @ 2:03 pm

So Baboo we can assume you work at the White House then.

Our Soldiers finished our country – Bush lied Ok but we lost the war though the actions of these morons on the battlefield

Urinating on detainees
Jumping on detainee’s leg (a limb already wounded by gunfire) with such force that it could not thereafter heal properly
Continuing by pounding detainee’s wounded leg with collapsible metal baton
Pouring phosphoric acid on detainees
Sodomization of detainees with a baton
Tying ropes to the detainees’ legs or penises and dragging them across the floor.

Sergeant Samuel Provance from Alpha Company 302nd Military Intelligence battalion, in interviews with several news agencies, reported the sexual abuse of a 16-year-old girl by two interrogators, as well as a 16-year-old son of an Iraqi general, who was driven through the cold night air on the open back of a truck after he had been showered and besmeared with mud in order to get his father to talk.[9] He also pointed out several techniques used by interrogators that have been identified as being in violation of the Geneva Convention. He spoke to the media, even against direct orders, about what he knew about at the prison (largely from conversations and interactions with the interrogators). He explained that he did so because there was “definitely a cover-up” underway by the Army. He was administratively flagged and had his top secret clearance suspended in retaliation by the Army. A detailed statement by Sergeant Provance concerning these and numerous other abuses at Abu Ghraib and his treatment by the army is available.[10]

you cannot blame George Bush he was not even there – its easy to blame the neocons – But lets face it they were not present

These soldiers of ours are the lowest form of human life and deserve everything they get

– Ivan Frederick

next

Sgt. Ivan Frederick sitting on an Iraqi detainee between two stretchers

these soldiers deserve to die in Iraq and be left in the gutter to be eaten by Dogs – thats what happens to Iraqis a lot of the time

Quotes from a prisoner

They said we will make you wish to die and it will not happen They stripped me naked. One of them told me he would rape me. He drew a picture of a woman to my back and makes me stand in shameful position holding my buttocks.

Ameen Saeed Al-Sheik, detainee No. 151362,

‘Do you pray to Allah?’ one asked. I said yes. They said, ‘[Expletive] you. And [expletive] him.’ One of them said, ‘You are not getting out of here health[y], you are getting out of here handicapped. And he said to me, ‘Are you married?’ I said, ‘Yes.’ They said, ‘If your wife saw you like this, she will be disappointed.’ One of them said, ‘But if I saw her now she would not be disappointed now because I would rape her.’” [...] “They ordered me to thank Jesus that I’m alive.” [...] “I said to him, ‘I believe in Allah.’ So he said, ‘But I believe in torture and I will torture you.’

– Ameen Saeed Al-Sheik,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse

The soldiers who are fighting in Iraq are not heroes. The true heroes are people like Lt. Watada and members of the IVAW [Iraq Veterans Against the War] and those in the book Mission Rejected, whose subtitle defines who they are: U.S. Soldiers who say NO to Iraq. The best way to support the troops is to bring them home-now.

I agree with your assessment of Baboon, he will no doubtedly turn right around and post on Red State under a different name to show how wacky the progressives are.

There are really only about three trolls who post here constantly, but they name-shift often. I think Baboon is the nom du jour of the Patrick1/ Firehead/michael troll.

TP – please ban Baboo, in all of his multiple personalities.

The purpose of people like Baboon is to malign and slander everyone so as to discredit the liberal/progressive movement. They are, in fact, agent provocateurs.

The ones that have blood on their hands, and hopefully (but doubtfully) their conscience are the Bush administration and all their supporters. I would hope that they have recurring nightmares of drowning in blood of soldiers and Iraqis.

Your hatred towards the soldiers is misdirected, look up Jake, Patrick1, Firehead, Venerealvenus…. whatever name the sycophantic whores are posting under today, and take out your rage on their asses.

I agree with david, Bush and his supporters are the real enemies of our country. Our weapons are the truth and our vote. If they continue to obfuscate the truth, and if they steal our votes again, then we would have to load the magazines and go after them, but it won’t come to that.

If it does, I have dubs on Jake.

or try

http://mindprod.com/politics/iraqwarpix.html#IRAQWARPIX

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