Tancredo on immigration:
By on May 6th, 2007 at 2:36 pm
Tancredo on immigration:
At a private gathering on Friday, Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) told supporters that immigration is “an issue that is so much broader than all that, so much more serious. It is the issue of our culture itself, and whether we will survive.”
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Uh, Mr. Tancredo?
May 6th, 2007 at 2:43 pmThe particular culture you belong to is creeping over the edge of its petri dish………….
What Tancredo really means to say is lets put immigration on the front burner so people won’t talk about Iraq, the weak dollar, national debt, high energy prices, etc. etc., etc. Tancredo is a racist asshat. He has no chance of becoming president.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:45 pmI will never understand this mentality. I don’t think there should be any borders, anywhere. We’re all in this together, dammit.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pm“The particular culture you belong to is creeping over the edge of its petri dish………….
Comment by Raven — May 6, 2007 @ 2:43 pm”
LOL!
May 6th, 2007 at 2:50 pmMind you, it seems he’s talking about legal immigration. This man is a complete racist, as well as an idiot.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:51 pmas someone with an unfortunate personal tancredo experience, let me state without reservation that the man is a clinically obsessive, hate-filled bigot with no compunctions whatsoever about disrupting and destroying the lives of those toward whom his hatred is directed… he is a truly pathetic excuse for a human being…
May 6th, 2007 at 2:52 pmAnd, yes, I DO take it personally
What Tancredo really meant: “Darn straight, how are Godly, real Christians supposed to out breed the brown people thereby maintaining our whitebread majority and proselytize those cultist Catholics if criminal Mexicans are swarming across the border by the millions.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:54 pmComment by Zooey — May 6, 2007 @ 2:51 pm
Hi Z, I belive I still owe you a dinner from an earlier thread. Unless that was all empty promises… :-)
May 6th, 2007 at 3:00 pmSeems he’s taking an awful personal risk, wandering around down there in the Arizona desert……….
May 6th, 2007 at 3:01 pm(not that I really care much, he can go wherever the hell he wants, it’s still a free country, for now..
sort of… maybe…. I hope…..
Massive IllegalImmigration is a strong indicator of massive PoliticalCorruption: it wouldn’t occur if our politicians were doing their jobs. It is also leading us closer and closer to the NorthAmericanUnion: the U.S., Canada, and Mexico being joined into an EU-style superstate. So, he’s right about that.
As for Beslan, terrorists have already infiltrated the U.S. over the deliberately porous border. Odd how no Dem leaders have said anything about that.
As for profmarcus’, I believe he’s indicated in the past that he’s friends with someone from the Mexican consulate, and he’s refering to an incident where the Denver Post collaborated with the Mexican government to push illegal immigration.
May 6th, 2007 at 3:06 pmAs a descendant of the Papist Irish, who arrived any damn way they could, built the railroads, bridges and mills in New England while threatening “the culture”, and then discriminated in their turn against the Italian “guinea ditch diggers” who built the reservoirs and dug for the pipelines so the Yankees could bathe, while threatening “the culture” of their own time, and so on, and so on…it seems to me that it is long past time to pay any attention to a true threat to the country like Mr. Tancredo, who wouldn’t understand “culture” if it bit him on the ass…he’s one we could profitably send back, if anyone would have him…
May 6th, 2007 at 3:33 pmOur immigration problem began with the Reagan administration. The illegal hiring of the undocumented was enforced until then. With Reagan, a blind eye was turned concerning those illegally hiring and reaping the profits – and still is. What a mess a couple of decades of breaking the law has brught.
May 6th, 2007 at 3:36 pmSays the Stegoceras to the Dyoplosaurus. Good thing evolution is not necessary here for this crowd.
May 6th, 2007 at 3:37 pmI agree with the fact that any illegal aliens hurt all US Citizens at all times. I agree that illegal aliens allowed to by-pass the rule of law trivialize the law itself and damage the entire US economy.
Regarding what Tancredo believes I can’t comment since I don’t know what that is however what he said quoted above is true. It is a broad issue and quite serious. It is a cultural issue since illegal(s) do not learn the language, the history and do not get medical exams for TB and other diseases.
Taxpaying American Citizens are burdened with extra costs and often are victims of identity theft. There are so many negative issues created by breaking the law that this post does not even scratch the surface.
May 6th, 2007 at 3:47 pmI will never understand this mentality. I don’t think there should be any borders, anywhere. We’re all in this together, dammit.
Comment by John H. Farr — May 6, 2007 @ 2:49 pm
Are you on drugs?
May 6th, 2007 at 3:49 pmRead my Op/Ed on the immigration issue and a better solution:
blog.bi30.org
May 6th, 2007 at 4:18 pm.
I think the more important question is:
Will we survive the repugliCons and the chimpy administration?
They seem hell bent on ruining our country.
Why do the NeoCons hate America so much?
OK, that’s two questions…but I’m just sayin.
May 6th, 2007 at 5:09 pmLet’s hear it for ethnic cleansing. Oh btw what kind of a name is Tancredo anyway?
May 6th, 2007 at 6:23 pmSo, I don’t get it. Why are these immigrant illegal, exactly? I mean, isn’t this how America stole Ohio, California, and Hawaii? By illegal immigration?
And as a Canadian, I really don’t get these allusions to a unified North America. Is this some Right Wing paranoia? ‘Cuz it’s completely off the radar up here.
Canada and the USA have the longest undefended border in the world. And it may be hard to understand, but nobody up here wants to be American. I mean, why would we give up our freedoms?
I should point out that the Mayflower was crammed with illegal immigrants. Their charter was for an area near New Jersey –Plymouth Rock was definitely off limits. Mind you, they were WASPs and so getting an amnesty from the King was a piece of cake.
May 6th, 2007 at 7:55 pmOnly about a hundred years ago, people were complaining about immigrants with names like “Tancredo.”
Hey, go back to Italy, paisan!
May 6th, 2007 at 8:43 pmWhat he means is immigration is the most important issue to his re-election. Considering most the voters in his pathetic little constituency are a bunch of xenophobic inbreds I think he wins in a landslide.
May 6th, 2007 at 9:23 pmTancredo is clinically insane.
By the way, would someone remind him that his Italian ancestors were not exactly welcomed in the US at some point? That they were considered dirty, stupid, and lazy? Does the word “dago” mean anything to that jerk?
May 6th, 2007 at 9:48 pmIt’s more an issue of whether he will survive rather than our collective survival. As our country’s demographics continually adjust, as they have throughout its history, xenophobes like Tancredo will find themselves ever increasingly unwelcome.
AF
May 6th, 2007 at 10:01 pmAF, I doubt that. Xenophobia and racism is a strong basic instinct. Somehow I don’t think we have evolved near enough for me to believe it won’t be a strong force for many years to come.
May 6th, 2007 at 10:23 pmTancredo is a terrorist. He is trying to rule by instilling fear.
May 6th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI want to know if he cried and blamed Satan.
May 7th, 2007 at 12:13 amMerlallen, you want to know if he blamed himself?
May 7th, 2007 at 12:47 amJPark, I agree. Xenophobia is indeed a powerful thing. A certain component may very well be hard-wired into our DNA. I’m may be a cynical, fatalistic bastard but I sincerely believe we due for a paradigm change. Sheer numbers and rational citizens will turn the tide — until history cycles back around again and lays another another bunch of Tancredos or McCarthys on us. By that time the original Tancredo will be washed up.
AF
If Broken Still Strong.
May 7th, 2007 at 12:53 amI sure hope you are right AF. I just don’t think you are. I think most people are racist pricks. White power and all that crap.
May 7th, 2007 at 1:15 amMeh. If he can’t find some way to connect immigrants with Satan, I just tune out.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:47 amI am so sick of being called a racist and a xenophobe because I strongly disagree with illegal immigration. Illegal immigration is a serious economic issue, and we’re going to have many hard years ahead if we accept 12 million and more illegal immigrants into the U.S. permanently. I can’t believe how many progressives blindly follow whatever their Democratic politicians tell them to believe, without thinking it through, and I am a lifelong Progressive. On this issue, people are going against their own best interests. Mexico is NOT a poor country. It can be a booming economy if politicans would care more about fair wages for Mexico’s citizens. Immigrants may have built railroads (legal immigrants, that is), but if you look around, there aren’t any good-paying railroad jobs, anymore. I just wish people would get away from this herd mentality and think beyond the “feel-good” aspect of illegal immigration.
May 7th, 2007 at 7:33 amIllegal immigration is not an economic problem, midwestblue. What is an economic problem is a blind faith in Free Trade with Red China. Why send so many good American jobs to a country that offers nothing to its workers and has such a horrible environmental record and thinks nothing of manufacturing pirated goods or poisoned pet food and children’s cough syrup.
Free Trade should be used as a tool to bring up the standards of developing countries. No Free Trade without workers’ rights, environmental protection, and proper inspection of manufactured goods. This will make American factories compare favorably with Southeast Asia.
The problem isn’t illegal immigrants; the problem is crooked employers. Your attitude is no different than the White Trash attitude toward the freed slaves in the 1800s. The law is meant to temper reality, but clearly the law doesn’t reflect reality at all. If all American business are producing is Third World jobs, it is no wonder that only Third World citizens are willing to take them. Fix the Trade problem and immigration will take care of itself.
May 7th, 2007 at 8:22 amI’m with you, midwestblue. I’m not going to be dissuaded from speaking out loudly and often against this human tide. It’s not a matter of culture, it’s a matter of economics.
I don’t blame the people coming here one bit. I blame their government and their version of “Republicans.” The disparity between the haves and have-nots in Mexico should give all the right wing zipperheads a glimpse of what’s going to happen here if we allow ourselves to be goverened in the interest of the wealthy few — the difference of course being that we won’t have any place to run to find gainful employment.
I really don’t care what anyone calls me. I’m for the American worker first, last, and always. This is core to a progressive philosophy. That includes Mexican-Americans, African-Americans, or whatever other way a citizen identifies themselves. What I’m not for is the systematic depression of wages and benefits by a government-encouraged imbalance in the supply/demand equilibrium for labor. It’s not just illegal laborers: same goes for H1B visas in more skilled positions. And for providing incentives for companies to off-shore their operations.
It’s all got to stop, and my view is that anyone who thinks otherwise is hardly on the side of our working class. Further, facilitating the widespread abuse of the Mexican worker is not extending compassion to the downtrodden. That energy would be better spent putting pressure on Mexico for reform.
We need fair trade, not free trade. And we need to clamp down on employers, not abuse the people trying to make an honest living. If we send several meat packing and construction company CEOs to prison for a decade or so, maybe other employers will get the message and stop hiring illegals to make a quick buck. If we did that, we wouldn’t want a fence, because a fence would only serve to slow down the massive migration back to Mexico. How do we deport twelve million illegal immigrants? If we did this, we’d need to deport no one.
But don’t hold your breath: Republicans want the cheap labor and campaign contributions from the corporations doing the hiring, and Democrats want to grant the illegal immigrants citizenship to get their votes. The working US citizen trying to send their kids to college is left holding the bag. Yet again. And the so-called “liberals” who care not for their plight in this matter are at best misguided, or at worst, running their own little racist agenda.
May 7th, 2007 at 8:25 amUnder the 13th Amendment slavery & involuntary servitude however these days we see indentured servitude as a thriving business for the wealthy. A rich man can import a Russian wife and get an English nanny for a reasonable price. These people are fast tracked into citizenship.
One could say that illegal immigrants (combined with those they serve) help in breaking unions, inflate social service costs (like emergency care), trivialize laws, raise insurance premiums and a whole host of other damaging realities.
Section #1 of the 14th Amendment defines who the Constitution protects. “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States” This clearly stated who the law protects, who the law can deport and who must live by the law.
The last part of Section #1 of the 14th Amendment explains in more detail that, “nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” This says that no matter who you are, when you are arrested you will get due process. In a nutshell you get your speedy trial and your phone call.
The 14th Amendment establishes the INS to regulate all aliens. If you don’t have status you get your due process and deported since circumventing immigration laws is not a protected act in the Constitution. Those that would raise the pre-industrial mass immigrations must realize that immigrant quotas were issued by law and filled. Many of our great grandparents were part of this influx.
Lawful entry is something we should all want. Should economic, social, ethical or any other reasons dictate we have the duty to limit or stop all immigration activities till such a time as to when immigration will not create hardship for American citizens in blood or naturalized through lawful immigration.
Many here will use what Tancredo has said as a weapon to gain support for those that will ignore the rule of law and those that violate the rights of the citizens who are protected under the 14th Amendment. The moral, physical and economical damage caused to citizens protected by the 14th Amendment is SEVERE!
May 7th, 2007 at 8:37 amUnder the 13th Amendment slavery & involuntary servitude however these days we see indentured servitude as a thriving business for the wealthy
Shis should read:
May 7th, 2007 at 8:54 amUnder the 13th Amendment slavery & involuntary servitude WERE OUTLAWED, however these days we see indentured servitude as a thriving business for the wealthy
So, I don’t get it. Why are these immigrant illegal, exactly? I mean, isn’t this how America stole Ohio, California, and Hawaii? By illegal immigration?
And as a Canadian, I really don’t get these allusions to a unified North America. Is this some Right Wing paranoia? ‘Cuz it’s completely off the radar up here.
Canada and the USA have the longest undefended border in the world. And it may be hard to understand, but nobody up here wants to be American. I mean, why would we give up our freedoms?
I should point out that the Mayflower was crammed with illegal immigrants. Their charter was for an area near New Jersey –Plymouth Rock was definitely off limits. Mind you, they were WASPs and so getting an amnesty from the King was a piece of cake.
Comment by david — May 6, 2007 @ 7:55 pm
As a Canadian you do not have the US Constitution. Soon David Canada, the USA and Mexico will all have the same currency (say it ain’t so) called “The Amero Dollar”…
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=15017
Soon, Canada, America and Mexico will have the NASCO trade corridor…
http://www.nascocorridor.com/
Is this why the INS laws in the USA are not being enforced??
May 7th, 2007 at 9:16 amSaywho, hang on to your tinfoil hat, I hear you’re not in Kansas any more. I’m sorry, maybe you ought to check with Canada before you start quoting neo-con nonsense about “Amero” dollars. I’m sorry, but that idea would never fly up here. It’s a desperate attempt by the neo-cons to hide the fact that they’ve trashed the US$. Check out the exchange rates today, Saywho. The US$ is a worthless scrap of paper.
And, as for some goofy Nasco corridor, that’s a laugh. Since 9/11 the border has become a major nightmare. And with gasoline at $3+/gallon, don’t expect trucking to be the prefered form of transport. And why are US rails in such bad repair? Don’t ask me. It seems to me that America ain’t much interested in trade of any kind.
If you were seriously concerned with immigration from Mexico, perhaps you wouldn’t be so supportive of frauds such as Calderon and Uribe. Yes, it is Fair Trade that is important. But don’t expect it if you bribe Latin American governments into allowing farm land to be bought up to produce ethanol instead of food.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:38 am“Taxpaying American Citizens are burdened with extra costs and often are victims of identity theft. There are so many negative issues created by breaking the law that this post does not even scratch the surface.”
So Saywho, what do you say about the employers who are breaking the law by giving the undocumented aliens a job in the first place. They would not be coming here if there were not jobs for them. And as far as them overburdening us, wait until they are no longer here and you have to pay triple the price for your fruits, vegetables and many other products. Your statement about identity theft is laughable. I would be willing to bet that 99% of the identity theft in this country is committed by your lily white brethren.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:42 amComment by david — May 7, 2007 @ 9:38 am
The NASCO agreement is a done deal and the road, rail and pipe system is being constructed.
The Amero is also in the works…
http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Amero&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1
You make it sound like I made this stuff up, eh! I’m as angry as you by the way but don’t take it out on me since all you have to add to this are some personal opinions. I’m sure that you David speak for your government LOL
PAX
May 7th, 2007 at 9:50 am#33–Trippin
May 7th, 2007 at 9:55 amYour comment: “But don’t hold your breath: Republicans want the cheap labor and campaign contributions from the corporations doing the hiring, and Democrats want to grant the illegal immigrants citizenship to get their votes.” I believe that’s it in a nutshell.
My spouse believes that eventually the wages of working Americans will be lowered and the wages of others in this world will increase, until the wages of working people in this world will be about the same (we’ll all be working in order meet our daily living expenses, with nothing left over). Of course, the wealthy few will make more and more money until we have a permanent upper-upper class. With H1B visas, a huge influx of immigration, and outsourcing, it has already started (under this administration, it has flourished).
“Taxpaying American Citizens are burdened with extra costs and often are victims of identity theft. There are so many negative issues created by breaking the law that this post does not even scratch the surface.â€
So Saywho, what do you say about the employers who are breaking the law by giving the undocumented aliens a job in the first place. They would not be coming here if there were not jobs for them. And as far as them overburdening us, wait until they are no longer here and you have to pay triple the price for your fruits, vegetables and many other products. Your statement about identity theft is laughable. I would be willing to bet that 99% of the identity theft in this country is committed by your lily white brethren.
Comment by Kate Henry — May 7, 2007 @ 9:42 am
I made a post @ May 7, 2007 @ 8:37 am and it makes it clear as to what my opinion is. Your racist post above only states a few communistic views that you have. The costs of goods in the USA are based on ENERGY. I mentioned in my last post and in many other posts that INS Laws must be ENFORCED. That includes all of those laws not some of them like deportation visas and enforcing labor laws.
Based on your anger and racial comment “lily white” one can conclude that you are a moron at best.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:08 amWell, Saywho, I don’t see anything about the Canadian government being interested in the Amero. And no 8 land highways are being built here. Indeed, we’re already debating whether to impose restrictions on water exports and your government’s requirement that we carry passports to cross the border has everyone up here feeling very anti-American.
This corridor sounds more like pork barrel asphalt than anything else. The CND$ is inching up to par with the US$, which was last seen in the mid-1970s. I know you’re not making this up, but you are gullible. You have the whole internet to search, so you might try checking out non-American news sites. The Amero is dead in the water up here. And what do I care if you Yanks build ugly 8 lane highways across the mid-West? It doesn’t mean we’ll be shipping stuff on it unless there’s a profit to be made. And with your weak dollar, we’ve got better offers coming from Europe.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:23 amSo Saywho, what do you say about the employers who are breaking the law by giving the undocumented aliens a job in the first place.
Comment by Kate Henry — May 7, 2007 @ 9:42 am
Kate, what you are doing by using the embolden phrase above “undocumented aliens” is changing the nature of the violation of INS law enforced or not. “Illegal alien†has more impact since it specifics exactly what sort of alien we are talking about. Illegal alien is not a racial phrase and simply designates a status. Your phrase “undocumented alien” creates a false ambiguity since the truth is that to be UNDOCUMENTED is to be UNLAWFUL.
The 14th Amendment makes it clear that all aliens will be regulated by the establishment of the INS. Prices of goods in the nation are regulated in an entirely different way. Communists, like you, insist that employers don’t have to obey labor laws since they the employers would not be able to make the highest possible margin of profit while at the same time breaking several laws!
May 7th, 2007 at 10:43 amComment by david — May 7, 2007 @ 10:23 am
David what it means is that your attitude and personality is simply argumentative. Again, you suggest that, “I know you’re not making this up, but you are gullible.” The expression goes, “Everything before the BUT is BULLSH*T!” So David, what I’m saying is that according to everything that I have read and the many video clips I have watched regarding NASCO and the Amero Dollar these items and the “Common Defense” are all well under way as part of the NAFTA Treaty that is best summed up like this…
Since NAFTA has already been implemented your argument is completely voided!
PAX
May 7th, 2007 at 10:57 amtancredo is exactly right. This country is already reduced to third-world status with Mexican drug gangs controlling half the U. S. Combined with the black gangs that control nearly that, there isn’t much left for regular people.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:03 amMidwestblue: you’re exactly right except that we’re not talking about 12 million illegals, there’s already 20 million here (whole towns in Mexico are deserted). 5000 come into the U. S. everyday. After Reagan amnestied 3 million of them, we now have 20 million. If Bush amnesties this 20 million, all of Mexico wil be up here by 2010. In a recent poll, 3/4 of everyone in Mexico responded that they would rather live in the U. S.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:09 amtancredo is exactly right. This country is already reduced to third-world status with Mexican drug gangs controlling half the U. S. Combined with the black gangs that control nearly that, there isn’t much left for regular people.
Comment by teak — May 7, 2007 @ 11:03 am
May 7th, 2007 at 11:11 amAnd who exactly are these “regular people?” Choctaw? Cherokee? Lakota Sioux? Which group of non-immigrants are you referring to?
Kate Henry: you’re exactly wrong. These illegals could not have jobs without stealing an American’s identity. They have to produce documents. You can’t get around that. It isn’t just immigration laws these people break, they break LOTS of laws. Many of the are in Mexican gangs in their off hours and vicitimize legal Americans. We lived in OKCity and the illegals there would brag about their gang activities in their free time.
Employers should of course be punished. Businessmen, especially industrialists, have been seeking slave labor in the U. S. since the first slave was brought in. There is no similarity between African slaves and hispanic illegals. Slaves were forced to come here and work; Mexicans VOLUNTARILY place themselves in slave-wage jobs. They’re not doing it for the pittance salary. They figure they can get rich in crime.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:15 amtoasterhead: actually, I’m Cherokee. I hope you aren’t suggesting that Native Americans are benefiting from illegals.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:17 amAnd who exactly are these “regular people?†Choctaw? Cherokee? Lakota Sioux? Which group of non-immigrants are you referring to?
Comment by toasterhead — May 7, 2007 @ 11:11 am
He clearly meant CITIZENS by using “regular people” and possibly the over taxed middle class Americans both born here and legally naturalized! Your attempt to bring race into that is completely of YOUR OWN MAKING. You are the racist here toasterhead!
May 7th, 2007 at 11:18 amtoasterhead: actually, I’m Cherokee. I hope you aren’t suggesting that Native Americans are benefiting from illegals.
Comment by teak — May 7, 2007 @ 11:17 am
No, I said nothing of the sort. I’m suggesting that when you place “Mexicans” and “black gangs” on one side of the equation and “regular people” on the other side, it’s a very bigoted statement that oversimplifies a very complex social and economic issue with strong racial and ethnic undertones.
The only reason we came to have immigration laws in the first place is because white Anglo-Saxon Protestants realized that people coming into the country in the late 19th Century were the “wrong type” and barriers had to be erected to keep them out.
The other irony is that many of the people who come to the US from Central and South America are indigenous people, and thus ARE Native Americans. So perhaps your interpretation is correct – there are some Native Americans benefiting from illegal immigration.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:33 amNo, I said nothing of the sort. I’m suggesting that when you place “Mexicans†and “black gangs†on one side of the equation and “regular people†on the other side, it’s a very bigoted statement that oversimplifies a very complex social and economic issue with strong racial and ethnic undertones.
So he to you is a BIGOT since he pointed out the TRUTH that Mexican & Black GANGS do not regularly accept Arabs or Whites into there completely CRIMINAL ESTABLISHMENTS??
May 7th, 2007 at 11:37 amComment by toasterhead — May 7, 2007 @ 11:33 am
Honestly, you should read what you type in here before you press submit. Shame on you Toaster for supporting GANG MEMBERS and GANG CRIME. These are some of the most racially motivated groups around. There is no diversity in the “BLOODS” or the “CRYPS” or the “KKK”…
Gangland gangs spread violence, fear, racism, theft, anarchy, drugs, human traffic and much more.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:50 amSo he to you is a BIGOT since he pointed out the TRUTH that Mexican & Black GANGS do not regularly accept Arabs or Whites into there completely CRIMINAL ESTABLISHMENTS??
Comment by Saywho — May 7, 2007 @ 11:37 amYes. That’s exactly what I’m saying.
I am advocating the integration – by busing and National Guard deployment if necessary – of our nation’s criminal gangs. I have a dream that one day blacks and whites and Mexicans and Arabs will no longer own separate street corners. No longer will they separately but equally smoke motherfuckers like it ain’t no thing. I dream that one day they will be brothers and sisters in-arms, declaring their gang allegiance not by the color of their skin or content of their green card, but simply by the color of their jacket or sports team affiliation of their hats.
Thank you, teak and Saywho, for opening my eyes to this blight on our nation’s gangster culture.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:51 am50: There is no similarity between African slaves and hispanic illegals. Slaves were forced to come here and work; Mexicans VOLUNTARILY place themselves in slave-wage jobs.
Uhh — yeah. Voluntarily. Your options are starve and stay in Mexico, or risk your life crossing a desert or stuffed in an enclosed panel truck to find a job to feed your family back home. There isn’t a person I know of that wouldn’t make the same “choice.” It’s hardly a voluntary one. And once here, because of their undocumented status, they have no recourse for being abused by employers.
So, yes, indeed: illegal immigrant labor lacks the abject cruelty and degradation of one man owing another. No argument there. But it is the closest thing to slavery that our government dare tolerate.
And we know they’re not only tolerating it, both political parties are facilitating it. Their mere inaction is facilitating it.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:52 amComment by trippin — May 7, 2007 @ 11:52 am
The 13th Amendment deals with the legality of SLAVERY. The 14th Amendment establishes the fact that the INS will REGULATE all immigration and naturalization in the USA. It lists who is protected by the Constitution (naturalized and native born only) and everyone gets DUE PROCESS no matter what national status. Basically is establishes who can and can’t be DEPORTED!
Back home in my home here my wife and I are STRAPPED WITH DEBT. Illegal aliens are a portion of that DEBT and this situation (millions of illegal aliens) is depriving me of my Constitutional Rights as a CITIZEN OF THE USA.
May 7th, 2007 at 12:07 pmBack home in my home here my wife and I are STRAPPED WITH DEBT. Illegal aliens are a portion of that DEBT and this situation (millions of illegal aliens) is depriving me of my Constitutional Rights as a CITIZEN OF THE USA.
Comment by Saywho — May 7, 2007 @ 12:07 pm
Have you thought about forming your own gang, then? Obviously this is an important issue to you. I realize it might take some startup capital to put toether the initial personnel and materiel assets, but once you own a piece of turf you can make the rules. I expect your gang to be fully-integrated, with all members of society represented. I envision that The Saywho Mafia is going to be a veritable Benetton ad of color and creed.
I salute you in your efforts, and may all your Constitutionally-protected semiautomatic weapons always hit their targets with lethal force and pinpoint accuracy.
May 7th, 2007 at 12:27 pmComment by toasterhead — May 7, 2007 @ 12:27 pm
Yes, you are a communist and a moron!
May 7th, 2007 at 6:42 pmYes, you are a communist and a moron!
Comment by Saywho — May 7, 2007 @ 6:42 pm
Hey, welcome back! :) How’s the whole “thugg life” thing working out for ya? Is it true that it’s nothing but bitches and money, or is that just another distortion of our pop culture?
May 7th, 2007 at 9:55 pm