Fox Spins New Zawahiri Tape, Refuses To Mention That Al Qaeda Supports Bush Iraq Strategy
Fox Spins New Zawahiri Tape, Refuses To Mention That Al Qaeda Supports Bush Iraq Strategy
Yesterday, a new videotape from al Qaeda deputy Ayman al-Zawahiri was released, in which he expresses opposition to the withdrawal of American troops from Iraq and says he wants 200,000-300,000 U.S. troops killed before the America pulls out.
Zawahiri says Congress’ proposed Iraq timetable is evidence of American “failure and frustration,” but adds, “This bill will deprive us of the opportunity to destroy the American forces which we have caught in a historic trap.”
This morning on Fox News, host Chris Wallace attempted to spin the Zawahiri tape. He repeatedly said Zawahiri “says the Democrats’ troop pull-out bill is proof of a U.S. defeat,” never once mentioning the fact that Zawahiri also advocated Bush’s strategy of staying the course in Iraq. Watch it:
The fact that Zawahiri views Bush’s Iraq policy as a failure is not news. The American people, in one poll after another, view Iraq as a failure. The significance of Zawahiri’s tape is his stated concern that a withdrawal would deprive al Qaeda of its ambition to inflict sustained and gradual losses against U.S. troops.
As John Aravosis at AmericaBlog writes, “He wants the US to remain in a quagmire where our troops are killed and killed and killed, i.e., he likes the [Bush] plan for Iraq.” Wallace chose not to report this aspect of the Zawahiri’s tape.
Transcript:
I’m Chris Wallace. al Qaeda’s number two leader says the Democrats’ troop pull-out bill is proof of a U.S. defeat
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Al Qaeda’s second-in-command, Ayman al-Zawahiri says the bill the Democrats sent the president calling to pull troops out of Iraq is a sign of American failure. In a new internet video, he also mocks White House assertions the troops surge is beginning to work.
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Ayman al-Zawahiri, the number two al Qaeda leader, says the bill that you Democrats sent the president is proof of the American defeat in Iraq. Don’t you — we’ll talk about the details in a moment. does your party run the risk of being seen by the american people as they were after Vietnam as soft on national security?
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May 6th, 2007 at 12:12 pmGWB’s bestest buddies.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:14 pmFrom The Sunday Times
May 6, 2007
Republicans defect to the Obama camp
Sarah Baxter, Washington
DISILLUSIONED supporters of President George W Bush are defecting to Barack Obama, the Democratic senator for Illinois, as the White House candidate with the best chance of uniting a divided nation.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:22 pmDown in flames for Bushco airlines….
Al Qaeda seem to have mastered the art of reverse psychology. Or maybe they don’t really have to be that good considering the fact that their target audience comprises of simple-minded fools?
May 6th, 2007 at 12:30 pmAt a rate of 100 US deaths per month, it will take Zawahiri 167 years to reach his goal. i hope the US would have pulled out by then.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:33 pmA fly could out smart GW and get him all tangled in a fly trap.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:35 pmNo shame, these fools really feel no shame. Reminds me of the Nixon days… but then again this is much worse.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:43 pmLooks like he decided against juice in the Green Zone, and they met directly in the pResidential library.
May 6th, 2007 at 12:44 pmI think al-Qa’ida has used this strategy before… The whole quagmire-and-bankrupt routine. Well just because it worked against the Soviets doesn’t mean it’ll work against us. We have three distinct advantages in our favor:
1. We have a lot more money (borrowed from the Chinese) than the Soviets ever did.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:02 pm2. American ingenuity, which brought us famous strategies such as the troop surge, adding more troops, and sending more troops to Iraq.
3. We have a widening gap between rich and poor, which will encourage more low-income kids to go into the military – try that in a controlled economy!
“Al Qaeda seem to have mastered the art of reverse psychology.
Comment by Abby — May 6, 2007 @ 12:30 pm”
I’d call it Child Psychology considering their nemesis…
May 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pmOf course Fox was all over trying to find statements from Iraqi insurgents supposedly endorsing Dem policies. Could the hypocrisy be more obvious? No, no it couldn’t.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:15 pmAl Qaeda and the Taliban have been saying for years that they support Bush. Of course they do – he gives them ammunition and targets.
No more Iraq spending bills. Just one for Impeachment. That’s obviously become the only peaceful way to end this never-ending debacle.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:18 pmWell I’d like to point out the spin from thinkprogress.org for failing to realize that Al Qaeda wants to kill 200k – 300k US citizens. Do you people really think that they are going to stop after we leave Iraq? It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:23 pmHell, Fox probably produced it.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:25 pmHmmm, must have skipped Mr. Wallace’s mind…
May 6th, 2007 at 1:26 pmJ,
Tired old line… get another.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:33 pmWell I’d like to point out the spin from thinkprogress.org for failing to realize that Al Qaeda wants to kill 200k – 300k US citizens. Do you people really think that they are going to stop after we leave Iraq? It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world.
Comment by J — May 6, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Those of us who reside in FACT-BASED REALITY have no doubt of this, J. We also realize an incompetent, delusional, corrupt, grandiose, and very likely, drunk, President is incapable of fighting this threat.
Why did the GOP first try to block the 9/11 Commission, then fight and fight to stop its reccomendations from being implemented? Oh, wait, I know – the Blundered-In-Chief was busy coloring all the pictures, once he finally finished reading “My Little Goat”.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:34 pmFox – spinning? – OMG – what a news flash – another example of why the brainwashed who watch FOX are so ignorant – they never question – they take the Fox word, and then they call C-Span, comment on a blog and feel so self-satisfied.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:35 pm“Do you people really think that they are going to stop after we leave Iraq?”
No, but it’ll be a whole lot harder if we’d bothered, the last five years, to actually do something.
IRAQ was never about 9/11. We not only wasted time, resources and lives in Iraq, but we made the terrorist situation far worse than it would have been.
It is the Iraq debacle that has ensured that there are enough people angry at us to the point to make sure that we do get attacked again and again. And for that, you can thank Bush.
“It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world.
Comment by J — May 6, 2007 @ 1:23 pm”
The CIA was against attacking Iraq. If you don’t even comprehend that, how can you expect us to take you seriously about any other second-hand opinion you may spout?
May 6th, 2007 at 1:37 pm“Oh, wait, I know – the Blundered-In-Chief was busy coloring all the pictures, once he finally finished reading “My Little Goatâ€.
Comment by the republic of stupidity — May 6, 2007 @ 1:34 pm”
That visual was priceless… LOL
Sad though, because it’s relatively true…
May 6th, 2007 at 1:38 pmPeople really need to quit with the “they agree with al qeada” bit. Please stop playing into their hands.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:40 pmWhy do people think that Al Qaeda is going to wait until we leave Iraq? They will commit violence here, whether we stay or leave Iraq. Do people think they can only fight on one stage at a time?
May 6th, 2007 at 1:42 pmMeanwhile, we are not much safer than we were 9/10/01. That’s GW’s failure – he took us to Iraq and neglected all precautions and measures that would make us more secure.
If the enemy can keep us bogged down in Iraq, using our treasure, depleting us militarily, it will only make the next one that much easier to carry out. They are only watching us go down slowly in Iraq, observing our being caught in a civil war, taking advantage whenever they can – it has nothing to do with their “following us home” after we leave Iraq – it has everything to do with strategy — something GW never had.
Hey J:
I’d like to point out an even more obvious stupid thing that you and Bu$h-cheney et al. seem to be overlooking: al-Zawahiri almost said in his tape exactly what I’ve been thinking for a long time…
May 6th, 2007 at 1:46 pm
#13 said: “It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world.”
Well this certainly describes the White House thinking from 2001 to the present!
Isn’t this the cretinous “puppy dog theory” Where Al Quaida will follow us back to the usa if we pull out? It’s too bad the Viet Cong weren’t brilliant enough to employ this strategy back in 1975 or else all us Americans would be speaking Vietnamese today!
I guess our only hope is that Al quaida is a stupid as the Viet Cong of 1975?
-85% jimmy
May 6th, 2007 at 1:49 pmJ,
it doesn’t bother you that your president and al queda endorse the same statergery?
get a clue or shut up.
May 6th, 2007 at 1:54 pmThat visual was priceless… LOL
Sad though, because it’s relatively true…
Comment by unbelievable — May 6, 2007 @ 1:38 pm
You know what they say, unbelievable… one picture is worth a thousand words. Or in Bush’s hands, a thousand deaths.
In J’s hands, a thousand strokes… actually just 10 or 15, and then it’s all over…
May 6th, 2007 at 1:55 pmjim b,
“Puppy dog ” theory!
I love that!
May 6th, 2007 at 1:56 pmDo you people really think that they are going to stop after we leave Iraq? It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world.
Comment by J — May 6, 2007 @ 1:23 pm
Do you think Al Qaeda is going to stop if we DON’T leave Iraq? How does spending all our money and troops in Iraq improve homeland security? And how does angering muslims daily create less terrorists?
Do you think if we leave Iraq Al Qaeda will commandeer the Iraqi Navy and bring all the WMDs that have never been located to the shores of the United States or up the Mississipi River?
I’m sure you have all the answers and I can’t wait to hear them.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:01 pmWell having read the reports on FBI/CIA failures on 9/11, and Sy Hersh’s Chain of Command– I don’t believe they could find their asses with both hands. They have no agents in the field. They can’t even do boolean searches.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:13 pm“You know what they say, unbelievable… one picture is worth a thousand words. Or in Bush’s hands, a thousand deaths.”
Also both sad and true…
“In J’s hands, a thousand strokes… actually just 10 or 15, and then it’s all over…
Comment by the republic of stupidity — May 6, 2007 @ 1:55 pm”
LOL…
May 6th, 2007 at 2:17 pmAnd if the bill somehow managed to pass, Al Qaeda would have claimed victory. They are opportunistic. Unfortunately Bush has provided them with many opportunities to further their cause.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:33 pmI don’t give a rat’s patoot who declares victory. We’ve already won. The war is over — it’s now an occupation in the midst of a civil war. There’s no disputing this fact.
The question for us is: what is in the best long-term interests of the United States? And to me, that is 1) reducing our profile as a potential target, 2) using the freed-up resources to go after the people that attacked up with relentless determination, 3) establishing an actual coalition of states interested in a stable Iraq to contain the civil war within Iraqi borders, and 4) dividing up the warring factions geographically into a loose federation of states with equal sharing of oil revenues.
Shrubnuts is up to none of it, nor is he interested in resolving this matter. His goal is to run out the clock and leave the china shop for someone else to clean up.
But I must say, it is positively mind-numbing to think that an al Qaeda leader would cause us to prolong our loss of blood and treasure just because he claims victory. For this administration, having al Qaeda in charge of our foreign policy shouldn’t be surprising I suppose. After all, Bush handed them the sweetest vicotry of all the minute he started shredding our Constitution.
When oh when will we stop visiting gifts on Osama bin Laden?
May 6th, 2007 at 2:46 pmRemember when Al-Qaeda came out with a video, days before the 2004 Presidential election?
Pretty much the same thing.
May 6th, 2007 at 2:49 pmScrew Zawahri. They should not be talking about him at all. He should be dead or on death row or serving a life sentence without parole.
PERIOD.
May 6th, 2007 at 3:14 pmBirds of a feather (Bush and Zawahiri) flock together.
May 6th, 2007 at 4:53 pmYou know, I’ve noticed the trolls all seem to be saying the same things all the time. Lots of folks here have pointed that out. But why should that be, I wondered.
A bit of investigative reporting by “Troll Hunter, Private Eye,” soon turned up the answer. Rummaging through the trash at the “West Hollywood All Male Nude Gym†where the troll locker room is located, (thanks to VV for letting us in on that secret,) he found the answer! It was a small cheap pocket book that had a lot of wear and dog eared pages in it. “Hunter” thinks it may have been discarded because it was mostly unreadable due to some liquid that appears to have stained the pages. The book also had a terrible smell, just like a bad case of athletes foot.
The important thing about this tome was its title! It’s called “Rove’s Notes.” No doubt a clever reference to the standard “Cliff’s Notes” used to avoid reading the whole book on the subject. Apparently, this is the standard textbook that all the trolls are issued and actually believe in! I have to tell you when Hunter handed me the book it was a breath-taking experience. I really wasn’t surprised however, as I have been telling VV not to put its foot in its mouth for a while now, but I digress. (Pssst, Valiant, the Listerine still isn’t working.)
So, finally, an important mystery has been solved, thanks to the hard work of “Troll Hunter, Private Eye.” Now we know the origin of troll posts from people like VV, Jake, Patrick1, RAF 45, (and J above). The “facts” they use come from someone named “Rove,” whoever he is. This explains things like the repetition between trolls, the tired old excuses, and the outdated info long ago proved wrong.
One thing Rove’s Notes” doesn’t explain though, is the sarcasm, the meanness and disdain, not to mention the “in your face” arrogance that trolls seem to abound in. Stay tuned for the further adventures of “Troll Hunter, Private Eye,” as he seeks to discover the hidden lives of the trolls in the darkened underbelly of the troll locker room at the “West Hollywood All Male Nude Gym  As Hunter says, “Its a dirty job, fraught with danger, but somebody has to do it.”
May 6th, 2007 at 4:54 pmjust think… if our currency wasn’t propped up by whether or not mid-east oil was traded in dollars or euros, we wouldn’t have to listen to medieval scumbags like Zawahiri. It is time to impeach Bush and Cheney and remake our economy and energy policy for the 21st Century… change the playing field… make these backwards warlords obsolete.
May 6th, 2007 at 5:00 pmThis might not excite some of you folks, but I’m heartened by this from today’s LA Times (my hometown paper) editorial:
“This newspaper reluctantly endorsed the U.S. troop surge as the last, best hope for stabilizing conditions so that the elected Iraqi government could assume full responsibility for its affairs. But we also warned that the troops should not be used to referee a civil war. That, regrettably, is what has happened.”
They go on to say:
“But an important element needs to be taken off the table: American blood. The U.S. should immediately declare its intention to begin a gradual troop drawdown, starting no later than the fall.”
Coming from one of our nations leading newspapers this is good news indeed. There is much in the rest of the editorial that needs to be argued with, but the thrust, as noted here is right on the money, IMO. Now if the WSJ and the rest of the MSM would come to their senses (snark) we could get on with the business of getting out of Iraq.
May 6th, 2007 at 6:02 pmAnd then we have this idiot, Boehner, spouting this unbelievable Boehnercrap:
“As the violence raged, House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, warned on “Fox News Sunday” that Republican support could waver if President Bush’s Iraq war policy does not succeed by the fall.
“By the time we get to September or October, members are going to want to know how well this is working, and if it isn’t, what’s Plan B?” Boehner said.”
Absolutely unbelievable!
The total is now 3373! 8 more troops died today! And this idiot and his republic asshats aren’t sure if the surge will work. “We’ll check back with you in September Gen Petraeus” and see if you need a few more Friedmans, and a few more dead and maimed troops.
Man do I hate the lack of moral and ethical understanding these Republic asshats display. We know, as Lakof says, they are not the party of compassion and understanding… but good grief…
I weep for the pain and suffering of our country and the mass ignorance and fear that brought us this neo-con cabal who have sunken us into such an abyss.
May 6th, 2007 at 6:22 pmWell I’d like to point out the spin from thinkprogress.org for failing to realize that Al Qaeda wants to kill 200k – 300k US citizens. Do you people really think that they are going to stop after we leave Iraq? It’s funny how people think they know more than all of the Intelligence agencies in the world. – J
Hey J, here are two choices for you:
1. Explain how staying in Iraq assists in eliminating terror threats in any way, shape, or form.
or
2. STFU
Thanks.
May 6th, 2007 at 6:23 pmal qaeda LOVES the commander in chimp in the white house. afterall, dummya has valiantly created a whole new venue in which for them to recruit namely, iraq and he has been known to cater to their demands. notice how the air force base in saudi arabia was shut down per order of dummya immediatley following 9-11 which, was a major demand of al qaeda following 9-11. i wonder if faux “reported” that fact?
May 6th, 2007 at 6:30 pmAs I’ve stated before, terrorists don’t say “look what we did to them”, they say, “look what we made them do to themselves”. And we fall for this shit every time. They slap us and just like yahoo cowboys we follow the General George Custer, Georg Bush war plan and go charging right into an ambush which is where we are now. Bush is keeping us in the ambush with his slow escalation splurge. Our country is divided, nearly bankrupt, our military is near broke, our troops killed daily and all the terrorist need do is yell “chicken” or slap our ego and right back into the ambush we go again. “Yeah , look at what we can make them do to themselves, stay right in the middle of the shooting gallery.” And Fox News cowboys prod them right into it, “Don’t be cowards, stand up and get shot like real men. Don’t be soft on defense”. Will they ever smarten up?
May 6th, 2007 at 6:36 pm“.†And Fox News cowboys prod them right into it, “Don’t be cowards, stand up and get shot like real men. Don’t be soft on defenseâ€. ”
never since it’s not their kids dying
May 6th, 2007 at 6:42 pm#40 Comment by Bjobotts — May 6, 2007 @ 6:36 pm
As I’ve stated before, terrorists don’t say “look what we did to themâ€, they say, “look what we made them do to themselvesâ€.
Yeah, they may say that, but they are being fooled as well. They take way too much credit for themselves if they say that. BushCo did this “Iraq thingee” all by themselves. No real or rational reason, or provocation from them was/is necessary. We are simply chasing empire in “The Arc of Instability.” The terrarists are really incidental and being used, as they will discover when we leave just like our troops when they come home. Their bosses want the war to continue just like Bush, and the terrarists are simply cannonfodder just like the occupation forces, only with foreign sounding names.
May 6th, 2007 at 7:01 pm#38 Comment by gorn by any other name — May 6, 2007 @ 6:23 pm
“Explain how staying in Iraq assists in eliminating terror threats in any way, shape, or form.”
Oh, oh! Prepare for incoming bullshit, directly from “Rove’s Notes”, the recently discovered troll textbook. See post #34 above for explanation of “Rove’s Notes.”
May 6th, 2007 at 7:26 pmWhy did you cut the video off before Dodd’s reply? I’d like to know how he handled that ridiculous setup …
May 6th, 2007 at 7:31 pmThis is so typical of shady media. Blaming Democrats for Bush’s blunders? That guy must have went to the same school as O’Rielly.
May 6th, 2007 at 7:33 pm#44 Comment by asdf — May 6, 2007 @ 7:31 pm
“Why did you cut the video off before Dodd’s reply? I’d like to know how he handled that ridiculous setup …
Here is the next part of the interview. The rest you can read at Fox News’ site.”
DODD: Not at all here. Again, this is a civil war going on in Iraq. This is not the United States versus Al Qaida. It’s Shia versus Sunnis tearing each other apart. It’s gone on for centuries, but particularly here right now.
The United States is being asked to, in a sense, referee a civil war. And at $2 billion a week, $8 billion a month, Americans believe that we have done all we can possibly do, and Iraqis have to decide whether or not they want to end this civil war and the sectarian violence.
The idea that this is a winnable conflict by the United States — every military leader from the very outset have said this is not a situation where there’s a military victory for us here.
That was the conclusion of the Baker-Hamilton report, the conclusion of General Casey, General Dempsey. Every senior military official who’s been involved, Chris, in Iraq has said from the very beginning there is not a military solution to Iraq here.
So the point has arrived, I think, for all of us that the status quo is unacceptable and that we should begin redeploying our troops.
May 6th, 2007 at 7:41 pmThe s at Flase News are at it again.
May 6th, 2007 at 8:36 pmOsama is hiding out on George’s ranch. Noone would ever look there.
May 6th, 2007 at 8:47 pmwhat about how he said they supported Katrina?
May 6th, 2007 at 9:10 pmOMG!
Most Americans are saying the very same things Zawahiri is saying!
Could that mean most Americans are getting their talking points from the terrorists!? Are most Americans in bed with the terrorists?
Who would have thunk!?
/sarc off
May 7th, 2007 at 3:14 amJust a quick question to the group. Do you believe Al-Qaeda is your enemy?
May 7th, 2007 at 8:41 amHey Chris, so glad to see you back to form!
May 7th, 2007 at 9:15 am“Meanwhile, we are not much safer than we were 9/10/01. That’s GW’s failure – he took us to Iraq and neglected all precautions and measures that would make us more secure.”
Actually, we are a lot less safe. Look at what is happening in Kansas. This was the headline on the Think Fast section today:
“The rebuilding effort in tornado-ravaged Greensburg, KS, likely will be hampered because some much-needed equipment is in Iraq, said that state’s governor. Governor Kathleen Sebelius said much of the National Guard equipment usually positioned around the state to respond to emergencies is gone.â€
If we can’t provide help to a tornado ravaged section of the US, how can we think that we are prepared to fight a battle here on our shores?
Everything Bush and the Republics have done in the last 6 years has made us much less safe here at home. They have depleted our resources and they have made thousands and thousands of new enemies that were not there before we invaded Iraq.
Are you mad yet? It’s time to fight back. Call your representatives and tell them what you think. And keep calling and writing until they hear you. I do this every day.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:03 amChris wallce can’t help but do the work of the republican party. Who can ever beileve anything from this “News” station?
May 7th, 2007 at 11:03 amI’m glad you guys posted this. This political posturing is a re-occurring theme with this president and administration. To note–despite the fact there have been dozens and dozens of tapes in which the administration and media pundits don’t seem to be citing from much, what makes this increasingly catastrophic is the sense that there is only one way to frame these recent comments from Zawahiri.
As Michael Scheuer–former head of covert, counter terrorist organization devoted exclusively to hunting down and capturing key members of al-Qaeda, puts it “The Bush administration’s occupation of Iraq was Osama bin Laden’s wet dream”.
The perception that the United States holds deeply prejudiced and arrogant notions that it’s our responsibility to police the world, etc. certainly sounds great when it comes out of the mouth of Karen Hughes, or Condi Rice, or Tony Snow, etc. but there’s a very significant and fundamental problem here.
Al-Qaeda’s main strategy–although hardly even considered by the mainstream U.S. media in attacking and intentionally provoking the United States by attacking us on our own soil, was absolutely no doubt whatsoever here, to get us involved in a series of military excursions and occupations in response. The purpose here–and it’s been confirmed again and again–is the attempt to slowly bleed the U.S. economy and try to effect a nationalistic desire to keep as much of a country’s oil resources tied to the actual people who stand above the oil. Even more troubling than all of this is the notion that the Euro might someday replace the dollar as the principle measure of all the world’s petroleum.
This is why the whole “defeatism, failure” that the GOP loves to say for the cameras is missing the main point, and actually serves al-Qaeda’s interests. Here–as in other such posts, Zawahari is intentionally provoking the Bush administration by making it sound as if his organization is winning is about to win. It’s hogwash.
Just as the World Trade Center buildings that were attacked represented an economic connection to inherent strategies, so are these comments. They are only meant to provoke a cowboy–bring’em on type President who sees the world so melo-dramatically that one could really seriously believe that the President is positively committed and believes in his mission but cannot even consider that much of this is intentionally strategic.
There’s clearly a symbiotic relationship between Bush and al-Qaeda and this further allows this terrorist organization to ensure future American military operations and occupation by provoking the President. Of course there’s the timing.
As Keith Olberman mused, the Iraqi Government has learned at least one valuable characteristic of the U.S. Government—that is to go on vacation in the summer time. Of recent concern happens to be an oil bill that will provide no less than 80% of Iraq’s oil to be given to outside corporations such as Halliburton, etc. To this end, Halliburton recently moved to re-locate their headquarters from Houston to Dubai, U.A.E. That is to say, extremely close to the oil facilities in southern Iraq and Iran. It’s absurdly treasonous if you really want to provide a framework which might actually come as close to this definition as so many members of the GOP recognize.
Let’s also look at these recent coverage of enormous success via cooperation with Saudi Arabia—the 15/19 origin of the 9-11 terrorists. Suddenly,–all within days of impending debate over the war in Iraq—these things occur.
And now here’s the most accurate definition which applies. Insanity is when one expects a different outcome to something by continuing to use precisely the same methods which have not worked in the first place.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:38 amWow, in order to get 200,000 to 300,000 troops killed I guess we would have to stay there another 400 to 500 years at this rate.
ROTFL
Did this site mention the fact that Al Qaeda wanted Kerry and Democrats to win the elections? Of course not.
ROTFL
You people are so funny. That’s why I come here.
ROTFL
May 7th, 2007 at 1:27 pm>Wow, in order to get 200,000 to 300,000 troops killed I guess we would >have to stay there another 400 to 500 years at this rate.
>
>ROTFL
yes hurk very funny, “at this rate” is hardly a given..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070507/wl_nm/iraq_dc
“U.S. warns of heavier casualties in Iraq ”
Besides, if the next 100 presidents were as stupid as this one, we WOULD be in IRaq for another 500 years. you know we’re building permanent bases there, right assh@t?
>Did this site mention the fact that Al Qaeda wanted Kerry and Democrats >to win the elections? Of course not.
No this site doesnt mention any of Rush Limbaugh’s imaginary drug addled talking points. Quote please?
> You people are so funny. That’s why I come here.
you come here because yours is a meaningless hollow existence whose only defined by some enemy or opponent. things aren’t going too well now for the folks you hump the flag for, so your congnitive dissonace is probably getting pretty painful. poor 20 percenters. the stupidest ones are the last to wake up…i suspect inbreds probably make up a good portion of the Dumbya “dead-enders”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmI wonder how many cabana virgins Osama keeps poolside in Pakistan…
May 8th, 2007 at 12:51 amDid this site mention the fact that Al Qaeda wanted Kerry and Democrats >to win the elections? Of course not
Here’s what John McLaughlin said immediately following a viewing of another bin Laden tape that was released just days before the 2004 presidential election: “Bin Laden certainly did a nice favor today for the President.”
Furthermore, he mentions that this interpretation was the actual conclusion of an inter-agency meeting between top intelligence professionals from all over government.
“Today’s conclusion: bin Laden’s message was clearly designed to assist the President’s reelection.”
May 8th, 2007 at 6:33 amWell, if John McLaughlin said it then it must be true.
ROTFL
May 8th, 2007 at 10:25 amFox is an extremely dangerous media to the world. Their interpretation of the AQ tape is that they WANT U.S. troops to keep dying in Iraq. AQ is targeting the message to our stupid president called Bush, it’s not about Democrats. If Bush did not veto the Democrats bill, then the troops will be pulled out and AQ has no chance of killing them. Got it?
May 8th, 2007 at 1:15 pm