With Bin Laden ‘Stronger Than Ever,’ U.S. Officials Concede Overestimating Damage Done To Al Qaeda
With Bin Laden ‘Stronger Than Ever,’ U.S. Officials Concede Overestimating Damage Done To Al Qaeda
In the months after September 11, President Bush declared victory over the man he once pledged to capture “dead or alive” and began turning his focus to Iraq:
I am deeply concerned about Iraq. … I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]. … We shoved him out more and more on the margins. He has no place to train his al Qaeda killers anymore. [President Bush, 3/13/02]
The results have been predictable: As the U.S. has been mired in an Iraqi civil war, bin Laden has slipped away from the crosshairs and is using his freedom to help al Qaeda resurge all over the Middle East. U.S. News reports this week that “bin Laden already has a safe haven in Pakistan — and may be stronger than ever” as al Qaeda “retains the ability to organize complex, mass-casualty attacks and inspire others.” Bin Laden is behind much of this resurgence:
The broader movement inspired by al Qaeda has only grown bigger, largely because of the group’s powerful propaganda machine. Bin Laden and Zawahiri have been able to fill in the gaps between their megaplots with a rising stream of smaller-scale, homegrown attacks.
Now, well over five years after 9/11, some administration officials are conceding they may have been too hasty in declaring victory over bin Laden:
Privately, U.S. officials concede that they had overestimated the damage they had inflicted on al Qaeda’s network. The captures of successive operational commanders, including 9/11 planner Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, amounted only to temporary setbacks; they were replaced with disturbing ease. “We understand better how al Qaeda is withstanding the offensive that was launched against it in 2001 and later,” says a senior U.S. government official.
Bush is using the rise of al Qaeda as fodder to promote his misguided escalation plan in Iraq. He now claims that al Qaeda has made Iraq a central front in the war on terror, but al Qaeda leaders view Bush’s Iraq strategy as more opportunity to launch attacks against U.S. troops. “Iraq has, of course, been an undeniable boon for al Qaeda, both as a battleground and a rallying cause,” U.S. News adds.
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Bush must be a terrorist sympathizer or he would have stopped this from happening.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:22 pmOsama and Zawahri should be in prison or dead. It’s stunning they are not. It’s the biggest sham ever pulled on the American people. Bigger than Iraq.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:23 pmCaption Contest:
“This is how big Condi’s dildo is, and I take it without any lube”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmno kidding. I hope the American people realize someday that brute force and war will never properly solve conflicts – there’s always another “problem” that arises when dealing with issues this way…
The politicians promise us “success” and peace, but never, ever deliver on these promises.
Only when we have a completely new direction in our foreign policy will we achieve these – we need a foreign policy that doesn’t overthrow governments, doesn’t invade nations and kill civilians, doesn’t have military bases in 120+ countries, doesn’t prop up dictators with billions in “foreign aid”
For more on this new direction:
“A Foreign Policy for America”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/a_foreign_policy_for_america
I was disgusted with the MSM when Kerry pointed out during the Presidential debates that Bush had said to the media he didn’t care about where bin Laden was and the MSM didn’t play that clip again and again. NO, they played tape about Kerry mentioning that Cheney’s daughter was lesbian. It was sheer hypocrisy since even the Cheneys had used their daughter’s sexual preference to gain political points. But the clip of Bush blowing off bin Laden as small potatoes and no concern of his was truly outrageous. It just goes to show you how small minded middle America is.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmThe reason for opposing this war is not “that it is un-winable”, but rather, “that it is immoral” or “unethical”. The fact that bin Laden is still at large, does not negate the validity of a “war on terror”.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:24 pmI suppose getting bin Laden would mean that there would be no boogie man out there which we could scare the American people with. Gotta have an enemy if you want unending war.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:25 pmBush’s destruction of all things conservative claims another victim. The term “conservative estimate” now means just the opposite: something wildly overestimated, with no basis in reality. While conservatives had to spend decades of effort to trash the liberal brand, Bush has done the same for them in seven short years.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:27 pmAnd guess what, y’all — Remember when the MSM was saying that an “extremely high-ranking White House official” was caught in the Palfrey call-girl ring? Before ABC News reported that no one else involved was really newsworthy? Well, word is leaking out that that official was none other than Dick Cheney.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:29 pmThis is great news. I’m amazed at Al-Qaeda’s resistance to this regime. This makes Bush look bad so this is great!
May 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI will vote for any candidate — Republican or Democrat — who promises to reduce our troop presence in Iraq and re-double our efforts in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pm#
The reason for opposing this war is not “that it is un-winableâ€, but rather, “that it is immoral†or “unethicalâ€. The fact that bin Laden is still at large, does not negate the validity of a “war on terrorâ€.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
You can’t have a war on a tactic.
As we can see from facts, the “WOT” has only created more terrorists.
Wake up..
Thanks!
May 7th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI suppose getting bin Laden would mean that there would be no boogie man out there which we could scare the American people with. Comment by Crump’s Brother
I thought K.C. ’s career was safely over; I SHUDDER to think of having to listen to a rap version of “That’s the Way (Uh-huh, uh-huh) I like It.” That shit scares the crap out of me.
Oh, you meant boogy man?
My bad.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe fact that bin Laden is still at large, does not negate the validity of a “war on terrorâ€.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:24 pm
Of course not – what’s your point?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:33 pmThe “war on terror” is, of course, only a metaphor.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmWhen can we get some adults to run this country?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:34 pmMemo to self:
May 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmSend Head Writer the Al Qaeda II script back for a rewrite and assorted tweeking. Evildoers Strike Back?
That picture summarizes the entirety of the Shrub administration: “I don’t have a f*cking clue, and I don’t know where to find one.”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmWe are making enemies faster than we can kill them.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:35 pmmy point is, this thread has no point. Why would it make a difference to anyone that the Bush Adm. concedes that they overestimated damage done to al Qaeda?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:36 pmI think it’s actually boogeyman now that I think about it. :)
May 7th, 2007 at 4:37 pmBin Laden can’t be killed.
What would Bush be without Bin Laden?
What would Superman be without Lex Luther?
What would Batman be without the Joker?
What would Spider Man be if insecticides weren’t banned?
You can’t have fear without a nemesis.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:39 pmYou can’t sell anything without fear.
#9…
May 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmOh, if only that list gets out, and this is true…………
Christmas in May………
OBL TELEGRAM TO W; THANK YOU THANK YOU
Dear Georgie,
THANK YOU for letting up on the hunt for me.
THANK YOU for creating new orphans and Jihadists everyday.
THANK YOU for supporting my family and whitewashing the 9/11 investigation (guess we both were dirty)
THANK YOU for invading Iraq for that I will always be thankful.
THANK YOU for spending all your resources and children to die in the optional war of Iraq .
THANK YOU FOR LEAVING OFFICE WITHOUT GETTING ME.
AS A GESTURE OF MY APPRECIATION I WILL OR AL-ZAWAHARI WILL PUT OUT TAPES FROM TIME TO TIME TO HELP YOUR POLL NUMBERS LIKE WE HELPED YOU GET ELECTED IN 2004
HUGS AND KISSES,
Osama Bin Forgotten
May 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmCrump’s Brother,
This administration doesn’t want to “get” Bin laden, quite the contrary. They have him put up in style in a UAE penthouse. They roll him out on the eve of important votes to scare gulible Americans into voting Republic666an because they somehow have convinced the multitude of sheep in this country that they are somehow more effective at saving us from “terror”
When George HW Bush goes to Saudi Arabia he stays with the Bin laden family, that’s a fact.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:40 pmUKNOWN LETTER FROM OBL TO BUSH
After numerous rounds of “We don’t know if Osama is still alive,” Osama
himself decided to send George Bush a letter in his own handwriting to
let him know he was still in the game. Bush opened the letter and it
appeared to contain a single line of coded message:
*370HSSV-0773H*
Bush was baffled, so he emailed it to Condi Rice. Condi and her aides
had no clue either, so they sent it to the FBI. No one could solve it
at the FBI so it went to the CIA, then to the NSA.
With no clue as to its meaning, they eventually asked Britain ’s MI-6
for help. Within a minute MI-6 cabled the White House with this reply:
“Tell the President he’s holding the message upside down.”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pm“I will vote for any candidate — Republican or Democrat — who promises to reduce our troop presence in Iraq and re-double our efforts in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater.
Comment by Exley — May 7, 2007 @ 4:30 pm”
At what moment did you finally come to terms with the debacle in Iraq and stop supporting it? I’m interested in knowing the straw that broken the camel’s back for you, as it seemed, for a while, that you were close. What finally pur you over?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:41 pmPresident Bush’s flip-flops on Bin Laden:
“There’s an old poster out west, as I recall, that said, “Wanted: Dead or Alive.” (September 17, 2001)
“So I don’t know where he is. You know, I just don’t spend that much time on him, Kelly, to be honest with you…I’ll repeat what I said. I truly am not that concerned about him.” (March 13, 2002)
“Gosh, I just don’t think I ever said I’m not worried about Osama bin Laden. It’s kind of one of those exaggerations. Of course we’re worried about Osama bin Laden.” (October 13, 2004)
“All I would ask them to do is listen to the words of Osama bin Laden and take him seriously. When he says he’s going to hurt the American people again, or try to, he means it. I take it seriously, and the people of NSA take it seriously.” (January 26, 2006)
May 7th, 2007 at 4:42 pm#10….
May 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmTo accomplish what, Exley?
Move the theater of operations to a less urban environment, where is easier to strafe and bomb without killing quite so many civilians and American troops?
Zuzabel,
where did you hear that????
May 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmI will vote for any candidate — Republican or Democrat — who promises to reduce our troop presence in Iraq and re-double our efforts in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater.
Comment by Exley — May 7, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
Exlax, what makes you think anybody here gives a rat’s ass who you vote for?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:43 pmmy point is, this thread has no point. Why would it make a difference to anyone that the Bush Adm. concedes that they overestimated damage done to al Qaeda?
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
I makes all the difference in the world – we are in an unjust war in Iraq, when we should have stayed and got the job done in Afghanistan against OBL. Like most people in the world, I was for our attacking OBL and the Taliban, yet we effectively gave up the fight in order this president to pursue his lust to attack Iraq – unjustly.
Conceding an overestimation of damage to Al Qaeda, is part and parcel of the lies this administration has used to gain support for an unjust war in Iraq. One that has cost more American lives than those who were lost on 9/11. One that has cost billions of dollars that could & should have been spent here in America.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmmy point is, this thread has no point. Why would it make a difference to anyone that the Bush Adm. concedes that they overestimated damage done to al Qaeda?
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
Then why don’t you just not comment on it, as opposed to finding it important enough to make three posts on. Are you admitting that you’re whole reason for posting here is to trash TP?
May 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pm“To accomplish what, Exley?
Comment by Raven — May 7, 2007 @ 4:43 pm”
I’ve come to realize that it’s not about accomplishing anything for the right-wing, but about pure, unadulterared revenge and retrobution… An eye for an eye mentality. It’s why the whole world is on the verge of going blind.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:46 pmChimpy gets the prize for Greatest Recruiter of the Last Five Years for al Qaeda.
Nice one, Chimp.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pmThe title of this thread is a joke. Or perhaps the intern that wrote it can’t remember history past yesterday. But it was funny.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:47 pm“War on terror” is a ridiculous slogan that doesn’t even make any sense. Wars are fought against people, not feelings. The Bush administration uses terror as a campaign tool, so they obviously don’t even buy into their own slogan.
It’s useful for the Bush administration to continue using this slogan (which they’ll do as long as the public keeps buying into it), because it protects them from having to answer real questions like “Who are the people we are fighting this war against?”, or “Why are all our resources in Iraq when the people who attacked us on 9/11 were not from there?” You know – real questions.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:48 pmmy point is, this thread has no point. Why would it make a difference to anyone that the Bush Adm. concedes that they overestimated damage done to al Qaeda?
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:36 pm
Then why don’t you just go quietly away instead of complaining.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:48 pmTell us Zuzabell, perspiring minds want to know! ….lol…..
May 7th, 2007 at 4:49 pmWell Georgie has finally beated his daddy at something… his approval numbers at 28% are a whole point lower than Dad’s lowest at 29%.
The people I know who still support Bush do it for two main reasons – religion and war.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pmComment by Your Conscience — May 7, 2007 @ 4:41 pm
21000 hits on the google for “370HSSV-0773H”
May 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pm#9…
Oh, if only that list gets out, and this is true…………
Christmas in May………
Comment by Heyzeus — May 7, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
It appears th list has been either changed or erased.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:50 pm#9 zuzabell…..
May 7th, 2007 at 4:51 pmAre you this administrations “Linda Tripp”?
I can’t believe your the first to catch on Vinnie. But I do have a secondary motive, and that is to point out that much of what is said here is the product of over-active imaginations and getting into a habit of fearing our government is unhealthy and dangerous to you as an individual and to our entire society.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pmA military war against terrorism is like shooting at invisible mosquitoes inside a tent. None of your shots hits any of the intended targets (DUH!) and you end up with with more holes in your tent for more mosquitoes to get in.
And Bush (and the Repubs) think the solution to the problem is a bigger gun!
Good luck with that. Just be ready to evacuate from the highest buildings whenever reality sinks in.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:53 pm“The title of this thread is a joke. Or perhaps the intern that wrote it can’t remember history past yesterday. But it was funny.
Comment by Patrick1 — May 7, 2007 @ 4:47 pm”
Oh, look who’s desperately needy for some attention today…
The Intern didn’t write this, by the way.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmLike, duh.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:54 pmWhen George HW Bush goes to Saudi Arabia he stays with the Bin laden family, that’s a fact.
Comment by Conserv666atism = Fascism — May 7, 2007 @ 4:40 pm
So true, OBL is the lead actor in the reality tv show that is the Bush Administration. All scripted, all shows released for optimum exposure and results and paid for by the sponsor, us.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pmzUZABELL!!LINKS!!! FOR THE THE LOVE OF AL THAT IS GOOD AND HOLY(you know, everything Dick isn’t)GIVE US LINKS!!!
May 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pmpweeeeeeeeeease?
#26, Unbelievable,
It has been a series of things. There was no one transforming event. No WMDs found. Al Qaeda reconstituting in Pakistan. Taliban making a comeback in Afghanistan. The mission change from one of deposing Saddam to trying to manage a civil war. The Sunnis and Shiites refusing to put aside their ancient tribal and religious differences to create a better Iraq.
I am not in favor of a total withdrawal from Iraq. I support Hillary Clinton’s proposal to remove most of the U.S. troops from Iraq but also keep a effective rapid response force there outside of Baghdad to fight hunt and destory Al Qaeda elements in that country.
But it is clear that Afghanistan and Pakistan is where we need to re-concentrate our efforts and united the American people again in the fight against Al Qaeda.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:55 pm#28,
Raven….
“To accomplish what, Exley?”
To hunt down and destroy Al Qaeda and capture/kill Bin Laden.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmTo #33 – Yahweh said the oft quoted out of context “eye for an eye”, in order to limit retribution. For example, if a man’s sheep was stolen, he might go find the thief and slaughter the whole family. Yahweh was saying “the punishment must fit the crime”. Read your bible, bitch.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:56 pmAl Quaeda is a “law enforcement” problem but we are not allowed to call it that. If someone does then the conditioned cult of conservatism goes crazy. Sending the militray after them – outside of disrupting their trainging camps is insane and shortsighted.
We should be spedning about 100 billion boosting our law enforcement capabilities here and abroad, not a trillion or two in Iraq.
But we can’t play it smart, we have cow tow to the cult that took us into this insane blunder.
May 7th, 2007 at 4:57 pm“I can’t believe your the first to catch on Vinnie. But I do have a secondary motive, and that is to point out that much of what is said here is the product of over-active imaginations and getting into a habit of fearing our government is unhealthy and dangerous to you as an individual and to our entire society.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:53 pm”
Really????
I guess it’s just an imagination that Bush did absolutely NOTHING on 9/11 when he KNEW that we were under attack?????
I guess it’s just an imagination that Bush changed the EPA report, even though he knew that the air was toxic, and stated that it was safe????
I guess it’s just an imagination that our government has repeatedly performed tactics on the people to achieve the goal of a select few in power???????
I think YOU need to wake up out of your slumber and join the rest of us in the REAL world….
May 7th, 2007 at 4:59 pmThe people I know who still support Bush do it for two main reasons – religion and war.
Comment by unbelievable — May 7, 2007 @ 4:50 pm
A third group is those that refuse to admit they were wrong.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmgetting into a habit of fearing our government is unhealthy and dangerous
Anyone in the world, not just here, who does not fear these inpept fools and what THEY have done to drag our country and the world to hell, is not only a fool but chump ta’boot.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmTo hunt down and destroy Al Qaeda and capture/kill Bin Laden.
tell ‘em
May 7th, 2007 at 5:00 pmBush Shows OFF Great Progress
Republican Troop Murderers’ Advise That They Will Be Killing MORE Soldiers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070507/ts_nm/iraq_dc;_ylt=AotzTB_1dknYtZQvGV0b6mHMWM0F
“We are getting to the point now with the Baghdad security plan where there is going to be real engagement in tougher neighborhoods and you’re likely to see escalating levels of casualties,” White House spokesman Tony Snow said.
“We’ve known that, been saying it all along. We’re getting into some of the grittiest security operations.”
May 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“To hunt down and destroy Al Qaeda and capture/kill Bin Laden.
Comment by Exley — May 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
So what about Bush?????
He is a party to the crime of 9/11….. How about him????
Does he just get a pass????
May 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmIf you’re curious about knowing more about Dick Cheney — go to Wayne Madsen Report. Wayne, who gets the serious scuttlebutt and hasn’t been wrong about anything yet as far as I’ve seen, reports that calls were made to Palfrey’s operation from the vicinity of Dick’s old street address, and the White House pressured Disney and ABC to spike the story.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pmAny time THinkprogress would like to pick up THIS ASTOUNDING STORY about how the ENTIRE SUNNI BLOC OF GOVERNMENT IS GETTING READY TO LEAVE THE PARLIAMENT NEXT WEEK, that would be just dandy….
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/05/07/iraq.sunnithreat/index.html
May 7th, 2007 at 5:01 pm“I can’t believe your the first to catch on Vinnie. But I do have a secondary motive,
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:53 pm”
Oh spare us – you were busted.
Vinnie’s critique aplies to your “secondary motive” (aka moving the goal posts mid-game) as well. Now shoo.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:02 pmthe Sunnis are leaving, does that mean we(the troops can too?!?!?!?!?!
May 7th, 2007 at 5:03 pm“Read your bible, bitch.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
Your quoting a book written by man????
PLEASE!
Everyone, except you obviously, knows that the story changes from one person to the next. Most of the bible was writen at a time when it was merly a story.
Provide PROOF of a god or of the things the bible states……
Show me the evidence that the ENTIRE world was flooded and show me the ARC.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:04 pmRead your bible, bitch.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm
Has anybody told you lately where to stick that bible?
May 7th, 2007 at 5:05 pmWayne’s prettier than Linda Tripp like a lot of other other things.
http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
May 7th, 2007 at 5:05 pmListen all you stupid liberal traitors…
George W. Bush was appointed by God to lead this great nation against the sub humans inhabiting the middle east – smack dab on top of our oil. I’m not sure why God decided to give all of those towelheads that much oil, but George Bush is the God’s way of fixing this problem. And since Bush is appointed by God, Bush can not be wrong. Therefore the fact that these camel jockeys are getting stronger can not be Bush’s fault. QED. Since it isn’t Bush’s fault, by the process of eliminations, it is the fault of you stupid, Satan loving liberals traitors that inhabit sites like this. We will prevail in spite of your satanic behavior and treason and I will laugh as you all burn in Hell … forever.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:05 pm“Yahweh said the oft quoted out of context “eye for an eyeâ€, in order to limit retribution. ”
And Gandhi said “An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.” I was referencing his criticism of Yahweh, in whom I do not believe. Partly because I have read the bible and Yahweh/God/Allah is not worthy of teh effort it takes to believe in “him”.
“For example, if a man’s sheep was stolen, he might go find the thief and slaughter the whole family. Yahweh was saying “the punishment must fit the crimeâ€. Read your bible, bitch.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 4:56 pm”
I did read the bible, you ignorant freak of nature. It’s why I’m a staunch Atheist – and pacifist vegan, and you’re a disgusting supporter of violence and hatred.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:07 pmTo hunt down and destroy Al Qaeda and capture/kill Bin Laden.
Comment by Exley
Somebody has been playing Alien vs Predator all night.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pmTo hunt down and destroy Al Qaeda and capture/kill Bin Laden.
tell ‘em
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 5:00 pm
Tell who. We all knew capturing Bin Laden was important. Bush was the guy who decided he’d rather chase oil in Iraq.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:08 pmAfter the Bushies went to such lengths to let Osama get out of Tora Bora (C’mon, using his co-religionists to catch him? Even Rumsfeld’s not that stupid), this announcement is no surprise. I’m waiting to see how they try to tie Osama to Iran.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:09 pm“A third group is those that refuse to admit they were wrong.
Comment by Shane — May 7, 2007 @ 5:00 pm”
The last one of those I knew has found an out… He says that he is disappointed with how Bush is handling Iraq, but he supports him in other areas…
May 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmYou had me at pacifist vegan.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmBTW, no one has made a comment about Your Consience´s post.
That was great!
May 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmSomebody has been playing Alien vs Predator all night.
Comment by Juan C
**snort**
May 7th, 2007 at 5:10 pmIs it fair for the US to invade and occupy a sovereign nation in a failed attempt to lure Al Qaeda in to try to destroy them, while killing hundreds of thousand of innocent people in the process? Would it be fair for another country to do that to us?
May 7th, 2007 at 5:11 pm“If you’re curious about knowing more about Dick Cheney — go to Wayne Madsen Report.
Comment by Zuzabel — May 7, 2007 @ 5:01 pm”
True or not, that’s one rumor I’m willing to help spread (consider it emailed to all my friends). I detest that man…
May 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmActually Kahlil Gibran is the author of the criticism you are referring to.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:13 pmDon’t F@ck wit me fool.
Hey, this administration celebrates its incompetence.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:14 pmIf the Sunnis quit the Govt. on May 15 while the rest of the government goes on a two month vacation, look for Bush to launch Operation Fig Leaf.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:15 pm“Somebody has been playing Alien vs Predator all night.
Comment by Juan C — May 7, 2007 @ 5:08 pm”
LOL! My 16 year old gamer students are really into that :)
May 7th, 2007 at 5:17 pmShane in your #54 post I couldn’t agree more, exept I believe it’s the enormous ego that just about every republican, or whatever you want to call them, seem to posses that prevents them from admitting they’re wrong. Most of these weirdos I run into aren’t rich, own their own businesses or, appear to be very god fearing. They just want to look and act loke bigshots.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pm#50… Exley….
May 7th, 2007 at 5:18 pmThat has been tried, and OBL was allowed to escape.
You’ve got a serious case of tube-vision, dude………………
“Actually Kahlil Gibran is the author of the criticism you are referring to.
Don’t F@ck wit me fool.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007 @ 5:13 pm”
Nope, it was Gandhi.
From “the google”, multiple references:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=gandhi+quote+an+eye+for+an+eye+makes+the+whole+world+blind&btnG=Google+Search
May 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pmZoo, unB I am trying to get the exact quote when Cobra Kais are training in their dojo before Daniel enters in Karate Kid I. Exley sometimes sounds like them:
No mercy! Yes, Sensei!!!
Hehehehe
May 7th, 2007 at 5:23 pmOh jesus… do I seem like the kind of person who gets his information from google or wikipedia. Holla at me when ya do some actual reading.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:28 pm“No mercy! Yes, Sensei!!!
Comment by Juan C — May 7, 2007 @ 5:23 pm”
Exaaaaaaaaactly… :D
May 7th, 2007 at 5:29 pmCaption:
“Condi likes the “other” white meat.”
May 7th, 2007 at 5:32 pmMr. President: “Read your bible, bitch.”
Yeah, this does sound like Mr. President.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:32 pm“Oh jesus… ”
I’m not Jesus…
“do I seem like the kind of person who gets his information from google or wikipedia.”
Google is a search engine, not a reference book… It links you to other webpages that have information. You haven’t been at this very long, obviously…
But, to answer your question – no. You don;t seem like a reference at all kind of person. I’m guessing you MAKE UP all your “information”. LOL
“Holla at me when ya do some actual reading.
Comment by Mr. President — May 7, 2007@ 5:28 pm”
Since I gave up the bible, I read Science books, not fiction. You should give it a try.
“Atheist Universe” by David Mills gives the real explanation of the universe sans Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy and God.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:34 pmMr. President: “do I seem like the kind of person who gets his information from google or wikipedia”
No. To me you sound like an ignorant bible thumper who thinks he’s got it right even when he’s got it wrong.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:35 pmMost of these weirdos I run into aren’t rich, own their own businesses or, appear to be very god fearing. They just want to look and act loke bigshots.
Comment by the Lone Voice of Reason — May 7, 2007 @ 5:18 pm
And they all consider themselves “The haves and have mores” that Bush calls “his base”.
Listen, if your one of the people who got excited when Bush gave you a $600 advance on your tax refund, and you’re a Bush supporter, you’re an idiot. If you’re a paid troll, and that’s the best job you can get, and you believe in Bush, get some antipsychotics.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:36 pmComment by unbelievable — May 7, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
unbelievable, thanks for straigtening out “Mr. President” a tedious to distraction troll.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:38 pmWhen it’s too painfully obvious to the Rethugs that this is over and a failure. They will say the US lost the will to win.
Asses.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:39 pm“Atheist Universe†by David Mills gives the real explanation of the universe sans Santa Claus, Tooth Fairy and God.
Comment by unbelievable — May 7, 2007 @ 5:34 pm
Mr. President’s mother is going to be angry that you told her baby the facts.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:41 pm“unbelievable, thanks for straigtening out “Mr. President†a tedious to distraction troll.
Comment by Shane — May 7, 2007 @ 5:38 pm”
I doubt he heard me :) Freaks like that never do. He’d be one of those “can’t admit he’s wrong” Bush apologists…
“Mr. President’s mother is going to be angry that you told her baby the facts.
Comment by Shane — May 7, 2007 @ 5:41 pm”‘
He’s probably crying to her right now… And like hacker bob’s wife once did, should show up shortly to set me straight… LOL
May 7th, 2007 at 5:51 pmBush’s foreign policy is heading off a cliff. Gas is above $3, the real estate market is in the tank, and the stock Market has “bubble” written all over it. Progressives need to think long and hard about how to frame things,and pick up the pieces of Bush’s disasterous presidency. It is always easier to Recognize a Good Idea, than it is to Have a good Idea…but good Ideas are what we all will need.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:52 pmAnd we need a leader who can articulate the problems and come up with solutions.
#82, Raven:
“That has been tried, and OBL was allowed to escape.”
Exactly…That is why I wrote specifically we must re-double our efforts in the Afghanistan-Pakistan theater.
May 7th, 2007 at 5:55 pmFound it!!!
What do we study here?
May 7th, 2007 at 6:05 pmKarate Class: THE WAY OF THE FIST SIR.
Kreese: And what is that way?
Karate Class: STRIKE FIRST. STRIKE HARD. NO MERCY SIR.
Kreese: I can’t hear you.
Karate Class: STRIKE FIRST. STRIKE HARD. NO MERCY SIR.
“I am not in favor of a total withdrawal from Iraq. I support Hillary Clinton’s proposal to remove most of the U.S. troops from Iraq but also keep a effective rapid response force there outside of Baghdad to fight hunt and destory Al Qaeda elements in that country”
There won’t be any necessity to leave our people behind to fight Al Qaeda. The Iraqi’s hate AlQaeda and the minute we leave, they will throw them out on their ears. The only reason why they tolerate them now is because they are helping them kill Americans. Take the target away and there will be no reason for the Iraqi’s to allow Al Qaeda to stay. There will only be one reason for us to leave our troops behind and that will be to protect the oil if we are able to steal it from the Iraqi’s. But right now, the Iraqi’s are winning on that one too.
May 7th, 2007 at 6:07 pm#97 Exley…
May 7th, 2007 at 6:17 pmAnd so, were we to redeploy to Afghanistan (and Pakistan?) we will have a convergeance of Islamists from all over the Middle East following us there.
To a landscape which, as I stated previously, is much more barren, and conducive to bombing, strafing, and armed droning on and on……
The kind of expensive, high tech and low mortality to American troops warfare that the weapons manufacturers and the virtual generals love best.
Bin Laden most likely considers Bush to be the “best” ally he’s ever had. Mission Accomplished.
May 7th, 2007 at 6:19 pmI would say the fact that Clinton let him attack at will probably puts that reprobate as top OBL friend.
May 7th, 2007 at 6:31 pmHow many times do we have to point out, Al Qaeda was an invention of the CIA?
Starting from that point, that changes everything.
http://prisonplanet.tv/articles/june2004/062504manufacturedfront.htm
Just one of many items about it on the Google…
May 7th, 2007 at 6:32 pmAt last a fact!
May 7th, 2007 at 6:36 pmgo to Wayne Madsen Report. Wayne, who gets the serious scuttlebutt and hasn’t been wrong about anything yet as far as I’ve seen
Madsen is a sensationalist who often doesn’t document his BS.
He recently reported that the new UN head was likely a moonie and he had no proof other than Ban Ki-Moon said he was an “unaffiliated” Christian. That misinformation of Masden’s went around the world.
Madsen does honest reporting a disservice, imo. He sensationalizes subjects that deserve major reporting and by doing so gives real reporters pause. Then the facts about things like Moon’s REAL efforts to manipulate the UN go uncovered.
He says things many want to hear. I wouldn’t trust a thing he says. There is a reason you won’t see him quoted many places.
In fact, he does his own reporting a disservice because he could have a big story and no one will follow it.
May 7th, 2007 at 6:39 pmThe facts are out t here…
May 7th, 2007 at 6:42 pmIt’s too bad that our “national security” people didn’t spend a little more time researching terrorists’ mindsets and organizational practices (it’s not like there haven’t been plenty of terrorist organizations in the last 50+ years to research). A little research–granted, not exactly a neocon practice–might have rewarded the Administration with this little tidbit: Successful terrorist groups operate in small cells, kept largely unaware of others NOT in their immediate cells by their higher-up contacts (who tend to operate under a great deal of secrecy) so as to minimize a massive collapse when “little fish” get captured. (Additionally, there’s a fair amount of “refreshing” which predated the internet concept–updating plans to factor in last-minute changes.)
May 7th, 2007 at 6:51 pmAll the Bushies had to do was talk with British intelligence about the IRA or talk with Italian intelligence about the Red Brigades or talk with Spanish intelligence about ETA or even spend some time with Israeli intel about the various Palestinian groups (PLO, Hamas, PFLP). But, no. That kind of talk would’ve done something that *might* have found bin Laden. Of course, all a capture of bin Laden would really have achieved is a shift in terrorist leaders (and as bin Laden is VERY popular, especially in Afghanistan and the NWFP region of Pakistan, I have little doubt that there would be a massive upsurge in al-Qaeda recruiting with a whole host of potential new leaders).
Republicans Are Murderer’s of our US Troops. Just the FACTS!
May 7th, 2007 at 6:54 pm# 99, Katie:
You have valid points. We actually see some of what you describe going on right now in Anbar province. Sunni militants have now turned against Al Qaeda and are working (albeit, tentatively so) with U.S. and Iraqi government forces.
ANBAR RISING: Life Returns to Ramadi; Uneasy Alliance Is Taming One Insurgent Bastion
April 29, 2007, Sunday
By KIRK SEMPLE (NYT); Foreign Desk
Section 1, Page 1,
“Anbar Province, long the lawless heartland of the tenacious Sunni Arab resistance, is undergoing a surprising transformation. Violence is ebbing in many areas, shops and schools are reopening, police forces are growing and the insurgency appears to be in retreat. ”Many people are challenging the insurgents,” said the governor …”
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60710FF385A0C7A8EDDAD0894DF404482
If the Sunnis could defeat Al Qaeda all by themselves, that would be fantastic. However, there is reason to doubt that can happen given Al Qaeda’s resources and ruthlessness. Perhaps U.S. assistance to any indigenous Iraqi fight against Al Qaeda could be limited to logistical support, intelligence gathering, and air strikes.
May 7th, 2007 at 7:24 pmWe are presently being SET-UP for a false flag nuclear attack.
Our own government is going to attack us.
Brian Williams implied it in his questioning of the Democratic Presidential candidates – and even 60 minutes raised the specter of the possibility last night in their interview with Lou Dobbs.
It Is Coming.
Cheney has promised it.
Whenever you hear anyone mention the name “Bin Laden,” demand that they prove his existence, or shut up with the fear mongering.
Your government is going to attack YOU and ten IRAN and SYRIA with nukes.
It’s coming any day.
May 7th, 2007 at 7:26 pmRe: 110 If people are forewarned maybe they can start calling their congressmen (if that ever helps). Getting the word out through blogging seems to be the most effective at this point.
Other web sites (yeah the tin foil hat kind – but they’re correct more frequently than incorrect) have indicated that special training for catastrophic events is going on in Indiana and the Twin Cities, MN area.
When crazy people are cornered is when they are most dangerous.
May 7th, 2007 at 7:58 pmch’know who you fah’keds remind me of?
Stan’s sister Shelley from South Park. Turrrddss!!!
Hey unbelievably ignorant, check your facts. I’m an atheist myself, if you weren’t such a militant individualist you would have realized that knowledge of the bible doesn’t make you religious. As a science fan you should be open to all information.
May 7th, 2007 at 8:30 pmI’ve said from day one that al-Qaeda is not what it is portrayed to be. It was essentially S.P.E.C.T.R.E (SPecial Executive for Counter-intelligence, Terrorism, Revenge and Extortion). Note that Spectre is a kind of undead, phantom. al-Qaeda was a minor organization that achieved an accidental major success. There was no al-Qaeda network, no international conspiracy, no unified jihad–the idea of a unified jihad among Muslims from different areas, ethnic groups and Sunni divisions is preposterous.
There is no question that there were plenty of relatively independent terrorist groups prior to September 11, whose targets were mainly Americans and Jews of any national origin. But the connections between these groups were tenuous at best. Some Palestinian terrorist groups had been trained by Carlos (the Jackal) in the 1970s and early 80s, so there were some connections there. The PLO and its constituent organizations created a number of rival terrorist groups, but many of them hated each other as much or more as they hated Americans (but not Israelis–always the top target). But the Gulf War in 1991 contributed to some unification among various terrorist groups because now Americans were no longer an abstract target, but an invader. At the same time, any external controls that the Russians exercised in the 1970s and 80s was gone–the Russians, having lost Afghanistan and the Warsaw Pact, were no longer interested in maintaining ties with these groups. That cut off the initial major source of funding, so the groups had to switch to self-reliance. That meant that the number of groups was going to dwindle significantly. Sponsorship by Sudan, Yemen, Uganda and the Afghan Taliban, combined with private wealth of some of its members, such as bin Laden, limited the scope of these groups, but continued to nourish them. Because the individuals with the purse strings had the control, they got to run the agenda.
Bin Laden’s group–whether that was the original al-Qaeda or not (it’s an irrelevant point, really)–was supported and sponsored by the Taleban. But the connection was tenuous, as the Taleban had made overtures to expel bin Laden or even turn him over in exchange for certain concessions. This did not materialize and, after the bombing of the Buddha statues, the Taleban grew increasingly isolated, so they turned to their internal friends instead. The US was not Taleban’s enemy, but the groups that came to Afghanistan to fight the invaders needed a new target. They found it in the US that maintained continuous presence in Saudi Arabia. bin Laden, who used to be on the US leash at one point, and his group used their better than average resources to recruit and train a large contingent of “pilots”.
But this does not mean that there was an extensive network. In fact, if there was a network of the kind ascribed to al-Qaeda shortly after 9/11, it would have been a lot easier to intercept them and to terminate the plot (unless the intelligence were completely inept, which it wasn’t). But how can the US government admit that it was outsmarted–with disastrous results–by a ragtag group of terrorist misfits that just happened to succeed beyond their wildest dreams? Not possible!
They had to puff up al-Qaeda beyond any proportions hitherto known. Al-Qaeda became a myth and one cannot destroy a myth. They could have killed every single al-Qaeda fighter and still end up with a live al-Qaeda group (just think of the “I’m Brian of Nazareth!” scene in the Life of Brian). By claiming that there was a broad-based al-Qaeda network, they effectively created one. Now every minor terrorist group that wanted to be recognized could claim its association with al-Qaeda. How can one track a connection between two parts of the same group if the connection is completely fictional?
Is al-Qaeda in Iraq really connected with the original al-Qaeda? Without infiltrators, it cannot be known. And, judging from the success the US has had against it, they have no intelligence within the group. Is the current group in Pakistan/Afghanistan that claims to be al-Qaeda the original al-Qaeda? Probably so, although it is equally probable that only the leadership is the same, as well as the funds. The Iraq War has provided them not only with an invaluable recruitment tool, but also with funding. The original al-Qaeda and the al-Qaeda in Iraq do have something in common–their members are mostly not natives of the region where they fight. In Afghanistan, that put them at an advantageous position, because the Taleban needed friends–especially friends with money. But is that the case of al-Qaeda in Iraq? No! This group of lunatics is actually opposed by local Sunni groups–both those that engage in terrorism and those that do not. And, certainly, they are bitter enemies of the Shiite groups.
The latter point is most significant, because the idiots in Washington–both the Republicans and the talking heads that prop them up–have been beating the drums of war against Iran and pointing their fingers at al-Qaeda in Iraq as evidence of Iranian activity. And the Washington journalist corps will not question this nonsense! The claims make no more sense than they did when these idiots tried to pin the IEDs on Iran. Iran cannot and will not plausibly support most Sunni insurgent groups, but under no circumstances would they support a group like al-Qaeda, which is its sworn enemy. If anything, it is the US that supports the anti-Iranian terrorist groups that may well be allied with al-Qaeda. But, all we hear from Washington is that al-Qaeda is the modern–and non-fictional–equivalent of S.P.E.C.T.R.E. It is a phantom group that aims to destroy Western Civilization through means not dissimilar from those concocted by Fleming’s imagination.
Since the group is largely phantom and they keep looking in the wrong places, of course, Bush&Co could not possibly destroy them. In fact, they’ve done everything to make the group successful beyond its wildest dreams. If the US moved out of Iraq and gave up its bases in Saudi Arabia, any semblance of al-Qaeda in Iraq would be wiped out in a matter of weeks. The problem is that this may have an unfortunate side-effect of essentially a genocide of Iraqi Sunnis, irrespectively of whether they are involved in the insurgency or not. But it is too late to make this problem a priority–the mess is already made and there is nothing the US can do to prevent further escalation. They may delay the eventual coming disaster, but they cannot stop it by military means.
About the only way to prevent this disaster right now is through normalizing relations with Iran and persuading Iran to exercise its influence to protect Sunni civilians in Iraq. This will not happen as long as the Bush clan is in power. We can double the footprint in Iraq and that may slow down the intra-Iraqi bloodshed. But it will result in increased casualties, which is exactly what the new al-Qaeda tape claims. If there is one skill that the real al-Qaeda proved to have it is the ability to play the propaganda game. Whatever their other goals might be, they certainly have not achieved them. Yet, being essentially a phantom group, they evaded capture and avoided destruction–it’s impossible to destroy the group that does not really exist. The trouble is, now every successful terrorist will claim that he’s a member of al-Qaeda. It will be impossible for US and ally intelligence to figure out if these connections are true or not–we’ve created a monster that cannot be caged.
May 7th, 2007 at 8:39 pmThere was no al-Qaeda network, no international conspiracy, no unified jihad–the idea of a unified jihad among Muslims from different areas,
are you retarded?
May 7th, 2007 at 9:03 pmBut the Gulf War in 1991 contributed to some unification among various terrorist groups because now Americans were no longer an abstract target, but an invader
More like Obama bin Laden got jealous when the Saudi’s chose us over his organized militia
retard
May 7th, 2007 at 9:05 pmIf the US moved out of Iraq and gave up its bases in Saudi Arabia, any semblance of al-Qaeda in Iraq would be wiped out in a matter of weeks.
What are talking about, dumbass
May 7th, 2007 at 9:06 pmthe mess is already made and there is nothing the US can do to prevent further escalation.
Maybe if a pussy like you were in charge,
May 7th, 2007 at 9:08 pmLook, Ob/sama’s network and Iran had a mutual enemy in Iraq because Sadam was getting to close to the Kingdom.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:14 pmMr. President,
Aren’t you a nasty little troll!? Do you meet with all the other little trollies in the troll locker room at the “West Hollywood All Male Nude Gym?†Maybe you know VV (he goes there regularly) and Patrick1. How about Jake? You know Jake? Well no matter.
I guess it is enough to know that you are the real “dumbass” on this thread today. Congratulations!
Toooodles…
May 7th, 2007 at 9:31 pmAh, poor Mr. President Jackass, you have met your match in the very scholarly essay by buck turgidson. I second his conclusion. You can check out the essay by Canadian military analyst Gwynne Dyer who says about the same thing.
BTW, how’s your own essay coming? What was it on? Triumph of the Will? Or Machiavelli for Dummies? Your idiotic “Ob/sama” line reveals you as the troll we all suspected. Independent, my ass. Philosophy student? Sophistry student more like it. “How to make the weaker argument defeat the stronger?” LOL.
Saddam was getting close to what Kingdom? DisneyWorld? Don’t make me laugh. Saddam was not a military threat in 2003. The US and Britain had been bombing Iraq every couple of months for the past decade. And the UN weapons inspectors should have been allowed to do their job instead of sending 3300+ American soldiers to their deaths because Bush wasn’t a patient man.
Blood is on your hands Mr. President. You can’t wash it off. It will drag you down in history as the Worst President EVER.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:34 pmI wholeheartedly endorse Buch Turgidson’s critique. A beautifully written essay. And I’m sorry, Mr. President, but you are hopelessly out of touch with reality.
Oh, and that line about being a poor philosophy student and independent, you can drop it after that low brow “Ob/sama” crack. No one in philosophy would make such a boneheaded comment. You must be an MBA.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:44 pmMr. President, no NASCAR today? You’ve been trolling the blogs all day. Why don’t you get a job loser? You and your little cornhole buddies need to go back to listening to Rush and leave the thinking to real men and women. I’m so tired of inbreed wannabe’s that make no sense and have no point come in here and say stupid shit such as your self. If you want to debate issues that’s one thing, but you never do, never will, and don’t have the aptitude to pull your head out of your ass long enough to realize that your a fool.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:49 pmNo reason to be upset by a wee little troll. Personally, I think, he exemplifies his kind quite well–a bizarre mixture of penis envy and complete lack of original thought. I actually admire his zeal to respond that drove him to read most of my post–in that capacity, he is a step ahead of the President (or should I refer to him as PINO?). It was probably the greatest intellectual effort he’s made in a month.
May 7th, 2007 at 9:58 pm#102 – “I would say the fact that Clinton let him attack at will probably puts that reprobate as top OBL friend.” Comment by Patrick1 — May 7, 2007 @ 6:31 pm
I would say that Pres. Bush was his best friend.
Pres. Bush did nothing to stop the Sept. 11th attacks, despite the warnings from the out-going Clinton Administration.
There were no foreign attacks on US soil after the 1993 Feb attempt on the WTC. It wasn’t until AFTER Pres. Clinton left office that foreign terrorists were able to exploit the failure that was the Bush Administrations concept of national defense.
Pres. Bush has flip-flopped more often than a neo-con on if he’ll ever consider following up on his “promise ” of hunting Usama bin Laden down. Let me guess, you’re going to give Pres. Bush 3-6 more months for success on that failed adventure as well, right?
May 7th, 2007 at 10:02 pmHERE WE GO AGAIN……
ALL TOTALLY CORRUPT BUSH CAN TALK ABOUT IS
THE BIG BAD TERRORISTS………..
DUDE……. WHAT ABOUT THE ECONOMY, WHAT ABOUT
PEOPLE NEEDING HEALTH CARE JOBS, SERVICES…. OH
NO NO NO, COULDN’T HAVE THAT
SEE.. JACKIE KNOW LINDA WHO KNOWS ALL THE TOTALLY
CORRUPT CESSPOOL OF PARASITES AND LEECHES TO OUTSOURCE
AND TO LINE THEIR POCKETS FOR HEALTH INSURANCE AND LOOSENING
OF CLEAN AIR/WATER
IT IS SO DOG GONE CORRUPT, IT’S ENOUGH TO……………
I’M GOING TO SAY THAT THIS “THING” BABBLES ON ABOUT
NOTHING ELSE THAN TERRORISTS FOR WHAT 6 FRIGGIN
YEARS WHILE A CESSPOOL OF PARASITES CONTINUE TO
INFEST YOU AND ME WITH TOTAL CORRUPTION.
WONDERFUL SERVICES WE ALL GET, FOR OVER 50%… FOR
$1 IN EARNINGS, YOU GET 33% AND WE GET 66%… FINE..
ALL THESE WONDERFUL SERVICES, TOO BAD YOU CAN’T
FRIGGIN GET THEM…. DOESN’T MATTER, YOU GET 1/3 AND
WE GET 2/3
CORRUPT I SAY, TOTALLY CORRUPT
ENOUGH TO MAKE EVERYONE
P
May 7th, 2007 at 10:31 pmU
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Actually, low blows and cheap shots are what philosophy of the ground. Read Philostratus’ “Lives of Sophists” and Diogenes Laertius’ “Lives and Opinions of Emminent Philosophers” for ancient low blows. In for Modern philosophy, see what Descartes thought of the Scholastics, what Hume thought of Descartes, what Schopenhauer thought of Hegel, what Nietzsche thought of Schopenhauer/Hegel/Plato/Christianity. If it’s Postmodern you like, see what Carnap thought of Heidegger, what Merleau-Ponty thought Analytic, what Sartre thought of Camus/Merleau-Ponty after they criticized his politics.
And yes, I’m gay. What of it?
May 7th, 2007 at 10:33 pmAHH! ITS TOO MUCH PRESSURE… TWEAK
May 7th, 2007 at 10:35 pmAND ALSO………
FOR ALL THESE WONDERFUL SERVICES WE ARE ALL SUPPOSE TO GET
ALL FRIGGIN TOTALLY CORRUPT BUSH BABBLES ON ABOUT IS BIG OLE
BAD TERRORISTS
LISTEN…. THAT IS ONE SERVICE WE ARE SUPPOSE TO GET, UNFORTUNATELY DEPT OF DEFENSE IS TOTALLY CORRUPTED
AND A ENTIRE CESSPOOL OF PARASITES PROFITEERING
KNOW WHAT ABOUT ALL THE OTHER SERVICES WE ARE SUPPOSE
TO GET…. NOW THAT IS A COMPLETE DISASTER AND FRIGGIN TOTALLY
LOSER BUSH CAN’T EVEN ACCOMPBLISH KATRINA OR IN FACT THE MOST
MINIMAL ESSENTIAL SERVICES
THERE’S LOTS OF SERVICES WE ARE SUPPOSE TO GET… UNFORTUNATELY
YOU WILL GET FAR SUPERIOR SERVICE AT MCDONALDS THAN ANY
SO CALLED GOVERNMENT SERVICE TO SERVE THE PEOPLE ….. WHY
DUDE WHY……….
BECAUSE LINDA KNOWS JAMIE KNOW WANDA KIND OF CRAP…. THEY
SURE GET THE SERVICE LIKE A NICE JUICY GOVERNMENT CONTRACT
PARASITES LEECHING OFF OUR 66%, YOUR LUCKY IF YOU GET ONE
SINGLE PENNY OF SERVICE BY THE TIME $1 IS PAID FOR ALL THE
SERVICES WE GET
IT’S FRIGGIN DOGGONE DISGUSTING ENOUGH PUKE ALL THESE PARASITES
May 7th, 2007 at 10:41 pmOUT AND GET SOME REAL SERVICES THAT WILL SERVE US
jimbo dude, don’t call us. We’ll call you. Even Ashton Kutcher does a better stoner than you do. Back to the Actor’s Studio for you.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:46 pmI’m truly concerned about George W. Bush.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:47 pmHe is truly mad.
Not pissed off, phucking crazy.
Do you think jimbo dude forgot to undo his Caps Lock when he became Mr. President? Seems suspicious to me.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:48 pmTo me, the most shocking, puzzling thing Bush has been able to get away with is not capturing Bin Laden–and for that matter, stating he didn’t care if he ever did.
Every time I read that quote, I boggle.
That should have lost him 2004 (presuming fair elections). Losing Bin Laden in Tora Bora, or letting him escape, or whatever the hell happened, should have sparked an investigation into why and/or brought down the Bush Admin entirely.
May 7th, 2007 at 10:56 pmand the White House pressured Disney and ABC to spike the story.
Whoever is on that list, it is quite clear ABC was pressured to bury the story. You’d have to have your head up Republican ass to believe a sex scandal involving hookers and WH/Pentagon officials is suddenly “not interesting” enough for the MSM.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:15 pmHehe, Mr. President is still posting? Fool.
May 7th, 2007 at 11:40 pmOddly, Republicans are symbiotic with terrorism. World terrorism has tripled under their watch.
May 8th, 2007 at 6:48 amNo surprise here. Bush has ALWAYS been wrong about EVERYTHING. What else can you expect from a religious fanatic?
May 8th, 2007 at 11:02 amWhy hasn’t Congress decided to seriously investigate this?
The threat ever since 1992 has always been UBL and extremism. Bin Laden’s first attacks might not have been at Khobar Towers, but his guilt and association with that and a successive wave of terror attacks was fairly well-known by most senior intel types, long before 9/11. That Dubya and Cheney could have deflected raw emotions to avenge 9/11 by lying to the public for 5 and 2/3 long years seems to have been an egregious abuse of power. Don’t other republicans feel that way, too?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pmBush=Bin Laden.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:25 pm