Romney Says It’s ‘Entirely Possible’ That Saddam Had WMD And Hid Them In Syria
Romney Says It’s ‘Entirely Possible’ That Saddam Had WMD And Hid Them In Syria
While most have long given up on the theory that Saddam Hussein possessed weapons of mass destruction, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is still a believer. Last night on Fox’s Hannity & Colmes, host Sean Hannity asked Romney whether he thought Iraq hid weapons of mass destruction in Syria prior to the invasion. “It’s entirely possible,” Romney said.
Watch it:
Syria did not hide WMD that Saddam Hussein did not have. In April 2005, amidst accusations by Dick Cheney that Hussein transfered weapons to Syria prior to the war, Charles Duelfer of the the Iraq Survey Group (ISG) published an addendum to the ISG’s report on pre-war intelligence explaining that Iraq did not ship weaponry to Syria:
On Syria, the report said that “no information gleaned from questioning Iraqis supported the possibility” that weapons were moved out of the country before the invasion, which was one theory about why no unconventional weapons were found. … Mr. Duelfer reported that his group, the Iraq Survey Group, believed “it was unlikely that an official transfer of W.M.D. material from Iraq to Syria took place.”
Even President Bush, who is known to exaggerate intelligence, admitted after Duelfer’s ISG report that “Iraq did not have the weapons that our intelligence believed were there.”
Transcript:
HANNITY: You have kind words for the president, considering the challenging times that we live in. Even though he has low approval ratings. You believe this was still the right thing. If you had to make the decision, based on what we know now, if you were the president there, do you think you would have done the same thing?
M. ROMNEY: Well, it’s almost a null set. Which is if we knew that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction, and if he had complied with the United Nations resolutions to allow IAEA inspectors into his country, we wouldn’t be having this conversation. We wouldn’t have been having the U.N. sanction him. We wouldn’t have had the U.S. angry. So it’s kind of a null set. It’s impossible.
HANNITY: Am I the only one here thinking that in all the build- up to the war that those weapons of mass destruction got moved to Syria?
M. ROMNEY: It’s possible. It’s entirely possible.
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Sure, he sent them all to Syria, and the Iraqis who moved them there have been nice enough to not use them on us. Right.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:22 pmNO. The WMD were in the Conservatory, hidden by Col. Mustard with a lead pipe.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:23 pmWe do know he won’t ever make any again. Thank you President Bush.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:23 pmQuick! Invade Syria!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:24 pmIf the WMD line worked in 2003, surely it’ll work again.
Hey, Romney! It’s also possible you are a first class idiot!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:25 pmOMG, I thought they finished the Kool Aid. They must have made a fresh batch.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:25 pmComment by david
ROFL!!! Love it!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:26 pmOr that he painted them with invisible ink and we just cant see them.
Or that space aliens sucked them up their butts.
Or that some guy stuffed his face into a hat and dictated a whole new book of the Bible.
Whatever– anything’s possible, right?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:28 pmDoesn’t really matter much, does it?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:30 pmThese criminals now make their own laws and choose which laws they will abide by.
There never was WMDs and they will NEVER be held accountable unless we make it so, using something other than traditional methods .
Thanks for playing our game, and enjoy your parting gifts, Mitt!!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:31 pmJohnny, who’s our next contestant on “The Putz Is Wrong”?
It’s “entirely possible” that Mitt Romney says whatever he thinks the audience wants to hear…
May 8th, 2007 at 3:31 pmIt is also entirely possible, that Bush will eventually make a decision that is not motivated by greed or pride. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:31 pmHi! I’m Saddam.
Mind if I hide a few of my weapons here in your country?
Thanks, you’re the best!
-xoxo
May 8th, 2007 at 3:32 pmPay him no mind — it’s just something he’s got to say to appease the 28 percenters. He can’t actually believe it. Can he?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:32 pmMitt later added, “any no one could foresee that terrorists might fly planes into the world trade center. And certainly no one envisioned that the levees in New Orleans would fail. . . . I live in a land of rainbows and candycanes.”
May 8th, 2007 at 3:33 pmMr. Duelfer reported that his group, the Iraq Survey Group, believed “it was unlikely that an official transfer of W.M.D. material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, I.S.G. was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited W.M.D.-related materials.”
http://www.nytimes.com/ 2005/ 04/ 26/ international/ middleeast/ 26weapons.html?ex=1272168000&en=759ec4426ad2c84f&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
May 8th, 2007 at 3:34 pmIt’s entirely possible that Mit is certified nuts. Pandering to the militant right wing of the republican party, what a weasel!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:34 pmI’ve come to the conclusion that some people would literally explode if they had to face the fact that their government lied to them.
I used to work with a nice fellow who was sure, absolutely SURE, that Saddam must have had WMDs. Because his leaders were telling him that, so it must be true. He was incapable of even entertaining the idea that he’d been manipulated and lied to. I kind of felt sorry for him.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:34 pmIt’s fun to watch these morons self destruct. Wait until this comes up in a debate! Is there a SINGLE VIABLE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE??
May 8th, 2007 at 3:34 pmYes, they sent their ONLY defense of an invading army to a country that they were not even allies with. That sounds like GOP/Sean Hannity logic to me. Not to mention that all credible sources (including the GOPee run Government) say otherwise. DUH!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pmthe propaganda campaign for the promotion of new wars continues unabated….
as long as they perpetuate the lie, some people will believe this. Goebbels knew this decades ago, and the lie will persist with these criminals today.
The reality is that Saddam Hussein, the evil dictator, was actually more trustworthy than the “leader of the free world” A sad state of affairs this nation has sunk to.
some reading on this:
“Saddam was Right and Bush was Wrong”
May 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ saddam_was_right_and_bush_was_wrong
Yeah, I’ll bet that what he did — moved them to Syria. He didn’t want to waste his most devastating weapons on a silly little American invasion. He was saving them for something really BIG. Plus Saddam figured that if he hid his WMDs, he’d make President Bush look really bad — and thaht was more important to Saddam than anything. More important than defending his borders, more important than maintaining power, more important than staying alive even.
Now he can laugh last.
Is that how the thinking goes?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pmOf course, it’s entirely possible Romney is blowing hot air.
Actually, it is more than likely.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:37 pmBahahahaha!
The only thing more pathetic than Mittwit, is the undeniable fact that there’s still an audience he’s apparently appealing to that is demented enough to keep swallowing this bongwater! Republicans aren’t just stupid, they’re lunkheaded submissives who just want to be told what to think!
How embarrassing!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:37 pmHey folks, remember that these candidates are the the finest the republic party has to offer.
What a laughingstock this group is. First McBush took the stage about the surge and downtown shopping, and now its Romney with the WMDs. Who is up next? And we have a long way to go and encores to enjoy. Get out the popcorn.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:37 pmOH, shut up.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:38 pmThat’s pretty talented of Saddam to move all those WMD’s without our intellegence community knowing a darn thing about it. And those satellites not noticing anything either.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:39 pmMemo to Mitt (the dipsh*t) Romney:
The only people crazy enough to vote for your little Bush lackey a** in 2008 is the pathetic 28% who worship Chimpy.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:40 pmThe WMDs were supposed to be sent to Syria, but the guy driving made a wrong turn and his buddy couldn’t read a map. The last anyone saw them, they were in North Dakota looking for John Travolta and Tom Cruise.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:42 pm“It’s also entirely possible that the founder of my religion found ‘extra, special’ books of the Bible hidden inside of rocks!”
May 8th, 2007 at 3:42 pmComment by mikey r — May 8, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
Great explanation mikey. Don’t forget that Saddam would never fear that his Baathist brothers in Syria would never use those WMD to attack Iraq someday, and that they would happily return every drop after the Americans left.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:43 pmEnemies here! Enemies there!!! Enemies everywhere!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:43 pmRomney’s statement is not that much at odds with what what Duelfer said:
‘Mr. Duelfer reported that his group, the Iraq Survey Group, believed “it was unlikely that an official transfer of W.M.D. material from Iraq to Syria took place. However, I.S.G. was unable to rule out unofficial movement of limited W.M.D.-related materials.”‘
“unlikely” and “unable to rule out” and “possible” are not mutually exclusive terms. Romney did not say that that it was definitely happened. It’s possible…Unlikely, but possible.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:43 pmRemeber McClown and his ’stroll’ through a Baghdad market with a hundred troops and 5 helicopters!
Bahahahahahahaha!
The late night comics risk becoming obsolete as long as the republican candidates are allowed airtime! Republicans ought to rename their debates: “Last Comic Standing!”
GOP headquarters: The Comedy Store!
Bahahahahahaha!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:45 pmPatrick, there weren’t any WMDs. Besides, if there were, and they were moved to Syria, wouldn’t this be an abject failure of oversight and execution on the part of your hero Bush?
Patrick, there is simply no sense in what you write.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:45 pm“NO. The WMD were in the Conservatory, hidden by Col. Mustard with a lead pipe.
Comment by david — May 8, 2007 @ 3:23 pm”
Hilarious!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmhe forgot the part about russia and china helping.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pmAnd it’s entirely possible that an angel gave a carney fortune teller from New York a bunch of golden plates to hide under his bed for him to translate with stones on his eyes and start a brand new cult. Something like, “You let me sniff your daughter’s panties and I will make sure you get to heaven. And you young boys, give me 10% of whatever you make and I will make you a God, with your own planet and everything!”
And it’s entirely possible that both of these stories are total bullshit.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pmMaybe you all have conveniently forgot that almost everyone (Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, the French, the British, the U.N., etc, etc) thought that Saddam had WMD. And almost everyone thought he shouldn’t have them. You may have forgotton, but I haven’t. If Bush is guilty of anything, it is taking action in a post 9/11 world to address a preceived threat that almost everyone agreed on (the speech’s are there, look them up). The finest of the democratic party would be incapable of that kind of action. That will become apparent, if and when you get your anti-war democrat in the White House and they drag their feet pulling the troops out; paralyzed by fear of the political consequences.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pmAnother fine example of fear mongering and another reason why the republican party will be damaged for years to come.
Exley, does it mean that since nobody has ever seen a monkey fly out of your butt doesn’t mean it never happened?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pm#22 Agreed…That does sound laughably implausible.
Almost as absurd as believing Bush knew all along that there weren’t really any weapons of mass destruction, but told the nation and the world there were, invaded Iraq for the stated purpose of disarming Iraq of WMDs, while all the while knowing that no such weapons would be found, and thereby commiting an almost certain act of political suicide.
Is that how the thinking goes?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmMitt swallowed the kool ade given to us by Rumsfeld. Only Rummy was trying to carry water for PNAC and give us a cause to invade Syria, their number one target. Is this what Mitt is picking up on? Is this Caryle flunky aiming for Syria, now?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:50 pmI used to work with a nice fellow who was sure, absolutely SURE, that Saddam must have had WMDs. Because his leaders were telling him that, so it must be true. He was incapable of even entertaining the idea that he’d been manipulated and lied to. I kind of felt sorry for him.
Comment by margaret
Hey, Margaret, tell us. How is Exley in person? ;)
May 8th, 2007 at 3:50 pmIt’s “entirely possible” that Mitt Romney has a family of drunken, albino gerbils living inside his sphincter too — but i doubt it …
May 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pmNo, the Easter Bunny is hiding the bloody WMDs.
Let’s be honest. This guy Rooney is is in full delirium. Maybe a bucket of cold water would help.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pmRomney all ready went on record as saying that Saddam gave them to Joseph Smith to hide in his hat. What is with this flip flop?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pmthis guy is like so 2003!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:52 pmLook under your bed, Mittens.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:52 pmMore likely you’ll find them there.
Did Romney look under Chimp’s desk in the Oval Office?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pmMaybe you all have conveniently forgot that almost everyone (Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, the French, the British, the U.N., etc, etc) thought that Saddam had WMD.
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
And you are conveniently failing to mention that Bush lied about the intelligence that led everyone to this conclusion. Why are you doing this? Are you a liar yourself? Certainly intellectually dishonest at the least.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pm#41…. Exley….
May 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pmPretty much how the thinking went.
G. Dubious was HOPING there might be some sort of WMD there, but that is all he had.
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
Regardless of what anyone believed then, to believe now, several years later, that Sadaam had WMD and hid them in Syria, is totally ludicrous. Of course everyone thought he had WMD, that is why the UN weapons inspectors were there (until Bush kicked them out). But now, four years later, we KNOW there were no WMD. Bush blames faulty intelligence. Rumsfeld blamed Germany. But NO ONE is stupid enough to believe he actually had them and then moved them to Syria.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pmpaul…you are so sweet to distribute the lies all over a bunch of people.
Anyone with common sense knew that Iraq was NOT a threat to the US. No country would ever strike the US. Granada was not a threat, Nicaragua was not a threat, Vietnam was not a threat, Cuba was not a threat, Panama was not a threat, Korea was not a threat, Iran is not a threat, East Timor was not a threat, and on and on and on and on… but you would believe anything your government tells you. Keep on that.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:55 pmYou may have forgotton, but I haven’t.
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 3:48 pm
You sound like a vengeful little bedwetter, paul, ashamed of your own cowardice.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:55 pmIs that how the thinking goes?
Comment by Exley
In ExleyWorld, Cheney never set up an intelligence gathering unit to cherry-pick info, and stovepipe it to Der Leader. In Exleyworld, Bush always works from the purest of motives.
Right.
Ain’t plausable deniability grand? It’s allowed you guys to duck reality ever since Reagan coined the term.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pmExley, it’s also possible to say that the Washington Nationals are ‘unlikely’ to win the world series this year. It’s ‘possible’ and ‘you can’t rule it out’. But of course, if you go around saying “The Washington Nationals will win the world series in 2007″ then your bound to look like an idiot who knows nothing of what he speaks.
Hope that puts Romney’s position in perspective for you.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pm“Almost as absurd as believing Bush knew all along that there weren’t really any weapons of mass destruction, but told the nation and the world there were”
i’d buy that a lot sooner than the nonsense romney’s selling. mainly, because the invasion was never about wmd’s.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pmIf we follow Patrick1’s train of thought and go with the possibility that the missing WMD’s are in Syria, then why wouldn’t the Syrian government have used them in Lebanon instead of supporting the messy assassinations that have occured there? Wouldn’t it have been easier for them to use a chemical or biological weapon that they received from Saddam to achieve their desired ends?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pmI find that the more informed I become as a person, the less I understand ignorant people… Sheesh… That story is as likely as Santa Claus stuffing his fat arse through your chimney on Christmas Eve to leave you a banquet of bow wrapped presents.
The neocons’ brains are devolving, I tell you. In another 10,000 years, from lack of use, all that will be left up there is a brain-shaped appendix. And then monkeys will be embarrassed to be related to THEM.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pmpaul - one thing you said may actually be true - those wimps in the Democratic party that went along with this disaster sure SEEM to have been “paralyzed by fear of the political consequences”! I agree with you there.
But even I knew that is was all hogwash and I don’t even have a security clearance! All you had to do was follow the story and do a little independent research to see that there WASN’T any WMDs!
p.s. those same wimps seem to be too scared of the “political consequences” to figure out a better way to deal with Iran than threatening them too! I hope they all come to their senses and find some strength somewhere!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:58 pm#22 Agreed…That does sound laughably implausible.
Almost as absurd as believing Bush knew all along that there weren’t really any weapons of mass destruction, but told the nation and the world there were, invaded Iraq for the stated purpose of disarming Iraq of WMDs, while all the while knowing that no such weapons would be found, and thereby commiting an almost certain act of political suicide.
Is that how the thinking goes?
Comment by Exley — May 8, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
Nope, but thanks for trying.
The thinking is, Bush didn’t know there weren’t WMDs. I think he believed as hard as he could that there WERE. So much so that he ignored virtually any evidence to the contrary. And he certainly didn’t think invading Iraq would be anything like an act of political suicide. He thought it would be his glorious legacy.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:58 pmBy the way, your democratic front runner, Hillary Clinton, was just like every other democrat in ‘02 and ‘03; tripping over herself, trying to look strong on terror, in support of the Iraq War. Now, she’s embassassed and explains that she has been lied too. She was in the white house with her husband for eight years. She knows all the intel players (nationally and internationally). Her husband appointed Tenet. By all accounts she is an intelligent woman. By the time of 9/11, they had been out of the white house for less than a year. At that point, she has become so detached from what’s going on, she bases her decision making soley on what George Bush says? For being such an idiot, Bush did a good job of fooling Hillary. And the U.N. And Kerry. And the French. And the British. Etc, Etc, Etc. Or maybe democratic opportunistic hindsight is stretching the limits to which the press will overlook.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:00 pmAlmost as absurd as believing Bush knew all along that there weren’t really any weapons of mass destruction, but told the nation and the world there were, invaded Iraq for the stated purpose of disarming Iraq of WMDs, while all the while knowing that no such weapons would be found, and thereby commiting an almost certain act of political suicide.
Is that how the thinking goes?
Comment by Exley — May 8, 2007 @ 3:49 pm
I think Bush thought he heard God say there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. Unfortunately, it was Cheney whispering in his ear during a sleepover.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pmBlah blah blah blah… in 2001 both Powell and Rice said Iraq has no WMDs and is not a threat to it’s neighbours. Furthermore, the press knows that the WMD claim is ALL A LIE, just start mentioning PNAC, Office of Special Plans the downingstreet memos… the evidence we have, the lies we know. Don’t let the Straussian neocons get away with this! Scott Ritter is a person that has plenty of information on the matter just as Karen Kwiatkowski.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pmIt’s unlikely that Saddam was a threat to the USA. But we can’t rule out that Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld were planning to invade Iraq all along. So it’s probable that Bush lied America into this war.
Of course, Mitt knows where the WMD are. The angel Moroni told him.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pm“For being such an idiot, Bush did a good job of fooling Hillary.”
Well, he didn’t fool me. How interesting. I knew from the first time I heard him speak that everything emerging from his mouth was an audio doo-doo log.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:03 pmpaul = jake
May 8th, 2007 at 4:04 pmPaul, the French weren’t fooled by Bush. They know: Il est merde.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pmIf we follow Patrick1’s train of thought…
Comment by maddison66 — May 8, 2007 @ 3:57 pm
…we’ll end in a train wreck…
May 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pm“Is that how the thinking goes?
Comment by Exley — May 8, 2007 @ 3:49 pm”
Not quite. You forgot the parts about invisible sky daddies conversing with him, his visions of Iraqis Welcoming Committee greeting our troops with rose petals and open arms, and the crap about ’staying the course’.
He’s not a rational man, Exley. He even admits that…
May 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pmFor being such an idiot, Bush did a good job of fooling Hillary. And the U.N. And Kerry. And the French. And the British. Etc, Etc, Etc. Or maybe democratic opportunistic hindsight is stretching the limits to which the press will overlook.
Comment by paul
That would be Cheney and Rove, not Bush. How’s that “permanent republican majority” strategy working? Seems a little wobbly.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:06 pmRomney is picking up where Rick Sanatarium left off. Hopefully Romney will meet the same fate.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:07 pmThe Chimperor had a hard on for Iraq long before 9/11, this has been well documented in several books. The ghost writer hired to write Bush’s biography (before he turned out to be too truthfull and was replaced by Ms. Hughes, who had a nervous habbit of dabbing her crotch and swallowing whenever Bush was around) said that Bush told him he wanted to be remembered as a “War President”.
WMD had nothing to do with Bush’s blind desire to War with Iraq, neither did 9/11, but those are the cornerstones of the house of lies to drag us into his little war.
Bush will get his wish, he will be remembered as the War President. Iraq is Bush’s War. May he rot in from the inside out for his War. If ever a person deserved cancer, Bush is the one.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmWhy did the Republicans sit on the investigation into how the Bush administration may have manipulated the intelligence on Iraq’s non-existent WMDs? Oh, right, because Bush would be exposed as having lied to the American people. To say that “everyone agreed” is bullsh**, Bush and his cronies manipulated CIA intelligence reports and cherry-picked other reports. If you feed Congress lies, then you shouldn’t be surprised if they agree with your lies. And many U.S. allies actually found insufficient evidence to support such a conclusion, including Germany, France, and Russia. You can keep saying “everyone agreed,” but it’s a demonstrable LIE.
Have a lovely day. :)
May 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pmarguments about 2001-2003 don’t excuse romney from saying stupid things in 2007.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pmI think Mitt has been brainwashed by extraterretrials.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:11 pmCome to think of it, isn’t “Mitt” a space alien name?
“Hey, Margaret, tell us. How is Exley in person? ;)
Comment by Juan C — May 8, 2007 @ 3:50 pm”
LOL!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pmBush lied to the whole world about WMDs being in Iraq. The only WMDs were in Bush’s brain. And look at the carnage.
#2 Thanks for the giggles!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pmWhy do you think Bush wants to go to Mars? Hmmmmmmmmm?
Exactly!! Saddam hid the WMD there!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:19 pmSyria and Iraq entered into a secret Soros pact before the invasion that if Iraq was invaded because of WMD, then Syria would take the WMD so that they’d get invaded next.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:20 pmDamn that Soros!
The basturds all wanted regime change so they told Bush to say that Iraq had WMDs. The people around him all knew that there weren’t any but Bush probably doesn’t do much thinking for himself so just went along with the plan cuz they told him to.
From what I’ve read, Rove and gang selected Bush as their candidate because he agreed in 1999 to participate in regime change in Iraq.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:22 pm“How is Exley in person? ;)”
As hard as it may be to believe, I am even MORE charming and likeable than I seem to be on this blog! No…seriously….It’s true!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWhat’s Mitten’s big plan? Attack Syria? With??????? So the republican answer is the draft or nukes or both.
Another fine example on why the republican party will be the minority party (and out of the White House) for years to come.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:23 pmWell, in his defense…he did save the Salt Lake City Olympics.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:26 pmI am even MORE charming and likeable than I seem to be on this blog! No…seriously….It’s true!
Comment by Exley — May 8, 2007 @ 4:23 pm
Except, of course, when you’ve had about 7 too many 24 ounce “Bud”s at a Mets game, and inadvertently breaking a female’s back, but that’s a whole different subject
Heh
May 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pmI’m so sick of the “everyone thought he had WMDs” talking point. It is so misleading (a half-truth). Yes, many intelligence agencies figured Saddam had some small time WMDs (since he did have them in the near past). But none of them thought he had or was getting nukes, or that he was IN ANY WAY A THREAT TO ANYONE! That is the truth. Not even Saddam’s neighbors feared him anymore. He was completely marginalized.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pm#61 “The thinking is, Bush didn’t know there weren’t WMDs.”
Oh, okay…Well, there are a lot of kooky conspiracy theorists out there who actually think Bush invaded knowing full well that there were no actual WMDs there, even though such a conspiracy does not pass the laugh test.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pmI think what the Democratic leadership was guilty of was actually trusting Bush and his cronies when they said they had a ’slam dunk’ when it came to Iraq and WMD.
All the other intelligence agencies around the world were skeptical, at best, of the possibility of WMD in Iraq, but Congress felt that the US with its mighty intelligence apparatus must have some magical insight into Iraq. There was no way that the Bush Administration would trust the drunken ramblings of a delusional taxi driver codenamed ‘Curveball’ as the basis for bringing us to war.
Congress was wrong, Democrats and Republicans alike, for trusting Bush. Now its time to deal with it and move on.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pm#62. Hmmm, let’s see: prior to Bush, we had historic federal surpluses, and Al Qaieda was a relatively isolated mafia in Afganistan. In the immediate post 911 period we had the support of the entire world to hunt and capture Osama Bin Laden and his mafia where they would have been put on trial resulting in what would likely have been a catastrophic blow to the insanity of these Islamo facists.
With Bush, we took our eye off the Osama Bin Ladin ball, invaded Iraq on flimsey intel, without a post-occupation plan, lost support from the entire world, made ourselves look like an amature superpower, bungling everything from securing Bagdad to Abu Gareb to this “surge” fiasco we have now, all while creating the greatest recruitment campaign OBL could have ever imagined.
…and your talking about Hilary Clinton? WTF? The problem we have is singularly GWB. Remember…? HE’S The DECIDER. Take f^&*ing responsibility for what’s yours. You voted for this guy. His track record is abysmal at best. What the f^* are you whining about?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pmListen up, trolls: Bush himself said, on national television, that there were no WMDs in Iraq. So just STFU about it already.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pmExley I believe you. You probably are more charming and likeable in person than you seem to be on this blog. Lot of room there………….
May 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pm“it’s also possible to say that the Washington Nationals are ‘unlikely’ to win the world series this year [but] It’s ‘possible’ and ‘you can’t rule it out’.”
No, Yikes, that really IS impossible! And you can ABSOLUTELY rule it out!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pm#85 DRxJ,
Well, she shouldn’t have been sittin’ there!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pmYou know what Juan? I have a feeling that if I was sitting next to Exley at a baseball game we might actually get along okay! But maybe that’d be the beer talking!
:~>
May 8th, 2007 at 4:32 pmExley. I do agree that you are probably more likeable and charming in person than on this blog, because it is not possible for you to be any less likeable unless your name is really Dick Cheney or Mitt Romney or John McPain or well you get the idea.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pmI have studied cults for some time. The similarities to how the Republicans deceive people and twist the truth is astounding.
Romney should win the nomination just for being the most deceptive and willing panderer of the bunch. How much more power hungry could you get to than to change major stances on issues and now play to the conspiracy cultists who are the repigs base?
One thing is for sure, when the Repig who wrote “Dead Right” Frum - years ago said that the Republicans would never win a fair and honest fight with democrats because the country supports the democratic agenda, he was 100% correct. They have to deceive and frighten for votes. Really very sick.
Their whole game is supported by having a cult following who buys into the lies and deceptions. The truth is not something they want involved in any discussion.
This of course proves they do not believe in any from of democracy - for democracy demands an informed public.
The paid trolls here should be ashamed, very ashamed. I guess they are childless for they really don’t care about this nation’s future, they only wish to back this insane cult which grips their party and through them millions of Americans.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pmHa.
It’s also entirely possible that the Iraqis hid the WMDs up Romney’s ass as he slept. Just sayin’.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pmAsk him again tomorrow. He will have changed his mind by then.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pmSatyam - I think President Bush is given to exaggerate intelligence in the same way as our beloved former President Clinton….which you never mention.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:37 pmLogan’s Law: Once the wingers make something up, they never let it go.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:37 pmWhy Romney is still glued to this story anyway ? It was proven by the UN inspectors before and after the war, US inspectors twice…before the war and after the war..that there were no WMDS were found in Iraq.
Didn’t Bush made jokes about finding WMDS few years ago?
If that’s what Romeny is thinking, then good luck America…
May 8th, 2007 at 4:38 pmMitt Romney is such a sad case. A mind is a terrible thing to lose.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:40 pmattention all anti-liberal baboons here: im a repub (maybe libertarian is more accurate). our party is going down the tubes. it isnt just a couple points behind, its imploding. the GOP is in deep crisis and you pinheads are defending mitt romney!?!?!!!
the GOP is about to be totally taken over by the religious right, the top corporations, and the legions of ‘neocons’ (who are NOT conservatives–they descended from the most greedy, self-serving, and resentful liberals). look at this ridiculous president, his admin, and folks like ann coulter, bill kristol and sean hannity. sheesh…you should be ashamed of yourself for buying into their nonsense.
look at our recent policies, especially this mismanaged war. stop talking about the validity of going after WMDs and start looking at how poorly this war has been prosecuted. and you Angry White Guys–try to be a little open minded and for a moment, look at what this moron is doing to our party.
if the repubs are going to remain the party of economic growth and opportunity, we need to throw out the big spenders, the moralists, and ESPECIALLY the resentful, nasty ‘nabobs of negativity’ among us.
this party is about to lose the presidency to hillary clinton! and its YOUR FAULT! wake up!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:40 pm#94, Thanks, Margaret….It would probably be like when Stewie got drunk and talked to Brian on “Family Guy:
Stewie (drunk): I think you…are a special person….now now now…come on…I’m being…I’m being serious…for…for a second…are…are you gonna listen to me? Are you gonna listen to me…so I…can tell you that I respect you? (Knocks over wine glass.)
May 8th, 2007 at 4:41 pmExley is the most likeable and charming troll on this blog…. lately….
May 8th, 2007 at 4:41 pm:)
Clinton did it, too! So did Pelosi!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:41 pmhttp://www.accessmylibrary.com/ comsite5/ bin/ pdinventory.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=2930&purchase_type=ITM&item_id=0286-26963349
not that thinkprogress.org would bother to do research, but there are reports from Israli intelligence that do say that Iraq took weapons to Syria.
Mysterious Russian convoys headed by the Russian special forces leaving from Iraq to Syria, etc, etc.
I would urge Liberals to get an education beyond the half-truths and full lies that they get from thinkprogress.org
May 8th, 2007 at 4:42 pm“Oh, okay…Well, there are a lot of kooky conspiracy theorists out there who actually think Bush invaded knowing full well that there were no actual WMDs there.”
not conspiracy theorists. game theorists.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:43 pmFollow up to Posting #104:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYzEWa4D2w
May 8th, 2007 at 4:43 pmGrenada was not a threat
Are you sure about that? What other reason would St. Reagan have for attacking them?
Oh, I forgot he wanted the nation to forget about this, so he wagged the dog.
http://www.cnn.com/ resources/ video.almanac/ 1983/ index.html
Blast levels U.S. Marine headquarters in Lebanon — October 23, 1983
Reagan orders Grenada invasion — October 25, 1983
I said this a year or so ago while visiting here. You folks deserve a better grade of troll. These trolls are about as sad and pitiful as they get on the net.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:44 pmhttp://www.2la.org/syria/iraq-wmd.php
here is another source that claims the same thing…..
but it is too dificult and not beneficial to thinkprogress.org to show that there are legitimate sources that do claim that WMDs of Iraq went into Syria.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:45 pm“…Clinton….
May 8th, 2007 at 4:45 pmComment by valiant venus — May 8, 2007″
The French are waking up from there delusions about Bush, liberalism, and the war on terror. How long until American liberals snap out of it?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:47 pmMaybe Sadaam hid all his WMD in Iran? (You know, the sad thing is some trolls might actually think that makes sense!)
May 8th, 2007 at 4:48 pmNo, Yikes, that really IS impossible! And you can ABSOLUTELY rule it out!
Comment by Exley — May 8, 2007 @ 4:32 pm
HAHA
Exley, next time I come to New York you can take me to a Mets game. We were there last month during the big storm and so I missed out on any game. Then I can report back on whether or not you are likable!! hehe Maybe I’m not so likable!!
I’ll let you know when I’ll be back, probably not until summer of ‘08.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:49 pmI love this. A country that is being watched by every spy satellite in the Eastern hemisphere has the ability to move massive missiles and other equipment needed for building WMDs without being seen?
Fox News Headline:
Underground tunnel from Iraq to Syria?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:49 pm#113…so you’re saying that French troops will be deployed to Iraq very soon. Interesting.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:49 pm“I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security.” — John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
“The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept the inspectors, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation.” — John Kerry, October 9, 2002
“We need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. …And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War.” — John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003
May 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pm#
The French are waking up from there delusions about Bush, liberalism, and the war on terror. How long until American liberals snap out of it?
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
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How? The conservative party has been in charge in France for 12 years now. Their new president-elect believes America should lead the fight on global warming.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pmThat wacky Saddam! He had all those WMDs and other goods and still lost, then danced the Tyburn Jig. Funny guy
http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/31/42821.html
May 8th, 2007 at 4:50 pm“not that thinkprogress.org would bother to do research, but there are reports from Israli intelligence that do say that Iraq took weapons to Syria.”
Well, golly, if you provide them and they exist then how can they help but be 100% true? I am CONVERTED.
Somewhere along the line I forgot that the only valid research is your research. All links and materials provided by anyone who is not 100% you (or a reasonable facsimile thereof), e.g. anyone who does not share your beliefs 100%, must ergo be false. I am CONVINCED. It HAS to be the case.
Um, right?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:51 pmSatyam - I think President Bush is given to exaggerate intelligence in the same way as our beloved former President Clinton….which you never mention.
Comment by valiant venus
Why? He’s not President. Did he ride or lift a bicycle with one arm? Fly off a Segway? Don a codpiece land on a carrier? Did he clear some brush? Then it aint news. Thats just you obsessin on Newts affair and trying to hide that dirty little soiled detail of your hip-o-cracy GrOPes
May 8th, 2007 at 4:51 pmComment by paul
> The French are waking up from there delusions about Bush, liberalism, > and the war on terror. How long until American liberals snap out of it?
Wah ha ha ha ha!!
Where are you getting your news from?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:52 pmGoldwaterian - Snap out of it!!! Hillary Clinton may be a woman for you to fear - I do not. She has more positions (or non-positions) on various issues than I have shoes in my closet. She is the most polarizing figure in the race as she tried to be all things to all people. Frankly, I’m urging Fred Thompson to run. He knows where he stands on the issues because he has core beliefs. I AM hoping for a Clinton/Obama ticket…..
May 8th, 2007 at 4:52 pmOnce Bush is impeached, we take back the country and you stop fu*king your dog.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:52 pm#39 Pauly: Maybe you all have conveniently forgot that almost everyone (Kennedy, Kerry, Clinton, the French, the British, the U.N., etc, etc) thought that Saddam had WMD. And almost everyone thought he shouldn’t have them.
But Bush is the one who PULLED the inspectors right after they gained permission to inspect the palaces with a helicoptor escort. Bush was supposed to use force as a last resort acording to the vote. along with another UN vote which never happened and a real coalition. Remember all those fine Faux news artist renderings of those giant chemical weapons labs under them?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:53 pmExley,
You and Hacker Bob are my favorite trolls, you try to support and defend your positions, unlike the shit stirrers who show up here. I think I see one now.. Oh yeah, hello valienttheshiteater. I hope that’s enough smoke up your ass to get you to reconsider whether or not Bush was lying through his vodka stained teeth. Google Mickey Herskowitz. Sorry in advance for the cut and paste, here’s a taste………
……….Two years before the September 11 attacks, presidential candidate George W. Bush was already talking privately about the political benefits of attacking Iraq, according to his former ghost writer, who held many conversations with then-Texas Governor Bush in preparation for a planned autobiography.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:53 pm“He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999,†said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. “It was on his mind. He said to me: ‘One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.’ And he said, ‘My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.’ He said, ‘If I have a chance to invade….if I had that much capital, I’m not going to waste it. I’m going to get everything passed that I want to get passed and I’m going to have a successful presidency.â€
Herskowitz said that Bush expressed frustration at a lifetime as an underachiever in the shadow of an accomplished father. In aggressive military action, he saw the opportunity to emerge from his father’s shadow. The moment, Herskowitz said, came in the wake of the September 11 attacks. “Suddenly, he’s at 91 percent in the polls, and he’d barely crawled out of the bunker. ……….end of paste.
111 Valiant….
Legitimate source…? !!!
Are you equating what this site is saying VS. what US & UN inspectors were saying..?!!
They made it clear that there were no WMDS in Iraq…
Bush himself cracked jokes about finding WMDS…
May 8th, 2007 at 4:54 pmUh, Pauly. The new leader in France is of the same party a Chirac. he is also against the war in Iraq and agrees with global warming. not quite the retarded Right we are used to here.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:55 pm“Oh, okay…Well, there are a lot of kooky conspiracy theorists out there”
you don’t say.
“Mysterious Russian convoys headed by the Russian special forces leaving from Iraq to Syria, etc, etc.”
you had me at ‘etc, etc.’
May 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pmJohn Kerry was leading the democratic party at the time. He was absolutely convinced that Saddam had WMD (from before Bush’s time), that he was a threat and needed to be removed from power. He’s sentiments were echoed throughout the democratic party (and the world at the U.N.) at the time. I guess it’s just easier for you all to forget that part. If Bush lied, what do you call what everybody else was doing?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pmExley, quoting Family Guy?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:58 pmDude, there’s a reason I knew I liked you, even from different political spectrums!
(well that, and we both like beer, baseball…and other b-words)
#115 Sounds like a plan, Yikes. Unfortunately, I do not live in my beloved New York anymore, but I am close enough to get there for the occasional Mets game….Maybe Margaret can come too! And Juan and Zooey and Hacker Bob and Raven and DRxJ, etc….
In fact, let’s arrange the First Annual ThinkProgress Baseball Field Trip! TP will foot the bill, I’m sure…
May 8th, 2007 at 4:59 pmWhat is the reason Saddam did not use the WMD?
1…2…3…4…
Now we sit back and wait for the cult rationale…
come on… I am sure Rush has told you what you are to think about this…tell us the cult line.
How about this one…
Repub Cultee: “I believe the Bush adminstration has solid proof there was WMD but they wanted to have something to catch some flak from the left.”
Or how about this one…
“I think Cheney said he had proof but he left it in his other briefcase.”
May 8th, 2007 at 5:00 pm#105 Thanks, Raven…..The medications have finally kicked in.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:01 pmhe French are waking up from there delusions about Bush, liberalism, and the war on terror. How long until American liberals snap out of it?
Comment by paul —
Iraq wasn’t a point of terror till you buffoons went in there and stirred the crap up for some idiotic plans by PNAC and other groups that wanted to go free them, perform democratic experiments, build the infrastructure, train them. They don’t seem to much democracy Paul.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:02 pm“Frankly, I’m urging Fred Thompson to run.”
me too. i want this country to have the trophy-wife-as-first-lady it deserves.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:02 pm#121 Read #90, MA. Idiot.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pmAnother delusional ass kissing republican. These guys are pitiful bootlickers.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pmhere’s a Fred Thompson campaign slogan just for you, princess valiant:
Flaw and Odor
May 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pmLest you ignorant wingers forget, nothing that Dubya stands for can be considered conservative….he is at best a radical extremist.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pm> me too. i want this country to have the trophy-wife-as-first-lady it
> deserves.
Paris Hilton is married?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pm#127
Hacker Bob and Exley star in “My Favorite Trolls!” this Fall on NBC.
When two conservatives wind up working at a liberal blog, the sparks fly and hilarity ensues!!
May 8th, 2007 at 5:05 pmThe French are waking up from there delusions about Bush, liberalism, and the war on terror. How long until American liberals snap out of it?
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 4:47 pm
The answer, Paul, is never. Which raises another question: how are you going to handle it when, years down the road, you finally realize that your fervent beliefs about Bush, liberalism, and terror have been utterly repudiated?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:06 pm#135…
May 8th, 2007 at 5:09 pmno problem, Exley, as they say, reality is for those who can’t handle drugs….
If Bush lied, what do you call what everybody else was doing?
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
Why, believing Commander Cooco Bananas and the ‘intelligence’ he exclusively supplied them. Poor Paul, tsk, tsk.
Hey Paul, Let’s pretend that George Bush could’ve stopped the march to war whereas anyone else you’re trying to accuse could not! Oh, wait, He Could’ve!! Even though there were plenty of dissenters, Bush demanded the inspectors leave. Bush signed the order. The buck stops with Bush, even if Kerry was swinging from the chandelier and screaming Al Qaeda sympathies…the responsibility, you blame-ducking, liability-shifting chickenhawk loser, belongs to none other than the Commander-in-Chief. Quod erat demonstrandum.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmProbably didn’t want to use the WMD for fear of being nuked. That’s why he sent them to Syria for safekeeping and deniability.
Is that crazy and conspiratorial? Well, is it as crazy and conspiratorial as believeing Bush plan and executed 9/11. 35% of you believe that. What happen to the passengers on the airliners and how do you explain the airborne phone calls to love ones? Not to mentiion the tens of thousands you would have to co-opt to keep it covered up.
Makes my conspiracy theories seem downright rational.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pm#132, DRxJ,
Love “Family Guy.” Frequently, my late night postings are made while I am simultaneously watching “Futurama” and “Family Guy” on Adult Swim (as well as “Baseball Tonight” on ESPN)..
May 8th, 2007 at 5:14 pm“How? The conservative party has been in charge in France for 12 years now.
Comment by Chris L — May 8, 2007 @ 4:50 pm”
They don’t get that conservative in France = Al Gore in the United States. LOL
Silly trolls, they are so into their semantics that they don’t understand cultural divides.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:16 pmThis morning when Larry Elders was filling the Imus slot on MSNBC he too through this pile of excrement against the wall. It was sickening to hear him and Bernie Goldberg run through Bush’s laundry list of benefits of invading Iraq. Of course there was the pass for “faulty intelligence” and how all of the countries in the world got it wrong too. Well all except the UN who was actually there, but they don’t count because they were there.
Is there a bigger phony in the world than Bernie Goldberg? He went through his usual diatribe about how affirmative action drove him from being a liberal Democrat to becoming a nuanced Republican. Twice he respondeed to a caller by saying that he (Goldberg) had 10,000 criticisms for GWB - yet he still converted to Republicanism including their inate need for hypocracy. It was either stay a Dem or become a Repug - of course there are no other options available if you are independant minded, unless you want to sell a boat load of books to the red meat crowd. He and Coulter should collaborate on their next book and call it “Liberals Screwed up the World and are Going to Hell and Why you Shouldn’t Care”.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:20 pmPaul rips into it:
“Probably didn’t want to use the WMD for fear of being nuked. That’s why he sent them to Syria for safekeeping and deniability.
Is that crazy and conspiratorial? Well, is it as crazy and conspiratorial as believeing Bush plan and executed 9/11. 35% of you believe that.”
Apart from the fact that I regard the classification of lousy chem weapons under the heading of “WMD” as possibly a step too far…
Is that crazy and conspiratorial? —
Yes
Well, is it as crazy and conspiratorial as believeing Bush plan and executed 9/11.
Hm? If there exists theory X of low likelihood, then the likelihood
of theory Y, also low, does not increase!
35% of you believe that
What?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pm“What happen to the passengers on the airliners and how do you explain the airborne phone calls to love ones? Not to mentiion the tens of thousands you would have to co-opt to keep it covered up.
Makes my conspiracy theories seem downright rational.
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 5:14 pm”
Why do you think that they can’t FAKE calls???
I guess your not knowledgable in RF??? First, the signals from CELL phones could not work going 500MPH above 3,000 ft. NO WAY IN HELL! Also, many 757’s, if not all, did not have the air phones installed and if they were installed they were not ACTIVE!!!!!
Why in gods name do YOU believe it would take “tens of thousands” to perform this????
It would only take a few. High level personnel and some FORIEGN consipirators. Those that would be gone after the event and would be difficult for the media to get wind of them, since they live 10,000 miles away. You know….. Like those jumping Isrealis……..
There is MORE EVIDENCE to 9/11 being performed by our government then it being performed by OBL.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:22 pmAn amazing amount of time and energy went into searching for hypothesized WMDs, this same time, energy and cost could have been devoted to a much more worthy cause. Although we may not know if the WMD’s actually exist we are aware of the issue of global poverty and we do know that people are dying. The Brogen Project highlights the Millenium Development Goals that are currently being implemented to reduce poverty worldwide. However, there is a $19 billion annual deficiet in the funding for the completion of the goals. Instead the government spends bilions a year searching for phantom WMDS while innocent people die around the world everyday.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:24 pmMy God! The CotLDS produced this idiot! What’s next? A nuclear threat from The Vatican? Perhaps, the Dalai Lama will assume control of China.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pmProbably didn’t want to use the WMD for fear of being nuked. That’s why he sent them to Syria for safekeeping and deniability.
Is that crazy and conspiratorial?
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
No, Paul, that’s what you call stupid. You’re maintaining that Saddam would lose his entire regime be imprisoned, and wear a hempen necklace for the sake of deniability? Geez, you repubs really are inbred aren’t you? Like the self-proclaimed aristocracy who wishes to keep the ‘blood pure…’
Are your parents siblings?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:25 pmRemoveBush. You’re brilliant. It’s amazing that someone at the New York Times can’t see what you see.
P.S. I’m an airline pilot with about 3000 hours in 757/767. Thanks for the info.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:29 pmWith several hundred thousand Coalition of The Willing troops amassed at his border, Saddam is faced with a choice between fending off the invaders by using his huge stockpiles of WMD or sending his chemical weapons to enemy Syria to make Bush and Blair look. This was a no brainer, make B & B look like big liars. Saddam was laughing all the way to the gallows. Maybe McCain will say hey to him while he’s lurking around the gates of hell stalking bin Laden.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:30 pmLike this
http://www.physics911.net/pearl
(Is this actually by “the” A.K. Dewdney?)
versus this
http://911research.wtc7.net/ planes/ analysis/ phonecalls.html
May 8th, 2007 at 5:31 pmIs that crazy and conspiratorial?
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 5:14 pm
Yes, paul, it is crazy and conspiratorial. It is also quite stupid, given that Bush himself has admiited on national television that there were no WMDs.
So what’s the problem, Paul? Your CIC told you the WMDs don’t exist.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:32 pm“P.S. I’m an airline pilot with about 3000 hours in 757/767. Thanks for the info.
Comment by paul — May 8, 2007 @ 5:29 pm”
Sure you are JAKE!!!!!
Just like you were a soldier in the Korean war, until your PLAGERIZED war info was shown to be from someone who was a war hero.
For the sake of argument….. If you are a pilot, then explain to me why it would be near impossible to impossible for CELL phones to work in a plane going 500MPH above 3,000 ft. A pilot would know this…….
EXPLAIN IT!!!!
If you can’t, then your not a pilot. Every pilot would know the basics of how RADIO transmission works and why CELL phones could not possibly work in the conditions on 9/11.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:33 pmpaul is really a chariot passenger trundling down the road to Damascus…
May 8th, 2007 at 5:34 pmpaul, nobody can be as stupid as you and be an airline pilot. I ain’t buying it.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:34 pmThose crazy Republicans will say anything to avoid acknowledging the culpability of Bush and themselves for supporting his war crimes.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:43 pmi’m intrigued by the “You Decide 2008″ logo behind the guest… Regular viewers of Fox Noise are not expected to “decide” anything. The whole reason for watching is so they can be told what think, and how to feel.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:47 pmOkay, Mitt, let’s pretend that that’s all true.
Flash back to 2003. Saddam is a 2-bit dictator that supports terrorism and has ties to AQ and, in response to our demands that he disarm of WMDs that he might give to his AQ buddies, he decides to play a shell game by stashing them in Syria (supporters of Hezbollah) and says “What WMDs?”
I don’t believe any of this, but let’s say that it’s true.
The wrong answer in this case is to send the $450B+/yr military to go lay waste to the 2-bit dictator. Because you’ve just agreed to play that shell game with the 2-bit dictator. And playing a shell game is something that you *don’t* do with billions of taxpayer dollars and thousands of brave lives because we’ve got more on the line than that 2-bit dictator does, I assure you. It’s because we care about life, because we’ve got a culture of life — and he doesn’t because he’s just a aging 2-bit dictator with only himself to lose.
See, Mitt, that’s what we were really up against. It wasn’t some “great defining war of the 21st century.” Even in the most pro-war reading, the issue came down to “are we dumb enough to squander our resources playing shell games with 2-bit dictators and their terrorist buddies?”
Bush chose poorly. And now you’re staring back at the table and with a knowing nod saying “Nah, it was the shell to the northwest…”
By that token, you denote that you are not any more fit for office than the current president… which simply isn’t enough for me.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:52 pm