White House Blames Gov. Sebelius For National Guard Shortages
White House Blames Gov. Sebelius For National Guard Shortages
Kansas is currently missing approximately 60 percent of its National Guard equipment because of the war in Iraq, hampering its ability to respond to the recent tornadoes.
In a “spat reminiscent of White House finger-pointing at Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco after the federal government’s botched response to Hurricane Katrina,” White House Press Secretary Tony Snow this morning blamed Gov. Kathleen Sebelius (D) for the shortages, saying he was “not aware of any prior complaints” by the governor about the equipment:
If you don’t request it, you’re not going to get it. … As far as we know, the only thing the governor has requested are FM radios. There have been no requests to the National Guard for heavy equipment. … We are eager to provide what Kansas needs. But again there are also - you also have to go through the process of making the request first.
Snow’s statements are incorrect. On repeated occasions, Sebelius made clear to the White House that Kansas was dangerously low on National Guard equipment:
– Dec. 30, 2005: Sebelius writes to Rumsfeld requesting new equipment. “The Guard was critical to responding to recent blizzards and floods in Kansas, yet its ability to respond to similar situations is being diminished by a lack of equipment,” wrote Sebelius. Included with her letter was a list of equipment Kansas had lost to the Iraq war. [Kansas City Star, 1/21/06; Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06]
– Jan. 23, 2006: Sebelius personally urges Bush to increase National Guard funding. In an one-hour motorcade ride in Kansas with Bush, Sebelius expressed concern about “a reduction of National Guard troop strength in its next budget.” Bush assured her he was “dealing” with the shortages. [Topeka Capital-Journal, 1/24/06; Kansas City Star, 3/11/06]
– June 28, 2006: Sebelius sends Army Secretary list of equipment lost in war. In a meeting with Army Secretary Francis J. Harvey, Sebelius told Harvey that the state had lost about $140 million in National Guard equipment to the Iraq war. Her office then sent him a list of the lost equipment. [Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06]
– Sept. 2006: Sebelius lobbies for replacement of National Guard equipment sent to Iraq. “Kansas’ congressional delegation, Sebelius and governors from around the country have been lobbying the Pentagon for increased funding to replace National Guard equipment that has been left in Iraq or damaged beyond repair after repeated use in war.” [AP, 9/5/06]
– Feb. 27, 2007: Sebelius pushes White House and Congress for more funding. “Now the Guard needs Washington’s help,” Sebelius said in press conference on Capitol Hill. “The President and Congress need to step up to the plate and give our Guard members the support they deserve.” [Press Release, 2/27/07]
At today’s White House press briefing, a reporter confronted Snow about Sebelius’s past requests. Snow simply replied, “And what happened was, she actually did get — there was not a formal request. But they’d had conversations.” He also admitted that Sebelius did request more than FM Radios.
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Of course they did.
Republicans + Responsibility = Not a chance in hell
May 8th, 2007 at 2:14 pmlying can’t be good for Tony’s illness
May 8th, 2007 at 2:15 pmSnow lies like a flat fish
May 8th, 2007 at 2:15 pm“If you don’t request it, you’re not going to get it.”
Don’t let them kid you. Even if you do request it, you’re not going to get it. Just ask Louisiana.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:16 pmThat’s it, snowjob, blame the governors. And while your at it, why not call the victims cowards and traitors, just to cover all your bases.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:18 pmI don’t care if the guy’s dying of cancer. Somebody should punch his f*cking lights out.
Yeah, Tony, it’s much better to make up some bullshit story and point the finger at someone else than to EVER EVER accept resposnibility for yet another thing that your braindead boss has screwed up.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:18 pmI believe Clinton requested FM radios too.
Wait, that’s not right, is it… I believe Clinton ignored requests for equipment… Clinton did something bad, at any rate. Something that makes Bush look not so horrible.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:18 pmSo there.
#1 - you’ve got that right! no responsibility for anything, and that’s just the opposite of what should be happening in America…..where people need to be held accountable for their actions…
an interesting read on the idea of responsibility:
“Solving Problems in a Free Society”
May 8th, 2007 at 2:18 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ solving_problems_in_a_free_society
Don’t try to contradict Tony with facts. They are irrelevant. The folks in the White House create their own reality.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:18 pmYou can’t f*ck around with mother nature.
Is that so hard for them to understand?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:19 pmTony is a sinner for lying. tsk, tsk, tsk
May 8th, 2007 at 2:19 pmI’m from Kansas and this is just a ridiculous attack.
Gov. Sebelius didn’t deploy all of our reserve units to Iraq on a fraudulent basis, that was President Bush and his Neo-Con allies in Washington.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:19 pmAnd those citizens of Greensburg could have commandeered local school busses to evacuate the town before the tornado. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:21 pmLet a GOP enclave get hit by a storm (as if that will happen), W himself would be out there with his F-950 and SS (sevret service) details cleaning up the mess and pressing the flesh to further their agenda.
NOTE: I hope al the GOP supporters in Kansas will wake up! God bless those who lost somthing or someone in this horrible storm.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:21 pmTony Snow added, “Even if you do request equipment, and President Bush promises to deliver the equipment and other aid, good luck actually getting anything. We will forget about you faster than you can say ‘tax cuts for the rich,’ and our promises mean nothin. Now, does anyone from “Bush’s Base” have a question?”
May 8th, 2007 at 2:23 pmWhat would happen if all the governors refused to release their national guard troops and supplies to Iraq or Afghanistan?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:24 pmGovernor Sebelius responded, “The good people of Kansas request a competent President. Preferably one that cares about the lives of American citizens. And… a shrubbery.”
May 8th, 2007 at 2:25 pmsnowjob: “Well she didn’t put the requests on the right form.”
May 8th, 2007 at 2:25 pmDo they only pull this crap with female Democratic governors? I guess we’ll know what to expect when disaster strikes in Michigan, Washington, or Arizona.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:26 pmWhy isn’t this woman running for president? She should have been the vp candidate last time and she often seems to be the best communicator the democrats have.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:26 pmthe next talking point: ORielly calling the tornado victims thugs and drug addicts.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:26 pmClinton did it, too. So did Pelosi.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:26 pmCurrently, the Kansas National Guard has 88 percent of its forces available, 60 percent of its Army Guard dual-use equipment on hand, and more than 85 percent of its Air Guard equipment on hand, said Randal Noller, public affairs officer for the National Guard Bureau. Under the Emergency Management Assistance Compact, which is a national partnership agreement that allows state-to-state assistance during governor or federally declared emergencies, Kansas has more than 400,000 Guardsmen available to it, he pointed out. However, Kansas has not yet requested assistance from other states.
The National Guard Bureau has offered liaison, operational, communications, contracting, search-and-rescue, public affairs and community relations support, and is prepared to support the governor in any way possible, Noller said.
http://www.defenselink.mil/ news/ newsarticle.aspx?id=33080
May 8th, 2007 at 2:26 pmThey know they are lying. This is just a tactic so the capitalist, corporate media can get into a she said, they said story line.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:27 pm#13 lw
And those citizens of Greensburg could have commandeered local school busses to evacuate the town before the tornado. Yeah, that’s the ticket.
Limbaugh will be blaming them for building their houses in the path of a tornado.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:27 pmThe Governor did her homework well. The administration is certainly to blame to some extent, but I have to ask: ARE there any formal requests on her part other than informal letters? Not that she would get anything, but I’m just asking.
Well, I’m guessing that Bush didn’t inform her before tapping her National Guard, so why expect the Governor to be so cordial?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:27 pmArt @ 16
Can’t do it. Governors don’t even have control over where there units go for Annual Training. You take Uncle Sugar’s money you dance to his tune
May 8th, 2007 at 2:28 pmsnowjob: “Well she didn’t put the requests on the right form.†— Comment by klyde
That’s funny. The Bush administration seems to be pro-bureaucrat.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pmOh please.
EVERY time you have the White House blame someone else, you know that THE WHITE HOUSE is to blame!
They are so transparent and so pathetic!
Funny, but more and more Americans know the INCOMPETENCE of the bush criminal administration anyway, so whatever they say, means NOTHING!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pmand let’s all remember that part of the ‘pork’ that Bush gave as another reason to Veto the War Appropriations Bill was earmarked to provide supplies and equipment to non-deployed Guard units to help compensate for equipment lost to deployment overseas
May 8th, 2007 at 2:29 pm…and I suppose they were too intent on their attempted coup, destroying the Democratic party to ensure that the 109th Congress would fund proper replacement of Kansas’ equipment.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:30 pmI want to see an Obama/Sebelius ticket in 2008.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:30 pmI get so angry when I read stuff like this. Tony Snow doesn’t even know what he’s talking about. He somehow thinks that everyone should believe what he says is the truth. Where is accountablity? Where is honesty? Do these people even have a conscience?
Bush is so hellbent on having his own way that he can’t be concerned about people dying all around him. He doesn’t care about all those brave men and women dying in Iraq including innocent Iraqi civilians. He doesn’t care about the 1000+ who died in Katrina and the many more Americans still without a home after 1.5 years. What makes anyone think that he cares about the demolition of a town in Kansas?
Nope these people of this administration do NOT have a conscience.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:32 pmIs anyone surprised by this?? The trolls will wait for instructions from Rush before responding, but the intelligent among us….is this surprising?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:33 pmKansas. The new Blue State. Thanks George.
Godspeed to the victims.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:33 pmSnow simply replied, “And what happened was, she actually did get — there was not a formal request. But they’d had conversations.â€
Ahh…she asked, she lobbied, she sent lists, but did she use the words “formal request”? If not, then it’s all her fault.
Note to the other 49 Govenors, MAKE YOUR REQUESTS FOR REPLENISHMENT OF GUARD EQUIPMENT FORMAL REQUESTS ASAP, OR IT WILL BE YOUR FAULT WHEN DISASTER STRIKES!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:37 pmSnowjob & Co are really “losing their grip” now. Add Kansas to Katrina and we’ve got a prescription for disaster in this country if we ever believe that we will be aided by our own government. We’ve lost control over our own backyard while seeking to control a country which doesn’t belong to us…..resulting in catastrophe there and awaiting castrophe here. What incompetent jackasses we have in this administration! Incompetent Jackasses is a total UNDERSTATEMENT.
Guess Bush et al never got the FIVE communications which were sent by Sebulius. It’s the same old lame excuses: Tenet said he never read the state of the union speech (pure bunk!)….and anytime they don’t want to answer something they simply say they haven’t read it yet. Guess Bush never read these memos sent over a two year time frame? He’s out to lunch….totally and unequivocally!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:39 pmActually, Kansas is historically a Blue State. It’s only been in the past couple of decades that it’s been Red. I suspect they’ll see the light now that they’ve seen the Wizard is just some good ole boy behind the curtain.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:39 pmLiar, liar, liar…liar, (one more time) LIAR !!!
Hating the Repukian Liars dailly, and Valiant douche bag, Patti 1″ and the pervert too
May 8th, 2007 at 2:39 pmAnd Tony Snowjob hasn’t learned a thing being on this “brink of death”, has he? He will soon meet his maker and he’s got the blackened soul of a coal miner!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:39 pmHey, Patrick, you are usually quick to commend the administration for smearing its opponents. Are you on lunch break or something?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:40 pmand let’s all remember that part of the ‘pork’ that Bush gave as another reason to Veto the War Appropriations Bill was earmarked to provide supplies and equipment to non-deployed Guard units to help compensate for equipment lost to deployment overseas
Comment by raynman — May 8, 2007 @ 2:29 pm
No kidding? Not surprised.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:41 pmWouldn’t any written request from a Governor to the President count as formal? Besides, “formal” is a funny word to use about the most informal president the US has ever had. Why, Condi had to beg him to put on a white tie and monkey suit to dine with the Queen!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThe GOP governors don’t need any extra equipment. They have brains and can manage on their own.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:42 pmTrolls?
::crickets::
Figures.
Lies on top of lies on top of lies on top of lies, smothered in BS gravy!
May 8th, 2007 at 2:42 pmThat’s what you get when you have an idiot in the White House; lies, deception, blaming others and incometance.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:43 pm#23 stevesh
Currently, the Kansas National Guard has 88 percent of its forces available, 60 percent of its Army Guard dual-use equipment on hand, and more than 85 percent of its Air Guard equipment on hand, said Randal Noller, public affairs officer for the National Guard Bureau.
Kansas Tornado Victims Need Natl GuardAccording to Reuters, the governor said Kansas lacks about half the large equipment it could use for recovery efforts and debris removal, including dump trucks and front loaders. More than 20 percent of its Humvees and 15 of 19 helicopters were sent to Iraq, said officials with the Kansas National Guard.
Did Noller happen to mention anything about helicopters, or where the “on hand” equipment is now located, relative to where it’s needed and usually located?
May 8th, 2007 at 2:44 pmWhat’s new?
republicans continue to screw the American people.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:45 pmThat’s what you get when there’s an idiot in the White House; innaction, incompetance, blaming others and lies.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:45 pm#17
May 8th, 2007 at 2:47 pm-You must return here with a shrubbery or else you will never pass through this wood alive!
-O Knights of Ni, you are just and fair, and we will return with a shrubbery
#37 The only way Bush is going to read anything if it is book bound and titled “My Pet Goat - The Sequel.” You may also have to present the book to him upside down before he will read it.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:47 pmit’s quite obvious that the war has strained the National Guard resources across the US… Snow has serious nerve blaming the victim here…
May 8th, 2007 at 2:47 pmSnowjob, the lying is _killing_ you
May 8th, 2007 at 2:48 pmYou mean Governor Blanco of the midwest.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:50 pmTony, just back & lying already?
Geez, you sure know how to pick ‘em, Bushie. Heckuva job!
So, Bushie will be doing a photo op in Kansas tomorrow. Think he’ll let the Governor accompany the tour? Will Bushie use a prop like the plastic turkey? Hmmm, what would he use?…
May 8th, 2007 at 2:51 pmMr. Clean, the White Tornado?
……….David Orek’s vacuum? Sucks ‘em up like a whirlwind
……………………….Dick Cheney? I like Ho’s, and I really suck hard
#46
Wow. You described the Blanco and Sebelius administrations perfectly.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:51 pmThe sheer volume of hypocrisy that emanates form this administration/gang makes me physically ill.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:51 pmFrom the same people who brought you the sorry response to Katrina:
Greensburg, KS: New Orleans, the sequel.
Similar “recovery” efforts will be playing shortly in a community near you.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:52 pmAh, the sweet smell of Republican disdain for any form of responsible, caring Government.
It’s the Neocon Way.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:53 pmCan a recovering alcoholic help any recovery?
Yes, if they’re honest.
I guess that leaves all the Trolls & the Bush ADDministration out.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:56 pmThey’re trying to destroy the national guard, then you know Blackwater can step up to the plate during the next emergency, or peace protest.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:56 pmMaybe this is how we get out of Iraq - every Governor in the country requests that all of their National Guard troops and equipment be returned to their home state so that they’ll be fully prepared disaster.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:56 pmI’d like to see the data to back these assertions. It sound’s like creative statistics to me, given the disconnect between these percentages and the reports from the Governor.
How about a list of all equipment, and a list of what is categorized as what, and what is available to be put to immediate use in Kansas.
Could it be that equipment being used by Kansas National Guardsmen in Iraq is listed as being available to the Kansas National Guard? Could the national guard members stationed in Iraq be listed as “available?”
May 8th, 2007 at 2:56 pmEven with his health problems, Tony McSnowjob is still the White House spokesliar. This is the most despicable bunch of worthless matter to ever be in an administrtion…the Bush Crime Family will live in infamy. Impeach and defund…bring them home.
May 8th, 2007 at 2:59 pmI’m requesting : Impeachment Against Bush and Cheney.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:01 pmBy an interesting coincidence, I happen to have a copy of the National Response Plan at my elbow.
It lists as one of the Governors’ responsibilities:
“Request Federal assistance when it becomes clear that State of tribal capabilities will be insufficient or have bceom exceeded or exhausted.”
There is a fair bit of blather in the 1000 or so pages of this thing and its annexes. But nowhere do I find-so far-the definition of what would constitute a “formal” request. Indeed, there is every indication that a pone call to the White House consisting solely of “Help! Send a team to help us figure out what we need!” would be sufficient. Now, if the folks aren’t answering their phone, then she’s well and truly hosed.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:05 pmWhy are you all wasting your time posting this repetitive vitriol that you have for the last 6 years? With all the energy it took to make this blog page, you could be working towards throwing the Bush admin out. Sure is comfortable to fix things from your comfortable residence via keyboard though.
Want to know what your future looks like? Squint at this headline until it’s blurry and pretend your looking at a scandal in two days, in two months, in two years.
The conservatives would have thrown a liberal to the dogs by now. But you’re just too busy.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:06 pmThe state HAD the equipment but it was sent to Iraq. Even if the war is ended the equipment won’t be returned. I assume that the state paid for the equipment to begin with.
If so, this has been an unaccounted for cost of the war. Apparently, when National Guard troops are shipped overseas, their equipment goes with them, which I was not aware of.
The governors need to start speaking up about what’s really happened to state resources. They should get it on record with the bloggers because no one else is paying attention.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:08 pmKansas Gov. Kathleen Sibelius (D) who has been saying National Guard assets don’t exist in other states to help Greensburg disaster victims hasn’t even asked for them yet, according to National Guard sources statements to HUMAN EVENTS today.
On NBC’s “Today Show” Gov. Sibelius said “Fifty percent of the equipment is gone and we can’t borrow from other states because their equipment is gone.”
H.E. spoke with Cpt. Spicer of the Missouri National Guard to inquire how much help Missouri would be able to provide. Cpt. Spicer answered that “We have not been asked for help.â€
We asked Cpt. Spicer if Gov. Sibelius was to ask the Missouri National Guard for assistance, would they be able to help?
“Whenever we are asked for help we do our best to provide it, for instance when Louisiana needed help we sent 2000 soldiers and airmen in, in a period of 72 hours.â€
May 8th, 2007 at 3:08 pmm12= patrick IQ of1
May 8th, 2007 at 3:13 pmPat;
Sebelius would not ask the Missouri National Guard-she’d talk to the Governor of Missouri.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#67 Wouldn’t it be convenient for a blog like this to just go away? But for whom, I wonder.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:14 pmThe depth of the lies, scandals, and blatant ineptitude is so astounding that this is far beyond criminal, a new level that moral people can’t even grasp. This administration sets the bar for corruption in politics to a new level daily. What’s so bad is that they do it with impunity. They show us daily thier distain for the constitution, troops, freedom…everything thats good. It’s time to take this country back!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#72 So where’d you grab that bit of cut and paste propaganda, Patrick? Because you sure didn’t write it yourself.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:15 pmGive it up, Patrick. Fighting for Bush on this one is about as productive as denying global warming. It just makes you look mendacious and stupid.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:16 pm#69- I was there, Cletus- there weren’t “2,000 soldiers and airmen, in 72 hours”- I was there when the 82nd Airborne rolled into town, north of Lake Ponchartrain. It was LONG after 72 hours, Cletus, or patrick w/ 1 IQ, or m12, or whatever the hell your name is, troll.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:16 pmThe next comment from Snow is that the victims of the tornado should have left town before the storm hit. Didn’t they see this thing coming.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:18 pmIt’s thier own fault.
Comment by Patrick1 — Can you link your “story” Patrick1. Searched to verify and not finding it.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:19 pmGovernor Blanco has moved to Kansas.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:19 pmYou’d think a “good Christian” like Tony Snow would refrain from bearing false whitness against another, because of his current health condition.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:20 pm#77- yeah, personal responsibility, but if any adults lost their lives, its’ OK, they aren’t fetii, or “little bitty babies”.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:20 pmJust like they blamed “Blanco” in New Orleans. ANd of course the liberal media followed their lead. Hey Governor Sebsluis, you’re next, here they come.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:21 pmDavid O;
Did you guys by any chance roll through Alexandria on the night of September 25 or 26, 2005?
Notice that Pat’s quote specified a 72 hour period. Not within 72 hours.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:21 pmBarbara Bush was heard to say, “Some of these people were so poor, they’re better off now anyway. Who cares if their homes have been destroyed? Why would I waste my beautiful mind on such things?”
May 8th, 2007 at 3:21 pmIt just makes you look mendacious and stupid.
Comment by VerbalKint — May 8, 2007 @ 3:16 pm
Well, he is mendacious and stupid.
How else could he look? Truthful and bright? Pfff… yeah, right…
May 8th, 2007 at 3:21 pmDo they only pull this crap with female Democratic governors? I guess we’ll know what to expect when disaster strikes in Michigan, Washington, or Arizona.
Comment by chimpeach
Pretty much, it seems. They (old, fat, white, republiscums) are scared to death of powerful women.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:23 pmWow. This is an area of the country that overwhelming voted for Bush in ‘04, and now Der Chimper is flipping the finger at these folks. Kind of like Norman Osborn advised his son to do to Mary Jane Watson in Spiderman:
“Do you what you need to do with her, then broom her fast!”
Bush secured Kansas votes during the last election, and now he could care less. My, how Karl Rovian.
Do you think the result would be different if this F5 tornado did damage to a few small trees on the outskirts of Bush’s Crawford ranch? (here’s a hint: YES.)
May 8th, 2007 at 3:23 pmWhat’s Wrong With Kansas?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:24 pmHow powerful a woman can she be when her first act in crisis is to whine?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:25 pmGovernor Blanco has moved to Kansas. –Comment by Patrick1
No, the common theme here is that Bush’s incompetence knows no bounds. Heck, when he’s not f**king up Iraq, he’s f**king up America. He should go back to snorting coke.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:26 pm“Boo Hooo….we don’t have any bulldozers…cause mean ole Bush is killing Islamists with our equipment..boo hooo..”..
Not exactly going to confuse this liberal hack with Churchill.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#89. How powerful a woman can she be when her first act in crisis is to whine? — Comment by Patrick1
I guess Patrick would prefer she sit on her behind and continue to read a children’s book. Now that’s action! Watch out, Bush is on the job! See you in a few minutes, when I’m done with these schoolchildren. “United States under attack”? That will wait until I see what happens to this goat.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:28 pm#
Comment by Patrick1 — May 8, 2007 @ 3:08 pm
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Thanks for smearing Kansas, Patrick1. We thought they would stay a “red state” forever. Once the people see how they are treated by the republicans they voted for, well let’s just say the 2008 elections will be a “slam dunk”.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:31 pm“How could anyone have known there would be tornados in Kansas in the springtime?”
“No one could have foreseen that, if we took away all their stuff, they would not have any stuff”
HFS!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:34 pmDon’t they always blame their mothers/women for everything they do wrong?
“Mommy spanked me, so I had to chop the heads off the prostitutes!”
May 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pm“She dressed like she wanted it, so I couldn’t help but rape her!”
“If she would just shut up I wouldn’t have to smack her!”
“If she hadn’t been governor of the state with a standing National Guard that obeyed the law, I wouldn’t have been able to bring death and destruction with a useless war and now can’t take care of my own people!”
Hmmm…maybe the Gov. should look at the openning page of the Kansas National Guard website:
“The Army National Guard is an elite group of warriors who dedicate a portion of their time to serving their nation. Each state has its own National Guard as required by the constitution; in fact, the National Guard is the only branch of the military whose existence is actually required by the constitutionâ€
http://www.kansasarmynationalguard.com/
These men and women are Kansans..Sebelius a pathetic weak lefty.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:35 pm#96 Comment by Patrick1 — May 8, 2007 @ 3:35 pm
“Sebelius a pathetic weak lefty.”
And Patrick1 has a pathetic bent weenky.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:42 pm#86
You know, considering that Barbie Doll Granholm is doing her best to completely destroy what’s left of Michigan’s economy with new taxes, yeah, I think a few people are afraid of stupid blonde powerful women.
I guess her only saving grace is that she didn’t learn how to destroy economies from Jimmy Carter.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:42 pmFunny, Illinois last Republican Governor is sitting in a federal prison for not having enough brains to stay out of prison. I don’t think he could have gotten us out of a natural catastrophe.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:44 pmWhen’s Snow’s cancer gonna metasticize? Go cancer!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:45 pm#92
Reading a children’s book would actually be more worthwhile than trying to point the finger at our great commander in chief, who spends his time defending not only Kansas, but the other 49 states.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:46 pm#98. Or run up record deficits like Reagan . . . oh, I should change that to Bush now, I guess. Wow, do Republicans have ANY IDEA how to manage an economy??
May 8th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSee you in ‘08, Patrick, see you in ‘08. Go ahead and mouth off all you want now, you will be out of work by then.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:48 pmPlease do not distract Patrick1. His thumbs are only _just_ barely opposable, which makes it difficult to grip the crayon — and this makes his drawings of tanks and exploding stuff just that much more smudgy.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmour great commander in chief
Comment by m12 — May 8, 2007 @ 3:46 pm
Don’t wear out the knees in your pants, koolaid drinker.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pm#102
Coming from Jimmy’s double digit unemployment and inflation, I’ll take the deficits along with the booming stock market and GDP growth.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:49 pmI was trying so hard today to ignore the stupid trolls but really m12! Great commander in chief?! Man that was the best laugh I’ve had in days!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:50 pm#98 m12…
May 8th, 2007 at 3:51 pmI know a different side of that story.
Fat Boy John Engler is the governor who gutted the state of Michigan, Granholm is doing a heroic job of trying to keep the state above water.
If anyone else is to blame, it’s the flood of white collar management level retired auto company execs who drove up the cost of real estate and drove out small business.
So take your chauvanistic clap trap and jump off the Bridge with it.
Is this a wake up call for Kansas? Louisiana? Feeling the evils of our present administration? Kansas with your 6 electoral votes and Louisiana with your 9, come join us and let’s get our country back to WE the PEOPLE in ‘08.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:52 pmGovernor Blanco has moved to Kansas.
Comment by Patrick1 — May 8, 2007 @ 3:19 pm
Your brain has moved up your rectum.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pm“more than 85 percent of its Air Guard equipment on hand”…I heard on the Today Show this morning that there were only THREE helicopters available for the entire state! So they originally had what, 5? (dyscalculia, sorry, I’m sure someone who isn’t math retarded can set me straight…it’s pathetic, anyway).
I’d like to hear what the Governor has to say when Bush desides to show up tomorrow.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:53 pm#103
What’s the point in waiting until 2008? When liberals lose, they do 1 of 2 things:
Accuse the opponent of cheating (see US 2004)
May 8th, 2007 at 3:54 pmRiot and try to vandalize/kill the opposition (see France 2007)
Now, according to that liar Tony Snow, you have to beg George W. Bush for help when you lose an entire town in your state.
May 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pmThink about that.
“If you don’t request it, you’re not going to get it” - Liar Tony Snow
our great commander in chief, who spends his time defending not only Kansas, but the other 49 states.
Comment by m12
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Oh, that’s rich. Keep ‘em coming! I haven’t had a laugh like that in years!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:56 pmAccuse the opponent of cheating (see US 2004)
Comment by m12
Accuse? Yeah, we accused you of cheating, because you did!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pm#112 What makes you think liberals are going to lose?
May 8th, 2007 at 3:57 pmDuh…Sebelius bad…duh Bush good!
May 8th, 2007 at 3:59 pmThe out and out lying, without any kind of shame or embarrassment, is just beyond belief. I guess the more you lie, the easier it gets, if you have no integrity, that is. I’m sick of these jackasses.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:01 pm#108
ROFL!!! Blame Engler when he’s been out of office for years! You know, that kind of sounds like the ‘blame Clinton’ strategy that your side ridicules.
The other 49 states don’t have the same problem as Michigan. Then again, the other 49 states don’t have governors trying to tax businesses to drive them out of the state. The other 49 states don’t have legislatures trying to buy Ipods for kids with state funds. The other 49 states don’t have Democratic teachers shuffling money to union bosses in Detroit.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:02 pmMan the trolls are going to go ballistic in ‘08 when they lose.
Should be interesting!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pmWhat galls me the most is the utter contempt that snow and the other right wing talking heads hold for those who point out their complete failure, incompetance, arrogance and corruption. These people should be begging the American people for forgiveness.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:05 pm#67 kvb
With all the energy it took to make this blog page, you could be working towards throwing the Bush admin out.
How stupid of me! I could have been impeaching the president right now. Why didn’t anyone tell me sooner?!!!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:06 pmI wonder if constant deceit and lieing is a health mindset for healing from cancer?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:08 pmRepukes like Patrick1inch think that dialogue, diplomacy, and consideration of others is a sign of weakness.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pm#116
The fact that the Dims in Congress are incompetent buffoons…You know that 100 hour agenda of yours? It’s been 100 days and none of it has passed the Senate.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:09 pmThese people should be begging the American people for forgiveness.
Comment by helenahandbasket — May 8, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
It’s true! They’re always sniffing about ‘entitlement’ but they seem to feel that they are entitled to their own version of reality!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:10 pmThese people should be begging the American people for forgiveness.
Comment by helenahandbasket
They’ll be saying “I’m sorry I got caught”, nothing more.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:11 pmtony snow is a sad reminder of how low this administration will go to distort the truth, how does this blowhard sleep at night?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:13 pm#69 Patrick1
Since you’re quoting from “Human Events”, we’ll accept your apology for getting it completely wrong in advance. Here’s just a random page from that website, dated 4/7/2006:
Ranking Ethics Democrat Under Investigation
Currently, the three congressmen who appear most likely to be indicted are Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga.), William Jefferson (D-La.), and Bob Ney (R-Ohio). Add Mollohan to that list, and it could become difficult for Democrats to campaign on the “Republican Culture of Corruption” that has laced their rhetoric for months now.
Let me know if you need me to explain how many things are wrong with that paragraph and how they’re wrong.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pm#23 - stevesh(its),
May 8th, 2007 at 4:16 pmThis link:
http://www.defenselink.mil/ news/ newsarticle.aspx?id=33080
sucks. Since the population of Kansas is 2.744 million, implying that 400,000 of them are available as guardsmen, representing 88% of the total force implies that 1 in 6 of Kansas’ population (men, women, children and infants) are in the National Guard.
Somehow, that fails to compute.
#120
Even if you’re right, I doubt that you’ll find anything interesting. Unlike the far left, the right doesn’t riot when it loses.
I’ll leave intimidation and violence to your side.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:17 pmWhy are you here, m12? Obviously you are trying to convince yourself of something, but I’m not quite sure what. I can tell you one thing, though: this is the wrong place to test your talking points.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:20 pm#131 Can you cite a single example of Democrats rioting because they lost an election?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:21 pm#131 Can you please give some examples of violence and intimidation by Democrats? Otherwise, can you please stop lying and shut up until you can write something that remotely resembles the truth? And while I am asking questions, why exactly do you lie?
May 8th, 2007 at 4:25 pmI would like to make a simple, honest request to all the trolls: please stop lying. Really, please just stop.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:27 pmHow stupid of me! I could have been impeaching the president right now. Why didn’t anyone tell me sooner?!!!
Comment by chimpeach — May 8, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Too bad we can’t make a “formal” request for that eh?!
May 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pmTake a look at what’s happening in France right now. The far left extends beyond the US.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:29 pm#125 m12
The fact that the Dims in Congress are incompetent buffoons…You know that 100 hour agenda of yours? It’s been 100 days and none of it has passed the Senate.
Yeah, those incompetent Democrats. Last I checked, Pelosi was only Speaker of the House and all she promised was what the House would do in the first 100 hours. She kept her promise. Where’s the incompetent part of that?
And do you realize how silly you look when you’re calling the Dems incompetent after they took back BOTH the House and the Senate from your party, in spite of Bush, Cheney, Rove, and all the little right-wing pundits and trolls saying that there was no way it was going to happen? You’d better prepare yourself for the mother of all ass-whuppins coming in ‘08. Things are only getting worse for the GOP.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:30 pmNo the right doesn’t riot. They let the loss fester, then they devise plans of spreading false information and make deals with the Big Oil companies. Then they go on tour that only people who sign waivers can come in and hold signs that have been pre written to show only what they want to say.
No they don’t riot because they never have the numbers or the majority on their side long enough.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:31 pm#137 WTF? You have to go all the way to France to find a rioting leftist to pin on the Democrats? Do you have any idea how stupid you sound trying to use this as an example of Democrats rioting? Apparently not.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:34 pmin an ideal world, reality would not exist
May 8th, 2007 at 4:36 pm#138
What good comes from passing the House but not the Senate?
All the leftwinged pundits are saying their victory in 06 will carry over to 08. Well, they said the same thing 20 years ago after 86.
Look what happened to Dukakis 2 years later. Mother of all ass-whuppin indeed, but it went the other way.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:36 pmTony Snow has cancer, might even be dying, and yet he still is a smug, self righteous asshole shilling for his king, George. So much for a death bed conversion, or seeing that life is more than being a prick.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:42 pm“Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback also disputed Sebelius after visiting the destroyed town on Monday. Brownback, a Republican candidate for president, said local officials and the Kansas National Guard commander all told him they have the resources needed to respond.
“That’s what really got me, is her saying that,” Brownback said of Sebelius.”
May 8th, 2007 at 4:42 pmAnd now, from the Stafford Act:
SUBCHAPTER IV–MAJOR DISASTER ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS
§ 5170. PROCEDURE FOR DECLARATION {Sec. 401}
All requests for a declaration by the President that a major disaster exists shall be made by the Governor of the affected State. Such a request shall be based on a finding that the disaster is of such severity and magnitude that effective response is beyond the capabilities of the State and the affected local governments and that Federal assistance is necessary. As part of such request, and as a prerequisite to major disaster assistance under this Act, the Governor shall take appropriate response action under State law and direct execution of the State’s emergency plan. The Governor shall furnish information on the nature and amount of State and local resources which have been or will be committed to alleviating the results of the disaster, and shall certify that, for the current disaster, State and local government obligations and expenditures (of which State commitments must be a significant proportion) will comply with all applicable cost-sharing requirements of this Act. Based on the request of a Governor under this section, the President may declare under this Act that a major disaster or emergency exists.
And there you have the substance of a “formal” request. Doesn’t say in writing. Doesn’t say on Form 22J stroke 37 Alpha Revised 12/18/2004. A phone call-those are recorded aren’t they-with the infomration would prbably be enough.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:43 pmm12, look what’s happening now. There is no candidate worth Cheney’s buckshot on the Republican side. The lockstep stupidity in fighting fear has damaged the Military, stretched our resources, created a massive debt and hadn’t stopped any real terrorist activity. This will work real well in ‘08. For the Democrats.
The Republican party is no longer the party of fiscal responsibility, small government and family values. They have proven to be liars on all of this.
‘08 will run the republicans nationwide into hiding, to fester and redevise their next coup with the next generation Rove.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:44 pm#142 Keep whistlin’ past the graveyard, loser. Your attitude is precisely why your party is destined for self-destruction. Keep up the good work. We could use a few more like you.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:45 pmLie after lie after denial after denial. Who ARE the 28% that approve of Bush? If there ever was a president and vice-president deserving of impeachment it is Bush and Cheney.
They don’t answer to the American people and basically don’t give a flying f*&k about us.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:49 pmBlaming the victim: how typically Republican.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:53 pm#141 Joel………….Good one!
And as well:
In the real world, the ideal does not exist.
May 8th, 2007 at 4:57 pmYeah we know, you people don’t riot. You quietly build bombs and blow up abortion clinics or kill students in schools or start illegal wars.
It’s all because you people are so uptight about sex.
Go get laid.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:00 pm#140
When did I make a comment specifically about the Democratic party?
May 8th, 2007 at 5:03 pm#145
Uh huh. You would have a point, if the alternative to the GOP was something other than the party for homosexuals.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:07 pmNO Spudge, we shouldn’t encourage this genetic reject creating offspring. m12 don’t get laid. Stay right here and blather.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:08 pm#150
If you’re talking about the V Tech shooter, he fits right in with you guys.
He hates white men and the rich.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:10 pmHave another shot of Taxol, Tony, with a carboplatin chaser.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:11 pmYou miserable excuse for a human being.
If I had to stand up and lie for these crooks everyday I would be full of cancer too.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:12 pmm12 is MAF54 after to many hits….
May 8th, 2007 at 5:13 pmYou would have a point, if the alternative to the GOP was something other than the party for homosexuals.
Comment by m12
LOL! **rollseyes**
May 8th, 2007 at 5:19 pmThe Bush administration is a cancer on our nation! EVEN!
May 8th, 2007 at 5:23 pmm12 Eric Rudolph staunch republican and bomber.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:29 pm– Dec. 30, 2005: Sebelius writes to Rumsfeld requesting new equipment. “The Guard was critical to responding to recent blizzards and floods in Kansas, yet its ability to respond to similar situations is being diminished by a lack of equipment,†wrote Sebelius. Included with her letter was a list of equipment Kansas had lost to the Iraq war. [Kansas City Star, 1/21/06; Topeka Capital-Journal, 6/29/06]
What is T. Snow talking about? She asked for items over a year ago…And he says there was never a “formal” request!? What is it going to take for these crooks to not lie? Impeachment!
May 8th, 2007 at 5:31 pmm12
rape public cans know the only way they can ‘win’ is to cheat, lie and steal. They fear and probably expect future retaliation as their deeds are not only selfish but evil. Why do you think there are gated communities?????
We all know the lying, cheating and stealing has been going on… why do you think they want their own kind as attorneys to over see their future election fraud and crime???? It has been in the news for quite awhile.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:35 pm#152 m12
Uh huh. You would have a point, if the alternative to the GOP was something other than the party for homosexuals.
Jeff Gannon, Mark Foley, Jim Kolbe, Ted Haggard…don’t make me list them all. You can’t possibly be that far removed from reality that you think the Republican party is a safe haven for homophobes like yourself. Have you not seen all of the bible-thumping conservative “Christians” getting outed in the past few years? Where do you live that nothing can reach you but Fox Noise?
Seriously, you think that Republicans are the ’straight’ party? What a joke.
May 8th, 2007 at 5:45 pmThe Iraq war is affecting the progress of many things in the world today, which unfortunately includes Kansas. This war has cost over $340 billion and it will only continue to rise for as long as we continue on this same failed path. Fighting a war that we were misled into fighting and causing more tumult in the Middle East is not going to ensure national security. We have spent over $340 billion in Iraq, with the price tag rising, and no good has come out of it. There is no peace, no end to terror and now it is directly affecting Americans.
According to the Borgen Project, $340 billion has already been spent in Iraq and we have a $522 billion military budget. What has resulted from that money? Aside from spending it domestically, the money would be better spent on plans such as the UN Millennium
May 8th, 2007 at 5:53 pmDevelopment Goals to end global poverty. Just $19 billion annually can end starvation and malnutrition. Issues such as poverty foster a lot of the tensions that exist in the world today.
Have we heard anything closer to “Let them eat cake” than this?
May 8th, 2007 at 6:19 pmKansas helped elect George Bush two times.
May 8th, 2007 at 6:33 pmm12,
The “centre-right” in France (Sarkozy) is to the “left” of the “left” in the U.S.
Deal.
LePen lost (you’d probably get along quite well with his supporters).
May 8th, 2007 at 6:37 pmMan I’d love to a “fly on the wall” tomorrow when Chimpy meets with Gov. Sebelius in Kansas. That boy is gonna get a beatdown (I hope).
May 8th, 2007 at 6:57 pmGive’em Hell Kathleen!
Kathy Sebelius is did a great job politicizing the tornadoes in her state!! I think she should be a keynoter for the Dem CONvention…..
m-12 - Can you IMAGINE the Royale supporters here in the US crowing if she had won?? The sad truth is: Progressives like to think their policies help” the disadvantaged. The best thing for the poor and jobless in France is a robust economy - not another welfare check. Royale didn’t understand the reality of wealth creation - she has the re-distribution part down well - but the funadamentals elude her. Funny, it’s hard to imagine the conservatives of France or the US RIOTING should they lose……
May 8th, 2007 at 7:29 pm#164 - You got it!
That’s the main point that people miss - ‘desperate people do desperate things’. If the world were a just place, if powerful people didn’t use their power to maintain it, and instead HELPED people, the world would be a much healthier place.
Don’t get me wrong - I don’t feel that all people will be “good” if we let them (there are plenty of selfish, greedy humans among us), but most people are just, most people are good (-ish), most people like helping others.
Why do we spend lives/money/health to destroy people and things, as opposed to helping people? Think what we - as a nation - could have done to reduce our dependance on “foreign oil” with $340 Billion in the past 4.5 years. Or what would have happened if we spent $340 Billion in basic nutrition/healthcare/financial services in the past 4.5 years.
Probably, we would come out looking like some good people with money and power trying to do good things for people without. And it’s very likely many “terrorists” would have less reason to “hate” us.
You can’t force someone to like you, you have to earn their trust.
May 8th, 2007 at 7:36 pmKathy Sebelius is did a great job politicizing the tornadoes in her state!! I think she should be a keynoter for the Dem CONvention…..
m-12 - Can you IMAGINE the Royale(SIC) supporters here in the US crowing if she had won?? The sad truth is: Progressives like to think their policies help†the disadvantaged. The best thing for the poor and jobless in France is a robust economy - not another welfare check. Royale(SIC) didn’t understand the reality of wealth creation - she has the re-distribution part down well - but the funadamentals elude her. Funny, it’s hard to imagine the conservatives of France or the US RIOTING should they lose……
Comment by vile venus
Governor Sebelius merely spoke the truth: that resources that could have helped her state have been sent for a endless and fruitless war in Iraq.
May 8th, 2007 at 8:04 pmSince you neoCONs are crowing about Sarkozy’s victory in France, you try to project what progressives/liberals would do if Royal had won and even ridiculously try to link Democrats to the riots occuring in another country. But don’t crow too much, dearie. Sarkozy is not quite like you American CONs: he doesn’t deny global warming and isn’t likely to attack various arts nor preach abstinence while acting otherwise.
Snow is hopelessly despicable. Because Sibelius is a Democrat, he will smear her.
Some people, when confronted with their own mortality, reassess their beliefs and actions, and become better people as a result. Clearly, that is not the case with Snow. He is just as obnoxious, deceitful, mendacious, and a shill for Bush as he was before his cancer reappeared. I suppose some people simply are evil and nothing will ever change them.
May 8th, 2007 at 8:11 pmDON’T LISTEN TO VENUS HE’S JUST LICKING SNOW’S ANUS
May 8th, 2007 at 9:17 pmWhy is anyone surprised when the White House defends itself with a pack of lies? It is really a shame when the greatest country on earth cannot trust what our White House says.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:18 pmI am stunned beyond comprehension at how these people lie. Psychopathic. No guilt. No remorse. Scary at how easily they all do it. Poor Governor of Kansas; how can she respond except to call Snow a bald-faced liar. It is said that Satan doesn’t lie; he is lying incarnate. I’m not a particularly religious person, but I find myself asking for divine help in getting through these last two years.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:23 pmJeff
Valencia, Ca
I don’t know why people are so conciliatory to Snow. There are plenty of good folks out there who are sick with cancer but who don’t spend their workday lying their asses off and playing the faithful BushCo Bob role. Snow is a lying sack of shit and screw him and his sycophantic dishonesty regardless of his disease.
May 8th, 2007 at 9:40 pmSebelius is now backing away from her earlier remarks:
‘Snow recounted a phone conversation on Tuesday between Sebelius and Bush’s White House-based homeland security adviser, Fran Townsend, in which the governor said she was pleased with the federal performance on the tornado and had everything she needed.
About the same time, Sebelius was doing her own backpedal from across the country.
Her spokeswoman, Nicole Corcoran, said the governor didn’t mean to imply that the state was ill-equipped to deal with this storm. Sebelius’ comments about National Guard equipment were, instead, meant as a warning about the state’s inability to handle additional disasters, such as another tornado or severe flooding, she said.
“We are doing absolutely fine right now,” Corcoran said. “What the governor is talking about is down the road.”
http://news.yahoo.com/ s/ ap/ 20070509/ ap_on_go_pr_wh/ bush_tornado
May 8th, 2007 at 10:10 pmKansas went for Bushiva and L’il Dick…
…TWICE!
…their Karma is fu*ked…
May 8th, 2007 at 10:23 pmYes, it is her own fault.
That’s what she gets for starting an endless war in a foreign country that has no end in sight and refusing to enstate a draft.
Oh wait. She isn’t the President is she.
May 8th, 2007 at 10:47 pmWhen all else fails, blame the victim.
May 8th, 2007 at 10:51 pmHey, let’s face it. The tornadoes are Bush’s fault too.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:31 pmDale Austin @ 66
I would recommend reading the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act, Public Law 93-288. The Stafford Act (§401) requires that: “All requests for a declaration by the President that a major disaster exists shall be made by the Governor of the affected State.” The Governor’s request is made through the regional FEMA office. As part of the request, the Governor must take appropriate action under State law and direct execution of the State’s emergency plan. The Governor shall furnish information on the nature and amount of State and local resources that have been or will be committed to alleviating the results of the disaster, provide an estimate of the amount and severity of damage and the impact on the private and public sector, and provide an estimate of the type and amount of assistance needed under the Stafford Act. In addition, the Governor will need to certify that, for the current disaster, State and local government obligations and expenditures (of which State commitments must be a significant proportion) will comply with all applicable cost-sharing requirements. Based on the Governor’s request, the President may declare that a major disaster or emergency exists, thus activating an array of Federal programs to assist in the response and recovery effort.
Something Sebelius said in 2005 does NOT constitute a request for federal relief after a tornado in 2007.
May 8th, 2007 at 11:42 pmSnow should drop dead. I hate the fucking scumbag. Get your tumors over with already and die.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:54 am