Thank goodness we live in a representative democracy. The changing whims of the populace are tempered by our brilliantly devised Constitutional framework. Despite the whipsawed contentions of the [stupid'] masses, our government can, and does, manage to do the right things.
Thank you Founding Fathers for giving us a solid bedrock.
Could someone explain to me how we can hear about “record low” polls for Bush 3 or 4 times a week EVERY SINGLE WEEK?
Plus, the numbers never never never match. One day it’s a record low of 28%; the next day it’s a record low of 33%; the day after that it’s a record low of 30%.
You have to understand, when I see the words “record low”, my heart starts to pound. I’m anxious to see some truly low low low number (”How can we offer such low poll numbers? Because we’re CRAZY!”) (with apologies to Crazy TV Eddie…)
My point is: pick a damn benchmark and stick to it, OK?
Good god. I can’t believe that Gerald Gibson Sr. really wants people to die in order to satisfy his desire for lower poll numbers on our President.
You sir, are very sick. Please see my post in #4. I thank God for the brilliance of our Founding Fathers, especially in light of your vituperative comments.
You’re right RandyBastard, TP is dropping the ball on this one. Wasn’t it just a day or two ago that the new record low was 28%? Now it’s 33%. Ahhh TP…. WTF?
Record low? What happened to the 28% of a few days ago. These are pointless things to track.
Comment by Badmoodman
These are not pointless. Different surveys, different questions, different populations, different moods according to current events, etc…The main goal is to get the broadest – and most accurate – ‘feel’ from the entire nation. The trending is downward, that is easy to see. Where it stops, I don’t know. Maybe when laura and Barney are the only souls still supporting this president.
The pollsters announce the standings according to their polls. Therefore it is announced that the Zogby poll, or the Harris poll, or the Rasumussen poll on Bush’s ratings are at their lowest.
Chimpy’s support is somewhere in the vicinity of 28% to 34%.
That is the wingnut bottom of the barrel.
Those are the people who worship Bush and hate American democracy.
The tidal wave is coming big time. They have way more seats to defend in congress, and they are completely unwilling to budge on the war. I guess they can just go down with ship. Good Riddance.
Unfortunately, we can’t let up even when we win in ‘08. It’s going to take several years of “grown-ups” running things to put this ship back together again.
JT: “Thank you Founding Fathers for giving us a solid bedrock.”
A Bush supporter braying about the beauty of our constutition is like intellectual pornography. If you have any appreciation for and understanding of our constutition, you cannot, in good conscience, be a supporter of G W Bush. One of the main reasons why a large group of historians recently wrote that he will be regarded among the worst of presidents was his flagrant disregard for our constitution.
And, people, get a grip. Different poll numbers are a function of different organizations, different questions, what happened the day the respondent answered the questions, etc. etc. Polling is not an exact science. The best way to figure out what’s going on is to take an average of the past 4 or 5 polls at any given time. For some time now, Bush has averaged in the low 30’s, which makes him, at this point in his two terms, the most unpopular president in modern history.
Namtillaku: “What would happen in a Fred Thompson VS. Hilary Clinton race?”
Current polls have Hillary beating all Repub hopefuls head to head. Since Thompson is down the list in popularity, we have to assume she would beat him as well.
Thompson is a clown. As a wealthy lobbyist running for the Senate, he rented a red pickup truck and went around his state standing in the truck’s bed in jeans and work shirt giving speeches about what a regular guy he was. Imagine what would happen if a Democrat tried a stunt like that.
I don’t think Hillary will be the nominee, but even if she is, Thompson can’t get away from the Republican legacy of this war. Many will argue that the Dems were complicit, and many of them were, but this country knows which party is responsible.
When they say “record low”, it is for that particular poll. The polls always come in a few % points apart. Because the polls all use different samples, you can’t really compare one poll with another except to watch the trends.
Chimpy has gotten another 28%, this time from Newsweek on May 2-3. Chimpy got a 28% last month from Harris on April 23.
The complainers in here are Repukes who are too stupid to know how polls work or how they can be compared. Repukes are all inbred idiots and this just proves it once again.
While that was certainly an upset, sports and politics are far from the same thing. The Mavericks weren’t weighed down by there obvious inability over the last several years to be competent at anything.
Our world has since 9/11 become one of subterfuge and increasing fear. The Bush Administration clearly lied to the American public about the reasons for going to war. Since the declaration that weapons of mass destruction were located in Iraq, none have been found. A catastrophic waste of money, and the American people were betrayed. Fundamentally, we as a country, are a nation of rebels, fighting dearly for what matters most to us. But, in a war where there is no distinct enemy, we cannot battle in the same way. There is no military solution to a battle which must be waged on a humanitarian front. As Americans, we need a leader who will recognize that war is not the salve to put on the wound that was created when 3,000 Americans died in New York. Poverty creates the terrorists and militants that continually emerge from the woodwork on a daily basis killing innocent people and our soldiers. In order to fight the war on terror, we need America to take off the war paint and put on our gloves. If we eliminate, through humanitarian efforts, the grounds for terrorism; our world can return be a safer place for all to live . The war needs to fought in a new way, and that we won’t stand for losing another Iraqi’s life or another brave American soldier. Not one more. End it now. There is another way to win.
When TP says “record low” they mean a record low within the particular poll they are citing….So, when TP says Bush’s job approval rating has reached a “record low” of 28% percent, they mean that that is the lowest number recorded by the Newsweek poll. Same here….The 33% figure is the lowest number recordedby the WNBC/Marist poll.
The point is, Carter was trounced in the following election, just as the GOP will be, despite the fact that a few whackos like yourself still love Der Chimpenfuhrer.
On the face of it, I’d agree with you CrumpBro. It’s just that I believed that Gore was President, and that election was taken by conservatives.
I’m worried about a number of things; the hate for Bill Clinton, first woman President, that woman being Hillary, Obama’s inexperience, other democrats that middle America could consider wacko.
m12: “Funny, when Carter hit he 28% mark lefties thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.”
Funny how arrogant, ignorant trolls make things up and figure everyone will just stare off into space. Carter’s lowest ratings during his last year were at about 34%. His average approval ratings at the end of his term were 54%. m12, your act may work with inbread, jackasses on your typical conservative yack-fest sites, but it won’t get you very far around here.
Funny how arrogant, ignorant trolls make things up and figure everyone will just stare off into space. Carter’s lowest ratings during his last year were at about 34%. His average approval ratings at the end of his term were 54%. m12, your act may work with inbread, jackasses on your typical conservative yack-fest sites, but it won’t get you very far around here.
Joe, to understand Bush’s remaining supporters, one needs to understand that about 25% of the population are what psycologists call “authoritarian personalities.” Authoritarian personalities worship power and cannot question it. They need a strong daddy-figure and are usually self-loathing. Their self-loathing causes them to need authoritarian leadership to tell them what to do. They rarely buck authority or think for themselves, even though they think they do. Then, there are the PP’s or psychotic personalities as they are referred to in medical jargon. They usually present themselves well and seem perfectly sane — but, technically, they have no conscience.
Well, here in Seattle, I know of absolutly NO ONE that supports or even slightly agrees with the loser. Even repukians here dislike him and recognize him as the criminal that he is.
I would guess his approval ratings here in the single digits.
WE ALL NEED TO IGNORE THE TROLLS, if you see their posts, don’t read it, skip over it, don’t respond ever, they are repulsive subhumans who do not deserve a response to anything they post.
You’re correct; so much better to sell them weapons instead! Sheesh! How did Carter try to destroy the economy? By asking everyone to wear sweaters?
Look what his miserable foreign and domestic “energy saving” policy did. Record inflation, unemployment, and oil prices. Rationing at gas stations. Plummeting real wages.
This is what Ted Kennedy had to say about it:
“He promised to “cut in half” what he called “Ford’s Misery Index,” pledging to reduce inflation to 6% and unemployment to 4%. But “Carter’s Misery Index” is twice as high, with inflation over 18% and unemployment at 6.5%, and both are climbing upward.”
Paul: “Truman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?”
Wow, these strawman arguments of yours are getting more and more pathetic. Truman’s low ratings were because of the unpopularity of the Korean War, so the ratings have something in common. Truman, however, broke no international treaties and didn’t lie to the American public about the reasons for entering the Korean conflict. Moreover, Truman had been a strong proponent of investigating war profiteering and punishing American corporations for engaging in it. So, no, Paul, Truman wasn’t a “war criminal.” Bush, by contrast, is.
It always kind of cracks me up when ignorant conservatives try to make Carter out to be the devil. If Carter had had his way, we would have been completely energy independent by the early 90’s. The first thing Reagan did when he took over the Whitehouse was immediately take down the solar panels Carter had put up. Nice going, dummies.
Truman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?
Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Well, paul, I suppose if you define “evil war criminal” as one who has low approval ratings, then your suggestion might be true.
But if you believe, as we in the reality-based community do, that war crimes committed or authorized make one a war criminal, then your question becomes a foolish non-sequiter. Color me surprised.
Look what his miserable foreign and domestic “energy saving†policy did. Record inflation, unemployment, and oil prices. Rationing at gas stations. Plummeting real wages.
And little things like an OPEC oil embargo, fall of the Shah…
Your talking points aren’t very good.
How about Reagan selling weapons to terrorists just months after taking office? His weak-kneed, traitorous policy actually encouraged additional hostage taking. And then, he lied to the american people, telling them “we never negotiate with terrorists” – as he was doing just that.
“The first thing Reagan did when he took over the Whitehouse was immediately take down the solar panels Carter had put up.â€
No, the first thing he did was to sell weapons to the Iranians to get the hostages released.
Comment by barfly — May 9, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Of course, he had to arrange that the hostages wouldn’t be released before he took the oath of office. He actively worked to prolong their captivity in order to score a cheap political point.
How about Reagan selling weapons to terrorists just months after taking office? His weak-kneed, traitorous policy actually encouraged additional hostage taking. And then, he lied to the american people, telling them “we never negotiate with terrorists†– as he was doing just that.
Additional hostage taking? Who got the hostages captured in the first place?
Reagan spent his entire first term cleaning up the entire mess of Carter’s term. Even the Dimocrats were running as fast as they could from good old Jimmy. His “weak kneed” policy led to the downfall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.
I guess 1 member of Carter’s 28% is Bluedog49 here. Not suprising, Democrat politicians say 1 thing and do another, and the gullible buy it hook, line and sinker.
Tough to be energy independent when we have people like Al Gore and their huge heated pools burning fossil fuels.
Nope, we are the most educated city in the USA, we know BS when we see it, and no even my mother-inlaw and father-inlaw, both repukes, also now see the light, they have discovered that he is indeed a criminal.
And no, he is in the single digits here for sure, you see “Impeach Bush” bumber stickers every where.
Some small percentage of the general population is surely suffering from various mental illnesses. Add that percentage to those who would blindly follow a headless moron off the cliff and I guess you add up to 30 ish percent. How there can even be one brainless supporter of this moronic and useless President is beyond my imagination. Can’t we just ship his supporters off to Antarctica and be done with them? Cheers, it’s almost 2008.
No, the Truman approval rating of 23% is more prescient. Truman also presided over trying times. In hindsight his policies, although unpopular at the time, proved to be good for the country and more importantly, good for the world.
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Here Paul, from USA Today: “Since the advent of modern polling, only two presidents have suffered longer strings of such low ratings. One was Harry Truman, whose popularity sank during the final 26 months of his tenure as the Korean War stalemated. The other was Richard Nixon during the 13 months leading up to his resignation amid the Watergate scandal.”
I find it illuminating that Paul says this about Truman: “In hindsight his policies, although unpopular at the time, proved to be good for the country and more importantly, good for the world.” But, he’s got nothing to say about Jimmy Carter’s insistence that we could become energy independent by the 90’s. If Carter’s vision had been implimented instead of trashed by Ronald Reagan, wouldn’t we live in a better world today? Reagan single-handedly CREATED the war with terrorists we see today. He sold weapons to Iran and Iraq, actively negotiated with terrorists and hostage takers, revoked the Carter administration santions on the Soviet Union for their invasion of Afganistan, cut and ran right after getting 243 Marines killed in Lebanon, financed the terrorists who would become al Qaeda and then, for icing on the cake, fired all professional air traffic controllers thereby making our skys that much more dangerous. Reagan was a disaster. The fact that they idolize him so much is insane.
ROFL! Sorry, piling a few solar panels on the White House is not ‘energy independence’, unless the pile is the size of Kansas. Comment by m12 — May 9, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Setting fuel efficiency standards, investing in alternative fuels research, and a good number of other wise, forward thinking and inventive projects were put in motion. Of course that traitor RayGun preferred selling arms to Iran, and buddying up with radical Islamic dictators like Saddam – so much of the efforts of Carter were undermined my your “free-radical-capitalists” that didn’t believe it was the Government’s job to protect us from the fallout of our ill-conceived energy policies.
And where are we today? Reaping the rewards of RayGun/Bush’s st*pid and shortsightedness.
Buck Fush. Is it possible that the people you surround yourself with are placating you by agreeing with your political delusions? Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I think you for a second must have been thinking of George Bush when you posted this – or perhaps yourself? You wingnuts are so funny when you project your own st*pidity and hypocrisy on others.
newsweek: The last president to be this unpopular was Jimmy Carter who also scored a 28 percent approval in 1979. Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Yes, thanks to the f*cked up economy, oil and geopolitical failures he inherited from Nixon/Ford. Just imagine if RayGun hadn’t been a traitor and negotiated with the Iranian Mullahs to sell them Arms for the hostages. We might not have had half of the f*ck ups in the middle east that we had from RayGun/Bush. You know, like selling WMDs to Iraq – etc.,
The Carter apologists are definitely getting on their knees for this one.
The economic misery index was at 12% when Ford left office, and Carter hiked it to 20%. Then Reagan came into office, the Iranians released the hostages, and inflation went back down to managable levels.
15 years later, George W. Bush passes pro-growth tax cuts, dropping unemployment to historical lows and federal revenues to historical highs.
Of course, when Carter comes into office after the 1975 recession, it’s Ford’s fault. When W comes into office after the 2000 recession, its Bush’s fault.
Why does this poll hate our troops?
May 9th, 2007 at 12:24 pmRecord low? What happened to the 28% of a few days ago. These are pointless things to track.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:26 pm33% of Americans are mentally ill. Not bad. Probably true in all countries.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:26 pmThank goodness we live in a representative democracy. The changing whims of the populace are tempered by our brilliantly devised Constitutional framework. Despite the whipsawed contentions of the [stupid'] masses, our government can, and does, manage to do the right things.
Thank you Founding Fathers for giving us a solid bedrock.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:30 pmAll the polls have a different basement apparentely. One thing not in question is that George W. Bush is a F^CKING LOSER!
May 9th, 2007 at 12:30 pmI guess the majority not always win in a democracy.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:31 pmCould someone explain to me how we can hear about “record low” polls for Bush 3 or 4 times a week EVERY SINGLE WEEK?
Plus, the numbers never never never match. One day it’s a record low of 28%; the next day it’s a record low of 33%; the day after that it’s a record low of 30%.
You have to understand, when I see the words “record low”, my heart starts to pound. I’m anxious to see some truly low low low number (”How can we offer such low poll numbers? Because we’re CRAZY!”) (with apologies to Crazy TV Eddie…)
My point is: pick a damn benchmark and stick to it, OK?
May 9th, 2007 at 12:32 pmPonies for everyone!
May 9th, 2007 at 12:34 pmHeckuva job, George W. Botch!
May 9th, 2007 at 12:36 pmThere’s obviously a lot of name-jacking going on today.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:38 pmResponse to Gerald Gibson Sr.
Good god. I can’t believe that Gerald Gibson Sr. really wants people to die in order to satisfy his desire for lower poll numbers on our President.
You sir, are very sick. Please see my post in #4. I thank God for the brilliance of our Founding Fathers, especially in light of your vituperative comments.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pm
You’re right RandyBastard, TP is dropping the ball on this one. Wasn’t it just a day or two ago that the new record low was 28%? Now it’s 33%. Ahhh TP…. WTF?
May 9th, 2007 at 12:39 pmRecord low? What happened to the 28% of a few days ago. These are pointless things to track.
Comment by Badmoodman
These are not pointless. Different surveys, different questions, different populations, different moods according to current events, etc…The main goal is to get the broadest – and most accurate – ‘feel’ from the entire nation. The trending is downward, that is easy to see. Where it stops, I don’t know. Maybe when laura and Barney are the only souls still supporting this president.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:41 pmDoes anybody really think that a republican presidential candidate has a chance in hell of winning in 2008? (short of election rigging of course.)
May 9th, 2007 at 12:41 pmThe pollsters announce the standings according to their polls. Therefore it is announced that the Zogby poll, or the Harris poll, or the Rasumussen poll on Bush’s ratings are at their lowest.
Chimpy’s support is somewhere in the vicinity of 28% to 34%.
That is the wingnut bottom of the barrel.
Those are the people who worship Bush and hate American democracy.
-GSD
May 9th, 2007 at 12:42 pm#15…I don’t think any republican can win in ‘08. The pendulum has already started to swing in the other direction.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:43 pmRepublicans are the Fear and Smear Party,
Agreed,
The tidal wave is coming big time. They have way more seats to defend in congress, and they are completely unwilling to budge on the war. I guess they can just go down with ship. Good Riddance.
Unfortunately, we can’t let up even when we win in ‘08. It’s going to take several years of “grown-ups” running things to put this ship back together again.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:47 pmDoes anybody really think that a republican presidential candidate has a chance in hell of winning in 2008? (short of election rigging of course.)
Comment by Crump’s Brother — May 9, 2007 @ 12:41 pm
I thought the same thing about W in both prior elections. What would happen in a Fred Thompson VS. Hilary Clinton race?
May 9th, 2007 at 12:48 pmDoes anybody really think that a republican presidential candidate has a chance in hell of winning in 2008? (short of election rigging of course.)
Did anybody really think the Dallas Mavericks would lose in the first round of the playoffs?
May 9th, 2007 at 12:53 pmJT: “Thank you Founding Fathers for giving us a solid bedrock.”
A Bush supporter braying about the beauty of our constutition is like intellectual pornography. If you have any appreciation for and understanding of our constutition, you cannot, in good conscience, be a supporter of G W Bush. One of the main reasons why a large group of historians recently wrote that he will be regarded among the worst of presidents was his flagrant disregard for our constitution.
And, people, get a grip. Different poll numbers are a function of different organizations, different questions, what happened the day the respondent answered the questions, etc. etc. Polling is not an exact science. The best way to figure out what’s going on is to take an average of the past 4 or 5 polls at any given time. For some time now, Bush has averaged in the low 30’s, which makes him, at this point in his two terms, the most unpopular president in modern history.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:58 pmWorst. President. Ever.
Don’t ever forget what the reich wing did to America.
May 9th, 2007 at 12:59 pmNamtillaku: “What would happen in a Fred Thompson VS. Hilary Clinton race?”
Current polls have Hillary beating all Repub hopefuls head to head. Since Thompson is down the list in popularity, we have to assume she would beat him as well.
Thompson is a clown. As a wealthy lobbyist running for the Senate, he rented a red pickup truck and went around his state standing in the truck’s bed in jeans and work shirt giving speeches about what a regular guy he was. Imagine what would happen if a Democrat tried a stunt like that.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:02 pmNamtillaku,
I don’t think Hillary will be the nominee, but even if she is, Thompson can’t get away from the Republican legacy of this war. Many will argue that the Dems were complicit, and many of them were, but this country knows which party is responsible.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pmWhen they say “record low”, it is for that particular poll. The polls always come in a few % points apart. Because the polls all use different samples, you can’t really compare one poll with another except to watch the trends.
Chimpy has gotten another 28%, this time from Newsweek on May 2-3. Chimpy got a 28% last month from Harris on April 23.
The complainers in here are Repukes who are too stupid to know how polls work or how they can be compared. Repukes are all inbred idiots and this just proves it once again.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:03 pmm12,
While that was certainly an upset, sports and politics are far from the same thing. The Mavericks weren’t weighed down by there obvious inability over the last several years to be competent at anything.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pmOur world has since 9/11 become one of subterfuge and increasing fear. The Bush Administration clearly lied to the American public about the reasons for going to war. Since the declaration that weapons of mass destruction were located in Iraq, none have been found. A catastrophic waste of money, and the American people were betrayed. Fundamentally, we as a country, are a nation of rebels, fighting dearly for what matters most to us. But, in a war where there is no distinct enemy, we cannot battle in the same way. There is no military solution to a battle which must be waged on a humanitarian front. As Americans, we need a leader who will recognize that war is not the salve to put on the wound that was created when 3,000 Americans died in New York. Poverty creates the terrorists and militants that continually emerge from the woodwork on a daily basis killing innocent people and our soldiers. In order to fight the war on terror, we need America to take off the war paint and put on our gloves. If we eliminate, through humanitarian efforts, the grounds for terrorism; our world can return be a safer place for all to live . The war needs to fought in a new way, and that we won’t stand for losing another Iraqi’s life or another brave American soldier. Not one more. End it now. There is another way to win.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:05 pmWhen TP says “record low” they mean a record low within the particular poll they are citing….So, when TP says Bush’s job approval rating has reached a “record low” of 28% percent, they mean that that is the lowest number recorded by the Newsweek poll. Same here….The 33% figure is the lowest number recordedby the WNBC/Marist poll.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:06 pmFunny, when Carter hit he 28% mark lefties thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:07 pmPolls are useless. His actual approval rating is probably no higher than 10%. The US is in no way 33% insane.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:11 pmm12,
The point is, Carter was trounced in the following election, just as the GOP will be, despite the fact that a few whackos like yourself still love Der Chimpenfuhrer.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:13 pmOn the face of it, I’d agree with you CrumpBro. It’s just that I believed that Gore was President, and that election was taken by conservatives.
I’m worried about a number of things; the hate for Bill Clinton, first woman President, that woman being Hillary, Obama’s inexperience, other democrats that middle America could consider wacko.
We’ll see how things go, but…
May 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pmIf that were true, his approval ratings would have been arlund 70%.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:15 pmm12: “Funny, when Carter hit he 28% mark lefties thought he was the best thing since sliced bread.”
Funny how arrogant, ignorant trolls make things up and figure everyone will just stare off into space. Carter’s lowest ratings during his last year were at about 34%. His average approval ratings at the end of his term were 54%. m12, your act may work with inbread, jackasses on your typical conservative yack-fest sites, but it won’t get you very far around here.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:16 pmI’m sure Bush would be trounced in 2008…oh wait, he isn’t running again…..
May 9th, 2007 at 1:17 pmJimmy Carter wasn’t thought as being a stale, ruthless bastard. That’s the difference.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:19 pmFunny how arrogant, ignorant trolls make things up and figure everyone will just stare off into space. Carter’s lowest ratings during his last year were at about 34%. His average approval ratings at the end of his term were 54%. m12, your act may work with inbread, jackasses on your typical conservative yack-fest sites, but it won’t get you very far around here.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:20 pmJoe, to understand Bush’s remaining supporters, one needs to understand that about 25% of the population are what psycologists call “authoritarian personalities.” Authoritarian personalities worship power and cannot question it. They need a strong daddy-figure and are usually self-loathing. Their self-loathing causes them to need authoritarian leadership to tell them what to do. They rarely buck authority or think for themselves, even though they think they do. Then, there are the PP’s or psychotic personalities as they are referred to in medical jargon. They usually present themselves well and seem perfectly sane — but, technically, they have no conscience.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:21 pm“Jimmy Carter wasn’t thought as being a stale, ruthless bastard. That’s the difference.”
Instead he was thought of as a coward who bowed down to the Iranians and tried to destroy our economy.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:30 pmI’m sure Bush would be trounced in 2008…oh wait, he isn’t running again…..
Comment by m12 — May 9, 2007 @ 1:17 pm
But you’d vote for him if he could. Says more about you than him.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:31 pmBluedog, I have to admit that you’re right. But, what is the remaining 8% of supporters? Corrupt priests who regularly hire prostitutes?
May 9th, 2007 at 1:36 pmTruman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?
May 9th, 2007 at 1:47 pmInstead he was thought of as a coward who bowed down to the Iranians and tried to destroy our economy.
Comment by m12
You’re correct; so much better to sell them weapons instead! Sheesh! How did Carter try to destroy the economy? By asking everyone to wear sweaters?
May 9th, 2007 at 1:47 pmInstead he was thought of as a coward …,/i>
Better that, than a traitor like Reagan.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:48 pmTruman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?
Comment by paul —
So any pres with a 23% approval is automatically a war criminal? Try harder.
May 9th, 2007 at 1:50 pmWell, here in Seattle, I know of absolutly NO ONE that supports or even slightly agrees with the loser. Even repukians here dislike him and recognize him as the criminal that he is.
I would guess his approval ratings here in the single digits.
Hating the Repukian Mafia daily
May 9th, 2007 at 1:55 pmWE ALL NEED TO IGNORE THE TROLLS, if you see their posts, don’t read it, skip over it, don’t respond ever, they are repulsive subhumans who do not deserve a response to anything they post.
Join the IGNORE THE TROLL SCUM CLUB today.
I will join, but I sure loved putting them down.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:01 pmYou’re correct; so much better to sell them weapons instead! Sheesh! How did Carter try to destroy the economy? By asking everyone to wear sweaters?
Look what his miserable foreign and domestic “energy saving” policy did. Record inflation, unemployment, and oil prices. Rationing at gas stations. Plummeting real wages.
This is what Ted Kennedy had to say about it:
“He promised to “cut in half” what he called “Ford’s Misery Index,” pledging to reduce inflation to 6% and unemployment to 4%. But “Carter’s Misery Index” is twice as high, with inflation over 18% and unemployment at 6.5%, and both are climbing upward.”
May 9th, 2007 at 2:05 pmPaul: “Truman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?”
Wow, these strawman arguments of yours are getting more and more pathetic. Truman’s low ratings were because of the unpopularity of the Korean War, so the ratings have something in common. Truman, however, broke no international treaties and didn’t lie to the American public about the reasons for entering the Korean conflict. Moreover, Truman had been a strong proponent of investigating war profiteering and punishing American corporations for engaging in it. So, no, Paul, Truman wasn’t a “war criminal.” Bush, by contrast, is.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:07 pmNow it’s time to play “Name That Troll!”
Here’s my guess:
m12=patrickSmall1?
May 9th, 2007 at 2:08 pmIt always kind of cracks me up when ignorant conservatives try to make Carter out to be the devil. If Carter had had his way, we would have been completely energy independent by the early 90’s. The first thing Reagan did when he took over the Whitehouse was immediately take down the solar panels Carter had put up. Nice going, dummies.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:10 pmTruman had a 23% approval rating before he left office. Was he also an evil war criminal?
Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 1:47 pm
Well, paul, I suppose if you define “evil war criminal” as one who has low approval ratings, then your suggestion might be true.
But if you believe, as we in the reality-based community do, that war crimes committed or authorized make one a war criminal, then your question becomes a foolish non-sequiter. Color me surprised.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:11 pmLook what his miserable foreign and domestic “energy saving†policy did. Record inflation, unemployment, and oil prices. Rationing at gas stations. Plummeting real wages.
And little things like an OPEC oil embargo, fall of the Shah…
Your talking points aren’t very good.
How about Reagan selling weapons to terrorists just months after taking office? His weak-kneed, traitorous policy actually encouraged additional hostage taking. And then, he lied to the american people, telling them “we never negotiate with terrorists” – as he was doing just that.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:11 pmAnother poll of Democrats, Liberals and other A$$holes?
I love when you find out the poll statistics. The one from yesterday was all over the news until the facts came out.
ROTFL
Hey libs, when you lie and cheat, you are only fooling yourselves.
ROTFL
Is Pelosi going to give up her post until they find out if she is pushing money to her husband?
ROTFL
May 9th, 2007 at 2:11 pm“The first thing Reagan did when he took over the Whitehouse was immediately take down the solar panels Carter had put up.”
No, the first thing he did was to sell weapons to the Iranians to get the hostages released.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:13 pmComment by m12
Don’t run away, I’m just getting warmed up.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:15 pm“The first thing Reagan did when he took over the Whitehouse was immediately take down the solar panels Carter had put up.â€
No, the first thing he did was to sell weapons to the Iranians to get the hostages released.
Comment by barfly — May 9, 2007 @ 2:13 pm
Of course, he had to arrange that the hostages wouldn’t be released before he took the oath of office. He actively worked to prolong their captivity in order to score a cheap political point.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:17 pmHow about Reagan selling weapons to terrorists just months after taking office? His weak-kneed, traitorous policy actually encouraged additional hostage taking. And then, he lied to the american people, telling them “we never negotiate with terrorists†– as he was doing just that.
Additional hostage taking? Who got the hostages captured in the first place?
Reagan spent his entire first term cleaning up the entire mess of Carter’s term. Even the Dimocrats were running as fast as they could from good old Jimmy. His “weak kneed” policy led to the downfall of the Soviet Union and the end of the Cold War.
I guess 1 member of Carter’s 28% is Bluedog49 here. Not suprising, Democrat politicians say 1 thing and do another, and the gullible buy it hook, line and sinker.
Tough to be energy independent when we have people like Al Gore and their huge heated pools burning fossil fuels.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:28 pmIs Pelosi going to give up her post until they find out if she is pushing money to her husband?
Well, she tried to exempt her husband’s San Francisco tunafish company from the new minimum wage….
May 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pmBuck Fush. Is it possible that the people you surround yourself with are placating you by agreeing with your political delusions?
May 9th, 2007 at 2:35 pmnewsweek: The last president to be this unpopular was Jimmy Carter who also scored a 28 percent approval in 1979.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:37 pmNope, we are the most educated city in the USA, we know BS when we see it, and no even my mother-inlaw and father-inlaw, both repukes, also now see the light, they have discovered that he is indeed a criminal.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:53 pmAnd no, he is in the single digits here for sure, you see “Impeach Bush” bumber stickers every where.
newsweek: The last president to be this unpopular was Jimmy Carter who also scored a 28 percent approval in 1979.
Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
That knowledge must make you feel so much better.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pmSome small percentage of the general population is surely suffering from various mental illnesses. Add that percentage to those who would blindly follow a headless moron off the cliff and I guess you add up to 30 ish percent. How there can even be one brainless supporter of this moronic and useless President is beyond my imagination. Can’t we just ship his supporters off to Antarctica and be done with them? Cheers, it’s almost 2008.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:37 pmNo, the Truman approval rating of 23% is more prescient. Truman also presided over trying times. In hindsight his policies, although unpopular at the time, proved to be good for the country and more importantly, good for the world.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:40 pmWHAT DO YOU EXPECT WHEN THIS THING FILLS PUBLIC SERVANTS
WITH A BUNCH OF TOTALLY CORRUPTED PARASITES, MAGGOTS,
TICKS, LEECHES, AND SCUM?
OH YEAH THEY SURE SERVE THE PEOPLE ALL RIGHT
WHAT THEY REALLY DO IS LEECH AND YOU AND I
I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF WE GET ONE SINGLE PENNY WORTH OF
SERVICE FOR EVERY DOLLAR WE PAY
AND THE SOLUTION AS HE PUSHES OUTSOURCING FOR HIS PARASITES, GO SHOPPING MORE……. FRIGGIN IDIOT
May 9th, 2007 at 4:20 pmNOW LISTEN DUDE/DUDETTES………..
I AM ROCK SOLID HONESTY AND INTEGRITY
AND
I
SHOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT DUDE.
NOPE I’M TOTALLY CLEAN, WOULDN’T TOUCH THE STUFF… DON’T
DRINK AT ALL AND I’M TOTALLY SQUEEKY CLEAN :)
WHAT YOU ARE WITNESSING IS TOTALLY HEAVENLY AWESOME COOLNESS THAT IS NATURAL TO ME THAT BLOWS EVERYONE AWAY, I JUST THAT COOL DUDE/DUDETTE
WE DON’T NEED NO MORE PARASITES THAT ARE TOTALLY CORRUPTED STANDING BY THE FLAG AS TOTAL CORRUPTION IS NOT THE AMERICAN WAY… ACTUALLY AS OFTEN AS THOSE THINGS DO THAT MAYBE CORRUPTION IS THE AMERICAN WAY…
BUT NOT WITH ME DUDE :) ROCK SOLID INTEGRITY DUDE ROCK SOLID INTEGRITY
JIMBO DUDE HAS SPOKEN THE TRUTH :)
May 9th, 2007 at 4:24 pmIn hindsight his policies, although unpopular at the time, proved to be good for the country and more importantly, good for the world.
Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 3:40
Bush’s policies? Just the opposite. Bush is no Truman. Harding or Hoover would be more accurate.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:25 pmWho are these morons, crooks, liars and cowards? Fuck Bushie apologists.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:45 pmI guess 28% – 33% of the US is made up of home schooled troglodyte banjo pickers.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:21 pmHere Paul, from USA Today: “Since the advent of modern polling, only two presidents have suffered longer strings of such low ratings. One was Harry Truman, whose popularity sank during the final 26 months of his tenure as the Korean War stalemated. The other was Richard Nixon during the 13 months leading up to his resignation amid the Watergate scandal.”
I find it illuminating that Paul says this about Truman: “In hindsight his policies, although unpopular at the time, proved to be good for the country and more importantly, good for the world.” But, he’s got nothing to say about Jimmy Carter’s insistence that we could become energy independent by the 90’s. If Carter’s vision had been implimented instead of trashed by Ronald Reagan, wouldn’t we live in a better world today? Reagan single-handedly CREATED the war with terrorists we see today. He sold weapons to Iran and Iraq, actively negotiated with terrorists and hostage takers, revoked the Carter administration santions on the Soviet Union for their invasion of Afganistan, cut and ran right after getting 243 Marines killed in Lebanon, financed the terrorists who would become al Qaeda and then, for icing on the cake, fired all professional air traffic controllers thereby making our skys that much more dangerous. Reagan was a disaster. The fact that they idolize him so much is insane.
May 9th, 2007 at 6:49 pmROFL!
Sorry, piling a few solar panels on the White House is not ‘energy independence’, unless the pile is the size of Kansas.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:47 pmROFL! Sorry, piling a few solar panels on the White House is not ‘energy independence’, unless the pile is the size of Kansas. Comment by m12 — May 9, 2007 @ 7:47 pm
Setting fuel efficiency standards, investing in alternative fuels research, and a good number of other wise, forward thinking and inventive projects were put in motion. Of course that traitor RayGun preferred selling arms to Iran, and buddying up with radical Islamic dictators like Saddam – so much of the efforts of Carter were undermined my your “free-radical-capitalists” that didn’t believe it was the Government’s job to protect us from the fallout of our ill-conceived energy policies.
And where are we today? Reaping the rewards of RayGun/Bush’s st*pid and shortsightedness.
ROFL indeed – at YOUR ST*PIDITY!
May 9th, 2007 at 9:14 pmBuck Fush. Is it possible that the people you surround yourself with are placating you by agreeing with your political delusions? Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 2:35 pm
I think you for a second must have been thinking of George Bush when you posted this – or perhaps yourself? You wingnuts are so funny when you project your own st*pidity and hypocrisy on others.
May 9th, 2007 at 9:15 pmnewsweek: The last president to be this unpopular was Jimmy Carter who also scored a 28 percent approval in 1979. Comment by paul — May 9, 2007 @ 2:37 pm
Yes, thanks to the f*cked up economy, oil and geopolitical failures he inherited from Nixon/Ford. Just imagine if RayGun hadn’t been a traitor and negotiated with the Iranian Mullahs to sell them Arms for the hostages. We might not have had half of the f*ck ups in the middle east that we had from RayGun/Bush. You know, like selling WMDs to Iraq – etc.,
May 9th, 2007 at 9:17 pmThe Carter apologists are definitely getting on their knees for this one.
The economic misery index was at 12% when Ford left office, and Carter hiked it to 20%. Then Reagan came into office, the Iranians released the hostages, and inflation went back down to managable levels.
15 years later, George W. Bush passes pro-growth tax cuts, dropping unemployment to historical lows and federal revenues to historical highs.
Of course, when Carter comes into office after the 1975 recession, it’s Ford’s fault. When W comes into office after the 2000 recession, its Bush’s fault.
May 9th, 2007 at 10:03 pm