Today was Vice President Cheney’s second trip to Baghdad. Dan Froomkin reminds us of his first, in December 2005, when a Marine corporal told Cheney during a Q&A session: “From our perspective, we don’t see much as far as gains. I was wondering what it looks like from the big side of the mountain — how Iraq’s looking.”
“‘Well, Iraq’s looking good,’ Cheney responded. ‘It’s hard sometimes, if you look at just the news, to have the good stories burn through. Part of it is that what we’re doing here, obviously, takes time. From our perspective, looking back, as I say, to a year and a half ago, I think it’s remarkable progress. I think we’ve turned the corner, if you will. I think when we look back from 10 years hence, we’ll see that the year ‘05 was in fact a watershed year here in Iraq.‘
“Cheney…also discussed the possibility of American forces eventually withdrawing ‘to a few locations’ in Iraq, which would ‘reduce the total number of personnel we need here.’
“‘I think you will see changes in our deployment patterns probably within this next year,’ he said.”


The Republicans turned a corner in 2006 to the back burner of American politics. Their days of fighting against civil rights and aid for the poorest Americans while funneling money into their own pockets is over. Buh-bye, purveyors of 18th century ideals.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:51 pmnote he can’t even come down the plane’s ramp without wearing body armor himself? what a coward and liar. it is very nice when his statements and pictures are so clearly opposite. even stupid people might scratch their cretinous protrusion in disbelief
May 9th, 2007 at 2:52 pmthe propaganda is endless from these people. They lie, lie about lying and then lie again.
I don’t believe they’re stupid - they just know that an apathetic public will believe lies if their repeated often enough. well, at least a portion of the population will.
Some reading on this issue:
“Politicians Lie? Say it Ain’t So!”
May 9th, 2007 at 2:54 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ politicians_lie___say_it_ain_t_so
But the rightist pundit Dick
Morris said (yesterday) that “It’s ‘Convenient’ To Keep U.S. Troops In Iraq So Terrorists Can Kill Them ‘Around The Corner’ » ”
That means that the troops have turned the corner and are exposed to increased shootings?
May 9th, 2007 at 2:55 pmthe REAL reason cheney dropped in to the green zone was to push the oil law and to express how pissed of he is about the two-month parliament recess… but, of course, the media aren’t going to put those two together for us… as usual, it’s something we have to figure out on our own…
from the wsj…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmCheney: “‘I think you will see changes in our deployment patterns probably within this next year,’ he said.†- - Well, he got that right.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pmHow many time do the Republicans have to turn the corner before they realize they are right where they started? Congress needs to know that we want action and not cave on the issue of bringing the troops home.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pmNot watershed, you idiot, I meant BLOODshed!
May 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pmTurn enough corners, and you wind up back where you started.
May 9th, 2007 at 2:59 pmIt’s not so much that Iraq has turned the corner; it’s rather that Cheney is around the bend.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:02 pmIraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law
Yes expect oil to go up in price
Iraq’s largest oil workers’ trade union will strike tomorrow, in protest at the controversial oil law currently being considered by the Iraqi parliament. The move threatens to stop all oil exports from Iraq.
The oil law proposes giving multinational companies the primary role in developing Iraq’s huge untapped oilfields, under contracts lasting up to 30 years. Oil production in Iraq, like in most of the Middle East, has been in the public sector since the 1970s. Continue reading ‘Iraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law’
May 9th, 2007 at 3:03 pmIf you will? No, I won’t.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:03 pmIraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law
http://www.priceofoil.org/
May 9th, 2007 at 3:05 pmWhat a complete joke. I guess this is what 9% approval buys you these days.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pmQuick! Someone tell Cheney that turning two corners just sends you in the opposite direction!
“Two wrongs don’t make a right; but three rights makes a left.”
May 9th, 2007 at 3:09 pmlook at the guy next to him, he looks like he lost his appetite.
who could eat sitting next to a festering dick?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:13 pmHow many damned corners are there?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWe’ve turned so many “corners” in Iraq that the current administration is getting dizzy!
Well, make that ‘dizzier’.
How many ‘corners’ are they going to turn before they wake up to the failure that is the occupation?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“‘I think you will see changes in our deployment patterns probably within this next year,’ he said.â€
Yeah, but instead of less troops, we now have more!! When o when will nature cull this man from the herd?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:20 pmAlso note: In the picture from 2005 he was not wearing a flak/bullet proof jacket. Today he is.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:22 pmMay 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
The GOP is so over! And that will be a great thing for the next century. Dubya and his crime family have guaranteed a defeat of the troglodytes for the next hundred years.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:26 pmIraq’s largest oil workers’ trade union will strike tomorrow, in protest at the controversial oil law currently being considered by the Iraqi parliament. The move threatens to stop all oil exports from Iraq.
The oil law proposes giving multinational companies the primary role in developing Iraq’s huge untapped oilfields, under contracts lasting up to 30 years. Oil production in Iraq, like in most of the Middle East, has been in the public sector since the 1970s. Continue reading ‘Iraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law’
May 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmI don’t understand why anyone pays any mind to these cats anymore. They’re obviously so far detached from reality that they ought to be involuntarily committed indefinitely as immediate dangers to themselves and/or others. I can’t wait until grownups are back in charge and clean up the People’s Playhouse. Sheesh.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:30 pm“I’ll let you know how many corners are in my polygon as soon as I add them up, if you will.” - Darth Cheney
May 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pmDick Cheney: “Death is good. Destruction is good. Turning corners is good. F**k the press.”
May 9th, 2007 at 3:39 pmwithdrawing ‘to a few locations’
yea, the oil fields and oil inftrastructure which will NEVER be left as long as Corp. Amerika has a say.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:41 pmIraq has as many coners as an Escher drawing.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:47 pmSpeaking of Dick Cheyney and oil….read this email my friend sent me– it might just work if we got enough people behind it…
NEW GAS WAR - a new idea that WILL work
This was originally sent by a retired Coca Cola executive. It came from one of his engineer buddies who retired from Halliburton. It’ s worth your consideration.
Join the resistance!!!! I hear we are going to hit close to $4.00 a gallon by the end of this summer and it might go higher!! Want gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent, united action. Phillip Hollsworth offered this good idea.
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the “don’t buy gas on a certain day” campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn’t continue to “hurt” ourselves by refusing to buy gas. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
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Here’s the idea:
For the rest of this year, DON’T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL. If they are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
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I’ll bet you didn’t think you and I had that much potential, did you?
Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. I suggest that we not buy from EXXON/MOBIL UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.75 RANGE AND KEEP THEM DOWN. Think about the record profit they reported again in April and this might get you incentive. Remember, profit is the difference between their cost and their income. Their income is driven by the inflated gas and oil prices.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:51 pm“Turning a corner” or “turning the corner” in an Iraqi quagmire: a bit of a sticky wicket, one might say… Actually, the Bush crime family is in its last throes… The End is Near… Redeploy Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Connie, Alberto and the rest of these worthless lying traitors directly to Jail.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:53 pmActually, ‘05 was a watershed year for New Orleans. Dick gets confused now and then from the heard meds.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:04 pmWhen you turn 4 corners you are right back to where you started, war criminal dick.
Normally I think killing and violence are just wrong, but you know I would not feel bad at all if a rocket hit ole’ dick between the eyes.
Hating the Repukian War Criminals daily
May 9th, 2007 at 4:36 pm‘Well, Iraq’s looking good, …’
Sounds like the same thing Ken Lay said back in 2001 when Enron was sinking. Like in September of 2001 when Lay told Enron’s employees he was a buyer of Enron stock when in fact he was an active seller.
Meanwhile, he was telling the employees that he thought Enron’s stock was “a bargain” …
Dick Cheney, Ken Lay … these guys really do operate from the same exact play book …
Incredible …
May 9th, 2007 at 4:37 pmHow many corners are there in a great big circle jerk?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:38 pm“DON’T purchase ANY gasoline from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.”
I have not bought gas from Exxon since the Valdez oil spill. Just my own little personal boycott. Judging by their record profits recently, it doesn’t seem to have bothered them much. Maybe if more of us… (???)
May 9th, 2007 at 4:51 pmWe’ve turned more corners then an origami convention.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:55 pmWatershed? Did he mean bloodshed?
I wish my brother were still around to chat with me online about Shooty McBadheart’s odious presence in Iraq.
We’d have a good laugh about it. Andy always had more than a few choice words for Shooty, Chimpy, Gap-teeth, and Rummy The Dummy, among others. He always saw the folly of being there, what a farce it all was.
We can’t laugh about it any longer, though. Andy was killed by an IED in Western Baghdad last Thursday.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:06 pmIt’s not a war anymore, it’s an occupation.
You don’t LOSE an occupation, you just recognize that you can never WIN.
If surveys started asking people if they support the continued forced occupation of Iraq, at the real expense of lives etc., you would get even lower % of YES answers.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:08 pmHow about instead of when opposing Cheney and Bush’s illegal “war”, we say anti-crime instead of anti-war. I’m anti-crime are you?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:09 pmI think we’ve turned the corner, if you will. I think when we look back from 10 years hence, we’ll see that the year ‘05 was in fact a watershed year here in Iraq.‘
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Hey, Liberals, you know that we´ve turned the corner? /trollish
May 9th, 2007 at 5:17 pm*Hater,
My sincere condolences for your loss.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:27 pmEven I think the guy is a rotten liar. And that is really saying something.
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May 9th, 2007 at 6:22 pm“We’ve turned the corner”….exactly what Custer said at the Little Big Horn.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:15 pmWe’ve turned a corner four times - to become a box.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:18 pmMy condolences, Hater.
I think Cheney thinks he’s in the home stretch. He started this war for the oil, and if he can get that oil law passed — the one that basically screws the Iraqis out of their own oil — he doesn’t care what happens after that, except that the law can’t be overturned, so we’ll need to keep the troops there for 30 years to enforce our theft of their oil.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmThere’s the rub. They have to keep the troops there to keep their filthy claws on the oil, and that’s not gonna happen.
Yeah… we turned a corner and ran into a wall. Smooth move Cheney. You suck!
May 9th, 2007 at 8:07 pmWonder how much gold, money, jewels and street drugs was in dead-eye-dick’s baggage when he returned from that place?
May 9th, 2007 at 9:28 pmAlso wonder how many times he had to change underwear.
Looked like an armoured vest under that sweater.
“If you will” is one of his tells when he’s lying.
May 9th, 2007 at 10:11 pmI hope Cheney lives to 100. Think about it, he’ll have all that time to see the fruits of his tenure. His epitaph could read ” And I Just turned the corner”. Funny man, that Dick though he would probably only last a week if he had to eat that Haliburton cafeteria food at the base in Iraq for a week. Like I said, funny man…
May 9th, 2007 at 11:22 pmThe picture of Cheney is priceless!
May 9th, 2007 at 11:53 pm> and if he can get that oil law passed
I’m completely confused as to why these people are so obsessed with Oil laws? Last I checked, guns and IED’s are the law in iraq these days. As much as some of these chumps would love to think the iraqis are going to kill each other off until none are left, they are wrong. they will kill each other, sure, but there will be plenty left to make sure that western interests never get thier hands on signifigant amounts of oil without getting bloodied in the process. if these idiots think that laws mean anything without a stable government to enforce them, they are sadly mistaken. I predict in 10 years, if anyone is getting the oil contracts in iraq, it will be the russians and the chinese.
May 10th, 2007 at 6:05 am“Cheney…also discussed the possibility of American forces eventually withdrawing ‘to a few locations’ in Iraq, which would ‘reduce the total number of personnel we need here.’
“‘I think you will see changes in our deployment patterns probably within this next year,’ he said.â€
Ahhh…disclosing our plans to the enemy, eh Cheney? For shame!
May 10th, 2007 at 9:12 am*Hater,
I AM SO DEEPLY, DEEPLY SORRY!
May 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pmMy condolences on losing your good friend hater.
I’ve only got one thing to say: GET THE FUCK OUT OF IRAQ!!! NOW!!!!
May 10th, 2007 at 3:36 pm