Bush’s New USAID Nominee: Hispanics Are ‘Lazy’
Bush’s New USAID Nominee: Hispanics Are ‘Lazy’
President Bush plans to nominate Henrietta Holsman Fore to head the U.S. Agency for International Development “to replace Randall Tobias who resigned after his name was linked to an escort service.”
Fore is currently the State Department undersecretary for management. When Bush nominated her for this position in 2005, ThinkProgress noted that Sen. Barack Obama (D-IL) grilled Fore over her previous comments in which she suggested blacks prefer pushing drugs on the street to working in factory jobs.
Fore’s remarks came from a speech she gave at Wellesley University in 1987. Here’s how a Feb. 12, 1987 New York Times article covered that speech:
A Wellesley College trustee’s remark that blacks preferred pushing drugs to working in a factory has precipitated an emotional debate on this bucolic campus already grappling with charges of racial insensitivity
The trustee, Henrietta Holsman, a 1970 graduate of Wellesley who runs a manufacturing concern in Los Angeles, resigned from the board last weekend after apologizing for her comments, which also cast aspersions on the work ethic of Hispanic and white employees. But in a letter to the college newspaper, Ms. Holsman reiterated her statement that she had trouble keeping black assembly-line workers from going “back to the street to earn more money” selling drugs
In her lecture, Ms. Holsman also said she had found Hispanic workers to be lazy, white workers resentful of having to work with machines, and Asians, while very productive, likely to move on to professional or management jobs.
In a July 13, 2005 letter, Fore promised Obama that she “would work with the Congressional Black Caucus and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus in identifying the best practices that can be used to strengthen diversity in the State Department” [AP, 7/19/05]
But as Raw Story reports, CBC members confirm that the committee has not had any contact with Fore in the past two years. Although Fore met with Latino legislators on two occasions, the content of the meetings was not disclosed. Additionally, the “State Department’s own accountability reports show little change in the make up of the workforce since Fore took over in 2005.”
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May 9th, 2007 at 2:57 pmThe crap these people spew never ceases to amaze me. Lies, hate, distortion and the like….
They (and their media buddies) like to claim that people who oppose this government’s policies “hate” america - should be silenced, deported, etc….but it’s people like this that really act in hatred towards what this country stands for - liberty, peace, and prosperity..
It’s time we turn this mess around.
Some interesting reading:
“The America-Haters Strike Again”
May 9th, 2007 at 3:00 pmhttp://www.populistamerica.com/ the_america_haters_strike_again
beside supporting the WISH List, fore can also be linked back to denny hastert and tom noe…
And, yes, I DO take it personally
May 9th, 2007 at 3:00 pmWell, isn’t she just a little ray of sunshine?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:02 pmIn her lecture, Ms. Holsman also said she had found Hispanic workers to be lazy, white workers resentful of having to work with machines, and Asians, while very productive, likely to move on to professional or management jobs.
Also, she said that Italians always smelled of garlic and Eskimos were a safety risk because they insisted on carrying their damn harpoons with them everywhere.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:02 pmQuick thing…it is Wellsely College, not University.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:03 pmToo easy folks, move along now, nothing to comment on here. I think the administration and the Republican hard core have just given up all hope of appearing like decent human beings anymore.
News flash everyone: They are racist, homophobic, elitist jerks. If you are not white and wealthy, please move to the side so white wealthy folks can come to the front–we have ambassadorships to fill.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmRoflmao @ these bottom feeding racists/bigots/fascists.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmTobias felt differently. Remember it was the “Central American Gals” that would come over to give him a massage.
Certainly those gals weren’t “lazy.”
May 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pmAnd anyone who works for the Bush Administration is a WHORE!!!!!!!!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pmI wonder if I could get her as a speaker for our local Community College’s Multi Cultural festival?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:08 pmwhite workers resentful of having to work with machines, and Asians, while very productive, likely to move on to professional or management jobs.
So, she was saying that Asians (Iranis, Chinese, Indians, which ones?) are a better example of the american dream, seeking for a betterment of its working conditions than whites? And, it’s a fault?
Cherie, say it shorter and admit that NO ONE was wishing to work under your management. Looks like a bigoted person that doesn’t know enough social skills to manage workers, having them happy and productive.
And now she’s going to be in charge of foreing USAID, a charge that demands GREAT AMOUNTS OF EMPATHY.
Looks as a Mrs. Bolton.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIf Hispanics are lazy, and they’re doing the jobs that Americans won’t do, what does that say about the rest of us?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:10 pmIraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law
Yes expect oil to go up in price
Iraq’s largest oil workers’ trade union will strike tomorrow, in protest at the controversial oil law currently being considered by the Iraqi parliament. The move threatens to stop all oil exports from Iraq.
The oil law proposes giving multinational companies the primary role in developing Iraq’s huge untapped oilfields, under contracts lasting up to 30 years. Oil production in Iraq, like in most of the Middle East, has been in the public sector since the 1970s. Continue reading ‘Iraqi Union Set to Strike over Oil Law’
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May 9th, 2007 at 3:11 pmwell, once again thinkprogress.org being disingenious. but what can we expect, thinkprogress.org knows that its Liberal readers and posters aren’t too smart or well educated.
if you bother to read what this lady said, she actually managed to insult everyone….Hispanic, White, Asian and black.
As whether what she said is right or wrong, well her experience with these individuals created her reality.
She didn’t call all Hispanic lazy, just the ones that were working in her factory. Which could be true, right?
She didn’t say that all black people leave jobs to earn more money in the street, she said that the blacks that work in her factory found out that they would make more money working in the streets of LA than in her factory.
How is this insulting?
oh I forgot, liberals want everything to be politically correct.
sad, sad…..thinkprogress.org obviously doesn’t think much of its Liberal readers.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:11 pmAlthough I can overlook Senator Byrd’s (Democrat) participation as a grand wizard in the Klu Kluk Klan, I am unwilling to overlook these 20 year old insensitive comments. They are intolerable.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:12 pmWell, aren’t they?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pmwill thinkprogress.org put up the quotes from Joe Biden and Hellary Clinton in which they use racist comments against Indians?
of course not…..remember left wingers only hate minorities that are not members of the Democratic Party.
where was thinkprogress.org outraged when left wingers called Dr. Rice Aunt Jemima? or when left wingers called Powell an Uncle Tom?
selective outrage, typical hypocrisy and stupidity from the left.
laughable at best, ridiculous at worst.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:14 pm#16 - selectively outraged liberal
“Additionally, the “State Department’s own accountability reports show little change in the make up of the workforce since Fore took over in 2005.â€
May 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmWow. She seems to fit in with the Administration already. Another rascist fascist in the Federal government, just what we needed. Well on the bright side, someday all these people will be in jail. We could start like a NeoCon zoo. We could bring our kids and watch all the NeoCons throw feces at each other, and grunt around scavenging through peanut shells. We could open a whole theme park. Where all the rides make you puke, and there could be a a booth for FOX Karaoke where you can imitate Bill OReilly and Micheal Savage ranting as if they are the reincarnation of thier beloved Hitler. Help me here people. I think I’m on to something….moneyt to be made!
Of course kids would not be allowed in the the Fowley wing of the zoo! There is where heavy petting takes on a new meaning. Ohhh…The PAT “FU@KING” ROBERTSON wing…this where you get to hit the NeoCons with a bible like in Wak-o-Mole!!!!
I’m gonna be rich!!!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:15 pmHas there ever been an instance when some who calls herself “Hater” had anything useful to contribute to a discussion here?
I thought not.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:17 pmHer statements are not racist, they are observational. People of any ethnicity are generally raised by people of the same ethnic group. This means that they will tend to inherit the qualities of this group, good or bad. Noticing these trends is the first step to any change. Ignoring them and calling everyone a racist will help nothing.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pm“I didn’t mean you, Mr. Gonzales.” - Henrietta Holsman
May 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmHenrietta Holsman Fore, have you been talking with Prince Philip again?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:19 pmComment by Valiantthehater - link your claims please.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:20 pmComment by Valiantthehater — May 9, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
What’s your point? I got mugged a few years ago by a bloke who was black. So it’s OK for me to say that all black males are muggers? I was ripped off something chronic by an Asian landlord when I was at university. So it’s OK for me to say that Asians are rip off merchants. Most recently, my company shut down it’s final pension scheme, meaning my retirement is screwed. By your logic, it’s OK to say that white businessmen are cold hearted money grabbers ripping of the working man whilst they line their pockets.
Hey, it’s based on my experience so that’s fine isn’t it?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:20 pmI gotta go, but help me here with post 20.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:22 pmShorter ValiantSelfHater:
Can’t you liberal retards see that she insulted EVERYONE based on their race or ethnicity? What could be fairer than that? What do you libtards want? Everyone to be treated fairly based on their individual skills and habits? You people are living in Loon Land!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:23 pm#15 - ‘As whether what she said is right or wrong, well her experience with these individuals created her reality.” Comment by Valiantthehater — May 9, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Well, my experience is that neo-cons lie all the time. So if I were to say “Neo-cons are liars!” it would be correct as far as my experience goes.
That being said:
Pres. Bush flip-flops more than a sandal at a beach!
Republicans hate Veterans more than US Citizens hate terrorists!
Trolls at TP hate facts more than anything else in the world!
May 9th, 2007 at 3:23 pmJust what we needed! A racist twat. No wonder the world hates us.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:24 pm“if you bother to read what this lady said, she actually managed to insult everyone….Hispanic, White, Asian and black.”
Not exactly; it’s just that she chooses to express her hatred of all working class people in ethnic terms.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:27 pm#13
If Hispanics are lazy, and they’re doing the jobs that Americans won’t do, what does that say about the rest of us?
Comment by Badmoodman — May 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm
Lol! Perfect! ;-)
May 9th, 2007 at 3:28 pmIt sounds like she has no use for any working people, what a surprise. Such a contrast to her class of people, it’s just so discouraging.
I don’t see her so much as a racist, but rather as an elitist and a bigot. A perfect fit for the current administration.
Comment by Valiantthehater - link your claims please.
Comment by JTitor
Trolls do not provide links or substantiation. Instead, they spew venom, repeat already-refuted talking points, and avoid actual discussion. Which is why they are trolls and best ignored.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:29 pmAnd, being US AID, who will aid? The ones that are from the races the neoconnie in front doesn’t hate?
Oh, wait, I see a pattern here… all the unspent money is divided between the Board of Directors? Or it’s all for the Head Holsman? There are no bid contracts too? But of course there are, all that logistics, and help travelling to the third world… if it reaches the Africa Seaports or Airports, of course.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:30 pmI like the part about how they make more money selling drugs than the jobs she appears to want them to do for her. must be a hell of a job, hmm?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pmsounds like a perfect sociopath, and a great fit for george’s shoe
#19 - “where was thinkprogress.org outraged when left wingers called Dr. Rice Aunt Jemima? or when left wingers called Powell an Uncle Tom?” Comment by Valiantthehater — May 9, 2007 @ 3:14 pm
Where was YOUR outrage when the right wingers compared Fmr. Sen. Coleman with Saddam and Usama bin Laden?
Oh, I forget, you don’t care about all the outrageous comments from the right, only the few you hear from the left.
How. . . . convenient.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pmWhat an arrogant woman. but typical for a Republican.
May 9th, 2007 at 3:31 pm>> ” … blacks prefer pushing drugs on the street to working in factory jobs.”
Who in their right mind wouldn’t?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:40 pm” … blacks prefer pushing drugs on the street to working in factory jobs.”
Who in their right mind wouldn’t?
May 9th, 2007 at 3:40 pmThis appointment is so special. We need someone in charge of USAID who hates minorities all over the world.Translation: anybody that’s not white and rich. Get ready for more loathing of America by countries that don’t already hate us. How many hoops will certain populations need to jump through to get any aid at all? They need food, jobs and healthcare in third world countries. That lady will provide the minimum required by law, and not a cent more. Oh, I forgot: what law has this administration actually followed, before either watering it down or eradicating it?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:01 pmSounds as she hates all working people equally. A perfect bushite nominee.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:03 pmWell, isn’t she just a little ray of sunshine?
Comment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Good one, Zooey.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:03 pmAlso, she said that Italians always smelled of garlic and Eskimos were a safety risk because they insisted on carrying their damn harpoons with them everywhere.
Comment by KRank — May 9, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Then she said the Irish are always drunk and Jews haggling over wages and ghe Germans have no sense of humor. Funny she didn’t mention how Asian men have small, uh, never mind.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pm* RACISTpublicans *
May 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pmHey, it’s based on my experience so that’s fine isn’t it?
Comment by UKBristolDave
You’ll be alright for dinner and dancing, right? :D
May 9th, 2007 at 4:05 pmSheeit, who don’t like pushin’ mo din workin’ 9 da 5? knomtalkinbout?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:06 pmTobias felt differently. Remember it was the “Central American Gals†that would come over to give him a massage.
Certainly those gals weren’t “lazy.â€
Comment by PTF — May 9, 2007 @ 3:07 pm
Nice of you to give credit where credit is due. Or do you think Tobias paid cash?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:07 pmHow is this insulting?
oh I forgot, liberals want everything to be politically correct.
sad, sad…..thinkprogress.org obviously doesn’t think much of its Liberal readers.
Comment by Valiantthehater — May 9, 2007 @ 3:11 pm
Oh I don’t know. How about she pays an unlivable minimum wage, thinks everybody who works for her is scum and then uses racist stereotypes to explain why they quit. Or do you think the black people who quit TOLD her they were leaving to sell drugs?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:11 pmOne other group you forgot to mention, Henrietta: “Republicans prefer corruption and corporate welfare over honest work.”
May 9th, 2007 at 4:14 pmJust because Hispanics don’t whore themselves out to the republican party for cushy jobs, war profiteering, and million dollar kickbacks doesn’t mean they’re lazy, Ms. Holsman.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:15 pmThat being said:
Pres. Bush flip-flops more than a sandal at a beach!
Republicans hate Veterans more than US Citizens hate terrorists!
Trolls at TP hate facts more than anything else in the world!
Comment by Democrat Soldier
I think you’re onto something. All Republicans are flip floppers, who hate veterans as much as they hate facts.
That’s working for me.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:17 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Well I’ve been warned about women who go to university. As long as those rumours are true, count me in…
May 9th, 2007 at 4:22 pmBush’s friends live in low places!
May 9th, 2007 at 4:23 pmUKBristolDave,
As long as you’ve been warned…you’re safe with me. :-)
May 9th, 2007 at 4:30 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
I’ll have to sign some sort of medical disclaimer. Lord knows what you have in mind….:-p
May 9th, 2007 at 4:39 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 4:30 pm
I’ll have to sign some sort of medical disclaimer. Lord knows what you have in mind….:-p
Comment by UKBristolDave — May 9, 2007 @ 4:39 pm
Do you think she’s, gulp, dangerous? Zooey, be gentle with him!
May 9th, 2007 at 4:45 pmUKBristolDave,
I guess “safe” is a relative term. :D
May 9th, 2007 at 4:47 pmAdding to the list…
And the French smelled of cheese!
May 9th, 2007 at 4:47 pmDo you think she’s, gulp, dangerous? Zooey, be gentle with him!
Comment by Shane
I promise not to throw him under a bus. ;)
May 9th, 2007 at 4:49 pmYeah, Hispanics are lazy. They just happen, in the US, to work 10-12 hrs/day in order to feed their families…what? Oh, no, Congressmen working 3 day/week are NOT lazy…sure.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:52 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 4:49 pm
Please be gentle Zooey, I’m a shy, innocent young man from the UK.
May 9th, 2007 at 4:52 pmAdding to the list…
And the French smelled of cheese!
Comment by Dr.D
…..and we return to the topic of the thread. :-D
May 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pmPssst…Amanda….while you’re busy working in the archives, be a dear and look up Hillary Clinton’s Wellesley speech that she made certain was locked tighter than her chastity belt. Funny…. that woman is always looking for ways to promote her “vision”. It might be interesting to let America know what Hillary is so ashamed of in that speech.
Back on topic: Thanks for the thorough reporting Amanda - great job!!
May 9th, 2007 at 4:55 pm“Please be gentle Zooey, I’m a shy, innocent young man from the UK.”
Comment by UKBristolDave
Translation: I’m inexperienced with WOMEN….and I have bad teeth….
May 9th, 2007 at 4:57 pmPlease be gentle Zooey, I’m a shy, innocent young man from the UK.
Comment by UKBristolDave
It’s dinner and dancing! What am I gonna do, throw on the table and have my way with you?
May 9th, 2007 at 4:58 pmWonder where VTH is with its ‘GOP isn’t biased we don’t need help’ yokelings
May 9th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“laughable at best, ridiculous at worst.”
Proverbial pot …
May 9th, 2007 at 4:58 pm“Comment by valiant venus”
Translation: “I’m going to say whatever off-topic crap I feel like saying, sprinkle some superfluous quotation marks around, laugh at my own jokes, peg the Smug-O-Meter, and then sign off with a hearty ‘Toodles.’”
May 9th, 2007 at 5:01 pmHenrietta forgot one last stereotype; the only way a white woman like her could ever get ahead is by screwing the boss.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:02 pmbe a dear and look up Hillary Clinton’s Wellesley speech that she made certain was locked tighter than her chastity belt.
As a comparison to the very loose one Tobias made for himself….?
Cmon Venus Flycrap, your really stretching for a argument today.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:04 pmTranslation: I’m inexperienced with WOMEN….and I have bad teeth….
Comment by valiant venus
Hmmmm, claws dear? Not confident in your abilities, poor thing?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:06 pmTranslation: I’m inexperienced with WOMEN….and I have bad teeth….
Comment by valiant venus
Coming from an adult having her profile at myspace.com… well…
May 9th, 2007 at 5:10 pmComment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
Good point valiant. I do need a check up from the dentist.
I notice you’ve ignored all my other questions. So I understand you admit you’re a numpty?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:10 pmI think argument is sport.
Comment by valiant venus
Translation; A bitch that sweats during psycho-babble rants.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:14 pmComment by Valiantthehater - link your claims please.
Comment by JTitor — May 9, 2007 @ 3:20 pm
Good luck there.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:15 pm#69 - Cmon Venus Flycrap, your really stretching for a argument today.
Comment by Dr. Evil
Dear Evil - The pickings and postings have been thin here at TP lately. My favourite is the knucklehead Massachusetts (could we just set that state adrift?) and his global warming/Defense Dept. idea. But I have always wondered what was in Hillary’s speech that she doesn’t want out.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:16 pmV V is my kind of women, why she would wear a pair of depends and travel cross country with mace and a wig just to harass my ex girlfriend.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:17 pmJuan - Nice try - I would never be stupid enough to put anything on my space…..
May 9th, 2007 at 5:19 pmComment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 4:57 pm
You really don’t get sarcasm do you? I know, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit but the highest form of intelligence.
Do you need me to explain? If you do then it’s a bit pointless.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:20 pmEvil - Tooo bad- you’re not my kind of man. I like manly men who don’t want to be “girlfriends”. And a Progressive man…..puhleeeze - they whine too much….
May 9th, 2007 at 5:22 pmBut I have always wondered what was in Hillary’s speech that she doesn’t want out. - V V
Well if’n yew ask me, it’s in their Kevlar undies it can stay there. Besides there are many many speeches we are not publicly privvy to. Maybe she farted like George did and asked how long it’s gonna take them to get home?
This study won’t cost nearly what it did to get into this quagmire and what the think tans spent over the years on Iraq.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:23 pmYou really don’t get sarcasm do you?
Comment by UKBristolDave
I’m thinking she doesn’t get much of anything at all…
May 9th, 2007 at 5:23 pmIn general, most Americans are lazy.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:25 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 5:23 pm
But Z, I have bad teeth and have no confidence with women. I’m nothing and I live on the web. Apparently I’m also guilty of tipping the future king of England on his arse when I was off to a rave.
I’m so weak and fragile. I need some attention.
No, hang on, I’m not Valiant Venus
May 9th, 2007 at 5:29 pmI would never be stupid enough to put anything on my space…..
Comment by valiant venus
Who knows? You were stupid enough to believe there WMDs in Iraq and that Saddam, leader of a ruined thirld world country was a threat to the most powerful country in the world. Wouldnt you agree?
Hey, one serious question: Why are you so nasty? Yesterday, trueblue talked to you in a very good way, Bluedog answered you and asked you seriously about political issues but you just resorted to childish talk.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:30 pmComment by Juan C — May 9, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Tevez mate - has hit proper form. He might be a fat git but he’s showing his skill
May 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pmIn general, most Americans are lazy.
Comment by Daryll
Gays above all.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:31 pmComment by UKBristolDave — May 9, 2007 @ 5:29 pm
Heh. You had had me at “tipping the future king of England on his arse when I was off to a rave.”
Bad teeth AND no confidence with women? I’m all tingly…
May 9th, 2007 at 5:38 pmTevez mate - has hit proper form. He might be a fat git but he’s showing his skill
Comment by UKBristolDave
He´s a crack. No doubt. But, I think they wont defeat ManU. They will be going down. In my opinion.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:40 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 5:38 pm
Hey, that wasn’t funny. I spent the night getting grilled by MI5 whilst my mates where off dancing away to DJ Sy, Hype and Dougal. Whilst they were off their heads I was getting a short sharp education on why the royal family aren’t to be messed with.
What am I saying? It’s very funny.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:42 pmThat’s why I’m a Democrat.
May 9th, 2007 at 5:42 pmThe Republican leadership is anti-Hispanic.
In general, most Americans are lazy.
Comment by Daryll
I guess this little factlet comes from personal experience?
And a Progressive man…..puhleeeze - they whine too much….
Comment by valiant venus
Indeed i do get so tired of hearing about Clenis. Ten years now and they still whine like Bill pulled out his watch again today. Speaking of whiners did you read Rushs’ or Oreillys’ site today?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:43 pmWhat am I saying? It’s very funny.
Comment by UKBristolDave
It sounds hysterical! Will you be invited to the wedding?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:47 pmComment by Zooey — May 9, 2007 @ 5:47 pm
Naaah, the Queen is bringing Traitors Gate back just for me. It’s right though, I’ll go down in History.
Would you grant a man a dying wish?
May 9th, 2007 at 5:53 pmComment by valiant venus
Hey, one serious question: Why are you so nasty? Yesterday, trueblue talked to you in a very good way, Bluedog answered you and asked you seriously about political issues but you just resorted to childish talk.
Comment by Juan C — May 9, 2007 @ 5:30 pm
Juan C:
It appears that VV has a very low self-esteem. It’s obvious she’s not able to engage people without constantly deflecting the conversation by the use of derogatory terms. This is also why she prefers “manly men” and not progressive men, since she doesn’t actually have to engage “manly men”, but instead all she has to do is to be subservient. It’s the Republican way.
May 9th, 2007 at 6:16 pmThis nomination is disappointing not only because of the previous comments made by the nominee but because it could signal a step in the wrong direction for USAID.
USAID is an organization which has an essential role to play in the fight against global poverty and meeting the UN’s Millennium Development Goals. What is required is strong political will in order to guarantee the US does its part.
What is worrying is that this nomination can be seen as a signal that the administration doesn’t take the fight against global poverty seriously, although it is an achievable goal requiring only 19 million dollars to end hunger and malnutrition. Which seems even more ridiculous considering what the administration does take seriously: winning the war in Iraq, which by most counts is not an achievable goal and has already cost significantly more than 19 million.
May 9th, 2007 at 6:38 pmThat’s right - Torquemada Gonzales had weeks to prepare for his testimony, and after all that it was obvious he’d been on the golf course most of that time. /sarc off
May 9th, 2007 at 6:44 pmJuan and Bristol Dave - who bets against Ac Milan next week? Saw the demolition of ManU last week….
May 9th, 2007 at 7:09 pmWould you grant a man a dying wish?
Comment by UKBristolDave
Your wish is my command. :D
May 9th, 2007 at 7:17 pmPssst…Amanda….while you’re busy working in the archives, be a dear and look up Hillary Clinton’s Wellesley speech that she made certain was locked tighter than her chastity belt. Funny…. that woman is always looking for ways to promote her “visionâ€. It might be interesting to let America know what Hillary is so ashamed of in that speech.
Back on topic: Thanks for the thorough reporting Amanda - great job!!
Comment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 4:55 pm
Shall we bring out Bush’s Cocaine and Alcohol based ramblings as well from his youth? Or perhaps we should take out McCain’s *traitorous* actions as a POW?
You’re such a miserable st*pid c*nt. This post makes me think - what’s in YOUR closet - st*pid c*nt?
May 9th, 2007 at 7:42 pmJust when you think all the bigoted crony fools are already in prime positions in the Bush administration — they dig up yet another one! Man, these right wing racist cretins have a deep bench!
May 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pmJuan: “Hey, one serious question: Why are you so nasty?”
Let’s face it, Juan. At this point, anyone who is still trying to defend this administration is nasty by definition.
May 9th, 2007 at 7:55 pmBluePuP - So let me get this straight (apologies to male decorators and hair stylists) - people who support this administration’s Middle East efforts are “nasty”? Funny, with a few exceptions, I don’t think the majority of Progs here are “nasty” - I DO think they would rather hide under the covers and hope they can “make nice” with our enemies.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:11 pmI DO think they would rather hide under the covers and hope they can “make nice†with our enemies.
Comment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Not that I’m hetero, or anything.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:22 pmBut would you hide under the covers with me for a lil while?
I promise, I look nothing like the whiny, geeky JMH (your words, not mine)
In general, most Americans are lazy.
Comment by Daryll — May 9, 2007 @ 5:25 pm
HOLD ME!
May 9th, 2007 at 8:24 pmBluePuP - So let me get this straight (apologies to male decorators and hair stylists) - people who support this administration’s Middle East efforts are “nasty� Comment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
Actually most people that support the efforts are ignorant and delusional. You’re *nasty* - st*pid c*nt.
Funny, with a few exceptions, I don’t think the majority of Progs here are “nasty†- I DO think they would rather hide under the covers and hope they can “make nice†with our enemies. Comment by valiant venus — May 9, 2007 @ 8:11 pm
And this proves my point. You call “progs” cowards, and enablers - that’s *nasty* and incorrect - you st*pid, st*pid c*nt.
You would claimed to be half-Irish, correct? Aren’t you happy that Tony Blair didn’t listen to all of the people that said he shouldn’t “make nice” with the *enemy* - the IRA? Why are you so afraid of peace, think it might make you *weak* - st*pid c*nt? You know it doesn’t hurt to talk - but unless you do, you never *hear* what’s making others angry, nor do you *think* of ways to resolve that. That doesn’t require you to drop your defenses - but it does require you to *use-your-brain* - something you’ve shown a complete incapacity for doing. St*pid c*nt.
Oh and east something Anorexia girl - you’re more st*pid, nasty and hateful than usual.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:35 pmAt this point, anyone who is still trying to defend this administration is nasty by definition.
Comment by Bluedog49
Stupid or just sociopath.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:54 pmWhat is worrying is that this nomination can be seen as a signal that the administration doesn’t take the fight against global poverty seriously, although it is an achievable goal requiring only 19 million dollars to end hunger and malnutrition.
Comment by Andrea — May 9, 2007 @ 6:38 pm
It’s 19 BILLION, not million, and it’s highly unlikely.
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And for contrast, the Borgen Project tosses in Department of Defense figures on appropriations and weapons programs totaling $416 billion. In addition, their web site is littered with quotes from American military figures claiming how money spent on war could have already solved the world’s problems.
The implication is obvious.
Out of the hundreds of billions of dollars spent each year on Defense, $19 billion is chump change compared to ending world hunger and other pressing global issues.
And the inference is equally obvious. The United States must be a selfish country because world problems such as nuclear disarmament can easily be wiped out with the stroke of a pen if only there was the impetus to do so.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:56 pmhttp://www.nationalsummary.com/ Articles/ International/ international__starvation.htm
Juan and Bristol Dave - who bets against Ac Milan next week? Saw the demolition of ManU last week….
Comment by TerrytheTurtle
Liverpool is gonna win. No doubt. In these days, only lousy teams win trophies. Defensive ones. Italy is the world champion…I mean, come on.
May 9th, 2007 at 8:59 pmSo, she was saying that Asians (Iranis, Chinese, Indians, which ones?) are a better example of the american dream, seeking for a betterment of its working conditions than whites? And, it’s a fault?
Comment by Evil Spaniard — May 9, 2007 @ 3:10 pm\
She didn’t say it was a fault, she said it made it hard to keep factory employees.
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Conservatives do not provide links or substantiation.
Comment by gummitch — May 9, 2007 @ 3:29 pm
Only because when they do, you then start whining about copy and paste. You aren’t interested in any proof that doesn’t support your position. By the way, the Aunt Jemima reference can be found here if that is what started the cry for links.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6530925/
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I like the part about how they make more money selling drugs than the jobs she appears to want them to do for her. must be a hell of a job, hmm?
Comment by oldtree — May 9, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
Are you just playing dumb or are you actually the only person in the world who doesn’t know that drug dealers make a lot of money? Why do you suppose they do it, for the prestige, the adoring fans? No factory can pay as much as a dealer makes and stay in business.
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Where was YOUR outrage when the right wingers compared Fmr. Sen. Coleman with Saddam and Usama bin Laden?
Oh, I forget, you don’t care about all the outrageous comments from the right, only the few you hear from the left.
How. . . . convenient.
Comment by Democrat Soldier — May 9, 2007 @ 3:31 pm
That had nothig to do with race and everything to do with him being a pinko liberal. ;)
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Also, she said that Italians always smelled of garlic and Eskimos were a safety risk because they insisted on carrying their damn harpoons with them everywhere.
Comment by KRank — May 9, 2007 @ 3:02 pm
Then she said the Irish are always drunk and Jews haggling over wages and ghe Germans have no sense of humor. Funny she didn’t mention how Asian men have small, uh, never mind.
Comment by Shane — May 9, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
Gettin a little carried away with yourselves there, fellas? Kind of enjoying that ? And to think it’s perfectly ok because you can claim it’s sarcasm. Gotcha! ;)
May 9th, 2007 at 11:38 pmThese people have no shame. Racist scumbag.
May 9th, 2007 at 11:50 pmThese people have no shame. Racist scumbag.
Comment by Karim — May 9, 2007 @ 11:50 pm
Yeah, Shane and KRank are awful aren’t they, Karim? ;)
May 10th, 2007 at 1:43 amYou’d think MSNBC would want to pick her up to replace Imus.
May 10th, 2007 at 7:07 am… These are her real life observations from the people she had experienced. It would be illogical of her to not draw conclusions of ANY given subset after a certain amount of experience or interaction.
Leveraging your understanding of diversity makes us strong, not all people are identical and robotic. You need to understand that people are different in order to make them their best…in order to listen to them clearly… in order to progress in a multicultural world.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:15 pmHenrietta Holsman Fore is a nappy-headed-ho.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:31 pmI don’t think the woman should be considered but I would rather have someone who says something not illegal serve a position than someone who has broken the law.
I think Ted Kennedy should be gone and never should have been elected.
Barney Frank should be gone.
Marion Berry never should have been reelected
Shelia Jackson Leigh
K. Kilpatrick, gone
I love to go on these libs sites just to prove to myself again how humorless and vindictive and hateful they are. To know that they never listen to another side of anything and how they continue to spew the constant mantra of what is fed into their brain day after day in 5 minute bites all day long.
May 10th, 2007 at 2:39 pmMost people learn by rote and the Soros people know it. Inindate the mainstream. Better system then Hitler had.
This is called thinkprogress, too bad theres not enough thinking going on.
While the comments may appear racist, have any of you even begun to do the research to find out if what she said 20 years ago was true? Perhaps everything she said was true where she worked just as a she said. She spoke about her experience while working there. Did any of you work there so that you can refute what she saw?
She did not generalize and say all blacks everywhere or all mexicans everywhere, etc. She spoke about her experiences where she worked at the time.
Look I know its connected to Bush but put your venomous fangs away for a while and actually think before you just give your typical knee jerk ‘Bush bad’ response. Damn sheeple.
May 10th, 2007 at 3:37 pmTime for a speech.
Valiant Venus, #63
Pssst…Amanda….while you’re busy working in the archives, be a dear and look up Hillary Clinton’s Wellesley speech that she made certain was locked tighter than her chastity belt.
Time for a speech.
Valiant Venus, #63
Pssst…Amanda….while you’re busy working in the archives, be a dear and look up Hillary Clinton’s Wellesley speech that she made certain was locked tighter than her chastity belt.
Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/ wiki/ Hillary_Rodham_Clinton_controversies
Rodham’s former professor and thesis adviser Alan Schechter told MSNBC.com that “‘There Is Only The Fight…’” was a good thesis, and that its suppression by the Clinton White House “was a stupid political decision, obviously, at the time.”[2] Nuff said there.
Andrea, #94, dead on.
Valiant Venus, #101, Trying to talk to the people you don’t like is not “hiding under the covers.†Attacking, verbally and militarily, anyone that you disagree with or has done you wrong is just reckless and anti-productive. I’m not a big sci-fi geek, but one of the wisest things I ever heard was uttered by Yoda: “Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate, and hate leads to suffering.†Proof of that is all over the Middle East.
I used to be a so called “centrist,” but then I started to actually fact check the more interesting allegations that people made, such as this one about Hillary’s suppressed thesis. A check of Holsman’s record does show that she has repeatedly made irrational, inflammatory, innappropriate and highly dubious comments. If it’s wrong for me to say something that’s so “politically correct,” then baby I don’t want right.
The majority of the time, the truth comes out on the progressive side. I frequently encourage people to just do thorough fact checking instead of accepting allegations on there face, and more often than not they will find that reality lies on the left (which is actually the center). There can be multiple perspectives, but only one reality. Progressive views are grounded in pragmatism. Conservative views are usually rooted in ideals. Irrational insulting and hyperbole are anyone’s game.
Anymore allegations? Send them my way and I’ll fact check them.
May 10th, 2007 at 4:05 pmWow.. come on guys anyone who thinks she made “hate” remarks needs to stop being so narrow minded. In her experience, black people left the factory to make more money selling drugs, the hispanics were the lazziest, whites the most resentful and asians were the most productive.
We have no idea what the speech was about, or why she felt the need to mention that hispanics were the lazziest people working for her and black people prefered to make more money selling drugs, but if thats how it was, then thats how it was.
Sterotypes exist because at one point in time, they were true. It just so happends, she is talking about her experiences.
I hate bush, but this was a pathetic attempt at pulling words out of context to push an agenda. The article dosn’t mean anything and for all we know she might do a good job.
Get a grip people.
I mean, you have the right making up bullshit to make the left look bad, then you have the left making up bullshit to make the right look bad, both sides are just as retarted and if a person on the right is going to do a better job then someone on the left, then fuck the guy on the left.
If your going to bash someone, at least has something to bash them about.
May 10th, 2007 at 4:14 pmAndrea, #94, dead on.
Comment by Dan — May 10, 2007 @ 4:05 pm
First paragraph, possibly.
May 10th, 2007 at 5:27 pmSecond paragraph, some truth there.
Third paragraph, huge error. $19 billion not $19 million and still very questionable.
http://www.borgenproject.org/
Translation: I’m inexperienced with WOMEN….and I have bad teeth….
Wow valient…more personal attacks…pathetic as ever
have to love those articulate liberals..
The funny thing about “stereotypes” is that they come into being because they are true a large enough percentage of the time to warrant it. Funny how stereotypes aren’t always negative either…i.e. that asians typically move on to management/professional jobs.
I’ve got another one for you….”liberals like to resort to personal attacks on people that they cannot match up with on an intelectual level”
May 10th, 2007 at 6:13 pmComment by upright left:
Third paragraph, huge error. $19 billion not $19 million and still very questionable.
You are right; I stand corrected. $19 mil isn’t nearly enough. Obviously, the monetary resources needed are vast. Luckily, the monetary resources available to the world are virtually infinite.
But I do believe she is correct that appointing somebody who has made such inflammatory comments to such an important post has too many predictably problematic situations, whether or not some believe she was right.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:20 amComment by JV:
The funny thing about “stereotypes†is that they come into being because they are true a large enough percentage of the time to warrant it. Funny how stereotypes aren’t always negative either…i.e. that asians typically move on to management/professional jobs.
I’ve got another one for you….â€liberals like to resort to personal attacks on people that they cannot match up with on an intelectual levelâ€
On the first part, you are sort of correct. The human brain (and most brains in general), is wired in such a way as to make associations and generalizations. We literally couldn’t function without the tendency to stereotype things. However, many stereotypes are not formed by the individual. The stereotype that Asians are more likely to move on to “management/professional jobs [sic].”
As for the second part, it’s unclear as to whether or not it is yours. If it is, it’s an inherently hypocritical comment.
May 11th, 2007 at 12:29 amI wonder what she has to say about Jews, Protestants, Muslims, Arabs, and Catholics.
May 15th, 2007 at 4:58 pm